Time Team S14-E12 The Abbey Habit, Poulton, Cheshire
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Poulton in Cheshire was once home to a small community of Cistercian monks, who founded an abbey on the banks of the river Dee on the Welsh border. After only 60 years, however, the monks grew tired of continued incursions from the Welsh and in 1214 they took up an invitation by Ranulf de Blundeville, earl of Chester and lord of Leek, to move to a new site just outside Leek, in Staffordshire, at Dieulacres Abbey.
The Poulton Research Project has been investigating the history of the abbey at Poulton since 1995, with some outstanding results. The project's discoveries have included a blocked-up medieval-stone staircase leading into the ground on a site named as 'Poulton Hall' on a 17th-century estate map, while 700 metres away an early chapel has been located that has so many burials that students in forensic archaeology are now trained on the site.
Could 'Poulton Hall' be the former abbey, later re-used as a monastic grange (an agricultural estate) and manor house by the Manley family, who are known to have lived there in the 15th and 16th centuries?
Time Team was asked for its help in piecing together the history of this monastic landscape.
Sometimes I rewatch these episodes just to see the gang...it's very comforting.
Same here... Over the past 5 years I have watched through from series 1 to the end twice, which is fun to do. I watch a couple episodes sporadically to get my fix every couple months though. For a while I was pretty obsessed with it, even ordering several used books by Tim Taylor. I was able to get them for about $2 each, shipping to the US included.
Me to. Late at night, it’s very comforting. I want to go to England and check out several areas that things were dug.
Donna Perez Can’t agree more !
Sometimes I just turn TT in to fall asleep to. I just love falling asleep to the English accents.
Me as well. Now that i'm over 60 & have mobility & strength issues i can't help but think about how much manual labor is involved. 😁 Never really thought about it when watching the first few seasons.
So many times in Time Team, Stuart is the hero.
After watching Time Team, I'm always tempted to think I would have loved to be an archaeologist. I think that what I'm really enjoying is watching people do what they love.
Agreed!
i share that sentiment; i am a psychotherapist, so i do psychological archaeology, so to speak ...have wanted to do physical archaeology my whole life ...love this show!
I'm in agreement word by word. Phil Harding is so enthusiastic and became my idol
From early age I wanted to get into archaeology. Alas, I didn’t have a head for science. Would have been happy to dig holes or fetch and carry, but .... well, my parents knew me too well 😂
I was an archaeologist, but unfortunately it pays so little, so you have to have an "ordinary" job to manage. Most of the time, it is cold, raining and muddy, and the only evidences of anything you find is layers of mud. 😉
I love this episode..... Helen's final cry, "No, No, come back; I've had enough now" is absolutely priceless :D
Adore Mick's enthusiasm and dedication. RIP to an amazing, interesting guy. Watching Mick, Stewart, and Phil working with the "archaic apparatus" was fun and would have enjoyed seeing more of that. Love the rest of the team, too. They're all great!
Every time I hear about a "lost" site/town (etc) it makes me chuckle. Those things are right where someone left them. They weren't lost ... they were forgotten, until somebody trips over them one day 😁
Thank you Reijer for all your hard work. Being in the States it is not possible to get this show from Chanel 4. You are wonderful, and again, thank you.
Seconded by another from the States. ^-^
LadyGunfighter45 Tony has a new archaeology project called walking the Thames it began 9/19 americans can view the series free by visiting the website. Just search tony Robinson walking the Thames.
Agreed from Illinois. Watching ALL the episodes present day 6-8-2021
Absolutely love everyone, but Stewart and Phil take the cake.
The grange field is here:
53°07'33.3"N 2°53'17.7"W
The chapel field is here:
53°07'09.0"N 2°53'32.0"W
And the folks digging it, the Poulton Research Project
is HQ'ed at RAF Poulton, the WW2 Hawker Hurricane training field right next door, here:
53°07'26.8"N 2°53'37.7"W
And the field they stuck Helen with is here:
53°07'05.9"N 2°53'27.6"W
(which has huge parch marks and is likely the site of what they were looking for)
If you zoom out on Google Earth you can see some interesting things they didn't observe.
The section of land where that last supposed abbey field is located is on a tongue of land that is part of Wales. And there are field boundaries that seem to radiate out from that field.
If you zoom in close enough on the real abbey field you can just make out a stooped figure in a square pit. Helen is still digging.
@@ancilodon ,😂😂😂and probably Phil with his trowel looking for some flint!🥀🥀🥀
Stewart and Phil, my two favorites!
8:07 I already loved Time Team, but the Terry Gilliam-esque animation here is smashingly brilliant.
And now for something completely different....
Time Team takes the history of these buildings and brings them back to life. Love this show. K
Great episode, even though they missed their main target. It shows how theories must change to fit the evidence, even more than most episodes.
Loving me some Phil ☺️ His enthusiasm is delightful 👍
Just wanting to add that Mick is the calm in the storm, I could follow a leader like him. Not pushy, listens and guides the rest of the rabble. WE NEED MORE TIME !!!
Oh yes we all say that, but histories dust doesn't care 😊
This one deserves a revisit...
Great episode thank you for posting it
Love the Monty Python-esque animations near the beginning.
Yes that's hilarious. The scene from the holy grail was funny too.
One thing that is rather important for a lot of viewers remember is that all these graves have been de-sanctified, meaning if they were still on holy ground they would not be allowed to dig them up,. Additionally, to say that the archaeologists have no business digging them up is the same as saying the whole of Europe has no business touching graves in cemeteries since it's the occupants (and their descendants) beliefs they need to be there in order to be resurrected again. Not true. If that were the case, then all those in charnel houses are as damned as those buried outside of holy ground.
You did not make any sense. Did the people put them in the ground with the expectation that people in the future can dig them up and treat them as objects of curiosity? I doubt it. They laid them to rest with the expectation they would not be disturbed,
So what is your point Tom? Those people have been dead for hundreds of years, they were buried by people who have also been dead for hundreds of years, in fact everyone that had anything to do with the people buried there have been dead hundreds of years. Are you seriously suggesting digging them up is somehow going to do some kind of harm to anyone today? There is no one there to harm, those people are nothing more now than a bunch of calcium sticks (bones) and bits of enamel (teeth), and the people that knew them are also a bunch of calcium sticks and bits of enamel. I mean if they were so damned important why would they have been forgotten about and the land left to ruin and then to be pasture/fields? Now I'm going to guess, and correct me if I'm wrong here, you're objecting because they are early Christians and you are also a Christian so you feel some kind of slight at this for religious reasons. Are you also getting upset at say ancient Egyptian or Mayan tombs being opened and all the stuff, bodies included, being carted out to museums and such for study? If not you might want to step back and re-examine yourself in this because that would be very hypocritical of you to get upset over Christian burials being disturbed but not other burials.
What Nicola and Leopararouen are saying is that Christians routinely dig up older graves and put the remains in charnel houses and catacombs. So they too are disturbing graves, and sanctified ones at that. How is that any different to an archeologist digging them up and storing them in museums? Either way the graves are disturbed and bones housed respectfully.
luckely the majority of scientist and people in the west do not beleive in these bronze age myths and other religious stuff so we can truelly progress without being stuck in barbaric bronze age cults.
In a sense they did assume they would be disturbed. Many cemeteries have been in continual use for over 500 years, how do you think they still have land to use?
I like this episode because it shows how Time team was meant to be,or how Mick intended it to be.reading the landscape.
if you watch 'Time Signs'( the predecessor ot TT),you will see it.IMO
I've dug here at the medieval cemetery twice and I loved it. Would be great to go back.
Me too. It's a fascinating site and a great place to learn archaeological skills in a relaxed environment.
@@georgedorn1022 Are they still excavating the site? Can you post an update on what else they found or even better, pictures!! Are they going to deem it a Historical Heritage site and continue to excavate it? I would love to go and help!🥀🥀🥀😎⛏⛏⛏
@@valeriejohnson5283 Yes they are, although obviously events of the past year have disrupted their normal field school programme. They have a website,
www.poultonresearchproject.co.uk/
and also a Facebook page that will be able to provide far more up to date information than I can.
After watching Time Team I really got inspired to do yard work. Ha. Ha. Ha
I would of loved to see them do a special on Richard the 3rd. I know he was found in September of 2011 or 2012 I think? And time team seemed to have stopped filming after 2012. it would of been cool to see them help with that and have Phil find Richard with those short shorts on. I can hear Phil now saying "Stones of Crows" or maybe it's Stone of Crows.
Nah. Oooh aaaar 'Stone the crows'.
They were asked to do the initial dig, but they declined, because they were skeptical that there was anything there. Bet they kicked themselves after!
Mike Emery - young Ozzy Osbourne? The shades & haiy are spot on!
I thought more Getty Lee from rush my self 😊
another hippie on the field! Love this series. Does anyone remember the episode where they remodelled a skull buried in the garden and it resembled the current owner? There was a big hand involved - gran-main or something french
I love the way they pronounce the diphthong in "medi-eeeval"
and "we're stood" instead of "standing" sounds quaint
Proper diction. Good to hear it.
And sometimes they are the Out-of-Time Team. I liked the episode or two where they revisited a site they had previously worked. I forget which (bad memory).
Turkdean and Athelney.
@@Sapharone - don't forget Much Wenlock
thank you so much for these videos. i have watched them all now, and even though the roman digs are my favorites, and the last two seasons my least favorites, they are all good. i love Mick, Stewart and Helen the best. i would include Phil but I just can watch him in those shorts. 😀
Janet Preble; Phil and his shovel are my favorites. I remind you of the time all of their equipment was stolen except his shovel, he sleeps with it under his bed. :-) Please, don't get me wrong, I like them all and learn something from each of them.
Love Phil and his shorts. Recently found a photo of Phil in a little pair of swim trunks. Ample proof those shorts cover a lot more Phil than y'all think. Very interesting.
The monks were given the abbey in 1137? King Steven. It's cool shows even right before anarchy people were not worried about preparing for 20 years of civil war but instead making monasteries. Only lasted 60 years. So to 1197 right before lionheart died.
3:35 They brought Ozzy with them on this one.
I'm sorry..I see Ozzy... Onward Christian Soldiers!!
1:37 lolll @ stewart on that bike.
Oh Phil so cool in ye right shorts
So what happens to the skeletons they dig up? Do they eventually get re-interred or do they just end up in boxes in some storeroom somewhere for later study?
the remains are now sent to LJMU for the students to study
That depends on the situation, they have dug up bodies and re-interred them in a cemetery that caters to the belief of the dead person, but that is usually at the request of land owners or the church the property used to belong to. Usually they do end up going to museums and such for study to see what kind of info can be determined about the living conditions of the area at the time they lived etc.
They make soup from them...
They have said on previous shows that they re bury the bodies after they have been studied.
How ironic, the church evicting someone.
3:15 it never occurred to me that Mick is shaped, not like Homer Simpson, but Chief Wiggam.
@10:47 I could hear my drafting teacher yelling 'Pull not Push, it's called drawing for a reason!'
Heh … Bringing some historical detail to cover these bare stones: You must remember, Tony; the Cistercians had a rather nasty reputation … for forcibly removing people to enforce the (?monastic) seclusion they wanted.
(Please forgive periphrase: have iatrogenic memory damage.)
they need to release a time team music CD .
'Ere ya go, mate... soundcloud.com/smallroom/sets/time-team-incidental-music
@@surfnsarangi Very cool, thanks muchly. 👍
Mick, we hardly knew ye.
And yet we knew thee and loved thee well. Love is a smoke and is made with the fume of sighs.
Mike's map had the word Field misspelled in big letters. Wonder if he noticed before handing it to Time TEAM?
Mick resplendent in his new hat. He`s keeping it very clean!
Phil? In new hat
Pobyl e' cwm, what Mick said, people of the valley, sorry for the typo.
Mick's little joke. And breaking the unwritten rule that you don't mention a show made by a rival broadcaster, in this case, BBC Wales.
Love u Helen geake😘
Love everything about this show, but I promise you, as an avid rider, no stirrup would bow up into the riders foot. It would be excruciating. More likely, it was wider and flat, possibly wrapped in leather.
Stewart set tony straight
I like how Stewart Ainsworth wears his collar up like Elvis did. Notice his blue suede shoes. Be careful not to step on them! hahaha
The monks "evicted" the local people to scrounge or die because they wanted the land. I guess Henry the VIII was right to get rid of them!
You ‘gotta love the Brits. They love to celebrate, relax, and socialize in their pubs. In from US. I don’t understand how they’re not constantly getting DUI’s driving as they’re leaving the pubs. I live in the states, and the cops are analyzing every aspect of your driving. They are hypervigilant in finding anyone suspected of a slight offense. I don’t drink at all, so I don’t know how much alcohol is allowed to have in your system. Probably very little.However, there have been hundreds of thousands of people killed by drunk drivers. You have to draw the line at some point .
Designated driver you know the sober friend or taxi.
I'm from the USA too,walk or get a ride has always been my rules.
Plane table and alidade...I know them well
Is that local archaeologist Mike Ozzy Osbourne's brother?
thats ozzies brother and when he goes out at night he looks up to the sky and bark at the moon
We are not sure. He did bite the head off of a pigeon, though, so we suspect he is related in some manner
No, but he IS the adopted brother of Ralph Fiennes...
Can't help but chuckle at so many of the commenters all hot & bothered about archaeologists in shorts and/or "revealing" tank tops. "No sex, please, we're British." Real 20th century fossils
I think one of the biggest comebacks on said comments are for the fact that these are educated professional women who would be offended being sexualized while they work. It's the stuff of immature little boys.
@@scarletfluerr I think you're naive if you don't believe the camera angles and editing are all very deliberate.Just a second or two of flesh ups the 'feel' and the viewing figures.You could argue that there is less male flesh displayed.
@@ianrutherford878 There's one program in which Matt has to play the part of a Roman soldier for 24 hrs and we get a nice shot of his bare rear as he changes into his Roman uniform. That's the only time I've seen any male on the show sexualized.
Americans - “holy shit, this thingy is 200 years old!! IT’S PRECIOUS, DON’T TOUCHHHHH!!!”
Brits - “this is piece of whatever could be 900 years old? Lemme check by using my teeth!”
LOL, I adore this show, and seeing how you can’t swing a dead cat in the UK without hitting ancient ruins and finds.
Wow, Ozzy Osborne on Time Team.
Are there REALLY tall people? Or is everybody short? Jonathon is at least 1foot taller
I wonder what Biblical justification(s) the Cistercians found for shoving the peasants off the land. You'd think that they'd have had a problem getting that one past Jesus.
ancilodon exploiting people is found in the church throughout the ages. Now we have televangelists who will pray for you in exchange for a modest monthly payment.
Not too dissimilar to those medieval peddlers who sold indulgences.
Even in Christ’s own time, he overturned the tables of the corrupt in his temple. I dare say it is a human condition that will always be with us. I suppose the trick is diving (no pun intended) the real from the charlatan
Please remember that not all who call themselves Christian are. Paul wrote extensively about this in the epistles, warning believers to be aware of them. A true Christ-follower would love their neighbor as themselves. Most of English religious history is not about Christ-following individuals but people who claimed religion for political purposes.
@@JMeixsellcoming from a Paul don't trust what we say,that one select his own groups to claim please rember.
He was choosing what a true believer would be😊
Where is sandi ?
No C-14 dates from all those bones? (Not to mention life history data from the teeth?)
The bones weren´t from their part of the site and the locals may not have had the resources to get it done.
A show like the original TT will never be reproduced. A fantastically eclectic mob of brilliant archeologists, a doubting Thomas as the host and the whole group keeping their egos in their pockets. The new TT was doomed from the start.
Only because people will compare and complain to much to their own standards 😊
12:05 OK, short, stocky farmers. They're hobbits. Where's Frodo?
May have been dwarves. 😀
11.20 is it me or is Bridge struggling to keep the puppies in their kennel LOL
John Clark 👍
Oh look, the 12 year olds are up past their bedtime.
@@scarletfluerr every TT video has comments from arsehole men commenting on the women's physical appearance. so puerile.
i love it when they come across a buriel you cant beat a good stiff
Yet another Tony pun, "To see if their theory holds water." Lost on many I expect.
I do think that Tony and rest of time team are trying to teach people about history! But please but bodies back in their ground of rest!!!! Thank you 😢😢
They said on a previous episode that they rebury the bodies after they're done.
Bull.They are just bones.No resting involved.Rest is what living creatures do.
They're not needed any longer.
Phil what salon do you get your nails done at
Stratocaster and Fender Nail Salon.
Brigid's trench was drilled by the power auger
She's big
I wonder why Mick always got so excited about abbeys and chapels being an atheist?
+Hewho Laughslast A fair question, and I for one would like answered
Considering the vast number of former Abbeys and their historic and cultural importance in the UK, I am not surprised that an archaeologist would find the discovery of the ancient remnants of such places important it is interesting. Although, he does seem to have a fascination with monastic life, the fact he is an atheist has nothing to do with his professional and archaeological inquisitiveness.
+Hewho Laughslast He was asked that in an earlier episode and answered that it was because he was an atheist he found it fascinating the amount of energy, expense, and effort that people put into worship.
As an expert on Anglo-Saxon Britain that primary focus would be Christians but he was also fascinated by Neolithic, Bronze, and Iron Age worship as well.
Surveys have shown that atheists are frequently as Biblically well-read as Christians and more well-read about other religions.
I am an atheist and found the practice of religion in India, SE Asia fascinating because for most of the people there there is no differentiation between worship and life. I believe that for our Indo-European ancestors it was much the same.
In Mick's own words, he's fascinated by things he doesn't understand.
He who laughs last, I am a Muslim and I am intrigued by the effect people's belief system has on them.
Throughout history different cultures who did not follow the monotheistic belief in one god looked for answers in nature and the star systems. Out of their beliefs evolved probably the most beautiful poetry and stories ever told. These poems often (even though they were mostly wound around legends and myths) told stories about historical events which would otherwise not be known to us: This adds a great deal of value to these writings. I have enjoyed the videos 'Michael Wood - In search of Beowulf - UA-cam' and 'Time Team Special 4 (2000) - The Real King Arthur'. When you watch these videos, the archaeological digs the Time Team does in the Neolithic, Bronze Age and Iron Age really come alive and add flesh to the bones of the people of those times.
I am indebted to the Time Team for the revelation of how sophisticated the people were in the various eras which show that man did not evolve; man has always been intelligent. None more so than at the Monastic Abbeys and the farms and settlements within the vicinity of these establishments. To really appreciate the effect of the Abbeys influence over the peasant population and how the people's lives were intertwined with the Christian belief system you must watch the series 'The Tudor Monastery Farm' on youtube. The Abbeys not only taught the people about Christendom but they evolved people's ability and knowledge to progress exponentially in every field in the arts of science, metal work, building, farming, husbandry, literacy, glass work, health and ethics etc. The Abbeys molded every area of the peasant farmers life. When you watch the 'Tudor Monastery Farm' series you can get an idea of just how much Henry VIII's desolation and stripping of the monasteries and the consequent torture of the monks and Catholics traumatized the ordinary people in every way. It stripped them of their identity and left them desperate, starving and disease naturally took its toll culminating in many deaths.
Excavating an Abbey, (especially an unknown and unexplored Abbey) must have been really exciting To Mike Aston. He must have been very disappointed when they did not find such a site. Such a site and the surrounding area would be packed solid with almost every trade known to man at the time. Very exciting.
I am sad at the news of his death (albeit years before I started watching 'The Time Team') but that is the nature of this life. I am sure most monotheists are also sad that he was an atheist. But that was his choice. But what I find most offensive are the disrespectful comments others have made on this link about his demise. I am sure these people would be more than a little upset if they had been made about their own departed loved ones. Have a heart guys and gals.
Best wishes.
Love love Helen, what a hottie
+Terry Adams That flawless complexion, that sweet little bum! Love her in those short-shorts that she wears on hot weather digs!
screw Baywatch....chix with daisy dukes and killer brains...that's where it's at!
Too much of a Harry Potter look for me...
I'm sure she'd be very flattered to have her education and experience discarded to be turned into a sexual object for immature, unintelligent little boys to drool over.
The more I watch of these, the more I start to dislike Mick.
I can see how a down to earth view can bring one down.
I think how he admitting his mistakes he made refreshing 😊
Brigit oh Brigit
These volunteers should be wearing gloves id they are not used to digging.
mike Emery or OZZY .LOL
Wonder why they didn't date the skeletons before Time Team came.
their moms wouldn't let them date the archeologists
@@phoule76 😂😂😂 Good one!🥀🥀
the abbey and grange were first started by druids.
So.. we're looking for an abbey? OK. Let's dig up everything that has already been dug up years ago that isn't an abbey and bugger about with that instead...
Confusing. No?
lol keith all your comments on every show are critical lol
I find that whenever the Time Team excavate a potential site that SHOULD reveal a significant and truly awesome "find " it comes up empty. The Geophysic machines that they use to map out a site are mostly wrong. Yes, they find truly amazing archaeological pieces of pottery, jewelry, tools, coins, etc, but nothing that is so mind boggling that they excavate it for more than 3 days! I know that it is a series, but I would love updates if they continue to excavate sites. Why the heck do you log it, and then fill it back in. If a particular Society asked/invited you to come and excavate a site, and ESPECIALLY if you find human remains that they would give you a time limit. For example, come excavate this site, but you only have 6 months and it rains 4 months during the dig, they say tough shit, I have a schedule to keep to build this Mall and your out of time, not our problem we need to have a shopping mall, we BLOODY well don't need to know OUR(UK) History, shopping is so much more important. Never could understand that. I am fascinated by the history of the United kingdom and I never was until I started watching this series. Don't start bashing my post as I am just giving my opinion and am from the U.S. I am always trying to learn and understand history even at my 60+ years. You are never too old to learn😊🥀🥀⛏⛏⛏
Okay here's some more education for you. These are exploratory digs, they're not complete excavations. They frequently rebury or do not continue a dig because they are well aware how far archaeology has come in the last 50 years and how far it may yet go in the next 50. Why mess up something now that could be better excavated in 30 years?
@@scarletfluerr, your explanation makes no sense at all!! I know that the excavation sites are recorded and documented, but that does not mean the excavation site in 50 years will yield anything significantl if it is excavated NOW TO REVEAL ALL THERE IS TO KNOW! Why wait 50 more years AND come to the same conclusion?
@@valeriejohnson5283 it's about budgets, timelines, available skilled crews. When they open up an excavation for the show under that dramatic 3 day timeline, they can rarely "take everything out" and record it so they are buried gently for the future when someone has more time AND may have better techniques as the years go by. I do full block excavations here and they usually can take up to 6 weeks to 6 months to take out, record, analyze, produce reports.... In essence field archaeology is the act of destroying a site albeit in a way that utliizes the best up-to-date methodologies. The is no way most sites can be fully excavated in three days and the government wouldn't allow it for fear of losing data just to make a good show. All of Time Team's applications for excavation are (or were) posted online. They do a great job but yeah, the three days is added as a dramatic tool for the show... no one will watch "welcome to Day 36 and the excavation of Tudor toilets!
@@valeriejohnson5283 If the site is excavated in 50 years time, archaeological science will have moved on significantly and more will be understood than with today's science. Conclusions at that point may be similar or they may be very different. If the archaeologists of 50 years ago had had access to current DNA or isotope analysis, for example, we would probably know much more than we currently do about ancient populations.
Obviously, this leads to the argument that we should never excavate a site (unless unavoidable) because future scientific knowledge will always be superior...
OMG, whoever decided to use this crappy banjo music this season needs to be horse-whipped!
The Silver Fiend Banjo?
What videos have you been watching?
@10:35 banjo music. but I love it. its fun.
Benny Hill style ... blah.
Back when Time Team had THE MOST ANNOYING background music in television history....
it's prob. fine if only heard once a week, but bingeing these episodes, it does get old!
Mick is a curiosity. He’s not religious, but loves monastic archaeology. Go figure. I’m not religious and I usually refuse to watch anything that mentions religion or God. Insanity is contagious.
Insanity is common sanity is personally selective 😊
I must admit that I, partly, watch Time Team for the young women. Helen is especially attractive for me, and desirable. Cheers, BB. [Aussie in BC]
Yes because God forbid you appreciate a woman for her intelligence and capability.
I'm used to digging. I wear leather gloves. They protect the hands and keep out the dirt.
Oh tony 3 days of being annoying to the team
Nick tell tony to to get lost
I really hope they dug up all those beautiful tiles. I would have loved to have had a couple of them:) I always enjoy the episodes without the young dark haired brown eyed woman, don't remember her name, but I always feel like she has been told what to ask and is trying to look as if she is interested in the answer, and I have no idea why she added her to Time time, as she doesn't have any expertise on anything and seem to just be eye candy for the men and I find her annoying and would rather listen to Phil or one of the others.
Mary-Ann Ochota is actually an anthropologist, but yes I do believe she was added more for the eye candy than for anything she could contribute in her field.
Did nobody ever tell Phil how gay he looked in those awful cut-offs..?!!!!
But have you noticed when Phil says "I have pot" everyone comes running??
@@CreatingwithWinglessAngelI know I would - but then I´d come running just for a good look at Phil´s legs. All hail the cut-offs!
he always looks happy shorts or pants....unless you mean that as a fear filled insult of course...if thats the case, then grow up.
Why has good legs and it doesn't seem to interfere with the quality of his work.
guttersnipe He looks like the real man he is, unaffected by the need to conform to fashion.