@@PiotrK2022 who hurt you? Did your dad leave for milk and cigarettes and never came back? Or does your mom complain about her knees after a hard night's work.
I'm amazed it's cost effective to replace the compressor and re gas with hours of labour on a very old freezer. I note the old gas was let into the atmosphere. That's not allowed in many countries.
Yes Inverter compressors work on variable frequency drive, which makes them to adjust the speed of the compressor using control boards. Also they can be smartly Used with thermistors to control the refrigerator temperature, Well I checked one of your video too. You are doing good work to. Appreciate your work too.
Use a pressure regulator for the N2. In Romania these are delivered with 200 Bars. I would really not feed the circuit with this pressure. Regulating pressure by tapping on the valve is just insane. You are only regulating the flow, if the system is not open you can build up that pressure in the circuit....
Last week my fridge totally gave up. I figured it would be the relais and compressor like in your vid. But since i didn't have all the equipment and knowledge you have, i figured to buy another fridge and let them take away the old one. In contrast to the fridge in your video, mine was pristine from the inside, no filth or stains or anything. I actually hope they refurbish my old one at the depot, since there is already enough waste. Also i am glad there still exist simple fridges that don't have bluetooth or other of those electronics inside. (Unfort. not with washing machines. I can't find a single washing machine anymore with a mechanical clockwork cylinder inside. All bleep bleep electronics now). Keep up the good job!
You are a perfect candidate for the carbon felt pad used to protect from welding and I'm sure brazing. You'll still need the regular wet cloth to cool. I was amazed it was able to protect whatever I put under it when Arc Welding.
Yesterday i convert R600 fridge/ freezer to R134a. Had to change condenser, compressor and filter drier. Also shortened the capillary tube, now freezer compartment is at -25C and fridge compartment at 4C. Pressures when saturated are 5psi on low side and 120psi on high side.
I had several old fridges that had rusted compressor pipes and all the R12 had gone years ago. The compressors still started and ran okay. I replaced the rusted bits with brazed copper pipe. I the pressurised the system with fuel grade LPG (propane butane mix). I then let all the gas out again and did this several times. As I refilled I watched the compressor current which did not get up to the rated current on the compressor label. Ice started to form on the suction side so I bled gas off until it stopped and then a bit more. After the fridge had come down to temperature, a little ice was forming again so I bled off a bit more. Two of those fridges are still okay ten years later,.No vacuum pump, no gauges, no oil change, no capillary change, no problems, lower power use, shorter running cycle just LPG highlighted on the label. Not illegal to bleed LPG to atmosphere. Most domestic gear chucked out can be home repaired.
@@rearspeaker6364 That's the same thing car mechanics used to say about converting car air conditioners over. It's just nonsense fear mongering. There is so little gas in it that this will never happen. Remember, you have to have the correct fuel/air misture for combustion. Also propane and butane systems run at a lower pressure, so there is even less chance of a leak than before it was converted.
A tie chladničky čo vozite kade tade po Afrike a oni ich tam likviduju len tak to si im bol povedť tiež aby ho nevypušťali do ovzdušia ty mudrc ??? prihriaty ?
Extremely good video, I have old rounded fridge or cooler, what ever it is and want to use it it, but old compressor is working, but for sure, no forever.
If you are measuring the temperature, then go closer to the object. Many sensors have a 30° opening, this means that the sensor-area is around 30cm if you have a distance of 30cm. The laser there is only good to see were is the center-point of this circle. Some sensors have a focal point of 1:12 (2.5cm point at 30cm distance) or some very good with 1:60. Many people are doing it wrong, because they think that the laser itself is the measurement-device. And the surface what you want to measure should be black. If I measure a aluminium surface of a heat-sink, then I paint the surface black with a permanent marker before the measuring. If the black area is only 1cm in diameter, then I use only a distance of 1cm.
@@forevertechenglish IR thermometers are pretty neat. The one I have uses 2 or more thermocouples to measure the temperature-one exposed to light from the outside and the other not. The temperature difference indicates how much IR light is hitting the sensor. Lenses focus the light, so there's a focal distance where the measurement area is smallest, and getting closer or farther away makes it bigger (think of a magnifying glass focusing sunlight). The manufacturer generally tells you how large the measurement area is for each device. You're measuring the 4th power mean temperature of the measurement area, so if you measure something half hot and half cold the thermometer will show a reading closer to the hotter temperature. The IR emissivity of many materials is >0.9, but certain metals are a common exception. This pretty much means that those metals with low emissivity emit a small percentage of the IR radiation an ideal black body with emissivity 1 would. Such materials often reflect IR, so you're likely to measure the temperature of the reflection and the IR mirror you think you're measuring.
@@alexandrumarzenco6998 if a compressor is running while there is a leak, the excess temperature of the compressor can atomize the oil that's supposed to stay in the compressor. This oil freezes in the evaporator causing a blockage
we still have compressors from Zil Moscow refrigerators, produced in 1971. I installed it on the freezer and filled it with freon R134a. video can be watched on my channel, there is even with English subtitles.
Great video! Very helpful and a good explanation of the process. I understand English is not your first language, so some future help for your English translations 🙂: It is not "smoke" coming out of the vacuum pump, it is moisture/steam. Smoke in English is just associated with something burning. The "Pinching Pin" would be better called the "Piercing Pin". It is penetrating a hole or piercing in English. Pinching is just to squeeze something together. Keep up the great work! You have a new subscriber!
Yea.. The gas is not 0ne hundred thirty four A... You could shorten the video if you just said 134a. Are you using a translation to engrish ?.. oops i mean English.
Muito bom esse serviço. Pra fazer a nova carga de R600 poderia ter calculado 40% da quantidade original de R134. Isso é o que usam em média. Abraços do Brazil.
OMG the amount of dust in that fridge is totally off the charts. I cleaned out my desktop gaming PC after 2 years of daily use & it had only a fraction of the dust that fridge had.
Yes, this is horrible advice and you should not show this in a a video, you inspire others to do the same, amount of environmental damage from venting that refrigerant is more than you'll ever save from installing the inverter compressor. At least rent a recovery unit and recycle the r134A
It seems to me that there was not much R134a left in the unit, since there was only a very brief hissing noise when the line was cut, so comparable to the 'minimis' release allowed by epa, even if technically illegal.
@@kareemhameed4042 you mean use LPG for flushing? I never tried that, I use Nitrogen, I only use LPG + Oxygen for the brazing. LPG is highly flammable and high risk. I know of using Paint Thinners for flushing as well
Thanks a lot for this, really cool explaination ! Quick question: Don't we have a simple equivalent factor between R600a and R134a ? Basically we are not extending or shortening the length pipes significatively so why can't we just use "original manufacturer R134a weight" X (standard_equivalent_factor) ? Cheers !
Please add more detail on the differences in the drier/why you are changing it, where and how you purchased the compressor/drier, what tools you are using. what kind of torch, type of flux and solder, how to safely use the compressed nitrogen, etc. Perhaps a video especially for that?
Remember when i asked You about noisy inverter compresor?i have changed the charge with a new one(r600a).Now the compresor îs silent.I will check further about a moisture issue in the sistem.Have a Nice dau!
134a has been used as a propellant in aerosol cans for years up until recently when it was phased out and replace with 152a. You're "canned air" was 134a until 2017.
There are some countries where they just don't give 2 fks about the planet at all!!! This ID10T proves that by giving your comment a heart. I've added this "channel" to my "don't suggest" list.
I do care about the environment, The problem is that human creates an invention and then blames it himself. So we humans do have this nature. And I venting the refrigerant in the air is a mistake. Let me tell you a fact. In most of the Asian countries I have seen most of the people are unaware of the recovery cylinders, which is very bad. They on daily basis vent the refrigerants in the air. No regulations are made to stop harming the environment. Blondie SL its your opinion you put this channel in a no suggestion list. I will Humbly Respect that. And I in my opinion giving heart to the comments is too respect their opinions.
@@forevertechenglish PLEASE! You are making an excuse now for your actions!!!! You're venting to the atmosphere is NOT A MISTAKE! It's a CHOICE you make! So don't try to SCAM us with BS!!!! And don't use the excuse about Asian countries not being aware. While that may be true, it does NOT excuse YOU who does KNOW about recovery of refrigerant. This is part of the bigger problem on this planet! People do crap to destroy it, all the while KNOWING what their CHOICES/ACTIONS are doing. NOTICE THE CLIMATE CHANG, especially in certain countries KNOWN for massive pollution, being hit with crazy temps 45C and above!!! So please don't try to say it was a mistake. It is not. I don't buy into people's excuses and BS. Each one of us has the responsibility to do everything that we can to LITERALLY save this planet. -EXCUSE- .... *CHOICE*
more globe warming I don't think there's that much in it. So he only filled it with 80g of R600 maybe a double or tripper would have been there. think 200-300g r134a (my car only contains 700g r134a)
Curiosamente aqui no Brasil estamos fazendo o inverso retirando o compressor r600 e substituindo pelo r134a por motivo do compressor r600 travar muito em pouco tempo. Agora por curiosidade esse embraco é fabricação aqui do Brasil?
Oh, que interessante saber, você remove o compressor inverter r600a ou o compressor normal? Pois instalei um compressor inverter r600a da embraco, que está funcionando que nem uma fera nessa geladeira. Não sei onde é fabricado o compressor.
nice video clips, showing well what is going on. the narration/translation is also very good! the technical skill of the person is also good. i'm impressed with this video which appears to come from Pakistan, if I'm not mistaken.
Good explanation! Thank you. Would be good if there would be a way to prevent the old gas from escaping to the atmosphere as ist is hazardous for the environment. Greetings from Germany.
Very instructional video. Very well done. Sir, about charging the system would have a different way so we dont have to wait this long? In our field, we cant spend so much time on one call. Thank you
This is the first vdo I am watching of yours... Very well videographed AND explained. The voiceover does not sound computer generated at all. Loved and subbed 👍
Either you are a liar or a thief! You can just like that change a "System" from one refrigerant to an other. There are factors that you Must keep in mind. There is a big difference in pressure between R-134a and R-600. Stop fooling people. No any time you have Not shown the pressure. Don't give me no "Damn" temperature, give me pressure. Why have those who invented the refrigeration system used 2 guages? ? ?
2:01 It is not legal to discharge the refrigerant to the atmosphere in most countries ! Replacing R134 with R600 is not environmentally friendly unless you pump the old gas into a cylinder for disposal. In the US, illegal since 1995, the fine is upto $37,000 and there may also be a bounty of upto $10,000 for reporting the offence Your UA-cam appears to say United States...
A bit more info about wiring specifically how do you control the temperature inside the compartments. Did the new compressor come with a control board? Im looking to restore a very old fridge but haven gotten to it due to high power consumption of the old compressor. I'd like to upgrade to an inverter. Thanks
I literally do the opposite here in the United States and replace r600a with 134a. I'm thinking about using r401a (yes 401 not 410) It was made as a replacement for r12 . R12 is about 30% more efficient than r134a so that should lower head pressure.
That final part, about condenser length and refrigerant type (and their boiling points) you mentioned at the end is not clear to me. Maybe you could prepare another video about these fluid conversions and the impact their properties could have inter original installation. Thank you!
Can you do video about condenser conversion for both scenarios of r600a and r134a, please? Many technicians will benefit from a great teacher like you.
Yes, please add more detail on the differences in the drier, what tools you are using, type of flux and solder, how to safely use the compressed nitrogen, etc. Perhaps a video especially for that?
I do not believe the compressor installed was truly an inverter compressor as you are correct that an electronic driver board would be required. It is also funny how the 134A simply disappeared out of the system when I blinked.
After frig compartment meets 34 degrees do a frost-line adjustment charge on all small converted critical-charge cap-tube systems needing more or less gas than data plate indicates.
How are you and how's the family, sir? I have a question sir, I want to change a compressor which is an R12 to R134a of the same compressor size of 1/5HP. The former technician that install the former compressor added a 1/10 condenser hereby he disconnected the inner condenser from the outside one. I am thinking sir, since R134a has a higher condensing power than an R12 would you advice if I remove the 1/10 condenser and replace it with a 1/8 or 1/6 condenser sir. It's a one-door freezer-fridge. Or I should use the condenser and add a cooler fan? Thank you sir, as I await your response.
Sorry Saw your comment today was busy. In your case, the former technician added a 1/10 condenser to compensate for the change in refrigerant. However, simply changing the condenser size may not be sufficient to ensure optimal performance. It's recommended to consult the manufacturer's guidelines or technical specifications for your specific freezer-fridge model to determine the appropriate condenser size for R134a.Removing the 1/10 condenser and replacing it with a larger condenser such as a 1/8 or 1/6 could potentially help improve the system's efficiency. However, it's crucial to ensure that the new condenser is compatible with your system and that it can be properly installed without causing any issues with airflow or space constraints.adding a cooling fan to the condenser can help improve the heat dissipation process and enhance the system's overall performance. A fan can increase the airflow across the condenser, assisting in heat transfer and maintaining lower condensing temperatures. This can be particularly beneficial when using R134a, as it operates at higher pressures and temperatures compared to R12.
1. BLEW THE CHARGE OF R12 FREON/ ILLEGAL 2. NO REGULATOR ON NITRO TANK 3. CAP TUBE LENGTH WILL VARY DUE TO DIF TYPE FREON USED 4. NO NITRO PURGE DONE WHEN BRAZING COPPER 5. DRYER WASN'T CHANGED
Can you explain the boiling points again? An example is what if you didn't use the exact 1/6 compressor r600a like the one used in the video but a 1/5? Are you going to increase the condenser lines.
Yes inverter compressor consumes less electricity than a normal compressor. The starting torque is also low. And normal compressor when start it consumes 1.3 kw of electricity. And after 10 seconds goes to it normal 310 consumption. The inverter compressor starts from 0 amps to its max watt, Depends on what size is the compressor.
Well you shouldn't be venting into the atmosphere of refrigerants. Just because other people do that dose not mean you shuld do it to. There are many ways to recover and make recovery devices. I know many people have been brow beating you for venting but its something that seriously shouldn't be done. Im glad to see people working on and repairing old refrigeration equipment instead of throwing them away tho. I wish people in my home country wernt infected with the throw away mind virus. Good on you for keeping the refrigerator out of the trash. But please if possible invest into making or aquiering refrigerant recovery devices. As techs we are all responsible for not venting into the atmosphere.
Measure other similar refrigerators. Some refrigerators heat up the windings in this way for about 1 minute, while the motor stops, if the refrigerator was not connected to the mains for some time, and this may not be a fault but a normal operating mode. Other factors decide whether it is also a mistake. Then the power factor of the inverter converter is practically 1, it cannot be 0.6, since the inverter consumption is exclusively active. This is then either wrongly measured, or it is a different misunderstanding in terms.
Os HFCs são gases de efeito estufa mais de 100 vezes piores que o CO2 mas não são prejudiciais à camada de ozônio, os que danificaram a camada de ozônio foram os CFCs como R12, R22, etc.
I'm curious as to why you cut off the service valve and brazed it shut - Why did you not leave it on for ease of future servicing and save yourself the effort while you're at it?
well it costed around 60 dollars in doing it in my country. The cost could vary country by country. The other thing is I have used a good condition old inverter compressor. That has made the cost down in converting it.
Why did you change it to r600a.. Is R600a inverter compressor? I head r134a is fast cooling than R600a.... Because am planing to change my r600a compressor to r134a, compressor to my chest freezer... Pls advice
What is used to control the compressor ? How did you calculate the right R600a compressor for a given R134A system (R600a are usually LST and don't have any muscles to start). Anyway, it's interresting that it is possible. Usually when i see systems converted from fx R290 to R134A or opposite, i run away. I don't wanna mess with other peoples hacks.
EPA rule on R600a from their website: "The Final Rule: Revision of the Venting Prohibition for Specific Refrigerant Substitutes exempts... isobutane (R-600a) and R-441A in household refrigerators, freezers, and combination refrigerators and freezers, and propane (R-290) in retail food refrigerators and freezers (stand-alone units only)." Butane and propane are not illegal to vent... just highly flammmable/explosive. Be careful. Think more about safety on these.
Very clear annunciation, no distracting background music - this helped along with your clear step by step replacement process.
I'm impressed you survived.
Its AI
I fixed the fan motor in my aunt's fridge today. Now youtube recommended me this video, my job looks like kid's job now after seeing what you did😂
😂😂
Satisfação por ter instalado um compressor fabricado no Brasil
in 1993 I was 30 and I changed the motor-compressor to r-12 in 45 minutes ... and my knees did not hurt)))
Cool, noone cares...
I'm old myself I get what you're saying. However now my knees always hurt.
@@kirkstaggs9773 ok-ok
@@kirkstaggs9773 Still, noone cares... Keep that for yourself.
@@PiotrK2022 who hurt you? Did your dad leave for milk and cigarettes and never came back? Or does your mom complain about her knees after a hard night's work.
I'm amazed it's cost effective to replace the compressor and re gas with hours of labour on a very old freezer. I note the old gas was let into the atmosphere. That's not allowed in many countries.
Yes Inverter compressors work on variable frequency drive, which makes them to adjust the speed of the compressor using control boards. Also they can be smartly Used with thermistors to control the refrigerator temperature, Well I checked one of your video too. You are doing good work to. Appreciate your work too.
in their country it is much cheaper to repair the unit rather than buying a new one.
Yes it do is..
what he does is illegal everywhere on this planet. He MUST not release the R134 to the atmosphere
@johgude5045 you can give him recycling machine, he can't afford it
Use a pressure regulator for the N2. In Romania these are delivered with 200 Bars. I would really not feed the circuit with this pressure. Regulating pressure by tapping on the valve is just insane. You are only regulating the flow, if the system is not open you can build up that pressure in the circuit....
Last week my fridge totally gave up. I figured it would be the relais and compressor like in your vid. But since i didn't have all the equipment and knowledge you have, i figured to buy another fridge and let them take away the old one. In contrast to the fridge in your video, mine was pristine from the inside, no filth or stains or anything. I actually hope they refurbish my old one at the depot, since there is already enough waste. Also i am glad there still exist simple fridges that don't have bluetooth or other of those electronics inside. (Unfort. not with washing machines. I can't find a single washing machine anymore with a mechanical clockwork cylinder inside. All bleep bleep electronics now). Keep up the good job!
You can rip the beep beeps out and replace it with older system, or an Arduino
Check out Speed Queen washers.
You are a perfect candidate for the carbon felt pad used to protect from welding and I'm sure brazing. You'll still need the regular wet cloth to cool. I was amazed it was able to protect whatever I put under it when Arc Welding.
Asbestos always worked great , just not good for Health .
You have acetylene,pressure washer,vacuum pump!,don't have nitrogen regulator?😂😅
Yesterday i convert R600 fridge/ freezer to R134a. Had to change condenser, compressor and filter drier. Also shortened the capillary tube, now freezer compartment is at -25C and fridge compartment at 4C. Pressures when saturated are 5psi on low side and 120psi on high side.
Thanks for the info
@@el1Mundo on what basis??
Can you explain why you shortened the capillary?
to reduce restriction, with tube in original length the high side was getting too much and the low side went into vacuum@@kareemhameed4042
@@kareemhameed4042모세관이 길면 필요한 압력보다 높아지기 때문입니다.
I had several old fridges that had rusted compressor pipes and all the R12 had gone years ago. The compressors still started and ran okay. I replaced the rusted bits with brazed copper pipe. I the pressurised the system with fuel grade LPG (propane butane mix). I then let all the gas out again and did this several times. As I refilled I watched the compressor current which did not get up to the rated current on the compressor label. Ice started to form on the suction side so I bled gas off until it stopped and then a bit more. After the fridge had come down to temperature, a little ice was forming again so I bled off a bit more. Two of those fridges are still okay ten years later,.No vacuum pump, no gauges, no oil change, no capillary change, no problems, lower power use, shorter running cycle just LPG highlighted on the label. Not illegal to bleed LPG to atmosphere. Most domestic gear chucked out can be home repaired.
problem is, that the fridge maybe become a BBQ one day.........
@@rearspeaker6364 That's the same thing car mechanics used to say about converting car air conditioners over. It's just nonsense fear mongering. There is so little gas in it that this will never happen. Remember, you have to have the correct fuel/air misture for combustion. Also propane and butane systems run at a lower pressure, so there is even less chance of a leak than before it was converted.
@@ericoppel5698 I'll have to try it in a car air conditioner, using some propane from a forklift.
Absolute illegal in Europe, to release coolant gas into atmosphere. The fine is up to 55000 $
Really ? What about methan CO2 ?
It's illegal to small in Europe isn't it,
Yieks
A tie chladničky čo vozite kade tade po Afrike a oni ich tam likviduju len tak to si im bol povedť tiež aby ho nevypušťali do ovzdušia ty mudrc ??? prihriaty ?
You got any religious codes to site.
This video is more educative than the brain-interface program installers in the Matrix.
Thanks dude!
Extremely good video, I have old rounded fridge or cooler, what ever it is and want to use it it, but old compressor is working, but for sure, no forever.
If you are measuring the temperature, then go closer to the object.
Many sensors have a 30° opening, this means that the sensor-area is around 30cm if you have a distance of 30cm.
The laser there is only good to see were is the center-point of this circle.
Some sensors have a focal point of 1:12 (2.5cm point at 30cm distance) or some very good with 1:60.
Many people are doing it wrong, because they think that the laser itself is the measurement-device.
And the surface what you want to measure should be black. If I measure a aluminium surface of a heat-sink, then I paint the surface black with a permanent marker before the measuring. If the black area is only 1cm in diameter, then I use only a distance of 1cm.
Oh that's a new thing, thanks man
@@forevertechenglish
IR thermometers are pretty neat. The one I have uses 2 or more thermocouples to measure the temperature-one exposed to light from the outside and the other not. The temperature difference indicates how much IR light is hitting the sensor.
Lenses focus the light, so there's a focal distance where the measurement area is smallest, and getting closer or farther away makes it bigger (think of a magnifying glass focusing sunlight). The manufacturer generally tells you how large the measurement area is for each device. You're measuring the 4th power mean temperature of the measurement area, so if you measure something half hot and half cold the thermometer will show a reading closer to the hotter temperature.
The IR emissivity of many materials is >0.9, but certain metals are a common exception. This pretty much means that those metals with low emissivity emit a small percentage of the IR radiation an ideal black body with emissivity 1 would. Such materials often reflect IR, so you're likely to measure the temperature of the reflection and the IR mirror you think you're measuring.
Instead of using that type of sensor use thermocouple - simple :)
@@Optimuseq - Yes, this would be more easy, you only have to get a contact with the other material.
@@micropower8 more precise
Checking for excess oil in the evaporator is a very in important step. Good he emphasized that
Great point!
Why? Could you explain?
@@alexandrumarzenco6998 if a compressor is running while there is a leak, the excess temperature of the compressor can atomize the oil that's supposed to stay in the compressor. This oil freezes in the evaporator causing a blockage
we still have compressors from Zil Moscow refrigerators, produced in 1971. I installed it on the freezer and filled it with freon R134a. video can be watched on my channel, there is even with
English subtitles.
Great video! Very helpful and a good explanation of the process.
I understand English is not your first language, so some future help for your English translations 🙂:
It is not "smoke" coming out of the vacuum pump, it is moisture/steam. Smoke in English is just associated with something burning.
The "Pinching Pin" would be better called the "Piercing Pin". It is penetrating a hole or piercing in English. Pinching is just to squeeze something together.
Keep up the great work! You have a new subscriber!
Thanks it will help me alot🙏☺️
Yea.. The gas is not 0ne hundred thirty four A... You could shorten the video if you just said 134a. Are you using a translation to engrish ?.. oops i mean English.
Muito bom esse serviço. Pra fazer a nova carga de R600 poderia ter calculado 40% da quantidade original de R134. Isso é o que usam em média.
Abraços do Brazil.
Obrigado, meu querido irmão. Agradeço seu comentário do brasil
Not only the comments but also the compressor is made in Brazil 😂
@@carlosm4806 yep that's true
@@carlosm4806honest i think all thos video is made in brazil just with english narration
@@franciscoferreira-eh1yu Nope, those plugs aren't used in Brazil, those plugs are used in India and some African countries.
This my best work that I learne for three years in school please any looking for a job in this settle..
❤best video 📹 so far🎉 watching u from Bangladesh 🇧🇩!thanks a lotz! Wat a xcellent video so far!
Congratulations... regards from Athens Greece...
appreciated
Nitrogen regulator or you may no longer be with us
I use it everytime, but I knew no high pressure was required in this case.
😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
Ahahahahahahah. You think safety is on the list for overseas guys. He probably doesn't have one. Things are not easy to get don't forget.
He works like someone who has no fucking idea , saw someone doing it and did it
@@forevertechenglish your confusing of flow and pressure is dangerous.
This dude know what he is going.. Appreciate your efforts in sharing us this video.
I appreciate that!
No he is wreckless and dangerous. He built a bomb.
wrong...not supposed to vent refrigerant to the atmosphere. This guy should be fired.
OMG the amount of dust in that fridge is totally off the charts. I cleaned out my desktop gaming PC after 2 years of daily use & it had only a fraction of the dust that fridge had.
No he does not. Dude let straight up refrigerant into the atmosphere...
Did you know that venting refrigerant to the atmosphere is a crime? It is required to be recovered per EPA 608.
Yes, that's true.
Yes, this is horrible advice and you should not show this in a a video, you inspire others to do the same, amount of environmental damage from venting that refrigerant is more than you'll ever save from installing the inverter compressor. At least rent a recovery unit and recycle the r134A
Hope To get one in the future, And yes I would not recommend anyone to vent the refrigerant. As I don't have one. I had to vent to fix the unit.
It seems to me that there was not much R134a left in the unit, since there was only a very brief hissing noise when the line was cut, so comparable to the 'minimis' release allowed by epa, even if technically illegal.
EPA has no jurisdiction in India, just saying 😂😂😂
You need a nitrogen gas regulator, but you still did a fairly good job.
Thank you
There are no subtitles in Hebrew.
You might require a regulator and pressure guage to be able to show the pressure supplied to the system, something around 15-18 PSI should do
@@gpsfleetmatic only industries na em dey use this nitrogen flush system. For naija here, we make use of cooking gas (LPG) very good than nitrogen.
@@kareemhameed4042 you mean use LPG for flushing? I never tried that, I use Nitrogen, I only use LPG + Oxygen for the brazing. LPG is highly flammable and high risk. I know of using Paint Thinners for flushing as well
I hope this variable speed compressor is better than the one LG manufactures, as they are still having problems with them failing.
Have you ever thought of converting to an old school 134a compressor,,relay start....these lg Compressors are shit😂
Thanks a lot for this, really cool explaination !
Quick question: Don't we have a simple equivalent factor between R600a and R134a ?
Basically we are not extending or shortening the length pipes significatively so why can't we just use "original manufacturer R134a weight" X (standard_equivalent_factor) ?
Cheers !
Please add more detail on the differences in the drier/why you are changing it, where and how you purchased the compressor/drier, what tools you are using. what kind of torch, type of flux and solder, how to safely use the compressed nitrogen, etc. Perhaps a video especially for that?
Sir, you are practical as well as theoretical,,and thinking person, perfect tidy job, perfect job done, awasome job sir,
Thanks
Remember when i asked You about noisy inverter compresor?i have changed the charge with a new one(r600a).Now the compresor îs silent.I will check further about a moisture issue in the sistem.Have a Nice dau!
So you just release the gas to the atmosphere. Good to see you care about environment. You deserve a medal.
134a has been used as a propellant in aerosol cans for years up until recently when it was phased out and replace with 152a. You're "canned air" was 134a until 2017.
Don't even try to communicate or reason with a climatard, they're brainwashed beyond any hope.
There are some countries where they just don't give 2 fks about the planet at all!!!
This ID10T proves that by giving your comment a heart.
I've added this "channel" to my "don't suggest" list.
I do care about the environment, The problem is that human creates an invention and then blames it himself. So we humans do have this nature. And I venting the refrigerant in the air is a mistake. Let me tell you a fact. In most of the Asian countries I have seen most of the people are unaware of the recovery cylinders, which is very bad. They on daily basis vent the refrigerants in the air. No regulations are made to stop harming the environment.
Blondie SL its your opinion you put this channel in a no suggestion list. I will Humbly Respect that. And I in my opinion giving heart to the comments is too respect their opinions.
@@forevertechenglish PLEASE!
You are making an excuse now for your actions!!!!
You're venting to the atmosphere is
NOT A MISTAKE!
It's a CHOICE you make! So don't try to SCAM us with BS!!!!
And don't use the excuse about Asian countries not being aware. While that may be true, it does NOT excuse YOU who does KNOW about recovery of refrigerant.
This is part of the bigger problem on this planet!
People do crap to destroy it, all the while KNOWING what their CHOICES/ACTIONS are doing.
NOTICE THE CLIMATE CHANG, especially in certain countries KNOWN for massive pollution, being hit with crazy temps 45C and above!!!
So please don't try to say it was a mistake.
It is not.
I don't buy into people's excuses and BS.
Each one of us has the responsibility to do everything that we can to LITERALLY save this planet.
-EXCUSE- .... *CHOICE*
R134a has an gwp of 1430.
3,50kg of r134a is equivalent to 5t of co2 👌
A car dose 380 kg of co2 in one year
more globe warming
I don't think there's that much in it.
So he only filled it with 80g of R600
maybe a double or tripper would have been there.
think 200-300g r134a
(my car only contains 700g r134a)
@@lyrapkfvl4374 This fridge contained only 150g I think.
Mình chỉ góp ý. Bạn sử dụng vải sợi carbon để hàn các góc dễ hơn nhé... Vải carbon sợi thủy tinh không bị cháy khi gặp nhiệt độ cao
Vâng, đó là một gợi ý tốt.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Keep it up
My pleasure
اشكرك مهندس
لكن لم يتم عمل إعاقة لفريون 600
ما السبب ؟ام أن إعاقته هي نفس إعاقة 134؟
Embraco, That's a Brazilian Compressor...👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for the education!
👍👍👍👍... Pekalongan, Jawa Tengah, Indonesia 🙏
Curiosamente aqui no Brasil estamos fazendo o inverso retirando o compressor r600 e substituindo pelo r134a por motivo do compressor r600 travar muito em pouco tempo. Agora por curiosidade esse embraco é fabricação aqui do Brasil?
Oh, que interessante saber, você remove o compressor inverter r600a ou o compressor normal? Pois instalei um compressor inverter r600a da embraco, que está funcionando que nem uma fera nessa geladeira. Não sei onde é fabricado o compressor.
nice video clips, showing well what is going on. the narration/translation is also very good! the technical skill of the person is also good. i'm impressed with this video which appears to come from Pakistan, if I'm not mistaken.
Good explanation! Thank you. Would be good if there would be a way to prevent the old gas from escaping to the atmosphere as ist is hazardous for the environment. Greetings from Germany.
Amazing explanation and hand work. Thanks for this informative post.
انك مبدع حقا استمر فنحن نتعلم منك الكثير 🤍
thank you very much sir for sharing,God bless.
You are very welcome
Very instructional video. Very well done.
Sir, about charging the system would have a different way so we dont have to wait this long?
In our field, we cant spend so much time on one call.
Thank you
This is the first vdo I am watching of yours... Very well videographed AND explained. The voiceover does not sound computer generated at all. Loved and subbed 👍
How does the voice not sound CG? The tone emphasis is all wrong
@@mickwolf1077 as is the timing and several word choices. Understandable, but obviously very CG.
Either you are a liar or a thief! You can just like that change a "System" from one refrigerant to an other. There are factors that you Must keep in mind. There is a big difference in pressure between R-134a and R-600. Stop fooling people. No any time you have Not shown the pressure. Don't give me no "Damn" temperature, give me pressure. Why have those who invented the refrigeration system used 2 guages? ? ?
2:01 It is not legal to discharge the refrigerant to the atmosphere in most countries ! Replacing R134 with R600 is not environmentally friendly unless you pump the old gas into a cylinder for disposal.
In the US, illegal since 1995, the fine is upto $37,000 and there may also be a bounty of upto $10,000 for reporting the offence
Your UA-cam appears to say United States...
A bit more info about wiring specifically how do you control the temperature inside the compartments. Did the new compressor come with a control board?
Im looking to restore a very old fridge but haven gotten to it due to high power consumption of the old compressor. I'd like to upgrade to an inverter. Thanks
I literally do the opposite here in the United States and replace r600a with 134a. I'm thinking about using r401a (yes 401 not 410) It was made as a replacement for r12 . R12 is about 30% more efficient than r134a so that should lower head pressure.
What about reclaim of the refrigerante first
If you recover the old R-12 or R-134 refrigerant, could you reuse it again (after filtering)? The old refrigerant is very expensive now?
thank you for your good explanation
Glad it was helpful!
you vented that stuff to atmosphere?
love the smell of vented refrigerant! YUM. Very entertaining vid!
Thank you 😋
Thanks for your sharing
That final part, about condenser length and refrigerant type (and their boiling points) you mentioned at the end is not clear to me. Maybe you could prepare another video about these fluid conversions and the impact their properties could have inter original installation.
Thank you!
because the metric system and Celsius is used and also Indian plugs ( 226 Volt 50 Hz) it was not filmed in the US
And the use of cheap computer voice.
And yet, this channel just gives hearts to everyone, even negative comments.
TOO FUNNY!
😁👍😅😂🤣✨
I give Heat To every comment is because I appreciate their opinions too.
Here I Go I gave to yours as well.
8:18 It is from either India or Pakistan.
Very talented
great video again mate , thank you for the knowledge
Thanks
Thank you sir ❤❤🎉
Is there any point to flowing nitrogen through the system while you braze? Can you ?
Very interesting vids! Thanks! ☺👍
Can you do video about condenser conversion for both scenarios of r600a and r134a, please? Many technicians will benefit from a great teacher like you.
Appreciated
Appreciated
Yes, please add more detail on the differences in the drier, what tools you are using, type of flux and solder, how to safely use the compressed nitrogen, etc. Perhaps a video especially for that?
Is the change compressor a higher one or the same 1/6 of the danfoss?
The inverter need operating voltage and control voltage. Would you share how you wire the inverter.
I do not believe the compressor installed was truly an inverter compressor as you are correct that an electronic driver board would be required. It is also funny how the 134A simply disappeared out of the system when I blinked.
After frig compartment meets 34 degrees do a frost-line adjustment charge on all small converted critical-charge cap-tube systems needing more or less gas than data plate indicates.
How are you and how's the family, sir?
I have a question sir, I want to change a compressor which is an R12 to R134a of the same compressor size of 1/5HP. The former technician that install the former compressor added a 1/10 condenser hereby he disconnected the inner condenser from the outside one. I am thinking sir, since R134a has a higher condensing power than an R12 would you advice if I remove the 1/10 condenser and replace it with a 1/8 or 1/6 condenser sir. It's a one-door freezer-fridge. Or I should use the condenser and add a cooler fan?
Thank you sir, as I await your response.
Sorry Saw your comment today was busy. In your case, the former technician added a 1/10 condenser to compensate for the change in refrigerant. However, simply changing the condenser size may not be sufficient to ensure optimal performance. It's recommended to consult the manufacturer's guidelines or technical specifications for your specific freezer-fridge model to determine the appropriate condenser size for R134a.Removing the 1/10 condenser and replacing it with a larger condenser such as a 1/8 or 1/6 could potentially help improve the system's efficiency. However, it's crucial to ensure that the new condenser is compatible with your system and that it can be properly installed without causing any issues with airflow or space constraints.adding a cooling fan to the condenser can help improve the heat dissipation process and enhance the system's overall performance. A fan can increase the airflow across the condenser, assisting in heat transfer and maintaining lower condensing temperatures. This can be particularly beneficial when using R134a, as it operates at higher pressures and temperatures compared to R12.
See the technical specification sticker on your refrigerator.
1. BLEW THE CHARGE OF R12 FREON/ ILLEGAL
2. NO REGULATOR ON NITRO TANK
3. CAP TUBE LENGTH WILL VARY DUE TO DIF TYPE FREON USED
4. NO NITRO PURGE DONE WHEN BRAZING COPPER
5. DRYER WASN'T CHANGED
Despite all these, the refrigerator is still working, Its been 2 years now.
@@forevertechenglish Never said it wont work, just not to USA EPA and proper refer standards. but in India it could.
Okay got it, A USA HVAC Tech will have to follow the rules of EPA. I read the rules on thier website.
Saludos cordiales desde Argentina
Excellent
i love. the r600a refrigerant gas
why must you cut off the access port why cant it be left in place for future refilling ?
It will eventually leak if left unsealed.
Can you explain the boiling points again? An example is what if you didn't use the exact 1/6 compressor r600a like the one used in the video but a 1/5? Are you going to increase the condenser lines.
No I didn't increased the condenser as r600a Refrigerant is a low pressure, I Also told in the video that I had charged more refrigerant
Can the electricity consumption be reduced when the inverter compressor is installed?
Yes inverter compressor consumes less electricity than a normal compressor. The starting torque is also low. And normal compressor when start it consumes 1.3 kw of electricity. And after 10 seconds goes to it normal 310 consumption. The inverter compressor starts from 0 amps to its max watt, Depends on what size is the compressor.
Why not put the oem compressor and stay with the 134?? It’s lasted 20 years and the new ones maybe 3 years 😊
Well i have noticed the time, i am checking out how much time this refrigerator lasts after installing the r600a compressor
Well you shouldn't be venting into the atmosphere of refrigerants. Just because other people do that dose not mean you shuld do it to. There are many ways to recover and make recovery devices. I know many people have been brow beating you for venting but its something that seriously shouldn't be done. Im glad to see people working on and repairing old refrigeration equipment instead of throwing them away tho. I wish people in my home country wernt infected with the throw away mind virus. Good on you for keeping the refrigerator out of the trash. But please if possible invest into making or aquiering refrigerant recovery devices. As techs we are all responsible for not venting into the atmosphere.
The only correct reply to this idiot. Letting out the Flouron into the atmosphere instead of buying a new refrigerator. Thrift at a fully wrong place.
Excellent work. Where did you get the compressor and inverter to drive the compressor?
I got it from a local compressor vendor
Que serviço de primeira congratulations from Brazil
Obrigado
Very well explained. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you🙏 nicely explain.
what is the solder stick you use? is it normal solder or a spezial thing?
Thanks
Welcome
awesome bro! i wish i could do the same here in Indonesia
Measure other similar refrigerators. Some refrigerators heat up the windings in this way for about 1 minute, while the motor stops, if the refrigerator was not connected to the mains for some time, and this may not be a fault but a normal operating mode. Other factors decide whether it is also a mistake.
Then the power factor of the inverter converter is practically 1, it cannot be 0.6, since the inverter consumption is exclusively active. This is then either wrongly measured, or it is a different misunderstanding in terms.
Que legal! Jogou o gás mais nocivo para a camada de ozônio direto na atmosfera! Parabéns!👏👏👏👏👏👏
Os HFCs são gases de efeito estufa mais de 100 vezes piores que o CO2 mas não são prejudiciais à camada de ozônio, os que danificaram a camada de ozônio foram os CFCs como R12, R22, etc.
This does not happen in USA. Because the labor cost would be more than a new refrigerator.
I would like to know how you connected the inverter compressor to a regular 220v source?
The PCB board converts it.
I need to pc board
try cleaning the coils too, sometimes it helps
I'm curious as to why you cut off the service valve and brazed it shut - Why did you not leave it on for ease of future servicing and save yourself the effort while you're at it?
I did it to make the refrigerator look like original.
As like the company.
@@forevertechenglish Ah I understand, thank you.
Well done ,great results ,its an energy and food saver, only wondering about the total cost of converting ?
well it costed around 60 dollars in doing it in my country. The cost could vary country by country. The other thing is I have used a good condition old inverter compressor. That has made the cost down in converting it.
@@forevertechenglish Both sides are economic , converting and saving energy as well as cost ,very good solution, all the best .
Cool video! How do you translate the video to English? This is probably one of the best translations ever😅
using Ai.
Had you ever replace a constant speed compressor with an inverter one with all electrical and control circuit?
Great job
Why did you change it to r600a..
Is R600a inverter compressor?
I head r134a is fast cooling than R600a....
Because am planing to change my r600a compressor to r134a, compressor to my chest freezer...
Pls advice
hi, is it same size of the capillary tube for refrigerant R134a or the different size of R600a ?
I have used the same capillary.
Ini sih bukan kompressor inverter
Kompressor 220v...tapi pakai R600@
What is used to control the compressor ? How did you calculate the right R600a compressor for a given R134A system (R600a are usually LST and don't have any muscles to start).
Anyway, it's interresting that it is possible. Usually when i see systems converted from fx R290 to R134A or opposite, i run away. I don't wanna mess with other peoples hacks.
relayyy.
That compressor is gonna run at half speed. Most of them run at 90hz and some even up to 120hz.
Amigo, sempre quis saber se é possível usar o sistema de uma geladeira para ao mesmo tempo que refrigera também esquenta água. Seria possível?
Great vid.
EPA rule on R600a from their website:
"The Final Rule: Revision of the Venting Prohibition for Specific Refrigerant Substitutes exempts... isobutane (R-600a) and R-441A in household refrigerators, freezers, and combination refrigerators and freezers, and propane (R-290) in retail food refrigerators and freezers (stand-alone units only)."
Butane and propane are not illegal to vent... just highly flammmable/explosive. Be careful. Think more about safety on these.
Shouldnt you purge the valve after you puncture it and before you connect it to the system? Seems like there could be some air contamination in there.