Time Team S14-E09 The Domesday Mill, Dotton Mill, Devon
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2013
- Dotton is a small hamlet in east Devon, close to the river Otter. In the Domesday Book, compiled around 1086, there is a record of there having been a mill there, to the value of five shillings. The last working mill in the village closed down in 1946, however, and in 1968 the building was ordered to be demolished by the local council because the wheel pit was regarded as a danger to children.
Maps spanning the past couple of hundred years show a range of buildings on the site, and identify the site as Dotton Mill. From the 16th century onwards there is a range of documents that also refer to a mill.
In this programme Time Team's objective was to excavate the remains of the building that was knocked down 40 years ago and to try to find evidence of any earlier mill buildings in the vicinity. They had three days in which to do it.
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I do love reader comments. These are all good ones, and not one is rude or obscene! Time Team is a lure for the pure of mind. To find and touch something made and used by a person two thousand years ago is a thrill. It shows me that we are all one.
There used to be another guy who posted the regular episodes plus all the specials, etc.. Unfortunately, there was a group of guys that only watched so they could find and tag every instance of down-shirt shots of the females or any camera shot of Bridget's butt. They fed off of each other and competed to find them first. It was so disgusting, the things they would say and the way they took professional women on the job and reduced them to sex objects for their pleasure. He on longer has the page up and I'm glad that crap was shut down but sad to lose access to the impossible to find episodes he had up.
I know a few years ago 8 was planning to move from usa to st oseff must be spelt wrong, in Essex. Of course while there for several weeks and having seen time team, I had to do a bit of field walking and much to my great joy I found a bit of square Roman stones… all learned from time team
Well if anybody makes a rude or obscene comment then Tony, Phil, Carenza, Mick (R.I.P.) and everyone else will be very disappointed, and no healthy, reasonable person could withstand that kind of guilt and regret. That'd be worse than disappointing your mom or your sweet, old grandma.
You got to love Phil! He's a die-hard archaeologist, he's amazing to watch.
M gdhse3 Stone the crows!
Yeah. Phil's great! I get a kick out of watching him.
Funny how opinions can differ, he's the least popular character on the show for me. Even more annoying than Tony can be.
I laughed as he picked on John.
Phil is the best part of the show .
Dec 2019 was here
This was definitely one of my favorite episodes of the entire series. It was just amazing how they all worked together to get such incredible results. That site was so historic and should have been preserved. I love when Tony actually picks up his spade and joins in the work. Phil is so amazing to watch. Lol. He really is a nut and inspiring at the same time. Miss Brigid is quite inspiring for different reasons. 😉 😆 Thanks so much for sharing these videos with us all!!! God bless you and your family, my friend!
Brigid IS a beautiful woman!
Amazing when they found out the boundary was drawn on the leet. That pretty much cracked the case and put the site into the 10th century. Of course the site of the original mill could have been anywhere along the leet. But the present site does seem a safe bet.
Thank you for uploading.
Phils' jean short shorts are something else
Absolutely terrific use of computer animation/ combining live action footage of Tony and the bald guy looking around the mill towards the end. So well done.
Celto Loco It's pretty neat that they do it. I just hope they didn't go overboard with it. I like looking at Victor's drawings more than the CGI. I guess I'll find out as I progress through the rest of the series.
Yeah, I looked him up on Amazon shortly after finding this show, just for the fun of it. He has several books out. Wish I could justify spending the money.
I'm watching the series in chronological order and it's so interesting to see the evolution of the CGI as it goes along. But nothing can substitute for the human element in Victor's drawings.
What a shame it was torn down. It seems like today some young family would have bought the place and set up some off grid life style .
Hellen has the nicest smile. What a sweetheart.
She is. I love the way she speaks to children when she's explaining things, riding herd on them while they're cleaning finds or digging, and things like that. She really knows how to engage the young'uns.
One of the best episodes.
I am always amazed about the amount of expertise these people must have: At 25:40 you see the pottery expert picking up a small shard and immediately identifies it as Staffordshire pottery from the early 19th century. Think of the wealth of data he must have in his head to make that quick assessment.
A leat (also lete or leet, or millstream) is the name, common in the south and west of England and in Wales (Lade in Scotland), for an artificial watercourse or aqueduct dug into the ground, especially one supplying water to a watermill or its mill pond
I think we in US call that a mill race and the part below the mill is a tail race.
First time I've heard Phil yell "stone the crows" when he's happy instead of frustrated.
It's usually used as an exclamation of surprise or excitement.
36:13 Stewart: "who's blowing a trumpet?"
I know, it's great..good editing...
Stewart is my favorite.
Time team is Phil! So funny
"What's that, girl? Trouble at the old mill? Smugglers? Jeepers, we have to run and tell pop!"
So...my family came from England in the 17th century and later lived near a place called Somerset in Virginia....they also operated a mill. I need to do some more research!
Wheel pit is a dangerous thing all right - my great-great-grandfather was a miller, and that's exactly how he died, i.e. falling in one, leaving behind a widow with 11 kids, nine girls and two boys, one of which never reached adult age, but all the others did, and all the ladies lived well into their 80s.
I love that one pair of denim short shorts Phil seems to wear for the entirety of the warmer months 😂
You wouldn’t love them if you’d ever dug on a site with him and looked up from your trench to see his bum in your face. It scars you for life!
Alia Adele not to mention the sweater and the wooly hat he wears for the colder months.🤓
I dunno, looks like he has a pretty nice bum!
It wasn't just one pair of shorts. He wore his jeans until the knees wore out and then cut them off. He is a very practical man. If you were working in those trenches all day in hot weather, you would want to be comfortable and that is why Phil wears shorts.
@@ThePawsOfDeception That depends on when. In his younger days he had a rather nice bum. When he was in Time Signs and the first years of Time Team Phil was a damn good looking man. I am not the only woman who thinks that or enjoys watching Phil strut his stuff in those shorts.
I was part of a dig at a mill when I was a child in the 1980s. been the smallest I was responcable for excavating iunder a burried archway as no one else could fitas best I could trying to take it off layer by layer after a full weekend could just fit right under with my hard hat. Great fun allowed to get mucky doing something no one else could with two guys at my feet to remove the buckets. Also there incase something went wrong they could pull me out by my feet the extent of health and safety and I loved it. That one half of the dig and trech revolved around others emptying my bucket for the spoil heap and lifting me in and out was so happy when I reached the back. Best summer ever I was gutted when I'd made it big enough for an adult to get in been a kid didn't realise work I was doing was all so an adult could get in and take over. I was 8 never be allowed now best time of my life. Loved the smell of the dig. I liked cleaning areas after that that where delicate no trowel just a paint brush. also preping areas for photos. brought so many memories back from my childhood.
The fact you were a child in the 1980s is evident from the fact you can't spell responsible. Damn I hate what's happened to education in this country.
That's all?!? Complaining about education?!?
What a wonderful experience!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
@alanrtment porter Ouch! that's harsh!
@@minimaker5600
Ain't it just!!
I always think it sad that fully understandable posts get lambasted for typos. They're usually rushed so any criticism is irrelevant. If the typos result in confusion the post should be clarified, that's all!
Thank for sharing your childhood experience.
Interestingly, there is no road crossing the Otter now only the ford.
greased or oiled paper, was, an early form, of glass substitute
It was still widely used in the US during the 19th century west of the Appalachian Mountains. Glass was an expensive article to ship.
The dirt is so beautifully red here. Reminiscent of home for me, and I have the remains of the water channel and dam to a very old watermill down the street! The Chinese may believe it inauspicious to live where the ground is red because digging or ploughing makes the 'dragon' (the earth) bleed, but every place I've ever lived the earth was red. :)
Its amazing what TT got done in less than a week!
Mick even has striped socks! LOL
And stripey gloves, and a hat. Every article appears to have been hand-knitted.
According to the Time Team wiki, after the pilot was shot, the chief editor told Mick he looked 'drab' and 'needed to add in some color' if the show got picked up. Mick found the gaudiest, colorful, visually distracting sweater he could and wore it to filming, as a joke, thinking he'd be told to take it off. Instead, he was told that it was 'perfect'. So he continued to wear it ironically, and also took to wearing colored socks and gaudy knit-caps when weather required. Which became his default 'look'.
So it was not his fashion sense, but more of a protest or just him trolling the production staff. It's the clashing of two worlds, on the one hand you had an English academic with their typically unassuming, neutral style of jeans and muddy boots clashing with the t.v. mentality of flash, sparkles and insane focus on personal appearance.
a few episodes ago he had an also colorful striped umbrella!
30:08 twinsies with green shirts and blue hats hats
Lol I noticed that
a lot of crows stoned in this vid :)
first episode I"ve seen poor Matt get punked,...little did he know what was in store for the future. LOL
I think he is a experimental archaeologist in training. hes done the roman soldier thing, and a bunch of other stuff...
An earlier episode turned him into a lay brother. Even had him flagellating himself
And when they excavated a Victorian prison, they made Matt a prisoner - breaking up Rick's, among other things.
@@irajayrosen4792 oh noooo, did he get extra time for the ricks? ^_^
@@ellicooper2323 Oops - rocks
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Phil is the Sherlock Holmes of archaeology !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like those computer graphics! Soon we could have aviators doing the digging!
Poor, good natured Matt 😂😘
amazing episode , but they should have continued digging up the old mill that was described in the doomsday book.
The onus on them is to protect the archaeology as much as possible. If they have to strip any more the later archaeology which is still at least 200 years old will be destroyed. Maybe in the future they will have devices which will be able to look at all the periods of archaeology with minimal damage. I am open to correction but I think if they had to dig any deeper they would compromise their safety. On earlier episodes Mike Aston had come onto the set with broken limbs twice. These archaeologists seem to work like heavy labourers at times.
@@lameesahmad9166 I understand the idea of preserving archaeology for the future, but honestly, "Because possibly in the future......" isn't as good of a reason as it initially sounds. There has been recent archaeology on protected sites that have discovered things that had rotted or almost rotted/eroded/been dissolved buy soil acidity/etc. etc. during the time it was protected. If digging had been allowed those artifacts would, in all likelihood, be preserved and in museums right now, but instead they were left in the ground and are now gone or so far gone they are useless as artifacts. We have extremely rigorous rules and regulations on digging archaeology that we can today get an extremely accurate picture of what was there using today's techniques at the same time preserving anything still surviving for future generations to look over. Maybe those future archaeologists will figure out things that today's archaeologists couldn't figure out, maybe today's archaeologists have it all figured out, but they won't ever get that chance if things are left in the ground to rot away.
@@Skyfire_The_Goth Thank you for that input. All the best
And sometimes leaving it where it's survived for hundreds or thousands of years is best (think those Roman boats at the mouth of the Rhine TT helped on). Think of those inestimable losses in Brazil's national museum that went up in flames last year. Think of so much blasted/stolen/mutilated away recently in Iraq, Syria, etc. Sometimes choosing your poison isn't any better than having it shoved down your throat. Allez savoir.
I swear, if i menage to become a historian, i want to be like Phil Harding!
+1234kalmar And talk like a pirate?
Barnaby ap Robert That's my number one priority. He is such an awesome guy!
thats the good old Wiltshire accent and ill have you know that we're pirates, that's the Aristolians lol :D
ooh aargh
You mean manage? Don’t think ménage works here lmao
Too bad they didn't take more photos of the mill, especially interior shots, before tearing it down.
yep its called progress, not vandalism
abusively, W47
@@WOLFROY47 vandalism by any other name, is same loss...
My grandfather died in a sawmill when his tie caught on the belt. Work used to be a lot more dangerous.
How unfortunate. I had a roommate that became a police officer. Part of his uniform was a clip-on tie. I asked why clip-on and he said that if there was a struggle with a perpetrator, and the tie was grabbed, a clip-on would break off, whereas a "normal" tie could possibly be used to strangle him. Makes sense in that respect.
My great grandfather was lucky enough to lose only his left arm to his (homemade) sawmill, up in the woods of northern Minnesota, USA.
Agricultural work is still very dangerous. People get killed by tractors tipping over, or getting caught in hay balers, etc all the time.
The mill grit soon gave you toothache!
Not only that, but wore away your teeth.
28:16 - WOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!
I would like to think they wouldn't tear down such a building these days......
John in the last century more than 1500 stately homes were demolished. My family home only survived because my grandfather was too tight to let my grandmother "renovate". In the sixties people would have knocked down a small building like this (in their thousands) without a moments thought. search "Destruction of country houses in 20th-century Britain" it will make you cry.
Now however, you will be pleased to know, they have gone to the other extreme, You can't even change a light bulb without asking English Heritage for permission.
Heritage listing is like a millstone.
Helga Anderson Unfortunately "historic preservation" is a meaningless term to most developers. I realize we cannot save everything but once history is demolished it cannot be put back. Something so well built it has lasted several hundred plus years knocked down to make way for a parking lot. Sad.
some hope, but, time team, would say, yeah, knock it down, so that we, can come along, and dig it up later ? and, for an estate agent, the rarer they are, the more their worth
I agree. My town lost one of its most important historical buildings in the 60's. a large manor house which had already been given to the council and turned into an art gallery,library and museum. Yet it was still pulled down. As for the industrial buildings, my town used to be home to around 30 cotton and silk spinning mills, now only 6 survive, only 4 of them in the same way they were before the 60's, and only 1 with its full height chimney. I do (sadly) admit that we cant keep everything... but i do believe that the energy that went into building these buildings should be re-harnessed and the buildings converted were possible rather then spening far more time,energy and money in knocking it down and building a new building which is most likley to be far less appealing in looks than the original building was.
It is brilliant seeing old buildings restored though and i wish the very best to everyone involved in that noble task and to everyone watching this noble programe! long live the time team! :)
This mill seems to have been knocked down with no reuse in mind. Doubly distressing. Perhaps considered a hazard, or somebody was delusional in thinking a developer was going to enrich them because of a fancy(ful) project they'dhave for out there in podunk land.
What are these wrist bands I see them wearing on certain shows? They are like a hospital bracelet. But don't see it on all of the shows.
Vince White Purely a guess, but I think the people wearing them are guests to the dig site, and had to sign a liability waiver, get a wrist band before they are allowed to enter the dig site.
@@lindahart6049 Spot on. I had to do the same during season 5, sign a waiver and you get your band and gear (shirt, etc). Quite a bit of fun though, I stood the whole 3 days.
@@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft - What episode?
@@thysonsacclaim ep. 6, Aston Eyre, Shropshire (where I grew up). Fond memories, that 😄
@@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft Lucky you!
Nice scene there at 36:12.
That piece of wood Phil found at the end - no dendrochonology?
you would need a dam, to store enough water, to give it more force, when hitting the wheel, and for the sluice, that controls the amount of water, let through, for, an efficient system
@alanrtment porter in electrical terms, the pond is more of a capacitor, than it is a 'battery'. Meaning that you get a consistent output not just through the seasons, but through the day. rivers close to the ocean will experience back-ups at high-tide which would divert a massive amount of water down the leet, and could even back up your outflow. This 'could' have been achieved with sluices, but on particularly heavy days, the sluice may not be enough. And without a way to restrict and control the flow of water, the wheel could spin faster than it should and damage the stones, or gearing, or shake the building violently since the wheel would not be balanced. A pond between your inflow and the mill acting as a reservoir solves most of those problems as in periods of heavy flow or rains, allows you displace most of that energy over a very large area, and save it for dryer times. And always have enough water to turn the wheel at the most efficient rate. The only problem a pond doesn't help with is outflow back up.
The domesday book must have cost a bit to complete.
Since it was there to help with taxation, it was very likely well worth it.
Romans had mules turn grinding wheel. Example in pompey
"The initial invention of the watermill appears to have occurred in the hellenized eastern Mediterranean in the wake of the conquests of Alexander the Great and the rise of Hellenistic science and technology.[5] In the subsequent Roman era, the use of water-power was diversified and different types of watermills were introduced. These include all three variants of the vertical water wheel as well as the horizontal water wheel.[6] Apart from its main use in grinding flour, water-power was also applied to pounding grain,[7] crushing ore,[8] sawing stones[9] and possibly fulling and bellows for iron furnaces.[10]"
The most impatient man in all of England.
Indeed it did.
First aired March 10, 2007.
I wonder if Stewart ever uses the word “goyt” instead of “leet.” The water for a fulling mill in South Yorkshire arrived at the wheel via a goyt. Maybe this is just a local West Riding word.
Phill,,,,, that is "FILL" underneath the concrete pour, to fill the hole for the concrete to lay on. the finished product. just sayin
Watching at 38.40 I was thinking the leat should have a kink in it not found on the animated overlay. But is there not a hint of that in the actual topography? Look here photos.app.goo.gl/EvElPMoGR8uOci053
The undershot wheel actually has the BEST efficiency, though the least power for a certain size. It does take a lot of water with little head. So if you only have little flow available it's easier to get sufficient power with more head and an overshot wheel. Problem with all the wheel designs where the water hits high up: somewhere on the lower part of the arc water falls out of the chamber and falls down without doing any work.
No, I'm not. He uses the term "efficiency" not in the way it's defined. What he means to say is that it's the least powerful design for a certain amount of flow. Efficiency is defined as which design uses the energy of the water (flow x head) to the highest percentage. And that is the undershot. (Though the design he shows in his illustration is very poor. The bottom of the channel is supposed to hug the outer perimeter of the wheel closely in an arc, to form chambers with the paddles. To do this right takes quite bit of precision. It's easier to get the overshot right, as all you have to do there is to form watertight chambers in the wheel itself.)
Ask an actual engineering resource and not a book on high school physics, and it will tell you the same thing. I did a double take as well when we were taught that at uni, but when you think it through it makes perfect sense.
Apparently you didn't build the undershot very well, is all I'll say to that.
+Milander just milander Hey!! You just bunched up a serious argumentation based in physics with flat-earthers. Them's fighting words. I take that as slander!
I maintain that you built your undershot sloppily, and you can't convince me otherwise.
whats wrong with, an Archimedes spiral, that sits in the water ? and works with the flow ?
Hotelpapa - you say its low efficiency but it depends on the size of the bucket in relation to the water flow. In fact they are efficient.
head is more important over all and the ratio of the stream wheel and actual grinding surfaces. in other words if you have more water than needed whos cares about the efficiency, as long as it turns things enough. The wheel needs to be wider than the flow.
Uh, Stewart... *points* Your, uh, collar...
He always wears it popped.
Archeologists love jorts apparently.
Ever notice how Phil Harding doesn't have leg hair? I wonder if he does competitive swimming...
He's a ginger, its pale. Plus Gingers are magical you know.
@@scarletfluerr They are indeed! Especially the blue eyed ones with Celtic blood like our Phil.
'End of day one, and we're halfway to doomsday.' Tony just after 14 minutes
*_Domesday._*
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 Regardless of how it was spelled I'm pretty sure the newly-Norman Saxons thought it to mean Doomsday. King David's census for instance being considered a sin against God, resulting in the death of many Israelites foremost on their minds, and the coming end of the world which they expected at any minute. Not to mention their probable ire at it being used as a record used for taxation.
@@spacewater7
It did mean _doomsday_ in *Middle English.* Its _proper_ name was *Liber de Wintonia (Book of Winchester)* but in the 12th century it became known as the *_Domesday Book._*
Is it just me or does Dick Strawbridge look like the last miller?
Where was this episode completed? ua-cam.com/video/z6jzP8--WVQ/v-deo.html
I am assuming when you say corn, you mean wheat and not what we North Americans call corn.
when did helen become a field archaeologist, shes, a small finds researcher ?
WOLFROY47
wow, that was way out of line for a response. Sorry Leopararouen was so shitty. Helen got into archaeology because of Mick. She is trained as an archaeologist and has training in Anglo-Saxon grave sites. This is her wiki page explaining it all.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Geake
I never did understand why they never looked at the Domesday Book for a lot of their digs? Especially the Roman villas. Were they still there in 1066? Domesday book would have told them.....It doesn't make any sense?
The villas weren't there... been gone for a while. But the land probably stayed in use. And they did look in the documents a lot, including Domesday.
Why does poor Matt always get Flim Flamed into the sh*t jobs? He needs to do a little asking why before saying OK!
In one of the episodes, can't remember which one, they said he is training to be an 'experimental archaeologist' so the things they have him do would be good for that. Off-camera he probably volunteers. He doesn't look distressed when they tell him what he's going to be doing.
Yeah but we got to see his butt when he was a Roman soldier.
@@lisakaz35 Since I am the WORST of all types of people on the planet (straight, single, older, American, white male) the fact we got to "see his Roman butt" held no interest for me. Would you like to go sail the world with me? I will let you look at any ass ya want. Since according to my ex, I am the biggest of the well known "jack" strain of asses, I am certain you will see many along the way. I hear they are everywhere ya go, so it would behoove you to be seen with the largest of the breed. Just sayin.
@@lisakaz35 And a cute one it was!
@@jayfigg7981 Saying... what? Who cares? How does seeing his butt become about you? Seems like insecurity. Also she never said "his Roman butt" so don't put it in quotes. She said "we got to see his butt when he was a Roman soldier".
Why do they pronounce it doomsday and then write it Domesday?
the pronounciation is correct, but it meant tax day or more literally, "records day" or "tome's day" . "O" went to "oo" in a lot of old germanic languages.
@@raquellofstedt9713 I often wondered about that. Otherwise "doomsday" sounds rather threatening.
They keep talking about grinding corn. I thought corn didn't reach Europe until after Columbus.
What you're thinking of is called maize in England.
@@Hessenkittel I understand, but how could they be talking about grinding corn/maize if it didn't arrive in Europe until after Columbus in 1492, well after the Domesday Book. What did the mill grind before that?
'Corn' in England refers to grain, most usually wheat, but also possibly rye or barley. The mill has been grinding wheat all along, never corn in the American sense. It's just that the word corn is usually applied to the most important kind of grain in the region, hence Americans think of corn as the "Indian corn" or maize, a Scotsman for example might think of oats, in England it tends to mean wheat.
@@Hessenkittel Thanks for the info. Makes sense now.
@@stischer47 Corn!
It's so refreshing to see beautiful flowers amongst all those old thorn bushes.
In case you don't understand that it's nice and enjoyable to see beautiful women amongst all those thorny old buggers.
What is this Doomsday you talk about.
Doomsdaybook is the investigation for taxation, done by William the conqueror, after he conquerd England in 1066.
Every land, churches and every farm or industry is written down. Very nice historic.
@@jacquelinevanderkooij4301 *_Domesday Book_* actually. 🙃
13:10 Gets into ditch.. puts on hard hat.. Why?
Because Helen is working at the base of the trench, therefore is below ground level and below the loose spoil. Health and Safety in the work place, Keith!
They have to wear the hard hats whenever the mechanical diggers are being used.
I don't understand why people are tearing down history like the old mill. That sounds like a very American thing to do.
A lot of 'old cultures' wanted to 'modernize' in the 60's. Things had stagnated for a long time because of the wars etc and America set everyone dreaming of middle class riches. Many mistakes were made, like here, and such as the freeway(motorway/autoroute) that Lyon in France put right smack dab down the middle of their ancient city. And now first class greed and misguided ideas of progress are making them worse (see Spain..etc etc etc).
According to the intro blurb above, it was ordered demolished because it was a hazard. Remember too, 18th century buildings are 2 a penny in England, so it probably wasn't considered significant.
"however, and in 1968 the building was ordered to be demolished by the local council because the wheel pit was regarded as a danger to children." literally from the header of the video.
p.s. those lights in the sky at night are called stars... the really really big one is called the moon. Just taking a stab that you may also have been confused by them.
30:03 Yay, muffin-top!
+Ray Crowell Succulent is succulent.
You hear that ladies? Don't be so hungup about your curves and jiggles - these are naturally appealing to most normal men.
That said - ahem, we're in a professional work environment here. Keep it to yourselves, Messieurs. Though as you haven't , permit me to remark on certain young archeologists' fine broad shoulders , small waists and comely features... ;)
22:56 Those legs on Helen 😍
U need a girlfriend!
@@Totaldane oh the white knight rises!
CG as a replacement for quality ?
Tony, they werent grinding corn until the new world was discovered
corn (n.1)
"grain," Old English corn "single seed of a cereal plant; seeds of cereal plants generally; plants which produce corn when growing in the field," from Proto-Germanic *kurnam "small seed" (source also of Old Frisian and Old Saxon korn "grain," Middle Dutch coren, German Korn, Old Norse korn, Gothic kaurn), from PIE root *gre-no- "grain."
The sense of the Old English word was "grain with the seed still in" (as in barleycorn) rather than a particular plant. Locally understood to denote the leading crop of a district. It has been restricted to the indigenous "maize" in America (c. 1600, originally Indian corn, but the adjective was dropped), usually "wheat" in England, "oats" in Scotland and Ireland, while Korn means "rye" in parts of Germany.
@@alcidae then he should say grain, there is another plant called corn and Old English is just that...old
@@Frank-dv4zu Maize isn't called corn there, wheat is - both historically and in modern times. The point is that usage and meaning changes based on region. His usage is correct for his location, and is the word that the people in that location would historically have used. The only ambiguity is caused by ignorance.
@@alcidae yeah but he doesnt say that, and he should, if the purpose is to educate, and i am pretty sure that is what the purpose of the program is.
@@Frank-dv4zu Did you get to the part of the program with interviews of locals who had seen the mill in their youth? They all used the term "corn" as well - that's just what they call wheat there, the common usage. It's a show made in the UK and targeted to that audience, to whom that is the standard regional usage - it's not in any way ambiguous or confusing except to those ignorant of this. There's no need to clarify.
I love this show, but it would be much more enjoyable without Tony's snarky commentary.
Tony Snark. Iron-age Man.
Sorry Stewart but I fast forward past your parts.
Like all simpletons.
Do you fast forward Mick, too? He wrote the book on landscape archaeology. Practically created the field. Shows how much you know.
Man, I love Stewart's contributions. I'll even forgive the popped collar because I find his observations of the landscape so interesting.
Like those computer graphics! Soon we could have aviators doing the digging!
Did you mean avatars?