***pinning this since everyone who comments misses the point*** Like I say in the short, obviously the pitch of your switch will influence the sound. but it's on such a micro level in comparison to everything else in a keyboard. The case, keycap profile/material, plate, mods, acoustics all have a significantly bigger influence on sound, as shown in the video. I could put the thockiest switch i own into that bakeneko, and my kbd67lite with the clackiest switch i own would still sound thockier. Personally, I would look for a switch that has the best specs and reviews (smoothness, stem wobble, quality of spring, build quality) instead of searching for the "thocciest switch". lets be real, the thockiest switch is probably Topre. If all you care about is pitch, then buy a fully plastic topre board and call it a day. Lets say the internet told you that gateron Black Inks are the deepest thocciest switch. Well, you buy them, put them in your board, but... they're too heavy of a spring for you and you hate typing on your board, oh and they're also scratchy asf. Does sound really matter if the keyboard doesnt feel good to type on? You're better off searching for a switch you'lll actually like in terms of the feel over the sound. Hope that helps everyone looking for a switch. stem wobble, spring quality (lack of crunch), leaf ping/spring ping, smoothness are all things you should worry about more, in my opinion.
It is NOT a micro level with all switches is it though. I have some Bulbasar for example (PC top/base housing POM stem) that are far far deeper than every other switch I have, like the pitch has been down shifted. This is not subtle it is a HUGE difference. Yes you can adjust the sound by what/how you build the board but a long pole short travel switch will be always be far louder than a more "normal" switch in the same board. I get what you are saying but think you downplay the effect the switch can have, sorry :)
lol yea in a hobby of MICRO differences this is such a bad take. People want to know what the deepest sounding switch is so they can weigh that properly over the other properties of the switch. Not to mention modders. Sure the number one deepest switch might be a bit heavy, but could you do a spring swap and keep some of those sound benefits while getting a better spring? Could you do a better lube job and get rid of some of the rattle? These other factors can be worked on.
There are, this video is just wrong and trying to deflect that switches sound different and DO contribute to the sound of the board. Get a switch with PC top/bottom and that will make even a Milky Yellow Pro feel like a very clacky high pitch switch.
@@fansmx4more like, the denser they are the higher their pitch is, and you can find their density using Google, for example are the plates of boards, the higher they weigh and the denser they are, the more higher they're pitch goes, there's a video regarding this with keyboard, better watch that for more info!
Ok, but for the people who actually don't need to be educated in logical thinking [and can ignore the other filters from the equation, coming from the other sound-alternating factors in keyboard-world] ... what is the deepest switch in your opinion? Because after all, the question is legit nevertheless! Don't get me wrong, it's a nice and short version of the 'Keybored-Video' anyway! :)
That’s a secret that every keyboard guru wants to keep hidden. They know what the thockiest switch is, but they tell you that ‘thock’ doesn’t even exist and that you have to do more ‘thinking’ instead of ‘thocking’. If you find out let me know. I’ll continue my endless research as well.
If you want the real answer, It's OG Ink Blacks. Overshadowed nowadays by the Oil Kings, and the 1000th JWK recolor, it still holds the title for being the deepest sounding stock switch. Most of the people I know in the hobby swear by the OG Ink Blacks. They're basically the Holy Pandas of linear switches.
@@J7T800 No the actual deepest sounding switch is the boba u4t and can be seen in the brendan b keyboard sound test. ua-cam.com/video/oKW0DgQKJHA/v-deo.html As for why, no one knows since the housing material is proprietary and people just label it as boba housing.
It’s literally a t shirt modded tofu, also cream sodas are creampaca level deepness. The cream sodas use a Pom stem similar to the one of khail reds while the u4t uses one with a much thicker stem. The boba housing has also been used in multiple of attempts for the worlds deepest keyboard, meaning that it’s reputation is quite large and no matter what you say the u4t is still respected by almost all members of the community as the deepest switch to ever exist. Heck, I could ask Punkshoo himself and he would probably agree with me.
@kediw doesn't matter nearly as much as the stuff the commenter above listed... but if i had to say THOCKIEST, maybe boba LT for linear, and idk bobas for tactile? but i'd argue that the feel is much more important. I personally can't stand how Bobas feel, so i'd recommend getting a switch tester kit from like canonkeys or something to help you decide. seriously, DO NOT pick by sound. if you dont like typing feel, you wont like the board you build.
plastic case = thocky. i think enthusiasts that really want to chase that sound are in luck because the thockiest cases i’ve seen & heard are ALL in the budget range. higher priced keebs w/ all aluminum casing will sound higher pitch no matter what you do
That is a really good point! The KB case profile/size & material. (And whether you mod it: forcebreak, killmat, tape mod, wtvr) The material of the switch plate. Even the keycap profile and material. All those things will have an impact on how the switch sounds, but in different ways. The case act as the resonance box on a guitar. Then the switch plate depending on the material used, will accentuate certain sounds of the switch. Aluminum will tend to be good if you like higher frequency sounds. Whereas something like PC will tend to resonate lower frequency sounds. Keycaps seems to have to do with their size. So Cherry vs SA. This is getting into subjective territory. But I found that the taller the keycap the deeper the sound, it also tends to emphasize popping. One thing is for sure. Unless you are listening to as ound test where the person lists all the materials (or at least a keyboard name you can look up to confirm the parts) it's not necesiarlly going to sound the same on your keyboard. Also whether or not you lube the switch yourself. Depending on the quality of the factory lube. It can also change the sound profile rather significantly in cases where there is on, or bad factory lube. Make sure you check whether you are listening to stock or hand lubed switches.
Yes you can modify any keycap switch and board to sound amazing and I’m going to be doing a crazy mod that’s never been done before when I build my box jade keyboard.
Put as much blu tack as I could fit inside the case keycaps and top frame (it has really good sound deepening properties), and modded a jade switch on the esc key to have a tactile bump 4x stronger than stock just for a laugh. But it is satisfying to press.
okay so but what is the thockiest switches? people know that keyboards influence the sound of the switch but there are switches are thockier than others like a c3 tangerine vs aqua kings v3.
switches with a pom housing and a long pole stem will give you a deeper sound, try filming and lubing switches with 205g0 which is ideal for a deep sound
true except for the long pole part. that is not necessarily something that will produce a deeper sounding switch, often times it creates a bigger clack than you'd think.
so why didnt you give the list of componets each keyboard had to make it sound like that since you did such a good job explaining that deiffrent keebs have diffrent sound signatures regardless of just switch
This didn’t answer my question tho, I’m trying to min max this so I need to know the least clacky switch, to pair with the right membrane and and right case material and foam
***pinning this since everyone who comments misses the point*** Like I say in the short, obviously the pitch of your switch will influence the sound. but it's on such a micro level in comparison to everything else in a keyboard. The case, keycap profile/material, plate, mods, acoustics all have a significantly bigger influence on sound, as shown in the video. I could put the thockiest switch i own into that bakeneko, and my kbd67lite with the clackiest switch i own would still sound thockier. Personally, I would look for a switch that has the best specs and reviews (smoothness, stem wobble, quality of spring, build quality) instead of searching for the "thocciest switch". lets be real, the thockiest switch is probably Topre. If all you care about is pitch, then buy a fully plastic topre board and call it a day.
Lets say the internet told you that gateron Black Inks are the deepest thocciest switch. Well, you buy them, put them in your board, but... they're too heavy of a spring for you and you hate typing on your board, oh and they're also scratchy asf. Does sound really matter if the keyboard doesnt feel good to type on? You're better off searching for a switch you'lll actually like in terms of the feel over the sound.
Hope that helps everyone looking for a switch. stem wobble, spring quality (lack of crunch), leaf ping/spring ping, smoothness are all things you should worry about more, in my opinion.
It is NOT a micro level with all switches is it though. I have some Bulbasar for example (PC top/base housing POM stem) that are far far deeper than every other switch I have, like the pitch has been down shifted. This is not subtle it is a HUGE difference.
Yes you can adjust the sound by what/how you build the board but a long pole short travel switch will be always be far louder than a more "normal" switch in the same board.
I get what you are saying but think you downplay the effect the switch can have, sorry :)
hi could you send me the link for that storage box where did you buy it ? regards
lol yea in a hobby of MICRO differences this is such a bad take. People want to know what the deepest sounding switch is so they can weigh that properly over the other properties of the switch. Not to mention modders. Sure the number one deepest switch might be a bit heavy, but could you do a spring swap and keep some of those sound benefits while getting a better spring? Could you do a better lube job and get rid of some of the rattle? These other factors can be worked on.
“What’s the thocciest switch?” *laughs in membrane*
thats just mushy
@@ccqpl how?
@@stringtai do you not know the difference between mushy and thock?
Bro my membrane keyboard thocks, every membrane keyboard is different
@@ccqpl yes but I’m just saying mushy>>
So maybe a better question would be, "What switch will CONTRIBUTE to making the thocciest keyboard?"
eplison switch
Oil kings
foam
u dont need switches u just need foam
This same youtuber lubed Gateron CJs and the sound was incredibly deep.
Great quick answer!
Thank you!
I get that, but as a component, there has to be switches that add a deep thock at the level of switches in the chain.
There are, this video is just wrong and trying to deflect that switches sound different and DO contribute to the sound of the board.
Get a switch with PC top/bottom and that will make even a Milky Yellow Pro feel like a very clacky high pitch switch.
@@WarrenLeggatt the softer the housing material the deeper the sound?
@@fansmx4more like, the denser they are the higher their pitch is, and you can find their density using Google, for example are the plates of boards, the higher they weigh and the denser they are, the more higher they're pitch goes, there's a video regarding this with keyboard, better watch that for more info!
Glad to see you like them! Much love from Elboard ^_^
They are fantastic, review in the next day or so!
If you're from elboard please fix your website I can't order anything
@@dizzydizzydizzydizzy we just fixed it! thank you for your patronage! We were in the middle of a big move, I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
I feel like they'd probably know that if they're asking, it's still helpful to know which switch produces a deep sound though.
What is the deepest switch if you put them all in the same keyboard with the same mods?
Where can I get that switch storage it looks so clean
Just a normal storage boxes, that she used for switches.
Ok, but for the people who actually don't need to be educated in logical thinking [and can ignore the other filters from the equation, coming from the other sound-alternating factors in keyboard-world] ... what is the deepest switch in your opinion? Because after all, the question is legit nevertheless! Don't get me wrong, it's a nice and short version of the 'Keybored-Video' anyway! :)
That’s a secret that every keyboard guru wants to keep hidden. They know what the thockiest switch is, but they tell you that ‘thock’ doesn’t even exist and that you have to do more ‘thinking’ instead of ‘thocking’. If you find out let me know. I’ll continue my endless research as well.
If you want the real answer, It's OG Ink Blacks. Overshadowed nowadays by the Oil Kings, and the 1000th JWK recolor, it still holds the title for being the deepest sounding stock switch. Most of the people I know in the hobby swear by the OG Ink Blacks. They're basically the Holy Pandas of linear switches.
@@J7T800 No the actual deepest sounding switch is the boba u4t and can be seen in the brendan b keyboard sound test. ua-cam.com/video/oKW0DgQKJHA/v-deo.html
As for why, no one knows since the housing material is proprietary and people just label it as boba housing.
It’s literally a t shirt modded tofu, also cream sodas are creampaca level deepness. The cream sodas use a Pom stem similar to the one of khail reds while the u4t uses one with a much thicker stem. The boba housing has also been used in multiple of attempts for the worlds deepest keyboard, meaning that it’s reputation is quite large and no matter what you say the u4t is still respected by almost all members of the community as the deepest switch to ever exist. Heck, I could ask Punkshoo himself and he would probably agree with me.
I need that organiser/drawer!
Good job, explaining this. Now not everyone will ask you that!
You say that, but this question will be asked till the end of time
@@coleydotmp4 You right, but aiiii, when u get famous only 5 out of 6 people will be asking
@@coleydotmp4 oh yess .... I'm still gonna search for the thocciest switches, after watching this short....😂😂😂
@@tokyo_it_is focus on making sure u pick the thockiest board first, friend. trust me. been doing this a while.
@@coleydotmp4 okeyy.... I trust you 😉😄
It’s never a good idea to have music when you’re doing a sound test…
case material, plate material, dampening, hollowness, keycap thickness, keycap material and pcb all make a difference in sound
exactly
@kediw doesn't matter nearly as much as the stuff the commenter above listed... but if i had to say THOCKIEST, maybe boba LT for linear, and idk bobas for tactile? but i'd argue that the feel is much more important. I personally can't stand how Bobas feel, so i'd recommend getting a switch tester kit from like canonkeys or something to help you decide. seriously, DO NOT pick by sound. if you dont like typing feel, you wont like the board you build.
even the desk mat is a factor
Nicely demonstrated!
What organizer shelves are those?
Nylon, Long Pull, Lube only Stem, No Foam, Alu Plate/Case boom high pitch clack, very hard
I love milky switches
plastic case = thocky. i think enthusiasts that really want to chase that sound are in luck because the thockiest cases i’ve seen & heard are ALL in the budget range. higher priced keebs w/ all aluminum casing will sound higher pitch no matter what you do
true, I only realized it when I got both aluminum and plastic case
Hi, may I get the link to where you can find your switches storage cabinet?
I was super surprised by the very distinct difference in sound, most of the time it’s slightly but you can definitely tell in this video
That is a really good point!
The KB case profile/size & material. (And whether you mod it: forcebreak, killmat, tape mod, wtvr)
The material of the switch plate.
Even the keycap profile and material.
All those things will have an impact on how the switch sounds, but in different ways.
The case act as the resonance box on a guitar.
Then the switch plate depending on the material used, will accentuate certain sounds of the switch. Aluminum will tend to be good if you like higher frequency sounds. Whereas something like PC will tend to resonate lower frequency sounds.
Keycaps seems to have to do with their size. So Cherry vs SA. This is getting into subjective territory. But I found that the taller the keycap the deeper the sound, it also tends to emphasize popping.
One thing is for sure. Unless you are listening to as ound test where the person lists all the materials (or at least a keyboard name you can look up to confirm the parts) it's not necesiarlly going to sound the same on your keyboard.
Also whether or not you lube the switch yourself. Depending on the quality of the factory lube. It can also change the sound profile rather significantly in cases where there is on, or bad factory lube. Make sure you check whether you are listening to stock or hand lubed switches.
Gateron north poles are the deepest sounding linears ive seen
Wich keycard did you use for your kdb65
i like your switch container, do you have a link for that container to share?
thank god someone finally someone said this
Capitalize the Lord’s name and don’t take his name in vain
Yes, and which one contributes more towards thocky?
You can compare them on the same plate with the same keycaps and all.
Right? Just because there's more parts to a thoccy keyboard doesn't mean there isn't a thocciest switch lol
That switch storage solution is awesome, may I ask where you got it?
The container store! www.containerstore.com/s/craft-hobby/stackable-craft-organizer-drawers/1d?productId=11008488
Yes you can modify any keycap switch and board to sound amazing and I’m going to be doing a crazy mod that’s never been done before when I build my box jade keyboard.
What mod?
Put as much blu tack as I could fit inside the case keycaps and top frame (it has really good sound deepening properties), and modded a jade switch on the esc key to have a tactile bump 4x stronger than stock just for a laugh. But it is satisfying to press.
This needs to be addressed more lol People don’t understand that there’s so much more that goes into the sound of a keyboard
Where did you get that switch storage? I love the way you can store all your switches in a shelf like look
can we get a link for the storage unit you put your switches into?
your switch collection is like my sisters toy collection
Great explanation. Could not have said it better!
Foam and tape are really good mods
What are you using to store all your switches? That white box thing? I need one haha
okay so but what is the thockiest switches? people know that keyboards influence the sound of the switch but there are switches are thockier than others like a c3 tangerine vs aqua kings v3.
Were did you buy the thing you store your switches in??
I need one too
While it does depend on the switch, I think that it is more influenced on other factors like case, foam and some keycap types.
Are the cyan switches loud?, because im looking forward to buy a keyboard with a cyan switch
I love the setup.. jealous of your boards..but whered you get those storages for your switches?
The container store! its actually one of the only products from them that i feel is reasonably priced too - i think it was only $20
Gateron Green switches are the ultimate choice!! 😊
nice video!! this reminds of a video where some youtuber interviewed other keeb memebers asking what “thocc” means
for some reason i cant seem to find that video :(
the switchs in the second board sounds like its puring
what is the name of this gateron? and the bottom out is heavy? thank you
Hey, what are u using to record keyboard typing sound? thanks.
Please put a link to the drawers you put your switches in please 🙏 🙏🙏🙏☺️
Can you give me the where to buy the switch box like you in this video? Thanks!
What switch is in the bottom right corner ? It’s two toned clear top with purple bottom? ?
where did you buy you switch container?
Yes you're right but at the same time it also depends on the materials the switch is made out of.
imma be honest i kinda came here looking for the answer even tho I knew this lmao
Do you have Matcha Lattes in one of those drawers? (Those are my faves)
what is the poppiest or creamiest switch??
I’m more curious where you got the drawers you store the switches in I need something like that!
Container store! it was only $20ish which is pretty cheap for them lmao. i have a tiktok about it but i forgot exactly what it's called.
How much u is the switches? And where can you find them?
Please tell me where can i get that switch container from
What switches are those?
The softer the housing material the deeper, heavier keycaps too
What switches were the blue and purple in the drawer?
What’s the name of the switch container?
Hi there, What are those keycaps on your kbd67? Especially those orange ones?! They look so clean!
the white ones look like geekark BoW, I have those on mine too
kbd67lite seems to have gmk 8008 or gmk8008 clones, hard to tell without seeing the full set
I always have to explain this to my friends that start out in the hobby. Now I can just show them this short :)
Would you mind linking the switches? They have such a funny name
the gateron pro browns are super thocky especially with a foam mod or keyboard mat
did you mod the 2ncd keyboard?
did you lube the switches yourself?
Where do you get them?
those sound more like clack, but you're right on it depends on the keyboard material as well.
Second one sounds like my cat purrrrrrrrrrrring
god the switches looked huge at first
what plate do you have on the kbdfans 67 lite
It’s the holy panda😊
Caps and mods also play a massive role
Excuse me, may I ask where you got your switch storage at? I love it.
container store!
Where did you get those containers
switches with a pom housing and a long pole stem will give you a deeper sound, try filming and lubing switches with 205g0 which is ideal for a deep sound
true except for the long pole part. that is not necessarily something that will produce a deeper sounding switch, often times it creates a bigger clack than you'd think.
@@coleydotmp4 oh
Mmm the KBD sounds like a cat purring. I could listen to that forever.
Where can I buy that switch?
The sound on the second keyboard sounds like its purring bro 😭😭
Where did u buy that thing you keep the switches im
Sounds like cats purring
What is the name of those switches?
so why didnt you give the list of componets each keyboard had to make it sound like that since you did such a good job explaining that deiffrent keebs have diffrent sound signatures regardless of just switch
because this is a youtube short and i don't have time for that lmao. watch my full length vids for more in depth info on keyboards
because the video is created by a woman. They never get to the point.
People may ask what the thocckiest switch is, but my question is what is that *super cool* switch storage you have? I'd love to know where to buy it!
I need that switch storage box so hard. 🤘🏻
God this is such an old video, but I’m still gonna ask, what is and or where can I get that container drawer setup you have for the switches
i think ikea but if its not from there, there is a wall thing on what you can attach boxes like those
Sounds so good 🤤
Bros got the speed switches 🥱
Can you see what would sound good in a magegee sky 68 plz🙏
"Gateron verbelian burts"
Sorry I'm russian
FINALLY. THANK YOU!
I mistook them as epsilons at first. What plate are you using on both boards?
Polycarbonate on kbd67 (stock) and fr4 on bakeneko. though i think a POM plate for bakeneko would be best for thock.
sounds like a purring cat
"Whats the thockiest switch" laughs in buckling springs.
This didn’t answer my question tho, I’m trying to min max this so I need to know the least clacky switch, to pair with the right membrane and and right case material and foam
membrane?
Different materials and different mounting systems as well
It sounds like a cat purring
just press the button
Can I buy you’re keyboards they look very cool and sound very good