Valis and the Sega Genesis - Retro-bit Reissue Special
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- To coincide with the recent announcement of the Valis Collection from Retro-bit, we look at the trilogy on the Sega Genesis.
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3. There were also PC Engine versions of the Valis series.
Valis 3 was my special game growing up. A game only I had, and nobody else.
I think we had rented this oddity from Blockbuster . I was astounded by the anime art in this. I was like , how is this possible !?
Interesting note about Syd of Valis.
The original release in Japan was "Valis SD," with "SD" standing for "Super Deformed." The term wasn't widely recognized outside of Japan, and when the localization team saw it, they had no idea about the term, and thought that it was an incomplete name, and adapted it as Syd of Valis
I wondered about that. Thanks!
This series really deserved an anime adaptation. Very underrated.
The PC Engine CD version basically is an anime that you play levels in between. Definitely worth checking out.
@@voodooturbo Definitely.
@ChronoArcaile2019 I see.
It did, but…hentai
@@Kingjames313I bought the entire set of Hentai figurines long before I got III.
Anime nerd trivia: it's hard to pin down true firsts, but Valis was among the very first products to star a *fighting* teenage magical girl. Prior to the mid-80s, anime magic girls were pretty peaceful. So it's one of the direct precursors of Sailor Moon.
Also, can vouch: Valis 3 is a very credible Castlevania 3 knockoff, and worth playing if you like C3.
I never heard of Valis until like 2 years ago, now I see it around all over.
Better late than never! I grew up with Valis, first on the TurboGrafx CD, then the Genesis and SNES releases.
I was in love with the series from the moment I heard the music and opening cinema of Valis II.
Valis is a series that deserves to be preserved and remembered.
If anybody has any interest in the Genesis Valis games, highly recommend checking out the reissues of the PC Engine versions on Switch that are out (1, 2 and 3 are currently out now, 4 is coming a little later along with ports of the Genesis version of 1 and Syd), the music improvement alone is worth it. Even then, the Genesis games are still fantastic side scrollers and definitely worth owning...if I didn't already have 1, Syd, and III CIB, I'd be all over this RetroBit reissue.
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This game (Valis 3) came along for the Genesis right in the middle of my anime craving. At that point I had buying import subs at the local comic book shop, I had Bubblegum Crisis/Crash, Vampire Princess Miyu, Vampire Hunter D, as well as Fist of the North Star and Kimagure Orange Road.
Valis was right up my alley.
The artwork drew me in, and I got a pretty good game out of it.
Valis 3 opened me up to Anime. It and "Robot Carnival" really got me into it with me buying Bubblegum Crisis, Dirty Pair (because one of the main characters looks similar to Yuko), Urusei Yatsura and recorded Vampire Hunter D off then "SciFi" SyFy channel.
I'm a HUGE Valis fan (hence my screen name), and I love 'SYD of Valis'. I have all of the Genesis, Turbo Grafx, PCEngine, Famicom and SNES releases, and 'SYD of Valis' It's easily my most played of the series.
I would have appreciated a proper Valis II for Genesis as well, of course, but I was more than satisfied with SYD and still play through it almost everytime I break out the Genesis.
I definitely plan of getting this collection.
I also appreciate a copy of Valis SYD with genuine coverart, rather than the reused coverart for 'Naritore the Sugoroku '92' for the PC Engine.
Anime cartoons and movies never really grabbed me, but anime-inspired games like this and Target Earth were larger than life as a little kid. Maybe they were simple stories in a filesize smaller than a modern Word document, but I was totally invested in Yuko's fate to bring peace to Earth, the Dark World and the Dream World. Although the best ways to play the series is on PC Engine (though Valis 3 Genesis plays slightly better than the PCE counterpart with more content)
I love the music on valis stage 1. It's a series worth pulling my Genesis out of the closet to replay the series
Genesis should never be in the closet. Genesis should be hooked up to your primary tv with latest retrotink, for life!
So nostalgic for Valis III. The music is among the best on the Genesis. Renovation's games always had an appeal to me, and their music is always popping off. Maybe eventually they will do El Viento, Ernest Evans, and Annet Again
Nice editing. I felt like I was watching Samurai Jack with all those split screens!
I can't take credit. I lifted them from the Retro-bit media kit.
Awesome review 😎🍺🕹 I’ve been a valis fan since I was a kid. I’ve always liked the anime styled visuals, the phenomenal soundtrack, and it’s castlevania like gameplay. I’ve bought physical copies of valis 1 and 3 on sega genesis and I’ve recently downloaded the valis collection on my Nintendo Switch. I definitely recommend this underrated game series.
Valis III the Genesis version was the game that got me into the series when I was 9 when I played it at my cousins house. I did get my own copy a couple years later which I still have to this day. I’ll get the Trilogy pack for this reissue.
The background music of valis is friendly.
Can't remember which one I played first but it was either Valis IV on PC Engine or Super Valis IV on SNES. Never played the Genesis ones before. That being said I already placed my pre-orders for the Valis Collections from LRG but seeing the comments on how III wasn't included I'll get that for my trusty Genesis for sure. Great vid, legendary series for sure, I remember how "Japanese" it was back then, haha, I love it.
I really like the editing of this video, thank you, SLX!
Very cool. And no I absolutely have not ever heard of these titles thanks again for shining a light SLX!
Do you live under a rock somewhere? Surely you must have heard at least about the Valis Collection Remastered for Nintendo Switch from LRG
Shining in the Darkness.
@@griffgames9538My man! Shining In the Darkness arguably my favorite Genesis game
@@The_Badcompany 'tis a joyous game.
Maybe it’s because I’m old but Valis 3 seemed moderately popular bitd in school. At least, with the kids not always riding the hype train. I wasn’t too keen on it back then but I remember a few kids being all about it.
Valis II was completely forgotten in this collection.
Syd of Valis is an SD (Super Deformed) version of Valis II.
The real Valis II only came out on PC-88, MSX2, Turbo Grafx-16 CD
@@kubev What I really meant to mention was the real Valis II.
I loved the Valis series when i was a kid. I already own this on my sega genesis in mint condition but i usually play this on my 3ds sega emulators. The pc engine cd version of Valis 3 was awesome with the voice acting and better visuals and music.
It was Project A-Ko meets Ninja Gaiden basically. And it was released during a time America seemed to hate anime in games.
Valis games are awesome.
MEMORIES!!!!! and thanks for bring this to light. It's definitely a purchase.
Never played those games but I often saw a "Valis" game in a magazine. I think I'll try that first game just for the music, sounds great!
The 'localizers' just didn't know the series, didn't care or didn't have creativity enough, as the Japanese release is called SD Valis, where SD stands for Super Deformed (big headed characters usually aimed at children), they just named it Syd of Valis...In any case, the choice of developers was bad here, and they really shouldn't have made a version like this, unless it was a special unlockable, while the main entry should have been a port from the real Sharp X68000 version, which is way more interesting than this waste. The original Valis II is a proper sequel and looks great, this is sad, in a time when games required to be printed and manufactured, shipped and put into retailers to sell them, this game has no reason to exist.
I don't get why they chose Syd of Valis instead of the actual Valis 2. Makes no sense.
This is why you should be wary of localizers
Welcome to localization from the 80’s and 90’s LOL.
@@Gatorade69 maybe to appeal to a younger audience
Crazy timing, I just stumbled on IV for the snes yesterday and based solely on the cover art I decided to give it a go. I only played it for 5 min but i liked what i played. I’m definitely going to have to try these other ones too.
IV on the SNES was really cut down from the PC Engine CD/ TG-16 CD version. Look that one up sometime its all that and more.
@@jdubbs8242 Will do, thanks!
When people talk about 90s anime aesthetic, this is what it's all about.
i loved the valis games when they were new, they came out right when the sailor moon show was on my radar and hit me in just the right way for that
Exactly the info I wanted! i saw the LRG release and was wondering if these were games I would want to add to my collection. You've helped me make a decision.
yeah Valis was pretty much castlevania with a sailer scout theme. I fuckin loved this series, three was my favorite on the genesis...I do prefer the TurboGrafx16CD versions though.
I love Valis III, it's the only one or these games I have on my Megadrive still.
And Grames has been my phone's ringtone for so many years now
I personally think the PC Engine Duo or Turbografx DUO games are much better than the Genesis ones. I also think the Switch remasters Valis Collection 1&2 are better than the new Genesis carts too, even if Valis III isn't included.
Yoooou do know the Turbo Duo is hella stronger than the Genesis, right? That's not a fair comparison.
@@curtiswilson4737 Of course I know that, that's why I said it's better. It doesn't matter if it's Hella more powerful, just I like it better.
You may want to look into PC Engine Works if you're interested in a Valis PC Engine rerelease.
@@jonathanlisowski5618 Yeah. I follow PCE Works, I prefer the original releases but I love PCE Works for some of the translations
There are some minor details where Turbo/PC Engine shows its limitations compared to Genesis. In Valis 3 PCE your homing magic can disappear when you jump off-screen (happens most commonly with Yuko's fire daggers) while it doesn't happen on Genesis, I assume it's a memory problem. But the PCE series has all of the story and content
The ceiling spikes in stage 2 don’t inflict damage, so double jumps are perfectly fine
Valis still kick ass today. 😀👍🎮
A shame Valis III for the Genesis wasn't included in the Valis Collection Vol 2 for the Switch :(
I played the first Valis for the Genesis and I am shocked to see how different it is from the PC-CD version. Levels and bosses were completely different. Not as hard, but still quite fun to play.
The ip owner did that on purpose so they can sell the rest games in different volumes, a shame indeed
Yeah, it feels like they're milking those Valis Collection packs, especially after they held Valis IV back from the first pack. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Vol 3 with some/all of the other versions which should have already been released.
Valis 3 was the first release of the series on Genesis, and it seems like they removed the Rogles rematch in case Sega players didn't understand it? But then they completed the trilogy anyway on Genesis with Valis 1 and "Syd" of Valis
@@jasonblalock4429 the thing is, what things could they add in a hypothetical Valis Collection 3? Other than Valis 3 GEN, Super Valis 4 and... uh... Valis X? Lmao
@@TheTrueBro The original PC-88 games would be obvious. They're nearly unplayable by modern standards, but it would be worth archiving them. Although they'd really be better as extras rather than a centerpiece.
I have insane nostalgia for syd of valis, I completely forgot about it until this video, and had waves of waves of nostalgia when I heard the second stages music! I was like OMG I played this game so much! But literally haven’t thought about it in over twenty years! Thank you for this video.
I remember being floored by the cut scenes thinking how cool TRANSFORMERS would look in this style, we were starving for Anime back in the days.
Very cool that you made a Valis video. The music from the 1st game is incredible, "The Wilderness" being my favorite. And the fight with Reiko. Touching stuff.
Still have my Genesis Syd of Valis box and game cartridge too.
I’m so happy a new video already😊
Hope you enjoyed it.
Thanks so much for going in depth on this series! I saw Valis on the Nintendo Switch's eshop, and wanted to learn more. I'll definitely pick this up for my Switch and when I get a Genesis!
I have fond memories of Valis 1 and I probably like it more than most because I have a nostalgic attachment to it. There used to be a video game rental store down the road and I recall renting this one a couple times because the level of challenge kept me coming back. I agree with everything you said about the gameplay. It is slow but pretty fair and in retrospect it does remind me a lot of the classic Castlevania games where you have to approach the levels methodically. The anime story scenes were unusual back then and made it stand out a little bit from other games.
I believe this is based on a popular manga/anime series in Japan in the 90s. I'm not super familiar with the story but I get the vibe that it was kind of like a darker, more tragic Sailor Moon?
also worth noting that the PC Engine versions of the 1st 3 Valis games are available on the Switch, with IV and the Genesis versions of 1 and Syd coming soon
I had the original Valis on Sega, but never knew there were sequels
For folks who want to it legitimate physical copies but the game, but find the $50/game price out of their budget… get the Renovation Collection for Evercade. Includes Valis 1&3, and 10 other mostly really good games. SLX - if you are hurting for topics, how about a review of all Renovations games for Genesis?
Imagine naming your son Valis
私はPC時代からヴァリスは遊んでました。
1:30 goddayum that theme is slammin’
Actually all the tunes in this are VERY very good, geez!
The music in the series is awesome, great compositions regardless of FM synth (Genesis versions) or CD audio (PC Engine versions), or even Super Valis for SNES
@@gc3k that’s badass. the sign of truly well composed themes, I reckon. Good kinda regardless of the medium they’re rendered on.
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i remember playing the one where u start the game in ur pajamas or something, so i think i played the 3rd one but i do not remember enjoying it or finishing it because it felt too slow and i got it very late and didn't look up to par....now i regret it, since the game now looks amazing to the older me.
Good games, at a really fair price and with astonish presentation.
$50 for old ass game? You crazy
If people will pay...
My only issue is usually with reproduction carts there's issues when it comes to the quality of what the chipsets have and unfortunately I've heard of some terror stories when it comes to that putting in an actual Genesis.
I guess we shall see I'm just glad that hey things like this get re-released but I think I'll just stick with my radiant silver gun on switch. Lord knows it was a terrible loss when I lost that game on the original Saturn format with a house fire..
Yeah but y'all spend $50 on Nintendo 64 and GameCube ports on Switch 😂
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I watch your chillaxin Sega flavored vids every day. It's one thing to show games but to preview and give history and then time stamping with your own personal experiences makes this internet Gold. Your in my top 10 go to channels every day of my life. Being 47 I know exactly what your talking about that most younger peeps could never understand.
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Ahhhhh Valis. Reliving my child hood now. Popful Mail, fantasy zone...life before bills!! Lol
Pretty tempting collection, even though I normally don't get these kind of things. I grabbed retro bit's Mega Man the Wily Wars this past weekend at the Portland Retro Game Expo and I am very impressed with their attention to detail.
I got Valis 3 for free from a game store about 20 years ago. It didn't have a price tag, and it wasn't in the store's inventory, so the store owner just let me have it!
Been enjoying the 1st and 3rd games on the Evercade Renovation Collection.
Thanks for showing these SLX. I wasn't familiar with these games so had overlooked them on LRG. They look like something I'd enjoy.
i had opted for the renovation compilation on evercade (with added delicacies likes el viento, exile or granada) instead of the switch collection, but this..... this might do the trick.
also, just for trivia, super valis on snes is called "super valis 4" in the west, but it is not a port of the pce-cd game at all, it's a spinoff taking place directly after the event of valis 4 (featuring a new weilder of the sword). you could almost call it "valis 5", instead.
Not gonna lie. I'd love to see more of this verse.
Syd of Vallis though? Dear GOD is there no way to fix the floaty jump? It genuinely feels like it was made knowing it'd be a rental.
I mostly prefer the PCE versions, though it's worth playing them all to compare the differences. Also - sorry to bring this up - this video feels like it blurs the line between sponsored and not sponsored.
I played Valis,and it’s a really fun games I’ve played in their collection. Now that the second of the Valis collection has arrived. I’d definitely gonna play that one too.
7:07; that part there with the sword, and transformation, I'm feeling some She-Ra Princess of Power vibes right there.
Yeah, but weebs will swear up and down that Japan invented the idea of magical transformations.
I wish the Valis series would come back something in the style of God of War
I just enjoyed played through the first one on Genesis a week ago. Nice timing.
Played it on the PC engine and CD way back. Fun games.
I rarely go for these types of things. I have no problem with it and think it's great that classics are made available again, but I'm typically like "I'm good." with the majority of these types of things. The only exceptions I've made so far is Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic Limited Run release for Switch and the Limited Run PS4 Castlevania Rondo/Symphony double pack. And even those two were the basic, vanilla versions. That being said I am extremely tempted to get the all-in-one version of this.
I ordered the first Valis Collection for Switch from Limited Run, which contains the PC Engine trilogy. They just closed preorders for the second collection, which includes these three Mega Drive games plus the PC Engine Valis IV. I didn't bite on that one, because I was wary of jumping in for a second version of these games before they'd even shipped the first. But it's interesting to see them available here for original hardware. The spine logo for the set is class. I loved Super Valis IV back in the day, and rebought it for Super Famicom a year or so back. Unfortunately, it didn't live up to my golden memories. I've heard it's better than the PC Engine version though.
Scurrying Away In Disgust? Lmiao!! Very funny way of putting it. 💜
This game looks interesting, i have never played it before.
I might give it a chance.
Great content as always Sega Lord X, and another game you have brout to my attention.
Helluva commercial, SLX...helluva commercial...
Just gotta find a way for Retro-bit to pay me for it.
Man, if ever there was a game series deserving of better games, then I'd say it's the Valis series.
The first Valis game is pretty lousy compared to the "first" Valis game on PC Engine, as the PC Engine installment of the "original" was made after most of the other games in the series, and Renovation had finally managed to put out a pretty polished product. The Genesis version is just so slow, and it does that thing where you lose your good weapons if you die, which can royally screw you over late in the game to the point it's nearly impossible to finish.
Syd of Valis is perhaps the biggest bummer in the series. Certain versions of Valis II for Japanese computers had the costume system that appears in Syd of Valis, but they played far more choppily. Syd of Valis really doesn't play much better, but it's at least reasonable smooth. The problem is that Valis II on PC Engine is far superior, even if it's completely boring and uninteresting as a result of it for some reason lacking the costume system.
Valis III on Genesis is definitely one of the better installments of the series, but it's nowhere near as good as the PC Engine version of the first game. It still has some of the problems this series seemed to have a lot of trouble shaking, such as the overly high jumps that can barely get you over many jumps, with you instead having to slide over larger gaps (as if that makes any sense).
I'm really pleased that the Valis games are getting various re-releases, but this series is more than deserving of some remakes. The music is these games is some of the best on Genesis, in my opinion, and the story was pretty interesting and mature for when these games were originally released.
Valis 3 is a dream of a game.
Reminds me of the devil hunter yohko anime and game
Wonder if this came about because the valis collection on Nintendo switch, also they just released valis second collection on switch as well
I still play Valis 1 on a multi game cart I have, great games.
Awesome video! And I have never heard of these games before, although I am familiar with a few of Renovations releases on the Sega Mega Drive.
Hope you enjoy it!
Valis looks awesome.
Would loved to have played it if I only I had a SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive.
Should have been on the Ultimate Genesis Collection.
It’s cool that rare games are getting reissues but these prices are absurd.
Can never get over how they did Valis wrong with the "modernized" version X.
Good to know about Valis 1 and 3 - they seem right up my alley.
LordX, if you wanna explore other systems, like the PCengine or the SNES to show their entries of Valis 4, I'd be totally down for that. In fact, feel free to expand to any system you want and I'll watch it :)
Wow! Its been a while since I heard about this game. Good to see its being re-released again. Nice documentary about Valis Sega Lord X👍😃
Those prices though.😂
Wow, so so classic Genesis
I ordered the set already from Castlemania. I love this series. My favorite of all of the games is SUper Valis IV for Super NES. I am not really into "SYD," but I'l give her a try.
I was born in the late '70s I remember these as new games. There are a lot of games that should have made the Genesis that never did. Bad Dudes, Ninja Gaiden Arcade, TMNT, Rastan, Astyanax. I was a super Nintendo guy though.
I loved these games as a kid. I had Valis 3 and Syd of Valis but never played the first one. Wasn't there some Turbographix CD versions as well?
Switch has a couple collections but I wish they were better, the series is a little complicated with its releases. The main games are very different on the platforms they were released on and well, stuff like Konami's recent collections do a good job having multiple versions of games together for people to try and play today.
Interesting. Never had a chance to play this games in Europe. Mega Drive lives on!
Japanese developers had the Mega Drive sound chip dialed-in much earlier than Western Genesis devs, because so many Japanese developers were active for mid-late 1980s arcade games
-- arcade games that featured a similar Yamaha FM synth + sample channel chipset in their hardware config. It was ubiquitous.
So the whole community shared drivers, evolved the quality.
You had these first and second gen Mega Drive games that had some killer music, as most Western devs produced substandard tunes on piss poor sound drivers (with a couple exceptions - notably some UK devs).
That's because Sega made sure their Japanese developers had everything they needed. As far back as the Genesis, Western devs were made to figure it all out for themselves. This would continue with the Saturn dev kit fiasco.
It helps that the YM chip was extremely similar to the YM chip found in various Japanese PCs of the time since the MD Yamaha chip was basically a cheaper and cut down version of the YM Chip found in some MSX/PC88-98/Sharp systems too, not just arcade hardware.
@@kwizzeh Yep, that too - the microcomputers had 'em.
I'd be more than happy to buy the rereleases if i didnt already own all of the genesis/turbografx versions. Great series horribly underrated. Also thank you for not mentioning the sacrilege that is Valis X. While im not a fan of censorship that game should be stricken from existence.
This video sounds really quiet compared to your past videos, had to max out the volume on my headphones.
4:54 this is what happen when Pokemon breeding goes unchecked.
Valis 1 reminds me a lot of the Gameboy and Gameboy Color Turok games (I've never played Valis, so, this is what I'm reminded of) which isn't a bad thing. Those are nifty little side scrolling platforming run'n'gun games.
The Valis series is soo much fun!
I'm thrilled that this franchise is getting a reissue, but beyond-annoyed at the money-grubbery of releasing it on 3 different cartridges for 3/4 the price of a Nintendo Switch rather than on a single cart as a collection for a more reasonable $40 or $50. These guys know they have gamers who don't want to feel like they're emulating by the nards, and they sure aren't afraid to twist for more money.
Already own the Genesis trilogy, and the Japanese Super Famicom game, so I'm set on the series.
The SFC game has a banger soundtrack.
the problem I had with SYD was it looked like a 8 bit game with 26 bit graphics, it felt like a TG-16 game.
I'm not sure if I played any Valis games as a kid while my brother had a genesis, they look decent
we pre-oredered SyD of Valis from LR.
I like the Chibi style its Cute~
Everytime I saw valis i thought it was like a sailor moon girl. Obviously, I'm wrong but i just thought that.
In a lot of ways, you're really not that far off in that comparison. Valis definitely has all of the classic magical girl tropes that were popular in anime and manga like Sailor Moon, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc.
Colored hair and a japanese anime school girl outfit. No shame to make that comparison.