Classical Composer Reacts to Master of Puppets (Metallica) | The Daily Doug (Episode 188)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2021
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to the live version of Metallica's Master of Puppets from their 1999 S & M concert with the San Francisco Symphony. Great version of the song!
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If you want to start covering Metallica, Orion is a must.
It is purely an instrumental, and a rather dynamic one.
big 💯
The Call of Ktulu as well
I love me some Orion.
All my thumbs and toes up for this! An absolute power house in rhythm and subtle progressive metal riffage!
Yes, but i would reccomend him the studio version, i know Doug likes reacting to live versions, but i think Orion studio version is better, because you can hear all the harmonies
Listen to the Call of Ktulu. It's the closest song to classical music as you can get. This and Orion. Album versions please
My favourite two Metallica songs by miles. \m/
@@pentagrammaton6793 Same here, favorite two Metallica songs are both instrumental, and To Live is to die is pretty high on the list too.
Orion still stands as my favourite Metallica song by an absolute mile, nothing even comes close. Partly sentimental but also because it just kicks so much arse
Exactley
And its composed by dave mustane XD
Michael Kamen described Metallica's music as beautifully stark black and white pictures. And he can't improve on the black and white, so he just adds splashes of color. And I love that THAT was his philosophy in approaching their music.
Oh, you have to do the instrumental, Orion, from this same album. There’s a beautiful 6/8 interlude which showcases Cliff - he actually plays a bass solo at the end of the part that I always thought was on guitar. One of their best compositions, IMHO. Cheers!
Or Anesthesia (Pulling teeth) as a great bass feature!
Orion is my favorite song from my favorite Metallica album
@@2giantmonsters It's hard to argue that! I remember taping For Whom the Bell Tolls off the radio. We were all Metalheads but when I played the song for them they didn't get why I liked it. Too fast, too loud, can't make out all the lyrics, singer has a HORRIBLE voice. I heard all these remarks and I'm sure a few more that I don't recall.
By the time Master of Puppets came out they all had "got it"! It's always cool when you turned 12 to 15 people on to the band...even if it took them over a year. Then how many people did those friends turn on to the band!
I kind of got a "new band" pass where if I told them to check out a new band they trusted that they should REALLY look into them since probably 6 or 8 of them would call Metallica their favorite band of all bands or performers!
Orion is Metallica's best. I agree Doug!
There are 3 bass solos in orion. One is a duet with james
I personally love this whole concert.
The mixture of orchestra and metal is a match that is incredible.
S&M is one of the greatest concerts ever in my opinion.
I’ve never understood how people can dislike it. So much depth and colour.
I was at both nights of this performance. Flew out there from Ohio, stayed in a HORRID hotel after the first show and flew back home after the second show with NO sleep. Was too worried that the guy in the next room was going to shoot me while he screamed at his lady.
The orchestra was SO into it. They had no idea what they were in for. When they showed up the first night, those of us who were outside the venue started to cheer for them. Pretty sure they never had that happen before.
This is one of my favorite live concert memories. So glad you covered a song from it.
They blended metal and orchestra so beautifully at this concert. S&M is probably my favorite album ever. I just wish I could have gone to this show.
No one else mentioned it so I will. That violinist was really rocking it. Hammett really knows
how to thrash a guitar when he's feeling it.
I forgot how great Lars played in this period of the band. When you look at recent performances of this song, its like a lite version of the drums.
Bro they have aged, its completely natural
@@picklegallagher5807 it’s not normal for a drummer to somehow get sloppier the older they get
Got to remember, even if he's slipped a bit, he had to be on point for S&M2. Can't really mess around when you're the anchor for a full orchestra
@@Blaze_Drumz it's called drugs + not caring about anything due to cliffs death + age= modern Lars......
He's epic in Seattle 89 too. Exceptionally good drummer during the 80s and 90s.
I enjoy the channel but I gotta say Doug has an uncanny ability to talk over some of the best parts. I just feel he's missing out lol
Yeah, I wish he would pause the song to do some analysis. Most other react people do that. It may interrupt the flow of the song, but we're here for the analysis, we can listen to the song anytime.
I have a hard time watching reaction videos because they always ruin the best parts haha.
There's more to say about the best parts.
I get that but his job is to talk,I’m sure he’d love to just let the song play but he has to add commentary for fair use. I know what you mean though and it makes me just go listen to the song and then come back,or I play the song first because I know he’s gonna talk over a lot of it😜
@@michaelblaine6494 he can pause lol
I'm not so much annoyed myself, I feel bad for him missing some cool intricate parts that I'd love to hear his reaction to
Death - Voice of the Soul. Beautiful instrumental.
It's really dangerous to the ears when the real hardcore death metal bands touch up on the instrumental songs.. they know how and when to tone it down and they truly deliver.. like say, for example, this one that you mentioned and also, Lead Me Home by Shadows Fall.. true masterpieces among others from different bands
It's important to note: this was the first song of the show where James actually sang (Call of Ktulu was first) so this was his vocal warm up song!
Master of Puppets is a song that should be a case of study in any school of music around the world. It has everything. Is a timeless anthem.
Actually not needed, since there is NE OBLIVISCARIS's "And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope" for that ;)
metalinjection.net/news/ne-obliviscaris-added-to-sydney-conservatorium-music-studies-curriculum
It's great to hear a composer critique this. When I was young in the 80's I always thought that metal, especially this band, had a medievel sound. It sounds like something that classical composers would have come up with. Like the soundtrack to the great crusades. The conductor said it was very well written music. The symphony really added to their sound. Great reaction.
5:16 > "...chop your breakfast on a mirror" is as overt as it gets :) Nicely done on this video...really enjoyed it.
Doug, I sincerely adore these videos. To see somebody as clearly knowledgeable and informed as you enjoy these songs really makes me feel good! Thanks, mate. :)
Hey Doug, please keep making this content! Your analysis are great and to pluck the notes out the air as you go along is truly incredible.
Just found this channel a few hours ago and it is GOLD! Really love what you are doing here!
Newsted on fire! Those backing vocals will haunt you back home! What a beast!
I really appreciate this version of this song. S and M was my first CD of Metallica that I had. Its epic listen metal with the symphonic orchestra.
Also, about this song, there are some curious facts that I believe would be nice to share:
1st- there's a riff from the song, after the second solo (the one from Kirk) that was from a David Bowie song, it was an homage from Cliff!
2nd - in most performances (not this one, sadly), James sings Pancakes instead of fix me just before a solo (in this particular version, it was "Fix me baby"). Besides being funny for its randomness, it's also an homage to Cliff (from a joke he made in the last tour he was), and would be amazing to see your reaction to it, sadly it didn't happen
Pancakes go!
The Ecstacy of Gold/Call of Ktulu/Master Of Puppets from this concert, should be listened to uninterruptedly as one piece. The most epic rock concert evert.
I loved your commentary at the end dude.
Wise words there at the end from you Doug. I was 15 years old when I first heard Master of Puppets (on cassette; I had pre-ordered it from my local music store) and...Wow, it blew my socks off, and my speakers out! It's still one of my favourite Metallica songs to date.
This concert was such a unique experience when it happened, so glad they decided to do this again. Helps to show ppl the classical nature of rock music
Your discord notifications are giving me mini-heart attacks.
fixed it...sorry
@@Doug.Helvering You're a real hero, Duggy
lmao
I was looking through my whole discord to find the notification during the whole video ^^
“The Call of Ktulu” from the same concert is incredible.
Awesome, also cool message at the ending Doug
The DVD allows you to play the audio 2.0 with orchestra only! Bonus features.
This very performance of Metallica was what turned me into a metalhead back in 2004! Love it!
Doug, your assessment is dead nuts on, and the message is as relevant (if not more) today than when the song was recorded. This performance and recording is glorious, the only thing I can complain about is that all the orchestral goings-on cover up how tight and effortlessly the four Metallica guys perform a f!?king hard song. This is an amazing performance no matter how you slice it.
Perfect! This live symphonic live interpretation of MOP is very emblematic. One of the most beautiful and powerful song ever made. Simple as that. Kudos! Nice channel man.
No Leaf Clover is my favorite track from this concert.🤘🏻
Same
I love that James trusts his audience to hit that flat 2 on the second "MASTER!"
Impressed and loved the reaction! JD
As a band geek, I always wanted to hear Metallica’s dramatic and dynamic music with an orchestra, and S&M blew my mind. It is the best rock performance I’ve ever seen.
Thanks so much for reacting to this! Wish more reactors would react to this version, appreciate the orchestral element isn't to everyone's taste but personally I think it elevates an already epic song to an even higher level. Best live performance of any song I've ever seen
Hey Doug, loving the reacts! Your channel popped up on my suggestions a few months back and I haven’t looked back since! I’d highly recommend the track ‘Cirice’ by Ghost, there’s some really interesting harmonies going on in the piece and I think you’ll enjoy it ✌️😄
You should react to Orion, from the same album. It's an instrumental that really shows the unique genius of their best bassist, Cliff burton.
Also, please, for the love of all that is good in this world, do the studio version. Metallica is a great band but they (Lars) can't really play live.
I don’t even know where to start with that ignorant last sentence. Is Lars the best drummer ever? Certainly not. However, he has played thousands of live shows all over the world for arguably the biggest metal band ever. I know it’s the “cool” thing to dump on Lars but to say he can’t play live is asinine.
@@MrBassmaster72 I know it’s a bit of an over exaggeration to say that he can’t play live, but you must admit, he’s not exactly the most consistent drummer ever. Just in this video even, he’s not looking too good, and this is where he played with an orchestra, so presumably he actually tried for this one, instead of the rest, where he either was 24 and high on cocaine or older and just gave up. There are some “questionable” drum fills he likes to do that gets sprinkled in, with his otherwise mediocre playing, which all in all makes live Metallica a less than adequate live experience. The few exceptions to me are the old stuff from when he was younger and could still play fast, and the absolute latest tours from 2017-2019 when they actually started trying again. Still Lars’s weird fills and his tempo changes still makes their live stuff very sub par.
So no I’m not just dunking on him cause it’s popular. The sad fact is he just isn’t very good live.
Ps. This is not to discredit his huge impact on metal or to say that he is a bad songwriter. Just saying he’s not very tight.
Edit: Spelling errors.
Nothing is more exasperating than the Lars hate. I play in bands and I'm super picky about drummers, and I've watched a ton of live Metallica footage. Lars is fine. I swear every modern metalhead expects every drummer to be all blast beats and double bass or they suck. Lars actually has interesting, syncopated ideas, as opposed to hitting every drum every 2 seconds.
@@eliashornwall8546 I agree with you on this post. This was said much better. Well said.
Lars may be a bit sloppy for sure but who cares really? The influence he had on metal music is huge and ask any metal drummer out there and they cite Lars as an influence. I do miss the fast younger days. We are on the same page with that.
It just gets under my skin having to defend Lars. I’ve always liked him and he had a big impact on me personally. I think of it like basketball sometimes. Is the last guy on the bench for an NBA team as good as LeBron or Jordan? No they aren’t. But that doesn’t mean they can’t play well. Are they the best ever? No. Could they dominate any “normal” Joe Blow basketball player? Every time.
I have seen Metallica a dozen times live and never did I consider it to be a marginal experience. It’s been fantastic every time and I’ll always continue to go see them live. No matter what kind of nite Lars may be having at the time.
With that said, I appreciate you clarifying your position and thanks much for not taking it personally and simply making your point. I sure wish everyone could do that but it appears to be a lost art these days.
Have a good one man! Keep jammin!!!
If you're going to a rock & roll show and expecting a perfect reproduction of the studio recording, you've missed the point rather tragically. As Mantas of the famously shambolic band Venom once screeched into the mic, "If you want to hear Venom [studio recording quality and accuracy], go home and listen to your fucking LPs, cuz tonight you are gonna get one and a half hours of pure fucking mayhem!"
A big aspect of going to a live metal show is rocking out, not counting beats or trying to get a good cellphone clip for the Youtoobs. In a live situation, passion and feel are more important than accuracy, at least in heavy rock music.
Besides, every rock & roll show ought to be a unique experience with spur of the moment improvisation, crowd interaction, etc. - what's the point of seeing a band twice if it's the same exact show each time? That's something I greatly miss about the 1970s, when any given show could feature long stretches of improvisation, impromptu alternate arrangements of songs, etc. When a rock concert could actually be a unique musical event, instead of a carbon copy of every other night of the tour.
Also, I think it's a bit rich to complain to the creators of the piece that "that's not how you played it the first time!". I remember when Prince smoked the Superbowl half-time show, which probably will stand as the greatest of all time, hearing people jeer and complain that he didn't play the Purple Rain solo exactly as it was on the record. OK, when YOU write a monster hit song and are widely recognized as one of the greatest guitar players and performers in popular music, YOU go out and play it note-perfect every single night... I think when you write a song, you get to play it any way you damn well please. But music fans get so entitled, they think because they bought the record and the shirt, they can put the artist in their back pocket.
Having ranted about all that, it is true enough that Lars does not have the skills to back up his overinflated rock star ego - everyone knows this, even Metallica knows this. Hell, James turned Lars down the first time they jammed together because Lars was so bad. But Metallica would never have been what it was and is without Lars. And hey, in a live situation I don't really care if he takes shortcuts, and ultimately, people who get too anal about details and technique tend to be people who spend their whole life practising in their bedroom and never inspiring a single kid to pick up an instrument.
Always liked how they drop the melody in the pre-chorus and let the orchestra carry it
And again!! Talked through almost the whole beginning of the middle section!! Why Doug whyyyy 😭😭😭😭😭
I'll never leave your channel I just have to love you anyway.
Also fun fact, the flat ii is what makes thrash metal what it is. The up a step modulation and then back to original key done with chromatic steps thrown in.
Just a fun fact from a metal head.
Love ya Doug!!!
dropping a beat or two is their signature almost
I love your breakdowns of the S&M concert
the discord beep boop had me so confused
Check out Haken! (rhymes with bacon)
Falling Back to Earth
Celestial Elixer (this one's long)
Cockroach King (album ver)
1985
The Architect (another long one)
Earthrise (the most pop of their songs)
Aquarium
Visions (long)
How great that Doug doesn't stop the music to comment...thoroughly enjoyed this!
Man I really enjoy your videos. Id love for you to do some videos on old all that remains like This Darkened Heart, or Passion.
Love your metal appreciation, so cool
u should react to the whole concert. This is a perfection
Doug, if you are going to do another Metallica, many I'm sure would like you to react to Orion on Master of Puppets or Call of Ktulu on Ride the Lighting, both instrumentals. Studio versions.
James's voice in the this recording is amazing.
love when they throw the tritone in at the end if the intro going into the verse riff
One of the best symphonic arrangements they did. Amazing.
The look of bewilderment on the woman's face at 14:03 always slays me. I imagine her being a diehard symphony fan with a season pass, having showed for the concert with no idea what was in store for her. HAHA!
you got me with that discord! :D I check mine and nothing there :) I love brass in metal songs... usually they give me chills and make song epic! great video :)
Apocalyptica would be right up your alley, classical covers of Metallica and Sepultura to name a few...
I love the constant tension that the chromaticism brings to this song. Also, I like that it's such a popular modern song and in sonata form.
If you want to be free,refuse to be a puppet,stay sober!
It sounds like an orchestra is playing an unrelated song in the next room.
Thats One for me
Totally agree
Exactly my thoughts. What a great song it is in its original album variant, and what an unlistenable mess it is in this performance, unfortunately.
And imagine that this one was one of the most "successful" of the show...
Tbh I think S&M is amazing, its just that some songs don't really work
The studio version of MoP sounds so tight! Because they recorded it at slower tempo and sped it up for the mixing/mastering (probably they were even tuned slightly lower than E for that). I agree that Orion or Call of Ktulu should be the next ones. I always wonder why Lars makes such big difference between studio and live versions...
Page and Plant, with the Boston Symphony Orchestra.. if you can find it..
It's circa 1995.
You have to watch the start of the show the first 3 songs all roll into each other, and it’s SO powerful!!
I've always loved flying French Horns. The Star Trek II Soundtrack is chock full of them!
So excited for this!
“Watermelon the lyrics” lolol AWESOME dude
The brass does so much heavy lifting in this entire album and is rarely acknowledged
Newstead also did I Disappear for MI2 and he did an MTV small concert and that was it.
I'd love to see something from The Mars Volta's Deloused in the Comatorium. That was such a powerful album.
I love how the accented beats turn around. Bang your head along with the snare and you'll experience it.
That main verse riff has a bar of 21/32, but it's all done by feel (so like, 5/8 with a little extra). A lot of old Metallica, especially on Master Of Puppets and ...And Justice For All have some odd time signatures (the main riff in Blackened is in 7/4, stuff like that).
am a metallica fan so Master of Puppets and this one with the SFO... but listening to it again gave me goosebumps!
I will forever mantain that as far as live albums goes this is James's peak vocally...
Mr. Doug I think it’s time to bust out some Haken- with the kind of amazing dissection you do and what you seem to gravitate towards, I think either “Visions” or “Crystallised” would be right up your alley.
Yes. Haken please.
Gotta do "The Call Of Ktulu" from this
If you did all these S&M songs I would be so happy. Love your musical I knowledge input
This is the song that I would play in my head to keep my pace while doing drill in the army. It's perfect for keeping the cadence.
One of my FAVORITE albums - Two great genres, that genre great together. :P
This is best watched as a 1 2 3 punch of the Ecstasy of Gold intro by Ennio Morricone from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, into The Call of Ktulu, into Master of Puppets.
Awesome reaction, Doug! Yesh, Metallica did a stellar performance here with the symphony orchestra. I'm pretty sure the members of the orchestra weren't used to having a loud, raucous singing audience before too, hehehe!!! You should do a reaction to Kiss live with the Melbourne symphony. "I was Made For Loving You" would be an awesome choice!!!
Metallica - No Leaf Clover (San Francisco Simphony) is amazing and a good one to react!
Well unlike the rest of the comments, I love this version. Might be because this was the first Metallica album I listened to as a kid, but I remember it just being a sound that I hadn't heard before and becoming obsessed with it.
I'd still really love you to react to "The Attitude Song" by Steve Vai, done with an orchestra. I think you'd be interested in the time signature changes. It's just compositionally interesting! Another I'm dying to see you do is Zappa's "The Black Page" - so named because the score has so many notes, there's more black than white on the page!
This gives me chills every time I listen to it! Lol🥶😎🤘🤘
You really need to check King Crimson albuns. Different eras, different formations. In the court of; Lizard, Red, Starless, Discipline, Thrack, The ConstruKction of Light . Give a chance to a Italian Prog Avant bliss as Area
This song is so powerful
Don't know if anyone noted this, but the original S&M DVD is like the CD, double discs.
But there's a orchestral only track!
KTULU MAN! in this concert, ktulu is the thing that you can talk about
I’ve got to say, I MUCH prefer the orchestra in the S&M2 arrangement. It actually feels like a properly integrated part of the piece, as opposed to in juxtaposition with Metallica themselves, which this version sounds like.
Hey Doug would love to see your take on Extremes Get the funk out. The grove and the note choices in the solo especially
This is the first song I heard literally thousands of time when I was 11! My first album! The first song I was infatuated with!
Yo Doug, a heads up, I think your Discord was with sound notifications on, and it could be heard a couple times on the video, I even thought it was my Discord at first 😁
Would love to see a Wintersun (Sons of Winter and Stars) reaction! Or Galneryus (Angel of Salvation. Full song). Also Ne Obliviscaris (song: And Plague Flowers) too!
I second Ne Obliviscaris
@@petergjata1498 Such a sadness to see them completely and continuously overlooked... Go figure the number of people that talk about Cliff Burton, yet nobody knows of the work in bass by Brendan "Cygnus" Brown... But "Hey! This song is an anthem up to this day, therefore, it must be good for that to happen!"...
Black horsemen by king diamond🤘🤘 the whole album Abigail is an amazing story and black horsemen is an amazing closer
The Outlaw Torn, Ktulu, No Leaf Clover and -Human, Bleeding Me are the best ones with the orchestra. They're beautiful. And dear Doug, I encourage you to pause and then analyze the pieces you speak about. You're missing a lot.
Being at a Metallica show many times, fist in the air screaming “Master Master” along with Hetfield and the entire crowd was an intense awesome experience
Should do "Outlaw Torn" or "Bleeding Me" from the same concert. More groove and bluesy hard rock songs.
Some possible future reactions similar to this one. Concerto for Group and Orchestra, a three-movement epic composed by John Lord as a solo project and performed by Deep Purple at the Royal Albert Hall in London with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Malcolm Arnold. This was the first thing that the Mark II version of the band did even before In Rock, their first proper Deep Purple album. Alongside Days of Future Passed by the Moody Blues and Five Bridges by the Nice, it was one of the first collaborations between a rock band and an orchestra.
For next week i recommend Hangar 18 by Megadeth
So much wonderful sounds from the S/M concert ❤️
*EDIT* for a guy really loving metal and classic music, the combination are just amazing 🤩
*EDIT #2* Doug you need react to some classic music as well 👍🏻
That Discord notification sounds coming from back made me paranoid, I keep checking my discord and find nothing; then I realized it's coming from Doug when I rewinded the video couple seconds back. xD