I came here for the "you did it wrong comments". Good job on the diy at least you had the b@lls to to it yourself unlike 99.9% of the people here that hire a handyman to hang a picture frame for them.
I see you have the UA-cam “experts” figured out , I love it man it all comes from them watching the DIY channel HGTV makes them experts and like you said couldn’t hang a picture.
Hey, as a handyman man I resent this comment. I get paid to do fun stuff other people are afraid to do daily. Don't encourage this. 😁 Looks awesome man. I like you.
This stuff is extremely insulating. Closed cell will provide on average 7.5 r value per inch of thickness. Both canisters you see here look like the 600 board foot version for closed or 1200 for open cell. Open cell can do about 3.4-4 r value per inch. Not recommended for roof tho. You'd want closed for that. Depending on where you are. 3 inches of closed cell would be enough for your walls. So these two canisters would yield around 200sqft. Aka expensive AF
You remind me of that guy AL on the show Home Improvement. It's the smile and beard. You looked like you were enjoying the tank shake. And that suit and mask looked like a creature feature from the 1960s Science Fiction. Good job man.
I live in Texas and have r-15, r-19, r-30 fiberglass roll insulation & blue board i installed and everything sealed correctly to avoid a hoist of problems like moisture to prevent future rot, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
I would recommend installing baffles between. I wouldn't recommend the spray foam, also this kit costs almost the same as having the spray foam installed including materials... but it isn't my house looks good from here
I get different climates and whether you'll be heating and cooling the area change the installation process but anyhow love you my dear friends Don't you attack me unless you plan on really sticking it to me good.
$1200 + tax, and 600sqft of 1inch of only R6, basically just for wind insulation. ikr... i rather buy rolls of r30-60 for ~$1 per sqft. plus if youre doing it yourself i can imagine one day youre gonna be regretting spraying adhesive everywhere all over your house.
They have different size sets, but people think they are able to cover 200 to 600 sf and that is only at 1" if you get the full yield they advertise and you don't
Is it a good idea to spray directly on the backside of the roof slatting? I was told there needed to be an air-barrier between any insulation and the underside of the roofing wood to allow for air ventilation and to reduce/eliminate sweating/condensation.
Absolutely best to be direct contact with closed cell, this prevents sweat, adds a massive amount of strength, seals air leaks and no dust. I built my last home with this and will never go back to conventional insulation. There is no comparison if you live anywhere temps are extreme.
Still not doing it. I remember health issues in news past. You cant smell the chemicals but it could affect people years later IF product not mixed properly. Maybe these issues have been solved?????? There have been houses demolished due to risks years ago.
If your going to heat and cool the interior space as in this example you apply it as shown. Also there are very different methods of applying vapor barriers and insulation in different climates you don't do the same thing in North Canada as you would in Hawaii.
Once you figure out how to identify hot neutral and ground for the wires and the attaching side it all comes along easily unless your doing industrial work
@@TheTinkle1 & if you have to figure out what size of wire you need to use for the length of run that will let the equipment that you're supplying run at its peak performance. Other than that, ya the hardest part is making it all look fancelike! 🤓😎🤙🏽🤙🏽
good job but make sure is done correctly cuz even professional people had done wrong by not getting the right mix ratios and temperature, foam is really great on keeping r value but it's a double Edge knife, Current spray foam mixtures containing formaldehyde can produce the airborne MDI against which the EPA warns. Such chemicals can cause cancer and contribute to unsafe air quality.
As a plumber we hate when they do this because if you ever have a leak witch will happen, we will have to open more wall costing you more money. Could be leaking from a tee or a line or a fitting.
@@MaxPower1000. Yah here in kommiefornia there are heaters in the attic too. I sprayed the ceiling in my own house, just the living room, before adding a ceiling. I basically took a vaulted ceiling made with 2x4’s - very thin and very hot, and added another, lower ceiling and enclosed w drywall. It was far cheaper than tearing down. No wires or plumbing in the 2x4 rafters though. I’ve never seen stuff routed up next to the roof. Never. (Oh wait, your comment was about walls and not the roof like in the video. Sorry I didn’t read it right after two tries, lol. My bad!!) Yes in the walls and around pipes - yikes!! That would not be good.
I used to wire houses with this in the attic and I live in Texas middle of summer be 106 outside witch usually means hot attic NOPE it would be in the 70es and 80es up there loved them our nickname for them were bat caves lol
@@mikemiller3303 Isn't it amazing that a message that is easily understood and helpful for most of us is just spell check fodder for someone whose only aspiration (and ability) is keyboard warrior. We need a redirect icon to send them to a place they might enjoy more, like English or spelling. Have a great day!
Haha had me the first half 😄 I was gonna say that. I've had to find one pipe end in a 35 foot high, 25 x 60 foot entirely spray foamed (1 room) building. Had to have the plumber come out and point in the general area. Turns out it was about 15 feet off the ground. 😆 Now I take pictures ahead of time. 👍
Don't they make units that can detect a live wire even if it's buried in foam? Oh wait it's not the 1800's anymore...gotta be smarter than the foam...there's a tool for every job. Moral of the story don't be a tool when commenting.
Froth packs are junk and designed for patching small areas and such not doing big jobs. These do not properly mix the foam or get a proper reaction like an actual Graco pump and reactor do. I sold these things when I sold insulation and they are for very small jobs/patches.
@@skythunder4413 They running about 1.80US per sqft at 1in thickness (per board foot) on Amazon. Professionally installed is probably a bit less, but may not be where this fellow lives. The foam costs more DIY, but you aren't paying someone else. The evenness and therefore sealing of a professional install is much better though and they are liable if it goes wrong. So there would have to be a good reason to do it yourself. Often people use this for the sealing, and then use batt or loose fill for the rest. It's expensive, but the seal cannot be beat, it also makes the house stronger.
I agree, I live in Texas and have r-15 roll insulation i installed, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
I had someone spray foam a metal building I turned into a home for a client and geez I seen their setup and immediately knew I could've done it Especially like this Thanks man I'll never pay anyone to do again
@@supac4789 no my neighbor has had spray foam twice as long and his shingles are fine, my attic stays about 5 to 8 degrees above the room temperature don’t you think shingles are cooler on the backside will help them, plus my electric bill dropped substantially. From all the people I’ve talked that has spray foam love it, sure you can what if everything like , what if I get a leak, well what if I don’t ,don’t believe all the news you read talk to people that have it then make your own decision.
Jeez all the karens this stuff is fire resistant as it gets older it actually burns less the molecules shrink and less air bubbles it will reduce size by a quarter they would not sell it if it didnt work or last the new homes that are being built have this in the exterior walls and ceiling its the same stuff the professionals use one a smaller level its the best most efficient way to insulate a home
I agree, I live in Texas and have r-15, r-19, r-30 fiberglass roll insulation & blue board i installed and everything sealed correctly to avoid a hoist of problems like moisture to prevent future rot, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
@@redeye118 yes, but you would like to go with a closed cell foam ie 2lbs closed cell polyurethane foam. It’s widely used in places with cold temperatures at least where I’m from in Ontario, Canada
If done properly, depends also on foam, if using half pound foam it needs to be at least 100mm thick and 2 pound foam needs to be at least 80mm thick. 2 pound would be better because of thickness of wall cavity, if in ceiling space you have the luxury to go as thick as you want. Think of it like an esky, if you cool or heat the house it stays cool or warm longer. I did a ceiling with 125mm of half pound. That day was 45 Celsius. The client said they came home and their aircon had icicles clinging to it. They also said Its the first time they had the aircon off during the night and had to sleep under the blankets.
Spray foam can cause air quality issues if the ratio of both parts is off. Consider hiring a qualified insured professional. Your health is more important than the dyi cost savings.
@@miahzzeebest701 not quite. It’s a sub par product. It does not mix correctly you need to be above 1,000 psi to get atomization between the two materials. The piss spray with 2 crossing streams is not a proper mix
Why do people use foam in the US? We normally use rockwool or some other brand of mineral-wool. A Moisture barrier/water barrier, then 200mm (8 inches) of mineral wool, a second vapour barrier on top of the wooden trusses, then some 2" x 3" wood and another 3" of insulation in a cross-pattern over the first one. After that - cement board or dry wall over it. That is how it is done in Germany/central Europe most of the times. does not burn, non-hazardous materials - relatively cheap - easy to DIY and most importantly it lets SOME vapour through - it is not like "sealed". In my opinion far superior to any foam... But I am very well willing to learn the advantages of foam!
Because hard dense foam can be both a vapor barrier and insulator in one. It has the additional benefit of expanding into cracks and holes to make an airtight seal. It also bonds to wood or metal making it ideal for metal structures such as garages or barns.
@@BigScaryDragonGaming hey, just a fellow german here with a question :) so where does the vapor from the inside of the house go? it will just be stopped inside by the foam and condensate wich in turn can harm the load bearing structure or the interior layers. it has to go somewhere… that’s why we choose materials that deal with this and make each layer (in the outside direction) more permeable to vapor wich in turn prevents condensation INSIDE the structure of the roof I honestly don’t know how you solve the problem or if it is addressed at all
@@goddamn8958 excellent observation and you are correct. Homes with spray foam insulation require HVAC units with a mechanical air exchange to ensure the inside air does not become stale. When done correctly it can be very effective because you can control exactly how much outside air comes in and when rather than it leaking in all through everywhere. I would suggest you Google the topic to read in-depth far more about it than I can explain here. Edit: Reading your comment again I think I understand your concern is actually trapping water between the spray foam and the roof itself? As long as the roof isn’t leaking this shouldn’t be a problem and you actually have the added benefit of the spray foam preventing condensation from occurring on the underside of the roof.
@@BigScaryDragonGaming Thanks a lot for explaining it. That makes sense! I also share the same doubts as "goddamn" - my fellow German ;-) @goddamn: Ich vermute, dass in vielen US-Gebäuden dann eine automatische Be- und Entlüftung integriert ist. Haben die meisten Neubauten hierzulande ja auch (mein Haus hat auch eine zentrale Be- und Entlüftungsanlage - die ich nur selten nutze, aber das tut ja hier nun nichts zur Sache). Engl. I suppose that Air-Circulation is achieved via automated HVAC system?! How do you guys deal with moisture/vapor, if the foam is watertight/airtight? In most modern German homes a controlled and centralized ventilation system is installed - which causes a very well controlled humidity level and an exchange of air while keeing the heat energy of the used air and transferring it to the colder air from outside. We usually do NOT have ACs nor HVAC systems. We usually have in floor pipes (hundreds of yards) and use water to transfer the heat to have a comfortable floor temperature. Edit: dang - you answered while I was typing my comment hahaha
Wdym it's only 50% more and saves 30%+ monthly electrical bill plus better sound deadening & moisture block. It is expensive if you hire somebody to do it
The foam will just fall off with a little brush against it as long as it was sprayed with mold release before hand and a new respirator isn't just something you go out and buy they cost a pretty penny
very interesting. it's a time/price factor if you wish quickly and effective isolate the top in a light construction like an office point, a container or similar... (my opinion)
It’s 4am and I’m getting ready to go to work on a Sunday to insulate a house, that’s what we do and iv been trying to get my boss interested in starting to foam houses instead of using regular insulation but he’s not interested at this point he’s already a millionaire from building his insulation company from 30 years ago !!!
@@J-Mac8 yes, but it’s not going to come completely off. Because it expands it tends to embed itself into the wood fibers. In general it’s cost of labor vs cost of material scenario for builders. Cost less to just buy new boards. If you want a more eco friendly alternative you’d go with rock wool insulation to get a similar R value. For air tightness you use a sealing caulk at each connection point. The main point of going with a spray foam system is to do a closed air system that uses an air exchanger to circulate indoor and outdoor air. If you don’t have an HVAC system that uses and air exchanger you can run into moisture issues.
@@DS-qy3qv Sadly not. And because of this issue some countries (mainly in the EU) are considering banning spray foam. And rightly so. There are better ways to insulate a house, like sheep wool. It's 100% natural and fire resistant. But more expensive and slow to work with.
@@DriftKingNL NO. the fiber fill companies want you to think that. lots of misinformation out there. There is nothing better than foam. look at what they use to insulate every refrigerator, freezer, cooler or window ac unit, companies know for efficiency and effectiveness nothing can compete with foam. 1 inch of spray foam is more than twice as effective as 7 inches of fiberglass. reason being is fiber insulation does not stop convective heat loss, and that is where you loose the majority of your cooling. most batts of insulation regardless of the type have a R value of around 2. after install due to it being nearly impossible to install without air leakage, and moisture absorption. while laboratory testing for R13. It is a bias test that favors the fiber products and does not account for radiant and convective heat loss. It sucks to admit.. But R value is a useless figure in the real world. running a bead of caulking between the studs and sheathing and leaving a empty void in the wall is more effective than fiberglass.
I love saving money, however these cost more than hiring someone to foam. At lowes it costs $400 for 200 board feet. To hire someone they charge $1.55 a board foot! LOL
Used to use a similar system to spray foam adhesive for roofing tiles. Shit was a nightmare to get off of you if you accidentally got it on your hands or clothing. Should’ve had one of them suits 😂
And he used the Right PPE!!!! Not.a bad job at all other than you need to stuff the eves with batt and spray over it to stop the air flow from.comming threw
Tried one of those kits from menards... the coverage area and thickness didn't ever come close to specified not to mention that the gun didn't mix it right and it turned rubbery in area. Never again
A lot of angles to look at on this one. One of them includes the transportation of things like fiberglass insulation. That's going to take up a lot more room on a truck and require more loads and fuel burned, tires, brakes, and so forth.
I like how you used the ratchet straps to help shake the cans. Nice move.
That's how I shake my nephew to sleep lol
@@voosum be careful what your write on the Internet.
@@microdesigns2000 fr lol
I came here for the "you did it wrong comments".
Good job on the diy at least you had the b@lls to to it yourself unlike 99.9% of the people here that hire a handyman to hang a picture frame for them.
I see you have the UA-cam “experts” figured out , I love it man it all comes from them watching the DIY channel HGTV makes them experts and like you said couldn’t hang a picture.
Hey, as a handyman man I resent this comment. I get paid to do fun stuff other people are afraid to do daily. Don't encourage this. 😁 Looks awesome man. I like you.
@@user-rn3rn6nl3h hay where are you I need a handyman to do my floors
@@user-rn3rn6nl3h what ?? Idu
@@williamcrenshaw9728 are you really looking for a handyman on YT when the odds of him being close to you is little to none. Lol
This stuff is extremely insulating. Closed cell will provide on average 7.5 r value per inch of thickness. Both canisters you see here look like the 600 board foot version for closed or 1200 for open cell. Open cell can do about 3.4-4 r value per inch. Not recommended for roof tho. You'd want closed for that. Depending on where you are. 3 inches of closed cell would be enough for your walls. So these two canisters would yield around 200sqft. Aka expensive AF
Note: on average they go for around $500 for what you see here
I thought they were the 600ft canisters that cost between 600-700$
@@WhiteWolfos you are right. My prices are a bit outdated. They go for around 800 bucks now...jesus
You remind me of that guy AL on the show Home Improvement. It's the smile and beard. You looked like you were enjoying the tank shake. And that suit and mask looked like a creature feature from the 1960s Science Fiction. Good job man.
We're do you buy the tan sprayer
How to piss off an electrician an plumber all in one video.
Literally was recommended to use spray foam by the plumber lol
I live in Texas and have r-15, r-19, r-30 fiberglass roll insulation & blue board i installed and everything sealed correctly to avoid a hoist of problems like moisture to prevent future rot, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
I would recommend installing baffles between. I wouldn't recommend the spray foam, also this kit costs almost the same as having the spray foam installed including materials... but it isn't my house looks good from here
I get different climates and whether you'll be heating and cooling the area change the installation process but anyhow love you my dear friends Don't you attack me unless you plan on really sticking it to me good.
Easier and less costly to hire a company unless you've got nothing but time on your hands. The kits costs almost what I charged (labor and materials).
As a consumer I say Slade is correct, hire a truck. Unless it a small 10’x10’ or less area.
Not true at all. Diy is 1/3 the price. But you can't be a big fat pussay and diy, its impossible.
What's the cost for the 2 tanks and hose and spray gun¿? Also, how much Square Footage can those 2 cans cover¿?
$1200 + tax, and 600sqft of 1inch of only R6, basically just for wind insulation.
ikr... i rather buy rolls of r30-60 for ~$1 per sqft.
plus if youre doing it yourself i can imagine one day youre gonna be regretting spraying adhesive everywhere all over your house.
From my experience, it cost between barely less to slightly more than having a professional do a better job.
It runs $1100 for everything which is roughly 20% of what a contractor would charge you and it seals your house unlike fiberglass insulation.
They have different size sets, but people think they are able to cover 200 to 600 sf and that is only at 1" if you get the full yield they advertise and you don't
Is it a good idea to spray directly on the backside of the roof slatting? I was told there needed to be an air-barrier between any insulation and the underside of the roofing wood to allow for air ventilation and to reduce/eliminate sweating/condensation.
Absolutely best to be direct contact with closed cell, this prevents sweat, adds a massive amount of strength, seals air leaks and no dust. I built my last home with this and will never go back to conventional insulation. There is no comparison if you live anywhere temps are extreme.
@@fwaynedavis
Thank you! Will doing so affect my roof warranty?
@@ald8612 call your local professional contractor they would be more then happy to give you accurate information.
Wow you made it look easy, great job. If you don’t mind me asking, how much did the kit cost and covered sq footage? Thanks
Still not doing it. I remember health issues in news past. You cant smell the chemicals but it could affect people years later IF product not mixed properly. Maybe these issues have been solved?????? There have been houses demolished due to risks years ago.
Never put insulation next to roof decking. Need to install baffles first for proper air circulation. THEN, use spray foam if you want.
If your going to heat and cool the interior space as in this example you apply it as shown. Also there are very different methods of applying vapor barriers and insulation in different climates you don't do the same thing in North Canada as you would in Hawaii.
I was wondering how you would do this with shingles on a roof
If your HVAC unit is in attic you should insulate that space
Don't have to ventilate a "hot roof" partner....
Baffles are only needed if you have soffit venting. If it's going to be a totally enclosed space this isn't an issue.
Where did you order those from I want somw of em
Tiger Foam.
Stay tuned for the next video, how to be an electrician in 60 seconds
Zap lmao 🤣
Actually its really not that hard to do the electrical work its hard to make sure it all looks nice professional and to code
Once you figure out how to identify hot neutral and ground for the wires and the attaching side it all comes along easily unless your doing industrial work
@@TheTinkle1 & if you have to figure out what size of wire you need to use for the length of run that will let the equipment that you're supplying run at its peak performance. Other than that, ya the hardest part is making it all look fancelike! 🤓😎🤙🏽🤙🏽
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Don't use this stuff it's really bad if you don't get the mix correct
good job but make sure is done correctly cuz even professional people had done wrong by not getting the right mix ratios and temperature, foam is really great on keeping r value but it's a double Edge knife, Current spray foam mixtures containing formaldehyde can produce the airborne MDI against which the EPA warns. Such chemicals can cause cancer and contribute to unsafe air quality.
As a plumber we hate when they do this because if you ever have a leak witch will happen, we will have to open more wall costing you more money. Could be leaking from a tee or a line or a fitting.
Lots of plumbing is hidden in the rafters eh?
@@tech5298 in some states yes. When I lived in Texas there water heaters were in the attic. So eh
@@MaxPower1000.
Yah here in kommiefornia there are heaters in the attic too. I sprayed the ceiling in my own house, just the living room, before adding a ceiling. I basically took a vaulted ceiling made with 2x4’s - very thin and very hot, and added another, lower ceiling and enclosed w drywall. It was far cheaper than tearing down. No wires or plumbing in the 2x4 rafters though. I’ve never seen stuff routed up next to the roof. Never.
(Oh wait, your comment was about walls and not the roof like in the video. Sorry I didn’t read it right after two tries, lol. My bad!!) Yes in the walls and around pipes - yikes!! That would not be good.
@@Power_Glove This was in San Antonio, Texas. I dont know if it was elevation or gravity. We drained as much as we could and lower it down.
@shpoon how much area does one set cover?
Where we can buy these
Awesome video, thank you so much!
Insulation is incredible. Had my shed done ✅ but it off gassed formaldehyde for 3 years.
How do you stop that in your house?
Must have been fiberglass to off gas formaldehyde. Closed cell foam will off gas of its life. Open cell foam off gases when applied thus open cells.
What brand do you use? I have these insulation sprays I can wholesale them for cheap for yoy
Looks great 👏🏻
What kind of kit is this & where can I find it
I want to know the answer to this question too.
Tigerfoam I bought it directly from them, it is the closed cell 600 board feet kit
I used to wire houses with this in the attic and I live in Texas middle of summer be 106 outside witch usually means hot attic NOPE it would be in the 70es and 80es up there loved them our nickname for them were bat caves lol
"witch"
@@ebisu8824 I'm going to have to get after my editor he should have caught that lol
@@mikemiller3303 Ask him about the "70es" and "80es"
@@mikemiller3303 Isn't it amazing that a message that is easily understood and helpful for most of us is just spell check fodder for someone whose only aspiration (and ability) is keyboard warrior. We need a redirect icon to send them to a place they might enjoy more, like English or spelling.
Have a great day!
@@ebisu8824 Karen,,, is that you?
Ya, and make sure to spray all the wire so it can never be traced or things be serviced...o wait, all the foamers Already do that....
Haha had me the first half 😄
I was gonna say that. I've had to find one pipe end in a 35 foot high, 25 x 60 foot entirely spray foamed (1 room) building.
Had to have the plumber come out and point in the general area.
Turns out it was about 15 feet off the ground. 😆
Now I take pictures ahead of time. 👍
Red paint where the wires are or use conduit for future repair
How many times do you need to go back and fix wiring on new homes or remodels?
Don't they make units that can detect a live wire even if it's buried in foam? Oh wait it's not the 1800's anymore...gotta be smarter than the foam...there's a tool for every job. Moral of the story don't be a tool when commenting.
That stuff keeps dryrot companies in business. A small roof leak gets trapped in the foam like a sponge. Super efficient insulation though. Good video
Maybe if it is open cell.
Only it’s $900-1200 now for those kits and it doesn’t cover what you think.
620 feet at 1" thick... so realistically like 400
Now where do you order this from?
Does acetone make it dissolve like styrofoam cups?
Yes
Had my trailer roof done, only had to paint it once a year, lowered the temperature 15-20 degrees it was great
Should only have to coat it every 5-7 years.
"anyone"
Idk this seems super intimidating. I'll have to slowly move toward it...
Yeah plus if you put too thick of a coat its possible it doesnt cure right and will continue to offgas. Big thing with the spray foam insulation.
Froth packs are junk and designed for patching small areas and such not doing big jobs. These do not properly mix the foam or get a proper reaction like an actual Graco pump and reactor do. I sold these things when I sold insulation and they are for very small jobs/patches.
I hate to say it but if you have a large area to spray, it's cheaper to hire a outfit to do it .those small kit are expensive.
Yeah 86 froth packs later
Yea I was wondering the cost compared to regular drop in insulation
Yeah. It is kinda BS how expensive this DIY is...
@@skythunder4413 They running about 1.80US per sqft at 1in thickness (per board foot) on Amazon.
Professionally installed is probably a bit less, but may not be where this fellow lives. The foam costs more DIY, but you aren't paying someone else. The evenness and therefore sealing of a professional install is much better though and they are liable if it goes wrong. So there would have to be a good reason to do it yourself.
Often people use this for the sealing, and then use batt or loose fill for the rest. It's expensive, but the seal cannot be beat, it also makes the house stronger.
Yeah plus you don't get nearly as good of a product with Froth packs.
You installed the best and neatest foam I have ever seen!
You've only seen junk installs then...
By far the worst shit ever thought of for future repairs.
I agree, I live in Texas and have r-15 roll insulation i installed, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
This was extremely satisfying for some reason
Great job
Great video, may I know how much it cost for spray foam and how many square feet did it cover? Thank you
Not much. Call a professional the kits are a rip off
I had someone spray foam a metal building I turned into a home for a client and geez I seen their setup and immediately knew I could've done it Especially like this Thanks man I'll never pay anyone to do again
Congrats! No air flow from the eaves to the peak is going to cook your shingles and you’ll be replacing them far too often than you should have to
Steel roof
Metal ftw
Wrong 10 years and my shingles are fine
@@heknows5418 you’ll cut the life of those shingles in half! You’ll get 5 more years out of them and have to replace it due to them cupping!
@@supac4789 no my neighbor has had spray foam twice as long and his shingles are fine, my attic stays about 5 to 8 degrees above the room temperature don’t you think shingles are cooler on the backside will help them, plus my electric bill dropped substantially. From all the people I’ve talked that has spray foam love it, sure you can what if everything like , what if I get a leak, well what if I don’t ,don’t believe all the news you read talk to people that have it then make your own decision.
Jeez all the karens this stuff is fire resistant as it gets older it actually burns less the molecules shrink and less air bubbles it will reduce size by a quarter they would not sell it if it didnt work or last the new homes that are being built have this in the exterior walls and ceiling its the same stuff the professionals use one a smaller level its the best most efficient way to insulate a home
Best way to give yourself a disease as that foam is somewhat radioactive like asbestos
How much are two bottles and how much do you cover… what’s the benefit over regular insulation…
Awesome vid, sire!! 👍👍👍
That’s a mess
I agree, I live in Texas and have r-15, r-19, r-30 fiberglass roll insulation & blue board i installed and everything sealed correctly to avoid a hoist of problems like moisture to prevent future rot, and my attic stays around 70°s & 80°s on hot 100°+ summer days. Also its quick and easy to install, remove, replace or get access if work or repairs are ever needed to be done. The foam not so much. The fiberglass insulation isn't as messy, restrictive in multiple ways, pain instilling for repairs replacements and installing, or even take close to as long during the installation period. As long as it's installed correctly and is the correct type, rating and size for the occupied space it not only does the job, but performs and holds up just as well as any other products including the foam shown in this video.
I also have a roof/ceiling without an attic. How has this worked for you so far?
now that i've seen this video, i am also an expert
Awesome! Where can I buy this kit? I want to do my attic
Is spray foam insulation even any good?
Not for cold
@@renaud6556 no good for me then
@@redeye118 yes, but you would like to go with a closed cell foam ie 2lbs closed cell polyurethane foam. It’s widely used in places with cold temperatures at least where I’m from in Ontario, Canada
If done properly, depends also on foam, if using half pound foam it needs to be at least 100mm thick and 2 pound foam needs to be at least 80mm thick. 2 pound would be better because of thickness of wall cavity, if in ceiling space you have the luxury to go as thick as you want. Think of it like an esky, if you cool or heat the house it stays cool or warm longer.
I did a ceiling with 125mm of half pound. That day was 45 Celsius. The client said they came home and their aircon had icicles clinging to it. They also said Its the first time they had the aircon off during the night and had to sleep under the blankets.
Thanks for the replies
Spray foam can cause air quality issues if the ratio of both parts is off. Consider hiring a qualified insured professional. Your health is more important than the dyi cost savings.
Don’t listen to this foo
Or you can just read and follow the instructions on the kit.
@@miahzzeebest701 not quite. It’s a sub par product. It does not mix correctly you need to be above 1,000 psi to get atomization between the two materials. The piss spray with 2 crossing streams is not a proper mix
What brand is this? Can anyone buy it?
Um you better spray that shit thicker. Who are you ripping off??
It’s my house and it’s closed cell not open cell
Better off in thinner applications.
Omg you actually mask off the studs I've never had on a job we always hired someone to do it
What's does masking them off help with?
@@x189philthethrill just to keep the studs from getting foamed
@@donscrilla7171 I guess I just Wana know why they shouldn't be foamed
@@x189philthethrill to make the rest of the installation for the next guy paneling it easier , I would assume
What's best? Open cell or closed cell?
So any extra steps to vent the gasses out of the attic or is the ridge vent enough…?
I've always wondered why you would do that portion of the attic. Won't the sun melt the shingles or cause this stuff to lose grip over time
Thanks buddy
who makes that kit?
I did not know it was this easy wow thanks guy
How do you know if the mixture is correct?
Im planning on doing this myself soon. Thanks for this! ❤
Thanks for solving the mystery of spray, brother! Seriously. I appreciate it👍
Where can I buy these, how much is the cost, and how much area can it cover
Why do people use foam in the US?
We normally use rockwool or some other brand of mineral-wool. A Moisture barrier/water barrier, then 200mm (8 inches) of mineral wool, a second vapour barrier on top of the wooden trusses, then some 2" x 3" wood and another 3" of insulation in a cross-pattern over the first one.
After that - cement board or dry wall over it.
That is how it is done in Germany/central Europe most of the times.
does not burn, non-hazardous materials - relatively cheap - easy to DIY and most importantly it lets SOME vapour through - it is not like "sealed".
In my opinion far superior to any foam...
But I am very well willing to learn the advantages of foam!
Because hard dense foam can be both a vapor barrier and insulator in one. It has the additional benefit of expanding into cracks and holes to make an airtight seal. It also bonds to wood or metal making it ideal for metal structures such as garages or barns.
@@BigScaryDragonGaming hey, just a fellow german here with a question :)
so where does the vapor from the inside of the house go? it will just be stopped inside by the foam and condensate wich in turn can harm the load bearing structure or the interior layers. it has to go somewhere…
that’s why we choose materials that deal with this and make each layer (in the outside direction) more permeable to vapor wich in turn prevents condensation INSIDE the structure of the roof
I honestly don’t know how you solve the problem or if it is addressed at all
@@goddamn8958 excellent observation and you are correct. Homes with spray foam insulation require HVAC units with a mechanical air exchange to ensure the inside air does not become stale. When done correctly it can be very effective because you can control exactly how much outside air comes in and when rather than it leaking in all through everywhere. I would suggest you Google the topic to read in-depth far more about it than I can explain here.
Edit: Reading your comment again I think I understand your concern is actually trapping water between the spray foam and the roof itself? As long as the roof isn’t leaking this shouldn’t be a problem and you actually have the added benefit of the spray foam preventing condensation from occurring on the underside of the roof.
@@BigScaryDragonGaming Thanks a lot for explaining it. That makes sense!
I also share the same doubts as "goddamn" - my fellow German ;-)
@goddamn: Ich vermute, dass in vielen US-Gebäuden dann eine automatische Be- und Entlüftung integriert ist.
Haben die meisten Neubauten hierzulande ja auch (mein Haus hat auch eine zentrale Be- und Entlüftungsanlage - die ich nur selten nutze, aber das tut ja hier nun nichts zur Sache).
Engl. I suppose that Air-Circulation is achieved via automated HVAC system?!
How do you guys deal with moisture/vapor, if the foam is watertight/airtight?
In most modern German homes a controlled and centralized ventilation system is installed - which causes a very well controlled humidity level and an exchange of air while keeing the heat energy of the used air and transferring it to the colder air from outside. We usually do NOT have ACs nor HVAC systems.
We usually have in floor pipes (hundreds of yards) and use water to transfer the heat to have a comfortable floor temperature.
Edit: dang - you answered while I was typing my comment hahaha
It's not that common really. Most houses use fiberglass insulation with a paper backing as the vapor barrier.
Omg he is doing magic 🪄 by throwing clothes into the air & wearing it with a second
How much does a set up like that go for?
$ 990 on Amazon
Bought direct from tiger foam at 785 per kit
Hell yeah thanks
@@shpoon8184 Never mind I found another comment where you mentioned it does 600 board feet.
Foam insulation is so expensive it takes 20+ years to pay for itself compared to fiberglass batt.
Wdym it's only 50% more and saves 30%+ monthly electrical bill plus better sound deadening & moisture block. It is expensive if you hire somebody to do it
And good luck finding a roof leak
@@WhiteWolfos The shit is garbage. I wouldn't ever use foam insulation
@@WhiteWolfos I agree not to mention the strength that adds to the structure
I am in the process of having professionals do my house right now. I will have extra money in my pocket by 2024
Bro I think it's time for a new respirator
The foam will just fall off with a little brush against it as long as it was sprayed with mold release before hand and a new respirator isn't just something you go out and buy they cost a pretty penny
very interesting. it's a time/price factor if you wish quickly and effective isolate the top in a light construction like an office point, a container or similar... (my opinion)
What product is that ?
Better than no insolation.
What about insulation runners?
What the fuck is an insulation runner? Sold insulation for the largest private distributor in the country and have never heard thay tetm.
It’s 4am and I’m getting ready to go to work on a Sunday to insulate a house, that’s what we do and iv been trying to get my boss interested in starting to foam houses instead of using regular insulation but he’s not interested at this point he’s already a millionaire from building his insulation company from 30 years ago !!!
Can you reuse the wood after sprayed?
@@J-Mac8 yes, but it’s not going to come completely off. Because it expands it tends to embed itself into the wood fibers. In general it’s cost of labor vs cost of material scenario for builders. Cost less to just buy new boards. If you want a more eco friendly alternative you’d go with rock wool insulation to get a similar R value. For air tightness you use a sealing caulk at each connection point. The main point of going with a spray foam system is to do a closed air system that uses an air exchanger to circulate indoor and outdoor air. If you don’t have an HVAC system that uses and air exchanger you can run into moisture issues.
Don’t forget to make sure your mix is perfect. If not this toxic mess will “off-gas” for years and make you sick.
Well damn, that's more important than the fact its doable. Hopefully everyone who does it knows that
@@DS-qy3qv Sadly not. And because of this issue some countries (mainly in the EU) are considering banning spray foam. And rightly so.
There are better ways to insulate a house, like sheep wool. It's 100% natural and fire resistant. But more expensive and slow to work with.
Nah
@@DriftKingNL NO. the fiber fill companies want you to think that. lots of misinformation out there. There is nothing better than foam. look at what they use to insulate every refrigerator, freezer, cooler or window ac unit, companies know for efficiency and effectiveness nothing can compete with foam. 1 inch of spray foam is more than twice as effective as 7 inches of fiberglass. reason being is fiber insulation does not stop convective heat loss, and that is where you loose the majority of your cooling. most batts of insulation regardless of the type have a R value of around 2. after install due to it being nearly impossible to install without air leakage, and moisture absorption. while laboratory testing for R13. It is a bias test that favors the fiber products and does not account for radiant and convective heat loss. It sucks to admit.. But R value is a useless figure in the real world. running a bead of caulking between the studs and sheathing and leaving a empty void in the wall is more effective than fiberglass.
Can someone share a link to this product setup? Please
Hire a professional this crap doesn’t ever mix properly. Plus you get a warranty from the contractor.
How much for the kit
I love saving money, however these cost more than hiring someone to foam. At lowes it costs $400 for 200 board feet. To hire someone they charge $1.55 a board foot! LOL
This was 730 for 600 board feet
What product did you use? @@shpoon8184
Congratulations for one million views!
Used to use a similar system to spray foam adhesive for roofing tiles. Shit was a nightmare to get off of you if you accidentally got it on your hands or clothing. Should’ve had one of them suits 😂
Hey bro where you can buy this foam bottles??? They’re available in Texas??
I bought them on tigerfoams website I think they ship anywhere in the states, not sure though
What's the cost to get this system going ?!?!?!
The kit runs about $700.00 and covers approximately 300 sq. ft.
Dude. Had to do that once. seeing as I'm a carpenter and never have to, I had alot of fun
thanks for this bro i recently got looked at for a spot on the team and have no experience they’re paying $15-50 an hour i want to learn ASAP!!!
Where did you purchase the foam kit
Lowes and Home Depot sell the kits
Thanks looking unto this as a future Career
Ain't that how they used to do the old asbestos roof insulation?
Product link?
It looks very eco…
And he used the Right PPE!!!! Not.a bad job at all other than you need to stuff the eves with batt and spray over it to stop the air flow from.comming threw
Tried one of those kits from menards... the coverage area and thickness didn't ever come close to specified not to mention that the gun didn't mix it right and it turned rubbery in area. Never again
I’d recommend tiger foam kits, worked well for me
How can I buy the set of tanks
Is this the Tiger Foam kit? I have a ton of spaces I need to insulate, this would be awesome. I hate fiberglass itchy fluff!
Fiberglass needs to be banned
So... then the wood is sealed behind some type of plastic foam?
Same swing my mom has.
I know your mom!
@@workingtothebone256 that's what she said
That was your mom!!!
@@hlcorick that IS my mom!
@@hlcorick Still crying, sweetheart?
Do this in the UK and you won't be able to sell your house for someone who's getting a mortgage they won't do it say it causes dry rot.
True in the UK, but they're wrong.
Where can I get the foam
From a professional contractor
Is this good for the environment?
A lot of angles to look at on this one. One of them includes the transportation of things like fiberglass insulation. That's going to take up a lot more room on a truck and require more loads and fuel burned, tires, brakes, and so forth.
@@ProleDaddy so it's about the same cost as a couple of meat burgers ay
@@WhiteWolfos Wat?
This will NOT kill him! He is still alive just saw him in person today :-)
Plot twist.......you saw him today at his funeral :(
I would like to know what product this is?.
Poliurethane
You sprayed the whole ceiling don't you have to let it breath so the shingles won't buckle over time?
I don’t have shingles
@@shpoon8184 what if you do is this still the way you spray a ceiling
Ridge vents?