RAAF to get more MQ-28 Ghost Bat aircraft
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- In an announcement made at the Australian Defence Force HQ at Russell Offices in Canberra, the next stage of autonomous aircraft for the Royal Australian Air Force has been funded.
The Australian Government has invested more money into the MQ-28A Ghost Bat aircraft program. The MQ-28 previously known as the Loyal Wingman is designed to be a force multiplier and is the first combat designed aircraft indigenous to Australia which has been built in the country in over 50 years.
#ausairforce #aviation #australia
We should have called it the Autonomous Combat Drone Cloud ..... AC DC. We could paint them all " Back in Black "
The enemy would be thunderstruck and shook all night long, and find themselves on the highway to hell.
And then would try to make a jailbreak for their dirty deeds. They thought they had big balls, with their clever heatseeker, but hells's bells, they were shot down in flames.
I prefer Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.🤣🤣🤣🤩🤩🤩😋😋😋
the Wings of Wuhan,
QANTAS Quail,
Captain Boomerang,
and my personal fav:
the Stingray that did it 😂
Not quite an Aussie band but I would have also liked it if they called it "Bat Outta Hell"
Block 2 is a huge step! We are at the tip of the spear with this project & I'm proud af.
Fleets of unmanned aircraft and undersea drones make more sense for Australia than two or three nuclear submarines. We need to cover our entire airspace, coastline, and offshore territory to detect illegal activities like fishing and drug smuggling, as well as potential military incursions.
@@elrey8876 It's a huge mistake to use military assets for policing. Also, we're getting a 3x3 SSNs, not 3.
@elrey8876 That said, we're going nuts with our drone purchases. Like this weeks announcement we are buying 1k odd bombing quad copters. Every service is already buying big on every kind of drone too. So 🇦🇺 defence definitely has the memo on drone effectiveness.
Proud of begging for the technology from the US, like the case with the submarines.
@justsain3236 Aww, poor little edgelord. Have a little cry & move on buddy.
Stunning looking drone.. its well ahead of any other in development at the moment.
Streaks ahead actually. In number made and flying, development progress, capabilities both current and predicted, the list goes on. I believe there's one or two of them in the US right now being tested by the USAF that have been there for quite some weeks, maybe months now.
@@smeary10 i feel like if any other AI drone gets picked over this one as the NGAD wingman it will be due to a dodgy handshake deal. (US Political corruption) the AUKUS packed may allow the US to take control of all the tech and not only make them in America but change them as required. My guess is that boeing Australia is already making changes requested by the US.. "a more powerful engine" and will be able to deliver an aussie made drone that america only needs to mass produce locally and that way Australia can keep the techs future development local. :).. also beoing wants the much easier to sell military export laws that comes with Aussie made arms.
@@paxalotin Sorry but there isnt a single drone on earth thats anywhere close to the progress that this ones at.. the only one is the Turkish but thats still man operated as the AI is not even close to being ready. The AI is why this is so far ahead of all the others and the same AI is already being used in the ghost shark ( drone sub) and is planned on being used on ghost bat upgrade version 2.. new upgraded airframe will be faster and carry a weapons bay along with the ability for short takeoff and landings. ( naval carrier capable ) Ghost bat goes into active service in 2024-2025.. its ready right NOW pretty much.. its also the reason why the US is probably going to select it for its NGAD fighter as the wingman of choice due to how well its working without issues.
@@paxalotin Russia and China can't even get their so called '5th Gen' aircraft working properly. Russia has now diverted funds away from the Su-57 and toward their 6th Gen ambitions as it's an utter failure. China, seeing as they use Russian engines and avionics is experiencing similar issues. They're so far behind on this it's a joke.
Ever heard of MBDA, I actually would prefer their approach a lot better. It is something from ace combat with massive drone swarms being deployed from a airborn carrier. There have already been drop tests on those drones during 2022.
The most advanced air teaming platform in the world right now, nothing comes close to it's capabilities and future potential.
Hard to believe in backward Australia but who knows , one can but hope its true .
Says who I bet you can buy a 10,000$ or less Chinese drone that can do much more don't be an idiot
We don’t know that. Nothing but rhetoric so far. We don’t know how the AI works with the aircraft, how their controlled environment or how capable they are.
As the video says, the investment is in these capabilities, this means they don’t have them yet.
I fully support the program; but it hasn’t delivered anything yet but well articulated dreams.
@@grosvenorclubyou’re charming
Mmmm I find some of the comments here to be quite uneducated. Australia is a leader in 1st stage technology. That means that theory is proven and the design is put to paper. After that we are well behind as indicated by some. Perhaps this has changed with this development. We will have to wait and see. But hopefully not in my lifetime
They should develop a jet fighter aircraft based on the MQ 28
Best place to find any technical information about Australia’s military capability is on American sites.
Never seen such secrecy as information provided by Australia for Australians
Doubt the Americans will be more forthcoming with real tech answers given they just bought a few.
We're just sheeple, here to pay the governments bills. 🇦🇺
Absolutely mate. We don't have a Bill of Rights, so we're only as free as the current government wants. The Liberals basically killed any technical military discussion whatsoever about 10 years ago, making it illegal in very broad language. They immediately then sent 'stop it or cop it' letters to any open source military content creator in the country. For example, Air Power Australia, Dr. Karlo Kopp. We once had a world leading scientist who published his analysis of military technology, based on open source data & physics. He published his thoughts on equipment from everyone, so most of it was good, educational theoretical data about say a certain Chinese VHF radar's physics. The law was so broadly worded, & having effectively been warned he'd be charged if he persisted, he had no choice but to stop his work. The site is still up, AFAIK, but it hasn't been updated since then.
Welcome to socialism. Take good notes, since we seem to be on the same political trajectory and will need some advice. For instance, how to disarm ourselves...
@@ronjon7942 Perhaps you've confused socialism & fascism.
Very good strong defence for Australia we need One hundred new drones with Lazer guidance missiles long range hypasonic stealthy defence's
Thank heavens. Now Eastern Australia can keep an eye on Western Australia & vice versa. Not to forget that Southern Australia needs to keep an eye on Northern Australia. Incredibly… none of those four are keeping an eye on Tasmania. Those lucky devils.
Who's keeping the eye on the eye at Alice?
Yeah , can't trust those sneeky sandgropers.😂
I wonder if the RNZAF will look at this and think that 'drones' would be an appropriate way of getting back into air-combat.
Probably a good idea. They'd probably be better used for survelence than direct combat.
It would be a cheaper option than buying 5th gen manned aircraft
Awesome.. The gov finally making a smart decision.. took a while. This and AUKUS, provided we buy them first, very smart move
@@paxalotin How so?
@@paxalotin How so?
What keeps Aus safe is its stupidity.This 'Dan Dare' project for 12yr olds is certainly another deterant?
🇨🇦 ❤️ 🇦🇺.. Would be an amazing complement to our RCAF 😎
This is all so the DSO (drone systems operator) in the back can be referred to as batman
Might be a dumb question, but do we actually own any ghost bat drones or are we paying just for the developement and later on an order for a fiinished product. I presume that they are well into developement with this block 2 thing.
10 to 13 drones will go into service in 22024 to 2025.. these will be unarmed and will be used to extend missile range of F35s and Navel ships. (normal drones cant keep up with an F35) the Ghost bat airfraim upgate with a fastet engine for short takeoff and landing (navel carry capable) with a weapons bay will be mass produced in Queensland and most likely in the US and Japan.. as thats the version they both want.
@@defectiveclone8450 Who said USA and Japan will ever build the drone.
Australia is keeping it a sovereign export and technology.
RAAF commander head of the programme clearly states no other country will ever get the detachable nose technology and if buy sensors pack or want their own put in to the nose they have to get Australia to fit it keeping the secrets in Australia.
The AI is not even Boeing and belongs to another Australian company. so makes it harder still.
@@micksmith-vt5yi part of the NGAD wingman contract is for local production. The USAF have also requsted a faster engine for short take off. Boeing wants the contract...maybe with a new airframe licencing the AI tech from AUS or it may even use the AI from its US Made MQ-25 drone refuler if the Australian govenment refuse. Unlikey seeing the AUKUS pact allows for arms technology exchange. Including land and air based weapons. Japan was sited to be an option for mass production if allowed by the Australia government to supply the drone at a faster pase.
@@micksmith-vt5yi If Australia wants to expedite production of this drone it needs help. The US wants over 1000
@@defectiveclone8450 Where is this info from is what i asked. is nowhere on Australia defense website where i get my up to date info about Australia military news.
If using a different AI it is not the same drone lol.
Yes AUKUS could have opened the tech up.
But Aussies will be very annoyed if this is allowed to leave Australia to be built elsewhere as is our tech and our export for our country
The main construction facility is not far from me now for these drones. have even seen
Australia can build 1 a month now. sure more if needed to ramp up producton.
Looks great. Keeps Australia safer. Good job!
awesome... The aircraft design is very futuristic
Low radar profile.
American copy
how about a few F35B for our QUASI aircraft carriers
Thank you Australia. Great Alliance we have together militarily
Why didn't they use vectored thrust? That would up its potential against any opponent as it is not limited by flesh and blood factors.
Could possibly be because it increases its radar signature, plus I can’t imagine it’s designed for the kind of manoeuvres that thrust vectoring would allow
@@1staryelpreview915Yes, and yeah, me neither.
Thrust vectoring adds complexity, weight, cost, and reduces flying range. It's more relevant for air show displays and "dogfighting". While dogfights are still possible in theory, they are very rare and unlikely in practice. Modern fighter jets are equipped with advanced sensors, radars, and missiles that allow them to engage and destroy enemy aircraft from way beyond visual range (BVR), which means they do not need to see or get close to their targets. The MQ-28 recognizes this change in air superiority tactics and is more focused on stealth, and integration with other friendly platforms in the air.
This platform isn't concerned with getting into turn fights. It's a low profile suitcase full of extra missiles for the human operated jet.
Looks stealthy.
Can it be jammed, hijacked, and turned against those it is meant to protect???
Something jamming it would make a great target to shoot a payload at. There are comms techs that cannot be jammed, and resistant ones, though they may have some downsides with regards to bandwidth or weather (not both). You would have to be pretty incompetent to have a system that could be hijacked since it doesn't require a tiny fraction of this investment to prevent that. So slightly harder than getting a pilot to defect, since you'd probably have to get a whole team to defect. A lot of it is designed to work with existing aircraft, so no more hijackable than downing an existing manned aircraft remotely. The plus is one of these can have an active radar and send the data to a nearby manned aircraft, while the manned aircraft preserves its stealth by not having an active radar on or even being a little further away from the target. Highly directional comms are very hard to jam and much much harder to detect, espeically if they are relatively short range vs a drone being controlled from the other side of the world.
Probably yes.
@@peter65zzfdfh Speaking as a retired Electronic Engineer I can say anything can be jammed, if its receiving data links you can jam it, like wise if its sending data/video out it can be jammed... Hacking on the other hand is more a encryption problem and time sensitive. Please don't speak out your arse on subjects you clearly have no idea about.
Thats why they gave it AI to understand and follow the original command.so it can't be hacked. It's program is internal not remotely. So it be difficult to be hacked with AI
omg ......we built something
The MQ-28 Ghost Bat and Turkish TUSAŞ Anka III are two advanced unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAVs) from different countries. Both aircraft offer unique capabilities tailored to modern warfare requirements. Here is a comparative analysis of both:
MQ-28 Ghost Bat
Country of Origin: Australia
Developer: Boeing Australia
Introduction:
The MQ-28 Ghost Bat, previously known as the Loyal Wingman, is an advanced UCAV developed by Boeing Australia in collaboration with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF).
It is designed to operate alongside manned aircraft to provide additional combat capabilities and to act as a force multiplier.
Key Features:
Stealth and Versatility: The Ghost Bat incorporates stealth technology, making it harder to detect by enemy radar systems.
Autonomous Capabilities: It features advanced AI and autonomous capabilities, allowing it to perform missions with minimal human intervention.
Multi-role Capability: The aircraft can undertake a variety of missions, including surveillance, reconnaissance, and electronic warfare, as well as strike missions.
Collaborative Operations: It is designed to work in tandem with other manned and unmanned aircraft, sharing information and coordinating actions to enhance mission effectiveness.
Technical Specifications:
Range: Estimated to be around 2,000 miles.
Speed: Classified, but designed to keep pace with modern fighter jets.
Payload: Can carry various payloads depending on the mission requirements, including sensors and weapons.
TUSAŞ Anka-3
Country of Origin: Turkey
Developer: Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ)
Introduction:
The Anka-3 is part of the Anka series of UCAVs developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TUSAŞ). It is a more recent addition to the family, aimed at providing enhanced capabilities compared to its predecessors.
It focuses on providing Turkey with advanced surveillance, reconnaissance, and strike capabilities.
Key Features:
Stealth Design: Anka-3 features a stealthy design to reduce its radar cross-section and improve its survivability in contested airspaces.
AI and Autonomy: Equipped with sophisticated AI for autonomous operations, including target recognition and engagement.
Endurance: Designed for long-endurance missions, suitable for persistent surveillance and extended operational tasks.
Multi-role Missions: Capable of performing a wide range of missions, such as intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance (ISR), and air-to-ground strikes.
Technical Specifications:
Range: Exact range not publicly disclosed, but designed for extended missions.
Speed: Expected to have a moderate top speed, optimized for endurance rather than high-speed engagements.
Payload: Capable of carrying a variety of munitions, including precision-guided bombs and missiles.
Comparative Analysis
Stealth and Survivability:
Both the MQ-28 Ghost Bat and TUSAŞ Anka-3 prioritize stealth to reduce their radar signature and increase survivability in hostile environments.
Autonomous Capabilities:
Both aircraft feature advanced AI for autonomous operations, but specific capabilities may differ based on the technology and algorithms developed by their respective countries.
Multi-role Flexibility:
Both UCAVs are designed to perform a variety of missions, enhancing their flexibility and usefulness in modern combat scenarios. However, the Ghost Bat’s design focuses more on collaborative operations with manned aircraft.
Collaborative Operations:
The MQ-28 Ghost Bat is specifically designed to operate in collaboration with manned aircraft, potentially giving it an edge in integrated air operations. The Anka-3, while advanced, is more focused on standalone operations and ISR roles.
Operational Range and Endurance:
While specific details on range and endurance are classified or not fully disclosed, both UCAVs are expected to offer competitive operational capabilities suitable for extended missions.
Payload and Mission Types:
Both the Ghost Bat and Anka-3 can carry a variety of payloads for different mission types. The Ghost Bat’s payloads are likely more versatile for electronic warfare and collaborative combat roles, while Anka-3’s payloads are optimized for ISR and precision strikes.
Conclusion
The MQ-28 Ghost Bat and TUSAŞ Anka-3 represent significant advancements in unmanned combat aerial technology from Australia and Turkey, respectively. Both UCAVs offer stealth, autonomy, and multi-role capabilities, making them valuable assets for their respective air forces. The MQ-28 Ghost Bat excels in collaborative operations with manned aircraft, acting as a force multiplier, while the TUSAŞ Anka-3 focuses on long-endurance missions and ISR roles. The choice between the two would depend on specific operational requirements, integration capabilities with existing forces, and strategic objectives of the user nation.
so what happens if it gets jammed ?
I figure you can use nearby drones or other aircraft to piggyback signals.
The command and control center can broadcast a stronger signal and bounce it off other drones to cut through jamming.
That or bring the command center closer.
Another thing that can be done is for the drones to have an AI that lets it complete mission parameters even without a consistent connection to the network.
15year avionics technician here.
There are very simple ways to avoid jamming satellite signals with directional antenna. Likewise, to even attempt to jam it, you have to aim a directional antenna at it and radiate. Congratulations, you just ordered a HARM via express delivery.
Very hard since it is a closed off system. they input it's mission into it before take off and the drone carries it out fully autonomous. has no joysticks so like to see someone try fly it.
Yes can shut it down. but would need to know systems really well to try controlling it.
wonder how it will withstand modern electronic warfare unless it can operate without wireless connection
That would be one of the many rationale for autonomous AI.
You have to see it to jam it.
If you jam it, you are asking for a HARM on your forehead
the AI is a closed off system they input it's mission data in to it before takeoff then the AI autonomously carries the mission out all on it's own from engine start up to landing and turning back off
The AI checks it's mission parameters every hundredths of a second to make sure it is doing it correctly. only humans needed are called custodians to watch that it does it properly.
Why is named most advanced ai combat drone in the world.
Yes probably could be jammed or shit down but is not as easy as the normal drones you see.
@@micksmith-vt5yiit can be remotely programmed in flight also. But the AI understands the original command so it be impossible to hack
@@Nathan-ry3yu Yea i do not understand hacking and doubt it is easy.
Australia is pretty good at cybersecurity and remember start of Ukraine war China and Russia hacked Ukraines electricity grids. Australia sent cybersecurity experts to help and after that no more was said of the systems being hacked. Russia then had to use drones to cut electricity supplies.
NZer here - go you Aussies! Great-looking aircraft!
This is *definitely* the way to go for militaries now.
China can build as many ships as it wants - they'll be sunk by fleets of these relatively-cheap drones that could surely carry at least 6-8 sea-skimming missiles each (or a couple of *torpedoes* - even harder to avoid).
Its good we are also spending stacks of money on building ships.
Kiwi air force an navy an army should get these
You can’t fix the retention problem with unmanned equipment….
Looks like that Flaming Phoenix jet from G-Force / Battle Of The Planets. Cool. 😎☺️
mid air refuelling for this drone would be amazing !!
It was originally called the loyal wingman. Built in Queensland Australia 🇦🇺
It's not built in Qld
Yes it is The three drones were built at an automated production line in Brisbane, Queensland - wiki entry
believe me that is 100% wrong.@@blogsfred3187
Wiki is 100% wrong@@blogsfred3187
@@blogsfred3187
Wiki is 100% wrong.
imagine what $400 million could do for Peace and Support in the country. What about the rural fire Brigade? Just as a start.
Wtf do you THINK that $400 million is going towards? Maybe you have this NATO styled entitlement that we American taxpayers would be thrilled to keep paying for every other country's military, but really, we wouldn't mind if you stood up and paid for your own defense.
And if you're so naive to think you don't need to invest in being able to wage war in order to have 'Peace and Support,' better start learning Chinese - although given socialism seems to be Australia's new form of government, you probably already are.
Investing in drone technology could really help fire brigades in the future. this is important
@@ronjon7942 As opposed to the US flirtation with authoritarianism ? - Every piece of US equipment we get , we cut you a cheque and our % of GDP spend is well above many NATO countries
Good on yer, Australia!
I wonder how much of this is made in Australia ?
All of it. Learn to listen better.
What they build the jet engines here all the electronics all the high-end integrated circuit all the motors that control the airfoil surfaces all of it I don't think so . I want it to be made here maybe you should learn to listen @@martiedoherty5765
Do they build the jet engine here do they build all the electronics here the motors that move the control surfaces the Tyres undercarriage maybe you should find out learn to listen.@@martiedoherty5765
Tell me are the jet engines made here all the avionics how about the motors that move the control surfaces the Tyres the undercarriage all the bearings etc. maybe you should look that up .@@martiedoherty5765
No, they don't @@martiedoherty5765
everyone building hugeg drones (i.e. the US "MQ-9" Reaper), i think the next step of such Drones should be the size, while keeping the payload .... a drone in a scale of 1:2 of a plane would be very diffrent to be hit to a plane
Someone needs to tell us what exactly this thing does. It's not a loiter platform for ISR. They've stated it has range and speed to keep up with fighter jets...but then what?
It doesn't look like there is room enough for internal weapons bays for a AMRAAM or two. It has swap-out nosecones with ...what? in them exactly.
I'm sure it'll have cameras and the like but what does it DO?!
Laser designator? F-35 has that built in?
EW, maybe?
Laser defence against incoming missiles?
the nose cones are modular so ISR, radar, EWAR what ever you need. Also ghost bats aren't small. They are 12 meters long, F-35 is 13 meters. Theres absolutely zero reason why the couldn't fit the a missiles bays used on the F-35. They may go with the fullsize A/C bays or might be restricted to the B bays
As to what its going to do. Bet initially its going to be for escort high value assets like tankers or AWAC allowing the manned fighters to more offensive operations. You could also have them running cap over airfields and other high value targets
500kg payload for an internal weapons bay.. At the moment they have left space for this to be added to the ghost bats that will be used as missile platforms.. Some will only be used for recon, some will only be used for expanding radar tracking for both ships and maned fighters... At the moment they are still in development and they will worry about weapons last.
Future versions/air frame upgrades will come with the ability to carry larger payloads and the ability to takeoff from navel ships. Short takeoffs... They may even try to make a vtol version
By no means an expert, but have Aero and general engineering understanding. Biggest issue is center of gravity, but this is a test bed aircraft, so you could assume the "B" model will be very different. The "A" model seems to priorities ISR nose cone systems. Block "B" could well be bigger engine, center-line weapons bay, etc. The important thing is being able to produce cheaply, and on mass. I seriously hope the ADF and Gov take this as a vitally important step in self reliance, not just give it away to overseas when 3/4 developed. (as we seem to do with all our great inventions).
Modular nose section and talk of an underbelly bomb bay. Can do air to air, air to ground, recon, CAS, SAR, decoy, spoof, EW and more. Kept pretty secret at this stage.
Top secret
Fantastic decision from the gov. I hope to see more of our military budget be put into real home grown tech.
Obviously still early on its development pathway - looks promising if a Labour government is putting more money into it. If it is proven to be uniquely capable the US will collaboratively build it (thousands) through Boeing US. Isn't that interesting, Boeing potentially back in the air dominance game (well LM did get the F-35).
from what i know no other country will ever build it as is Australian technology.
RAAF commander haed of the programme clearly stated it is a sovereign technology of Australia and especially the detachable nose design. he clearly ststed if any country wants a sensor or weapons package they have to get Australia to fit it keeping it a sovereign technology.
The AI in it is from another Australian company and not even owned by Boeing.
If they get it right as a game changer Australia could build it in the thousands for our own air force also. They should also build a long range bomber varent of it.
Nice.. how soon before you deploy it against your citizen's?
Yes but would something like this be INITIATED by Labor?
No it wouldn't maybe the Albanese Government has already given the plans to China
No the previous LNP started this military project. IT was originally called the loyal wingman. Built in Queensland and tested in Cloncurry in the states north.
if you were in one of the non fighter aircraft you could now have a ghost bat as a escort.
I thought this was the "Loyal Wingman" ?
With the word "Boeing" stuck on the side you can bet that any unique design features are already safely in the hands of the parent company.
Nice machine!
Block 2 will have weapons…….getting closer to a deployable model.
Model. That’s exactly what they are. Stupid radio controlled model aeroplanes for nerds ✈
@@kermitthehermit9588as long as it works. Does it matter?
US AirForce: Shut up and throws money on table. Build as many as you can for US AirForce.
It's just a drone. But from this guy's speech you'd swear it was Jesus Christ himself.
Thats Will Power.
The only way this strategy makes sense is if we make these systems attritable.
Its powerful I like it
13. All we’re getting is 13 when we need north of 100.
Its still in development.. Mass production will commence later on once contacts are awarded for orders. America and Japan are looking at placing large orders of the MQ-28 with joint manufacturing taking place in both America and Japan.. Australia may supply all the payload sensors and supply the AI to keep the technology 100% local but i don't think they will. With America looking to acquire 1000 to 2000 wing man drones i can see Australia will end up with around 200 of these in service with new more capable versions adding or subtracting from that number
It's not being bought as a combat a/c at this point, they are developing it to become one.
Buying 150 development a/c is a waste of money.
We're not getting 13. Where did you hear that from? We're buying dozens of them as their cost will reduce to under $10 million each when in full production supported by international sales to allies such as the USAF. You'd have 13 flying at once with a single Rhino or Wedgy if a mission required it. Possibly more.
Its an AI drone, so they are most likely purchasing more to test the machine learning models. What is key here is the AI software and the models not the platform. Once the software is well developed it can be loaded into many other aircraft types. I will suspect once the government is confident the software can beat any pilot, they will start going into production mode.
The initial ones are like prototypes. They'll be the most expensive at the start (now) as hardware and software are still in development. Once finalised, a scaled manufacturing process will be progressively built up and the cost will go down. At the moment it's all built custom. This is standard practice with any aircraft.
F/A-18's and F-22 are 'Crude' aircraft now? Did I mis-hear? ;-)
"Crewed"
@@Zei33 Don't ruin it for me.....
@@Lukeyson01😂😂😂
Crewed aircraft not crude
“Crewed” you simpleton!
Let's hope they're not put together the same and the 737MAX or 787.
Seeing that it’s built in Australia, probably not yeah?
Made by that Aussie company Boeing, so it's capabilities are not top secret then, are they?
It's software is. Australia bowing only desined the frame and intergrat US desined jet engine..all sensor's radar and AI is been developed by other Australian defence companies
I’ve seen the movie Stealth!
just make it 400 million
Made sure they kept Boeing brand out of the announcement, people would expect the wheels to fall off or something with their reputation lately. At 0:11 and 0:37 they made sure to get a close up of the girls working on something to make sure they got some diversity in, no aboriginals working on this project or they would have got a much longer close up.
The Albanese government? I thought it was the Australian government.
It's both..
@tin Whatever floats your boat, you prefer Liberal I have half a bridge to sell you.
@@paxalotin Provide absolutely any evidence for this statement lol
Hmmm the last thing that was Aussie designed 100% was the turning washing line! I thought this drone was mainly designed by Boing and gave Australia license to build it under their supervision ?
No the Australian Division is primarily responsible for the development of the MQ-28. I'm sure there would be some American input here and there but Australia has sovereign ownership over the intellectual property and is the primary investor in it.
I would prefer to hear an engineer or a director of the company talk on this subject, not an opinionated politician trying to gain kudos for his political career at the cost of some very very clever Australians. Top job mates, keep it up.
Yer so why carnt we manufacture our own fitter jets submarines an boats are well
TEN ? DAYS AGO, GOOD LORD ?
Still can't believe that name snuck through the layers of committees and bureaucracy ha ha ha
Hope can carry fuel to make fighter jet more longer duration
Those who have call of duty black ops 2, they were hundred thousand autonomous drones possessed by US military.
Sergeant woods had mentioned that world was entering in a drone race ,i thought it was just fictional information from the game.
Some how call of duty have predicted the future modern warfare, they will be autonomous drones in the year 2025 .
I never thought that is going a reality like we are in 2024 , next year it will be 2025 .
I think is better i wait for it to see it become a reality before i got surprised by my own expectations.
It will become a reality with the help AI like in call of duty black ops 2
How long before Ukraine submit a request for Australia to donate half a dozen of them
Did no-one see 'Stealth'? XD
Nice....!
$133 million per “block 2” ghost bat? …
In fairness, that includes R&D, setting up the supply chain, building or adding to the factory, fabricating raw materiel into parts, salaries, and a raft of other costs. A lot of those up front costs are going to be expensive; obviously some, like parts, will be recurring, but most will not. So, in any production run, the first few copies of the final product are going to seem crazy expensive, but as the number of drones reaches, say, 100, the per unit cost will drop dramatically.
If I were to wager, compared to the $90 million-ish for a copy of an F-35, I'd guess ome of your drones would go form$20 million - but since it's a government sponsored project shepherded by politicians, I'd immediately double that to $40 million.
Great - just what we want. Rather than actually seeing the aircraft we want a nondescript politician waffling on - thanks for that
Bonza!
What do the really do.
It's American its just been tested in Australia 🤔
It was technically designed in America. It was Boeing's submission to the USAF LCAAT program that was won by the XQ-58. After that Boeing made a request to further develop it in Australia and under ITAR regulations they had to get congressional approval.. The War Zone did a deep dive on it and got redacted documents under FOIA that shows that it was an initial US design. That is why it still falls under ITAR regulations even though it was manufactured in Australia by Boeing. It still had 37% US made components in it even though they are trying to make that number less with each block. The US is actually is very happy about as Australia gets to foot the R&D bill and the USAF gets the opportunity to purchase it if they chose to. It is really a win/win situation for everyone.
No it isnt
@@SCscoutguythe loyal wingman program development started in Australia 2014. That the Australian government took intrest of it in 2016 and further funded the program. That nonsense crap you're talking about is a whole different aircraft and was of some witen up nonsense from the US in 2019. The US has nothing to do with the loyal wingman program now called the MQ28 ghost bat. Other than the jet engine that is going into it. The entire airframe was developed and designed by Boeing Australia engineers. Even the intake of the aircraft was been developed in Australia I remember that writing up in 2017. It's other Australian defence industries that developing the AI and different nose slap ons for different missions
No pilot training required I guess? Which is holding up the F16s for the Ukrainians Airforce. They would just go straight in asap….?
To use their full capabilities they will be teami g with crewed aircraft, so the crews will require training and a whole suite of capabilities and tactics will have to be worked up.
They are far more tbat a fire-and-forget missile.
Germany tried this strategy with the Wunderwaffe. It never works to have a handful of high tech weapons. What does work is to have a citizen militia with access to heavy hitting low tech weapons.
Ah yes, because technological advancement is static.
Oh wait. It's not.
The things that didn't work before can work now.
That's how technological development is.
Stick to your typewriter boomer.
Also, citizen militia with heavy weapons?
Like what, a tactical nuke in the hands of volunteers?
Stay in the stone age gramps.
Still living the delusion that your musket is gonna prevent the government from telling you what to do. Oh wait, you have AR-15s now cuz it says right in the Constitution you can have them. uhuh right.
A capable Reserve land force is a very valuable thing, BUT……
1. Without a long-range anti-air and anti-surface capability, we leave ourselves open to bombardment from beyond our ability to hit back. What happens when all our major coastal cities and industries are getting flattened?
2. We are an isolated nation, very dependent on our overseas trade and supply.
Without a long-range capability, we allow any enemy to operate with impunity as long as they stay a certain distance away. Being able to hit their shipping, their bases and their infrastructure raises the cost - to them - of attacking us, and denies them the ability to choose the battlefield.
Such as the ordinately expensive Javelin missiles which wiped out hundreds of USSR tanks.
Australian Taxpayer stops work and looks over in bewilderment: "I'm spending $399 million on what...?"
Costs will come down as scale increases. With the US looking to buy them as well, the cost could drop quite a bit.
Have you asked the average taxpayer whether they’d prefer to spend their hard-earned on an adequate defence, or poetry grants for transexual harp seals? We do not spend much on defence in comparison to the waste on trendy social programs and subsidies.
@@peterwebb8732 I think they should give land rights to homosexual whales and keep them in the ground...
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Alongside Hornets ... ?? ok .... 🤔🤔
The Australian Government's recent funding boost to the MQ-28A Ghost Bat aircraft program, as announced at the Australian Defence Force HQ in Canberra, represents a questionable pursuit of high-tech prestige over practicality. The MQ-28A, formerly known as the Loyal Wingman, is celebrated as the first combat aircraft designed and built in Australia in over half a century, aimed at enhancing the Royal Australian Air Force's capabilities as a force multiplier. So what! However, this initiative can be seen as an extravagant endeavour that overlooks the aircraft's notable vulnerabilities, including its susceptibility to attack and limited self-defence capabilities and payload. Furthermore, the investment is criticised for its substantial cost, especially when more affordable, off-the-shelf alternatives offer superior armament capacity and effective interoperability. This decision seems to reflect an unnecessary competition for technological status rather than a judicious assessment of defence needs and cost-effectiveness. Defence procurement is broken at all levels. Assessment:- Pass on this proposal.
Would like to thank the previous government (Morrison) and Boeing for this initiative.
They set the program going and funded the program, the current government is only following on.
I'd like to thank Morrison for no longer being PM.
@@raytheonbuna1021 Swapped him for the worst government in Australia's history. Good job.
Yeah I look back to the glory days of Christian Porter as AG, He was GREATTTTT. Angus Taylor with his water license deals? He was a winner!
I do understand your frustration and (anger?) and I'm certainly not a fan of Anthony Albanese but Morrison, Jen and the kids brought new lows to Parliamentary standards. It was a reality show FFS. Go make another cubby house in the backyard or cook some shit food. Glad to see the back of him. @@yakidin63
He doesn't hold a tool mate
0:38 wait a minute is he saying indirectly each drone costs $100 mln??
In fairness, that includes R&D, setting up the supply chain, building or adding to the factory, fabricating raw materiel into parts, salaries, and a raft of other costs. A lot of those up front costs are going to be expensive; obviously some, like parts, will be recurring, but most will not. So, in any production run, the first few copies of the final product are going to seem crazy expensive, but as the number of drones reaches, say, 100, the per unit cost will drop dramatically.
If I were to wager, compared to the $90 million-ish for a copy of an F-35, I'd guess ome of your drones would go form$20 million - but since it's a government sponsored project shepherded by politicians, I'd immediately double that to $40 million.
@@ronjon7942 if the F35 costs 90mil per aircraft for a crewed fighter pilot how does 100mln makes sense for one UCAV?
Yeah well with 60k people in our armed forces, total, we’ll need all the AI help we can get
Why do our pollies sound like drongos? LOL Great aircraft.
Maybe we should invest in some radar systems. People in old junk wooden boats can still land on our north coast totally undetected. Its an absolute joke.
We Americans can relate...well, kinda. Every alien crossing our southern border illegally is detected, but for wont of future lib votes, our socialist administration invites anyone and everyone in; we'll even pay, shelter, feed, and clothe them! At least one thing is the same twixt us - our president is an absolute joke too.
So basically everything in Australia is made in China except this thing🤣🤣
Chuckle
Hi Cliff. My Name is Cliff. Why don't you drop over and see me sometime?
BTW, I wasn't made in China...
Turkish kızılelma - quarter of the price..
Depends ot what it can do. The Mq28 ghost bat has 3 different nose attachments for different missions. Reconnaissance, electronic attack, combat operations and has AI. A lot of software and techining going into the AI. Including safeguarding software from being hacked. Including integrating wepons sensors and recognising only Australian defence platforms software to be able to serve alongside other Australian defence platforms to give it voice commands with the AI ect The more you put into it the more it cost..
@@Nathan-ry3yu understood but in an era we see a simple drone can hit major Russian ship and tanks, it is proven what most matters is the count and swarming the enemy with these unmanned vehicles. Instead of getting 15 mq28s, you may get 100s of much lower price still jet engine, similar capability hitting with supersonic and cruise missiles from a long distance and flying very high altitude to evade enemy radars. Wars usually last long. effectiveness with “cost” and “count” weighs heavier. Mq28 is a beast but comes with a heavy price tag. It took only a week Turks and Azeris to evaporate entire Syrian and Armenian armies just using simple drones despite Russian air defense systems.
$400 million for three drones. Who thinks that's good value?
That will be program costs, not the sticker-price.
Apparently it's 13. Most of the cost is likely trying to make up for the research expenses.
In fairness, that includes R&D, setting up the supply chain, building or adding to the factory, fabricating raw materiel into parts, salaries, and a raft of other costs. A lot of those up front costs are going to be expensive; obviously some, like parts, will be recurring, but most will not. So, in any production run, the first few copies of the final product are going to seem crazy expensive, but as the number of drones reaches, say, 100, the per unit cost will drop dramatically.
If I were to wager, compared to the $90 million-ish for a copy of an F-35, I'd guess ome of your drones would go form$20 million - but since it's a government sponsored project shepherded by politicians, I'd immediately double that to $40 million.
We are getting more than that, this is also creating an internal economy and production program for them. The benefits are huge. This is how countries create sovereign capabilities, but people like you complain and would prefer we spend hundreds of billions on a few subs.
That's gonna fix the housing crisis.
Might as well free Palestine while we are it yeah? Great cooker comment ❤
Absolute waste of money for our isolated country
Well looking at the Boeing manufacturing problems I'm sure this will be a nice boost to the US MIC. One assumes they fly with the F-35, when it isn't in the workshop. Consider this, when was the last time our defense bureaucrats got anything right?
It pays to look at when our defence bureaucrats got it wrong….. like when they left us desperately unprepared for war in the 1930s.
The MIC is what you will be looking for if things get hairy, and only a fool imagines that the kind of technology needed to win modern wars can be cobbled up in Evelyn Owen’s garage.
Buying 3. Bahahahaha. That’ll scare the Chinese
The Aussies hadn't invented anything useful since the rotating clothes line. Way to go bogans!
Rubbish. The CSIRO successfully sued 20 companies for breach of patent over Wi-Fi, which was invented by the radio astronomy unit.
No, it's the AUSTRALIAN Government, WE are paying for it, you are just there to make decisions on OUR behalf.
3?.. WTF Boeing is taking us for a ride - for drones to be effective they need to be very very cheap like for this stuff at most a $m each - the aim is to support the manned aircraft so they need to be cheap and disposable not the same as the manned aircraft
Taking us for a ride alright. Do all the research, development and testing here in Aus, iron out the bugs and release it as a working platform. Sounds like we are just a "proof of concept" player especially with the low numbers we will get. Time will tell and let's see if it gets deployed by the US and sold wider to friendly's to boost Boeing's coffers.
@@thetoymanator7723Yes. Like most countries do, that pay for their own defense and R&D.
They are making a fighter jet drone with AI for a 6th gen platform doesn't come cheap. But still cheaper than a F35
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Typically you don't go into production until you have actually proved the concept. If you had bothered to google any mainstream aircraft development program, including those that leads to literally thousands of jets being purchased by the USAF for example, you would find that the early aircraft were in small batches as the design was hammered out and specifications locked down. That is to say they are still developing it. Less emojis and more thought please.
And I believe the Yanks want to purchase some.
LOL, No they are just going to steal the needed bits and make there own. For a few million a piece.
QUESTION IS. how many chinese spies got their hands on it ?????
You mean to say the Australian tax payer is making this investment.
What a stupid way to frame this. Yes news flash, countries fund their own defense? You dont need to spell it out to make a point. I'd prefer we be spending money on home grown tech then just buying already built military tech from the US and europe to fund their economies.
Look at what TURKEY has done with their program. AI based recon loitering attack platform.
Source?
This money should've directly been invested in long range fires and the ageing and broken PMV fleet/IFV'S.. absolutey deranged decision considering how far behind the ball our army is
You not know we are get 75 SEPv3 Abrams tanks worth $3.5Billion?
Plus we don't really need an army. We need Navy and Airforce resources
@@The.Drunk-Koala Yes and no.
The Army represents additional capability if an enemy gets past our first lines of defence. Not having an army gives any aggressor options that we don’t want them to have.
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why not call it soemthing cool like an aussie animal like taipan rather than ghost bat ffs.... politicians always gotta put their name on soemthing they have nothing to do with lol
Because ghost bats work in packs
Well this must have cost 50 times more then predicted that would be the science technology way.