And you don't think it's pure opinionated prejudice that keeps the hydrogen dream going? There's factually too many logistical problems with it to overcome. Had EVs not been a) (re)invented) and b) had 20 years headstart on hydrogen, then maybe more work would be done. But like it or not, battery electric is considerably more viable now.
@@matthewnicholas6365 Steady on! I did NOT say anything about the so-called "hydrogen dream". I DON'T believe in it, as the infrastructure issue is so tough to solve. I ONLY pointed out the absolute awfulness of the video. Think of my comment more like an "honest friend" argument, pointing out that bad arguments don't advance causes, no matter how valid those causes are.
@MarcFresko OK if we're being polite and civilised, that's now how your original comment reads. It could literally be written by any anti-EV keyboard warrior who makes up facts to reinforce their own biases. If that isn't you, that's brilliant. Bias is a terrible thing.
@@phillipzx3754 What is the Efficiency of a ICE engine ? What's the Fuel cost of Moving Oil from the Middle East to Australia ? What's the Energy cost of Refining oil ? Hydrogen can be generated using Solar and other "free" energy sources.
@@beyondaeon "What is the Efficiency of a ICE engine ? " Using gasoline, about 25%-30%, depending. "Hydrogen can be generated using Solar and other "free" energy sources." And it's STILL less efficient than just charging batteries with those "free" energy sources. A modern 3 phase AC electric motor using batteries and an inverter is over 85% efficient. Please don't tell me you think BURNING hydrogen in an ICE is a "good thing." 🤣🤣 You'll still need a cat if you want to keep the emissions low.
The future of Clean Hydrogen powered vehicles will be a thing.. Elon is even thinking about it. Because renewable hydrogen is cleaner than local coal markets that are used for charging. With Space X having thoughts of being the biggest hydrogen producer in the world, it is poised to release a hydrogen economy to the US.. The supercharger infrastructure network is too costly. Elon has fired most or all of his Supercharger staff. He will soon be creating the largest renewable hydrogen company in the US, that will be creating liquid hydrogen for Space X rockets... with a side benefit of selling said hydrogen to the consumer to pay for it all. In advance of that, Tesla will be building an EV that will run on Hydrogen.
b.t.w. here we have public transport that uses hydrogen. Nah driving a Tesla changed with a nucliair power plant is useful. No clue how i got here, but i hope after disliking it i will not get anymore of this "useless" stuff.
What BS! How far can you drive with an EV? Hydrogen is a product which occurs naturally and for example Gold Hydrogen in South Australia has a huge deposit of natural hydrogen. The technology for vehicles is similar to ICE engines and does not rely on complicated fuel cell technology.
@BeatOdermatt There are 0 hydrogen on earth in its pure form, 100% of it is bonded to something else, like oxygen molecule which results in water. And being dependent on what Australia provides is just shifting one dependency to another... 100% of hydrogen needs to be produced. And your "complicated" fuel cell technology is 2x the efficiency of ICE engines. How many do you think would want to pay 2x for fuel while running system which will have exponentially higher maintenance costs? HICE engines are non starter.
@@Zripas That is wrong. I am sure that you haven't read anything about Gold Hydrogen, a company that has proven that large commercially available hydrogen can be extracted from underground resources at a fraction of the cost of other hydrogen alternatives. Why do you think that Bezos and Bill Gates invested Billions into hydrogen? Why do you think Toyota and other vehicle manufacturers support hydrogen vehicles?
The nutjobs (and these people are brainwashed climate change catastrophists) think of the electric motor and the rest they put out of their minds somehow, through some sort of compartmentalization. Putting a tank of fuel in a car is just infinitely easier than building these huge batteries and then charging them up over and over. They really believe that "any day now" they'll have batteries that are as good as a volume of petroleum. They're fucking nuts.
The sheer silliness of this video is outdone only by its poor and boring production. Opinionated prejudice does not constitute fact.
And you don't think it's pure opinionated prejudice that keeps the hydrogen dream going?
There's factually too many logistical problems with it to overcome. Had EVs not been a) (re)invented) and b) had 20 years headstart on hydrogen, then maybe more work would be done.
But like it or not, battery electric is considerably more viable now.
@@matthewnicholas6365 Steady on! I did NOT say anything about the so-called "hydrogen dream". I DON'T believe in it, as the infrastructure issue is so tough to solve. I ONLY pointed out the absolute awfulness of the video. Think of my comment more like an "honest friend" argument, pointing out that bad arguments don't advance causes, no matter how valid those causes are.
@MarcFresko OK if we're being polite and civilised, that's now how your original comment reads.
It could literally be written by any anti-EV keyboard warrior who makes up facts to reinforce their own biases.
If that isn't you, that's brilliant. Bias is a terrible thing.
the best laugh I've had in ages, maybe some research would be sensible prior to making a video about how bad something is
Hey uhh, FYI, if you burn any hydrocarbons then there's water coming out your exhaust... good luck on your mission though. Seems like you need it.
The future of cars is electric!
Hydrogen powered fuel cell cars are also electric. 🙂 The problem with hydrogen is in the production, storage, and transport.
@@phillipzx3754 Which are issues that can be fixed / mitigated with technology
@@beyondaeon That's the same old story we've heard over the past 40 years.
In the end, hydrogen is not an efficient fuel to use.
@@phillipzx3754 What is the Efficiency of a ICE engine ? What's the Fuel cost of Moving Oil from the Middle East to Australia ? What's the Energy cost of Refining oil ?
Hydrogen can be generated using Solar and other "free" energy sources.
@@beyondaeon "What is the Efficiency of a ICE engine ? "
Using gasoline, about 25%-30%, depending.
"Hydrogen can be generated using Solar and other "free" energy sources."
And it's STILL less efficient than just charging batteries with those "free" energy sources.
A modern 3 phase AC electric motor using batteries and an inverter is over 85% efficient.
Please don't tell me you think BURNING hydrogen in an ICE is a "good thing." 🤣🤣 You'll still need a cat if you want to keep the emissions low.
The future of Clean Hydrogen powered vehicles will be a thing.. Elon is even thinking about it. Because renewable hydrogen is cleaner than local coal markets that are used for charging. With Space X having thoughts of being the biggest hydrogen producer in the world, it is poised to release a hydrogen economy to the US.. The supercharger infrastructure network is too costly. Elon has fired most or all of his Supercharger staff. He will soon be creating the largest renewable hydrogen company in the US, that will be creating liquid hydrogen for Space X rockets... with a side benefit of selling said hydrogen to the consumer to pay for it all. In advance of that, Tesla will be building an EV that will run on Hydrogen.
do you own any tesla stock?
Not personally. No
Hydrogen Hot Rod: ua-cam.com/video/RAEhhYqMEBE/v-deo.html
What a silly goose.
EV's certainly not the future. They are just for the early adopters, like buying a BetaMax VCR.
ALL the cupcakes 🧁🤣🤣🤣
b.t.w. here we have public transport that uses hydrogen.
Nah driving a Tesla changed with a nucliair power plant is useful.
No clue how i got here, but i hope after disliking it i will not get anymore of this "useless" stuff.
direct prodution on spoot you lie
What BS! How far can you drive with an EV? Hydrogen is a product which occurs naturally and for example Gold Hydrogen in South Australia has a huge deposit of natural hydrogen. The technology for vehicles is similar to ICE engines and does not rely on complicated fuel cell technology.
To be fair, hydrogen can make electricity in cars in two ways. Either it powers an ICE or it goes too a fuel cell.
@@MarcFresko
ICe method is only 50% efficiency what you would get from fuel cell, so basically you are losing half a range, which is huge non starter.
@BeatOdermatt
There are 0 hydrogen on earth in its pure form, 100% of it is bonded to something else, like oxygen molecule which results in water. And being dependent on what Australia provides is just shifting one dependency to another... 100% of hydrogen needs to be produced.
And your "complicated" fuel cell technology is 2x the efficiency of ICE engines. How many do you think would want to pay 2x for fuel while running system which will have exponentially higher maintenance costs? HICE engines are non starter.
I suppose the answer is how far does your Hydrogen car take you?
@@Zripas That is wrong. I am sure that you haven't read anything about Gold Hydrogen, a company that has proven that large commercially available hydrogen can be extracted from underground resources at a fraction of the cost of other hydrogen alternatives. Why do you think that Bezos and Bill Gates invested Billions into hydrogen? Why do you think Toyota and other vehicle manufacturers support hydrogen vehicles?
petrol and diesel are still king
"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is a passing fad."
The nutjobs (and these people are brainwashed climate change catastrophists) think of the electric motor and the rest they put out of their minds somehow, through some sort of compartmentalization. Putting a tank of fuel in a car is just infinitely easier than building these huge batteries and then charging them up over and over. They really believe that "any day now" they'll have batteries that are as good as a volume of petroleum. They're fucking nuts.
What a silly goose.
How is your Hydrogen car going for you?