You say that but it’s definitely possible in this game. Having strategists is more important than having vanguards imo. Having 1 vanguard can go a long way in making space
@@Tephrite Yes true, however over time people will realize diving supports is the easier way, *usually*, its then that the solo Venom on your team wont be doing a whole lot. Its all about the mentality is what Im saying, 2 vanguards, 1 duelist and 3 strategists then, since quite a few strategists do a whole load of damage
Solo tank isnt the problem in OW, its the solo tanks being literal raid bosses AND supports having ungodly amount of self-sustain. You literally cant kill anything. I think competitively will have to be role queue but as far as the base game its fine how it is.
Seen some jeffs get insane value with his ult. If you do end up catching people, suiciding off the cliff is a lot safer as a lot of heroes have dashes that can save them!
If they role locked solo tank, I would quit instantly. I quit ow2 because I miss tank synergy, and I love this game because it has tank synergy. DO NOT ADVOCATE FOR SOLO TANK
@@UncleKuzenboyou must have been in bronze, tanks were not the problem supports were the problem in OW1 and still are in OW2. Role lock shouldn’t even be talked about yet the game just came out. Just have fun playing a game
I dont think its likely theyll role lock 1 tank they already have a few teamups between tanks but as a tank main atm I've been solo tanking just fine as long as there is a good support
Loki deserves A tier imo bc of how good his primary fire is. 90 damage per hit is INSANE, and if you put 3 totems right next to each other you can save your tank
I know it’s silly but he has perma invis and back lining is actually super silly with him. You can place your extra copies while invis too and can set up a death trap for a lone dps or strategist lol. He is nearly impossible to beat 1v1
I wouldn't say hulk is garbage was watching my buddy play as hulk the a day or 2 ago and we was wasting the enemy team pretty well. Not super amazing but still was doing pretty well
I just hope that when they do patch notes, they make magik's E more reliable. The hitbox is super small. Most of the time, when I e onto an enemy, my body will collide with them, but they won't get launched up
magik e suffers from the game's inherent aiming system where the crosshair itself doesnt really allign with what you're actually shooting/aiming at, there's a whole video and post about it. sucks alot because magik is so fun yet her kit is so reliant on hitting e to get her consistent one shot combos off. definitely needs a buff
I agree with Wolvy being low A tier. I main him and through the 10 hours I’ve already put on him, I’ve noticed he really depends on his team as much as they depend on him. I play him almost as an off tank. Being the first to enter and engage while also peeling for my team. Cooldown management is key for him. ESPECIALLY when you learn how to manage his passive. If played right he barely dies.
Mmm his max rage auto does less damage than any other dps AND tank in the game. He needs some damage buffs. Not much though. And I think feral leap needs to be a 8-9 second CD not 12
He is not even close to A tier lmao, I main wolverine as well but if you play any other melee you’d see how hard we have to work to do the same as them. Spiderman, black panther, magik and iron fist are all much much better then Wolverine
Really nice tier list. I’m surprised how accurate most of your choices were and thank you for saying Nerf moon Knight. I have heard nobody talk about it. He is so oppressive.😭
I think the bounce just gets so much value. I think it would be best to nerf dmg on the bounce vs direct damage. So each bounce does like 33% less dmg. This will also count for using the ankh to bounce atks around corners.
I can agree with a little tuning, but he does not need a full nerf, he will not be oppressive in the higher ranks (even intermediate ranks) as it’s very obvious how to counter him. But I understand tuning him for lower ranks, the thing is, if you just straight nerf him he will quickly become useless in higher ranks. So the move would be to decrease some of his free damage from grouped up enemies and buff his movement and/or dmg when in a 1v1. Either that or let him be oppressive in lower ranks just like certain characters in most games and tune him as needed for mid to high ranks
I honestly think magik is underpowered abit. Mostly her dash feel very cluncky. It misses when it shouldn't. Also i feel her over shields builds slowly on her. Found myself dying extremely fast.
she definitely takes some getting used to. I feel like with a lot of the melee heroes, you need to be really good and understanding when you can go in, otherwise you'll just get blown up haha. Something I found was I wasn't using my demon after the portal enough, he's really good for building overhealth!
As a main healer, you can down warlock one tier and up Mantis one tier as well. Warlock is hyper weak to dive so he's basically unplayable right now with characters like Psylocke, Iron Fist or Wolverine. Mantis with her damage boost loves to go into dive comps. Deffinitly her meta right now.
I personally enjoy Namor. I think his kit rewards good positioning and turret placement. Plus they’re on low cooldown. Not having to reload as well allows for constant pressure.
Great video! As a Hanzo main from all the way back in OW1 and a Hawkeye main in Rivals, I think your placement is pretty spot on. I think he could be argued for A+ if we're talking about someone with 60-70%+ accuracy and knowledge of his abilities, but he couldn't really be argued anywhere below high B. Meta seems to pretty heavily favor divers who can drop quick kills and escape, and Hawkeye is genuinely incredible for snuffing out divers, especially Duelist ones. Even Vanguards don't do too well with Hawkeye. I've had many instances of a dive tank losing 1v1s with me because they underestimate Hawkeye's damage and knockback katana. My main issue with him as of game release is that some of his kit needs buffing. Mainly, the explosive arrows have little to no use and just feel quite weak. His slowing arrow is pretty nice, but its charge-up time can be kinda long. Otherwise, his basic arrows, katana special, and ult are incredible and Im genuinely happy this game's Hanzo was built well. If I had any request, it would be to either slightly buff explosive arrow damage, or lower the ammo to one but make it hit a little less hard than a headshot with the basic arrow. It would just be great to see them get more use as it's currently a pretty useless part of his kit. Id also be completely fine with them removing the projectile deflection from his katana in exchange for a small stun or more damage/knockback. Overall tho, great vid. As I said in a different comment, I think ratings are pretty subject to change once people get more creative and find more ways to innovate. Jeff and Thor definitely have the most potential to be pretty nasty once they're used more. Jeff especially can do quite a lot with his ult that many people haven't even thought to try. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your thoughts as you play more 👍
I think instead of any sort of role queue. They just shouldn’t allow more than three of a singular role in a team. That way you can still make interesting compositions. Three tanks, three healers etc.
Maining Namor and I think he is one of the best at team wiping. I get games with 20+ kills frequently and he himself is a great backliner. Up to four way damage directions can easily kill their supports and then the whole team.
People who think they know how good characters are at this early are dense. I’m willing to bet without any patches new combos and synergies will emerge changing tier lists. Just enjoy the game in this honeymoon phase. Min maxing ruins games like these
Nah if you get dived it’s ggs u use the freeze then get pushed again and you dead because the cool-down is so long mantis can 1v1 any charecter while also damage boosting your team, just better in every situation
@Cryoaynonyou have to land headshots and she has ridiculously tight hit boxes. She’s good but Luna has an ult probably 5 times stronger while also doing better at range
Captain America's running movement needs to be omni-directional, Thor needs a whole rework, spider man might need to be slowed down a little bit to feel controllable.
@@strvmpetLoki is pretty good, he has insane self peel and does good damage and healing. He’s a little inconsistent but he’s not bad. Widow is literally half a character, it feels like she is missing an entire ability
@@biggiecheese2004 his cooldowns are pretty high for no reason (especially the teleport) and it feels if pressure is applied to you its pretty hard to deal with. Widow 100% can be really strong but she relies on characters like mantis to damage boost so the headshot one shots
he's probably at the top of A tier but there are still a lot of moments where, as I mentioned, you don't get too much value out of him and you might as well just go someone like BP or Magik instead. I do also realise this is bias coz I main him but I also plan on maining Bucky too and I think he needs a nerf haha
@ that current venom buff for plus 150 hp for venom is crazy tho and Spider-Man is a great assassin character and absolutely shreds most frail character with his one shot combo fr
Dark Child is a strong ultimate?? Wtf am I doing wrong then? Seems like magik in her R is weaker than normal, also the 2 seconds of not being able to do anything before and after ultimate is hell. But she can very fast 1 combo a lot of characters, even if E decides to go through people, you can still 2 hit and quick melee them.
this video is kinda doodoo fart but dark child's weakness are almost purely bug related and not really a flaw of magik.. like the game is so buggy and has alot of performance issues rn so it's super hard to judge
I feel as though people are playing Iron Man incorrectly. A lot of players I see using him tend to stay high up for majority, if not all of the game making them an easy target for hitscan characters, spiderman, and iron fist. Staying low and near the rest of your team while only peaking up or moving in for kill shots is the way to go. Some maps may allow enough vertical coverage for him to maintain the advantage in the air, but majority of the time he is better off punishing the enemy tank from behind his team with unibeam and shifting in quickly to punish out-of-position squishies. His damage potential is crazy, especially with his Armor Overdrive ability activated. His Armor Overdrive Unibeam MELTS tanks and a well placed Ult is absolutely insane. His Ultimate has the potential to single handedly clutch a W when used carefully. I don’t think he deserves such a low ranking if he is played properly. It honestly just takes a lot of discipline to stay out of the sky and only pop out when it’s absolutely necessary. I hope to see him at high level play one day and I hope to continue to climb the ranks with Iron Man!! (Plus, superior Iron Man skin is SICKK) I love you 3000 ❤️
oh yeah his damage is really good and can be deadly in the right hands, thats why he's in A tier! I just think there are better Vanguards than Groot and putting them on the same level just wouldn't make sense imo
Namor being low B is criminal. I am a namor main and I can lock down a choke hold better than anyone he is a character of time and placement. He deals insane damage over time and is very helpful for the team. I will saw peni Parker is a great defender against him just to much health. That all I got to say lol sorry for the rant
dr strange s when his only upside is his portal, scarlet and squirrel that low, adam warlock below cloak and dagger, hulk in A, ngl this list is sum butt.
Mantis has no way of escaping and no self sustain, wdym , and scarlet only has a good ulti that she cant even use in a lobby where people just shoot at her the second she starts screaming
@JanDarkyy that's like saying Ana from overwatch has no escape ability. She doesn't need one, she can sleep any character easily. She also does have LOTS of sustain, she has a self healing passive. It sounds like you're just using scarlet's ult wrong tbh.
scarlet witch is only good as a brawler and her ult sucks bc she becomes so vulnerable. if it goes off IN RANGE OF ENEMIES sure if will kill but good lick getting that off with a hela on the field.
I agree Scarlet is insane. I've seen far too many tier lists underrate her and it's insane to me. Even Vanguards melt in front of her if you can land all 4 of her magic missiles. As for her ult, people don't understand that it's not just a D.VA ult that you can get killed in. It is a GREAT distraction to give your team a chance to dive nearly uncontested. I guarantee if you used her ult behind the enemy team, every single one is either turning around or running for it, and that creates an invaluable opportunity. Even just hearing the ult activate will cause some panic as long as you're not just up in the air in the middle of objective lol. Once people get more creative with these characters, ratings will change
IMO no character belongs in those tiers. Every character is strong in their own way. MAYBE some can be C tier which I will prob end up utilising in my next tier list once ranked has been out for a few weeks
Wait this tierlist kinda doodoo fart im ngl squirrel girl and wanda (her players do always fail to use ult though which is funny) are way too low and like iron fist not in s bruh?!
black widow needs a sort of grapple close range move that incapacitates a single target so if she gets dived at she has one chance to escape She's pretty bad and the risks she has aren't worth the damage she does Or increase the cycle speed of her rifle by quite a bit
Arent you like Diamond in Overwatch? How come you're saying your T500? Anyways this tier list is cooked, Magneto and Venom not being S tier is criminal. All of my scrim blocks do not have strange or thor, they are really weak in pro scrims
rank reset to dia and never bothered to grind back up to Top 500 coz I just didn't enjoy the game anymore besides doing dumb challenges. Prior to that when I actually played the game I was Top 500 for multiple seasons :) (this is also irrelevant as I hit Top 100 in MR Alpha and Beta so even if u consider me washed in OW, you can't doubt my MR skills) I haven't scrimmed at all this season in Rivals so I don't actually know whats being played in scrims and either way, the game has been out for 2 days so I guarantee you nobody in scrims knows whats good and they're just testing things out. Hell even in Alpha/Beta which was out for weeks, people didn't know what was good and played a variety of diff comps ONTOP OF ALL THIS, this isn't a pro/scrim tier list, this is a ranked season tier list. Just like any game, some heroes can be great in scrims but terrible in ranked as you don't have guaranteed synergies and coordination, for eg in beta, Wanda wasn't great but she was picked all the time because of Mag sword :)
Just rehashing what you are saying for the duelists since you kept saying high and low I spread it out for you. Is this correct? S tier: Moon Knight, Winter Soldier A+ tier: Iron Fist A tier: Hawkeye, Hel, Spiderman A- tier: Pyslock, Punisher, Black Panther, Magik B+ tier: Star Lord, Wolverine, Storm B tier: Black Widow, Squirrel Girl, Scarlet Witch, Iron man B- tier: Namor
Bro namor deserves better bro wolverine is like a- I'm weird but i like star lord i main him he's good if you know his abilities I'm just mostly saying namor putting in b- tier is a illegal crime
Magneto should be immune to bullets and metal projectiles imo or atleast have those heal him Also scarlet witch’s ult rn is pretty easy to pull off, just image up to the sky and ult while you’re falling down on top of your enemies, most of them won’t know which way you’re coming from and many ppl don’t look up lmao
Yeah I think this depends what rank you end up playing in. In the beta, Wanda only got kills when comboing her ult as it was so easy to run to cover, dash away, just block or even just kill her before it goes off
@@curlydolltv bro really said this is a competitive game when you have cheese ults like Jeff that can wipe an entire team with little effort, if it was balanced to be competitive most of these characters would get giga nerfed
Do not nerf anything, this is nor overwatch. Honestly, it plays nothing like it. This is marvel ultimate alliance multiplayer vs keep wveryone broken as such
If you want a competitive and thriving ranked mode with tournaments then not nerfing anything is absurd. Balance is a HUGE part of a hero shooter and the devs know this, especially seeing how they’ve adjusted heroes from alpha to beta to launch
@Tephrite it's not a hero shooter and the game will never be "balanced " through nerfing, there will be far to many characters to be trying to nickle and dime little nerfs. Keep the game as fun and cool as possible and that is what will create a thriving competitive community
@Tephrite trying to nerf and balance this game to much will make it extremely tedious and unfun to play. At the end of the day casual gamers are what keep a game funded and thriving, they already got us competitive players. Alot of the fun of the game is picking a superhero or villan you find cool and just playing, start balancing things to heavy and you lose that fun and end up with toxic overwatch where everyone thinks there a pro
But I think they understand these concepts I mean look at fortnite, if you think this games going to be some super balanced overwatch or league clone I think your in for a big surprise where focused on fun here this is marvel ultimate alliance multi-player
The fact people want solo tank is beyond concerning, look at overwatch
You say that but it’s definitely possible in this game. Having strategists is more important than having vanguards imo. Having 1 vanguard can go a long way in making space
@@Tephrite Yes true, however over time people will realize diving supports is the easier way, *usually*, its then that the solo Venom on your team wont be doing a whole lot. Its all about the mentality is what Im saying, 2 vanguards, 1 duelist and 3 strategists then, since quite a few strategists do a whole load of damage
this game plays nothing like overwatch
I think Min 1 and Max 3 is the way for this game. I agree with your solo tank take though.
Solo tank isnt the problem in OW, its the solo tanks being literal raid bosses AND supports having ungodly amount of self-sustain. You literally cant kill anything. I think competitively will have to be role queue but as far as the base game its fine how it is.
I had an enemy jeff use his ult on us and grabbed like 5 of us and ran and spit us all off the cliff. It was so insane
Seen some jeffs get insane value with his ult. If you do end up catching people, suiciding off the cliff is a lot safer as a lot of heroes have dashes that can save them!
I was playin attack on that entertainment district looking map and a Jeff got multiple ults with 3 people and just jumped off with us😭
Me too. Wiped basically my whole team.
My Jeff threw me off the cliff with the enemies 😢
I've had several Jeff players grab me as Peni in my ult full hp and then throw me back into them with no ult left
If they role locked solo tank, I would quit instantly. I quit ow2 because I miss tank synergy, and I love this game because it has tank synergy. DO NOT ADVOCATE FOR SOLO TANK
its the best way to balance the game. 2 tanks made for the worst meta in overwatch
@@UncleKuzenbo 2 tanks was mostly fine until Brigitte was released. She turned it into Shield Shooting Simulator.
@@UncleKuzenboyou must have been in bronze, tanks were not the problem supports were the problem in OW1 and still are in OW2. Role lock shouldn’t even be talked about yet the game just came out. Just have fun playing a game
@@ornerycollop4670 I was a top 500 player... 2x tank with healers was a major problem
I dont think its likely theyll role lock 1 tank they already have a few teamups between tanks but as a tank main atm I've been solo tanking just fine as long as there is a good support
Loki deserves A tier imo bc of how good his primary fire is. 90 damage per hit is INSANE, and if you put 3 totems right next to each other you can save your tank
I know it’s silly but he has perma invis and back lining is actually super silly with him. You can place your extra copies while invis too and can set up a death trap for a lone dps or strategist lol. He is nearly impossible to beat 1v1
This dude couldn’t even properly read the team up with Loki. Asgardian teams with Thor/Cap go so hard
Doing a tier list and putting no one on C and D is kinda bullshit.
And no way I’m accepting Hulk in A lmao.
Hulk is garbage.
Fr, this tier is hella off in so many ways.
No he’s not ur just trash
I’m not so sure about that, hulk is really good but he’s hard to play, don’t mix hard to play and bad in the same catagory
I wouldn't say hulk is garbage was watching my buddy play as hulk the a day or 2 ago and we was wasting the enemy team pretty well. Not super amazing but still was doing pretty well
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I just hope that when they do patch notes, they make magik's E more reliable. The hitbox is super small. Most of the time, when I e onto an enemy, my body will collide with them, but they won't get launched up
Do you play on high ping as that sounds more like a server desync or a bug more than anything balance related
@@Tephrite
Nah, I play on PS5 and the hitbxol is genuinely pretty small lmao.
magik e suffers from the game's inherent aiming system where the crosshair itself doesnt really allign with what you're actually shooting/aiming at, there's a whole video and post about it. sucks alot because magik is so fun yet her kit is so reliant on hitting e to get her consistent one shot combos off. definitely needs a buff
I agree with Wolvy being low A tier. I main him and through the 10 hours I’ve already put on him, I’ve noticed he really depends on his team as much as they depend on him. I play him almost as an off tank. Being the first to enter and engage while also peeling for my team. Cooldown management is key for him. ESPECIALLY when you learn how to manage his passive. If played right he barely dies.
Forgot to mention that his leap can literally knock ppl out of their ults, catching a Pyoooor Chaaooosss n finishing her off feels great!
Mmm his max rage auto does less damage than any other dps AND tank in the game. He needs some damage buffs. Not much though. And I think feral leap needs to be a 8-9 second CD not 12
He is not even close to A tier lmao, I main wolverine as well but if you play any other melee you’d see how hard we have to work to do the same as them. Spiderman, black panther, magik and iron fist are all much much better then Wolverine
@@AresLodinhe’s a brawler, not black panther. He does max hp damage
jeff and strange combo potential is crazy can create a cliff literally anywhere for jeff
Most accurate tier list I’ve seen so far. Was wondering why every other list has C&D in the lowest tiers.
I feel like any character can be broken in good hands but noeone is terrible everyone is good
I love that
Hawkeye is S tier imo if you can get in a groove with hitting your shots
Really nice tier list. I’m surprised how accurate most of your choices were and thank you for saying Nerf moon Knight. I have heard nobody talk about it. He is so oppressive.😭
I think the bounce just gets so much value. I think it would be best to nerf dmg on the bounce vs direct damage. So each bounce does like 33% less dmg. This will also count for using the ankh to bounce atks around corners.
I can agree with a little tuning, but he does not need a full nerf, he will not be oppressive in the higher ranks (even intermediate ranks) as it’s very obvious how to counter him. But I understand tuning him for lower ranks, the thing is, if you just straight nerf him he will quickly become useless in higher ranks. So the move would be to decrease some of his free damage from grouped up enemies and buff his movement and/or dmg when in a 1v1. Either that or let him be oppressive in lower ranks just like certain characters in most games and tune him as needed for mid to high ranks
I honestly think magik is underpowered abit. Mostly her dash feel very cluncky. It misses when it shouldn't. Also i feel her over shields builds slowly on her. Found myself dying extremely fast.
she definitely takes some getting used to. I feel like with a lot of the melee heroes, you need to be really good and understanding when you can go in, otherwise you'll just get blown up haha. Something I found was I wasn't using my demon after the portal enough, he's really good for building overhealth!
I agree with the dash missing too much and she could use faster teleport because it's so easy to follow and snipe as she comes out.
As a main healer, you can down warlock one tier and up Mantis one tier as well.
Warlock is hyper weak to dive so he's basically unplayable right now with characters like Psylocke, Iron Fist or Wolverine.
Mantis with her damage boost loves to go into dive comps. Deffinitly her meta right now.
loki b tier just made me lose all confidence in this
I personally enjoy Namor. I think his kit rewards good positioning and turret placement. Plus they’re on low cooldown. Not having to reload as well allows for constant pressure.
Great video! As a Hanzo main from all the way back in OW1 and a Hawkeye main in Rivals, I think your placement is pretty spot on. I think he could be argued for A+ if we're talking about someone with 60-70%+ accuracy and knowledge of his abilities, but he couldn't really be argued anywhere below high B. Meta seems to pretty heavily favor divers who can drop quick kills and escape, and Hawkeye is genuinely incredible for snuffing out divers, especially Duelist ones. Even Vanguards don't do too well with Hawkeye. I've had many instances of a dive tank losing 1v1s with me because they underestimate Hawkeye's damage and knockback katana. My main issue with him as of game release is that some of his kit needs buffing. Mainly, the explosive arrows have little to no use and just feel quite weak. His slowing arrow is pretty nice, but its charge-up time can be kinda long. Otherwise, his basic arrows, katana special, and ult are incredible and Im genuinely happy this game's Hanzo was built well. If I had any request, it would be to either slightly buff explosive arrow damage, or lower the ammo to one but make it hit a little less hard than a headshot with the basic arrow. It would just be great to see them get more use as it's currently a pretty useless part of his kit. Id also be completely fine with them removing the projectile deflection from his katana in exchange for a small stun or more damage/knockback. Overall tho, great vid. As I said in a different comment, I think ratings are pretty subject to change once people get more creative and find more ways to innovate. Jeff and Thor definitely have the most potential to be pretty nasty once they're used more. Jeff especially can do quite a lot with his ult that many people haven't even thought to try. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your thoughts as you play more 👍
I think instead of any sort of role queue. They just shouldn’t allow more than three of a singular role in a team. That way you can still make interesting compositions. Three tanks, three healers etc.
The lack of respect for my boy Rocket is disturbing
I’m sorry, this tier list is way off.
Maining Namor and I think he is one of the best at team wiping. I get games with 20+ kills frequently and he himself is a great backliner. Up to four way damage directions can easily kill their supports and then the whole team.
Rockets weapon needs to be hit scan or the balls should give more healing (or both), then he'd be solid
Saving people from Scarlet Wirch and Jeff ults as Cloak & Dagger is insanely satisfying
Luna snow can cancel scarlet by freezing her its insanely satisfying
People who think they know how good characters are at this early are dense. I’m willing to bet without any patches new combos and synergies will emerge changing tier lists. Just enjoy the game in this honeymoon phase. Min maxing ruins games like these
Hawkeye literally claps me every time when the dude playing is decent. It’s crazy
putting Magneto in B is wild
horrible tier list, whats the point of having C and D tier if you dont use them...
Luna snow is way better than matis in my opinion
Nah if you get dived it’s ggs u use the freeze then get pushed again and you dead because the cool-down is so long mantis can 1v1 any charecter while also damage boosting your team, just better in every situation
@Cryoaynonyou have to land headshots and she has ridiculously tight hit boxes. She’s good but Luna has an ult probably 5 times stronger while also doing better at range
the loki disrespect is wild
Captain America's running movement needs to be omni-directional, Thor needs a whole rework, spider man might need to be slowed down a little bit to feel controllable.
you need to use more of the tiers and not just throw everyone in A
Why are they called vanguards? Isn't the comic book lingo anchors?
Hulk is easily the worst tank. I love seeing an enemy hulk. Never a threat.
Do you have team for rankeds and tournamenst?
Widow easily the worst character in the game
not really, loki is still pretty clearly the worst
@@strvmpetLoki is pretty good, he has insane self peel and does good damage and healing. He’s a little inconsistent but he’s not bad. Widow is literally half a character, it feels like she is missing an entire ability
@@biggiecheese2004 his cooldowns are pretty high for no reason (especially the teleport) and it feels if pressure is applied to you its pretty hard to deal with.
Widow 100% can be really strong but she relies on characters like mantis to damage boost so the headshot one shots
not putting spiderman in S tier just bc u main him lol hes op asf no way u put him in A tier
he's probably at the top of A tier but there are still a lot of moments where, as I mentioned, you don't get too much value out of him and you might as well just go someone like BP or Magik instead. I do also realise this is bias coz I main him but I also plan on maining Bucky too and I think he needs a nerf haha
He's garbage
I main Spider-Man am I cooked?
You and me both 😭😭 Nah fr he’s good but there’s a lot of comps on the game where it’s hard to find value and you might as well go Panther or Bucky
@ that current venom buff for plus 150 hp for venom is crazy tho and Spider-Man is a great assassin character and absolutely shreds most frail character with his one shot combo fr
I love how people keep calling Black Widow Widowmaker XD
Dark Child is a strong ultimate??
Wtf am I doing wrong then? Seems like magik in her R is weaker than normal, also the 2 seconds of not being able to do anything before and after ultimate is hell.
But she can very fast 1 combo a lot of characters, even if E decides to go through people, you can still 2 hit and quick melee them.
this video is kinda doodoo fart but dark child's weakness are almost purely bug related and not really a flaw of magik..
like the game is so buggy and has alot of performance issues rn so it's super hard to judge
Hella is S tier because she can revive Thor and Loki you got that team up wrong
I feel as though people are playing Iron Man incorrectly. A lot of players I see using him tend to stay high up for majority, if not all of the game making them an easy target for hitscan characters, spiderman, and iron fist. Staying low and near the rest of your team while only peaking up or moving in for kill shots is the way to go. Some maps may allow enough vertical coverage for him to maintain the advantage in the air, but majority of the time he is better off punishing the enemy tank from behind his team with unibeam and shifting in quickly to punish out-of-position squishies. His damage potential is crazy, especially with his Armor Overdrive ability activated. His Armor Overdrive Unibeam MELTS tanks and a well placed Ult is absolutely insane. His Ultimate has the potential to single handedly clutch a W when used carefully. I don’t think he deserves such a low ranking if he is played properly. It honestly just takes a lot of discipline to stay out of the sky and only pop out when it’s absolutely necessary. I hope to see him at high level play one day and I hope to continue to climb the ranks with Iron Man!! (Plus, superior Iron Man skin is SICKK)
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As a Peni main i feel disrespected i dominate games with her😂
Peni defeinitely has a high skill floor. I've seen her absolutely DOMINATE games so if you're good with her you can be a menace
peni is actually insane in defenase. on attack you other tanks will be better tbh
Groot is S+ tier, look at pros dominating with him... his dps is insane on good hands
oh yeah his damage is really good and can be deadly in the right hands, thats why he's in A tier! I just think there are better Vanguards than Groot and putting them on the same level just wouldn't make sense imo
there... isnt any competition yet?
what pros where
WHAT PROS?
Pros? Who is already getting paid playing this?
My squad runs
Magneto Scarlett Loki, Jeff, punisher/moonknight & venom/peni
Magneto on B is criminal
yeah honestly, after playing in Grandmaster, there is a lot I would change about my tierlist! Will defo do a revised one soon!
Namor is op imo..consistent dps..one shot ult..self peel/shield
Namor being low B is criminal. I am a namor main and I can lock down a choke hold better than anyone he is a character of time and placement. He deals insane damage over time and is very helpful for the team. I will saw peni Parker is a great defender against him just to much health. That all I got to say lol sorry for the rant
One thing I’ve noticed is that almost every person on yt who has made a tierlist video skews it so bad
I landed 4 ults in a row with winter soldier he's insane 😭🙏
AGAIN
Even though he’s insane, Moon Knight is pretty easy to counter
30:46 yeah right its not like i just got one tapped by that shotgun as a cap america just 30 mins ago
dr strange s when his only upside is his portal, scarlet and squirrel that low, adam warlock below cloak and dagger, hulk in A, ngl this list is sum butt.
D strange is very good he is op good with team up and and mote
@@train-station-2693 will say my mind has changed on strange but the rest of this list is still butt
Bro Dr strange is one of my three mains bro
Loki at high B tier is a troll take
damn they need to nerf hawkeye don’t know how they made a 10x more oppressive widowmaker that requires the iq of a fetus to play
How scarlet witch is an B she is so broken
Honestly putting rocket in b tier is a skill issue I think he is in top a but I guess it’s your tier list
Mantis and scarlet witch should both be top of S tier. Unkillable picks with crazy damage and utility.
Mantis has no way of escaping and no self sustain, wdym , and scarlet only has a good ulti that she cant even use in a lobby where people just shoot at her the second she starts screaming
@JanDarkyy that's like saying Ana from overwatch has no escape ability. She doesn't need one, she can sleep any character easily. She also does have LOTS of sustain, she has a self healing passive.
It sounds like you're just using scarlet's ult wrong tbh.
@@JanDarkyythat’s why u need to learn to play her better and time her ult right, it isn’t hard if u just practice her but she’s definitely a to s tier
scarlet witch is only good as a brawler and her ult sucks bc she becomes so vulnerable. if it goes off IN RANGE OF ENEMIES sure if will kill but good lick getting that off with a hela on the field.
I agree Scarlet is insane. I've seen far too many tier lists underrate her and it's insane to me. Even Vanguards melt in front of her if you can land all 4 of her magic missiles. As for her ult, people don't understand that it's not just a D.VA ult that you can get killed in. It is a GREAT distraction to give your team a chance to dive nearly uncontested. I guarantee if you used her ult behind the enemy team, every single one is either turning around or running for it, and that creates an invaluable opportunity. Even just hearing the ult activate will cause some panic as long as you're not just up in the air in the middle of objective lol. Once people get more creative with these characters, ratings will change
Bro iron man deserves to be higher ngl he’s too broken in so many scenarios and his blasts with the aoe is too good
Do C and D not exist to you?
IMO no character belongs in those tiers. Every character is strong in their own way. MAYBE some can be C tier which I will prob end up utilising in my next tier list once ranked has been out for a few weeks
@Tephrite Namor is 1000% C. If a character is only Viable in some scenarios, and not even game changing in said scenarios, they're C tier at best
just give Fly to Namor and he becomes meta.
I saw someone go 43-0 with scarlet witch, no way she’s b tier
Nah, squirrel girl is OD she's literally plays like junkrat who was one of the best dps characters in ovw
bruh that's not how a tier list works
Puttting magneto makes this guy a menace to society
Wait this tierlist kinda doodoo fart im ngl
squirrel girl and wanda (her players do always fail to use ult though which is funny) are way too low and like iron fist not in s bruh?!
Imo punishers a high a low a teir
Heh iron fist in A 😭
I am Jeff fan club for life please never hurt him 🥺💕
BROTHER IT IS 4AM ????
Different time zones
Nah bro she’s right, I went to bed right after this 😂
A good panther has got to be considered they can wipe teams with good cooldown management, i'd put him high A if we're considering potential
Just change jeff en loki.. this list doenst make sense
Bro..Magneto is S.. easily
after playing against him more and more, I think I was a bit harsh, but S is a bit too high still as he's only good at denial and nothing more imo
Venom is easy S
black widow needs a sort of grapple close range move that incapacitates a single target so if she gets dived at she has one chance to escape
She's pretty bad and the risks she has aren't worth the damage she does
Or increase the cycle speed of her rifle by quite a bit
that list is so wrong scarlet witch S tier, iron man is top of A tier, wolverine is also easily S tier you can solo every tank with him
in casual lobbys maybe, ranked is different
@TomiTomsen ranked released 7 hours ago💀💀💀
Wolwerine is ass lmao
@@thimo1999 his tier list is kinda ass but your rankings aren’t any better. scarlet witch in s tier? she’s not even top 5 duelist lmao.
@SlowNSoothing her Ult is like dvas from overwatch just her Ult Alone can win you a match
bro should stick to ow lol.
Arent you like Diamond in Overwatch? How come you're saying your T500? Anyways this tier list is cooked, Magneto and Venom not being S tier is criminal. All of my scrim blocks do not have strange or thor, they are really weak in pro scrims
rank reset to dia and never bothered to grind back up to Top 500 coz I just didn't enjoy the game anymore besides doing dumb challenges. Prior to that when I actually played the game I was Top 500 for multiple seasons :) (this is also irrelevant as I hit Top 100 in MR Alpha and Beta so even if u consider me washed in OW, you can't doubt my MR skills)
I haven't scrimmed at all this season in Rivals so I don't actually know whats being played in scrims and either way, the game has been out for 2 days so I guarantee you nobody in scrims knows whats good and they're just testing things out. Hell even in Alpha/Beta which was out for weeks, people didn't know what was good and played a variety of diff comps
ONTOP OF ALL THIS, this isn't a pro/scrim tier list, this is a ranked season tier list. Just like any game, some heroes can be great in scrims but terrible in ranked as you don't have guaranteed synergies and coordination, for eg in beta, Wanda wasn't great but she was picked all the time because of Mag sword :)
Just rehashing what you are saying for the duelists since you kept saying high and low I spread it out for you. Is this correct?
S tier: Moon Knight, Winter Soldier
A+ tier: Iron Fist
A tier: Hawkeye, Hel, Spiderman
A- tier: Pyslock, Punisher, Black Panther, Magik
B+ tier: Star Lord, Wolverine, Storm
B tier: Black Widow, Squirrel Girl, Scarlet Witch, Iron man
B- tier: Namor
Bro namor deserves better bro wolverine is like a- I'm weird but i like star lord i main him he's good if you know his abilities I'm just mostly saying namor putting in b- tier is a illegal crime
lets never rank !!!!!
Magneto should be immune to bullets and metal projectiles imo or atleast have those heal him
Also scarlet witch’s ult rn is pretty easy to pull off, just image up to the sky and ult while you’re falling down on top of your enemies, most of them won’t know which way you’re coming from and many ppl don’t look up lmao
this is a competitive game. be serious
Are you trolling with the first point?
Yeah I think this depends what rank you end up playing in. In the beta, Wanda only got kills when comboing her ult as it was so easy to run to cover, dash away, just block or even just kill her before it goes off
The point about magneto would make him insanely broken though. Maybe reduced damage sure but otherwise idk pal
@@curlydolltv bro really said this is a competitive game when you have cheese ults like Jeff that can wipe an entire team with little effort, if it was balanced to be competitive most of these characters would get giga nerfed
Wolf is a lol
I think you suck at this game
hulk is so bad
This has to be rage bait lol
Loki is amazing 😭😭😭
Do not nerf anything, this is nor overwatch. Honestly, it plays nothing like it. This is marvel ultimate alliance multiplayer vs keep wveryone broken as such
If you want a competitive and thriving ranked mode with tournaments then not nerfing anything is absurd. Balance is a HUGE part of a hero shooter and the devs know this, especially seeing how they’ve adjusted heroes from alpha to beta to launch
@Tephrite it's not a hero shooter and the game will never be "balanced " through nerfing, there will be far to many characters to be trying to nickle and dime little nerfs. Keep the game as fun and cool as possible and that is what will create a thriving competitive community
@Tephrite trying to nerf and balance this game to much will make it extremely tedious and unfun to play. At the end of the day casual gamers are what keep a game funded and thriving, they already got us competitive players. Alot of the fun of the game is picking a superhero or villan you find cool and just playing, start balancing things to heavy and you lose that fun and end up with toxic overwatch where everyone thinks there a pro
@@BlackHelixzso true let’s just buff every character to one shot the other team and turn the core gamplay into watching the respawn screen
But I think they understand these concepts I mean look at fortnite, if you think this games going to be some super balanced overwatch or league clone I think your in for a big surprise where focused on fun here this is marvel ultimate alliance multi-player
GET OUT!!!
A good panther has got to be considered they can wipe teams with good cooldown management, i'd put him high A if we're considering potential