What if Mussolini Survived

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  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean Рік тому +311

    What Do YOU Think? Did Mussolini REALLY Convert To Islam?
    Let me know in the comments below. ⬇️

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +32

      Well, the man would have converted intitially for political conveniace but later would have truly embraced the religion when it his success became apparent and wanted to truly become the symbal he made himself to be.

    • @conovan5081
      @conovan5081 Рік тому +8

      Blessed Edvige Carboni saw him in purgatory so no.

    • @balrog262
      @balrog262 Рік тому +8

      No, we know from Saint Pio of Pietrelcina he died as a Catholic and is among the saved.
      He saw him in Purgatory.

    • @mynose4540
      @mynose4540 Рік тому +5

      It’s kinda weird that locals followed him cause Mohammed is the last prophet according to the Quran

    • @Baller474
      @Baller474 Рік тому

      ​​​@AzureWolf168basically there will be this guy that will be born in Ethiopia with three eyes. people will bully him and then he will eventually become a monster. Jesus/Isa will come down from heaven to defeat him. The monster guy is gonna say join me. Don't because his heaven is hell. That monster guy is called Dajjal.
      Mahdi is gonna be born in the Muslim world. He will unite the Muslims and conquer Israel. If Israel stop existing, the day of judgement is near. Mahdi will eventually die and Islam will become a minor religion. Now you know the difference between Mahdi and Dajjal (the monster looking ass). And if Islam is the true religion, what I said would happen but if Christianity or any other religion is the true religion then it won't happen.

  • @falloutfan1452
    @falloutfan1452 Рік тому +214

    This is by far the most insane alt-history scenario i've ever seen

    • @aceofconquest5745
      @aceofconquest5745 Рік тому +4

      Interesting though, the civilization building was entertaining

  • @polishscribe674
    @polishscribe674 Рік тому +137

    4:30 Mussolini: I have brought peace, justice, wellness and respect to my Italian Lybia

  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean Рік тому +355

    Was great doing that little segment for Carthaginian Mussolini.

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +10

      Great seeing you here man!

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean Рік тому +14

      @@danielsantiagourtado3430 Likewise, pal!

    • @monsieurcharcutier4490
      @monsieurcharcutier4490 Рік тому +9

      ​​@@MonsieurDean it's awesome how you help smaller creators Both of you guys are doing good work! Cheers

    • @fabioartoscassone9305
      @fabioartoscassone9305 Рік тому +1

      @@MonsieurDean Z? uauhahuahuahuahuahuahuahua

    • @JustAToeBee
      @JustAToeBee Рік тому +2

      I thought the next person in the "Scar Nicholas Verse" would be Mussolini, but with Adolf not being an painter in the carthaginian Mussolini World, will be still see Mussolini in the "Scar Nicholas Verse"?

  • @AndreasProdromides
    @AndreasProdromides Рік тому +55

    Actualy Mussolini's full name was Benito Amilcare Mussolini ,Amilcare comes from Hamilcar ,the name of Hannibal's father ,who hated the romans so much that made his son swear an oath to never be a friend with rome .

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +186

    Amazing video as always, here's a suggestion:
    What if Napoleon III won the Franco-Prussian war?

    • @monsieurcharcutier4490
      @monsieurcharcutier4490 Рік тому +9

      I'd like to second that suggestion

    • @imperiumgallicum
      @imperiumgallicum Рік тому +5

      Germany remain divided and the second Empire is overthrow some decade later.

    • @CapCody
      @CapCody Рік тому

      No WWI but the French would have the ehemony over Continental Europe, the german states would probably be vassals of France and Prussia a minor state, that or until Austria recovers from his looses and tries to unify 60% of Europe into a single state annexing the other german lands

    • @neversafefromwaluigi416
      @neversafefromwaluigi416 Рік тому +1

      Impossible he’s french

    • @CaptainJackSparrowSavvy
      @CaptainJackSparrowSavvy Рік тому +1

      ​@@neversafefromwaluigi416 Sir! Napoleon (the first) lost the Battle of Waterloo
      Or, as they would say it in France:
      Monsieur! Napoléon (le premier) a perdu la bataille de Waterloo

  • @mr.williamh1270
    @mr.williamh1270 Рік тому +75

    MOST INTERESTING alternate history of Carthage. I'm actually writing an alternate history novel on Carthage! I'm soooo happy you used the Arabic word for Carthage, I'm doing that in my novel as well. Great minds think alike, although I believe my novel will be better than the plot of this video (wink). Will be sure to get you and Mr. Z a free copy when it's complete. Cheers Brothers.

  • @noahjohnson935
    @noahjohnson935 Рік тому +53

    Mussolini's tactics to try and win over the Libyans honestly reminds me of how Napoleon tried to win Egypt

  • @raymazing
    @raymazing Рік тому +12

    Least insane alternate history scenario

  • @CatotheE
    @CatotheE Рік тому +19

    A Carthaginian Mussolini? I don't know where you guys come up with these alternate history ideas. I've never even thought of this one. It's inspiring tbh.
    Of course, I do think that if Mussolini escaped, he'd have to keep a low profile. If any Italian was going to be executed after the war, it would be him.

  • @acttaslam9364
    @acttaslam9364 Рік тому +32

    This needs a part 2.

  • @Cyningisc
    @Cyningisc Рік тому +60

    This is so unbelivably esoteric, you have delivered a great work upon this world Josh! May Allah awaken the people and help them to see the evildoings of the Allies and the good of Mussolini

    • @Briselance
      @Briselance Рік тому +1

      Erm... who genocided whom, exactly?
      That's right.
      Roma VICTRIX.

  • @patrickrooney971
    @patrickrooney971 Рік тому +72

    By Allah, this Is Glorious

  • @imperiumgallicum
    @imperiumgallicum Рік тому +28

    I think in your scenario you underestimate that France will not leave his colonies easily, espacially algeria, espacially against an enemies who occupied southern France during ww2. In your timeline two coups take place in France to trying to prevent this redraw. I think in this timeline, they are two outcome, first France support local state(s) against Mussolinie or they try to hold on major costal cities.

  • @CaptainJackSparrowSavvy
    @CaptainJackSparrowSavvy Рік тому +8

    "I decided to his t take it easy, and do a normal, reasonable, video. Nothing crazy, just a nice simple scenario"
    "so... Let's talk about Mussolini"

  • @bismarck2385
    @bismarck2385 Рік тому +11

    I love everything about this wild series!!! Please keep it up gentlemen! Brillant and entertaining.

  • @username12120
    @username12120 Рік тому +10

    Neo-Carthage-Egyptian 1960s desert war. Now that's a hell of a what-if scenario to wargame!

  • @amogusmale
    @amogusmale Рік тому +25

    Is he going to be in the scar Nicholas story line? Would be so based. Oh and i think it would be a good idea if the flag was just plain purple with a golden crescent and star

  • @yamamotohiromori419
    @yamamotohiromori419 Рік тому +17

    I don't know how to feel about this honestly

  • @AmericanImperium1776
    @AmericanImperium1776 Рік тому +17

    8:25 Based Gaddafi. Rip
    Hail Caliph Mussolini!

  • @leondonmaya8878
    @leondonmaya8878 Рік тому +18

    is this related to the Scar Nicolas timeline?

  • @leontes
    @leontes Рік тому +5

    Within the first minute I knew this video would be a banger, and I was not disappointed

  • @MohabWali08
    @MohabWali08 Рік тому +13

    Me as A Libyan I Loved This Video So Much

  • @imperiumgallicum
    @imperiumgallicum Рік тому +22

    An interesting scenario can be : what if the allied reinstalled Mussolini after ww2 for preventing an expansion of communism ?

  • @ultimategmoneyremaber1821
    @ultimategmoneyremaber1821 Рік тому +19

    What if Yugoslavia stayed a kingdom

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator Рік тому +1

      What if Yugoslavia was Fascist? ("Slavic-Fascist Yugoslavia" scenario)

  • @benjaminobienu5297
    @benjaminobienu5297 Рік тому +8

    Awesome video, Josh and Mr. Z! I Really like the idea of Carthage being revised, for there are a few videos on an alternate history where Cathrage is restored. This outstanding work, you too, and please keep up the excellent work, my friends!
    I have some suggestions that are very interesting for future alternate history videos:
    What if the Mughal Empire never fell along with an intact Byzantine Empire? Here's an exciting part of this alternate history: What if one of the Mughal Emperors married a Byzantine Princess? In a timeline, the Ottomans had not taken the Byzantine Empire with Constantinople. Instead, the Palaiologos Dynasty remained in power, and one of the Mughal Emperors married a Palaiologos princess to secure an alliance? The question is how alliance for this marriage is its purpose? Economically, military, beneficial, or both? In your own opinion, how would the Romans, Western kingdoms, and Indian subjects react to the marriage, and would they care or oppose it? Would a personal union exist between the Mughals and the Palaiologos similar to the Spanish Habsburgs? Would the Mughal Empire and the Byzantine combine into a mighty empire with a dual monarchy identical to the Avegin Empire with the Plantgenats, Austria-Hungary, and possibly Hanover to the United Kingdom? Was it possible for the Mughals to rule the Byzantine Empire with the Palaiologos dynasty died out, and would the court of Byzatuim accept the Babur dynasty as the new dynasty to rule the Eastern Roman Empire, or they rejected it for some political reasons? If so, then could you explain why? Just imagine Indo-Roman or Byzantine-Mughal Empire expanding into Eastern Europe and Asia, rivaling the Habsburgs and being allied to many kingdoms in Western Europe.
    Did you know that the Mughals are descendants of the Mongols and Timur, aka Tamerlane? And one Ottoman Sultan married a Byzantine Princess. Ivan the Terrible was the grandson of Sophia Palaigiona, daughter of Thomas Palaiologos, and younger brother of Constantine XI ( 11) Palaiologos, making Ivan the Terrible, his grandnephew.
    What if William the Conqueror became King of France and unified France into Normandy's banner and plans to invade the English Isles? What would France and the United Kingdom be like under the House of Normandy?
    What if the Song Dynasty managed to unify China and was able to push back against the Mongols and invade Mongolia? What China be like under the Song Dynasty and how would history be different for China, and would there be a massive expansion of China to expand into East Asia?
    What if the Decemberists won the civil war and turned Russia into a Constitutional Monarchy? What would Russia be like if the Decenvberists had won and Russia was a western-influence constitutional monarchy with a parliament and a Tsar who is a figurehead and who would be Tsar with the Deecembrists took power?
    Which of these scenarios do you like best, which have you never heard of before, and which are your favorite and which you do not like.

    • @Cyril_2009
      @Cyril_2009 Рік тому

      i highly doubt it could ever happen

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Рік тому +2

    "Hannibal" Mussolini managing to take Sicily, Sardinia, and Corsica?
    Yeah, fat chance of that.😅

  • @ItsSkaiy
    @ItsSkaiy Рік тому +2

    dude, this is amazing, just the bacjground is so good, im subbing fella, u deserve it

  • @markuhler2664
    @markuhler2664 Рік тому +2

    Lol - I loved this. Freaky weird, farther-fetched than any althis I've watched/read, but logical enough to go with it.
    Still going through your past stuff but with the 3 I've watched so far, especially this one, I'm sticking around.

  • @xhontafaruci3445
    @xhontafaruci3445 3 місяці тому +1

    Remember This is the guy saying possible history videos are to ridiculous

  • @AuoraWolf5911
    @AuoraWolf5911 Рік тому +8

    10:28 what the fuck was this some April fools joke getting delayed

  • @herodotasgamer2942
    @herodotasgamer2942 Рік тому +4

    I love this so much, especially when Mr. Z Crashed the party to add some good ole alien space bats.

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard Рік тому

    When Dean comes in by lightning to spice up your scenario you know it's popcorn time.

  • @lactosetheintolerant.
    @lactosetheintolerant. Рік тому +2

    I’d love for this to be a secret Italian rout in Hoi4

  • @NavyVet9702
    @NavyVet9702 Рік тому +4

    Chad Muslim Mussolini can't hurt you. He doesn't exist.
    Chad Muslim Mussolini:

  • @Exiledschizo
    @Exiledschizo Рік тому +4

    I don't know what I was expecting from this, but it definitely wasn't a Mussolini caliphate

  • @Lorenzo-yc7zh
    @Lorenzo-yc7zh Рік тому +1

    The mear idea of a Carthaginian Mussolini scares me

  • @t.wcharles2171
    @t.wcharles2171 Рік тому +11

    the Basement dweller has returned to us

  • @JAKE-em5xr
    @JAKE-em5xr Рік тому +1

    Made in style of Scar Nicholas very cool video m8

  • @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb
    @PaoloCavestro-ey9bb 6 місяців тому +1

    What if Europe, Middle East, America and Africa had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?

  • @eaturcookiescookie7462
    @eaturcookiescookie7462 Рік тому +1

    This looks perfect for a red flood focus tree

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Рік тому +1

    06:12
    Axis-occupied North-Africa?? They performed that poorly in Greece and in rhe Balkans, and equally poorly in the French part of the Alps (I was told they were very reluctant to go to war against France, seeing her as a sister country), and they would manage to invade and keep Tunisia and Algeria and Morocco??? Highly unlikely. Nigh impossible, even.

  • @tammynordhoff9199
    @tammynordhoff9199 11 місяців тому

    Sometimes when I watch your videos I *completely* forget I'm watching *alternate history* .

  • @fritoss3437
    @fritoss3437 Рік тому +18

    I can see France leaving Tunisia but France would have never left Algeria just like that

  • @BlackTemplar_Legionary1392
    @BlackTemplar_Legionary1392 Рік тому +2

    As a video suggestion. I heard that Francisco Franco thought of offering the Spanish Crown to Otto von Habsburg and was wondering. what if Franco gave The Crown to Otto after his death, and thought would change if Otto took the Spanish Throne

  • @jeancaron9325
    @jeancaron9325 Рік тому +1

    Not Joing the Axis is the Best for him to Survived for Years.

  • @veldrensavoth7119
    @veldrensavoth7119 Рік тому +2

    Me: sees Carthaginian Mussolini
    My brain: CALL THE COPS

  • @karimsyan5798
    @karimsyan5798 9 місяців тому +3

    This is very disrespectfull 10:29
    I am disappointed that you did this
    No matter what you say you should not talk like this at all about Islam and it's figure

  • @dominicadrean2160
    @dominicadrean2160 Рік тому +17

    If there's one country you could be king or queen of in the Middle Ages or the Renaissance which one would it be

  • @seankane8628
    @seankane8628 Рік тому +1

    What if Mussolini had remained neutral, creating a alliance of Italy, Spain, and Turkey as a counterweight to both Germany And Britain?

  • @nortondobbins
    @nortondobbins Рік тому

    What kind of fever dream did i just witness

  • @Onezy05
    @Onezy05 Рік тому +8

    Alternate title: what if Mussolini didn't get turned into ravioli by an Italian crowd?

  • @mattthesilent777RED
    @mattthesilent777RED Рік тому +6

    What if James II of England gave his son, the old pretender, to one of his protestant daughters or something like that?

  • @orirotem2298
    @orirotem2298 Рік тому +1

    Hannibal:now new carthage will destroy rome to avenge me

    • @ghostlion8616
      @ghostlion8616 11 місяців тому

      God: Hannibal, Rome was defeated by Germanic tribes more than 1000 years ago.
      Hannibal: yes, excellent!

    • @orirotem2298
      @orirotem2298 11 місяців тому

      @@ghostlion8616 😆

  • @SocialistBosniakDeist
    @SocialistBosniakDeist Рік тому +2

    Mussolini would be good Caliph honestly

  • @patton360games3
    @patton360games3 Рік тому +1

    Id love to see this a alt history book or series of books

  • @megareavermickeybot7985
    @megareavermickeybot7985 Рік тому +1

    Almost thought this was going to be like an extra episode of Scar Nicholas series but that seems impossable if this was set after world war 2 with the normal version of Hitler and the communist world still being a thing.
    This makes me wonder then what Mussolini would be getting up to in the Scar Niccolous universe?

  • @luckyaristotle
    @luckyaristotle Рік тому

    9:00 Had to double check the date to make sure it wasn't April 1st

  • @JHohenhauser
    @JHohenhauser Рік тому +6

    Red Flood Scenario. Very cool!

  • @davestylehenry
    @davestylehenry Рік тому +3

    I want a part 2

  • @pontifexremigio3854
    @pontifexremigio3854 2 місяці тому

    I desperately need the part 2.

  • @chrisalex82
    @chrisalex82 Рік тому +1

    the scenario took a very unexpected turn (skull emoji x3)

  • @foxalpha09
    @foxalpha09 Рік тому

    What's the music at 9:13 called. Its not in the description and I am in love with it.

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому +4

    E se o Imperador da última Dinastia chinesa houvesse tomado outras atitudes em relação ao grande consumo do ópio, evitando as Guerras do Ópio.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +8

    YEEEES! another awesome video!
    Suggestion what if princess charlotte of wales survives and becomes queen

    • @benjaminobienu5297
      @benjaminobienu5297 Рік тому

      Princess Charlotte would have been the queen the United Kingdom deserves, and she was what was called Princess Diana back in the day.

  • @stephenquinn3447
    @stephenquinn3447 Рік тому +8

    Excuse me, *W H A T ! ?*

  • @j.cisclarke8036
    @j.cisclarke8036 Рік тому +1

    Why does he sound like prince Zuko from avatar the last air bender

  • @harrypadwal2623
    @harrypadwal2623 Рік тому +1

    This should be a hoi4 mod

  • @molmonlomek6336
    @molmonlomek6336 Рік тому +1

    US being a champion of the people and against suppresive regimes is the most hilarious shit i heard today

  • @yimmuy
    @yimmuy 6 місяців тому

    if Gaddafi survived and become Roman Emperor.

  • @conorisacoff7910
    @conorisacoff7910 Рік тому +2

    How would it effect gaddafi

    • @linmyatmg1028
      @linmyatmg1028 Рік тому +2

      He becomes a normal person that nobody knows about

  • @AlimTetramorph
    @AlimTetramorph Рік тому +2

    That was a ride

  • @danentakoto2701
    @danentakoto2701 Рік тому

    This is awesome.

  • @Oujouj426
    @Oujouj426 Рік тому

    Tunis does not sit atop Carthage, theyre in different locations.

  • @UwU-xk5cx
    @UwU-xk5cx Рік тому

    This is Whatifalthist level cursed

  • @savagedarksider2147
    @savagedarksider2147 Рік тому +7

    Mussolini's new Roman Empire wouldn't have as much territory as the original Roman Empire. It would also be seen as A joke compared to the original as well.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Рік тому +1

    What if Mussolini never came to power in Italy?

  • @sourpusstv7984
    @sourpusstv7984 3 місяці тому

    Can you site sources though?

  • @jasonfrancis9262
    @jasonfrancis9262 2 місяці тому

    And you think possible history does bad scenarios.

  • @janrudnicki6111
    @janrudnicki6111 Рік тому +1

    Very good

  • @electricangel4488
    @electricangel4488 Рік тому +1

    Abul: muhammed da fuck you on about
    Muhammed: bro i tell you its that italian dictator, he heard the word of allah and says to be the new calliph
    Abul: brother that is Insanity
    >bennito walks by<
    Abul: ... Thats the italian dictator

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому +2

    E se um membro da família real Japonesa se casasse com o herdeiro ao trono de um Império Importante de 1800/1900, como o Império do Brasil ou Britânico.

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому

    "E se o Tratado de Tordesilhas fosse feito usando a Linha do Equador, deixando Portugal com o Sul e a Espanha com o Norte".

  • @MalachiCo0
    @MalachiCo0 Рік тому

    So is this canon to the Scar Nicolas universe, or...

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Рік тому +1

    Small thing... God never has aknodlged any name even with my talks with him as a prophet he never calls him self anything as he believes Humans should be the ones to names things not him self.

  • @dominicadrean2160
    @dominicadrean2160 Рік тому +14

    What if Italy was neutral during WWII Italy would have been much better off😅

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому +1

    E se Constantinopla não caísse em 1453.

  • @kaiserinjacky
    @kaiserinjacky Рік тому +1

    what.

  • @SafavidAfsharid3197
    @SafavidAfsharid3197 Рік тому

    I think it would be called Maghreb rather then Carthage.

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому

    Ps: Sei que provavelmente me odeias por chover comentários sobre ideias para temas em outra língua (português), mas tenho essas ideias há um tempo e talvez tivessem mais proveito aqui. :v
    E sei que você pode traduzir os comentários. :)

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому +1

    E se o Império Romano conseguisse sobreviver na Península Itálica.

    • @Captain_Ender
      @Captain_Ender Рік тому

      So we'd have western and eastern Rome for a while?

    • @ImperatorArchangelus
      @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому

      @@Captain_Ender Yes. The short-term repercussions may be few with this weakened Empire, however, imagine the long-term repercussions, especially for the Italic Peninsula.

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому

    E se, durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial, parte da Família Real Britânica houvesse fugido para o Canadá e formado um Reino Independente.

  • @CheekyGoblim69Interprise
    @CheekyGoblim69Interprise Рік тому +2

    May Allah carry Mussolinis spirit on.

  • @michaelpsellos770
    @michaelpsellos770 Рік тому

    What if Mussolini was Lisan al Gaib instead of Duce

  • @bonesyjonesy716
    @bonesyjonesy716 8 місяців тому

    My brother in Christ, what is this? Lol

  • @jeffjones4654
    @jeffjones4654 Рік тому

    What if Napoleon didn't invade Russia in 1812?

  • @ImperatorArchangelus
    @ImperatorArchangelus Рік тому

    E se Maria Leopoldina não houvesse morto e se tornasse a Imperatriz do Brasil até Pedro II ter a maioridade legal.

  • @ghostlion8616
    @ghostlion8616 11 місяців тому

    It would be interesting what if Socialists didn't kick out Mussolini.

  • @taffingtonboathouse5754
    @taffingtonboathouse5754 Рік тому

    I thought it was scar Nicolas thing. Drat!

  • @real_logangifty07
    @real_logangifty07 Рік тому

    I got a request (if you dont ask request in the comments)
    What if dutch just colonize new zealand after discovered it