Budget Helmet Setup
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Setting up a ballistic helmet can be a daunting task. Setting them up incorrectly can cost you money, time, and comfort. If you have any questions about how you should setup a ballistic helmet please comment. We are happy to help. If you are a subscriber please contribute with your experiences on ballistic helmets and/or bump helmets as well.
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ArmorSource AS200 is American made, high cut, Wilcox shroud, boa retention, and is $500. ArmorSource used to make team Wendy’s helmets for them, they’re super legit helmets for anyone on a budget.
I’ll check them out.
Good to know, I’ve been looking at an AS200 mid-cut from them
I got a pgd helmet not bad for weekend warrior shit
Thoughts about HHV? they have a $500-ish helmet. BTW I have ZERO experience. Do we just go by price, weight, and padding that is adjustable or is there more to the fitment formula?
@@GaryWoldHHV is decent, their bump is great but for ballistic I would recommend armorsource or galvion at the same price range
Highly recommend upgrading to the 4D pads. It's seriously one of the best upgrades I made to my helmet. I can wear it all night without any fatigue
I second that! Best pads on the market!
The only issue the 4D pads have is they can get hard in cold weather.
Gel pads and cups tend to do that. For the first 5 minutes, it sucks…until your body heat warms them up
What pad set best fits the team wendy ballistic M/L? There is no option for it.
@@Horsemanray some men train harder than others
I love how channels talk about ballistic helmets and nods like your every day citizen can just drop 10 grand
But you can drop 4k. Bump helmet, build your own PVS-14 Monocular, clone mount, clone laser. That will more than get you into the helmet/Night vision game. You can upgrade shit and sell your old parts as you go.
These videos arent meant for the "every day citizen". Less than 1% actually take training serious enough to use these items.
@@adambordeaux4876 Nah dude, most people can't even drop $4k.
Ridiculous that they call this a "budget helmet setup" when you can get a surplus IIIA rated helmet for about 100 bucks, and then a strap-on NVG mount for another 100.
@@OhshitPositive not all at once no. But you do it slowly. Buy individual parts when you can afford them and after a year or two anyone who isn't homeless could afford to build one.
Some adhesive loop tape on the top of your ear pro band will haelp hold them in the helmet using the existing hook tape inside the helmet. I like my ear pro under my helmet as well and this helps a bit!
+1 for the ballistic helmet. Combat is a full contact sport. if you are playing on a two way range you have to protect against ballistic threats. For everyone who says the weight isnt worth the sacrifice... duck down behind cover...now peek out with your rifle...have your buddy look at your tactical profile (what part of you is sticking out?)...seems your head is a large portion of what's actually exposed. Now, as to the "they'll only shoot me in the face" crowd... get down in the prone...repeat having the friend look...suddenly the top of your head is exposed. And just for fun...try to imagine that your two way range also has height...now enemies will take shots from above and to the sides.
Short answer...if you need plates, you need a real helmet.
There's a reason they clung to helmets for most of a century before they had viable torso protection for modern projectiles.
LOL bought by people who've never and will never experience combat.
@JadedJet Hmmm? Perhaps? FWIW I served four tours of combat. And, the way things are going we may see some of that here in the states if we can't find some peaceful solutions soon.
That said, yes there are times when helmets in combat are a hindrance. Better for folks to learn to use them first...and then with some experience...to take them off when advantageous.
For good a "knockoff" Wilcox mount, I recommend the Argus LWNVM (lightweight night vision mount). It's $150 and has solid lock-up, and has a breakaway feature with adjustable tension. I personally find it better than my issued rhino mount. For those wondering, it does work really well with the Noise Fighters AX-14 arm.
A cheap strobe that is rechargeable and I like a lot is from nitecore nu06 or nu05 with IR like $40 bucks and mine has been flawless.
All the blessings, keep going hard!
It's so cute that you two guys could be together in 2023! Hey, it's 2023! "Love is love" am I right?!
In reference to the knock off mounts, if the one you get has good fit and finish, all you have to do for added piece of mind is loctite the applicable screws, maybe add some witness marks if you care to do so.
Good idea
Yeah I mean I’ve had both a Wilcox and knock off G24 mounts and the two knock offs I’ve had have held up better than one of the Wilcox mounts I had lol not saying that’s the norm cause the knockoffs range from 20-30 bucks up to over 100 and I do think that matters as there are levels off knock offs. I understand that doesn’t make sense cause knock off is knock off right? But it’s true
Nice video. Working on setting up my helmet, got a surplus gentex ach for less then $100. Getting it fast cut, throwing on arc rails and ear pro. Eventually gonna run a Pvs14 on it within a year. Also Are the knockoff mounts considered more duty ready then a older rhino surplus mount would be ? Taking my time with my decisions since I don’t have money to blow on a Pvs14 anytime soon
Earlier today I bought the Ops-Core FAST LE High Cut Ballistic Helmet from Arms Unlimited for $780. I was going to get the Hard Head Veteran helmet but even that was $900 for a ballistic helmet. The fast LE is a discontinued helmet that’s why it’s on sale. I wanted FDE but they only have the color black.
THANKS FOR THE INFO. GREAT VID!
You don't always have to spend $500 on just the helmet. I recently bought a surplus ACH for $150 and I am high-cutting it, painting it, and I got some ops-core rails for $75. Ebay can do a lot for you!
Meanwhile, I snagged a FAST carbon Bump from Ops Core when they were discontinuing it.
Yup, Baby Face P has a great video on modernizing an ACH and for not that many bones. I didn't high cut mine. But I did put rails, off brand boa straps, and a NVG mount.
that definitely would the the ballistic efficacy
This is one thing I definitely need guidance on. This is the only thing I’m lacking.
I agree on ballistic. You can mod an ach into a high cut if you wanna go that cheap and still keep good protection (do your research). Bump helmets is for night vision hiking or something along those lines
This is a great video but I'm 64 and not into war games or a situation where I plan on wear a helmet for endless hours. After watching dozens of videos I ended up getting a Guard Dog Fast NIJ 3A Helmet ..Mounted Walker Razors on Peltor Mounts and use digital night vision... None of this would even be considered entry level but it all works in a SHTF situation for around $900 and I can spend money on food supplies, ammo, guns, body armor and a place to bug out to. I also might have dropped a few $K and on a high end thermal mounted to a 6.5 Creedmore : ) ..Priorities!
I got the cheaper than dirt set up rocking an over sized helmet surplus helmet and with NVG on my super cheap bump helmet.
TNVC MOHAWK and 4D helmet pads for win.
Comfort and protection, the keys to success
I must have a square head because it took me forever to get my military helmet to be comfortable I dicked with it so much, but after 21 years I got it and I’m a few months from retiring and I plan to keep it.
Square heads are a real condition.
Lol not going to lie that cicada had me looking around my room for a sec
The holy grail setup IMHO is...
Opscore Shell / rails for compatibility,
4d pads (fucking get them if you don't do maritime ops)
PGD Arch suspension(like the team wendy but better geometry and a larger rear pad for stability.
Source: I live 1-2 days at a time, about 2 or 300 hours a year with it on
4D pads and opscore with the TW boa fit system ☝️👍
I started cutting grass under nods and have realized I need a better set up as I’ll get a headache after a while.
I'm leaning more toward Tacticon Armament cuz they got a video of them shooting their helmet with 556 out of an 18in barrel a few times with no pass through. The other one I'm looking at is from Hard Headed Veterans because I heard they have rifle rated helmets but when I visited their site I couldn't find it so ima try to get a hold of them.
The only concern I have for those knockoff G24 mount is the breakaway function, I'm worried that it might just fall off for no reason. Hence, I went for the knockoff G69 mount instead. It's lighter and more rigid.
Guys thanks, I just placed my order with Own the Night for the Gentex Helmet and Ops-Core Skeleton ARC Rails - ACH.
Happy to help
I’m in Florida and I’m trying to find a place to train and do actual drills, shoot under nods, etc. do you guys know of any areas I can go to train?
I ordered a CVC (Combat Vehicle Crewman) and converted it to a high cut, taking the rails off of an Airsoft helmet
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Thank you.
They got my guys playing with baby toys in that night vision class lol
This video would have been a lot easier to digest. If you were not interrupting the man every 30 seconds. Never the less, I learned alot thanks for this.
I don't even know how to listen to Eric without him constantly being interrupted by Roy
Just get an ARGUS LWNVM. It’s a knockoff of the G24 but it’s a lot lighter and it’s extremely solid and durable.
No wobble whatsoever, super stiff
Who makes those side release buck nvg lanyards?
As a long time Helmet Wearer, I encourage getting a stronger neck to have more accessories.
- Marine
Let me just articulate my nvg.... and im dead. 😂
What do you guys think about Ace Link Armor Special Mission Gen 2 helmets for the concerned citizen?
I actually like the older style looking helmet cause I'm weird and something different lol
Can’t afford nods probably never will but why can’t I just get the Sam fisher straps instead of a helmet ?
Have you guys done videos on the NV focus caps with holes?
No but probably will happen in the future.
potentially stupid question: how do you clean the helmet padding? I can imagine it stinks up and becomes a biohazard at a certain point
It’s velcro. Remove it. Wash it. Doneso.
What was own the nights lead time on this lid? Was it in stock or did it have a long lead time?
It’s was in stock and received it in about a week.
A well-balanced helmet is paramount for comfort and use.
With as long as night vision has been around, you would figure it would be more affordable. But it's definitely not.
Except it is. 2500 is way cheaper than it used to be.
He said affordable not cheaper.
@@donnywilkes6417 it is more affordable. You can get analogue NODs for 2500 or digital for a couple hundred bucks. At some point you have to pay to play with the nice stuff.
I got an old ACH from a military family member. It has the old nvg mount. Where can I send this out to get drilled for the modern mount systems?
You can prob do it yourself. I don't know of anywhere.
I bought a lvl 4 l110 from host helmet they say on their website its nij certified can anyone confirm this?
What's the best way to attach Viking horns?
Epoxy 😂
I figure there is going to be tons of those robbins egg blue helmets just lying around, I can just rattle can one of those...
Opscore everything
Protect your ballistic helmet, improve your cable management and gear retention with an Agilite helmet cover!
If you are going to go with a Chinese g24, go with the Argus ones. They’re about $125 and way better than the $90 ones.
Good to know.
你好，非常好的视频，请问下，夜视仪和翻斗车多重？对于平衡夜视仪，头盔后面用了多少配重？😊
For bump, I’ve been wearing a $70 airsoft helmet for a year, multiple days at a time, and it’s been great. Don’t be stupid and spend 300-500 on a plastic bowl. For $500 it should be ballistic.
Where they get the money?
I watched about as much as I can with all that noise in the background. Brutal.
Bros never been outside
@@wehrwxlf i crap on a toilet but that doesn't mean it's a good place to record a UA-cam video
Homeboy's got a 1x1 lego head
More like 2x2
Anyone got a link to those retention straps?
Parashooter Gear
@@wisemencompany “Parashooter” not “Parachuter” lol thanks!
"Anti bump" unless you don't need the protection then don't get a ballistic.
Rather than spending up to $1k or more on a helmet I figured out how to make my own and just got a dye created to make more. And unlike real ones that deform and struggle to take multiple rounds the one I made stopped 3 stacked 9mm with zero deformation on the back. 40SW doesn’t even come close. 22lr leaves a black mark 😂
Damn to bad if i ever get nods, since i cant get a supressor my eyes are gunna fuckin explode when i shoot ahaha
I can’t believe JTAC ranch is having to close such terrible news
“You need this, you need that”
Why?
Ben what size helmet did you get?
What do y’all think about HHV?
A lot of people talk trash about them because they are/were Chinese made I'm not to sure if they are anymore. As far as how well they perform they stand what they're rated for. I don't have one personally so do with that info what you will but that's what I've gathered.
Get hhv I got a bump from them I love it more than my ops core BASE jump it’s comfortable makes it really feel like it’s urs with the pad system I love it
@@devsgotagunthey are still made in China.
I just bought one.
They seem to run big too because I have like a 7 1/4 hat size which would be medium for me but when I got it was really loose.
I'm not sure if they sent me a large on accident but I don't know if I should order a small from them now.
Do you know if helmets usually run big or if this just bad luck for me??
Love HHV, I have multiple and there are now American made, I've been to the factory in Texas and purchased mine. Super comfortable and light!! I have 4 right now for the fam
Swapped all my noggin guards to HHV , quality across the board and talk to a real person if any issues.
Won't stop a rifle round so why do I need it
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Dumbest comment on the video so far. Congrats
How about a PASGT?
They still work.
I am NOT running ballistic, with what i do if i need ballistic protection shits fucked.
I will not need a ballistic cover. I live on an island in the gulf of Mexico. It gets HOT in Texas not to mention my local area is a maritime area. 30+ miles of beach. I will be in and out of the water. Recon type engagements.
Chineseum wilcox does work I've had mine for about 2 1/2 years
Good to know. Thanks for the feedback.
Argus g24 clones might be better than genuine ones. Everyone I know who has one, says its more snug with less wiggle. Vendors can't keep the damn things in stock either.
@@coltonowens2742pretty sure they've been out of stock since May
@coltonowens2742 can vouch for the argus mount. It has some wiggle at the dovetail mounting point but adding retention bungees gets rid of it
China everything FTW 🙌
So let's get this straight, you are anti bump but recommend a helmet rated for 9mm while going up against 55.6, 7.62x39, 308 🤔 I know nothing about helmets for combat applications. Is this like the chest rig versus plate carrier debate?
The helmet is rated 3A. Not just for 9mm. Helmets protect from a lot more than JUST bullets.
I don't think anyone has really yet come up with a practical solution for rifle protection in helmets. Depending on range, the IIIAs have been known to stop or at least mitigate damage from a 7.62.
I can see a bump helmet if you are night hunting.
Especially if you are hunting bigfoot...those suckers throw rocks!
Is this advice for actual soldiers or LARPers?
1650 minimum oh lawwwwd lol.
Never understood advocating non ballistic helmets for night time shooting. Seems when you would want it the most. Granted many rifle rounds will go through most but better than non
Most of it comes down to price. Bump helmets are significantly cheaper, and allow you to have a platform for things like communications and night vision. They're also not as heavy and you can wear them for longer periods without fatigue. All this doesn't make them better than a ballistic rated one, but they definitely have their uses.
@@adambordeaux4876 yeah my UARM high cut, pads, Wilcox L4, jarm, flir mnvd get quite heavy after not to long
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Much more likely to take a rock, brick, or bottle to the head than a bullet, but I forgot everyone is a high-speed operator who lives in a war zone.
Sorry, but there much more budget options available depending on the persons needs that you guys discussed in the video. C`on, $100 rails ?! (injection molded plastic max $5 in materials). Also realistically a ballistic helmet has such little value for the average civilian. At least when I talk about this I show people there are ways to seriously slash cost
True poor mans setup:
Longfri High cut 3A - $220
NiteCore IR strobe - $27
Rhino II mount- $110
Peltor Earpro ARC mount-$72
Peltor Range Guard-$45
Amazon special counter weight-$8
Amazon Special Helmet cover-$13
Bankline NVG tether- .50¢
Amazon helmet covers and counterweights have IR signature
@@SuperXrayDocmmmm that's good to know
@@SuperXrayDocso do most things. Including most tactical Gucci gear. Unless you're investing almost entirely in US military surplus equipment more than likely something you're wearing is going to be glowing under direct exposure to IR light. Personally I think that's a bit of a over exaggerated concern.
Thank the Chinese for not gouging the average American.
@@SuperXrayDocIf you’re getting IR splashed you’ve already messed up.
Bro pleaee look at the camera. Like your friend.
Why are you looking past the camera?
This makes it very uncomfortable to watch
Hear me out. bump helmets are only good for airsofr, screwing around with NVG's, and cosplay.
Hard head veterans ballistic helmets. 👍🏻👎🏻???
Bump helmet for watching dogs poop at night.
Tacticon armament ftw. Quality American made gear priced for civilians.
Do you actually have one? How you like it?
@@Jordan-ql6tm I was actually lucky enough to get one while the small supply of them lasted. It fits nice as a helmet can I’d imagine. The inside pads have adjustment so you can get the pressure spots to a minimum. All in all for what I paid it’s great. But I don’t believe you should have to go out and buy Gucci gear because operators use the same named stuff. I’m just an everyday joe with decent income lol
@@bass_life2177 well said lol, brand names mean nothing to me anything can break or fail. just want something that'll preform as advertised and hold your kit properly lol.
Compare to devtac
Video is interesting. But the audio is bad as hell.. couldn‘t watch the video ..
the only good knockoff g24 mount brand is Sotac. The rest is junk
Voodoo lv3 helmet for $300
You don’t need a helmet, just don’t get shot.
They look cool 😎 till your shot in the face 😮
Why not name brands great now some people are going to buy shit cuz u won’t say this brand is shit!
99.9% of us will never be in a situation where we could use a helmet.
True. But 99.9% of us will never fire a shot in self defense either.
@@xxfire07by that guys logic he should sell his guns and ditch car and house insurance
Or a vest. Or a gun for that matter. May it ever be so.
@@Jeffplsgo Which of my comp guns should I sell? I run I.D.P.A and U.S.P.S.A. I am also a retired police officer.
I just don't know when most people would even need a helmet.
youre the one saying dont get it since you dont need it. your credentials are irrelevant, nobody cares that you were a cop it makes you more unlikeable @@jhutch1470
You guys are way high on price .I don't have that kind of money I'm low in come. Hey what about army surplus. I need thermal night vision ear protection. .
Now come down to earth. Russia surplus China surplus .???
Talks about threat levels on the helmets but talks nothing about backside deformation. He knows nothing about helmets.
Plenty of videos with a variety of rounds being shot at helmets. This isn’t that video. Calm down sister.
This is some high level larp/ cosplay fantasy shit here . Wow.
You mean preparing for war.
@@sunsetter715 war? Ok like I said fantasy silliness
@@agoge08bro advocates selling all his guns who tf are you 😂😂😂
@@Jeffplsgo just a guy who lives and exists in the real world that actually exists in this real dimension and plane of existence and not a pocket dimension of fantasy scenarios and fantasy weapons and equipment, that's all
Fun fact… you know you can, like, hike and stargaze with this stuff too, right?
Or are you poor coping because you don’t have nods?
I don't think I'll ever invest in a helmet. I like to larp, & I like to do it casually. There's a certain amount of "try hard" that comes along with the look of wearing a helmet; the rest of the gear I'm fine with
You sound like you can’t afford night vision.
We are the militia. Invest in whatever combat multiplier you see fit
People said the same thing about plate carriers until 2-3 years ago. Call it try hard all you want but I wouldn’t talk shit looking as liberal as you do
@@Jeffplsgo LOL
You could always amass a wardrobe of pastel dress uniforms like Hermann Goring!🤣
Here's the problem with being anti bump helmet: A balistic helmet other than holding your nvgs and comms/ear protection is worthless. Why? If a bullet is going to hit your head, its most likely going to enter your face, which is unprotected. Whats another name for a kevlar helmet? Brain bucket. Second, rifles been piercing ballistic helmets easily at distance. Id rather run around with a bump helmet for the same functionality and weight savings. And most people don't die from headwounds. They're dying from shrapnel and multiple bullets to the torso and and thighs. Fun fact: Where did the bump helmet originally come from? Track vehicle CVC helmets to protect the head of the driver and crew in APCs and tanks, not Special Operations.
If only there was something people wore that generally protected them from lethal head wounds and trauma even if it didn't cover their entire face... perhaps it would be a leading reason as to why there weren't so many lethal head shots... if only such a thing existed...
Most ballistic helmets won't stop rifle rounds. They're mostly made to stop shrapnel
@@SuperXrayDoc I see that you didn't read. You just read a few words and went straight to replying.
@@Grimm0351 I wore helmets in the infantry, so you attempt at sarcasm affects me nada. And what threat are you expecting to face? Artillery rounds while on your way to 7eleven? Even so, the helmet isn't saving you, because it doesn't protect you from the concussive blast and shrapnel is more prone to hit your legs and torso. You don't know that, because you've never served other than bug burgers from McDonalds.
@Murderface666
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Here ya go, little buddy.
Caiman helmet all others are inferior in every way