How naltrexone might help with alcohol addiction
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- Naltrexone blocks the mu opioid receptor. By blocking that receptor, people don't get reward pathway activation from alcohol. As a result, people don't enjoy alcohol as much when they take naltrexone. That might lessen alcohol intake in some people.
Addiction is usually the result of people's difficult past. Whether the difficulties were trauma or some other mismatch of needs/environment; some people end up with the predicament of needing to numb their pain with alcohol. Naltrexone doesn't affect with alcohol's capacity to numb. So if someone is out to numb themselves naltrexone is not likely to be the solution. But if someone drinks more than they intend to because of the subtle effect of reward activation then naltrexone might be very helpful.
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I am in my third month of the Sinclair method and it has cut my alcohol consumption by half. I am becoming less and less interested in drinking as time goes on. This medication is a lifesaver!
Update: I am now into month 5 of TSM and I can’t believe the difference in my life! I have cut down drastically on my drinking. The crazy part is that I am not obsessed with drinking anymore. I have more alcohol free days than days I drink. When I do drink it is socially and I will only drink two glasses of wine and not 2-3 bottles! I don’t even worry about when my next drink will be. I no longer drink at home alone anymore. No more hidden bottles. I don’t have plans to completely quit drinking but I can see how it is possible as I can easily go weeks without drinking now. I will never drink without my pill. No more guilt or shame.
@@lpsglitterpaws8536 love this. its god damn expensive in the uk for the pills. but worth it in the end i hope. gotta pay £400 just for joining sinclair method then another £90 for 28 tablets. i wish i could of just got the tablets with out the £400 initiation lol
@@lpsglitterpaws8536update please!!
I’m 8(?) days in. It’s helping tremendously. The emotions are still there, but I’m learning to work through them rather than numb them out. It’s certainly not a “cheat”, because work still needs to be done. But it’s almost like if you’re half a mile out and someone throws you a life preserver. You still have to swim back to the boat; but now it seems doable.
That’s great!
Any downsides so far?
Good luck to you. I have found taking 25 mg in the evening makes me drink very slowly or very little. But you have to take the medicine!!! Sometimes I will break the pill in half and 12.5 mg might be enough. But my usual 8 beers turns into 1-2 beers. The trick is taking it. I have found I take it around 2 PM and it lasts thru the evening. It is astonishing when I order a beer in a restaurant and then, an hour later , I look down and half the beer is still there!!!!! amazing. Good luck to you.
I'm 3 weeks into TSM and Naltrexone and it's a damn miracle. Yes, I can enjoy a FEW cocktails in the evening and not want the whole damn bottle. It's given me my life back.
Do you stay on it for life? How has it been 2 months later?
@@newguy3588 it's only for 12 months one shot a month ok.
Exactly! I’ve been on it for about a month or so. Tonight I had a glass of wine. Didn’t even finish it! Last week I had about a glass and a half, and that was it! A year ago, I was drinking a pint of tequila and about two bottles of wine in a night! This has been damn near miraculous for me! Mind you, I recently completed about six months of therapy, and that definitely helped. But I seriously believe more needs to be shared about Naltrexone!
Side effects
Side effects ?
I enjoyed how you both touched on the root of addiction and went into Naltrexone being a solution to the symptom-- substance use-- but not a solution to the root problem for many-- pain and emotional wounds. Something that really stood out to me was when Jess pointed out how dealing with the symptom but not the root is how many people find themselves in and out of rehab. Having tried to be sober multiple times myself, sobriety didn't "click" or "work" until I was willing to honestly look at myself and my wounds without using the panacea of substances as a crutch when the introspection hurt. That, coupled with learning new behaviors to respond to signals that previously led to substance use, is how I've been able to stay away from substances for over 18 months now. Y'all beautifully explained this concept in a quick, engaging video.
how did you manage to stay sober for 18 months?, did therapy help, was it you own will?, did naltrexone help, and how long did you keep it for ?, thank you in advance for your answer
@sarahdouglass6309
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Most people think alcohol addiction is caused by trauma or even mini-traumas in life. Some are, no doubt but IMO, alcohol is just highly addictive, especially to 15% of the population. We all used it as teenagers - for fun and because everyone is doing it, and it's legal and you are expected to drink like everyone else (peer pressure etc.). If you are "unknowingly one of the 15%, alcohol may give you too much reward (lizard brain) and at the same time numb the logical part of the brain too quickly (prefrontal cortex), leading you to always want more. This sets you up for addiction (a learned behavior). You try to drink normally but end up blacking out. You are told, you have no willpower, you are lacking in spirituality or morals, when in fact your unique brain biology (DNA) just can't handle this poison that everyone else drinks for fun, period. But you keep trying to be a "normal" drinker because it's expected and you are unaware of the 15% biology issue. Alcohol, all by itself, can and does often times lead to a lifetime of trauma (way too may alcohol-related issues to list here). So yes, big and little traumas in childhood & in life contribute definitely - but IMO, the ubiquitous nature of alcohol in our society (just look at our grocery stores - now with 3 aisles of booze) and the expectation to drink it - this is what TRAPS so many wonderful and healthy people into a lifetime of uncontrollable cravings and strange behavior.
And broken marriages
So wonderfully said. Thank you. I hope i will come out of this addiction someday
I couldn't have said it better, I 100% agree.
Great insights … thanks for sharing
I think I’m part of that 15%, what exactly are you referring to so I can Google it. Like, is there a term for people who have this specific response?
I liken it to driving an Indy car on the track , but you're only allowed to drive 15mph. You get to drive the Indy car, but....for us alcoholics or addicts, what's the point of driving the Indy car, if you can't get the rush of going fast? I've found that I went from drinking 100 proof vodka (2-4) pints every night, then a suicide attempt by a GSW to the head. I was braindead for 13hrs, but survived. I got out of the hospital and was refraining from the vodka, only to find myself slipping back into it once again. I had stopped therapy for a PTSD issue, I've had all my life, mostly a "Dateline" type story of a childhood and put into a group home, then later adopted at 9. I never addressed any of it, but as I aged, I discovered more and more "numbing" substances, most illicit. I have been clean off the last illicit one for 15yrs, but alcohol, was the legal ticket and I could rely on it to come through for me every stinking night. After my suicide attempt, I got into therapy and was doing good staying away, well better than usual for me. I stopped therapy, then, my drinking started slowly gaining momentum. I got back into therapy, yet I maintained a secret drinking regiment, although still not as bad as before my attempt. Then one weekend I went on a 4 or 5 day 100 proof vodka bender, puking here and then, then continuing to drink. This was a problem. I was hammered into a very undesirable state, so I said that was enough, and went into a 5 day detox voluntarily. I could have left as soon as the next morning, but was watching other people do that, and wondered just how soon they'd be back, so I decided, I'm staying the whole detox. One other gentleman and I made a pact we'd complete our detox, which we did. I got out of detox and another day later, guess what, I was looking at the bottom of another bottle.....but, in that instant, when I was tempted to get another bottle, I decided to get real. I came out about it to my therapist and started doing research, and Naltrexone,was one option brought up to me. So more homework, still craving, but refraining, because I had a goal. I spoke with my primary care doctor about it, therapist already knowing where I was in this, and spoke very bluntly about my situation and that Naltrexone was something I'd like to try. I was prescribed it. The first night, I, being curious and probably stupid, took the Naltrexone, and drank starting about 2 hrs after. It felt different. I think I thought I might be getting a buzz, but not sure, but eventually, I lost interest in pushing for the buzz and gave up. The next day, I took my Naltrexone, as prescribed, and went out to the garden to weed and work. Usually cravings start around 10am, I finished in the garden at about 1pm. Didn't feel the need to stop and rip off a bottle at any point from 10 till 1. This, surprised me, but I went with it as I still, wasnt craving. I went that first day, wo a drink, not a drop. "Well, what about the next day?", I thought in my head. The next day, morning pill, then the day came and went without any desire to drink. It's remained that way. Now, I'm only on my first month, human, and an addict, so I've proven to fall down before, but Naltrexone, coupled with my now being open in weekly therapy about it all, and accountability to change that drinking narrative, I'm more able to focus on those lifelong issues, I numbed. I allowed the symptom to run me, while not actually addressing the real underlying disease. Addiction, is a symptom, not the disease. The disease remains, without the alcohol or drugs, so...I'm free now to not battle intrusive cravings and failed self talk, which take up so much energy, and apply that energy towards focusing on the actual disease. So far Naltrexone, has delivered on point. I believe with accountability, drive, therapy, this medication works like a genie in a bottle. Pun intended. I now, consider how many folks I know, with drinking issues, that might be willing to align factors and get on Naltrexone, to lift that fog holding back the actual healing. Thanks for reading my rant and I hope it may have helped anyone considering getting and staying sober. Have a blessed day. 🤘😁
You described that so well. I always wondered about how powerful alcohol cravings could be. I lost my son to alcoholism 12 years ago. It was ACLF. I’ve been trying to understand the addiction to it ever since. I wish I had known about Naltrexone. Thanks for sharing. Your story meant a lot to me.
what's a GSW
@@mjp96 a Gun Shot Wound. 🙂
I had a drinking problem for over a decade. Very much like what they described and definitely trauma-related. I tried many things including AA (retraumatising) but this is what worked. I did continue drinking for a few months, on and off but the amount reduced and so did the days. In less than 6 months I became completely sober and now it seems like a lifetime away. The best thing is that the cravings just disappeared and that was the hardest part to deal with when trying to quit. Without the cravings, I could avoid drinking and the trick is to not give in and have that one or two drinks, and if you do, make sure you are still taking the medication, because it reduces the likelihood of restarting the whole process.
As for weight issues, shopping etc I have all these but it didn't help with them, not to a great degree. Then again, I am not sure, my issues certainly were a thousand times better than when I was drinking. Also, I have some serious, multiple traumas, resembling 'A series of unfortunate events' in depth and scope, so I always sought food and shopping as distractions and when alcohol was out of the picture it was perfectly natural for me to go ahead and continue or do more of those things. In other people they're probably more likely to just pick up some better habits (with some serious effort and commitment) by striving to maintain their new-found sobriety.
All in all, Naltrexone has changed my life by reducing the profound amount of suffering that drinking caused.
Now that I've been sober for nearly 2 years I take it on a need to basis rather than daily. So once in the last month when I attended a place that served alcohol. I didn't drink and wasn't tempted for more than 10 seconds. It was not a difficult decision either, no emotion involved or desire to drink.
As for cost, in Australia it's about $140 for a month supply (generic) or about $200 for the non-generic pack. Cheaper than my previous drinking problem.
@Raven Goddess of The Happy Hookers it could be retraumatising in thousand ways, there are so many variables and whilst that's true in much of life, AA is just random people with their own problems. If you have experienced trauma, you may be better off in an environment where you are helped by professionals with sound boundaries, informed about trauma and can work with that without making the person feel guilty or over-responsibilising them (not all AA groups are like this and I am sure they help SOME people tremendously).Outside of this, I am entitled to my opinion and do not have to disclose further in case you feel the need to go on the defensive about AA.
Ill just add an example instead of being overly defensive myself, shunning for instance is one of the things I have experienced. Prejudiced behaviour, again, whilst this is not AA specific, the way it is structured, there is little in place to protect some vulnerable people. Anyway, like any informal support group, it can be great for some and not so great for others. As for it being retraumatising for some people, maybe Google some papers and assess these claims for yourself, its better that way.
Way to go ... using Naltrexone! It's a wonder medication for 3 out of 4 people with AUD. Spread the word.
$140 for a months supply??? In the US it’s about $1000!!!! 😣 Thank goodness I’m a veteran and my prescriptions are heavily subsidized by the VA and i only have to pay a little bit.
There is also online Pharmacies for much cheaper, in case anyone's doctor won't prescribe it. I've been through that.
If a drunk, IN HIS HEART AND MIND,. decide no more alcohol, why not take ANTABUSE and be done with it? Prove to your loved ones there can NOT BE ANY DRINKING. But with Naltraxone, who knows, because boozers are trixsters, "Honey I am taking it, vs her giving you ANTABUSE and absolutely knowing you cannot drink. This gives peace to all your loved ones, and for once, if you are dumb enough to test it- THE TRIXSTER PAYS WITH MISERY, while loved ones knows, it is just an allergic reaction. NO REHAB etc, no fear of death.. ANTABUSE is the only "I can prove it" Your wife saw you swallow the pills every 25 days
Simple and straightforward. Also you both were upbeat.
I’m on day two of withdrawl - and been prescribed this medicine.
Is naltrexone helping you?
@@Michael-tr7uq It did. I’m 2 months sober !
Also took Ambien sleeping pill at night - to help me sleep.
I’m free of booze ! Now I just go to a AA meeting once a week.
@@seagullpoet That's awesome! Happy to hear this, it makes me feel hopeful!
This guy is amazing.
I like your format with the two of you discussing, and the associated banter.
Very engaging.
Currently abstinent, but if an occasion comes up like a Wedding reception, Naltrexone will be ingested before the party begins! Haven't tried it (Naltrexone), but the thought of never drinking again really bothers me.
Glad you like the format.
Likes and shares help us out, if you’re inclined.
This medication works, but it sucks. Even the most adamant lovers of booze will have their relationship with alcohol changed for the worse (at least if we’re gauging it from the angle of how much you enjoy it). Alcohol will no longer taste good to you. It fundamentally changes your taste and experience of alcohol consumption. It causes me to feel sick when drinking - not to the point where I feel like I’m going to vomit, but it’s just an overall unpleasant experience. Sucks. But does it work? Yes?
It sucks because you're just feeling the effects of the alcohol without the endorphins. Basically your body is just realizing it's drinking poison. Endorphins can be a hell of a thing
When I take it, it's a very weird feeling. Like I am full after a giant meal that I didn't even have. I don't feel like drinking, or I can't finish the one I have. Has anyone experienced that feeling?
@mjp96 that’s how it works for most.
Sometimes there is no trauma. i became addicted in uni because it was fun. now i drnk because im bored. naltrexone helped me, but then the lockdown hit (from ontario canada). now theres nothing else to do, but drink
Boredom, isolatation, loneliness , feeling trapped, meaninglessness, lack of role. These are pains which addictions give respite from. But the interest is very high.
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This is what your government wants?
@@thePSYCHcollective He does all of the talking.
I can’t believe how much wine and tequila I used to drink before Naltrexone! Now I can hardly get through a glass. It tastes gross and feels like I’m forcing myself to drink. I normally just say forget it and pour it out. I’m still trying to break out of the HABIT of drinking, but I’ve gone from a pint of tequila and two bottles of wine in a night a year ago to not even being able to finish a glass tonight. It’s working!
Hellooo. Well done to you. I started Nal 2 days ago. It definitely made me reduce consumption of alcohol..but it makes me feel a bit weird and now i have a headache. Did u experience this too?
@@ballsey4521 Hi! Sorry for the late response, just seeing this comment. I didn’t really have any negative side effects that I can recall. I still use it and it’s still helpful. I think I’ve had wine once in the past month. My life is nothing at all like it used to be. I hope everything is still going well for you. And if not, it’s always okay to get back up and start over. We’ve all been there!
@@ballsey4521 However, I do want to point out the importance of remembering to let someone know if you’re using it in the event you ever end up in the hospital. I went to the ER a few weeks ago due to intense abdominal pain. I was given morphine and it barely took the edge off. I forgot to tell them about the Naltrexone until they had given me a third dose of morphine and asked about any prescriptions I may be on because they couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t effective. I never have to go to the hospital so it totally slipped my mind during intake.
@@moniquemarrie thank u so much for your reply. Tbh, after i reacted badly to 1 tablet i haven't touched Nal again. But I wasnt feeling great at the time and i knew my immunity was low. So now im healthier and stronger i will definitely try Nal again. As ive heard so many success stories. Also, i hope your abdominal pains is much better now🤗
@@ballsey4521 I definitely suggest giving it another shot! I really hope it works out for you! 🙏🏾
I’m a success story of the Sinclair Method. Game changer!!!
I need this in my life
I am trying today. Looking forward to a brain change! My doc just called it in.
How You doing 7 months later ,do You get sober ?
Good video
It has taken away the itch that has been there since my teena when i first tried alcohol. I just don't feel like it for the first time in my life.
I'm about to start hope it helps
On day 2 would usually smash a six pack. Could only manage 1.5 beers wasn't enjoyable
It’s quite stunning how well it works for some people.
According to the advocates of The Sinclair Method one uncouples drinking / pleasure by extinguishing that association by using alcohol with naltrexone.
That's so strange to me. I can't believe something flips a switch like that. Life hasn't really shown me it's ever possible to do that. About to start my own treatment.
I think this would be more efficient without the back and forth. Appreciate the info though.
The "root cause" isn't usually something which is easy to isolate, especially considering the fact there are likely a collection of causes as time goes on.
I agree. There’s usually multiple root causes that have accumulated and seemingly keep people trapped. They can be hard to figure them out. Any that get addressed is for the better.
So identifying and tackling root causes is never a bad idea. It’s hard and people usually need help from different sources and different perspectives.
We ignore root causes at our peril
I think it’s also difficult to isolate because we drink to forget and numb the pain of the memories that are causing trauma. Our brains also try to protect us by forgetting trauma. I don’t remember most of my childhood and teen years, but still feel the trauma from it, and I think that’s why.
That’s a good point. I’ve seen people that are stuck and they are unsure why. They have a feeling that something happened in the past. It often eventually reveals itself. That’s a painful revelation, but it’s often necessary to transcend what happened
I tried drinking while on this drug. I got annoyed that I wasn't getting drunk. I never felt the effects but had a terrible hangover.
Can you do a video on bupronorphine?
i just wanted to add my experience in the hope that it will help someone. I arrived to this method via a different route, because for me, I was emotionally distressed and began to investigate why this was so and began to lean into the pain from old wounds and allow them to surface [while still drinking in the evening] and accepting and letting them go -this was a tough process. As I began to recover I could finally see clearly how I had been using alcohol as a numbing agent for the pain and to try to give me good feelings instead. So I decided to use naltrexone now that I had little need to numb the pain as it wasn't really there anymore and the absence of the positive emotion from alcohol [which naltrexone is perfect at eliminating], didn't bother me as I wasn't in pain any more. So just to say that there may be more than one route to this - and as they say in the video, Naltrexone will not eliminate the pain, but may create a safer space in which to address it.
well said Matt. Thank you.
When I went to AA 15 years ago, I had to deal with my past and clean up the mess I had made. Now I'm free of the past and enjoy the ups and downs of life. I understand why people would rather just take a pill and abstain. I'm really glad I didn't.
For some, it takes stopping drinking first to be able to get to things like AA, treatment, or therapy. It’s easier to see that we need help once we have the blinders off that kept us from seeing the reality that we thought we needed to hide from in order to survive. It’s meant to go hand in hand, not as an alternative. This is the first step of many for most of us who want to try this medication.
I’m on day 3 after watching this video. Feeling hopeful for the first time in a decade. I never considered myself an alcoholic but alcohol has been affecting my health and helping me hide the pain, but without fixing anything of course. I also struggling with sugar addiction and I think this could help that, too. I’ll see how it goes!
I don't do either. I don't like AA because it feels cultish to me. And it really didn't help just to be honest. I also had a bad reaction to the pill method. So I been doing it on my own so far
I started on Naltrexone 2 days ago...Wow! It has definitely made me reduce my alcohol consumption thank God!...but the Naltrexone makes me feel weird and I was nauseous last night and this morning i have a headache. Anyway, i refuse to go back to heavy drinking and will persist with Naltrexone. Just hoping the Naltrexone is not damaging to health in other ways
Hey , please share where I can get it too
@@2askaa i live in Ghana and was able to buy over counter.
I was prescribed this like 2 weeks ago.
I took 1 dose I had the worst reaction/experience ever. Sore throat, super nervous, paranoid, almost felt manic, ringing of the ears, and my heart was beating out my chest. Then I read the long term effects. And I threw the rest in the trash. Never again.
Maybe it wasn't for me
Too bad, you should have started with quarter dose with a meal and water.
It almost seems painful for him to listen or agree with her. Besides that weird dynamic, it was interesting to learn more about root causes-
Thank you so much for this video . Where do we get this medicine?
It is a prescription medication.
You’ll need to see a doctor.
Alcohol also works like a "cheat code", for an instant reward. Trauma may just be a "likely excuse", used retrospectively. Kids haven't learned how to earn rewards through diligent effort, and use the alcohol cheat code instead. Once the alcohol is out of the user's system, for good, permanently, the trauma tends to go away. It's harder for adults over 20 to become addicted, because they realize the empty reward that alcohol is.
Might? I drink a 1/5 a day and just over compensate it’s effects with pounding more. Someone please give me advice, been married for 23 yrs 4 kids & a grandson on the way and I’m living in my parents basement. If anyone out there can give me good solid advice please do.
Great video freinds , im going to try naltrexon and get therapy, ive been out of control from booze at times over the last 20 years
Chat with you doc and let us know if it’s helpful!
It seemed almost painful for him to listen or agree with her... besides that weird dynamic, it was interesting to learn more about the root cause.
this is a great format! Do you think naltrexone might have an effect in other behavioral addictions/coping strategies like porn, social media, tobacco?
It also been used in gambling, kleptomania and porn (results are variable).
Please that don't work on non of that ,i can believe this person or clinic ( the Psycho collective ) tell You the this work on this behavior lol,You can SEE the just want money My Good Lord.it work on opioids too .
I wanna know what kind of effect it has on people with porn addiction my therapist suggests i take naltrexone while I crave for porn .
Theoretically: less pleasure/reward leads to less reinforcement. Less reinforcement helps break the cycle. Theoretically.
I love to workout it's my natural high. Drinking has been a problem though. Big time. Will Naltrexone also block the 'high' I get from a workout such as weight training?
It could. But it may not. One may find that it’s better to take it before drinking. Not taking it just before gym or before any other enjoyable activity.
Agree, only take the pill 1 hour before drinking and try hard to drink slowly and mindfully. No naltrexone on alcohol free days. Some day you will only need an occasional pill or none at all. Takes 6-12 months.
@@Michael-tr7uq why no naltrexone on alcohol free days?? because of the cost?
@@mjp96 , no, The Sinclair Method targets the drinking behavior only. For people that binge once a week, one pill will do it. TSM info is all over social media.
This sounds like a paradigm.
I've been on it for 3 days now and I'm fucking drunk and loving it wtf
Is there enough Naltrexone in 4mgs of Suboxone v(1MG) to curb drink?
It might. Have you have experience of it?
I’m well over 6 months in and still drinking everyday. I’m taking the medication everyday also. I still don’t know if it’s working or not?
If it’s not attenuating your consumption you really need to talk to your doctor.
@@thePSYCHcollective ok thanks. I think it is maybe a little bit.
Hi everyone. I bought naltrexone today. I drink on weekends until I pass out. And obviously, to get a brain reward. I hope that will change now. Wish me luck 🙂
Good luck!
search UA-cam for naltrexone taken per The Sinclair Method (pill taken one hour before drinking, only on drinking days). This targets the behavior of drinking and leads to pharmacological extinction of the cravings in 4-12 months, at which time the pill and the alcohol is used very seldom, if at all, once cured of the nagging cravings.
How you get naltrexone I ask doctor to prescribing but doctor didn't please tell me how you get it and is that really helpful?
I would like to hear how it stops the cravings for alcohol as I am trying to abstain from it completely. My Psychiatrist prescribed it daily as it would take away cravings as if you think of alcohol, you start to realize actually it’s not really going to let you numb the pain. Therefore there is no point in taking a drink. All I see on UA-cam is people taking it and then not drinking as much. I would like to know more about what I described, and if that is also true, just by taking it, your brain no longer craves alcohol as it does not offer the award, so then what’s the point. Background - PTSD and I binge drink to numb pain.
How are you doing after taking it for a month? I'm only one week in and cut right back from 10 plus beers to 3 at the most, almost gotta force myself to drink.
Nice result
James listen this work for the cravings and whitdraws perfect not only for alcohol for wiich was invented but for opioids too . How You doing 2 months later ?
Book by Dr Roy Eskapa is wonderful, all about Naltrexone
Naltrexone saved me in 10 months time 😊
hi,can it help with junk food craving?
Potentially.
@@thePSYCHcollective thxx
How about some Adderall to activate reward system
It will, people do describe some initial euphoria when starting it. Sometimes even a mood dip when it wears off. Mostly people seem to develop tolerance to that effect unless they take time away from it. Sometimes the dose escalates. Generally it’s not prescribed for this purpose. More info here: ua-cam.com/video/LG_yD5SXuCg/v-deo.html
@@thePSYCHcollective It brought me out of a deep depression. It felt like I had undergone a SHOCK treatment to my brain, and my life was changed from nearrly comatose to "Alive" In fact I was angry at the Psych for not letting me try iot earlier. Have stayed aqt 30mg IR- TEVA od SANDOZ- some 'junky ' brands are just bad- I take it that ADDerall has a firing order? TYOLERANCER is the worst word a patient learns about"
What if it didn’t work for me on my first day (last night) does that mean it won’t work at all for me?
Needs a few days more most people
@@thePSYCHcollective Wow thank you so very much for responding. I am filling up with tears. I have so many questions. Is there a support group for this?
for the most effect way to take naltrexone - see www.cthreefoundation.org, tons of support there
Can naltrexone help with cravings ?
It mostly helps by not rewarding the enaction of the craving, so acting out the craving doesn’t strongly activate the reward pathways when one is taking naltrexone (in theory).
Thereby the enacted craving is not reinforced. The Sinclair method posits that non-reinforcement leads to extinction of the drive/craving
@@thePSYCHcollective That is not true. Naltrexone has been scientifically proven through high levels of evidence to reduce craving and increase the likelihood if one does leave treatment, that they will return. What you are describing is why naltrexone prevent cravings. Prevents the downstream dopamine response from the mesolimbic pathway due to the full antagonist potential of naltrexone on mu opiate receptors, thus reducing craving and prevention of death if they do relapse.
This makes so much sense ... I'm considering naltrexone ... but I dont want to face the Demons on the other side...
Alcohol is more of a demon than reality, that’s my perspective and why I want to fix this problem.
Let me tell you, you’re ready! Get with a therapist, a group, something! Help is out there! I just finished up six months of therapy and have been on Naltrexone for over a month now. Game changer!!
Hmm.
Wow! She is just beautiful!😍
Not just on the outside either
She's really cute. But do we need a team here? She doesn't really do anything but listen!
Did they really just say alcoholism isn't a genetic disease? Bye.
You are correct that there is a genetic component in some cases. A proportion of people have a genetic predisposition because in those people alcohol very strongly activates the reward system. That intense activation leads to copious consumption and reward desensitisation. That genetic mechanism does account for a proportion people that have severe alcoholism.
May I ask you how could I get Naltrexone? Thank you
By prescription from a doctor
I can get the prescription. So how can you send me ? Thank you
We don’t. See you doc then if prescribed take your script to a pharmacy to dispense it.
@@thePSYCHcollective my doctor in China suggested me to try Naltrexone, but we haven’t this medicine in China. Could you please send the Naltrexone to me? Thank you a lot
No. I am not a medication supplier.
There are online dispensaries, but I don’t know/can’t recommend any particular one.
Would it eventually turn you into a zombie?
Mr.robotto lol
My experience of naltrexone was very bad. The effects were not purely restricted alcohol but to anything that I would find pleasure in before. I remember being at a wedding and just standing there like a zombie feeling nothing. Everything felt exhausting. Also you don’t drink while on Naltrexone it will make you very sick.
It’s possible that naltrexone can dampen reward effects a(nd thereby positive emotion) in a range of situations.
Drinking alcohol with naltrexone does not cause one to feel sick (generally). You might be confusing it with disulfirim (Antabuse) which is a medication that is used in drinkers because it causes people to feel sick if they drink.
@@thePSYCHcollective nope it was naltrexone. I had about x2 drinks and was violently vomiting after half and hour. Perhaps you take the pill after alcohol consumption? Either way it sure dose denture you from drinking but had some grim effects on me
Okay. Sorry to hear about that experience. Most people find they do not get sick after drinking alcohol when they take naltrexone. Indeed they can drink but don’t get the reward reinforcement - which is what the video is about
@@thePSYCHcollective fair enough. would be great if that was the case for all. Should be more widely available.
sounds like depression which can happen if you have been drinking for a long time and then stop. I had the naltrexone implant and then the shot. I drank occasionally after both and didn't get sick at all.
Guys, Harry Potter is giving this lecture and no one even cares.
A single 50 mg dose of naltrexone tablet made me violently ill. Within 20 minutes of it being in my stomach I had diarrhea, severe migraine, really bad sharp abdominal pain, sweating, tremors, the worst nausea of my life, I threw up a few times, I was extremely tired and weak and I was so dizzy, it exacerbated my vertigo. I only had a couple glasses of wine the night before and no alcohol whatsoever the day I took it. The prescription is going in the trash. I can’t believe they prescribe this stuff to people -it’s poison
Were you on any opiates like Vicodin?
I read you’re supposed to be 4 days sober before taking it
Sounds like you had withdrawals.
Alcoholism, like any disease, is ultimately spiritual. While Naltrexone might help in the physical process, you should still seek rehab, therapy, join AA and go back to Church. These are the only ways to do it, particularly re-establishing your connection to God and your fellow person.
Root of Addiction is incorrect; you'll need a bigger white board. To characterize it as simply past emotional pain negates every other possible factor, and says to me as an addict, I'm not addicted. Now you as a physiologist may argue that I am unable to identify said emotional pain, yet it is still there. I would say that's complete nonsense which does more to prop up your theories than treat people. I drink because I like it, I had a sip and I loved it - why I took that sip is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
I agree with you for the most part as addiction is not always a result of emotional pain. Very much an oversimplification and most addicts would find offensive. Secondly, addiction is not correlative to mental illness, they are two different diagnosis. If there is trauma etc. in one’s past that led them to addiction, then understanding what led them to that first drink is important because then it becomes a dual diagnoses (mental health and addiction) and both should be treated. There are similarities between addiction and mental illness as far as monoamines, neuronal networks, hormones, and gene expression etc. As far as addiction, well anyone can become addicted due an abnormal dopamine response that leads to impulsivity and compulsion. Now this is just a simplification but this video should have had an addictionologist present as one would correct the theory they present.
@Mr. David -
Fair comment. This is probably an overgeneralisation. I see so many people in this predicament that it has probably skewed my thinking toward trauma as the main root cause. Some people do get very LIT UP by alcohol from a reward system perspective. And if there’s little else that feels rewarding then alcohol becomes the main player
@@thePSYCHcollective
Regardless of your analysis, we both have to admit it's timely.
Horrible audio
This does not work please don’t try this if you are alcohol dependent
The most you could say is it didn't work for YOU. Don't dissuade others from trying this helpful method to reduce their alcohol use.
oh it works ! sadly you may be one of the small percentage of people who suffer side effects or some other sort of problem. there are other medications you can try. Don't give up!!
It worked well for me. I even stopped taking it and I dont even wanna drink anymore or I even hate feeling drunk now. I only took it for three weeks
He must be working in spirits factory and doesn't want to lose profit
I've been alcohol free 35 days.. naltrexone flipped a switch. I don't even think about drinking or any cravings. It took a few weeks of trying to but I stopped taking it over a month ago. I can't explain it but it literally has my sick thinking about alcohol. I keep it around just incase I feel like drinking.