Apex Legends - Respawn LISTENED! Armor Un-Nerfed!
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- White Armor is back to 50, Blue is 75, Purple/Gold is 100, and Red is 125! Praise be!
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Don't eat your mouth Frothy, I like to listen to your meta analysis.
As a mid masters ranked player (both splits last) who also enjoys the game casually with irl friends. The armor reduction in my opinion was a great change to the game. Snipers actually felt viable throughout the early, mid, and late game. Time to kill allowed for fights to be finished and cleaned up before being 3rd partied, and shook up the weapon sandbox, further increasing the need to accurately hit shots, and rewarding good aim and positioning. It also did some to alleviate the large nerf to grenades we got last season, making them more viable while initiating fights.
Lastly it did a lot to prevent the 10 year fights that can go on where both teams have too many heals, and 5 bar red evos
I must be in the minority because i absolutely loved the armor change. Im also mainly solo and rarely use voice chat (as of season 6) so maybe that has something to do with it, but ive always felt the TTK was a bit too high. Now that theyve reverted it, i dunno how to feel just yet. Guess i gotta get back into some matches!
Me too I don’t like the change back so far i liked the level 1 felt like levep 1 and that you wanted to get rid of it i hope they put it back in eventually
I liked to lower ttk as a solo player too. If you think about it, it was 75 less damage you had to do to kill a full team.
I guess it'll be back to pre-mades stomping on solos.
I’m pretty sure you guys aren’t human lmao
Goose Goose bruh... it was so much better
Gabriel Pearlman that’s your opinion, in my opinion and in the opinion of many many others, especially those who played the game competitively, we did not like the change.
I liked it more... the max was still 200 which was the old max before red, so it didnt feel strange at all. I don't like 225 health, I think it's too much
I’m a simple man, I see a frothy video I click
Wow, this is my first time being berated by a salty Tf2 player because a content creator stopped making content on a nearly four year old game.
they should make it when you level up from purple armour you can instead hit the healing items button shortcut and you can choose to level up to red or gold. So you can either prioritize your minor items efficiency or you can get an additional 25 shields.
I enjoyed the new ttk and armor changes, ot fit my playstyle perfectly and allowed me to win more gunfights in general even if I had an inferior shield but well I guess adapting to change isn't an option at this point
Apex's higher ttk is what gives it its identity it's not an issue about adapting it's an issue about having less fun. I've invested over 1K hours into this game and after a few days of season 6 the game was just way to frustrating that I just quit, also on ranked the lower ttk was even worse as the lobbies I play in no one misses shots so there is never a situation where you can turn around a fight if you got shot first. And I'm sure that's how most of the higher skilled players felt.
@@PhantomRing Was so annoying the amount of triple takes in every game. Every team had one, no one would push and most the fights were at mid-long range. It felt like i was playing warzone
@@MiyukiLily that much frustration from 25 less hp, huh? Get good. Or I guess not at this point, Respawn listened to whiny bitches
Honestly I just stayed for the Gibby Revives!
Too many changes at once. With the shield nerf a lot of guns needed to be looked at. At least the Respawn listens.
Welcome back Frothy.
Thank god they Changed it back. I couldn’t pub stomp and push every fight with my pre made with the armor nerf and now I can again 😍😍
Can't tell if this is a sarcasm or not
Kaung San how can it be anything else than sarcasm?
I prefered this armor because the fights were drawn out. I enjoy apex bc of this
I honestly liked the lower TTK, it was one of my bigger issues with the game originally and why I often tread back to TF2, however if the general community and especially the competitive community felt negatively about the changes, I applaud Respawn's decision to revert the changes in such a timely manner (I play team fortress so 2 weeks is a godsend lol). Also sorry about your mouth Frothy, feel better soon :(
@Skillage in the village oh i meant titanfall 2 in the first part, with the game i come back to! I love that game
Hey, I've had this idea for an armor change for a few weeks now that would still lower the ttk by a little bit, but not as badly as removing the armor bar. What if respawn changed the armor bar values to 20 instead of 25, but keeping the 5 bars for red, 4 for purple and gold, etc. This way, purple shielded legends will have 180 total health instead of 200, which will still be higher than the previous nerfs. The biggest change would be red armor, losing 25 total health.
Thoughts?
I actually agree with this
I was never against the reduced armor values and honestly, I was starting to like it. As a bad player with poor aim, needing less shots to kill only benefits me. And despite being a Pathfinder main, which comes with the dreaded Low Profile debuff, I was still able to use my abilities to get out of most bad situations alive. But I’ve been playing since week 1, so regardless of how I feel, going back to the old armor values shouldn’t be an issue for me.
Same I was fine with the ttk but I’m not complaining about the revert
Man I just learned about the nerf a day ago and I wanted to get back in the game after not playing it for 6 months because I never liked the original TTK...
I had mixed feelings with the armor change. Not sure if I had enough time with it to truly tell if I just didn't like it personally or if it was broken.
It's always exciting to see a Frothy video pop up in my feed. I couldn't agree more with the kudos for the devs. The Apex teams are literally some of the best in the industry. Big props to them for all the hard work and dedication.
Actually low profile is better than fortified for -25shield.
That being said I liked the change but I didn't mind the reverse either. I was on a long break as well so...
Was it that bad? I never had problems with it.
As someone who hasn't touched apex in more than 6 months I like being up to date in hopes of one day being able to play again
I liked the lower evo armour health. I got my highest amount of kills in a round from this armor change
I personally really liked the lower health as it felt like fights ended quicker making third partying less of a problem. I understand the reversion, but I was fairly disappointed to see it happen.
I'm hype about this returned to the game and damn it feels 🔥 again
In theory- I liked the idea of the ttk, and after a few days I even got used to it. But with as many weapons they buffed/ introduced this season, I could really feel the -25 shields.
I'm glad Respawn is willing to make experiments and is not too proud not to revert the changes according to data
That Octane kept going down lol
hahah papa gibraltar was there to help
Great, now get that Devotion back in the drop where it belongs.
👍thx for the vid, hope ur mouth gets better soon.
Im glad they reverted but I find that way too many people have Red Armor. Its too easy to get now. Its no longer when you shoot someone with it its like "oh damn this guy's been through it all" now its just normal to see it every fight.
I liked the lower ttk but I do understand why some people disliked it, at least they kept all-evos tho that's Pog
I miss the old armor tbh it was closer to titanfall TTK, I have 300 hours in it. I understand the change but I find it unfortunate.
Personally, I prefer faster TTK in general, but I can see why a lot of people didn't like the canges, so I won't complain that Respawn listened to their community. The game is still a lot of fun this season
I really liked the lower ttk. Made it easier to push and heightened the skill gap imo. Idk why everyone kept complaining about it. Was fine for me.
I can 100% understand the arguments in favor of the change. I'd definitely not be opposed to experimenting with it more. One thing I didn't mention in the video, but a commenter correctly brought up, is that by changing the armor values, certain weapons need to be rebalanced around that change. The wingman and mastiff come to mind!
@@FrothyOmen understandable. Although, I feel like the community just heard the opinions of the pros/influencers and kinda stuck with them without questioning them too much. I found it way easier to take multiple fights consecutively, since I would get damaged less because the opponents had less time to do so before they died. It made it easier to kill less experienced players while rewarding good players for positioning, movement, aim etc.
With that subjective ramble out of the way, I agree about the weapons. The 'stiff felt far too strong, while I have mixed feelings about the wingman. I've played a ton today and died way more off spawn, to new/less experienced players and had a more difficult time handling 1v3s. I also liked the fact that gibraltar and caustic didn't feel like unkillable god-titans (monarch video reference, wink) when they had red evos. I forgot how I wanted to conclude this incoherent speech of mine, so thanks for your time. Have a nice day!
imo it lowered the skill gap as weapons were stronger and you could miss way more shots it turned apex from a change your situation when being pushed to a die no matter what you do type of situation
@@MiyukiLily 95% of times there is always something you can or could have done to come out on top. I think you felt unable to change your fate exactly because the skill gap was heightened. It all depends on the point of view. If you are a new/average player, you'd want to have a fair chance against other players. If you are above average or really good then you'd want to only loose to an equally skilled/better player.
@@theunholybakery1990 The lower shields made almost impossible to 1v3, all teams were holding hands and never pushing. The camping also got out of hand.
They said energy weapons are too strong and moved Devotion to care package and removed Turbocharger. Then they nerfed Havoc. Then they nerfed it again.
Then in Season 6 they put an energy SMG that's basically a mini Devotion with no recoil and no charge time, brought Devotion back, reduced Havoc recoil, brought back Turbocharger, and reduced TTK.
I enjoyed both versions of TTK for different reasons, but it was weird to see them go against everything they said and change the balance completely.
I think strong energy weapons are fine and low TTK is fine, but both of those shouldn't be in the game at the same time.
the real reason energy attachments were removed lets be honest was because the loot pool would be way to saturated if only the havoc could use extended mags and turbo
@@MiyukiLily True. But it took them a whole season to make choke built-in in triple take while it was the only gun that you could pick it up for. It's like there are two balance teams working on the game and they're not talking to each other.
But I think the balance is dope now, I'm having the most fun since Season 0, so it's all good imo
Nahhh i don't wanna burn through enemies with red evo each game, especially a fortified character 😵
I was suprised a lot of people bitched about these changes. It made the game more fun for me. There were some braindeads that griped how harder the game became, but it wasn't like that for me. Easier to get killed means easier to kill, I was getting more kills. Seeing entire reddit in flames from these changes really surprised me. Well, bitches gotta bitch, what can you do
Something that hasn't been mentioned is how viable snipers had become. When they had the lower ttk there was at least 1 sniper on every squad.
I feel like this is the first time Respawn really caved in on their own philosophy due to people complaining. The armor change was good because their reason behind the change was good. They wanted to promote positioning instead of mechanical skill and now they reverted to the old armor ways without any real explanation. I feel like they mainly did this because they couldn't figure out how to balance the gold shield in the "less-armor" meta
Anyone who had played in the higher level lobbies whether it be on sbmm or plat+ on ranked would never be able to sway the odds of battle like they used to because no one misses shots, promoting skill is better then positioning because the better player should be the one who wins and punishing those who put thousands of hours into the game to make those who casually play feel better is not very good
@@MiyukiLily I just don't enjoy the state of the game at the moment. They should increase the damage it takes to level up the Evo armor because now all you need to do is hot drop, get a weapon, do a bit of damage and you're already on 175 health.
respawn is the best studio ever they liosten to community and make good games and EA still didnt kill them
Finally
I might sound like an asshat but in my opinion, I really like the armor nerf. I think it promotes more planned thought and strategy but I understand the problem with randoms. I really think people, my self included needed to git gud. But I respect your opinions and I welcome the reversion
The TTK in the beginning of season 6 wasn't even bad at all, all they had to do was take away low profile, and nerf gibby and Caustic's health, they'll literally take every bullet from your entire team and still be alive.
Ok so you are suggesting to make wraith even stronger by removing low profile ? I guess you don't really pay attention to what respawn have said in the last yeaf
@@marciliojunior4919 she was the most picked legend out of all the others, yeah I know but you wanna know why? Because she is the best legend in the game, can't expect people not to pick her if she's literally the best legend in the game. And she gonna be strong because they taking away low profile? So it's cool to make low profile trash af by taking away 25% of health away and keep the take 5% more damage on low profile when they brought up the TTK? Gibby and Caustic could live thru so many shit, especially fuckin gibby with that damn gun shield, he basically has about 20 percent more health than everyone in the game. All I was doing is suggesting ideas to make the game fair at that time.
Yes yes yes
The new TTK was specially bad for those of us who play on high ping servers. Had absolutely no time to react.
I think Im the only one that liked the faster ttk
Yeah I hate this one. I loved the lower TTK instead how it is now.
Personally I preferred the faster ttk. Was easier to adapt to when switching between playing different games
Yayyyy the one change I actually enjoyed about this game has been fucking reverted. Awesome, fuck this game ❤
Gotta say I love they reverted the changes
oh well. Back to waiting for the event because I PERSONALLY dislike this change.
Oh... I was never against the armor change, I thought it was nice since I always felt the TTK was way too long. There would always be fights where the enemy needed just one more hit and they would end up getting away. Kind of lame they changed it back so fast because people didn’t want to get used to something new
That's what gives Apex it's charm that you can always sway your odds and come back from fights even if your the one being pushed
titanfall 2 in 2020?
Playing pathfinder last 2 weeks was actually pointless. Legend should get some grapple time back, it's literally the only reason to play him
You should give it's predecessor, Titanfall 2, a shot if you haven't. It's like everything on Apex on steroids with a better grapple that has a short cooldown AND 2 charges!
I loved the armour changes i was so glad to have lower ttk but now this just sucks why does everyone have to ruin good rhings
Gold armor is still pointless trash. They already nerfed it to be largely irrelevant and with everybody wearing 125 shields, it's straight up garbage. Give Gold 125. It's a purple shield that can't be upgraded. How can it be a gold tier item when it's poop tier quality?
Pog
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Frothy how did you bite your own mouth that bad. I'm not making fun of you, I've had some close calls recently.
literally just eating food, I am... clumsy? lol
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