@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures we appreciate everything you do Joe!!! As a new rider I’ve found you .. Greg / Robert / Ryan f9 and Mc rider to be my favorite channels…. Thanks to you and motojitsu I feel confident for tomorrow’s basic rider course!!! God bless you Joe
great review my friend... i HAD "sena" & got ride of it ... (i got tired of being told how to drive a bike & getting yelled at... lmao) so i just stay with the bike speakers so i can just turn them up... lol
Here’s what I think: yes they are a bit pricy, but nowadays what isn’t. Like you said, it’s simple, easy to use, and lets you hear tunes. Great review!!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures I appreciate your response. With all of the wind noise created by my Shoei rf1400 helmet, earplugs are mandatory. You say that the syphon volume levels are "the same" as the Cardo, that is not going to cut it. I need something three or four times louder than the Cardo.
Might want to look into some earplugs that don’t cut as much noise. It’s going to be tough to find a headset that’s much louder. Also another thing I’ve noticed is to make sure you have proper placement of your speakers. Even the slightest adjustment can make a HUGE difference in the volume. I know some helmets already have the cutouts, but sometimes the position isn’t optimal.
Appreciate this review. I just got a Cardo and it’s fantastic. A friend got the Syphon and is returning it. I don’t get what value you get out of this for the price, unless you really only want music.
I've had the Cardo Freedom rig with the JBL speakers for 2 years and I've been very happy with it. I think people expect too much from these systems. You shouldn't expect it to sound like headphones in your quiet living room would. I get very decent sound plus the ability to communicate with others or take calls. Honestly, when I'm on my bike, it's either music or the road. I don't take calls bc I want to be left alone. The Cardo speakers have been quite nice in my experience. Never tried Sena so I can't comment on them.
Since my Cardo was so old, I'm sure they have majorly improved. I received a Sena with my 23 CVO and I must say I'm impressed! Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Mine is the previous generation. Cardo came out with a new upgraded line last year but I suspect the JBL speakers haven't changed. I'd wager specs are the same.
Been using syphon for over a year. I ride everyday. Battery life is excellent, usage is easy with gloves. My complaint has always been the microphone is useless and could use bass. Excellent review.
On the Cardos if you adjust the speakers in the right part of your ears it sounds great with noise cancellation… when I first had them installed it was offset so I fixed it and no issues
My Cardo was pretty old. They have improved so much since then! I currently have a Sena that came with my CVO Road Glide and it's amazing. I agree, proper placement is key! Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback.
I haven’t tried the new one yet, should be getting one soon though. But compared to the Cardo Edge, the edge has better sound in my opinion. Not to mention way more features.
What would you recommend most for someone who really just wants to listen to music when riding? I don’t really care for the microphone/communications side of it, just want something with good volume and sound quality
Take a look at the Cardo Spirit. I believe they are a little over $100 but I can get you 10% off if you use promo code JOEGOE at checkout. You will still get the mic, but you don’t have to install it.
@ who me? My local motorcycle shop talked me into upgrading my Cardo spirit, HD internal speakers to the JBL. I have yet to install them. I'm sure I will be disappointed.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures They’re definitely more comfortable than AirPods, but just could be a little bit louder then you don’t have to run. I’m at full volume.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Yeah I got some hearing issues from my time in the infantry and these JBL speakers from the Packtalk Edge will hurt my ears they get so loud!
I can tell you right now that having the mic in the earpeice is a huge mistake, i dont care what type of mic it is it isn't gonna work behind all the padding of a helmet. You might as well buy a good set of in ear monitors if you just want great sound quality.
@landonlewis5918 Oumurs, from ebay, 90.00 with a good blue tooth, speaker system, not earplugs. motopart-mall. Black. It's fine,not the best, but it's DOT approved, and sounds good
I’ve had cardo packtalk slim/black for 3 years. I don’t think it gets any better for how shallow the drivers are sadly. Pass through earbuds are a must, I recommend earpeace earbuds. Eargasm are good too, they cut down wind noise so you hear music better. It does make the music quieter but overall it’s better.
Thank you! I see your viewpoint. I definitely wouldn't say it's junk though. The microphone is the biggest pain point though. Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
You called and told them you going to review their product so they sent you a product to review....... Can you see a problem with that....... I learned about reviews on utub, the gun channels are sent cherry picked g2c to review, I buy one and it's piece of crap...... I've known 3 others that bought the gun about same time I did, theirs also piece of crap, 2 of them put more money into the gun than the price and they ended up with a decent shooting gun......but they couldn't fix the clacking mag with every step, which starts after a couple days of carrying the gun So here we have professional reviewer GIVEN a cherry picked item to review vs a person that bought the same item off the shelf
Correction: I reached out to them. They DID NOT reach out to me. So no, I was not "cherry picked" to do a review. I gave my honest thoughts about it and found more cons than pros for the product. I am very transparent because I'm not going to ruin my reputation for a free product. I can't speak for other content creators.
The honesty of Joe is what makes his channel awesome … I can’t wait to do a video on joes channel on my channel
Thank you mouseball! I'm not going to put my reputation at risk. If there's something I don't like about a product, I'm gonna say it!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures we appreciate everything you do Joe!!! As a new rider I’ve found you .. Greg / Robert / Ryan f9 and Mc rider to be my favorite channels…. Thanks to you and motojitsu I feel confident for tomorrow’s basic rider course!!! God bless you Joe
@@motoringwithmouseball1219 good luck brother!
Great review Joe. Sounds good in the helmet for content creators
Definitely not a bad headset! Thanks for watching brother!
great review my friend... i HAD "sena" & got ride of it ... (i got tired of being told how to drive a bike & getting yelled at... lmao) so i just stay with the bike speakers so i can just turn them up... lol
Smart man 🤣
So how well did you hear the bike speakers on the expressway or when revved up, not to mention while wearing a helmet?
Here’s what I think: yes they are a bit pricy, but nowadays what isn’t. Like you said, it’s simple, easy to use, and lets you hear tunes. Great review!!
No problem! And yes, EVERYTHING is expensive now. Appreciate you watching!
you can get a cardo for half that though
Your comparison to the Cardo was a little vague. What would you say the comparison is, as far as volume, compared to the Cardo. Is it, 30% louder?
@@joshmoore6165 I would say it’s about the same.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures I appreciate your response. With all of the wind noise created by my Shoei rf1400 helmet, earplugs are mandatory. You say that the syphon volume levels are "the same" as the Cardo, that is not going to cut it. I need something three or four times louder than the Cardo.
Might want to look into some earplugs that don’t cut as much noise. It’s going to be tough to find a headset that’s much louder. Also another thing I’ve noticed is to make sure you have proper placement of your speakers. Even the slightest adjustment can make a HUGE difference in the volume. I know some helmets already have the cutouts, but sometimes the position isn’t optimal.
Hi. when you talk while riding is that the Syphon microphone you are using ?
No. I am using a DJI wireless mic. The microphone in the syphon is pretty much useless while at speed.
Appreciate this review. I just got a Cardo and it’s fantastic. A friend got the Syphon and is returning it. I don’t get what value you get out of this for the price, unless you really only want music.
@@stevenwest5685 No problem! Totally agree with you. You get so much more with the Cardo. Almost a no brainer if you ask me!
I've had the Cardo Freedom rig with the JBL speakers for 2 years and I've been very happy with it. I think people expect too much from these systems. You shouldn't expect it to sound like headphones in your quiet living room would. I get very decent sound plus the ability to communicate with others or take calls. Honestly, when I'm on my bike, it's either music or the road. I don't take calls bc I want to be left alone. The Cardo speakers have been quite nice in my experience. Never tried Sena so I can't comment on them.
Since my Cardo was so old, I'm sure they have majorly improved. I received a Sena with my 23 CVO and I must say I'm impressed! Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Mine is the previous generation. Cardo came out with a new upgraded line last year but I suspect the JBL speakers haven't changed. I'd wager specs are the same.
Been using syphon for over a year. I ride everyday. Battery life is excellent, usage is easy with gloves. My complaint has always been the microphone is useless and could use bass. Excellent review.
@@nikevargas21 thank you very much! It just lacks features and my opinion, the price is too high. Appreciate you watching!
On the Cardos if you adjust the speakers in the right part of your ears it sounds great with noise cancellation… when I first had them installed it was offset so I fixed it and no issues
My Cardo was pretty old. They have improved so much since then! I currently have a Sena that came with my CVO Road Glide and it's amazing. I agree, proper placement is key! Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback.
Was the audio you were using while riding from the Syphon? Or was it from a third party microphone? Great video!
Thank you very much! I was using a third party microphone. The microphone on the Syphon is pretty much useless!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures much appreciated!
@@hayden.Estatesandexhausts no problem
So which one would u choose overall ? The cardos 2x or the syphons?
Cardo hands down.
Awesome. Thanks !🙏🏽
@@oscarcornejo8935 no problem. Actually in the middle of editing a review of the Cardo. I have a promo code for 10% off. Use JOEGOE at checkout
Which cardo do you have ? Have you tried cardos latest flagship ? Pack talk edge ?
I had the Packtalk Bold and just got the edge. It is absolutely amazing!
better sound quality than the syphon?@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
@@doom3crazy in my opinion the sound is a little less flat. Don't get me wrong though, the soundpro sounds pretty good.
How does this compare to the new cardo pro which are larger 45mm speakers.
I haven’t tried the new one yet, should be getting one soon though. But compared to the Cardo Edge, the edge has better sound in my opinion. Not to mention way more features.
What would you recommend most for someone who really just wants to listen to music when riding? I don’t really care for the microphone/communications side of it, just want something with good volume and sound quality
Take a look at the Cardo Spirit. I believe they are a little over $100 but I can get you 10% off if you use promo code JOEGOE at checkout. You will still get the mic, but you don’t have to install it.
I’ll look into them, thanks!!
@lindseyhealey8076 no problem!
Awesome review. Made my mind up
Thank you. Glad I was able to help you make your decision. I appreciate you watching!
What did you decide?
@ who me? My local motorcycle shop talked me into upgrading my Cardo spirit, HD internal speakers to the JBL. I have yet to install them. I'm sure I will be disappointed.
Excellent review. Thanks
No problem at all! I appreciate you watching!
Very good unbias review! Thanks!
@@TheXplorr2 no problem! Appreciate you watching!
Is it better than AirPods?
I would think so. I can’t imagine air pods being comfortable for a long period of time.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
They’re definitely more comfortable than AirPods, but just could be a little bit louder then you don’t have to run. I’m at full volume.
IDK I would rather save a bit more and get a Cardo I like the voice control and the JBL speakers are LOUD as hell
My Cardo is about 6yrs old, so I'm sure the speakers are louder now!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Yeah I got some hearing issues from my time in the infantry and these JBL speakers from the Packtalk Edge will hurt my ears they get so loud!
@@russellmcdonald6033 do you put the speakers inside of the helmets cushion or on the outside next to your ear?
@TheRealMime-_- you put the speakers behind the cushion. Most helmets have a cutout to put the speakers.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures thank you again😅
You've never priced out a real set of headphones or even high end earbuds if you think these are expensive and should come jn a fancy box.
Compared to a Cardo headset, it's expensive for what you get.
That's a true statement. Regardless, I feel like 200 dollars is too much for this luxury.
I can tell you right now that having the mic in the earpeice is a huge mistake, i dont care what type of mic it is it isn't gonna work behind all the padding of a helmet. You might as well buy a good set of in ear monitors if you just want great sound quality.
Totally agree! Appreciate you watching!
Nice review I have Cardo and sena
Just got a Sena with my CVO. I must say, I'm impressed
Too expensive. My whole helmet didn't cost that much. Just saying
For what you end up getting, I totally agree!
Bruh what helmet u running
@landonlewis5918 Oumurs, from ebay, 90.00 with a good blue tooth, speaker system, not earplugs.
motopart-mall. Black. It's fine,not the best, but it's DOT approved, and sounds good
@landonlewis5918 Same thing I was asking. My EXO was nearly $500!
@@Chripiter significantly cheaper than a cardo though, worth it to anyone?
I’ve had cardo packtalk slim/black for 3 years. I don’t think it gets any better for how shallow the drivers are sadly. Pass through earbuds are a must, I recommend earpeace earbuds. Eargasm are good too, they cut down wind noise so you hear music better. It does make the music quieter but overall it’s better.
In my opinion, Cardo is the best hang for your buck. Not to mention the quality is top notch! Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures 100% agree. I haven’t used anything else to compare but everyone says it’s the best and I believe it
super nice set - just someone was drunk and added to many digits to the price ;)
😂 that’s my one main complaint, for what you get the price is a little high. Especially compared to what’s already on the market
$200 bucks for a less than 4 star review. Sounds like junk if the microphone doesn’t even work properly. Great review.
Thank you! I see your viewpoint. I definitely wouldn't say it's junk though. The microphone is the biggest pain point though. Appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
Don't waste your cash. Mine have played up and are badly muffled. has been a massive hassle to try and get any sort of compensation
$200+tax & it only lasts 10 hours, u can get a sena or cardo that will last longer for cheaper
Agreed!
But what's the quality of said two headsets?
Sound quality wise I meant
Sound quality is better on the Cardo in my opinion. Sound quality isn't terrible on the Soundpro, but it's nothing to write home about
Not loud enough
@@pipefitterdirtbikerider3013 it was plenty loud for me
You called and told them you going to review their product so they sent you a product to review.......
Can you see a problem with that.......
I learned about reviews on utub, the gun channels are sent cherry picked g2c to review, I buy one and it's piece of crap...... I've known 3 others that bought the gun about same time I did, theirs also piece of crap, 2 of them put more money into the gun than the price and they ended up with a decent shooting gun......but they couldn't fix the clacking mag with every step, which starts after a couple days of carrying the gun
So here we have professional reviewer GIVEN a cherry picked item to review vs a person that bought the same item off the shelf
Correction: I reached out to them. They DID NOT reach out to me. So no, I was not "cherry picked" to do a review. I gave my honest thoughts about it and found more cons than pros for the product. I am very transparent because I'm not going to ruin my reputation for a free product. I can't speak for other content creators.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures read again
He showed the flaws
expensive junk
I wouldn’t say it’s completely junk, but it’s definitely expensive for what you’re getting!