A long time ago, there actually was a smart watch that used a colored e-ink display. The Pebble Time. After Pebble was sold off, I was always amazed that the technology didn’t seem to get iterated on much. It seemed like it had a ton of potential, especially with how smooth the animations were on that watch.
Yes! It always amazed me how that watch's display seems to have been forgotten about. I still use it to this day (thanks Rebble) and it's honestly incredible smooth and colorful it is. It obviously isn't as vibrant as a traditional display, but it's still one of the best e-inks I've ever seen. I imagine it's small size has something to do with it, but I would have hoped that almost a decade of technological innovation would have made that technology more widespread in e-readers and such. Edit: After reading through some more comments, turns out the Pebble Time was an "e-paper" display which is a different technology. The more you know! I still think my last sentence still applies, that the low-power, paper-like display market should have developed so much more by now. Whether is issues with patents, lack of research or funding, or whatever reason, it's still a shame and I hope the slow uptick in these kinds of devices help push these technologies forward.
I used to own a Pebble Steel which had the black and white screen but it didn't last long before the screen malfunction and the display fade away when I press the side botton. I got sent a replacement but the replacement suffered the same issue after a few weeks of usage.
i feel like the fact that a single company holds all the patents to e ink technology makes innovation less likely to appear, since that company is the only source of advancement in this field and there is no competition.
The reveal that it was really just a normal E-ink display, but with a color-filter, was somehow mindblowing. Reminds me of how CRT screens did the same thing. Tho, it also explains the muted colors, and why they didn't go with a subtractive color scheme (CYMK) even tho they're dealing with physical pigments.
Agreed, companies such as Sony, Seiko, and Fossil Hybrid all use E-ink displays but the common consumer aren’t attracted to them so they got low sales and died out. Features/price is a common factor most people care about. Tech that looks old is unattractive to them. “If it looks old, it has to be cheap. If it’s not cheap, I would rather get a Samsung/Apple/Garmin instead”
As an owner of several Pebble watches, @@Tomazack is correct, the screens are a very-low-power type of LCD. They don't have the ghosting problems that e-ink has, resulting in higher usable refresh rates (though "update rate" is probably a better term to use with e-ink), but they still require power to maintain a static image. I think some people were confused because they're transflective, meaning they use reflected ambient light most of the time but have a backlight if you need to see it in the dark (the slightly underhanded marketing didn't help).
@@JerryRigEverything From someone who just got 9 stitches in his thumb from basically this same thing, BOY missing a functional thumb seems so much worse than missing any other finger lol. Also, the numbing of it to get those stitches put in... that was not fun.
@@Frozty I did it to my side palm in the fatty area of the palm. A lot of stitches and I could actually see the fat cells inside the side palm. Very cool and painful. Ha ha.
Awesome video! Just a note: E-Ink devices have frontlights, with LEDs sitting in the bezel either on the side or bottom/top of the screen. The light is guided by a light carrier film on top of the e-ink screen, so the screen is evenly lit.
@Wo-Lad E-Paper is E-Ink. E-Ink is a type of E-Paper display technology. E-paper is a general terminology for any display technology trying to mimic actual paper. E-Ink just does the best job of mimicking Paper compared to any other display technology.
@@riddhi5764 I just thought it was a funny thing that happened. I was not looking for admiration at all. Funny thing about text is you can't detect tone, or intent. I'll give you the benefit and assume there was a point to your comment as well :)
i think some devices in the past have been able to do this, but the tradeoff is that the higher refresh rate leaves more ghosting, so it's usually a setting.
Boox’s super refresh technology is really good, the best in the industry but it is more intensive on the battery. What users are really complaining about is that BSR is always turned on. You get 10x more battery life on the Note Air 3 (B/W) than the Note Air 3C.
I have the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus G4 with colored eInk secondary display. The display is very much like the one shown here - probably from the same factory, too. The Lenovo has two options for driving the eInk: A high-refresh mode with 12Hz that has decent ghosting and very bad contrast and colours - as seen here. The other mode is called 'reader mode' with maybe 2Hz, long input lag and terrible ghosting, but the colours are *much* more vibrant. Great for reading books or comics, but useless for anything where the content changes with any regularity.
@@gaydoomguy They’re e-paper, low power LCD like in Casio watches. More accurately, transflective LCD (it’s and LCD that reflects light with an optional backlight). E-ink is a company and brand name that uses the particle up/down system that the pebble did not use. (E-ink is now synonymous like Kleenex).
But still absolutely fascinating at the same time. It's amazing the progress being made on E-ink displays. The fact that we already have colour E-ink displays capable of showing (albeit ghosty) full motion video is astounding to say the least.
Grocery stores now use this technology (they have been for a few years now) to display product SKUs and prices. When there is a price change the update can be made with a simple device like a smartphone. I think some are even wi-fi enabled so as to allow prices to be changed remotely. I would like the idea of an e-ink display on a transit pass, so that you can see how many tickets are left on the card, or even a credit card, so that you can selectively display information.
That would be really awesome if you can have your credit card numbers toggled on and off with an e-ink display and also have it show your balance. The displays can be very thin, so it could be possible.
Right ? it has more functionality, is more snappy and have more FPS, but I think the ghosting is quite a bit more present on the bad side, is it a setting that can be changed maybe ?
@@ADP4031 Yes, Boox devices have 5 levels of screen refresh. From "full refresh with black phase all the time" to a dithered high-fps mode that's suitable for video.
There are screen differences too of course. But usually it has less to do with the screen than the processing board. The more regular e-book focused readers mostly go for battery time and use as low power CPU and OS as possible. Like the typical Kobo. But some using the exact same screen (Tolino for example) have a more powerful CPU and run Android. They are perceived as updating faster because of this. The downside, battery time. Being counted in days instead of weeks.
3:38 Actually, in Europe that _is_ Skittles-level of colour brilliance. In the US food colouring is more vibrant because the Azo inks are legal to use in food. Not in Europe. So the colours of children's sugary foods are not as brilliant but they don't have the negative health effects of US food colourings.
Even if it is accomplished, the power consumption would exceed an LCD display. A T-LCD or R-LCD could accomplish it. You could try a mixture of dithering + interlaced or mosaic technique on eink to increase fps, but that can look ugly.
This was a great video!! Al the little jokes and running commentary was priceless and had me snickering and outright laughing at several points... I also enjoyed the casual destruction and the soothing calm voice as you went through it like a wrecking ball... even more so with getting a much closer look and understanding of what they did with the tech. As always, great stuff!
I see a lot of people in the comments commenting on how Pebble was the first to introduce color e-ink to the market with their watches. You are wrong. Pebble color screens were not e-ink, just normal LCDs with reflective backplates like a gameboy color. It uses very little power but it still uses power and is not e-ink. Another similar and still updated watch with similar screen as the Pebble is the Xiaomi Amazfit Pace aswell as some other cheaper xiaomi watches. They have a "always on display" that is a reflective lcd screen. Pretty cool nonetheless.
@fluffy_unicorn859 Garmin has made both black and white as well as colored one. Not sure about their current line up but I owned a colored vivowatch for 3 years
I know many people have issues with E-Ink displays due to refresh rate and other factors. But we need to understand that e-ink was created to replicate paper on an electronic device. And given that, it has been hugely successful. I myself own a Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition 11th generation, and trust me it is a game changer for avid readers. You wont ever have to buy a book from a local store again. And as for colour e-ink displays, its going to be a revolution for Manga readers, if the colour version is available.
I have a pebble time smartwatch, which if I am not mistaken uses the same technology. The battery life after all these years still beats my android based smartwatch. I always wonder why no other smartwatch companies continued using the tech.
Actually that's a bit different, the pebble has a better refresh rate without ghosting but the screen does not stay on without power. However it is very energy efficient too.
Yeh I have both the kickstarter models. The OG was a lot easier to read, but having colour was cool for almost 10 years ago. Both batteries expired, so i am reluctantly wearing a galaxy. I think i'll upgrade and get a garmin next, I think they have something similar to the eink, at least that's my understanding of the outstanding battery life they exhibit.
The pebble watch used a type of LCD screen that had chips next to every pixel that allowed it to save power not e-ink. The reason not many companies use e-ink is because one company owns the patents on e-ink and that means that no other company can use it without paying exorbitant amounts of money for something that may not sell.
My son recently got hold of a color e-ink tab, he uses it for all his reading anymore. He's in love. He's eriously jazzed about the on-but-unpowered nature of the display between refreshes.
@@vmusatov yeah but when you want to mix pigments to create colors you need to use cmyk, like in printers. Rgb is for mixing light, like in smartphone screens.
@@tomer4789 on paper you can’t add any more light, so you subtract it with CMYK. It’s not about colour preferences, it’s about how you can accurately represent the range of colours
@@hastyscorpion hm. You’re right. I didn’t think it through. It’s just when I was a kid I was unable to get yellow by using red and green pencils. It felt impossible and counterintuitive
Video suggestion: try reviewing a Gallery 3 e-ink product! Those have colored particles and no filter, but a way slower refresh rate. The Bigme Galy is a device using this technology, but it flopped and was discontinued
I've become mildly obsessed with e-ink because of screens burning my eyes out constantly from the light emmited. hopefully the tech will improve! its awesome to see that color versions are possible!
4:34 LCDs (Liquid Crystal Displays) typically do not have colored diodes. Instead, they use a combination of a white backlight and colored filters to produce images. Here’s a more detailed explanation of how this works: Backlight: LCDs use a white backlight, which is often composed of LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) that produce white light. This backlight illuminates the entire screen from behind. Liquid Crystal Layer: The liquid crystal layer controls the amount of light that passes through by aligning the liquid crystals in different ways when an electric current is applied. This alignment changes the light's polarization. Color Filters: In front of the liquid crystal layer, there are color filters arranged in a grid of red, green, and blue (RGB) sub-pixels. Each pixel on the screen is made up of three sub-pixels, one for each primary color. Sub-pixel Control: By varying the alignment of the liquid crystals in each sub-pixel, the amount of light passing through the red, green, and blue filters can be controlled independently. This allows the display to create different colors by combining different intensities of these primary colors.
I have an AMAZEFIT BIP S smart watch which has a Trans reflective display that gets brighter under direct sunlight. That's always on and lasts around 3 weeks on a full charge. Somethi like this sounds pretty cool.
I have one of these tablets, and I use it for reading a lot of colored comic books. It's not as vibrant as an actual printed comic book, but it's still really good for reading comics, and I absolutely love it. I take my entire comic collection with me wherever I go. I have poor eyesight, so I love the big screen and the fact that you can pinch to zoom.
I’m pretty sure the unidentified design feature on the side is there to indicate the presence of a magnet that is intended to keep the optional pen accessory attached to it. It’s not a very strong magnet, so I wouldn’t trust it, however. Also, I am fairly certain that most of the BOOX tablets with “matte” displays are in fact using glossy glass with a textured plastic layer pre-applied at the factory. It is nice to know that they’re using strong, scratch resistant plastic for that.
Color eink are popping up in some cities. Traffic signs, bus arrival schedules, traffic lights… there’s some shops that fully replace their price labels with b/w eink. And they sometimes have a solar panel to assist them (no they’re not fully reliant on them, but they’re connected for fallback)
It is impressive how little progress in 10 years (or so) e-ink have made with colour screen. Still virtually the same as the one I had in hands 10 years ago
I dunno why, but I find it so cool when a technology that on first glance seems obsolete, still has it's use cases and is still being improved on and advanced forward.
This is a pretty crazy advancement. Always wanted an e-ink device for taking notes in class, but not being able to color code certain sections was kind of a deal breaker for me. Might have to check this thing out a bit more.
Interesting to see the technology up-close! The scratch test though was essentially made on the screen protector, and not the glass itself. I wonder how scratch resistant the device would be if the screen protector were to be removed.
6:45 you are simply mistaken here. There are 16.7 million colors in the SRGB color space, which Samsung, for example, has exceeded since HDR support in the S8 in 2017. The HDR10 color space, for example, has 1.07 billion colors, to be exact. This is a common misconception because SRGB was the standard for a long time, but I had to call this out because you said TO BE EXACT when you are two orders of magnitude too low for the device on screen.
Wow, it's so interesting that even now as this technology has matured, the granules are still randomly shaped, like film grains. So how do we find the pixel boundaries?
I have an insulin pump (Medtronic), and it has a LCD/E-ink display. It's bright and colorful in low light, and also vivid and readable in direct sunlight, just more monochrome. It doesn't appear to switch between the two... more like they are on different layers or something.
I didn't realise until just a couple of months ago that Aldi, is using e-paper screens to display the priices of their products because one started glitching.
I've just learned that e-ink screen pixel have texture like film grain, this might just be a better screen type for movies in the future, if some companies dare to invest in to fix the low refresh rate and limited color.
I think a phone with this would be awesome. Still capable to do all the things a normal phone can do without being TOO boring, but would probably help me spend less time on my phone.
A long time ago, there actually was a smart watch that used a colored e-ink display. The Pebble Time. After Pebble was sold off, I was always amazed that the technology didn’t seem to get iterated on much. It seemed like it had a ton of potential, especially with how smooth the animations were on that watch.
man, an eink display on a smartwatch sounds amazing
Yes! It always amazed me how that watch's display seems to have been forgotten about. I still use it to this day (thanks Rebble) and it's honestly incredible smooth and colorful it is. It obviously isn't as vibrant as a traditional display, but it's still one of the best e-inks I've ever seen. I imagine it's small size has something to do with it, but I would have hoped that almost a decade of technological innovation would have made that technology more widespread in e-readers and such.
Edit: After reading through some more comments, turns out the Pebble Time was an "e-paper" display which is a different technology. The more you know! I still think my last sentence still applies, that the low-power, paper-like display market should have developed so much more by now. Whether is issues with patents, lack of research or funding, or whatever reason, it's still a shame and I hope the slow uptick in these kinds of devices help push these technologies forward.
@@RayRayIsCoolio it was
I used to own a Pebble Steel which had the black and white screen but it didn't last long before the screen malfunction and the display fade away when I press the side botton. I got sent a replacement but the replacement suffered the same issue after a few weeks of usage.
i feel like the fact that a single company holds all the patents to e ink technology makes innovation less likely to appear, since that company is the only source of advancement in this field and there is no competition.
The reveal that it was really just a normal E-ink display, but with a color-filter, was somehow mindblowing. Reminds me of how CRT screens did the same thing.
Tho, it also explains the muted colors, and why they didn't go with a subtractive color scheme (CYMK) even tho they're dealing with physical pigments.
i literally googled cymk eink just cuz i got so confused by the rgb microscope pics lol
Its the same for Remarkable Pro right?
Yeah, but analog video has infinite colors. Good comparison nonetheless.
Just pretending to not be broken - Aren’t we all. Truer words never spoken
Searching for this exact comment. Glad i found it.
That hit close. He suddenly made the tablet so human and relatable
my e book reader just did that two days ago... he pretended 😔
"Arent we all" no not really.
E ink watch seems like a great idea! Battery life is way more important than refresh rate when it's just doing wrist watch things.
Pebble Time smart watch used coloured eink
Agreed, companies such as Sony, Seiko, and Fossil Hybrid all use E-ink displays but the common consumer aren’t attracted to them so they got low sales and died out. Features/price is a common factor most people care about.
Tech that looks old is unattractive to them. “If it looks old, it has to be cheap. If it’s not cheap, I would rather get a Samsung/Apple/Garmin instead”
@@simmmomom No. It was coloured LCD disguising as e-paper, not e-ink.
As an owner of several Pebble watches, @@Tomazack is correct, the screens are a very-low-power type of LCD. They don't have the ghosting problems that e-ink has, resulting in higher usable refresh rates (though "update rate" is probably a better term to use with e-ink), but they still require power to maintain a static image. I think some people were confused because they're transflective, meaning they use reflected ambient light most of the time but have a backlight if you need to see it in the dark (the slightly underhanded marketing didn't help).
Jerry's fingers must be immune to tiny glass shards.
9:40 that was a close call for your finger
its ok - I have spares.
@@JerryRigEverything 🤔
@@JerryRigEverything From someone who just got 9 stitches in his thumb from basically this same thing, BOY missing a functional thumb seems so much worse than missing any other finger lol. Also, the numbing of it to get those stitches put in... that was not fun.
@@Frozty I did it to my side palm in the fatty area of the palm. A lot of stitches and I could actually see the fat cells inside the side palm. Very cool and painful. Ha ha.
Do you now @JerryRigEverything
Can it run DOOM?
It's good to see people asking the important questions.
I would say and its current state
His sure can’t
i bet and i want to see this done
Everything runs doom. It's like everything tastes likes chicken. It just does.
It's running android, so yes.
"Patient survival is optional" scariest words you can hear as a patient 😂
tablets, fortunately, are a bit light on emotion
@@blarghblarghFor now...
Medic from Tf2
Awesome video! Just a note: E-Ink devices have frontlights, with LEDs sitting in the bezel either on the side or bottom/top of the screen. The light is guided by a light carrier film on top of the e-ink screen, so the screen is evenly lit.
I loved that they're making and improving the e-ink technology
The Pepple watch was eInk, but I don’t think they are produced any more.
@@HansMilling e-paper, not e-ink, different tech
@Wo-Lad E-Paper is E-Ink. E-Ink is a type of E-Paper display technology. E-paper is a general terminology for any display technology trying to mimic actual paper.
E-Ink just does the best job of mimicking Paper compared to any other display technology.
@@GalaxyFur the e-paper used in the pebble time was an LCD panel, not the normal, licensed e-ink, that's what I meant
in China
My daughter dropped a glass on the floor and when it shattered I told her it’s ok because glass is glass and glass breaks.
Wow! 😮
Good parent❤❤❤
glass maybe but not but not COMMUNIST GLASS !
google "Superfest" for more information
So?
What's the point to comment that on this video? Do you need unnecessary admiration for it?
@@riddhi5764 I just thought it was a funny thing that happened. I was not looking for admiration at all. Funny thing about text is you can't detect tone, or intent. I'll give you the benefit and assume there was a point to your comment as well :)
If you've ever seen other eInk displays, the refresh rate on this screen is insane!
i think some devices in the past have been able to do this, but the tradeoff is that the higher refresh rate leaves more ghosting, so it's usually a setting.
The refresh rate really reminded me of those awful passive STN displays from the early/mid-2000s. Honestly, not bad.
Boox’s super refresh technology is really good, the best in the industry but it is more intensive on the battery. What users are really complaining about is that BSR is always turned on. You get 10x more battery life on the Note Air 3 (B/W) than the Note Air 3C.
Dasung and hisense are even faster
I have the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus G4 with colored eInk secondary display. The display is very much like the one shown here - probably from the same factory, too.
The Lenovo has two options for driving the eInk: A high-refresh mode with 12Hz that has decent ghosting and very bad contrast and colours - as seen here. The other mode is called 'reader mode' with maybe 2Hz, long input lag and terrible ghosting, but the colours are *much* more vibrant. Great for reading books or comics, but useless for anything where the content changes with any regularity.
2:38 Bro literally said "Rubber protection is always a good idea" ☠
Yes it is
No regrets 💀
No shit that's the joke
Are you a real person?
BRO SAID BRO SAID BRO BRO BRO OH MY BRO IM BROING OH BRO PLEASE BRO THATS SO BRO
@@stilldre7739yeah no shit
An e-ink smart watch would be genius! I'd definitely use one
pebbles were e-ink, you can use rebble to keep em going in the modern day
I have a fossil gen 6 hybrid. It uses an E Ink display, honestly love it
Yes
@@gaydoomguy They’re e-paper, low power LCD like in Casio watches. More accurately, transflective LCD (it’s and LCD that reflects light with an optional backlight). E-ink is a company and brand name that uses the particle up/down system that the pebble did not use. (E-ink is now synonymous like Kleenex).
Amazfit bip lite has a similar display. I had one and loved it!
That was genuinely hard to watch. I felt bad for the device. 😢
Lol
Yes, I'm holding last year's model of this device in my lap now. Watching this really hurt.
But still absolutely fascinating at the same time. It's amazing the progress being made on E-ink displays.
The fact that we already have colour E-ink displays capable of showing (albeit ghosty) full motion video is astounding to say the least.
I have the same device and I treasure it so much. Brutality in this video almost made me cry.
Makes it even worse than I probably can't afford one.
Grocery stores now use this technology (they have been for a few years now) to display product SKUs and prices. When there is a price change the update can be made with a simple device like a smartphone. I think some are even wi-fi enabled so as to allow prices to be changed remotely. I would like the idea of an e-ink display on a transit pass, so that you can see how many tickets are left on the card, or even a credit card, so that you can selectively display information.
That would be really awesome if you can have your credit card numbers toggled on and off with an e-ink display and also have it show your balance. The displays can be very thin, so it could be possible.
Whole thing gives me Cyberpunk vibes
"it's broken, but it's pretending to be ok" and I took that personally.
This display is much more snappy than others I've seen. Very cool. Thanks for the breakdown.
Right ? it has more functionality, is more snappy and have more FPS, but I think the ghosting is quite a bit more present on the bad side, is it a setting that can be changed maybe ?
@@ADP4031 Yes, Boox devices have 5 levels of screen refresh. From "full refresh with black phase all the time" to a dithered high-fps mode that's suitable for video.
There are screen differences too of course. But usually it has less to do with the screen than the processing board.
The more regular e-book focused readers mostly go for battery time and use as low power CPU and OS as possible. Like the typical Kobo. But some using the exact same screen (Tolino for example) have a more powerful CPU and run Android. They are perceived as updating faster because of this. The downside, battery time. Being counted in days instead of weeks.
3:38 Actually, in Europe that _is_ Skittles-level of colour brilliance. In the US food colouring is more vibrant because the Azo inks are legal to use in food. Not in Europe. So the colours of children's sugary foods are not as brilliant but they don't have the negative health effects of US food colourings.
Same here in SA, Smarties, Skittles, M & Ms, etc. all have a very similar muted pallet
Now we need a 240hz E ink display
Won't happen any time soon, because these involve moving material in the pixel, which means physical travel time.
check out daylight computer. they are making a 60hz non flicker e-ink tablet
E-Ink at 240Hz is just like an inferior OLED
why? that would defeat the entire purpose of it.
Even if it is accomplished, the power consumption would exceed an LCD display. A T-LCD or R-LCD could accomplish it. You could try a mixture of dithering + interlaced or mosaic technique on eink to increase fps, but that can look ugly.
I was actually planning on buying this exact tablet soon. Very nicely timed video.
Too bad it's now in pieces...
@@Daniel-yy3ty 😂
@@Daniel-yy3ty You win the internet today
This was a great video!! Al the little jokes and running commentary was priceless and had me snickering and outright laughing at several points... I also enjoyed the casual destruction and the soothing calm voice as you went through it like a wrecking ball... even more so with getting a much closer look and understanding of what they did with the tech. As always, great stuff!
Comes with a little rubber sleeve on cap .
“Rubber protection is always a good idea”
😂😂
lol how do I not see these 😂
😆
(In reality, it's to protect the pen nib from being bent while not in use)
Ironic, considering this cap has a through hole on the tip.
Omg is that a reference to a condom LOL !
Burns like hell when I piss... shoulda worn a rubber.
-bandits in Far Cry 3
I see a lot of people in the comments commenting on how Pebble was the first to introduce color e-ink to the market with their watches. You are wrong. Pebble color screens were not e-ink, just normal LCDs with reflective backplates like a gameboy color. It uses very little power but it still uses power and is not e-ink. Another similar and still updated watch with similar screen as the Pebble is the Xiaomi Amazfit Pace aswell as some other cheaper xiaomi watches. They have a "always on display" that is a reflective lcd screen. Pretty cool nonetheless.
My e-ink smartwatch was the best purchase I've made in a long time. Would love a colour version.
fluffy_unicorn859i have a fossil hybrid hr that lasts almost two weeks on a single charge with customisable watch faces
@fluffy_unicorn859 Garmin has made both black and white as well as colored one. Not sure about their current line up but I owned a colored vivowatch for 3 years
Same
Garmin Fenix is color e ink.
Look up the Pebble Time smartwatch.
They were ahead of their time.
6:31 bro literally said "my Note 24 ultra", lol 😂
bro he is technacaliy not wronge
as s24 ultra is also sometimes refferd as note 24 ultra
Now that's a great improvement to e-ink displays. Love these for books.
I know many people have issues with E-Ink displays due to refresh rate and other factors. But we need to understand that e-ink was created to replicate paper on an electronic device. And given that, it has been hugely successful. I myself own a Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition 11th generation, and trust me it is a game changer for avid readers. You wont ever have to buy a book from a local store again. And as for colour e-ink displays, its going to be a revolution for Manga readers, if the colour version is available.
I have a pebble time smartwatch, which if I am not mistaken uses the same technology. The battery life after all these years still beats my android based smartwatch.
I always wonder why no other smartwatch companies continued using the tech.
Actually that's a bit different, the pebble has a better refresh rate without ghosting but the screen does not stay on without power. However it is very energy efficient too.
Yeh I have both the kickstarter models. The OG was a lot easier to read, but having colour was cool for almost 10 years ago. Both batteries expired, so i am reluctantly wearing a galaxy. I think i'll upgrade and get a garmin next, I think they have something similar to the eink, at least that's my understanding of the outstanding battery life they exhibit.
The pebble watch used a type of LCD screen that had chips next to every pixel that allowed it to save power not e-ink. The reason not many companies use e-ink is because one company owns the patents on e-ink and that means that no other company can use it without paying exorbitant amounts of money for something that may not sell.
"...It's broken, it's just pretending to be okay."
bro it's just just like me frfr
My son recently got hold of a color e-ink tab, he uses it for all his reading anymore. He's in love. He's eriously jazzed about the on-but-unpowered nature of the display between refreshes.
Rubber protection is always a good idea. Will keep that in mind. Thanks Jerry
6:32 ah yes, the note 24 ultra, once again, jerry doesnt know about tech, he just takes them apart
nooo coz it's realy like the note so he's right 👍🏼😅
It's intentional
A smartwatch with this technology would be a insane fr
I have one of these and it's probably my current favorite tech device.
watch the video "Electronic Paper - See What Happens" by Posy if you like this screen tech.
Video actually starts at 2:05 to skip the ad.
I always love the last word "Thanks a ton for watching, I will see you around" always satisfying to hear and let's thank Jerry for his consistency.
oh my poor heart, I didn't know he would do that to the device, I'm so sad.
This was sooo cool to see. Thanks Jerry!
I feel like using cmyk instead of rgb would be a lot more suitable for more vibrant colors
Nope, your eye has three types of cones, which detect three colours, and those colours are RGB. Can’t get better than that
@@vmusatov yeah but when you want to mix pigments to create colors you need to use cmyk, like in printers. Rgb is for mixing light, like in smartphone screens.
@@tomer4789 on paper you can’t add any more light, so you subtract it with CMYK. It’s not about colour preferences, it’s about how you can accurately represent the range of colours
@@vmusatov it sounds like you are agreeing with him. E ink displays don’t emit light.
@@hastyscorpion hm. You’re right. I didn’t think it through. It’s just when I was a kid I was unable to get yellow by using red and green pencils. It felt impossible and counterintuitive
Always been a fan of e-ink. It needs to become more mainstream. Amazing device for studying without distractions.
Video suggestion: try reviewing a Gallery 3 e-ink product! Those have colored particles and no filter, but a way slower refresh rate.
The Bigme Galy is a device using this technology, but it flopped and was discontinued
I completly dont know why i thought he would say in the beginning but colour is colour and colour breaks. As i paused on 0:03
Great move with the carton shipping bags, love that ❤
I've become mildly obsessed with e-ink because of screens burning my eyes out constantly from the light emmited. hopefully the tech will improve! its awesome to see that color versions are possible!
Every year something interesting comes up, great videos Zack
Color eink is actually pretty old already but it has a hard time since ppl don't really buy eink for colors haha
4:34
LCDs (Liquid Crystal Displays) typically do not have colored diodes. Instead, they use a combination of a white backlight and colored filters to produce images. Here’s a more detailed explanation of how this works:
Backlight: LCDs use a white backlight, which is often composed of LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) that produce white light. This backlight illuminates the entire screen from behind.
Liquid Crystal Layer: The liquid crystal layer controls the amount of light that passes through by aligning the liquid crystals in different ways when an electric current is applied. This alignment changes the light's polarization.
Color Filters: In front of the liquid crystal layer, there are color filters arranged in a grid of red, green, and blue (RGB) sub-pixels. Each pixel on the screen is made up of three sub-pixels, one for each primary color.
Sub-pixel Control: By varying the alignment of the liquid crystals in each sub-pixel, the amount of light passing through the red, green, and blue filters can be controlled independently. This allows the display to create different colors by combining different intensities of these primary colors.
Design-wise, I like that this tablet actually has a handle (a place to pinch-grip the device without touching the screen) on the side.
Jerry in his linus tech tips innuendo era.
Rubber protection is always a good idea 2:50
I have an AMAZEFIT BIP S smart watch which has a Trans reflective display that gets brighter under direct sunlight. That's always on and lasts around 3 weeks on a full charge. Somethi like this sounds pretty cool.
"JERRY BREAKS EVERYTHING"
I have one of these tablets, and I use it for reading a lot of colored comic books. It's not as vibrant as an actual printed comic book, but it's still really good for reading comics, and I absolutely love it. I take my entire comic collection with me wherever I go. I have poor eyesight, so I love the big screen and the fact that you can pinch to zoom.
😂😂Jerry chose to call S24 ultra the note 24 ultra because it's technically a Note 😅😅😅
Noticed the same 😂
i love the muted colors to be honest.
feels really pleasing to the eyes.
The way you destroy expensive electronics is just hurting me
A smart watch sounds perfect for this technology imagine the battery life
I have this tablet! It's an amazing productivity machine
i imagine a local dimming-sorta solution would make this display even better. excited to see where this tech is heading
I'm surprised at saying this. I have missed you, Zack.
These videos really calm me down. Thank you
Thank you for watching!
6:39 Really cool to see up close the pixel shift that helps prevent burn in.
I loved Posy's video on the displays, of course I'd love your video on them too
Posy's video is absolutely stunning. One of the coolest videos on UA-cam
I’m pretty sure the unidentified design feature on the side is there to indicate the presence of a magnet that is intended to keep the optional pen accessory attached to it. It’s not a very strong magnet, so I wouldn’t trust it, however. Also, I am fairly certain that most of the BOOX tablets with “matte” displays are in fact using glossy glass with a textured plastic layer pre-applied at the factory. It is nice to know that they’re using strong, scratch resistant plastic for that.
Why is no one mentioning that sick intro?
Thank you!
Bet this device would be wonderful for students who don't want to constantly be distracted
9:55 reality check 😭😭
I had every emotion
Hearing that razor blade slide along an aluminum edge scratching off paint is the most satisfying sound.
Bus stop displays finna get colourful
I see them a lot with orange leds or a lcd
Color eink are popping up in some cities. Traffic signs, bus arrival schedules, traffic lights… there’s some shops that fully replace their price labels with b/w eink. And they sometimes have a solar panel to assist them (no they’re not fully reliant on them, but they’re connected for fallback)
i live in poland and the e ink displays under shelves come with 3 colors already - white, black and a decently vibrant red
It is impressive how little progress in 10 years (or so) e-ink have made with colour screen. Still virtually the same as the one I had in hands 10 years ago
9:06 *me every morning
I dont understand
Imagine in the future a 1billion color e ink tablet with backlighting, and high refresh rate, with a powerful chipset
6:32 Jerry got a galaxy note 24 ultra. 🗿
S24 ultra is also called note 24 ultra
4:21 the e-ink display is reflecting the light not combing the colors like a classic display. So you can make white by reflecting red green and blue.
2:39 "rubber protection is always a good idea" 💀
Been waiting for 10 years for a color eink for comic books
2:40 Rubber protection is always a good idea😂😂😂
colored e in watch sounds like the perfect use of the tech. Finally a watch that'll last days on one charge !
The irony of Zack talking about saving the environment via packaging, whilst he literally turns brand new items into Ewaste daily is astounding!
He sure likes to virtue-signal.
So... you would rather have him not make eco friendly packaging???? So easy to criticise but you're not morally perfect either. Do what you can
They would have been e-waste at some point in time regardless of what he did to them
I dunno why, but I find it so cool when a technology that on first glance seems obsolete, still has it's use cases and is still being improved on and advanced forward.
Note 24 Ultra? 6:22
“Rubber protection is always a good idea” that was subtle but hilarious
Bro has the note 24 ultra 🤯
As someone who LOVED the OG Pebble and Pebble Time watches, I would 100% buy a new color E ink watch!
I ate my airpod now what should i do? Wait?
Play some music
Slowly gets out jerryrig kni f e, (I’m a med student lol)
This is a pretty crazy advancement. Always wanted an e-ink device for taking notes in class, but not being able to color code certain sections was kind of a deal breaker for me. Might have to check this thing out a bit more.
10:00 sushi
Your device already being on while its shipped to you is always a nice touch.
The refresh rate of that E-Ink display is freaking INCREDIBLE!!! It's so smooth for E-Ink! It looks like it can do like 20Hz!
8:27 Was he drawing a butt? O.o
Thats a peach
💀💀
I've had it for 6 months. I love it. Change the refresh setttings and you can mitigate the ghosting
Next time one of my devices starts to any kind of malfunctioning I would simply say: "Jerry is coming..."
This is revolutionary! Displays will never be the same again thanks to JerryRigEverything efforts. Cheers.
Interesting to see the technology up-close!
The scratch test though was essentially made on the screen protector, and not the glass itself. I wonder how scratch resistant the device would be if the screen protector were to be removed.
"aren't we all?"
I felt that. It hit hard.
6:45 you are simply mistaken here. There are 16.7 million colors in the SRGB color space, which Samsung, for example, has exceeded since HDR support in the S8 in 2017. The HDR10 color space, for example, has 1.07 billion colors, to be exact. This is a common misconception because SRGB was the standard for a long time, but I had to call this out because you said TO BE EXACT when you are two orders of magnitude too low for the device on screen.
Wow, it's so interesting that even now as this technology has matured, the granules are still randomly shaped, like film grains. So how do we find the pixel boundaries?
That is the most durable screen I've seen. Even after Zack destroyed the screen the capsules still intact
I have an insulin pump (Medtronic), and it has a LCD/E-ink display. It's bright and colorful in low light, and also vivid and readable in direct sunlight, just more monochrome. It doesn't appear to switch between the two... more like they are on different layers or something.
this would indeed be a game changer on smart watches, months of battery life
I didn't realise until just a couple of months ago that Aldi, is using e-paper screens to display the priices of their products because one started glitching.
I've just learned that e-ink screen pixel have texture like film grain, this might just be a better screen type for movies in the future, if some companies dare to invest in to fix the low refresh rate and limited color.
I think a phone with this would be awesome. Still capable to do all the things a normal phone can do without being TOO boring, but would probably help me spend less time on my phone.