Truly inspirational you guys are amazing to be doing this whole build yourselves 👍 there are a lot of channels building new boats right now but you guys are hardcore doing everything yourselves. I know this is a niche channel but you deserve to have way more subscribers ❤
I love that you guys have shaft drive engines, my install is almost identical, and we can both look forward to much less maintenance into our futures. Great job Matt and Jess. Rossco
I am happy to see you use shaft drive, much easier to maintain. You can even pull the shaft well you are in the water if needed. I have watched from the beginning and your skills and decisions making have definitely improved. Looking forward to the next video. Stay safe. ⛵😺
Matt answered my question right at the very end. I was wondering why we weren’t glassing that prop tube into the skeg. But I guess he will. Looking great !
@@MJSailing Is there any consideration for offsetting prop walk by putting the shaft slightly off center to the rudder which also allows you to extract the prop shat if necessary without dropping the rudder?
No issue on this boat if prop/rudder clearance... The rudders kick aft and retract for impact protection and to go in shallow water, so that also works for shaft removal.
your attention to detail is incredible. I have been following you folks for several years and was a bit disappointed when you announced you were going to take a break from sailing to build a catamaran. I have been following several wood boat builds and didn't have any interest in a fiberglass build. But I haven't missed an episode during and each week you guys amaze me. Great job!
Aww, thank you so much, that makes us so happy! I see the builds of these wooden boats and become mesmerized by the work they do, and then think "If only we could make fiberglassing that interesting", haha.
I liked Matt's expression and your voices when the angle after boring the hole was 7.5 degrees! I enjoyed your music selection while Matt was cutting his template, building and feathering, and attaching the skeg. Hell, it wasn't just there, because I liked all your music selections. Nice job.
I have like many others watched all your vids on you tube …. I am especially enjoying this series…. I wish I was your side of the pond would love to be the dogs body and love to learn about “glassing together” it’s a wicked adventure your on …. I do wish there was more content
Well THAT was cool! As much as I still enjoy watching you guys do the fairing, it's *very* cool to watch you build something wholly new like this. It's also really fun to watch how far you've come with glassing. You're pros now. Quite a difference when you just pour on the resin unlike your more hesitant moves at the beginning! Also, you can track how long you've been doing this with your rollers that are a whole new shape and thickness from the years of cured resin on them! 😆
You two never fail to amaze me with your expertise, specific knowledge, and just all encompassing energy and stick-to-it-Geter done attitudes! Love you both. Old retired Marine Claude.
Hi Guys, your amazing, how do keep motivated ? I think building one catarmaran in a lifetime will be enough to keep you happy. Besides, you should be to busy sailing around the world to ever want to do this again. Cheers, have a nice day.
Funnily enough, our kitty Georgie helps keep us motivated. We feel so bad that she has to live on our little sport fisher while we're building, we want her to have something nice and big to roam around in. 😻
@@MJSailing that's great. I watched a guy do a cat boat and the first one he got it bang on. Second one, not so good. He wouldn't believe his eye and was rushing to get it done. It was so far out he had to glue the plug back in and start over. In your defense this guy was an idiot and prone to doing dumb shit 😂 Matt is good. Have a great day.
Really nice video! About prop-clearence. Seems a lot of electric converters have problem with sound from the prop when using too little (ICE-engine level) clearence so make sure you talk to someone well versed in electric drive trains about that.
You may have already cut the other stern tube but if not you can hire diamond hole cutters of various diameters, which can cut deeper holes. They're principally designed to cut through concrete so the fibre glass should be a breeze. To my recollection there about 9" long.
Matt, The close proximity of deadwood directly in front of passing prop's blade at 12 oclock position will shroud blade in that area, or restrict water flow from being smooth. If you make a curved half moon or crescent in aft edge (with slight aft tilt 7.5 degrees) it will allow better flow, and possibly prevent a minor thumping effect like helicopters make when blade passes over tail section or wings in case of V-22 Osprey (why it sounds so unique...) The thumbnail shows a look in Jess's eye that makes me think you were commenting about her holding the shaft... am I right ?
Nice work on getting the prop-shaft tube holes cut in and the support wedges installed. Also, thank you for explaining the materials you use for each part as it really helps newbies, like me, understand what your doing and why.
Is the wing if that's the proper terminology going to extend below the prop shaft to protect the lower edge of the propeller? I was impressed by how the inside corners of the fiberglass turned out as I know it doesn't like corners would've thought like a long triangle on either side to the hull would gain more strength in the long run. Please excuse me if these are armature observations I'm no expert just curious.
All Privilege Catamarans are shaft drive and I think HH are as well. Shaft drive is more reliable, you don’t have your running gear hanging in the water. Sail drives are predominantly on catamarans built for the charter industry. Sail drive are also higher maintenance, requiring haul-out more often.
The older Lagoons and Leopards were shaft drive too. But as you can see, it is a much more time consuming job than just cutting a hole for a sail drive - which also have the engine bed already attached. We've probably spent close to 200 hours to get to this point.
We have had episodes that get closer to 25 minutes, it's just that we're filming in real time at the moment and don't have the content to make them longer right now.
That is a nice set up. You did a nice job getting it in. You mentioned cutting the tube to length. How long is the cutlass bearing? Will a packing gland fit directly to the tube?
Just out of curiosity I searched for an extra deep hole saw in the size you needed. I found some that are 3.75 inches deep, but they are $75 each. Too much for a one time use.
It's a pretty fragile egg shell of a hull. Very stiff due to the core and glass used, but doesn't have the toughness I'd want for high lats. But the funny thing when we were sailing the Arctic Circle was that only British and American were metal boats. All the locals were sailing standard production boats without issue.
Angle will stay the same but it certainly will change the centerline of the shaft. Hope you took that into consideration, or maybe it doesn't matter???
When we were in the planning stage, yes, the intention was to use outboards. But after spending an afternoon on a Seawind that had them, we realized they're only good for coastal cruising. Then the plan switched to diesel, but after a visit to the Max Cruise factory last summer, they wanted to help us out with electric propulsion. So now we'll be electric/diesel on port, and electric on starboard.
Interesting way of setting up the shaft. why not just add a strut coming down from the hull and a cutlass bearing rather than putting in the whole skeg? I know Dazcat does something like that but I hear that it slows their tacking down as well?
I thought of doing a normal strut - we have the largest supplier of bronze struts in North American on the same island as us - but never followed up with the designer as to why they planned it this way. Once we switched to hybrid that required feathering props, the thought of adding an additional skeg below the shaft to protect the blades ruled out the bronze strut.
@@MJSailing that makes sense, I just shuddered at watching you sand off all that gorgeous gelcoat only to have to bog and fair it all back in.....My current boat-- a 35' pescott has a single 20hp steerable outboard which is actually OK... being able to steer it makes a huge difference to maneuverability
I would assume that it would have been more efficient to have a completely horizontal drive shaft. I was surprised to see you lining it up about 7 degrees to the horizontal. So when you are motoring you will be pushing the water down 7 degrees to the horizontal, instead of pushing the water backwards. And when you're sailing without the motor I assume it'll have very little difference. (Maybe) That's just all assumptions, after i had a long day walking 17km in 34 degree heat (which on American temperature scales is very hot). I don't know, maybe, maybe not. I'm just wondering why the driveshaft is not completely horizontal?
Matt please do yourself a big favor, always wear knee pads, fourty years from now you'll appreciate it. Bad knees are pure "hell". Thanks for great video's.
Man it still look fragile better off with at least two cross bracing bracket, why image if it touch any coral it could easily break no matter how many layer of fiber
Truly inspirational you guys are amazing to be doing this whole build yourselves 👍 there are a lot of channels building new boats right now but you guys are hardcore doing everything yourselves. I know this is a niche channel but you deserve to have way more subscribers ❤
Awwww, thank you so much for the kind words, that really means a lot to us. 🥰
Wow, watching this video makes me so grateful I have an outboard motor!
Matt, your are THE Rennaissance Man of boat building. Your skills amaze me. That being said, Jess is no slouch either, very impressive lady.
I love that you guys have shaft drive engines, my install is almost identical, and we can both look forward to much less maintenance into our futures. Great job Matt and Jess. Rossco
For us - and I'm sure you too - the biggest reason was to get weight forward and not having the engine so far aft like most newer cats.
That’s going to be one bullet proof propshaft!
I am happy to see you use shaft drive, much easier to maintain. You can even pull the shaft well you are in the water if needed. I have watched from the beginning and your skills and decisions making have definitely improved. Looking forward to the next video. Stay safe. ⛵😺
I just drilled a hole through my hull too, but it was an accident that I now have to patch. Such is life.
Nice cut Matt, perfect 7.5 with a excellent glass job.
Matt answered my question right at the very end. I was wondering why we weren’t glassing that prop tube into the skeg. But I guess he will. Looking great !
Yup, it will go on next! We're waiting for new vinyl ester resin to arrive, but hopefully we'll get that part done this week.
@@MJSailing Is there any consideration for offsetting prop walk by putting the shaft slightly off center to the rudder which also allows you to extract the prop shat if necessary without dropping the rudder?
No issue on this boat if prop/rudder clearance... The rudders kick aft and retract for impact protection and to go in shallow water, so that also works for shaft removal.
your attention to detail is incredible. I have been following you folks for several years and was a bit disappointed when you announced you were going to take a break from sailing to build a catamaran. I have been following several wood boat builds and didn't have any interest in a fiberglass build. But I haven't missed an episode during and each week you guys amaze me. Great job!
Aww, thank you so much, that makes us so happy! I see the builds of these wooden boats and become mesmerized by the work they do, and then think "If only we could make fiberglassing that interesting", haha.
Hey Matt you use those foam supports to drill a long hole for under water lights mounts now so much easier.
I liked Matt's expression and your voices when the angle after boring the hole was 7.5 degrees!
I enjoyed your music selection while Matt was cutting his template, building and feathering, and attaching the skeg. Hell, it wasn't just there, because I liked all your music selections. Nice job.
I too particularly noticed the music in this episode. Also, when you adjust the volume. Well done.
Team work makes the dream work. Stay Safe & Fair Winds!!
………….and then there’s the other hull to do too! Keep on going guys. You’re inspirational.
I have so much admiration for your patience and keep goingness
LOVE IT...thank you for bringing this to us........... good time for a quick walk round on how the projects going.......
Thank you so much for joining us this week!
I have like many others watched all your vids on you tube …. I am especially enjoying this series…. I wish I was your side of the pond would love to be the dogs body and love to learn about “glassing together” it’s a wicked adventure your on …. I do wish there was more content
Well THAT was cool! As much as I still enjoy watching you guys do the fairing, it's *very* cool to watch you build something wholly new like this. It's also really fun to watch how far you've come with glassing. You're pros now. Quite a difference when you just pour on the resin unlike your more hesitant moves at the beginning! Also, you can track how long you've been doing this with your rollers that are a whole new shape and thickness from the years of cured resin on them! 😆
Oh, but those are newer rollers :). The patina is only from the past few months.
@@MJSailing WOW!
Tried Total Boat because of your channel!! Love the products so far!!!
We're so excited to hear that!! 😍👍
👍you always have the best music in your videos
Thank you so much! 🥰
Enjoyed the sped up parts as we get to see more work done in a faster time! We know it takes you longer!
Glassing that was about an hour long job - but I agree, more time lapses! 😀
Beautiful work!
I love to see the progress. Great video with cool music!
Thank you so much for watching!
You two never fail to amaze me with your expertise, specific knowledge, and just all encompassing energy and stick-to-it-Geter done attitudes! Love you both. Old retired Marine Claude.
Thank you so much for the kind words Claude!
Love the fin work. So beautiful.
Thank you so much!
I found this very interesting great job!!!
Thank you for watching!
One down, one to go..almost splash time..thanks M&J
Nice job you two. I enjoyed this one more than usual.
Great work. Very inspiring.
great work guys keep up the progress can't wait to see her float.
I'm impressed by the accuracy you achieved. I will regard it as beginner's luck unless you can do it again!
You'll have to stay tuned next week to see how port side is coming along, haha.
Great teamwork! Hard to wrap without a teammate and the heat doesn't make it any easier. It came out really well!
I don't know how Matt would have been able to do that on his own, and I was very happy to be pulled away from fairing for an hour, haha.
Hi Guys, your amazing, how do keep motivated ? I think building one catarmaran in a lifetime will be enough to keep you happy. Besides, you should be to busy sailing around the world to ever want to do this again. Cheers, have a nice day.
Funnily enough, our kitty Georgie helps keep us motivated. We feel so bad that she has to live on our little sport fisher while we're building, we want her to have something nice and big to roam around in. 😻
Great start installing the the tube and the structure that holds it.
So impressed with your learned skill set and work ethic!!
Nicely done. Hope the other side goes as well.
It is so far! And our friend Colby is supposed to lend us a specific laser that will let us get the angle absolutely perfect. 😍
@@MJSailing that's great. I watched a guy do a cat boat and the first one he got it bang on. Second one, not so good. He wouldn't believe his eye and was rushing to get it done. It was so far out he had to glue the plug back in and start over. In your defense this guy was an idiot and prone to doing dumb shit 😂 Matt is good. Have a great day.
Great Video !
Brilliant!
Great tunes
Good work guys. Looks great! Jess loved the music choice on this video.
Nice work. Exciting to move on from sanding bulkheads.
Really nice video!
About prop-clearence. Seems a lot of electric converters have problem with sound from the prop when using too little (ICE-engine level) clearence so make sure you talk to someone well versed in electric drive trains about that.
Looks good guys good great job !!!
Thank you so much!
Its coming along great guys .
You may have already cut the other stern tube but if not you can hire diamond hole cutters of various diameters, which can cut deeper holes. They're principally designed to cut through concrete so the fibre glass should be a breeze. To my recollection there about 9" long.
It’s good to see you both working together on a single task 😃 🍻🥂
Nice layup you guys, looks really nice!
I think Matt needs to do karaoke with his respirator on!!!😂
I like that idea!!
Matt, The close proximity of deadwood directly in front of passing prop's blade at 12 oclock position will shroud blade in that area, or restrict water flow from being smooth. If you make a curved half moon or crescent in aft edge (with slight aft tilt 7.5 degrees) it will allow better flow, and possibly prevent a minor thumping effect like helicopters make when blade passes over tail section or wings in case of V-22 Osprey (why it sounds so unique...) The thumbnail shows a look in Jess's eye that makes me think you were commenting about her holding the shaft... am I right ?
Nice work on getting the prop-shaft tube holes cut in and the support wedges installed. Also, thank you for explaining the materials you use for each part as it really helps newbies, like me, understand what your doing and why.
Wow nice work! Definitely a measure more than twice and cut once type of job. How’s the sanding and painting coming on the inside?
Update on that next week! It's still slowly coming along while Matt does exterior projects.
Is the wing if that's the proper terminology going to extend below the prop shaft to protect the lower edge of the propeller? I was impressed by how the inside corners of the fiberglass turned out as I know it doesn't like corners would've thought like a long triangle on either side to the hull would gain more strength in the long run. Please excuse me if these are armature observations I'm no expert just curious.
Have never seen a catamaran without saildrives before--Very interesting !!!
All Privilege Catamarans are shaft drive and I think HH are as well. Shaft drive is more reliable, you don’t have your running gear hanging in the water. Sail drives are predominantly on catamarans built for the charter industry. Sail drive are also higher maintenance, requiring haul-out more often.
The older Lagoons and Leopards were shaft drive too. But as you can see, it is a much more time consuming job than just cutting a hole for a sail drive - which also have the engine bed already attached. We've probably spent close to 200 hours to get to this point.
@@MJSailing I learn something every time I watch MJ sailing-thanks !!
I so look forward to your episodes. I'm betting on you finishing before Duracell. lol
We're hoping for a splash date of next fall!
@@MJSailing Right in hurricane season 🙂 Sail south or north for shake down?
@@vernebrown4441 something tells me they will be heading towards warmer weather 😆
@@buddyyaussy5772 I think it will depend on time of year and storm tracks. i wish safe travels and falling seas wherever they go.
Are you going to offset the rudder slightly from centreline so you can pull your shaft without having to remove the rudder?
Keep up the great work have you ever considered longer episodes
We have had episodes that get closer to 25 minutes, it's just that we're filming in real time at the moment and don't have the content to make them longer right now.
@MJSailing that's awesome your that you're that current on the videos
@@jasongriffin7087 Extremely current, haha. Usually doing some filming, editing, and then uploading the same day.
Needed a forsner bit
I thought of that, but was concerned it would be a wrist breaker to try using one that size.
Have you got a multi tool with a suitable tool accessory?
That is a nice set up. You did a nice job getting it in. You mentioned cutting the tube to length. How long is the cutlass bearing? Will a packing gland fit directly to the tube?
How are you going to replace the drive shaft padding that's inside the white pipe once it wares out?
Cut and compress the cutlass bearing. It's how we did it even with a normal strut if the shaft was already removed and we didn't have a puller
Just out of curiosity I searched for an extra deep hole saw in the size you needed. I found some that are 3.75 inches deep, but they are $75 each. Too much for a one time use.
With the hardness of the hull you have created. Do you think you could do some high latitude sailing?
It's a pretty fragile egg shell of a hull. Very stiff due to the core and glass used, but doesn't have the toughness I'd want for high lats. But the funny thing when we were sailing the Arctic Circle was that only British and American were metal boats. All the locals were sailing standard production boats without issue.
if you build up fiberglass on the bottom of support won't that change the angle of shaft tube, just a thought
Angle will stay the same but it certainly will change the centerline of the shaft. Hope you took that into consideration, or maybe it doesn't matter???
They make deeper hole saws 🪚
Did you send back that fish?
Is it my imagination or way back when this build started were you planning to use outboards?
When we were in the planning stage, yes, the intention was to use outboards. But after spending an afternoon on a Seawind that had them, we realized they're only good for coastal cruising. Then the plan switched to diesel, but after a visit to the Max Cruise factory last summer, they wanted to help us out with electric propulsion. So now we'll be electric/diesel on port, and electric on starboard.
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Hello
Crikey First.
way better than sail drives put the engines in and go... finish the rest under way. beef up where the shafts go through the hull.
I like that the stern tube bisects the bulkhead adding rapidity to the whole setup. It should be very strong.
hi Matt just a question do you have room for a rudder on the short piece you have left on the hull 🙂
The rudders are stern mounted within cassettes to allow them to kick-up if hit or when going into shallow water.
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Interesting way of setting up the shaft. why not just add a strut coming down from the hull and a cutlass bearing rather than putting in the whole skeg? I know Dazcat does something like that but I hear that it slows their tacking down as well?
I thought of doing a normal strut - we have the largest supplier of bronze struts in North American on the same island as us - but never followed up with the designer as to why they planned it this way. Once we switched to hybrid that required feathering props, the thought of adding an additional skeg below the shaft to protect the blades ruled out the bronze strut.
@@MJSailing that makes sense, I just shuddered at watching you sand off all that gorgeous gelcoat only to have to bog and fair it all back in.....My current boat-- a 35' pescott has a single 20hp steerable outboard which is actually OK... being able to steer it makes a huge difference to maneuverability
Nice light catamaran 👍. This will just need fairing. No gelcoat being added to underwater surface since we are barrier coating the bottom.
That’s a though Cat.
That's our hope! 😀💪
I found a Vetus water pump for my westerbeke at 1/3 the price o the westerbeke one. Sold me on this company
Did you offset your propshaft tube so the shaft will miss your rudders if/when you take out your shaft?
Duh! Kick up rudders.
Question: why not glass the stern tube at the same time?
I think the designer wanted glass under the tube for it to rest in. It's what was called for in the plans.
Super les vidéos, mais pour moi francophone c est plus facile de vous suivre à les sous titres en français, merci😘
Il suffit d'attendre un peu et se reconnecter plus tard, et surprise, les sous-titres apparaissent !
it sounded so simple, buy the parts and put them togethor.
You're doing two of those, right?
Yup! One on each side. Just needed to focus on one for the video this week. 😀
I would assume that it would have been more efficient to have a completely horizontal drive shaft. I was surprised to see you lining it up about 7 degrees to the horizontal.
So when you are motoring you will be pushing the water down 7 degrees to the horizontal, instead of pushing the water backwards.
And when you're sailing without the motor I assume it'll have very little difference. (Maybe)
That's just all assumptions, after i had a long day walking 17km in 34 degree heat (which on American temperature scales is very hot). I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
I'm just wondering why the driveshaft is not completely horizontal?
You can't put the engine down at the level to allow a straight shaft and the prop to clear the hull. It requires an angle.
ooooooh hardware
Only one engine ?
Matt please do yourself a big favor, always wear knee pads, fourty years from now you'll appreciate it. Bad knees are pure "hell". Thanks for great video's.
For sure I finish concrete for about 15 years without them now I'm definitely suffering the repercussions not good
I confirm too
you guys are nut.
I dont have that kind of trust to drill holes in a perfectly fine boat...lolus.......
Gotta get the stern tube in there somehow, lol
Man it still look fragile better off with at least two cross bracing bracket, why image if it touch any coral it could easily break no matter how many layer of fiber
Love yours vlogs hate the music. Guess i'am getting old😢😅
Basically?!?!? Basically?!?!?
You need to hire some help or ask for volunteers....
Why's that?
love your channel but have to play the videos on mute. The music is truly terrible.
Guess you can't please everyone all the time. I've also been getting lots of comments saying I have the best music, lol.
Great info and production but the music is god awfull
Please don't let Matt sing Madonna tunes anymore! For the love of God don't! 🤣
I thought it was beautiful. 😍🤣