Most people today don't even understand net worth. You can make 250K a year and still be dead broke and in the hole. Keeping up with the Jones, is what most women are looking at.
If we're not actually engaged and planning a marriage and the finances of our living together, then asking for my bank account information on any date, let alone on date 1, would be "date over" and there would be no more dates.
Only a beta simp would give out such info on a first date. And she would quickly grow unattracted to a beta simp dooming the relationship from the start.
Wrong take. SOMEONE has ruined society. Social media has not RUINED Arabic societies where SOMEONE has the least amount of rights. SOMEONE ruined social media.
A lot of men do not care about how successful you are, if you don’t have that kind sweet personality and mindset that men are looking for nowadays, they’re moving on. I’m pretty sure a lot of us would much rather date the woman that works at McDonald’s that’s feminine, kind, smart, peaceful, emotional mature, etc than the woman that’s rich but has a horrible personality, rude, creates drama, etc.
All these women pursue being successful because their mothers and grandmothers told them to so they could never rely on men. Now, they’re wondering why they can never rely on men. lol
It's crazy how well "they" were able to manipulate women into thinking men actually give af about their careers/income. And if you've ever told a woman in your life IRL about this fact they look genuinely shocked and confused. Like they cannot even fathom someone they're interested in not caring about how much money they make 🤣 I remember telling my sister this years ago when she started dating her now husband and it literally turned into an hr long argument lmao
With all due respect to that woman, but seriously, what kind of question is that? No woman has ever asked me that question, and if she did, I would politely tell her "Miss, that's none of your business. All you got to know is that I work hard, and I strive to be better in all aspects of my life every day."
Add in lies, is egotistical, unfaithful, can not carry a normal conversation, has a plan B, wants every meal, shelter, clothing paid for the rest of her life.
I feel like dating has changed from “this is who I am, what I do, the things I enjoy, stuff I like, let me know if you’re interested!” To “I want this, I expect that, you better have this, and don’t be that. If you’re not all of these then piss off.” Like it went from showcasing what you have to offer to a set of demands that must be met. When did dating go from a resume to a shopping list…
When I was filtering women on eHarmony recently I immediately cut all the ones that had demand lists. Except the one I eventually chose, her demand was "must have own income" 😄
Its kind of always been this way. The buttress in the past to this behavior was the religious types getting people married before they could even think like this. Ever since the rise of secularism and parents teaching their kids to live for themselves this has become a bigger issue.
I feel like men expect too much from women these days, too. I don't think it's possible for anyone to both work a job and raise children these days. Jobs are so demanding and take too much time. Then, if a woman chooses not to work or works a minimum wage job due to disabilities, not as much education, etc, women feel like they can't measure up to expectations men may have for them.
Why is she bothering to be 'successful' if she still wants to be provided for? What's the point of her being a 'boss babe' if she doesn't want to be the boss?
Because she is not actually successful. Just her demeanour and misuse of language points elsewhere. There are only a few places she could be doing well… that’s on OF and the like. That’s why she only wants a rich guy.
Because humans can't just ditch millions of years of biology... we're still just hardwired to want to eat, f😊k, sleep, and repeat. Our modern social conditioning is what complicated this to an insane level... and by suicidal conditioning, I mean people cranking out bs dissertations to get their PhDs and subsequently useless drivel to support their theories and earn a paycheck off of it.
Being on the same page regarding finance is extremely important. However, as Dave Ramsay said, "it's not what you earn, it's what you keep". If the motivation from this lady is rooted in just finding an ATM to marry, no amount of money is enough. Wealthy people do not generally live a wealthy lifestyle.
A person's bank account information is one of the most private things they have. You can have your bank account emptied by scammers. She's one of those types of people. She doesn't just ask to see men's bank account information, she expects to see it, she thinks she's entitled. She's a dumpster fire....
Men who have 20k in their bank account may have 60 million dollars in assets. She clearly isn’t very intelligent if she thinks money in the bank is the sole significant factor in determining someone’s wealth. That in turn leads me to believe she’s not as “successful” as she claims she is.
What is it that they say in economics, business law, or Finance classes? It is diversify your portfolio! But first you have to have the means to do so.
I recently had a woman suddenly flip out on the 3rd date after I asked "how many boyfriends have you had?". I only asked cause she asked if I was a cheater. She went off on a tangent after I asked that question, even accidentally saying "you're not going to like what you hear regardless" and the next day she texted me that it wouldn't work out between us due to what was said the prior night. It was the wildest flip out out of nowhere I had seen, as she got severely upset. I suspect the number was astronomical, as I didnt even say the typical "whats your body count" question. These ny women are absurd lol
Most women will try to gauge your financial situation by asking the question, "So what do you do for a living?" If you tell them and it isn't a career/job that impresses them, that's the point they will write you off.
I had a hilarious one like that. Her family thought I was poor and stupid because I was a soldier in my youth (Ive been investing since my teens). I made 2x the money the writer her family forced her to marry😂 I dodged a serious bullet that time though because she cheated on mr writer after 4 yrs of marriage. Dont just look at her, look at the kind of family she has too
It really saddens me when I see content such as her's, and the great amount of women who think this way. They're reducing men to wallets, and there are some men who look upon women as only sexual partners (this also applies to women) modern feminism has promoted this as empowering for women, but I don't see how it really benefits them in the long run, as any worthwhile men won't find this behaviour attractive. None of this is good for relationships in the long run, it amazes me why they can't see it.
I'd say "live with it". Those women can behave however they want... with the results that come with it! That kind of behavior is unacceptable for me, just wish they'll be happy with the man compatible with them!
You hit the point. BUT i would go a step further. I think way to many woman and men are used to make a list what the partner has to to provide on a superficial level. They forget that a very good looking woman often has a very problematic personality, since they get steady offers from men from early age on and that leads to the need to get permanent attention and validation from others. OR a woman wants a high income men and does not understand that this comes naturally with being very focused at the job and with a high investment time wise, with the result that he cant spend to much time with the her or the family. People who make those abstract lists of wishes barley see the other side of the coin. They just see that status that comes with this points and not the costs.
@@rapsack7058 Women who show signs of narcissism tend to look for partners with some pretty high demands, like wanting them to have good financial prospects and a favorable social status. Machiavellian women also prefer men with good financial prospects when it comes to both short and long-term relationships, according to a study that explores the interplay between Dark Triad traits, sociosexual orientation, and mate preferences in both short and long-term relationships. Source: Urszula M. Marcinkowska a, Gayle Brewer b, Agata Jaremba b, Imogen Jones b, Elin Payne b, Minna T. Lyons b, Dark triad, sociosexual orientation, and mate preferences in short and long-term relationships - Exploratory study, October 2021, Science Direct
@@rapsack7058 very astute observation. Someone once told me a long time ago that everything has its cost. The older I got the more I saw that point. Nothing in this life is really for free. There's generally a price to be paid one way or another.
LOL! I remember a woman rejected me when I tried to introduce myself to her saying "I didn't go through 4 years of college getting a degree to end up with a short guy". I overheard one conversation with a woman talking to another woman on the phone saying "you're going to school to be a nurse and he's only 5'10... you deserve someone better than that"
lmao, I had the same occur. I am financially succesful to the point I dont have to work anymore. Being judged for only being 5'8 is hilarious because it shows me exactly how aweful they are.
Important point Courtney made about how if a guy were to ask a woman her body count or weight on the first date it’s generally perceived as rude and inappropriate - a “how dare you!” moment. Yet, that same woman believes she’s entitled to ask a man how much money he makes on a first date. The more I watch these videos from Courtney and other creators, the more I realize that being divorced, I am much better off staying single and out of relationships.
I only got married because I felt bad for keeping my woman in a situationship waiting. Now i'm divorced too. Modern day women are so messed up in the head, its not even funny... They shouldn't be able to vote. They only think with their emotions.
There are a lot of crazy, toxic women out there, but being aware of them doesn't mean you need to give up on finding a normal person. Take a break if you need to recoup. Then get back out there if it is something you still want.
Yeah, you're better off alone that having problems! In my case, just open my eyes and ears, i was ready to meet somebody. I was patient, had some fun meeting. Showed class and interest, wanted to know who was in front of me. Knew what i wanted and not. I wish you the same! There is somebody for you out there, you just to make it into having a chance to meet her ...and recognize her!
I've been asked how much I make a few times. After the women asked me that, I ghosted them. I've also been asked what I drive, I left the conversation at that exact moment. I consider asking me about my finances as a sign of someone seeking a financial arrangement. I would never date any woman who asks me what I drive or how much I have. I'd rather go it alone, and keep whatever money I have.
the judging people regrding cars is hilarious. 99% of dudes with a super car are broke. Case in point. Associate of mine owns a corvette. However he rents a rat infested house and complains about not being able to ever afford a downpayment for a property.
What I find funny is that most of these kind of women who think they're too good for 'low tier' guys because of their high paying jobs are in a shit ton of debt and actually BROKE in that regard. It's one thing to have a solid gig but how much savings do you have? How much on your car or home do you still owe? How much in credit card bills do you have stacked up? 🤨
Years ago, I was on a first date, and the woman, a nurse, said that I, as a fitness trainer, couldn't compare to her in my income. I told her I could see why that would be a concern to her. But I also let her know that as she didn't work out, that would be my concern. She was taken aback, and a little irritated. Anyway, that was the ned of the date.
Thank you Courtney for bringing some sense and perspective to these issues. It was another home run when you talked about how it's both actions and intentions that are important when determining a person's character. You're always able to look past the opinions being thrown around in the videos you review and use your own wisdom and values to break down what's going on. You're a great example, not just to women but to everyone, of thinking critically, being reasonable and being gracious which is much needed when there's so much toxicity in today's world. Keep doing what you're doing, I know you restore a lot of hope and faith in all of us watching that there are still good women and people with strong morals left. You're like the big sister everyone needs.
It's like a guy asking a woman her sexual kinks or her bra size or her body count or anything else that overtly communicates he's thinking about and prioritizing sex. I wonder if that chick would ever date a guy who did that to her on the first date 😂😂😂
@@MotorBorg Maybe, maybe not. Plenty of men have been labeled negative things and passed up on by women for being so forward, even if they were high status men.
@@hannahstriker Weird according to who? Red flag in whose opinion? Obviously the more unique of a thing someone is into, the harder it will be to find someone else into it too. And the more prepared to be disappointed that person has to be that they won't find a match. But I'm not gonna shame anyone for their interests as long as they're consensual and aren't infringing on anyone else's rights or causing harm.
This person lost out on $60 million dollars when they let her go from Call Her Daddy at Barstool sports. She did this because of bad advice from her former boyfriend. She is definitely less successful than she is intimating. You don't get to claim your former Podcast host's salary as your own. They let her go because she wasn't valuable to the brand. Fumbling the bag harder than anyone ever has before is not "successful".
She's one of a sea of cute girls who know how instagram filters work. I don't know how much she pulls in now, but unlike most people who make their money from becoming more skilled and learning new things, she's probably already hit her peak.
Allegedly she wanted more money than the actual value she provided to the show and they moved on without her. 🤷♂️ then she blamed everyone else for her failure to deal and got depressed 🛣️
WRONG Courtney! The first / or second question Every girl asks is ""what do you do for a living." Meaning "how much money do you have / am I wasting my time talking to you?" the second unanswerable question a guy is always asked "why aren't you married?" There is no good answer for eithor one of these questions ... Now I do realize a girl wants / needs to find a man who will support her, That said, their attittude makes them unattractive... No guy wants to feel used any more than any girl does.
@@andersnielsen6044 that’s some 18th century shit. Women are strong and independent remember? Except the bit where they want a “daddy” to provide their cash for them
@@andersnielsen6044 Yeah, it’s only men that have to uphold traditions while women just 304 around and leave marriages because of their bored inner 304. All the things that men offered in the past have been taken off the table. Modern Women arent living up to their half of the deal. Theres the equality you boss babes demanded. Enjoy
Courtney Ryan said, "Asking someone for their bank account information on date 1 just makes it seem like money is all that you care about." The woman in the TikTok video literally said that's what she cares about, & it's a deal breaker. It doesn't seem that way, it is that way.
I had a gal I was into ask me my salary on the second date. At that moment, I lost all interest. She loved my number when I finally gave it up after her incessant probing, but ghosted here afterwards and lead her on till she figured it out.
Easy solution: Show her your bank account, tell her it’s incredibly rude she asked and you’re no longer interested, pay your side of the bill (bc she can clearly afford hers), and walk out.
So strange to think back when people dated because they met someone they just got along with. I think everyone is just dating a caricature now. One one side, the virginal 50's housewife... and on the other, the 80's style big money CEO cool guy with his nicely tailored suit and Lambo... Everyone is just a lifestyle accessory to show off to your jealous friends on social media.
This is what I'm saying. Ppl are too focused on all the flashy, the attention-seeking behaviors, fakery & chasing unicorns to be able to appreciate or even notice what's real anymore. The digital age has royally screwed up society in far too many ways to list.
I think implying the standards are symmetrical or both M and W are equally responsible is disingenuous. Even within the premise you described, housewives with their V card intact used to be a high percentage of the population. 80s CEO Lambo guy and his equivalents through history have never been widely available, ever. It's not the same.
@@Sensorium19 Historically, certainly not... but in this day and age? Do you know a virgin over 18 (that's female)? I'm not trying to say either is better. I think both viewpoints have become... unrealistic? Actually, maybe that's not true, I think you could make the argument that women desiring the "CEO types" are probably being more realistic. I know that sounds crazy, but... as an average dude... I can't get a date with a sub-4 out there. But the "mildly attractive" women I went to high school with? They have easy access to musicians, pro athletes, business execs, etc. Sure, maybe not for marriage, but... I would argue these "crazy women" are playing in a market that is very real. Us guys? There really is no market from what I can tell (assuming you're average).
@@lockyp204 relationships in general aren't taken seriously at all these days. Ppl either treat it like a status symbol or ownership. "If you get bored? Just hop onine, replace, wash, rinse & repeat!" I know on the women's end of online dating, there's a LOT of married men on the sites which, when the wives find out, pretty much guarantees divorce.
These people going viral can't be real. Some of the things they say is so bad, they can't be legitimate. They must be doing this for attention. Negative attention to these people is better than no attention at all. Wouldn't be surprised if in real life she has a long-term partner and this is just a charade.
It's only in goofy TikToks on the Internet that ridiculous statements like this come from women. In the real world, nobody talks like this.....AT ALL. However, you know the women who follow her probably do believe in this ideology and will remain single forever.
Ive experienced this directly 2x (asking for account statements) and multiple times just asking how much I make a year. Every time im asked this they have such poor social skills that they dont even know why that causes me to walk faaar away from them. I have NEVER been asked this question since I switched to dating foreign women.
Totally agree. In the real world normal functional emotionally stable woman do not talk like that. In 30 years dating NO WOMAN has EVER asked me how much I make.
Ive had this happen twice so far. Both times it was an immediate turn off and shattered any developing trust I had in her. This also shows the really aweful social skills many women have now in the west. I'm seeing a nice Korean girl now and she has never asked for such a thing.
This happened to me recently. So I showed her the money, and she was quite impressed. We ended up going on a few more dates. Told her I was really into her and got what I wanted out of it. After that, I ghosted her. She’s been texting me ever since. Whatever, gold diggers gonna dig. I ain’t no hater
Lol well done on attracting gold diggers? Personally, if you tried to use money to gain my attention, I'd walk away in a heartbeat. There's a big difference between value & quality.
Mate, you got a stalker and chipped another piece out of her mind all for a tussle in the hay? Was it worth it? Should have showed her the money and walked away. Discourage thid kind of behavior by being better men. You deserve what you tolerate.
All you did was reinforce that her bad behavior is okay. You went out with her several times after so she isn't going to put together that the reason you ghosted her is because of what she asked on the first date. And honestly, what you did was just as shallow. She wanted to use you for money so you used her for sex; you still used a person. Next time don't ask her out on a second and spend your time courting someone you have an actual interest in.
Thank you for bringing this crazy behavior into an open discussion. I've witnessed this kind of behavior in an early relationship. After a about a year of selfish and destructive dating I broke it off. In my experience these are women who have little real understanding of men or relationships. In the last generation these would have been divorced and bitter middle-aged women. Today, they start out bitter and skip the marriage and children altogether. The girl in the video is saving countless guys a wasted year of their lives. We're honestly better off knowing the truth.
I've had more than 3 dates ask to see proof of how much I make... one wanted proof before going on the date. Asking to see their credit karma on date one is not uncommon either. But I can't even think about their body count... so much more peace since I got out of the dating game, honestly.
Is she gonna let them know what her bank balance is? If hers isn't his business, then his isn't hers...as soon as a woman asks me that, especially on the first date, date over...if they need my bank info at any point after the first date, relationship over... glad I'm not dealing with this 🐂💩 anymore...
It is always so refreshing to see, that ladies like you Courtney have an understanding of realism and actually try to make the dating market a better place.
That's a lot of b.s. why show her your bank account if she asks you for yours he should ask her the same question, if she asks you to show her your Bank account show it and then walk away
Sadly this is not an isolated or even a recent scenario. It is a common reality within the dating world (speaking for myself). I've experienced this as well as women who inform me they expect a dating allowance on the first phone to say hello. Just another reason why I've stopped and have zero interest in dating. I still remember deleting every dating app off my phone and feeling instant relief. Also, if I may. I see this as a prevalent and quite specific issue with American women. As someone who has travelled quite a bit overseas over several decades and have no doubt this behavior exists everywhere. I've never experienced anything like this outside the states. My $0.02.
as a matchmaker and coach I feel that many of these are things people talk about on social media, but not conversations I am having with actual clients.
Honestly, its not the women that ask things like this on the first date that scare me. They're doing men the favor of showing their true colors immediately. Its the women that think this way and are really good at hiding it. Deceitful, manipulative women are absolutely out there, and the havok they can wreak on a man's finances these days is no joke. Its my experience with women like that (as well as seeing quite a few men in my life that have been financially ruined by divorce) that has me convinced Im better off single. Bad women can be terrifyingly good at wearing the mask of a good woman for a long time
I also ask for bank account details, login names, and passwords on first dates. It's just to make sure my date is on the same level as me and has nothing to do with my prior conviction for wire fraud and estafa.
As a 44 year old dude that does pretty well; what I noticed is that in the minds of most women being successful as a woman means the following. You are employed making over $70k a year, have a luxury car lease you can barely afford, rent a place that you can barely make the rent payment on, and you don't need no man but you do want one so he can pay for your extras like hair, nail, and vacations. This is the reality we live in today. Create the illusion of wealth while being delusional about wealth.
I ask a woman out where I work and she told me the only way i can be in a relationship with her is if i buy her a car im like nope since she didn't want a relationship i just said hope u find what u are looking for. Im glad saw that red flag right away.
i had a girl i dated for 3 weeks go through my investment account statements and try that "BUTTTT you have all that money just sitting there, I need a car!!"🙄wait, why are you breaking up with me!?!?🤣
This is the type of content that I've been waiting for -- speaking about finances and dating, I guess, this is the core of it, the essence so to speak, the main struggle for a lot of us guys out there. Thanks for bringing it up
Traits that are desirable to women are generally not desirable to men. Women (generally) seek powerful, ambitious, wealthy, and successful men. Confidence, someone who can command a room, take charge, and has authority are a good thing. However, these are not desirable to men. Agreeable, nice, kind, not argumentative, a companion. My wife and I are not the same at all, but we fill the gaps in each other's personalities.
I had a gal ask me to take her on an all expenses paid trip to Disney for our 2nd date because she said she's worth at least that much. We barely started dating and it already felt like getting her time and attention was gonna be transactional 😂
As a woman, I think that is the WEIRDEST question to ask a guy on a first date. Because 1. It's none of their business 2. The question itself speaks volumes about their character (aka being seen as a gold digger) Like if I asked my boyfriend how much money he makes since I know we both have jobs now. I think he would run away. Yeah, very very weird question to ask really. Tsk tsk tsk
Guys, stop worrying about what women want. You gotta pull yourself together. Move to Philly, get 6 or 7 roommates, eat hummus with them, start a noise band, listen to Animal Collective.
Not common, but I have had it happen. The more common question is what do you do for a living, which is the polite way to get a good idea and learn something about you.
I've literally met several women like this when I was dating. Not only did they ask about my income, but also wanted to see my resume. And these were normal average women.. I hope women like these enjoy old age alone.
I have been asked for my account info on dating sites. Another thing that makes me mad is when the first thing a woman asks me is about my income first thing. That just shows me she has absolutely no interest in me. As far as I'm concerned I'm not worried about a woman's income but their morals, standards, behavior, etc. You know, the REAL things that real and healthy honest relationships are built on. I understand that being financially stable matters but it shouldn't be the main focus on happiness and compatibility. When that's the first thing a woman asks me, they never hear from me again.
if she wants to set standards like that, thats fine. might be cutting out over 3/4 of the dating market, but anyone should be able to set their standards. just as long as they dont get mad when guys turn around and expect their women to not be overweight and to do more of the motherly duties. i mean is it that hard to let it happen both ways?
i have stood up from dates because of that exact question about bank account info or hove much do you earn and of course i ghosted them right after i told them so they know what they mist out on ;-)
The mega rich guys I know got there by spending wisely and choosing partners carefully. The kinda rich guys flash their wealth, spending and sleeping around. She's inadvertently screening the second type, who use their wealth transactionally for, umm, whatever girls like her are called.
it is rather demoralizing as tradesman hearing stuff these women say. I'm above the average income but I can atleast say i''m not sitting there with 60k in student loans. The whole bachelor degree requirements are nuts too, I have more schooling in my specific trade then their schooling for their job they got with the 4 year degree.
I've dated more women than I can count the last few years. Never once had a woman ask something so ridiculous, nor even how much I made. Not even the women I was with for a few months, not a single one ever asked. All the women I dated for some time shared expenses even though they knew I made considerably more than them. All they knew was that I was in engineering, so I wasn't poor. There will be plenty of claims in the comments that they were asked and I'm calling it right now: Bullshit in most cases. Side note - I'll say it again. Boys, never ask a body count. In my 40s, I've never once asked a woman and I've never had one ask me (and I'm thankful they haven't asked). Grow the fuck up. One issue though is that what the video said doesn't jive. Her wanting a rich man is NOT the same as a successful woman wanting an equally successful man.
Women really don’t care how much money you make as much as people think. How smart and responsible are you with the money you make and are you not a loser? That’s pretty much all you need be concerned about with most women and men’s money if you exclude the obvious gold diggers.
And yet as more and more women graduate with advanced degrees, increasingly paid the same as men and entering high paying fields wouldn't it be grown up for women to date and marry men making less money than them? Wouldn't that be real equality and egalitarian? I reject your notion that it is immature for a man and woman to know a potential partner's morals and values. Like most areas of life, past performance is a strong indicator of future behavior. This absurd notion that human intimacy is no different than animal sex with multiple sexual partners defies the growing evidence of increased rates of STD infections & drug resistant STDs (no matter how early and often contraceptive & sex ed is taught), sexual dysfunction, sterility and false paternity claims. Asking about a woman's body count is no different than a woman asking a potential partner if they view porn, have a porn addiction and/ or untreatable STD. These practices are consistently proven detriments to long term relationships and sexual intimacy. Self-control, discipline and delayed gratification are key characteristics of adulthood and reliable track record of making wise choices in the "heat of the moment".
I always find this interesting because I don't know ANY women who act like this. What I do notice is guys who will try to use their wallets to impress which naturally IS going to attract the wrong types & drive off the women who see that shallow nonsense as a red flag. Men liken dating to fishing yet forget the number 1 most basic rule: the type of bait you choose & where you cast determines what you catch. Fish with your wallet, you'll catch GDs. Fish with your d*ck, you'll catch h*es. Prize fish aren't found in shallow mudpuddles either.
Most don’t come right out and ask to see your bank account but they ask probing questions for the purpose of ascertaining your income level / lifestyle. Most dates feel like a job interview
She does have every right to want to date a wealthy guy, she’s beautiful and probably can demand that. But wealthy guys, if that’s really what you want… 🤷 😂
Yep, she's totally in her rights to do that. She too can experience the joy of being cheated on and being "traded in for a newer Model" when things start getting saggy. The rest of us will choose love and know the joy of holding our saggy best friends in our arms for the rest of our lives.
3:20 This. It’s one thing to ask questions about what someone does for work, their aspirations or goals for their future, what they like to do for fun etc but when you ask someone for what’s in their bank account it just makes you seem like someone who allows themselves to care about others once you know the number that you think defines them. You can have a job and think that you’re on a level that others have to be on as well but if your mentality is like that then yeah you might want to get that pen and paper out because you’re gonna wanna add a + symbol to the last 3.
The delusional dating standards will continue forever, because women don't think logically. All you need to know is "The Husband Store." There's a reason it says the women can't go back down a floor. Once a woman has been flown out, or spent time on a yacht, or in a $500 sports car, or in a mansion, they are wrecked. Their minds are wrecked. They will forever want that. It's the Disney Princess life they want, and once they get a taste, their minds are wrecked. They may think they can be realistic after that, but they are not, and we see it every day. Oh sure, they may realize they won't get the Yacht, Mansion and $500k+ sports car, but it has set the bar way too high. When they come back off that, it's still too high. Most men will never own anything close to those, and there will always be a part of her that wants it, and resents him for not providing it. This is what hookup culture has done. Women are wrecked. Most men would rather live through the hardships of the 1800s, and have a real woman by their side, than deal with what is available to them today.
The irony is guys are actively chasing these kinds of chicks & ignoring the rest. If a dude is chasing strange in the club or bar, he won't find the woman at home cooking a full course meal from scratch. If he's scrolling Instagram, focused on the filtered & photoshopped thirst traps, he's not going to find the modest women. If he's too stuck on the beliefs that "all women are only good for pump-n-dumps" that dictates that he'll only treat every woman as a hole & won't have a chance to even notice genuine character. A lot of ppl sabotage themselves by focusing on all the wrong things. By giving all their attention to the fakers & attention-seekers they claim to not want, it only guarantees they'll never find what's real.
@@justacoginthefkery The problem for most men today, is that the "modest" women mostly don't exist, and often, simply aren't very good looking at all, and like it or not, looks do matter. It's hard to get excited about a woman who doesn't excite you. Thankfully, we have a world where women may not need men, but men don't need women either. Washing machines, restaurants on every corner, etc. Men can take care of themselves. So just as women are free to pursue the men they want, the same is true for men. Nobody has to "settle." But, the downside is that most people will be alone in their old age.
@@justacoginthefkery Also, women moving into the workforce, reduced a man's ability to provide, as the median income is now based on 2 incomes, not just one. So having a trad-wife is more of a pipe dream for most men. Most can't afford it. Those that can, have so much sexual access, they don't actually want to get married anymore.
@@leroyrussell8766 nah, corporate greed, inflation & goofy spending habits created the 2 income requirements. When I was a stay-at-home mom, my ex made under 40k, no financial assistance, most bills were paid up 3-6 mo in advance (I handled the budget & always round up so it stacks), kept 2 mo of food on hand, still had simple pleasures & managed to buy a modest house. That was less than 6 yrs ago. So I know it can be done. On attraction, sure, it helps, but a lot of ppl don't know what's real anymore. I've spoken to guys who truly believe that women should be without facial pores (we'd die) or the waist as small as your head is somehow normal. They can't fathom that what they see on Instagram or OF is all filters & photoshopped fakery & then base their "standards of attraction" on something that doesn't exist. "Those types of women don't exist"... They do, they're just not grabbing oodles of certain types of attention. In my own case, a lot of guys I've spoken to have expressed shock when they find out I was single & celibate for 5 yrs. Why? Because the internet has told them "all women have a 5 guy rotation at all times, hoards of guys in their dms, blah blah blah." So you know what happens? Nothing. I don't have insta, no TikTok, no Snapchat & don't bother with selfies on fb = no dms, no validation. Tried online dating once this yr for 2 months & hated the process. Since everyone apparently assumes I get compliments & asked out all the time, no one bothers. "Oh, I thought you heard it all the time so I figured you'd get annoyed." Nope. I get plenty of stares, men are pretty respectful, chivalrous & friendly, so I must not be completely hidious. But no one expresses interest because as I find out later, they all apparently assume my reality for me & then operate from a place of "why bother?" You could pull the "you could approach card", but I have. I like the shy nerdy types myself so it's pretty much necessary with them. Since it's so outside of the norm though, men immediately question it. "Why is SHE talking to me when she should already have her pick? She must be desperate, easy or broken if she's single." A man's assumptions then dictate his actions. I know this happens because I have had men reach out to apologize after some reflection & admit for that mindset of assumptions leading to them screwing up their own chances & pushing me away. Why? Because they've been fed so many lines about "all women are" & "all women want".
In the UK, banks do not divulge customers bank details, except to law enforcement under very special circumstances, so why does a potential partner expect a man to give out those details to her when they've only just met. I don't believe this is the norm, even in the USA.
I like what you said about intentions. Intensions are so highly thought of over actions that many people ignore whatever results comes after. If a person ends up with a bad result, it says a lot about their character when they brush it off, don't try to fix the issues they caused, and say that they intended good.
I love what Courtney does and I really hope her videos help young guys out there who struggle with the complexities of modern dating. Courtney always tells is like it is and gives quality advice. She’s very genuine if only we had more girls like that in society. One problem amongst many is how easily girls are influenced by nature women are followers so it’s easy for them to get misled.
As messed up as that is , the one positive to come out of it is she's played the money card right away ,and if that's not OK with you , you know right away to move on . No wasted time money or false hope . If all a woman cares about is $ leave a vapor trail .
Gentleman and Ms. Ryan this is why i don't place any effort and use it towards my goals... When that time comes i'm on that plane going where i will be appreciated... More power to anyone that believes there's still a chance but my chances had worn out it's welcome...
No woman has ever asked me how much I earn or how much I have in my bank account, but if one asks me, I immediately say goodbye saying that it has been a displeasure to meet her.
When I was in my 20's, I refused relationships because I thought it would be irresponsible due to not having a high-paying job. Now, many years later, I'm financially in a good position... but I now refuse relationships because I am unable to find morally upright, good women. Unfortunate that I probably would have had a better chance for a good relationship 10 years ago with little financial security, than today with culture the way it has become.
I would never share my financial information with anybody I just met. On a first date, that's not just a red flag; that's a black flag. I would be fine getting up and leaving in that moment. Also, love the dress.
i genuinely appreciate the TikTok girl's honesty. I believe that part of what makes dating so exhausting is navigating and sorting through the lies. When you provide your expectations up front, it saves a lot of headache and mature people can usually come out of it unoffended. Unfortunately for her, its unlikely that she'll find what she's looking for because her priorities will not match with many. When it comes to "bad" people, they can either lie and get what they can, or tell the truth and likely not get anything at all.
Like the summer vibe today with the cute dress! I have met a few women like this and it is a flag to me that the goal is more shallow and transactional. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, she is looking for compatibility up front and is not experienced or patient enough to figure it out with shared experiences and observation. Dating alot can make a person jaded too.
If someone ask you about your bank account, you leave, period! Concerning the questions men ask weight is not the same with bank account. As for how common this is, I am from Europe, and from personal experience Russian, Ukrainian ( extremely beautiful ) and generally exUSSR are asking about it in first or second date, and those who doesn't ask they measure, watches clothes etc. Lastly financially stable and wealthy are not the same.
As someone who’s been considered successful for my age, I’ve had difficulty dating because I chose bad men, men who were insecure. However I’ve learned my lesson. But I do not think that anyone is entitled to expensive things from someone because not everyone can afford expensive things! love shouldn’t even be about money. It’s sad it’s come to this. There is a real entitlement issue among people these days.
I'm all about more freedom for women but god, clips like this makes me want to go back to the olden days in which women had less career opportunities so they stop saying "get on my level." The level of arrogance.
I know a girl in TX who married a wealthy guy at 30 to advance her music career, it lasted 10 yrs. they divorced, she is now married to a doctor age 58 and she is still chasing a music career! I don't think she ever worked a real job in her entire life!
Something similar happened to my co-worker. His date asked him how much money he made within 15 minutes of the date. It kind of shocked him since he is recently divorced from a 15 marriage.
You know she doesn't know anything about money and how wealth is built if she thinks his money is sitting in his bank account
Also a great point lol
True, I have more money sitting in a cold storage wallet than I do in the bank.
You know it
Most people today don't even understand net worth. You can make 250K a year and still be dead broke and in the hole. Keeping up with the Jones, is what most women are looking at.
I carry all my money in my wallet! 😅
If we're not actually engaged and planning a marriage and the finances of our living together, then asking for my bank account information on any date, let alone on date 1, would be "date over" and there would be no more dates.
Agreed
Only a beta simp would give out such info on a first date. And she would quickly grow unattracted to a beta simp dooming the relationship from the start.
Just walk out when she does not give you a body count.
She never asked. It's all just a ploy for ratings.
That's why she's still dating & for a long foreseable future.
Social Media has ruined society :(
Just like feminism has. It's absurd that masculinity and femininity are a crime when they are natural and supplemental
There's a big surprise there.🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Amen
Wrong take. SOMEONE has ruined society. Social media has not RUINED Arabic societies where SOMEONE has the least amount of rights. SOMEONE ruined social media.
No joke
A lot of men do not care about how successful you are, if you don’t have that kind sweet personality and mindset that men are looking for nowadays, they’re moving on. I’m pretty sure a lot of us would much rather date the woman that works at McDonald’s that’s feminine, kind, smart, peaceful, emotional mature, etc than the woman that’s rich but has a horrible personality, rude, creates drama, etc.
Spot on there TSierra.
All of the above is absolute majority consensus
All these women pursue being successful because their mothers and grandmothers told them to so they could never rely on men. Now, they’re wondering why they can never rely on men. lol
Probably won’t be that attractive though…
It's crazy how well "they" were able to manipulate women into thinking men actually give af about their careers/income.
And if you've ever told a woman in your life IRL about this fact they look genuinely shocked and confused. Like they cannot even fathom someone they're interested in not caring about how much money they make 🤣
I remember telling my sister this years ago when she started dating her now husband and it literally turned into an hr long argument lmao
With all due respect to that woman, but seriously, what kind of question is that? No woman has ever asked me that question, and if she did, I would politely tell her "Miss, that's none of your business. All you got to know is that I work hard, and I strive to be better in all aspects of my life every day."
Add in lies, is egotistical, unfaithful, can not carry a normal conversation, has a plan B, wants every meal, shelter, clothing paid for the rest of her life.
Maybe if she were an alternate reality Sophia Vergara who cured cancer, I'd consider it.
That's far too nice. The correct response to that question is "get out of my car"
My parents taught me that questions around "how much do you make" or "what's your net worth" should be answered with "I live comfortably"
Yeah they have, You just missed it....What is your job? Lie, my favorite ' I tappy tap tap on a computer ', and see how it goes
I feel like dating has changed from “this is who I am, what I do, the things I enjoy, stuff I like, let me know if you’re interested!” To “I want this, I expect that, you better have this, and don’t be that. If you’re not all of these then piss off.” Like it went from showcasing what you have to offer to a set of demands that must be met.
When did dating go from a resume to a shopping list…
When I was filtering women on eHarmony recently I immediately cut all the ones that had demand lists. Except the one I eventually chose, her demand was "must have own income" 😄
Everything wrong with dating when?
Its kind of always been this way. The buttress in the past to this behavior was the religious types getting people married before they could even think like this. Ever since the rise of secularism and parents teaching their kids to live for themselves this has become a bigger issue.
It happened when dating became a "market."
I feel like men expect too much from women these days, too. I don't think it's possible for anyone to both work a job and raise children these days. Jobs are so demanding and take too much time. Then, if a woman chooses not to work or works a minimum wage job due to disabilities, not as much education, etc, women feel like they can't measure up to expectations men may have for them.
Why is she bothering to be 'successful' if she still wants to be provided for? What's the point of her being a 'boss babe' if she doesn't want to be the boss?
So she can spend all of the dudes money without touching her own. Then she blows her money on stupid handbags and other worthless crap.
so she can simultaneously depend on a man and convince herself she isn't
Hey you’re asking them for logic. Steady on Buddy 🤣
Because she is not actually successful. Just her demeanour and misuse of language points elsewhere. There are only a few places she could be doing well… that’s on OF and the like. That’s why she only wants a rich guy.
Because humans can't just ditch millions of years of biology... we're still just hardwired to want to eat, f😊k, sleep, and repeat. Our modern social conditioning is what complicated this to an insane level... and by suicidal conditioning, I mean people cranking out bs dissertations to get their PhDs and subsequently useless drivel to support their theories and earn a paycheck off of it.
Being on the same page regarding finance is extremely important. However, as Dave Ramsay said, "it's not what you earn, it's what you keep". If the motivation from this lady is rooted in just finding an ATM to marry, no amount of money is enough. Wealthy people do not generally live a wealthy lifestyle.
A person's bank account information is one of the most private things they have. You can have your bank account emptied by scammers. She's one of those types of people. She doesn't just ask to see men's bank account information, she expects to see it, she thinks she's entitled. She's a dumpster fire....
I would politely walk out if someone asked me that, but thats just me.
I would do the exact same thing.
I wouldn't be polite.
Same
Edited: polite or not*
Edit: Believe me fellas if i said what i wanted to say to more than a few of the girls like this....i would need a belt.
Thankfully most people would never ask that on a date so at least on that front we are good
Men who have 20k in their bank account may have 60 million dollars in assets. She clearly isn’t very intelligent if she thinks money in the bank is the sole significant factor in determining someone’s wealth. That in turn leads me to believe she’s not as “successful” as she claims she is.
It's about stacking those assets
What is it that they say in economics, business law, or Finance classes? It is diversify your portfolio! But first you have to have the means to do so.
Someone that stupid wouldn’t understand what an asset is. If it’s not liquid it must not exist.
Her I Q is below average
I recently had a woman suddenly flip out on the 3rd date after I asked "how many boyfriends have you had?". I only asked cause she asked if I was a cheater. She went off on a tangent after I asked that question, even accidentally saying "you're not going to like what you hear regardless" and the next day she texted me that it wouldn't work out between us due to what was said the prior night. It was the wildest flip out out of nowhere I had seen, as she got severely upset. I suspect the number was astronomical, as I didnt even say the typical "whats your body count" question. These ny women are absurd lol
She a 304 and rightly ashamed of it.
You dodged a bazooka.
Most women will try to gauge your financial situation by asking the question, "So what do you do for a living?" If you tell them and it isn't a career/job that impresses them, that's the point they will write you off.
I had a hilarious one like that. Her family thought I was poor and stupid because I was a soldier in my youth (Ive been investing since my teens). I made 2x the money the writer her family forced her to marry😂 I dodged a serious bullet that time though because she cheated on mr writer after 4 yrs of marriage. Dont just look at her, look at the kind of family she has too
It really saddens me when I see content such as her's, and the great amount of women who think this way. They're reducing men to wallets, and there are some men who look upon women as only sexual partners (this also applies to women) modern feminism has promoted this as empowering for women, but I don't see how it really benefits them in the long run, as any worthwhile men won't find this behaviour attractive. None of this is good for relationships in the long run, it amazes me why they can't see it.
I'd say "live with it". Those women can behave however they want... with the results that come with it! That kind of behavior is unacceptable for me, just wish they'll be happy with the man compatible with them!
@@guyboisvert66 Yes, agreed, 100%.
You hit the point. BUT i would go a step further. I think way to many woman and men are used to make a list what the partner has to to provide on a superficial level.
They forget that a very good looking woman often has a very problematic personality, since they get steady offers from men from early age on and that leads to the need to get permanent attention and validation from others. OR a woman wants a high income men and does not understand that this comes naturally with being very focused at the job and with a high investment time wise, with the result that he cant spend to much time with the her or the family.
People who make those abstract lists of wishes barley see the other side of the coin. They just see that status that comes with this points and not the costs.
@@rapsack7058 Women who show signs of narcissism tend to look for partners with some pretty high demands, like wanting them to have good financial prospects and a favorable social status. Machiavellian women also prefer men with good financial prospects when it comes to both short and long-term relationships, according to a study that explores the interplay between Dark Triad traits, sociosexual orientation, and mate preferences in both short and long-term relationships.
Source: Urszula M. Marcinkowska a, Gayle Brewer b, Agata Jaremba b, Imogen Jones b, Elin Payne b, Minna T. Lyons b, Dark triad, sociosexual orientation, and mate preferences in short and long-term relationships - Exploratory study, October 2021, Science Direct
@@rapsack7058 very astute observation. Someone once told me a long time ago that everything has its cost. The older I got the more I saw that point. Nothing in this life is really for free. There's generally a price to be paid one way or another.
LOL! I remember a woman rejected me when I tried to introduce myself to her saying "I didn't go through 4 years of college getting a degree to end up with a short guy". I overheard one conversation with a woman talking to another woman on the phone saying "you're going to school to be a nurse and he's only 5'10... you deserve someone better than that"
lmao, I had the same occur. I am financially succesful to the point I dont have to work anymore. Being judged for only being 5'8 is hilarious because it shows me exactly how aweful they are.
Yes because all guys under 6 foot have bad personalities smh 🤷♂️
Don't feel bad man. I'm 6 foot 3 and had a group of women at a bar tell me I was too short before.
@Don Leon
Didn't you know that you're not allowed to go to nursing school when you don't make the promise to marry a 9 foot giant?😂
Cheers!✌
@@ActivateBeastMode1 damn less than 10% of the entire male population is over 6’3 wtf
Important point Courtney made about how if a guy were to ask a woman her body count or weight on the first date it’s generally perceived as rude and inappropriate - a “how dare you!” moment. Yet, that same woman believes she’s entitled to ask a man how much money he makes on a first date. The more I watch these videos from Courtney and other creators, the more I realize that being divorced, I am much better off staying single and out of relationships.
I only got married because I felt bad for keeping my woman in a situationship waiting. Now i'm divorced too. Modern day women are so messed up in the head, its not even funny... They shouldn't be able to vote. They only think with their emotions.
There are a lot of crazy, toxic women out there, but being aware of them doesn't mean you need to give up on finding a normal person. Take a break if you need to recoup. Then get back out there if it is something you still want.
Yeah, you're better off alone that having problems! In my case, just open my eyes and ears, i was ready to meet somebody. I was patient, had some fun meeting. Showed class and interest, wanted to know who was in front of me. Knew what i wanted and not. I wish you the same! There is somebody for you out there, you just to make it into having a chance to meet her ...and recognize her!
@@barongerhardt I hear you, but it’s not something I’m concerning myself with any longer. No shade on those still looking but I’m done.
@@guyboisvert66 Glad things are working out for you! Live your best life!
I've been asked how much I make a few times. After the women asked me that, I ghosted them. I've also been asked what I drive, I left the conversation at that exact moment. I consider asking me about my finances as a sign of someone seeking a financial arrangement. I would never date any woman who asks me what I drive or how much I have. I'd rather go it alone, and keep whatever money I have.
the judging people regrding cars is hilarious. 99% of dudes with a super car are broke. Case in point. Associate of mine owns a corvette. However he rents a rat infested house and complains about not being able to ever afford a downpayment for a property.
The proper response is to ask the waiter or waitress to Bring separate checks, pay for yourself, and leave.
But she is really successful. You should let her pay the whole bill.
Imagine if you ask a woman, "How tight is your ----" or "Do you have a gag reflex"
Lord help us
What I find funny is that most of these kind of women who think they're too good for 'low tier' guys because of their high paying jobs are in a shit ton of debt and actually BROKE in that regard. It's one thing to have a solid gig but how much savings do you have? How much on your car or home do you still owe? How much in credit card bills do you have stacked up? 🤨
Most have no idea what net worth is anyways as they go broke renting and wasting money on vacations/junk instead of buying assets
Years ago, I was on a first date, and the woman, a nurse, said that I, as a fitness trainer, couldn't compare to her in my income. I told her I could see why that would be a concern to her. But I also let her know that as she didn't work out, that would be my concern. She was taken aback, and a little irritated. Anyway, that was the ned of the date.
You dropped this king 👑
New fan and my God is Courtney a breath of fresh air it's so nice to hear a woman not demonize us
Damn, that’s sad. Are you literally only around toxic women? I see them every once in a while but I meet a lot of good people every day.
Thank you Courtney for bringing some sense and perspective to these issues. It was another home run when you talked about how it's both actions and intentions that are important when determining a person's character. You're always able to look past the opinions being thrown around in the videos you review and use your own wisdom and values to break down what's going on. You're a great example, not just to women but to everyone, of thinking critically, being reasonable and being gracious which is much needed when there's so much toxicity in today's world. Keep doing what you're doing, I know you restore a lot of hope and faith in all of us watching that there are still good women and people with strong morals left. You're like the big sister everyone needs.
It's like a guy asking a woman her sexual kinks or her bra size or her body count or anything else that overtly communicates he's thinking about and prioritizing sex. I wonder if that chick would ever date a guy who did that to her on the first date 😂😂😂
Of course she would if he's a Chad millionaire.
@@MotorBorg Maybe, maybe not. Plenty of men have been labeled negative things and passed up on by women for being so forward, even if they were high status men.
An individual, regardless of gender, with "weird sexual kinks" is probably a red-flag in and of itself.
Hm her sexual kinks, bra size, body count etc are these things not mandatory knowledge already long BEFORE you go on a date? ;)
@@hannahstriker Weird according to who? Red flag in whose opinion? Obviously the more unique of a thing someone is into, the harder it will be to find someone else into it too. And the more prepared to be disappointed that person has to be that they won't find a match. But I'm not gonna shame anyone for their interests as long as they're consensual and aren't infringing on anyone else's rights or causing harm.
This person lost out on $60 million dollars when they let her go from Call Her Daddy at Barstool sports. She did this because of bad advice from her former boyfriend. She is definitely less successful than she is intimating. You don't get to claim your former Podcast host's salary as your own. They let her go because she wasn't valuable to the brand. Fumbling the bag harder than anyone ever has before is not "successful".
She's one of a sea of cute girls who know how instagram filters work. I don't know how much she pulls in now, but unlike most people who make their money from becoming more skilled and learning new things, she's probably already hit her peak.
Who are you talking about?
You have to f**k up pretty bad to get fired from Barstool, no?
That's interesting.
Allegedly she wanted more money than the actual value she provided to the show and they moved on without her. 🤷♂️ then she blamed everyone else for her failure to deal and got depressed 🛣️
WRONG Courtney! The first / or second question Every girl asks is ""what do you do for a living." Meaning "how much money do you have / am I wasting my time talking to you?" the second unanswerable question a guy is always asked "why aren't you married?" There is no good answer for eithor one of these questions ... Now I do realize a girl wants / needs to find a man who will support her, That said, their attittude makes them unattractive... No guy wants to feel used any more than any girl does.
It will never go past the 3rd question. So what do you? Gah, women have lost the plot.
Spot on. Most men does not want to accept that fact, but ALL women will examine if you are able to provide and protect her. ;)
@@andersnielsen6044 that’s some 18th century shit. Women are strong and independent remember? Except the bit where they want a “daddy” to provide their cash for them
@@lockyp204 Our human instincts has not changed for 1000's of years and they never will.
@@andersnielsen6044 Yeah, it’s only men that have to uphold traditions while women just 304 around and leave marriages because of their bored inner 304. All the things that men offered in the past have been taken off the table. Modern Women arent living up to their half of the deal. Theres the equality you boss babes demanded. Enjoy
Courtney Ryan said, "Asking someone for their bank account information on date 1 just makes it seem like money is all that you care about." The woman in the TikTok video literally said that's what she cares about, & it's a deal breaker. It doesn't seem that way, it is that way.
She never asked. It's all for ratings.
I had a gal I was into ask me my salary on the second date. At that moment, I lost all interest. She loved my number when I finally gave it up after her incessant probing, but ghosted here afterwards and lead her on till she figured it out.
Easy solution: Show her your bank account, tell her it’s incredibly rude she asked and you’re no longer interested, pay your side of the bill (bc she can clearly afford hers), and walk out.
Or don’t show her your bank account and tell her it was rude to ask that. Then leave. This Chick has 0 right to look at any one’s bank account.
So strange to think back when people dated because they met someone they just got along with. I think everyone is just dating a caricature now. One one side, the virginal 50's housewife... and on the other, the 80's style big money CEO cool guy with his nicely tailored suit and Lambo... Everyone is just a lifestyle accessory to show off to your jealous friends on social media.
This is what I'm saying. Ppl are too focused on all the flashy, the attention-seeking behaviors, fakery & chasing unicorns to be able to appreciate or even notice what's real anymore. The digital age has royally screwed up society in far too many ways to list.
I think implying the standards are symmetrical or both M and W are equally responsible is disingenuous. Even within the premise you described, housewives with their V card intact used to be a high percentage of the population. 80s CEO Lambo guy and his equivalents through history have never been widely available, ever. It's not the same.
@@Sensorium19 Historically, certainly not... but in this day and age? Do you know a virgin over 18 (that's female)? I'm not trying to say either is better. I think both viewpoints have become... unrealistic? Actually, maybe that's not true, I think you could make the argument that women desiring the "CEO types" are probably being more realistic. I know that sounds crazy, but... as an average dude... I can't get a date with a sub-4 out there. But the "mildly attractive" women I went to high school with? They have easy access to musicians, pro athletes, business execs, etc. Sure, maybe not for marriage, but... I would argue these "crazy women" are playing in a market that is very real. Us guys? There really is no market from what I can tell (assuming you're average).
It’s over. Honestly the end of times when it comes to marriage.
@@lockyp204 relationships in general aren't taken seriously at all these days. Ppl either treat it like a status symbol or ownership. "If you get bored? Just hop onine, replace, wash, rinse & repeat!" I know on the women's end of online dating, there's a LOT of married men on the sites which, when the wives find out, pretty much guarantees divorce.
These people going viral can't be real. Some of the things they say is so bad, they can't be legitimate. They must be doing this for attention. Negative attention to these people is better than no attention at all. Wouldn't be surprised if in real life she has a long-term partner and this is just a charade.
Of course they aren't real. What's sad is how many think so.
It's only in goofy TikToks on the Internet that ridiculous statements like this come from women. In the real world, nobody talks like this.....AT ALL. However, you know the women who follow her probably do believe in this ideology and will remain single forever.
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TikTok is a national security concern.
Re: "In the real world, nobody talks like this.....AT ALL."
Sadly, a few women do. I like to think they get the second dates they deserve.
Ive experienced this directly 2x (asking for account statements) and multiple times just asking how much I make a year. Every time im asked this they have such poor social skills that they dont even know why that causes me to walk faaar away from them. I have NEVER been asked this question since I switched to dating foreign women.
Totally agree. In the real world normal functional emotionally stable woman do not talk like that. In 30 years dating NO WOMAN has EVER asked me how much I make.
Ive had this happen twice so far. Both times it was an immediate turn off and shattered any developing trust I had in her. This also shows the really aweful social skills many women have now in the west. I'm seeing a nice Korean girl now and she has never asked for such a thing.
This happened to me recently. So I showed her the money, and she was quite impressed. We ended up going on a few more dates. Told her I was really into her and got what I wanted out of it. After that, I ghosted her. She’s been texting me ever since. Whatever, gold diggers gonna dig. I ain’t no hater
Nicely done👍
Lol well done on attracting gold diggers? Personally, if you tried to use money to gain my attention, I'd walk away in a heartbeat. There's a big difference between value & quality.
Mate, you got a stalker and chipped another piece out of her mind all for a tussle in the hay?
Was it worth it?
Should have showed her the money and walked away. Discourage thid kind of behavior by being better men. You deserve what you tolerate.
All you did was reinforce that her bad behavior is okay. You went out with her several times after so she isn't going to put together that the reason you ghosted her is because of what she asked on the first date. And honestly, what you did was just as shallow. She wanted to use you for money so you used her for sex; you still used a person. Next time don't ask her out on a second and spend your time courting someone you have an actual interest in.
@@brendanconlon8292 Exactly. Dude is just as low bar as the broads who use men for free dinner. Not the flex he thinks it is.
Thank you for bringing this crazy behavior into an open discussion. I've witnessed this kind of behavior in an early relationship. After a about a year of selfish and destructive dating I broke it off. In my experience these are women who have little real understanding of men or relationships. In the last generation these would have been divorced and bitter middle-aged women. Today, they start out bitter and skip the marriage and children altogether. The girl in the video is saving countless guys a wasted year of their lives. We're honestly better off knowing the truth.
I've had more than 3 dates ask to see proof of how much I make... one wanted proof before going on the date. Asking to see their credit karma on date one is not uncommon either.
But I can't even think about their body count... so much more peace since I got out of the dating game, honestly.
Do you live in the city?
@@cheyennesmith3365 Yes and in my 30s so that's part of the issue
Is she gonna let them know what her bank balance is? If hers isn't his business, then his isn't hers...as soon as a woman asks me that, especially on the first date, date over...if they need my bank info at any point after the first date, relationship over... glad I'm not dealing with this 🐂💩 anymore...
It is always so refreshing to see, that ladies like you Courtney have an understanding of realism and actually try to make the dating market a better place.
That's a lot of b.s. why show her your bank account if she asks you for yours he should ask her the same question, if she asks you to show her your Bank account show it and then walk away
If I met an _actual_ princess, I still wouldn't treat her like a _princess_
It's just ridiculous to treat a human being like royalty.
Good comment. I'll have to use that one day.
She is absolutely out of her mind!!🤯🤬
Sadly this is not an isolated or even a recent scenario. It is a common reality within the dating world (speaking for myself). I've experienced this as well as women who inform me they expect a dating allowance on the first phone to say hello. Just another reason why I've stopped and have zero interest in dating. I still remember deleting every dating app off my phone and feeling instant relief. Also, if I may. I see this as a prevalent and quite specific issue with American women. As someone who has travelled quite a bit overseas over several decades and have no doubt this behavior exists everywhere. I've never experienced anything like this outside the states. My $0.02.
as a matchmaker and coach I feel that many of these are things people talk about on social media, but not conversations I am having with actual clients.
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Honestly, its not the women that ask things like this on the first date that scare me. They're doing men the favor of showing their true colors immediately. Its the women that think this way and are really good at hiding it. Deceitful, manipulative women are absolutely out there, and the havok they can wreak on a man's finances these days is no joke. Its my experience with women like that (as well as seeing quite a few men in my life that have been financially ruined by divorce) that has me convinced Im better off single. Bad women can be terrifyingly good at wearing the mask of a good woman for a long time
Sick!!!! As a man I could go on and on. Just shaking my head. Truly sad on every level.
Happy Wednesday Courtney lookin classy as always keep up the great content 🌹🌹🌹
Thank you! 🥰
I also ask for bank account details, login names, and passwords on first dates. It's just to make sure my date is on the same level as me and has nothing to do with my prior conviction for wire fraud and estafa.
Remember when we used to date based off of love/liking someone for who they are as a person
These dates have never happened.. Perhaps to some extremely poor raised men..
Yes. Too bad I was too young for most of it. Lol
@@shiptj01Women has never dated anyone for love/liking reasons. That is an illusion!
As a 44 year old dude that does pretty well; what I noticed is that in the minds of most women being successful as a woman means the following. You are employed making over $70k a year, have a luxury car lease you can barely afford, rent a place that you can barely make the rent payment on, and you don't need no man but you do want one so he can pay for your extras like hair, nail, and vacations. This is the reality we live in today. Create the illusion of wealth while being delusional about wealth.
I ask a woman out where I work and she told me the only way i can be in a relationship with her is if i buy her a car im like nope since she didn't want a relationship i just said hope u find what u are looking for. Im glad saw that red flag right away.
i had a girl i dated for 3 weeks go through my investment account statements and try that "BUTTTT you have all that money just sitting there, I need a car!!"🙄wait, why are you breaking up with me!?!?🤣
and after that I bought a lockable safe for that info
@@keithcourneya4900 Why would you show your investment account statements to a girl you have dated only for three weeks?
This is the type of content that I've been waiting for -- speaking about finances and dating, I guess, this is the core of it, the essence so to speak, the main struggle for a lot of us guys out there. Thanks for bringing it up
Traits that are desirable to women are generally not desirable to men. Women (generally) seek powerful, ambitious, wealthy, and successful men. Confidence, someone who can command a room, take charge, and has authority are a good thing. However, these are not desirable to men. Agreeable, nice, kind, not argumentative, a companion. My wife and I are not the same at all, but we fill the gaps in each other's personalities.
I want to incorporate the word 'valid' into my vocabulary for chatting, especially as a sort of response of sympathy or understanding.
I had a gal ask me to take her on an all expenses paid trip to Disney for our 2nd date because she said she's worth at least that much. We barely started dating and it already felt like getting her time and attention was gonna be transactional 😂
100% turn off. She'd be an automatic no with her attitude asking for bank account info. So entitled
If you're asking this type of question on the first date, you will never have any relationship of any value.
She never asked it. All for shock value.
As a woman, I think that is the WEIRDEST question to ask a guy on a first date. Because
1. It's none of their business
2. The question itself speaks volumes about their character (aka being seen as a gold digger)
Like if I asked my boyfriend how much money he makes since I know we both have jobs now. I think he would run away. Yeah, very very weird question to ask really. Tsk tsk tsk
Guys, stop worrying about what women want. You gotta pull yourself together. Move to Philly, get 6 or 7 roommates, eat hummus with them, start a noise band, listen to Animal Collective.
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Not common, but I have had it happen.
The more common question is what do you do for a living, which is the polite way to get a good idea and learn something about you.
I've literally met several women like this when I was dating. Not only did they ask about my income, but also wanted to see my resume. And these were normal average women.. I hope women like these enjoy old age alone.
Since money is a concern to her, she should reveal her annual income first. This way, she can find out if the man is worth it or not.
She never mentioned income.
I have been asked for my account info on dating sites. Another thing that makes me mad is when the first thing a woman asks me is about my income first thing. That just shows me she has absolutely no interest in me. As far as I'm concerned I'm not worried about a woman's income but their morals, standards, behavior, etc. You know, the REAL things that real and healthy honest relationships are built on. I understand that being financially stable matters but it shouldn't be the main focus on happiness and compatibility. When that's the first thing a woman asks me, they never hear from me again.
if she wants to set standards like that, thats fine. might be cutting out over 3/4 of the dating market, but anyone should be able to set their standards. just as long as they dont get mad when guys turn around and expect their women to not be overweight and to do more of the motherly duties. i mean is it that hard to let it happen both ways?
She's only going to get simps.
i have stood up from dates because of that exact question about bank account info or hove much do you earn and of course i ghosted them right after i told them
so they know what they mist out on ;-)
The mega rich guys I know got there by spending wisely and choosing partners carefully. The kinda rich guys flash their wealth, spending and sleeping around. She's inadvertently screening the second type, who use their wealth transactionally for, umm, whatever girls like her are called.
Yep, the real wealthy people are the people that we don't notice.
it is rather demoralizing as tradesman hearing stuff these women say. I'm above the average income but I can atleast say i''m not sitting there with 60k in student loans. The whole bachelor degree requirements are nuts too, I have more schooling in my specific trade then their schooling for their job they got with the 4 year degree.
I've dated more women than I can count the last few years. Never once had a woman ask something so ridiculous, nor even how much I made. Not even the women I was with for a few months, not a single one ever asked. All the women I dated for some time shared expenses even though they knew I made considerably more than them. All they knew was that I was in engineering, so I wasn't poor. There will be plenty of claims in the comments that they were asked and I'm calling it right now: Bullshit in most cases. Side note - I'll say it again. Boys, never ask a body count. In my 40s, I've never once asked a woman and I've never had one ask me (and I'm thankful they haven't asked). Grow the fuck up. One issue though is that what the video said doesn't jive. Her wanting a rich man is NOT the same as a successful woman wanting an equally successful man.
Great comment, thanks for sharing this!
Women really don’t care how much money you make as much as people think. How smart and responsible are you with the money you make and are you not a loser? That’s pretty much all you need be concerned about with most women and men’s money if you exclude the obvious gold diggers.
@@porterdavis1612 Nice to see a rational person here. A rarity for this comments section.
And yet as more and more women graduate with advanced degrees, increasingly paid the same as men and entering high paying fields wouldn't it be grown up for women to date and marry men making less money than them? Wouldn't that be real equality and egalitarian? I reject your notion that it is immature for a man and woman to know a potential partner's morals and values. Like most areas of life, past performance is a strong indicator of future behavior. This absurd notion that human intimacy is no different than animal sex with multiple sexual partners defies the growing evidence of increased rates of STD infections & drug resistant STDs (no matter how early and often contraceptive & sex ed is taught), sexual dysfunction, sterility and false paternity claims. Asking about a woman's body count is no different than a woman asking a potential partner if they view porn, have a porn addiction and/ or untreatable STD. These practices are consistently proven detriments to long term relationships and sexual intimacy. Self-control, discipline and delayed gratification are key characteristics of adulthood and reliable track record of making wise choices in the "heat of the moment".
I always find this interesting because I don't know ANY women who act like this. What I do notice is guys who will try to use their wallets to impress which naturally IS going to attract the wrong types & drive off the women who see that shallow nonsense as a red flag.
Men liken dating to fishing yet forget the number 1 most basic rule: the type of bait you choose & where you cast determines what you catch. Fish with your wallet, you'll catch GDs. Fish with your d*ck, you'll catch h*es. Prize fish aren't found in shallow mudpuddles either.
Most don’t come right out and ask to see your bank account but they ask probing questions for the purpose of ascertaining your income level / lifestyle. Most dates feel like a job interview
She does have every right to want to date a wealthy guy, she’s beautiful and probably can demand that. But wealthy guys, if that’s really what you want… 🤷 😂
For sure! Everyone can have their preferences, whether it actually leads to anything fulfilling is a different story lol
Probably not for the long term, don't people fall in love these days? Oh, I'm not rich by the way.
@@CourtneyRyanPreference or standard, choose your words better in the context in which we live.
Yep, she's totally in her rights to do that. She too can experience the joy of being cheated on and being "traded in for a newer Model" when things start getting saggy. The rest of us will choose love and know the joy of holding our saggy best friends in our arms for the rest of our lives.
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This.
It’s one thing to ask questions about what someone does for work, their aspirations or goals for their future, what they like to do for fun etc but when you ask someone for what’s in their bank account it just makes you seem like someone who allows themselves to care about others once you know the number that you think defines them. You can have a job and think that you’re on a level that others have to be on as well but if your mentality is like that then yeah you might want to get that pen and paper out because you’re gonna wanna add a + symbol to the last 3.
The delusional dating standards will continue forever, because women don't think logically. All you need to know is "The Husband Store." There's a reason it says the women can't go back down a floor. Once a woman has been flown out, or spent time on a yacht, or in a $500 sports car, or in a mansion, they are wrecked. Their minds are wrecked. They will forever want that. It's the Disney Princess life they want, and once they get a taste, their minds are wrecked. They may think they can be realistic after that, but they are not, and we see it every day. Oh sure, they may realize they won't get the Yacht, Mansion and $500k+ sports car, but it has set the bar way too high. When they come back off that, it's still too high. Most men will never own anything close to those, and there will always be a part of her that wants it, and resents him for not providing it.
This is what hookup culture has done. Women are wrecked. Most men would rather live through the hardships of the 1800s, and have a real woman by their side, than deal with what is available to them today.
The irony is guys are actively chasing these kinds of chicks & ignoring the rest. If a dude is chasing strange in the club or bar, he won't find the woman at home cooking a full course meal from scratch. If he's scrolling Instagram, focused on the filtered & photoshopped thirst traps, he's not going to find the modest women. If he's too stuck on the beliefs that "all women are only good for pump-n-dumps" that dictates that he'll only treat every woman as a hole & won't have a chance to even notice genuine character. A lot of ppl sabotage themselves by focusing on all the wrong things. By giving all their attention to the fakers & attention-seekers they claim to not want, it only guarantees they'll never find what's real.
@@justacoginthefkery The problem for most men today, is that the "modest" women mostly don't exist, and often, simply aren't very good looking at all, and like it or not, looks do matter. It's hard to get excited about a woman who doesn't excite you.
Thankfully, we have a world where women may not need men, but men don't need women either. Washing machines, restaurants on every corner, etc. Men can take care of themselves. So just as women are free to pursue the men they want, the same is true for men. Nobody has to "settle."
But, the downside is that most people will be alone in their old age.
@@justacoginthefkery Also, women moving into the workforce, reduced a man's ability to provide, as the median income is now based on 2 incomes, not just one. So having a trad-wife is more of a pipe dream for most men. Most can't afford it. Those that can, have so much sexual access, they don't actually want to get married anymore.
@@leroyrussell8766 nah, corporate greed, inflation & goofy spending habits created the 2 income requirements. When I was a stay-at-home mom, my ex made under 40k, no financial assistance, most bills were paid up 3-6 mo in advance (I handled the budget & always round up so it stacks), kept 2 mo of food on hand, still had simple pleasures & managed to buy a modest house. That was less than 6 yrs ago. So I know it can be done.
On attraction, sure, it helps, but a lot of ppl don't know what's real anymore. I've spoken to guys who truly believe that women should be without facial pores (we'd die) or the waist as small as your head is somehow normal. They can't fathom that what they see on Instagram or OF is all filters & photoshopped fakery & then base their "standards of attraction" on something that doesn't exist.
"Those types of women don't exist"... They do, they're just not grabbing oodles of certain types of attention. In my own case, a lot of guys I've spoken to have expressed shock when they find out I was single & celibate for 5 yrs. Why? Because the internet has told them "all women have a 5 guy rotation at all times, hoards of guys in their dms, blah blah blah." So you know what happens? Nothing. I don't have insta, no TikTok, no Snapchat & don't bother with selfies on fb = no dms, no validation. Tried online dating once this yr for 2 months & hated the process. Since everyone apparently assumes I get compliments & asked out all the time, no one bothers. "Oh, I thought you heard it all the time so I figured you'd get annoyed." Nope. I get plenty of stares, men are pretty respectful, chivalrous & friendly, so I must not be completely hidious. But no one expresses interest because as I find out later, they all apparently assume my reality for me & then operate from a place of "why bother?"
You could pull the "you could approach card", but I have. I like the shy nerdy types myself so it's pretty much necessary with them. Since it's so outside of the norm though, men immediately question it. "Why is SHE talking to me when she should already have her pick? She must be desperate, easy or broken if she's single." A man's assumptions then dictate his actions. I know this happens because I have had men reach out to apologize after some reflection & admit for that mindset of assumptions leading to them screwing up their own chances & pushing me away. Why? Because they've been fed so many lines about "all women are" & "all women want".
In the UK, banks do not divulge customers bank details, except to law enforcement under very special circumstances, so why does a potential partner expect a man to give out those details to her when they've only just met. I don't believe this is the norm, even in the USA.
I like what you said about intentions. Intensions are so highly thought of over actions that many people ignore whatever results comes after. If a person ends up with a bad result, it says a lot about their character when they brush it off, don't try to fix the issues they caused, and say that they intended good.
I love what Courtney does and I really hope her videos help young guys out there who struggle with the complexities of modern dating. Courtney always tells is like it is and gives quality advice. She’s very genuine if only we had more girls like that in society. One problem amongst many is how easily girls are influenced by nature women are followers so it’s easy for them to get misled.
As messed up as that is , the one positive to come out of it is she's played the money card right away ,and if that's not OK with you , you know right away to move on . No wasted time money or false hope . If all a woman cares about is $ leave a vapor trail .
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Gentleman and Ms. Ryan this is why i don't place any effort and use it towards my goals... When that time comes i'm on that plane going where i will be appreciated... More power to anyone that believes there's still a chance but my chances had worn out it's welcome...
No woman has ever asked me how much I earn or how much I have in my bank account, but if one asks me, I immediately say goodbye saying that it has been a displeasure to meet her.
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It has happened to me many times 😢
When I was in my 20's, I refused relationships because I thought it would be irresponsible due to not having a high-paying job. Now, many years later, I'm financially in a good position... but I now refuse relationships because I am unable to find morally upright, good women. Unfortunate that I probably would have had a better chance for a good relationship 10 years ago with little financial security, than today with culture the way it has become.
I would never share my financial information with anybody I just met. On a first date, that's not just a red flag; that's a black flag. I would be fine getting up and leaving in that moment.
Also, love the dress.
NEVER!
I'm 47, this isn't just in the younger range. It has leaked into women my age. Time to be a monk.
i genuinely appreciate the TikTok girl's honesty. I believe that part of what makes dating so exhausting is navigating and sorting through the lies. When you provide your expectations up front, it saves a lot of headache and mature people can usually come out of it unoffended. Unfortunately for her, its unlikely that she'll find what she's looking for because her priorities will not match with many. When it comes to "bad" people, they can either lie and get what they can, or tell the truth and likely not get anything at all.
Like the summer vibe today with the cute dress! I have met a few women like this and it is a flag to me that the goal is more shallow and transactional. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, she is looking for compatibility up front and is not experienced or patient enough to figure it out with shared experiences and observation. Dating alot can make a person jaded too.
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If someone ask you about your bank account, you leave, period! Concerning the questions men ask weight is not the same with bank account. As for how common this is, I am from Europe, and from personal experience Russian, Ukrainian ( extremely beautiful ) and generally exUSSR are asking about it in first or second date, and those who doesn't ask they measure, watches clothes etc. Lastly financially stable and wealthy are not the same.
Absolutely no! I would walk. My time would be the one wasted.
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Some people are so poor that money is all they have or want to have...
I like clarity and I value time. So I am glad she got down to business.
As someone who’s been considered successful for my age, I’ve had difficulty dating because I chose bad men, men who were insecure. However I’ve learned my lesson. But I do not think that anyone is entitled to expensive things from someone because not everyone can afford expensive things! love shouldn’t even be about money. It’s sad it’s come to this. There is a real entitlement issue among people these days.
the men were "insecure"? hahahahhaahahha stop it. what lesson have you learned?
Nobody in their right mind would reveal that. Even if I was drunk & wasted I wouldn't 😂 where do these specimens even come from ?
Absolutely outstanding message, I love it!!!
I'm all about more freedom for women but god, clips like this makes me want to go back to the olden days in which women had less career opportunities so they stop saying "get on my level." The level of arrogance.
I encourage women to ask such direct but outlandish questions. It shows me who they are and makes it very easy for me to pass on them.
It happened once and I said "bye!"
Glad she is up front about her intentions......I would pay the tab and leave then and there
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Asking about such details is sick!
I know a girl in TX who married a wealthy guy at 30 to advance her music career, it lasted 10 yrs. they divorced, she is now married to a doctor age 58 and she is still chasing a music career! I don't think she ever worked a real job in her entire life!
And by "on the same level" I mean way above my level.
Something similar happened to my co-worker. His date asked him how much money he made within 15 minutes of the date. It kind of shocked him since he is recently divorced from a 15 marriage.
Asking for banking info and income are vastly different.
@@MikeyP109 Thay's true, but they both can be perceived as "gold digging" indicators