Zoom G1 FOUR editing tutorial: Clarity!
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Welcome to my second video about the intriguing Zoom G1 FOUR multi effects pedal. In this one we take a look at editing patches and how the new Zoom interface works. We'll also try out a few different effect and explore its excellent noise reduction capability.
Thanks for the test drive - I'm using my G1on at the moment to model a tele sound with my strat and I'd definately prefer some quick switches and knobs as opposed to the menu/1knob/1 button mess. Helpful review!
Thanks Emil :) Gearfacts
What a simple and informative video. thank you so much
Thanks from Gearfacts
Im new user G1 four zoom, im blur to setting the effect,and i make my research about how to edit and setting the pedal,and im watch your content,its really help me.Tq for this video.
Hey thanks man, I'm really glad it was helpful :)
Just got mine from Amazon love it!
mpbirk nice 🙂🙂👌🏽 getting mine soon, good to hear that
hii... plis share ur feedback here... im also thinking of getting one
Thanks for this tutorial,how to get sound metal and move numbers ?can you make tutorial please 🙏
Just received mine. I was totally unimpressed with it out of the box. Once I figured out the controls to tweak the presets, I have gotten some really killer sounds. My channel was on hold because I had to sell all of my stuff, and I just don't like amp sims. They sound great, but a computer doesn't respond the same way an amp does. This unit has me back on track to wanting to grow my humble little channel
This all sounds really positive. Nice one!
@@gearfacts I meant to say that I wasn't totally impressed out of the box. When I started editing presets is when the unit came to life. These big youtube channels that have all of the gear in the world do not do a good job reviewing this. They never dive deep enough to show you what it can really do.
@@overdriveguitarchannel3403 They look at the navigation and freak out without reading the quick-start guide first. It's actually very intuitive to navigate once you can wrap you head around the WAY to navigate around it.
@@aiden_macleod ADHD and the covid vaccines have totally funked up peoples cognitive abilities. Shame.
I am loving this video so much
Glad it was helpful!
I see now how to change the effect types contained in a chain. Changing the order of effects in a chain would also interest me. Thanks :-)
Another great review!
However, after watching them, I'm more inclined to call this unit a 'Desk' Device rather than a 'Foot' Pedal. :)
Yep I can see that. I doubt it would survive some of the I've shows that I've seen...
Thanks for the info
I saw someone mention that they thought the G1on was simpler for navigation and had more info on the screen. I personally find by looking at these vids of this new G1 Four (and G1X Four) that the navigation is improved over the G1on. The G1on has a narrower screen which is taller but on any page of parameters, the maximum is three circular parameter dials per page. The G1 Four has 4 horizontal bars per page (unless it's multiple pages and the 4th one is for changing pages from what I've seen. On the G1on, you must use the one rotary knob and 'enter' button for navigating so much of the time. On the G1 Four, you can navigate slots with the 5 illuminated buttons and adjust the parameters with knobs instead of using one knob and enter (on the G1on , 'enter' to select an effect -> turn knob to adjust -> enter to exit that effect -> knob to navigate to other effect -> enter to select effect -> knob for adjusting that effect ...and so on ~ whereas on the G1 Four you can adjust 4 knobs for the parameters of the effect right away... that is totally far less navigating). Turning on/off effects in a patch with the 5 illuminated buttons is also far less navigating than with the G1on ( turn knob to select effect in patch -> enter to select it -> hit foot button to turn it off -> home button to get back to patch and repeat if you want to turn off other effects .... again way more steps to this in the G1on instead of just hitting one of 5 buttons. So in my opinion, I'm thinking the navigation is much more streamlined than the one knob method of the G1on. I also like the option to limit scrolling patch selections to one bank (I have various patches in banks for specific categories including ones just for my nylon string 'classical' and there is the chance of accidentally getting into a high gain patch in another bank which would cause huge feedback (one other great thing about the G1 Four is the volume knob. When I'm making a patch for my nylon string, and browsing effects, I have gone into the high gain amps by mistake and there is sudden loudness and feedback so just turning the volume down before searching through the effects would be so handy). One negative I have seen is the loss of the Particle reverb (which was kind of a CPU hog but nice for some things). There seem to be some new effects and maybe with the Guitar Lab software, one could download other effects. Anyway, IMHO just by looking at this new pedal online, I see it as a big step up as far as navigating goes from the G1on.
A fair point, i think. I agree about the Partcile Verb too, it was a shame to lose that one. As for processing, believe it or not the amp models on the G1FOUR generally take a huge amount of processing power, usually between 20 and 30 percent of total capacity. It makes sense though, as this is where most of the sonic improvement in the G1FOUR lies. Thanks for your great comment :) /GF
@@gearfacts Thanks for the reply. I'm wondering if the Zoom Guitar Lab software will allow you to download the particle reverb and various other things. It does say if has downloadable effects and not just patches (someone in a vid showing it was downloading some amp models). I was looking at vids of that software but didn't see anything specifically showing that. I have the G1on but I probably should have gotten the X version with the pedal. The G1X Four looks like editing and controlling it would be much better.
@@mountainstartemple6041 Yes I think control is a bit better on the G1FOUR, but to be fair it's not all that bad on the G1on - just too much 'enter' button pressing. So just a slight improvement there. As for Particle 'verb, I specifically looked for it in the software and couldn't see it. That's a few months ago though, and Zoom are often providing upgrades. They're really good with that. Lots of after-sales service.
Thanks to your videos helping me a lot using this pedal.
Glad you liked it Ranajeet :) GF
The ZNR and tuner are worth the price of this unit alone. Add to that the superb other delays, reverbs, amps and cabs you really have an incredible workhorse. I wasted so much money on sub-par single-effect pedals, that just didn't deliver. The G1 Four is probably the greatest investment I've ever had with gear. The fact that it's $90 makes this a no-brainer, IMHO.
Yep i think seeing multi effects pedals as part of a larger rig is a great way to approach it, and to save money. ZNR is the best noise remover I've ever used, too.
Great tutorial, sir! I am running the G1 four in front of a Katana mk2 50. Do you recommend turning off the cab mic and reverb of the multifx and use the eq and reverb of the katana instead?
Dude it's what sounds good to YOUR ears that matters! The configuration you describe is great in theory but who's to say what's "the best way". My advice - don't be dictated to by anyone who claims to know what's best :)
@@gearfacts Thanks for the advice, mate! Subbed!
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I own the zoom G1on. In your opinion it worth buy also this one. They seem very similar to me.Thank you
At this stage I am thinking that I'd stick with the G1on :) GF
I guess g1 is better cz I could see only 5 effects can be set for a play.
thank you @@halfdevil_333
Why do you really need another multi-FX pedal?
@@aiden_macleod Indeed I realized I don't need a new one .The zoom g1on is good enough for my needs
Hi. Thanks for your video. One question - only the 10 free empty slots are for creating and saving my own presets, or can I also delete the factory preset to replace them with more of my own?
You can delete the factory presets and use those slots.
@@gearfacts thanks :)
@@gearfacts Thank you for your reply. I have one more question if you dont mind: can you have two pedals in one chain?
Excellent, thank you. Couldn't work it out from the manual...
Glad it helped! Thanks so much for watching :) #Gearfacts
Just ordered the G1x Four. Looking forward to it
Excellent choice! /GF
When the video begins, you're in MEMORY setting (just the patch name). Then, you say, "lets press EDIT." QUESTION: If you've pressed that button once, wouldn't the unit be in STOMP mode? Then, if you press that same button again, wouldn't it then be in EDIT mode?
Correct. I think that was a mistake in the editing phase. This kind of thing is a real hazard when making tutorial videos, there's a lot of skipping back and bookmarking. And inevitable mistakes! :)
bro you got to turn the mic on in the cabinet settings. i saw you had yours off. it sounds WAY better with mic on, for whatever reason all the cabinets mic's by default are off
Yes that's true
The reason they're all off by default, because the G1 Four is an effects pedal which is run into the front end of an amp, but has the option of using the OUT as a headphone jack, not the other way around.
Hey I am total noob here. I have guitar, I have this zoom g1 and MacBook Air. I use garage band but sound from my mackbook speakers are late. Latency is really disturbing. How to fix it? I read on internet I need to low buffer on my zoom effect. Can anyone could tell me how to do it?
I don't know about adjusting buffers, but I' sure that using a USB recording interface rather than direct USB connection to the pedal will give you lower latency. I recommend the Behringer UCS-222. I reviewed it on Gearfacts a couple of years ago - it's very cheap and has no noticeable latency :)
how do you delete or clear a pedal? i placed a bunch of them and would like to start over
I just make a blank patch and copy it into all the ones that I want to "delete"
Thanks for the show! you made it easy
Glad it helped!
It was a very good resource. Thank you.
Thank you for watching! :) Gearfacts
Very useful, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
it's possible to turn off the amp and cab simulation? i only like the modulation effects
Yes, you can turn off cab simulation in the edit menu
@@gearfacts Thanks!!!
Please make a video regarding the different amp Sims, drives, modulations,and delays.thank you
Yep, it's coming :) Gearfacts
Ok that’s done now :)
Looks like the navigation is more complex and there is less info on the display than with my G1X on. (Maybe there are some shortcuts to select an fx category in the user manual for example)
Was looking forward to this new Zoom pedal, hoping for even better soundquality and some new effects but the navigation/screen appear to be a step back. (I will probably buy one anyway 😊)
At this stage, I’m inclined to agree. Gearfacts
Well, it kinda HAS to be more complex because it does a lot more than most.
Hi, nice video mate :) Let me know if you notice the following thing and if there's any way to do with it. When there is let say a volume pedal in your chain and you totally raised the expression pedal, it would normally give no sound. But if you switch to another preset which has also a volume pedal and you actually won't touch the FX pedal, the preset is going to load with 100% volume unless you slightly move the pedal. In my opinion if the pedal is raised, there should be no sound no matter if you change another presets. Is it possible to set this somewhere ?
Yes I've noticed this to be a common thing with Zoom pedals, and many other brands. Apart from setting the upper/lower limits of the expression pedal, I've never found a good way around it :/
The zoom g2 is very good as well
The Zoom G2 is a classic! Made many videos about it :) #gearfacts
the HI/LOW input toggle is for active or passive pups.
Ah cool, cheers GG :) GF
The same for real amps. Depends on what you're after.
The main thing I don't like about this pedal as opposed to the previous generation is that the cabinet selection now takes up one of your 5 available slots. With the g1on that was a setting made within the amp selection, so amp and cab Sims only occupied one slot. To me that was a much better design choice on a pedal that limits you to 5 slots.
I'm also disappointed that they didn't add an undo function to the looper. How hard can that possibly be? Some of the cheapest Looper pedals on the market have this feature. While this pedal does offer some definite improvements over its predecessor these two particular things just seem to be glaring oversights IMO. Overall I'm happy with my purchase, but it could have been so much better.
I agree with both points. GF
It's because you can use different, even MULTIPLE cabs/amps, so that makes it more versatile than the previous version.
at about 7:18 into the video, I think you meant to say the acoustics* in your house were terrible, rather than electrics. Lol just thought I'd catch that for you.
Well spotted, yeah I do that from time to time
anyone know how I can move a patch, like copy it from a certain umber and move to a different one? cant see it or figure out thanks
I think there's a 'copy' function in the main menu
READ THE MANUAL.
I wish the amp section would be on the G3xn too, i hate the fact the amp section takes 2 slots and not 1 just like here
Agreed :/ Gearfacts
Can you set different tunings?
Can you set it on stomp mode?
With some clever programming it’s kind of possible. Kind of.
Hola saludos , este pedal sirve para guitarra acústica?
Yep it'll sounds great :)
I have a question about the octave effect. I remember the older zooms, and many other multi effects pedals, the octave effect always had a delay. I always found that quite annoying and undesirable. The doubled tone would play a few milliseconds behind. There's never a way to get the two tones to play exactly together like a regular, stand alone octave pedal. Is this the same or did they finally improve on that?
Yes I think I know what you mean. It's not noticeable on this model but I haven't paid super-close attention. I'll be doing a comparison between the G1-FOUR and a Zoom 3030 (25 years old) in a few days. We'll look into it then :) Gearfacts
Qual é a diferença entre essa e a zoom g1x fuor? É só o pedal de expresao ou ela tem mais alguma função que essa não tem ?
Eu fiz um vídeo explicando todas as diferenças (não são muitas). Por favor, procure no meu canal :) Gearfacts
With the noise reduction, when I hit a snare it still produces a buzz in the signal.. How can I fix this? Do I have a faulty guitar?
no, it just sounds like your input or output level is just a tiny bit too high.
@@gearfacts Okay thanks I'll try it out
Hello, what would be your advice? get this one or a used rp355? thanks!
Definitely the used RP-355, it has a much cleaner, more professional sound.
@@gearfacts Thanks very much!
How is this pedal for just the effects? Not worried about modeling
I thought it was a bit "meh" but lots of other people are really happy with it. I got better results from Nux, particularly the MG-300 I reviewed recently, I thought it was exceptional.
Some of the best out there and surpasses effects costing 2x the cost of the G1 Four, IMO.
@@aiden_macleod yeah. I've had it a few months now. I think it's awesome. A real junk drawer of effects, I use it to perform. Some people complain the metal settings are limited, but if you spend just 5 mins dialing in whatever you want the world is there. I love it
@@BOBANDVEG Absolutely couldn't agree more. I'm sure if it had the name BOSS or REVV on it instead of ZOOM people wouldn't be so stuck up towards it.
@@aiden_macleod I recommend it to anybody. If your broke, it's an inexpensive multi effects box. If your just new , it's a great way try pedals and sound combos before investing in "higher" end dedicated pedals. In a word , I would describe the effects quality as "medium" , lol.
Can you get better?, without a doubt. Can you get worse? Hell yea you could do worse.
Plus....I mean, I dont know about you, but my mom a dad didnt buy me my first high end guitar, or boutique pedals. So I'm grateful for everything in one for $100 lol.
My mom would've smacked me if I asked for $300 reverb pedal.( rain in the dessert reverb, by terry)😁
How do you delete a patch you've created?
Thanks
You have to go into the function menu for that. Or simply delete all the effects from the patch, which will make it blank/bypass.
Thanks! Do you know if it works well with other pedals?
Yeah it works pretty well, you just have to be careful to get the input and output levels sounding good.
@@gearfacts awesome thanks so much
@@gearfacts gonna buy one this week then👍 I appreciate your response
Yes, it does.
What about storing patches and calling up patches quickly for performance?
When your editing is all done you just press STORE twice (You can choose location after the first press)
@@gearfacts thank you my friend !
Dear how can be store tone
It stores any changes you make automatically :) Gearfacts
@@gearfacts thanks brother
What effects should I mix in order to have an awesome distortion pedal for punk rock and hard rock?
Put Overdrive before a fuzz effect. Lots of treble in the EQ. Then choose and amp sim that pleases you :) GF
@@gearfacts ty very much for your help :)
@@jrz7947 My pleasure :)
That's totally up to you.
Now the cab sim is a separate effects block you actually get 1 less effectcompares to the G1xon
Yep, this is a good point and definitely one to consider before purchasing. GF
Why does this demo sound hard and brittle, is it the unit or awful amp EQ ?
I think the sound is weird, becouse the mic is off.
you can see that in 4:29
Definitely. Gearfacts
Sir, Which one will be the great choice, G1xon or G1X four?
G1xon if you like crazy sounds, G1on if you like classic sounds :) #gearfacts
Hello, this pedalboard carries impulse response?
Some effects have impulse response, yes GF
Yep.
Always tune up to pitch if you want your guitar to stay in tune...
Yep that's the way I do it. Hope you enjoyed the video!
@@gearfacts I have the same unit coming today but with expression pedal. I have a small channel that I started this spring. Unfortunately I had to sell all of my gear. Amp sims dont inspire me really, hoping this unit meshes with me, and I can get back to growing my little channel. I watched a few of your vids on this...
Hello Sir, can i connect it to pc and record directly like a zoom g3x? Or i need an audio interface to record?
Hi CS, no you cannot record directly from USB. You will need an audio interface. GF
Thanks Man. Nice vid. Btw.
Audio interface.
Does anyone know a patch similar to "Metal Riff" from the G1X on for the G1X 4? cannot find nothing that sounds very metallic:^(
What I always find to be the best way of getting that kind of tone is to use the Alien or Diezel Amp sims, mix them up with a booster (the t-scream or the ep boost in this one) and a graphic eq set in a mid-boost configuration. If you want to do it only with stompboxes, try to do it with a dist +, the ep booster and the graphic eq in the same configuration.
Other question: what happens if you press the Led buttons in the memory mode?
It switches between 5 consecutive patches. :) Gearfacts
Does it have sustain effect ?
yep
Can i use this with computer speaker instead of an amp?
yep :)
Are the amp models & effects bettet than the MS50G?
Much the same. Your audience certainly wouldn't know the difference :) #gearfacts
How do you build a patch on an empty patch slot?
Just go into edit and add effects to the blank spaces. Same way as if there was an effect already there :) Gearfacts
@@gearfacts Thanks I'll try that
@@gearfacts Worked like a charm👍
Read the manual.
Why can't they implement "pages" in the g5n? :(
Excuse me, as a G5n owner I would like to know which kind of issue is the one You reported. I am italian, so I could not catch everithing in the video......
@@littlebritain64 well with the g5n, effects that have more than 4 parameters take 2 slots, so if you have a cab sim, amp sim and an eq, 6 slots are taking already! If they simply added the pages system like this g1, you could actually use all 9 slots properly
@@jameelahamed6615
Thanks for answering!!👍
Bc that would make sense
What i dont like on my g1 four is that background noise....and it only works with my electro acoustic guitar and not with my electric guitar......strange no !!!! it will need and preamp before the pedal.....
Is it easy to change different effects for live performances
Yep, it just has to be set up right :) #gearfacts
Easiest way is to clone patches as neighbors, then add effects to one patch so switching back and forth works like a toggle for your effect.
yes.
Oh my goodnes I am so dumb I didn't even notice the NR in ZNR is for Noise Reduction
haha took me a few months as well. And the Z I guess is for ZOOM.
Octave effect sucks... and you should do a video on the PC program showing how you can add and download new pedals off their software
Yeah I already did that
Hey. How do i add patch files to my Zoom guitar lab? Thank you
Hi EET, I made a video about this: ua-cam.com/video/QQRZ5Go7dYk/v-deo.html
You just build them like you would in Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Podfarm, TH-U, etc.
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How to remove niose back round sound pollution?
It has a noise reduction effect called ZNR, it works very well. /gf
Gearfacts Can I use the ZNR for reduce the noise of other pedals (stmpboxes)???
Best is the ZNR.
@@valeriadiaz2717 It will effect the chain so run the ZNR last in the chain
Where is the Noise Gate? I cannot find it
It's in the 'dynamics' category, it's called "ZNR"
@@gearfacts Thanks Very Much my friend. Found it and using it now. Amazing little effects unit.
Then you should look again because there are at least 5 of them included in the pedal.
There must be a more efficient way to find the effect you want than having to tap through 90 choices every time.
Yes, you can arrange them into groups, and also set up shortcut changes.
Your hand isn't even in the frame, how are we supposed to know which button you're pressing??
I think I mentioned it in the commentary, but there's also an online manual available. Happy to answer any questions.
This or MS-70cdr?
I’d choose this one over the cdr. Gearfacts
@@gearfacts Oh man really? Thank you, I quasi buying the CDR and then: - boom! New zoom multi-effects! Thank you for the feedback.
Is there tap tempo?
Yep :) #gearfacts
@@gearfacts is it in the computer software or in the hardware? I have found only global tempo in the hardware.
How to restore to factory settings ?
Press the memory/stomp/edit button then turn the power on, then follow the instructinos on the screen. /gf
@tony green Yeah as I recall there's no power switch, you turn it on at the wall
How much?
About $US100
@@gearfacts 😱 it is about 800, 900 here in Brazil
$89.00 across the planet.
The effects sounds better than g1on?
I think there is a slight improvement in clarity - but I've literally only have a couple of hours using it, so more differences may become apparent. I'll be uploading more G1-FOUR videos tomorrow :) Gearfacts
@@gearfacts a Lot of thanks for your answer , become More tasty changue my g1on for The four :P
@@gearfacts How is it compared to single-purpose effects from well known companies like Boss or MXR?
@@TheActualTed Funny you should say that, because those effects are already in the G1 Four. ProCo Rat, MXR Distortion +, EHx Small Stone, EHx Big Muff, Boss MetalZone, etc. They all sound pretty accurate and have the same controls as their real-life counterparts.
@@aiden_macleod I already bought the pedal almost 2 years ago. The sound quality isn't stellar but the number of effects is still pretty impressive. Good enough for my casual playing
This thing sounds really harsh and noisy
Cool :)
Actually, it doesn't.
Lot of buzz feedback throughout.
There is indeed.
WHAT BUTTON ARE YOU PUSHING???.
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED RO GUESS?
What function re you looking for? Happy to help.
You are very smart, but we have no idea what you are doing when you press buttons off screen. Your brain must be amazing as it is all over the place at once.
Why don't you read the manual, all of you 10 year old kids who seemingly can't follow directions anywhere these days.
The whole button and switch system is complete bullshit, impossible to navigate, impossible to get back to playing. This box should be great, but the lousy controls make it a useless piece of shit
Not my exact thoughts, but I must say I do prefer Zoom’s older control systems, especially the classic G2
Are you 10? What the hell is the matter with you. Save energy on tantrums and read the damn manual instead. A monkey can get this to function.
How do I add a noise gate? The noise is just too much
Noise gate has to be added as a separate effect. You can scroll through the list of effects until you find it. There are several different types of noise reduction :) #Gearfacts
Add it like any other effect?
How would YOU do it any different?
BTW, ANY hi-gain effect produces noise.