The Many Faces of Luna Vachon (Dark Side of the Ring Review)

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  • @jwnj9716
    @jwnj9716 3 роки тому +39

    When they showed Van Hurd, I was like "Wait a minute...wasn't he in Hell's Kitchen?". I remember the language barrier he had with Jean-Philippe, classic stuff.

    • @juansanchez209
      @juansanchez209 3 роки тому +9

      I love Jean-Philippe, but Van was in the right there. There’s a reason why Gordon didn’t take his side when he yelled at Van and Jean-Philippe

    • @danielmccullagh663
      @danielmccullagh663 3 роки тому +4

      i know but hes from texas

    • @showtimesportsmedia6906
      @showtimesportsmedia6906 3 роки тому +4

      I had to do a double take because I fucking loved van on that season I wanted him to win bad.

    • @Hammerhead547
      @Hammerhead547 3 роки тому +6

      I remember him having a screaming match in the dorms after one service with one of his teammates who was deliberately picking a fight with him that ended with van cutting a straight up heel wrestler promo straight to the other guy's face and then daring him to "bring it" after which the other contestant backed down because he realized that he was getting into a situation that wasn't going to end well for him.

    • @moe6702
      @moe6702 3 роки тому +2

      That's crazy! I had no idea that he was Luna Vachon's son.

  • @Tun-Dar
    @Tun-Dar 3 роки тому +43

    One of the best episodes this season. Luna deserves so be recognized much more than she is. Ahead of her time.

  • @northernking4787
    @northernking4787 3 роки тому +25

    This episode made me realize how great Luna was, I grew up in that era too. Hearing that she never met her grand baby because she felt unworthy broke my heart! 🙏🏾❤️

  • @SairajRKamath
    @SairajRKamath 3 роки тому +19

    Something tells me Gordon Ramsay wouldn't fuck with Van Hurd in any way if Luna was around.

  • @cctitansfan
    @cctitansfan 3 роки тому +43

    Best episode of part 2 of Season 3.Luna really deserves more recognition than she gets

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 3 роки тому +1

      Should have been in the HOF!!!!! Long over due!!!!!!

    • @CyberJawa1986
      @CyberJawa1986 3 роки тому +1

      @@vampirascoffin870 she’s part of the 2019 class under the, not sure what they call it legends or legacy inductees

    • @rockydrago4181
      @rockydrago4181 3 роки тому +1

      She could of had a good fued with Miss Jackie-- both were respected by the men that they worked with. They should of done alot of things differently -- but they didn't. In today's WRESTLING -- she would easily be a top level talent -- both as a manager and in the ring.

  • @samoanjoseph1457
    @samoanjoseph1457 3 роки тому +30

    It's a shame to hear about Luna thinking she was ugly. In fact I distinctly remember finding her very attractive, yet not understanding why I did. There was nobody else like her.

    • @judohunter1
      @judohunter1 3 роки тому +4

      Agreed I always thought she was attractive w a great body too. She was like Sherri Martel, a attractive woman hidden in weird makeup to make her seem “weird and scary”.

  • @bdr113080
    @bdr113080 3 роки тому +35

    The story of Luna walking through the curtain and everyone’s clapping but they’re really clapping for sable makes me sick. It’s Another reason that I am very proud to have given up on WWE 15 years ago. And what’s even more messed up is you have people like Bruce Prichard who actually know the wrestling business and know that Luna should get that spot over sable was probably sitting there clapping like a trained seal. Vince McMahon, Bruce Prichard, and Kevin Dunn have to be the three worst human beings alive still in the wrestling business.

    • @trivo1216
      @trivo1216 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, I have no longer watched WWE because people like Vince running and ruining it.

    • @bdr113080
      @bdr113080 3 роки тому +3

      @@trivo1216 When WCW went away I was watching both but I was always a bigger fan of WCW but then when all the WCW stars and ECW stars came to WWE I thought it should’ve been the best wrestling promotion of all time. It should have been. I never would’ve imagined that Vince would be so petty that he would just use this as an opportunity to act like the worlds biggest Mark and just have his wrestlers just beat every WCW and ECW star repeatedly and pretty much ruin these guys careers. On top of that the overall Quality of the shows and matches and PPV‘s kept getting worse and worse and worse. I actually was sitting in third row at the WWE ECW December to Dismember ppv And that pretty much sealed it for me and I haven’t been a WWE fan ever since. I didn’t want to be one of these wrestling fans that keeps complaining about how bad the product is but at the same time still supporting them week in and week out. I understand why Solomonster still watches because it’s his job to. I still watch pro wrestling but it’s always older stuff from the 80s and 90s and very early 2000’s. Watching today’s fans fight and argue over WWE & AEW is like watching two homeless people fighting over which is the better meal, diarrhea or vomit.

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 3 роки тому +11

      Did Luna deserve "that" spot over Sable, I would say no. They propped up Sable to be a money maker and she did that. Nobody was asking Luna for a Playboy centerfold. At least at that time. And again Solomonster touched on maybe why Luna couldn't be trusted with the belt.
      But if you're going to trust her to make Sable look credible. You should acknowledge that when she does the damn job. That in itself is as disrespectful as you can get. No wrestler can have a great a performance by their self. Whether they have the abilities of Sable or Kurt Angle.

    • @stephenmuir6812
      @stephenmuir6812 3 роки тому +1

      McMahon, Pritchard, Dunn & McDevitt are the Four Arseholes of the Acockalypse

    • @bdr113080
      @bdr113080 3 роки тому +3

      @@TRivera13 All very good points and I guess I should’ve clarified. When I meant spot I meant as in the match they were having and that she should’ve gotten more recognition than Sable did. If Luna wanted to she could’ve made sable look like shit and I just feel the company should have Appreciated Luna for making sable look that good because it’s not like sable was really a wrestler who had a clue of what she was doing out there. I don’t really have an issue with them being proud of stable but to just ignore the person that did all the work is really messed up but it is kind of WWE Standard to just to use people and give people credit that they didn’t deserve.

  • @benespinosa6725
    @benespinosa6725 3 роки тому +23

    This Episode Was very interesting and I had no idea that Luna was Canadian and her Pairing with Gangrel was awesome it Added to Gangrel's Gimmick.

    • @benespinosa6725
      @benespinosa6725 3 роки тому

      @Jo Ka that's very interesting thanks for letting me know.

  • @TheRogueCobra
    @TheRogueCobra 3 роки тому +16

    This one was particularly sad for reasons I can't really place. Just kinda hit me.

  • @LifeAndWrestling
    @LifeAndWrestling 3 роки тому +19

    What gets me angry was how they treated her when she was working with Sable. The story was that before there Women’s championship match, I believe it was at Wrestlemania, Gerald Briscoe said to her if Sable gets hurt in anyway, she was fired on the spot. After the match and people were applauding Sable after her win, Luna was to the side crying and the only one who came to console her was the one and only Owen Hart. Now I could be wrong about he story, I heard it from Gangrel, her husband.

    • @MJ_Weaver
      @MJ_Weaver 3 роки тому +1

      So the story he quoted… thanks for listening

    • @jcaceres516
      @jcaceres516 3 роки тому +1

      Jim Cornette was there and he confirms the story

    • @isitoveryet9525
      @isitoveryet9525 6 місяців тому

      Why do people comment, as if they’re adding something to the story, when in all actuality, you’re just parroting what was already said? Worst part is, you still got some of the information incorrect lol All you had to do was listen to the video, before adding your 2 cents 😂

  • @SubZero_125
    @SubZero_125 3 роки тому +10

    It broke my heart when Luna said all she wanted is to be the women's champion, she should of had a run with the title.

  • @gaipontiff2
    @gaipontiff2 3 роки тому +1

    I interviewed Luna Vachon & Gangrel back in 2000 for local radio. They both were very nice to all of us from our radio station.

  • @CyberJawa1986
    @CyberJawa1986 3 роки тому +5

    Unless I’m mistaken, I could’ve sworn Madusa told the title story and they actually attempted Luna pinning Madusa and the ref wouldn’t count it. I remember hearing that variation years ago.
    I love Luna, deserved so much more than she was ever given.

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 3 роки тому +7

    After watching the episode I went back and watched the season of Hell's Kitchen that Van was on and there's a few moments where he straight up cut heel wrestler promos on other contestants straight to their faces (along with the Metre-d Jean Phillipe with whom he almost came to legit blows with) and you could tell that he could back it all up if he had too.
    The apple didn't fall far from the tree in a good way.

  • @c4662
    @c4662 3 роки тому +20

    I felt bad for Gangrel.
    The guy truly did love her very much.

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah that sucks. I understood why he left. I just don't know if I could've done that with my wife. She had her own problems which thankfully are behind us.

    • @RDSArcade
      @RDSArcade 3 роки тому +3

      Glad to know that you and your wife made it through those rough times, brother. Hoping for many more years of happiness for you both.

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 3 роки тому +2

      @@RDSArcade Thank you, the same for you and yours.

  • @madddoggnogood1491
    @madddoggnogood1491 3 роки тому +37

    This broke my heart.
    I loved luna as a kid. All she wanted was a chance to wrestle. Basically abandoned her child so she could and didn't a fair shot
    And i cant get over how horrible sable was as a person

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 3 роки тому +10

      Not taking up for Sable. But I believe she made no bones about her disdain for actually wrestling. It was the company that bent over backwards to her demands because they saw money in her. The company is to blame as well.

    • @madddoggnogood1491
      @madddoggnogood1491 3 роки тому +4

      @@TRivera13
      Oh definitely

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 3 роки тому +4

      @@madddoggnogood1491 But hearing that story also brought this to mind. For a company that demands you respect everyone and shake hands after the match. The fact that very few people acknowledged what Luna did for Sable is a damn crime. Nobody gets over on their own. Because Luna didn't have an ego, she got shitted on.

  • @Ori0n1975
    @Ori0n1975 3 роки тому +6

    My favorite was her with Bam Bam Bigelow. They fit so good together.

  • @flamethrowerflufsalisbury
    @flamethrowerflufsalisbury 3 роки тому +6

    I liked this episode for several reasons. I grew up watching CWF & remembered everything with her & Kevin Sullivan. They showed Lady Maxxine, who was the first wrestler that I ever met, & I met David Heath earlier this year. I also remember her son from Hell's Kitchen

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv Рік тому +2

    Go figure the two guys who were kind to her when everybody was focused on Sable were Mick Foley and Owen Hart. Truly amazing that not only do you never hear a bad thing said about either of those guys but consistently always hear good things about them in a business where people bad mouth people all the time over even small slights. It seems like every time a wrestler falls on hard times in the modern days Mick is out there doing something to raise money to help them out and often donates sizeable amounts to the fundraising himself. I read something that he even paid to build some schools in Kenya with a $50,000 donation. Mick has to be the highest quality guy in wrestling

  • @marioozzie
    @marioozzie 8 місяців тому +2

    It is so on brand for Vince and his asshole sycophants to drool all over the talentless Sable and treat Luna like shit...but it really made my heart cry when you added that the only person who appreciated her that night was Owen Hart...

  • @C0wboyzfan4life
    @C0wboyzfan4life 3 роки тому +10

    Luna the scariest baddest woman ever step foot in the ring, i really like Madusa former wwf women's champion was good friends with Luna willing put her over to be womens champion.

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 3 роки тому +11

    Luna Vachon was Awesome as part of the ‘Oddities’ in the WWF/E … 🔥

  • @InkedupT-raw
    @InkedupT-raw 3 роки тому +12

    This was a great episode! One of the better ones they've done in season 3 no really appreciate vachon legacy since I never got to watch her in person

  • @deondrecarter153
    @deondrecarter153 3 роки тому +11

    Hi solomonster after season 3 is over do you have any ideas for season 4 of Darkside of the ring?

    • @mrterp04
      @mrterp04 3 роки тому +3

      I’ve been hoping they do an episode on the Hardbody Harrison sex cult

    • @louis3141
      @louis3141 3 роки тому

      I'm hoping they'd have the balls to do one on Rob Feinstein. Somehow he people give him a pass.

    • @stephenmuir6812
      @stephenmuir6812 3 роки тому

      Jimmy Savile comes to mind, he was a wrestler for a short period in the 1950s. If you want dark, he definitely stands out as a true monster.

  • @episode2episode931
    @episode2episode931 3 роки тому +9

    I like your brother already. I watch Hell's Kitchen too, to recognize that was her son. 😄

  • @DarkEdge001
    @DarkEdge001 3 роки тому +3

    In '95 I lost my SNES due to that game (WWF RAW) but I always liked that they added a female with the inclusion of Luna & not just any female but one that looked like she could really wrestle the boys, maybe that's the reason it was specifically her as she could only wrestle against the male wrestlers.

  • @spencer2745
    @spencer2745 3 роки тому +3

    I was shocked she thought she was ugly when you saw the pics of her when she was a young adult I thought she was very beautiful and even a family friend I know who met her at a indy show said she was the most beautiful woman inside and out.

  • @jamesroche8785
    @jamesroche8785 Рік тому +1

    This whole story is just so incredibly heartbreaking. Rest easy, Luna.

  • @flyguy7825
    @flyguy7825 3 роки тому +11

    I was a huge fan of Luna Vachon I never knew she had that many problems throughout her career it's unfortunate her life ended the way it did.

  • @antiembishop07
    @antiembishop07 3 роки тому +8

    This story is heartbreaking

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 2 роки тому

      I just watched it last night. It really was so painful. It didn't even have a happy ending. When she got "inducted" into the WWE Hall of Fame, it wasn't even a marquee induction. She was lumped in with all the other "legacy" folks even though she wrestled in the 90s. She lived such a tortured life and she deserved much better

  • @dexenationgracey1979
    @dexenationgracey1979 2 роки тому +1

    While she didn't see herself as pretty, she had a very underrated look. The half shaved head, the borderline death metal voice, the face paint, that definitely would be much more appreciated now than back then.
    PS: And honestly, when she was younger before the drugs REALLY took a toll she wasn't bad looking behind the paint and she definitely had a nice body.

  • @AngryMagma
    @AngryMagma 3 роки тому +1

    I used to play Dashin' Desperadoes with my older brother on the Sega Genesis

  • @DoneRandomLee
    @DoneRandomLee 3 роки тому +6

    Something I found interesting was gangrel saying how she had multiple personalities. It wasn't listed as one of her mental disorders but I think she may have had dissociative identity disorder. They kept calling her bipolar instead but Angel being childlike innocent, luna being the fighter, along with angele of like the one she usually was and trudy that they didn't go into detail much but it really seems like she was plural. Many who have the disorder has gone through a lot of trauma and with her dad comitting suicide when she was 4, along with all the stories of her being abused throughout the episode I wouldn't be surprised if she had the disorder. Angel being her childlike innocence that was taken away and had to become luna to protect herself so the other people in her head didn't have to deal with it. Maybe luna was the fighter and that's why she'd be attacking gangrel while he was driving and screaming why doesn't he love her because that's how Luna dealt with things. It also can explain why she'd tell gangrel that her aunt abused her and she'd still praise her so much. Maybe some of the other people in her head didn't know of the abuse because they were shielded away. Maybe that protector that had to go through it all was luna or trudy. I am talking about this so much because I have many friends who are plural and dark side of the ring is often pretty good at covering mental disorders while for luna it seemed to just write it off as bipolar. I think there's more to it and with how plurality is used in wrestling (not the best showcase of it with it often just having one feral/monster and then the "normal" one)and there's wrestlers currently openly have it. Maria Manic is one I know that openly said she has it and I think they could have done more

    • @killeryhiltons8499
      @killeryhiltons8499 2 роки тому

      Exactly, Luna mental disorders is based on trauma . Yikes ..

  • @uttermanbo
    @uttermanbo 3 роки тому +3

    Luna was obviously bipolar. Unfortunately the overriding feeling I got from this episode was how much I really never liked Sable. Sunny was much better looking, all the women were better workers, and the ring ropes had more charisma. Sex appeal lol. Wrestling fans that made Sable a star must really be Comic Guy from the Simpson's..

  • @BTgla
    @BTgla 3 роки тому +9

    Luna was unfortunately ahead of her time where men watching wrestling only cared about women as eyecandy hence why an inexperienced Wrestler like Sable went over. Luna would have been a big star right now.

  • @TRivera13
    @TRivera13 3 роки тому +3

    For me Luna was a psycho, a warped figure always jealous of the better looking women in WWF. That's how good of a performer she was. To think in some ways she felt like that for real in a roundabout way (not pretty enough) is so sad to say the least. Then never getting the credit she deserved. It's one of those things where she did her job so well she was taken advantage of.

  • @lukethomas6900
    @lukethomas6900 2 роки тому

    Remember watching her shoot interview with RF video that took place sometime in the early to mid 2000's and thinking that she looked absolutely gorgeous. It's a real shame when some truly beautiful looking people can never see it themselves.
    R.I.P Luna.

  • @Duk3Silv3r
    @Duk3Silv3r 4 місяці тому

    Her finshing move on the Raw game for Sega was called: The Luna Eclipse.

  • @thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827
    @thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827 3 роки тому +1

    I truly did feel sorry for what Luna had to go through especially during her time in WWF because she wants to prove herself to be more than just a valet but she never got the chance and it doesn't make things better when during the attitude era they were pretty much pushing towards women that mostly had smoking hot bodies and barely any wrestling experience. But if she was alive today to see how women's wrestling has come far she would be crying with tears of joy.

  • @ottagol1985
    @ottagol1985 3 роки тому +1

    You forgot to mention that Gangrel was in the WWF in '93... as the masked jobber, The Black Phantom.

  • @chrisbaca3997
    @chrisbaca3997 3 роки тому

    WWG ROYAL RUMBLE was available on the SNES but the rosters were a little different.
    For example:
    Yokozuna was on the SNES version but not the Genesis version.

  • @anthonycampos8057
    @anthonycampos8057 3 роки тому +5

    I get the feeling he doesn't like ADR.

  • @volodymyrbilyk555
    @volodymyrbilyk555 3 роки тому

    Are you going to do a segment on Heels series, wondering if it is any good

  • @markfroman738
    @markfroman738 3 роки тому +2

    Did this episode have dark ominous music?

  • @kcole3937
    @kcole3937 3 роки тому

    Always loved Luna, the eye and back rake DDT and body slam just mean and nasty. Was a big fan of the loud psycho characters back then like Luna and Scary Sherri, early Victoria was up that maniac road too

  • @IleanaRivera-hr9gi
    @IleanaRivera-hr9gi 8 місяців тому

    I love Luna Vachon, however growing up as a kid in the 90's, i was terrified of Luna Vachon. This woman truly creeped me out, and put fear in my heart. Out of all the female talent to come through the WWF Luna is one of the best ever.

  • @BuffdatRatt
    @BuffdatRatt 3 роки тому

    The fire just puts it over the top for how bad she had it in life … RIP Luna. Legends never die.

  • @miguquaao3664
    @miguquaao3664 3 роки тому

    Hello. Who is the woman with glasses in the doc?

  • @ShootItALBY
    @ShootItALBY 3 роки тому +9

    Luna was born 20 years to early. Would have been a star today

  • @travtra8346
    @travtra8346 Рік тому

    So many backstories on wrestlers I didn’t kno about

  • @roybledsoe24
    @roybledsoe24 3 роки тому +1

    This, Kanyon and the steroid trial are the ones I was looking forward too

  • @jerranspearman3369
    @jerranspearman3369 2 роки тому

    good review

  • @retepoteil
    @retepoteil 3 роки тому +3

    Would’ve been cool to see sable and or sonny interviewed for this episode

  • @AaronWorldOrder
    @AaronWorldOrder 3 роки тому +2

    Didn't she a small stint in WCW after WWE the first time?

    • @CyberJawa1986
      @CyberJawa1986 3 роки тому

      I’m not sure I’d call it a stint, more like a couple of one night special appearances .

  • @samanthasims7123
    @samanthasims7123 3 роки тому

    She really been thru it like dammmm rip luna u r missed

  • @ROBken2654
    @ROBken2654 3 роки тому +1

    I was probably way to young to know who Luna vachon was.

  • @Misterkennedy04
    @Misterkennedy04 2 роки тому +1

    Sherri said in an interview from 07 she was fired from wwe because she got popped with weed

  • @nickebert7453
    @nickebert7453 Рік тому

    Luna was in WCW in the late 90’s after her WWE run

  • @JustinStinoStamosZamora42
    @JustinStinoStamosZamora42 3 роки тому +1

    Poor Luna ☹

  • @obadiahvondeath8048
    @obadiahvondeath8048 3 роки тому +2

    Volkoff was awesome!

  • @levithomas2700
    @levithomas2700 6 місяців тому

    Could you imagine luna vs rhea Ripley?

  • @GeneKing-lz8xg
    @GeneKing-lz8xg 5 місяців тому +1

    Anotherlegendgonetoosoon.😢😢😢😢😮

  • @FreddieBlaze
    @FreddieBlaze 3 роки тому

    Always loved Luna!😔

  • @johnnypavkovich6238
    @johnnypavkovich6238 Рік тому

    Will Luna find a set of gusts to face madusa in a chain hand cuffs on a pol match will Luna com out of hinding from madusa will Luna face madusa will this figth happen

  • @johnnypavkovich6238
    @johnnypavkovich6238 Рік тому

    Eye sure hop that it will happen

  • @michaelriverajr8891
    @michaelriverajr8891 Рік тому

    Luna would thrive in today's women's wrestling compared to how women's wrestling used to be. She dared to be different

  • @JanetMichael-j3s
    @JanetMichael-j3s 4 місяці тому

    We wood love to see luna vachon com out of her hinding spot and face madusa four this steel chain hand cuffs on a pol match with madusa if luna will dig down and find her guts to figth madusa if luna is not afraid to face madusa and find out witch won of you will arest the other won with steel chain hand cuffs luna

  • @JanetMichael-j3s
    @JanetMichael-j3s 4 місяці тому

    Will luna dig down and fined her guts to face madusa in a steel chain hand cuffs on a pol match lets hop luna finds a set of guts to face madusa with this steel chain hand cuffs match

  • @bannebigfoot48
    @bannebigfoot48 3 роки тому +1

    Any chance you selling your Luna autograph 🤔?

  • @Nazzlover38
    @Nazzlover38 3 роки тому

    If she were alive today, I'd put the Universal Champion on Luna, because too me she was more then just a Women's Wrestler. They should've done more with her instead of Sable, cause she sucked! Nothing but B&A and no talent what so ever!

  • @wa2k99
    @wa2k99 3 роки тому +1

    I was like #69