4Kids' Dragon Ball Disaster

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
  • Dragon Ball Z Kai briefly aired on 4Kids' Saturday morning block, Toonzai. Despite its short run, it had a huge impact on DBZ Kai's perception in the west. Let MugiMallard explain why people got so easily misinformed and hopefully clear up misconceptions.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 62

  • @MugiMallard
    @MugiMallard  Рік тому +9

    How did you first get into Dragon Ball? Was it Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z Kai, the original Dragon Ball or something else? Lemme know!

    • @spin08
      @spin08 Рік тому +1

      The art style drew me in and I later got into the story of the series through the original manga using it as a guide and influence but also as a form of storytelling I can read and respect

    • @RadicalCrabical
      @RadicalCrabical Рік тому +1

      mugi how did you first get into dragon ball?

    • @anthonylucero6650
      @anthonylucero6650 8 місяців тому +1

      You’re a hater mook😒

    • @I-absolveyouofyoursins
      @I-absolveyouofyoursins 6 місяців тому +1

      The original dragon ball. Not z

    • @KKHell
      @KKHell 3 місяці тому +1

      Was all like "i recognize the anime things!" as a kid, then got back into it after choosing to play Webfoot's Legacy of Goku trilogy

  • @Meebies_YT
    @Meebies_YT Рік тому +35

    While 4Kids had a bunch of censorships and people mostly remember DBZ Kai from 4Kids, Nicktoons or 4Kids, there is one thing we can all agree on...
    Kai was revolutionary and brought a truckload of fans to Dragon Ball.

    • @samuel-wankenobi
      @samuel-wankenobi 7 місяців тому +2

      Kai is great when watching uncut

    • @dwainsimmons3447
      @dwainsimmons3447 7 місяців тому +2

      Why hadn’t people heard the nicktoons version.

    • @UltraAfroman
      @UltraAfroman 3 місяці тому +2

      DBZ Kai on Nicktoons was how I got into liking the series.

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Місяць тому

      @@UltraAfromansame

  • @stevenspurling
    @stevenspurling 4 місяці тому +16

    I remember when 4kids was just cw4kids, then it was vortex, then they took away Saturday morning cartoons

    • @kingofaramaic
      @kingofaramaic 3 місяці тому

      The reason was due to some stupid educational bill that got passed.

    • @theamazingbrianshow1289
      @theamazingbrianshow1289 2 місяці тому +1

      I remember turning on the tv waiting for the cartoons to show up and just seeing nothing….. I was so sad😭

  • @BJH0380
    @BJH0380 7 місяців тому +5

    What’s funny is when DBZ aired in syndication back in the 90’s, both the halos and Mr. Popo’s original skin color were left intact.

    • @TommyMG96
      @TommyMG96 4 місяці тому +3

      even the dbz reruns in the mid 2000s kept all that

  • @andrewcosta5001
    @andrewcosta5001 7 місяців тому +2

    4kids is what introduced me to Dragon Ball z and anime in general, so thanks for that 4kids

  • @SpeedsterBlur
    @SpeedsterBlur Рік тому +11

    Ok I knew about the Nicktoons release of DBZ Kai, but I had no idea 4kids had it's own release. Reminds me of when I saw One Piece on CN and the 4kids block at the same time in the early 2000's.

  • @redstreak9430
    @redstreak9430 10 місяців тому +8

    It’s a shame many people dismiss Kai for the reasons you listed here. Funny enough, years after the Toonzai/Vortexx airings, the uncut dub WOULD be available on the Adult Swim Toonami Block but by then the damage had been done with its reputation. I grew up on the original airing on Toonami but I guess I’m mature enough to review it in hindsight and appreciate the fixed version. Then again, it may be because I grew up also on 4Kids dubbed anime like One Piece and could appreciate it when the uncut versions would become available and more accessible.

  • @wy0lkensb.902
    @wy0lkensb.902 7 місяців тому +4

    Nicktoons was the first reason why I’m into dbz Kai and I loved it ever since and I watched the 4kids version at the same time too lol

  • @xpdev0
    @xpdev0 8 місяців тому +6

    Piccolo is a Saiyan just lik-

  • @sapphirepop
    @sapphirepop Рік тому +3

    I remember first getting into Dragon Ball when watching Dragon Ball Z Kai on Nicktoon and also how confused I was when I started researching the show episodes 😅

  • @dyl_pickle16-mta48
    @dyl_pickle16-mta48 5 днів тому

    Despite the massive changes, I still enjoyed watching the show on 4Kids because it was the only way I could see the show on TV back then, and I didn't really notice the changes because I was a child.

  • @22cber
    @22cber 7 днів тому

    Well dbz kai also had controversial recasts too, like Stephanie Nadolny not being cast as Gohan because Chris Sabat said she was hard to work. Not to mention whatever happened to Bradford Jackson

  • @swagman299
    @swagman299 2 місяці тому

    I remember seeing Dragon Ball Gt and reruns of Kai on nicktoons, but Kai I remember seeing of CW after its 4kids change to Vortexx

  • @OmegaRockman
    @OmegaRockman 6 місяців тому +2

    I actually think the Nicktoons edit of Kai was pretty tastefully done; things were toned down, but the story was still fully intact. As for the 4kids version, though many of the visual edits were incredibly silly, I still think that it's a solid version thanks to the script and music still being there. Yeah, Spirit Blast (not Ball, Spirit Ball has been the dub name for Yamcha's Sokidan since the old days) and Galick Blast were dumb, and Schemmel having to voice match Sabat and Strait for certain toned down lines was funny. But I'd still rather show that version to a kid than any of the original Z dubs with their constant changes to Toriyama's writing and characters. It's just a kid friendly version of what is still very much a faithful depiction of Toriyama's story. Of course, the Uncut version is still the best choice for older audiences.

    • @MugiMallard
      @MugiMallard  6 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you. I think the Kai dub in general is a punching bag in the English fandom, especially by those who grew up with the original Z dub. I think Funimation got better as time went on, and the best way to watch DBZ in English is Kai. The Nicktoons edit felt perfectly watchable IMO.
      By the way, it's great to see you again after all these years, dude. I still have fond memories of voicing kid Trunks in your Yo! Son Goku & His Friends Return fandub from way back when lol.

    • @OmegaRockman
      @OmegaRockman 6 місяців тому

      @@MugiMallard Oh, shoot! I didn't recognize you because of the new channel name! This video just randomly popped up in my recommended lol. It's great hearing from you too!
      Yeah, I can't believe we released that dub over a decade ago now. How time flies lol. I'm glad you're still going strong with content creation. Definitely subbing to the new channel!

  • @LRIZUKU
    @LRIZUKU 3 місяці тому

    DBZ kai on CW4kids was the first time I've watched the dragon ball series and I've been a huge fan ever since

  • @Wattson-ston
    @Wattson-ston 10 місяців тому

    You're heavily underrated. Your character looks cool!

  • @ScienceDrummer
    @ScienceDrummer 8 місяців тому +1

    7:01 I thought it was Spirit Blast?

    • @davidburton4836
      @davidburton4836 6 місяців тому

      It was. Spirit Ball was the dub name of one of Yamcha's attacks. He probably just misspoke due to how similar the names are.

  • @PitifulHealer42
    @PitifulHealer42 Рік тому +2

    There is actually a character named Commander Black and he appeared in Dragon Ball. I think they stopped showing him because of the blsackface thing.

    • @Tyree42069
      @Tyree42069 4 місяці тому

      I thought they only stopped showing him because he fucking died💀 wasn’t he the red ribbon arm guy that shot his extremely short commander, he tried to fight goku but failed horribly 😭

  • @BraveryWing26
    @BraveryWing26 8 днів тому

    Also on 4kids the Genki Dama is Spirit BLAST. As in NOT A BALL.

  • @Mikewells90
    @Mikewells90 3 місяці тому

    I remember those days

  • @elimDBZ
    @elimDBZ 4 місяці тому

    Let's be glad that DBZ Kai is airing on cartoon Network as thanks to Toonami rewind and its on adult swim toonami

  • @kingmo8789
    @kingmo8789 Місяць тому

    I first got into Dragon ball from DBZ Kai on Nicktoons. I got to say, im proud to binge watch the nicktoons version of Kai. I think that Nicktoons did a decent job of editing all, though some of them are hit or miss but my point still stands. I also watched the 4kids version and they has a track record of crappy censorship of the shows they air but i always prefer the Nicktoons version.

  • @1upGaming1up
    @1upGaming1up 8 місяців тому +2

    My first exposer to Dragon Ball was Dragon Ball Z, at first I wasn't a fan of it but by the time when Toonami aired the Original Dragon Ball I felt it was a good time to get into the series, however when Dragon Ball Z Kai got dubbed it came at a bad time because I dipped out of it thanks to Dragon Ball Evolution and how that ruined the series and the fact that Cartoon Network cancelled Toonami.
    when 4kids started to air DBZ Kai on CW I was more pissed off (I was a Teenager at the time and that Dragon Ball Evolution ruined Dragon Ball) being that My childhood got ruined and I hated of DBZ Kai thanks to 4kids, however all hope was not lost, when Toonami came back I had hopes that We'd get Dragon Ball Z Kai on the block and Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods got me back into the series and We'd got Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters.
    While I still prefer Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super in English (I'm very nostalgia bias to the Funimation now Crunchyroll dub of the shows, yeah DB and DBZ's dubs aged mostly they had to go with script from Ocean Productions) but I'd agree Dragon Ball Z Kai is better than Dragon Ball Z dubbed, if someone says they want to get into Dragon Ball Z, I'll direct them to Dragon Ball Z Kai in English as it's more close to the Manga.

  • @BraveryWing26
    @BraveryWing26 8 днів тому

    Some say Disaster, I say The CW WISHES they could still pull the ratings this 'disaster' did for most of its run. 1.1 million. NO Kids CHANNEL does that anymore. Not even bringing back WWE to The CW did as well as DBZKai did.

  • @akiraevangelionultimateali5199
    @akiraevangelionultimateali5199 6 місяців тому

    7:06 I don’t think that was in ocean

  • @supershadixboom4040
    @supershadixboom4040 4 місяці тому +4

    Real ones watched DBZ Kai on Nicktoons

    • @TelevisionProgrammer
      @TelevisionProgrammer 2 місяці тому +2

      I watched it on Adult Swim as a kid!
      What do you say to that?!

    • @kazi1
      @kazi1 Місяць тому +1

      @@TelevisionProgrammerToonami version > Nicktoons > CW Toonzai/Vortexx

  • @ImSakataGintokiComeAtMe
    @ImSakataGintokiComeAtMe 2 місяці тому

    U sound like that one really funny cartoon sonic

  • @WandellaMchome
    @WandellaMchome 9 місяців тому +2

    Bro was playing Fortnite💀💀💀💀🎃

  • @foxeygamer87sonic
    @foxeygamer87sonic 8 місяців тому +1

    If Dragon Ball Z Kai was on 4kids it would be terrible

    • @wy0lkensb.902
      @wy0lkensb.902 7 місяців тому +2

      It was..

    • @jayfernotrash
      @jayfernotrash 6 місяців тому +2

      that’s…literally what this video is about

  • @noahalcantar2431
    @noahalcantar2431 2 місяці тому

    How bad is the 4kids dub for Dragon Ball Z Kai?

  • @LetsPlayNintendoITA2023
    @LetsPlayNintendoITA2023 8 місяців тому

    oof with fortnite gameplay lol thanks for the video tho

  • @Maytrixbrolyy
    @Maytrixbrolyy Рік тому +5

    i watched kai on toonzai/vortexx ages ago and loved it