Portraying Black Issues In Media - The Proud Family vs. Moon Girl
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2023
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The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder is an American animated television series created by Bruce W. Smith and Ralph Farquhar which premiered on Disney+ on February 23, 2022. It is a revival and soft reboot of The Proud Family, which originally aired on Disney Channel from 2001 to 2005.
In April 2022, Disney+ confirmed that the show's second season was in production, which premiered on Disney+ on February 1, 2023. The series has been received positively in critic reviews. The series made its linear premiere on January 7, 2023 on Disney Channel, and on Disney XD on January 8, 2023.
The series follows Penny Proud, a 14-year-old girl and her family, as they navigate their lives in the 2020s. Penny, and her parents Trudy and Oscar, face a myriad of challenges. Suga Mama returns, as does Michael, Dijonay, Zoey, and LaCienega. Two new kids, Maya and KG, raised by two dads, try to adapt to life in Smithville.
Famous TV Star Noah Barker is transferring to Penny’s school, and finds Zoey, and they start to fall in love, but for a certain reason…. because Zoey’s caucasian.
All the girls at school are excited to hear that Odder Things star Noah Barker (Andre Jamal Kinney) is transferring to their school. Upon his arrival, he immediately asks out Zoey, much to everyone's confusion. Maya informs everyone that he only dates white girls. When they tell Zoey this, she disbelieves them, accuses them of being jealous, and is kicked out of their Disney Princess party. Meanwhile, Suga Mama reunites with her friend Celia (Jane Lynch) and heads out to Wiz Vegas. Celia is overly lucky and Suga Mama becomes Jealous and accuses her of stealing Papi from her. Zoey crashes the Disney party and Penny tries to have everyone express their feelings, but this causes a bigger rift between them. Penny and Suga Mama talk with Suga Mama making up with Celia. At the Valentine's Day dance, Zoey tells the girls that she broke up with Noah about his preferences and they apologize for ostracizing her. Myron asks Zoey to dance, admitting that he is attracted to her brain rather than her skin color and she accepts.
Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, or simply Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, is an American animated television series based on the characters of the same name by Marvel Comics. The series is produced by Disney Television Animation, Marvel Animation and Cinema Gypsy Productions, with animation services being provided by Flying Bark Productions. It premiered on Disney Channel on February 10, 2023, and will be released on Disney+ five days later.
After 13-year-old super-genius Lunella accidentally brings ten-ton red, horned, T-Rex, Devil Dinosaur into present-day New York City via a time vortex, the duo works together to protect the city's Lower East Side from danger.
This is my Black History Month video unless by some miracle, I actually make my video on the Beyonder episode of Moon Girl in the next week. Maybe if this video gets a lot of shares, views and likes.
Dude, I worked on Louder and Prouder, and I'll tell you this a lot of us animators felt the same way about the way they treated Zoey. without the one throw away line, the whole episode is just them being jerks. Granted they are consistently jerks to Penny as well.
Im so glad do many black people spoke up against that episode of louder and prouder. There's a line and they clearly crossed it.
I think Moon Girl did a wonderful job, however, Proud Family has always had bad writing when it comes to women and the friend group as a whole. And this one wasn’t written well at all especially since Dijonay & Penny already have partners.
That whole "Has any other boy EVER ask you out to a dance?" punched me right in the gut straight back to high school. You never really get over being told you're too ugly for anyone to like.
The topic of racial preference deals with issues of both misogyny and fetishization and they didn't cover either of those, they basically said "No one is allowed to love you because you're white and ugly"
I'm frankly convinced the writer of proud family have never had none toxic friends
I never understand why everyone was ganging up Zoey for? Hardly any justification.
Yeah, I didn’t like that Proud Family episode at all. They were clearly hating on Zoey and I don’t understand why she apologized. Just another example of them being bad friends.
With the Proud Family episode, it handled Colorism poorly. For me, if I could rewrite it, I would have had him ask Zo out. In the episode, the girls are happy for Zo because she isn't the traditional beautiful girl and the are just hyping her up. Later in the episode, Dejoney overhears Noah having a conversation and he says that he only likes Zoey because she is white. She's struggling on how to go about it and tell her friend that her mans a jerk. Zoey and Noah have a cute little date and Zo is just really happy, gushing to her friends about it and even wanting to plan a date with them and their boyfriends together. Dejoney flips out and spills the tea. Zo and Dejoney get into a heated argument and Penny is struggling to find a way to fix this. She talks with her mom about it and she gives her some advice. Zo confronts Noah about why he asked her out, because she is scared that Dejoney's words are true (in the argument, Dejoney would shit talk her looks and even say something like, "He only likes you cause you Becky with the good hair" or something along those lines) and Noah does admit that yeah, her being white is a HUGE reason for him asking her out. She dumps him and is upset, crying at a park and Suga Mama sees her. Gives her some words of wisdom because that child is her grandbaby's best friend. She'll give her that tough love because that's just how Suga Mama is. Zoey ends up going to Dejoney and is like, "You're right" and Dejoney is like, "sorry" because it sucks seeing your friend getting their hopes up like that. And in the end of the episode, the friend group along with their boyfriends go to the dance and just having a good time together because even if shit hits the fan, they genuinely have each other's backs.
Right up until the "reveal" I was convinced Noah was just into oddball nerd girls and that this was supposed to teach about non-conventional attractiveness. Another swing and a miss from the new Proud Family
Tbh "revamping" the Proud Family was one of the worst decisions Disney has made. 💀 It's literally just "watch Penny's shitty friend group tear each other apart for 20 minutes".
One of the big problems with the Proud Family episode is that you know the characters wouldn't have said a single thing if Noah had picked anyone else. The second he picked Zoey, they looked for any reason to discredit the choice and boost their own egos. Except the story never calls them out for it. You know that if LaCienega had been picked, Maya and them wouldn't have been up in arms that Noah only likes latinas. And you know--YOU KNOW--Zoey wouldn't have been saying a thing about "staying with your own kind" if Noah picked Penny or Maya. The show can tackle a lot of interesting diverse or sensitive topics, but the characters they have to tell these stories are so mean spirited and toxic, it poisons the waters to the point the audience doesn't see the topic, they see these terrible people being terrible.
Unrelated note but can we talk about how Michael dresses up as Pocahontas to “pay tribute to Powhatan heritage” which is like 🤦🏽♀️ I’m not Native American but from what I’ve heard from them and of people from the Powhatan tribe is that don’t like the Disney character or movie Pocahontas which rewrote the story of a kidnapped child bride. Also the production behind it is also crazy with character designers saying a native women are not pretty and using other races to model Pocahontas on
I just don't understand why they would make the "bad guy" Zoey when she was pretty much the victim of the episode. Imagine how hurtful it is to never have anyone ask you out or like and you feel super ugly and then the first guy that asks you out you find out doesn't even like you but just did because of your skin color. Not only that but your friends confirm your worst insecurities and basically call you too ugly to date to your face (I was that kid in middle school because I had a lot of acne and frizzy hair). Like she was the victim of the episode and she shouldn't have apologized.
The Proud Family episode got colorism and preference mixed up. From what I heard, not once did any of the girls get disparage for their looks. They just heard that this boy liked white girls and went insane on Zoey. They did horrible in my opinion.
I just had a big frown on my face when I was watching louder and prouder, and there was an episode where they needed a debate team member because zoey lost her voice, and penny kept only asking Asians characters to join. And when one called a racist she responded by saying “black people can’t be racist.” And Mya said “I agree, because racism is prejudice and power.” Like how are people this ignorant
I definitely took note of how Dijonay and penny cast aside their boyfriends for the lighter skin boy and how lacienega and penny were particularly shocked and hurt when they weren’t the preference for once
The best proof of colorism not being the reason Zoey was asked out (at least if the writers weren't idiots) is that there's other white girls in school who are more conventionally attractive, including the blond Noah ended up going with, who he saw before seeing Zoey.
see moon girl is a pretty classic superhero cartoon where it follows the classic superhero structure: