A version of Cell with Buu’s DNA(?) is terrifying. Especially since Frieza has returned and revealed a new Golden form. Cell could potentially have a similar new form. And Super is real good at making insane power ups too.
Honestly I feel like they wrote him out to keep balance...he has saiyan dna as well as the zenkai boost all he would need to do is train (which he can most likely do in hell like frieza did) and he would be the new problem once again so they made frieza come back because his power can be limited easier
I think it was Tenkaichi 3 that had a what if story where Raditz became a good guy but ended up dying anyway. I remember it being surprisingly emotional.
Out of all the rushed plot points in super the bit of trunks killing off dabura and babadi when they arrived preventing buu from releasing isn’t surprising . Unlike everyone else he has the tendency to get the job done then and there and not let it escalate.
@@sburbtube6766 if your saying that in the sense trunks shouldn’t be able to beat him . You’d be right if that was trunks during the cell games . Super trunks at the time babadi had showed up had already learned ssj2. Which as you know is cells weakness 🥴😂. Gohan with a busted arm still beat his super perfect form (with slight help from Vegeta 💀 who put him in that situation to begin with 😆) so nah had buu showed up I won’t lie as much as I love my boi, buu would’ve curb stomped my man 🥲😔😭
@Herrscher of Damnation ssj gohan was not stronger than goku, it was only said that his potential was much greater. You can also see that in the gohan and cell fight, gohan couldn’t even tickle cell while in his ssj form
@@that_guy55 u didnt watch the cell saga. korin, goku, cell, and even gohan himself note that he is indeed actually stronger than goku. not to mention cell only used 50% of his power against goku in order to give him a good fight without straight up cooking him.
My question is how come Babidi shows up later in trunks timeline rather showing up say when he was a kid like he was in the main DBZ timeline, that’s one plot hole
Don't know whether Toyotaro din't think of other timelines while bringing Moro in the story or Toyotaro probably thought of other timelines which is why Moro gave the following statement: "Its a miracle that a portion of my magic have returned before my life was expired" or something like that. In other words if Moro din't get the portion of his magic within weeks, months or a year, he would most likely be withered away and died. Though i do wonder if Toyotaro is going to explain how and why a fraction of Moro's magic returned in the main timeline. I think Merus is probably responsible in some way.
@@psychotropicfan a lot of dragon ball what ifs on UA-cam have Moro break out anyway even though buu isn’t revived. Though since they’re not canon, toyotarou could’ve just made this not occur in canon
I don't think so! Janemba was born in the Z-Verse and stood and was ended by Gogeta! There were no leaks and I don't know if the accident happened in Future Trunks's timeline. But if he is alive, so are Bojack, Hirudegarn and all those that came after Cell Saga.
You know, I just started to think about something...why hasn't Freeza popped up at all during the Moro Arc? He is literally eating/killing the planets that Freeza would be raiding and selling off. No merch, no money.
I know that you wouldn't have been able to know this, but Frieza 1: Didn't want to deal with Moro 2: Was training in the HTC to become Frieza Edit: Moro might have caused Frieza to train (as well as ssjb Gogeta and Broly)
i would definitely love to see a version of cell that’s like end game thanos. i think that would be super interesting to see and a great way to have cell make his comeback to the series.
Granted he wouldn’t have Androids 17 and 18 to absorb. I guess Cell would probably at peak strength in form 1 eating whoever is left without competition.
Cell would have to get access to the time rings. Maybe he absorbs Shin when Babidi tries to resurrect Buu? A divine Cell with access to the time rings would be able to pick any version of 17 and 18 he wanted, and the main timeline versions of those characters are significantly more powerful than any other. Imagine a Cell with divine powers, access to the time rings, and having absorbed the Tournament of Power versions of 17 and 18.
I can imagine seeing two Friezas in the main universe maybe the Frieza from one timeline wanting to make a wish so badly but cant if the Earth was destroyed then learns of a way to time travel ending up in the main timeline where he eventually encounters himself and learns golden form. Now Goku and Vegeta have to deal with 2 Golden Friezas. Maybe the Frieza from the main time line remembers Vegito briefly mentioning fusion and wonders if maybe he could then fuse with the other Frieza, maybe heading back to their own planet or something (if he has a main planet, would be cool to finally see it if he did) to see if their is such a technique exclusive to their race.
5:00 Unseen timeline could have an interesting conflict where Cell is forced to become the hero and fight boo If he became perfect (he could force someone to rebuild the robots), he wouldn't necessarily need to kill people and the cells of the Z fighters may have incentivized him to take the place of the Z-fighters both for the thrill of battle and for the good personality of most of his code
People be always seeking stuff behind dragonball stories. While dude literally said: Goten didn't have a tail because I forgot about it. Touriyama never layers the universe like that himself, its basicly all fan philosophy. Which is cool, its just forever all non canon. Touriyama never built the story to be dissected like that.
Gero's computer stopped collecting data before Namek and Gero was the one collecting cells. He never lived enough to get Buu's cells. Also...Buu never came back to life if there's no Goku, Gohan or Vegeta .
@@Anthony-nm7cu He is a good father to both of his sons, plus I dont think a husband that shitty would get angry at the hearing the death of his wife and second son killed by Zamasu in a different timeline. If you think about it Bardock(Goku`s father) isn`t that much around Gine(Goku`s mother) he is mostly away somewhere in another planet , so I guess being a battle hardened saiyan would also go to Goku which just makes both Bardock and Goku just go off fighting or training. So in my opinion both Bardock and Goku just likes to protect the ones they love, Bardock died confronting Frieza and knowing he saved his youngest son Kakarot and Goku he died multiple times just to save his friends and family, just cause he died doesn`t mean he does not care about his wife and son after he died in the Cell Saga. Anyway have a great day/night.
I'm still mad that Cell didn't return in the main timeline. Vegeta is a good guy, Frieza is....Frieza, and Majin Buu gets away with being a lobotomized man child. Cell just stays dead.
Original Timeline: In Chaos (U7 could possibly be erased by Zeno) Trunks' Timeline: Error 404 Main Timeline: Vibin' with Moro right now U12 Time Traveler: Probably where Goku Black started so U12 be vibin' with black Timeline Trunks went to: Probably Vibin' with 2 different versions of trunks
i agree friezia has stayed around for to long and really needs to be killed off for good, i mean our heroes let him go at the end of the broly film and was last seen conquering a planet.
@@tonyeharrison1899 I mean he is a threat to earth as well, no one but Goku, Vegeta and Beerus and Whis can stop him, so frieza could his attack right he could take out earth and vanish before they ever came to it's aid. Yeah Goku might let him go as he wants a strong opponent (i hate Super Goku) Vegeta i can't see him letting Frieza live after he pulled that Broly stunt off. I mean Goku in DBZ was going to end frieza and did, but now in Super he won't kill him. It is just wrong and i feel like the writers just keep frieza around to milk him like the cash cow he is.
HistoryFan476ad Totally agree with you in this video. At this point Frieza’s basically just going to be the team rocket of the anime. And I also hate super Goku due to those reasons as well
@@tonyeharrison1899 Controversial Opinion here but i would rather the show Ended with Z and GT and Super never was made. Have battle of gods as a one off film.
I dont know why, but the video title feels like a breaking news headline. Like somehow, we need to be worried that they are alive, and they may be in your city. lmao
that’d be a really interesting arc to see in dbs. it’s not a very original concept considering naruto shippuden did that kind of arc first but nonetheless i’d love to see it in dbs.
1.Caulifla black & bebi kale exist as Alter version and girl villians of Bebi vegeta and goku black. 2.Zangya ditched bojack and gohan On earth and Conquered the yardrats and became Their cruel ruthless queen. 3.tiencha fusion defeated spopvich and yamu. 4.radtiz Became good hooked up with launch Now have ranch daikon and muli Like masako X on UA-cam . 5.Janemba is sky blue and silver Instead of red and purple. 6.Gohan, kid trunks and goten defeat garlic jr for his 3rd return , 7.cooler killed frieza and goku on namek,vegeta got his immortality wish 8.Pan became a super saiyan . 9 right before cell kills future trunks In a last ditch effort and screw you to Cell he sent his time machine back To king vegeta's time and now king vegeta has it although I'd doubt he Would know how to use it . 10. Goten and kid trunks replace goku And vegeta as the main characters but They cone out of retirement when Goten and trunks cannot get the job done. Ideas and thoughts I had .
This is so true, but they really do leave stuff in the past but i'd be delighted and shocked to see zamasu or cell return to the modern world Dragonball is now with God Ki Gods, Angels etc. Who knows how strong he'd be
@@iceesrule75 I don't see how the angels would affect time, Whis only rewinded time in the Goku Black arc. It wouldn't affect anything more than Trunks time machine there's only two other time lines besides the main one.
Interesting points on Cell in that unseen timeline. That Cell could potentially be a possibility in bringing him back from the dead to fight the Z fighters, and as you said a fucking overpowered form, makes more sense then Frieza 4 months training being initial blue tier lol.
The Trunk-less timeline is a really screwed one, damn. Shin with no help gets defeated by Dabura, thus Beerus ceases to exist. Buu gets revived from the Earth population alone and assuming they leave the planet without destroying it the surviving Earthlings will face a much, much stronger Cell. Since the androids weren't of this world anymore, while he was still being worked on he'd probably get Perfect as his default and have Shin, Dabura and Buu's DNA within him. And then there's Moro, who might encounter Buu and easily absorb his powers. Broly would have been all alone since Paragus inevitable death of old age, no doubt he'd have unlocked his wrathful or even his super saiyan form that day. What happens next is really hard to say. Cell, Moro or Broly might be made a GoD candidate by the Grand Priest to replace Beerus. I could really see any of them being granted that status. Depending on who gets the job, the story would change drastically.
4:59 its not likely that babidi would have ressurected buu on earth but maybe on brolys planet in the original timeline as they needed something arounf ssj2 level in order to fill the tank way quicker
Not gonna lie, at first this made the timelines more confusing for me but coming back months later and drawing it out on paper made it a lot easier to understand
🤔🤔🤔Wait, so when this have meant that they were two different trunks going to the present timeline. The one that cell killed, is a completely different trunks. And he was going to the present timeline. as well as a trunk who gave Goku the cure. So it’s two of them.
Didn't Buu need a lot of fighting energy spent by others to revive? Without warriors on the planet who would fight? Would Babidi try to force 17 and 18 to fight over and over until the bar ticked over, like grinding EXP in a game where you forgot to do so right before some boss fight and you only have low level random encounters to gain EXP with lol
@@TheUncivilizedNation all mortals yes ,but Goku Black said that he killed all the gods of the other universes,so he can have his fun without pesky Destroyers coming to stop him
If you think about it, there should be a second Cell in Trunks's timeline. He went back to the past of his own world, right? And that's when things started to diverge from the history he knew? But when he got to the past, Cell had already been there for a year. So what happened to the time-travelling Cell in the timeline where Trunks never showed up?
The coordinates was already set for that particular timeline Trunks went to in the first place... Cell just went 1 year further than Trunks did when he time traveled to give Goku the medicine
only Goku had knowledge of the location of new namek. and he only knows thanks to instant transmission and the ability to locate lifeforms across the universe. pretty sure new namek is in a location not meant to be found to prevent another frieza fiasco.
you missed one cell, the one created when future trunks comes back the first time creating the main timeline. since cell was already there it got divided into the main timeline that we see but that means that he is in the future trunks timeline as well, so what happens to him did the androids kill him? he hid and was the one that trunks kill at the end or was that the one in the lab?
That's the one, Cell's Trunks went to an alternate timeliness in which he and the Z FIghters defeated Android 17 and 18 without using the time chamber.
The Trunks who was killed by Cell never helped the others defeat the Androids. That’s just something that guide made up that was later removed in future guides bc it didn’t make sense. Trunks was gonna go back 3 years. I know Trunks said it landed 4 but Piccolo said 3 which makes more sense with the idea of him wanting to come back to tell them he won. If he went back 3 it would have been shortly after his first trip.
You know... Thinking about it, if Cell was left to his own devices I could see him getting brutally overpowered considered he has Goku's progress ethic+Frieza's instant win genes along with his ridiculous powers... Heck, I mean he can make training partners of similar power to himself!... So it's not like he will somehow have stunted growth from unworthy opponents. I would like to see a special showing if Cell won. What would he do? How strong would he get? Would he even still be evil or would he mellow out now that the checklist of "become perfect" and "kill Goku" is done? (not saying he'd be good, but I could see him mellowing out over time and not being "as evil" or even going neutral after getting bored) He's just a cool character with neat possibilities and tons of potential.
Unseen timeline or timeline 4 Is a repeat of timeline 1 . Due to goku black and zamasu The main timeline or timeline 1 Was split in 2 due to the time ring . Then because of the other time rings There is a time line 5 and time line 6 . Future trunks and future mai went to Time line 6 to warn that beerus and live Along side their counter parts . What I dont understand is why didnt Future trunks go to timeline 3 Since that future bulma should still be alive..... also since they used future cells Time machine shouldn't they have gone To time line 3 instead of timeline 2 ?
you're mistaken - timeline 4 was created by Timeline 3 because Trunk from timeline 3 was killed by Cell. So two things either happened in Timeline 4 either there was Cell games without Trunks because Trunks was killed before he had the chance to return with knowledge on how to defeat Androids or Cell never showed up. However, Cell would probably still show just from another timeline most likely timeline 5 meaning Trunks from timeline 3 appeared in Timeline 4 - Timeline 4 is the unseen timeline and timeline 5 is the unknown timeline - making 6 Black's timeline and 7 the new Future Trunks timeline. There were four green Time Rings - the Green Time Rings are alternate timeline while main timeline which is timeline 1 are has a silver or grey Time Ring. meaning that was 5 timelines at the time of the introduction of the Time Rings. After fused Zamasu's death - there was only six because Future Trunks's timeline was destroyed.
@@BlakeSmith17 What I dont understand is Cell time machine why didnt it Take future trunks ,goku and vegeta To timeline 3 instead of timeline 2 , Possibly for plot purposes ?
@@Lupo32 they probably had some kind of control over the destination or just an oversight on the plot. Maybe they had help as it was mention that only a select few deities can manipulate time which seems like a Chronoa reference (Chronoa is the name of the Supreme Kai of Time for anyone that may not know).
There are total of 4 Cell & Zamasu out of all these timelines where 1 of them still existed in an alternate timeline. We already saw 4 Android 17 combined in both DBZ, DBS, & DB GT altogether and could be one or two more of him if he still existed in another alternate timeline version.
When they ask why they didn’t disappear beacuse of beerus hakai , goku black explains his time ring won’t ulter it to happen and zamasu of trunks timeline can’t be erase because he is immortal thus this concludes that alternative timelines has no zamasu which made it to create another ring
4th timeline cell would always be Imperfect because of loss of the Androids which is the coolest form of Cell imo maybe without a directive he would join the Z fighters in that form would be an interesting what if scenario
IN regards to there being two Trunks in that timeline... that other time machine that Bulma gave them after Black destroyed the original, was the time machine that CELL USED. I think Whis was lying to Future Trunks when he said he'd have to live among him and Mai's doubles . I think Whis actually took Trunks back to his original Timeline.
I highly doubt we'll see any of the alternate timelines at this point. They already did an alternate timeline story with the Goku Black arc, and I doubt they're going to go deeper into that. The timelines of Trunks's futures are a big rabbit hole that I don't think anyone wants to go down. Plus, it would be sorta pointless to rehash a bunch of old villains (I don't even know why they keep doing it with Frieza)
This also means that toriama never said GT wasn't Canon but it was just an alternate timeline meaning GT can very well take place in one of these alternate timelines after the end of z and then dragon Ball super could have taken away the origins of Goku for what is said in super and also changing the end of z for whatever will happen next
I personally snd specifically belive that the time line where all of the z movies ( not including battel of gods and resurrection f) are canon is a timeline where beerus dosent wake up, and GT is the result of that
I think Buu was revived with the unseen timeline.. Cell would've been dead because the destruction of the earth. Zamasu would've probably still been disgusted with mortals.. since he had a hatred and doubt about the mortals. Zamasu would feel indifferent and probably hate Buu for the destruction that Buu would've cause to universe 7 and Zeno would've probably erased everything in Universe 7 anyway since the extremely low mortal count. Which would have a ripple effect of Zeno destroying other universes such like universe 6 (in the manga) and universe 9 (in both). If Zeno really wanted to he could wipe out half the universe which barley have universe 2 and universe 11 surviving and on notice. Zamasu would've been erased without being notice. Same with Moro.
Somewhere in the endless number of timelines, Oolong is the most powerful being in the db universe
Which is adjacent to the Universe where Raditz learned Ultra Instinct on Earth and became the next G.o.D
General blue god of destruction smashin phoneboxes
Nah. The Namekian frog.
Dude watch TotallyNotMark's video about how Oolong could become the most powerful being in the multiverse. It's possible.
Legendary super-swine ? really noone made that reference ??
A version of Cell with Buu’s DNA(?) is terrifying. Especially since Frieza has returned and revealed a new Golden form. Cell could potentially have a similar new form. And Super is real good at making insane power ups too.
He already has a pseudo ssj form
yeah since buu regeneration is much faster than piccolo
Cyberknight Combat I meant like an additional one on top of that.
Honestly I feel like they wrote him out to keep balance...he has saiyan dna as well as the zenkai boost all he would need to do is train (which he can most likely do in hell like frieza did) and he would be the new problem once again so they made frieza come back because his power can be limited easier
Majin buu wasn't just biology, it was also magic, I don't know if dr. Gero could incorporate some aspects of that magic.
In another alternative timeline, Raditz was redeemed, is a great husband & father, and overall great addition to the group
He bagged launch or na
I think it was Tenkaichi 3 that had a what if story where Raditz became a good guy but ended up dying anyway. I remember it being surprisingly emotional.
Out of all the rushed plot points in super the bit of trunks killing off dabura and babadi when they arrived preventing buu from releasing isn’t surprising . Unlike everyone else he has the tendency to get the job done then and there and not let it escalate.
Dabura is canonically as strong as perfect Cell
@@sburbtube6766 if your saying that in the sense trunks shouldn’t be able to beat him . You’d be right if that was trunks during the cell games . Super trunks at the time babadi had showed up had already learned ssj2. Which as you know is cells weakness 🥴😂. Gohan with a busted arm still beat his super perfect form (with slight help from Vegeta 💀 who put him in that situation to begin with 😆) so nah had buu showed up I won’t lie as much as I love my boi, buu would’ve curb stomped my man 🥲😔😭
@Herrscher of Damnation ssj gohan was not stronger than goku, it was only said that his potential was much greater. You can also see that in the gohan and cell fight, gohan couldn’t even tickle cell while in his ssj form
@@that_guy55 u didnt watch the cell saga. korin, goku, cell, and even gohan himself note that he is indeed actually stronger than goku. not to mention cell only used 50% of his power against goku in order to give him a good fight without straight up cooking him.
My question is how come Babidi shows up later in trunks timeline rather showing up say when he was a kid like he was in the main DBZ timeline, that’s one plot hole
So in one timeline it's entirely possible cooler took over the freiza forces? As metal cooler or otherwise.
more likely babidi made cooler Majin
I always forget that Trunks and Mai got sent to a timeline with another Trunks and Mai and now I'm angry again
yeah, and trunks kill the trunks there and have two mai. cause he have ssj rage
He should have gone to cells timeline where there was a bulma with no trunks!
@@houseofpaine5251 ikr?! What a missed opportunity
It was so weird...especially how it is implied that kid mai has a crush on adult trunks🤢
@@MrMutou But Kid Mai is 41 years old, but yet again she is 100 or more years old in the future timeline.
6:55, ahh. I feel the pain.
you’re underrated and that’s facts
Juicy Boi what because he has a low subscriber count?
Im just gonna hit the sub like a real G
He’s damian Lillard 😂
Yes brother underrated as hell man..he deserves many more subs
Juicy Boi yup, he has captain guru levels of subs but needs more.
Moro to Future Trunks: I’m going to suck the life out of you like nothing you’ve ever experienced before!
Future Mai: Hold my hair back...
~_~
😂😂😂
Man😹😹😂😂😂💀💀💀
LMFAO
I think a combined future and past trunks could win via fusion
@@-Extra_Lives r/woooosh
Don't know whether Toyotaro din't think of other timelines while bringing Moro in the story or Toyotaro probably thought of other timelines which is why Moro gave the following statement: "Its a miracle that a portion of my magic have returned before my life was expired" or something like that.
In other words if Moro din't get the portion of his magic within weeks, months or a year, he would most likely be withered away and died.
Though i do wonder if Toyotaro is going to explain how and why a fraction of Moro's magic returned in the main timeline. I think Merus is probably responsible in some way.
Its buu dying and stuff. Him not getting revived stopped him getting free before dying in trunks and other timelines.
@@psychotropicfan a lot of dragon ball what ifs on UA-cam have Moro break out anyway even though buu isn’t revived. Though since they’re not canon, toyotarou could’ve just made this not occur in canon
so there's a timeline where all the Z fighters(including future trunks) are dead? that's dark
Isn't that Future Trunks timeline?
Yeah
Markmagician2 well it’s now gone thanks to zeno
@@JodaroKujo and rewound because of whis
No there is no time the universe was erased.who just took them to another timeline
I'm pretty sure Janemba is still alive somewhere
Plot twist .... he has a differnt color
Scheme sky blue and silver instead
Of purple and red .
Ask db heroes lol
Janemba only appears in universes where buu is dead so slim chance buu is op
I don't think so! Janemba was born in the Z-Verse and stood and was ended by Gogeta! There were no leaks and I don't know if the accident happened in Future Trunks's timeline. But if he is alive, so are Bojack, Hirudegarn and all those that came after Cell Saga.
In another timeline, so it's somewhen instead
You know, I just started to think about something...why hasn't Freeza popped up at all during the Moro Arc? He is literally eating/killing the planets that Freeza would be raiding and selling off. No merch, no money.
I can't remember if it was in the manga or one of the special pages, but Frieza just can't be bothered to deal with criminals and the Galactic Patrol.
@@artcasual99 If dealing with them meant my profit margins stayed up, I would be looking into it. Freeza is just lazy.
@@GVGINU I think he knows he would get wrapped
Same thing with Broly, Toyotaro doesn't want to bother with them for now.
I know that you wouldn't have been able to know this, but Frieza
1: Didn't want to deal with Moro
2: Was training in the HTC to become Frieza
Edit: Moro might have caused Frieza to train (as well as ssjb Gogeta and Broly)
i would definitely love to see a version of cell that’s like end game thanos. i think that would be super interesting to see and a great way to have cell make his comeback to the series.
Granted he wouldn’t have Androids 17 and 18 to absorb. I guess Cell would probably at peak strength in form 1 eating whoever is left without competition.
Cell would have to get access to the time rings. Maybe he absorbs Shin when Babidi tries to resurrect Buu? A divine Cell with access to the time rings would be able to pick any version of 17 and 18 he wanted, and the main timeline versions of those characters are significantly more powerful than any other.
Imagine a Cell with divine powers, access to the time rings, and having absorbed the Tournament of Power versions of 17 and 18.
I can imagine seeing two Friezas in the main universe maybe the Frieza from one timeline wanting to make a wish so badly but cant if the Earth was destroyed then learns of a way to time travel ending up in the main timeline where he eventually encounters himself and learns golden form. Now Goku and Vegeta have to deal with 2 Golden Friezas. Maybe the Frieza from the main time line remembers Vegito briefly mentioning fusion and wonders if maybe he could then fuse with the other Frieza, maybe heading back to their own planet or something (if he has a main planet, would be cool to finally see it if he did) to see if their is such a technique exclusive to their race.
“Hold your fire! This man isn’t black!” Meme : very poor choice of words! Lmao I nearly busted up laughing At work
They ment to add that joke there
Bruh I'm watching this at work rn 😂
"Everybody is a Racist Some of the time."
@Obeydia Fire please explain
@Obeydia Fire you’re either implying they are a superior race or are pulling a frieza by saying they’re monkeys
the seven cell jr's are still alive,currently living on 17's island.
That art 10 seconds in with all the villains is absolutely beautiful
Even Evil Vegeta
It always pops me whenever LSM says “what if I told you” and it always shows Morpheus 🤣
5:00 Unseen timeline could have an interesting conflict where Cell is forced to become the hero and fight boo
If he became perfect (he could force someone to rebuild the robots), he wouldn't necessarily need to kill people and the cells of the Z fighters may have incentivized him to take the place of the Z-fighters both for the thrill of battle and for the good personality of most of his code
Great topic and video man. I’ve been watching you for 4 years now and I can see you haven’t lost a step. Keep up the good work!!!
People be always seeking stuff behind dragonball stories. While dude literally said: Goten didn't have a tail because I forgot about it. Touriyama never layers the universe like that himself, its basicly all fan philosophy. Which is cool, its just forever all non canon. Touriyama never built the story to be dissected like that.
Hold your fire this man isnt black
Gero's computer stopped collecting data before Namek and Gero was the one collecting cells. He never lived enough to get Buu's cells. Also...Buu never came back to life if there's no Goku, Gohan or Vegeta .
Protip: If you listen closely, Zamasu's u is silent, so it's actually just "Zamas"
Wow u really did my girl chi chi dirty
You say that as if that's something no one has done before😑
Yeah ChiChi is just so unfairly hated by the fandom
@@craigpeoples9883 ik
@Inflicted Spartan no one is to blame except goku for being a shit husband
@@Anthony-nm7cu He is a good father to both of his sons, plus I dont think a husband that shitty would get angry at the hearing the death of his wife and second son killed by Zamasu in a different timeline. If you think about it Bardock(Goku`s father) isn`t that much around Gine(Goku`s mother) he is mostly away somewhere in another planet , so I guess being a battle hardened saiyan would also go to Goku which just makes both Bardock and Goku just go off fighting or training. So in my opinion both Bardock and Goku just likes to protect the ones they love, Bardock died confronting Frieza and knowing he saved his youngest son Kakarot and Goku he died multiple times just to save his friends and family, just cause he died doesn`t mean he does not care about his wife and son after he died in the Cell Saga.
Anyway have a great day/night.
I'm still mad that Cell didn't return in the main timeline. Vegeta is a good guy, Frieza is....Frieza, and Majin Buu gets away with being a lobotomized man child. Cell just stays dead.
He was just Too Perfect
Even Goku knows not to let Cell come back. If he gets the formula for the Krabby Patty....
@@whitworth5s248 agree to merge franchises with him you get his tech and he gets some of your profits
Well, you kinda got your wish.
What was the original music you use a couple of years of ago
1:54 this logic no longer applies due to super and it being weird with whis' time travel shenanigans
Original Timeline: In Chaos (U7 could possibly be erased by Zeno)
Trunks' Timeline: Error 404
Main Timeline: Vibin' with Moro right now
U12 Time Traveler: Probably where Goku Black started so U12 be vibin' with black
Timeline Trunks went to: Probably Vibin' with 2 different versions of trunks
How about the timeline, where black came from?
So pretty much all of them.... there is a timeline for every situation so there is a timeline when every villain survived even raditz amazingly enough
i agree friezia has stayed around for to long and really needs to be killed off for good, i mean our heroes let him go at the end of the broly film and was last seen conquering a planet.
That ticks me off too, I know he’s not that much of a threat to them anymore.But he’s still a threat to the galaxy.🤦🏾♂️
@@tonyeharrison1899 I mean he is a threat to earth as well, no one but Goku, Vegeta and Beerus and Whis can stop him, so frieza could his attack right he could take out earth and vanish before they ever came to it's aid. Yeah Goku might let him go as he wants a strong opponent (i hate Super Goku) Vegeta i can't see him letting Frieza live after he pulled that Broly stunt off.
I mean Goku in DBZ was going to end frieza and did, but now in Super he won't kill him. It is just wrong and i feel like the writers just keep frieza around to milk him like the cash cow he is.
HistoryFan476ad Totally agree with you in this video. At this point Frieza’s basically just going to be the team rocket of the anime. And I also hate super Goku due to those reasons as well
@@tonyeharrison1899 Controversial Opinion here but i would rather the show Ended with Z and GT and Super never was made. Have battle of gods as a one off film.
HistoryFan476ad I also think It should’ve ended with Z/Z Kai. The movie I’m indifferent about
Always love your content man. I don't have much time to have these sorts of discussions in real life. So I'm glad I can still have them online.
I dont know why, but the video title feels like a breaking news headline.
Like somehow, we need to be worried that they are alive, and they may be in your city. lmao
Dbs’s writing is so whack I’m suprised they haven’t brought the dead villains to life in a war arc yet
Shots fired🤣
that’d be a really interesting arc to see in dbs. it’s not a very original concept considering naruto shippuden did that kind of arc first but nonetheless i’d love to see it in dbs.
No cap that would be awesome tbh
@@LegoMarioDude1
"really interesting arc" jesus dude
calamorta ?
Loving the edits!
There's probably a timeline where Dodoria and Zarbon teamed up to take down Vegeta. Imagine how much that changes the timeline too
That Cell theory/version is very good! Congrats!
Love the videos Laughingstock Media
Love these videos because they get me thinking about interesting possibilities and scenarios Super could use.
1.Caulifla black & bebi kale exist as
Alter version and girl villians of
Bebi vegeta and goku black.
2.Zangya ditched bojack and gohan
On earth and
Conquered the yardrats and became
Their cruel ruthless queen.
3.tiencha fusion defeated spopvich and yamu.
4.radtiz Became good hooked up with launch Now have ranch daikon and muli
Like masako X on UA-cam .
5.Janemba is sky blue and silver
Instead of red and purple.
6.Gohan, kid trunks and goten defeat garlic jr for his 3rd return ,
7.cooler killed frieza and goku on namek,vegeta got his immortality wish
8.Pan became a super saiyan .
9 right before cell kills future trunks
In a last ditch effort and screw you to
Cell he sent his time machine back
To king vegeta's time and now king vegeta has it although I'd doubt he
Would know how to use it .
10. Goten and kid trunks replace goku
And vegeta as the main characters but
They cone out of retirement when
Goten and trunks cannot get the job done.
Ideas and thoughts I had .
Yeeeeeeee new videos from you always make my day better
Your Simpson and Joker edits had me dying laughing 😂
A very intriguing topic, to say the least.
This is so true, but they really do leave stuff in the past but i'd be delighted and shocked to see zamasu or cell return to the modern world Dragonball is now with God Ki Gods, Angels etc. Who knows how strong he'd be
With angels there shouldn't ne a present or a future
@@iceesrule75 I don't see how the angels would affect time, Whis only rewinded time in the Goku Black arc. It wouldn't affect anything more than Trunks time machine there's only two other time lines besides the main one.
@@Selloutstudios69 Its kinda stupid that another Zeno was summoned in that timeline there should only be one
Interesting points on Cell in that unseen timeline. That Cell could potentially be a possibility in bringing him back from the dead to fight the Z fighters, and as you said a fucking overpowered form, makes more sense then Frieza 4 months training being initial blue tier lol.
This just proves more how Convoluted Time travel has made db smh. Good video though.
You can't talk about the complicated history of Trunks and Cell without turning into "Science Man Explains Terminator"
I like that you included the movies and GT
I love the little dig at the youtube algorithm
The Trunk-less timeline is a really screwed one, damn. Shin with no help gets defeated by Dabura, thus Beerus ceases to exist. Buu gets revived from the Earth population alone and assuming they leave the planet without destroying it the surviving Earthlings will face a much, much stronger Cell. Since the androids weren't of this world anymore, while he was still being worked on he'd probably get Perfect as his default and have Shin, Dabura and Buu's DNA within him. And then there's Moro, who might encounter Buu and easily absorb his powers. Broly would have been all alone since Paragus inevitable death of old age, no doubt he'd have unlocked his wrathful or even his super saiyan form that day. What happens next is really hard to say. Cell, Moro or Broly might be made a GoD candidate by the Grand Priest to replace Beerus. I could really see any of them being granted that status. Depending on who gets the job, the story would change drastically.
What if GT is the unseen timeline? Explaining all the style changes
Hmmmmmm, I've seen a lot more sass from you lately. Also, OOOOOOOH, Spicy youtube commentary!!!!!
4:59 its not likely that babidi would have ressurected buu on earth but maybe on brolys planet in the original timeline as
they needed something arounf ssj2 level in order to fill the tank way quicker
I tried explaining this out years ago to friends but they couldn't understand what I was saying.
Damn the original timeline where all the heroes are basically dead sounds mad depressing
Not gonna lie, at first this made the timelines more confusing for me but coming back months later and drawing it out on paper made it a lot easier to understand
🤔🤔🤔Wait, so when this have meant that they were two different trunks going to the present timeline. The one that cell killed, is a completely different trunks. And he was going to the present timeline. as well as a trunk who gave Goku the cure. So it’s two of them.
Somewhere, out there, Galric Jr. escaped the DeadZone.
Imagine a timeline where Vegeta and cell team up to defeat the evil tyrant goku.
Didn't Buu need a lot of fighting energy spent by others to revive? Without warriors on the planet who would fight? Would Babidi try to force 17 and 18 to fight over and over until the bar ticked over, like grinding EXP in a game where you forgot to do so right before some boss fight and you only have low level random encounters to gain EXP with lol
Moro 4 years ago is crazy
Love the video as always Mike keep up the great work!!
Trying to figure out timelines in dbz is impossible. I was already confused 3 minutes into the video
he doesn't get it right with the fells and trunks. even though there are 4 timeliness there are only two of each of them
I wanna know how Goku black and Zamasu managed to defeat Jiren
I thought Goku Black and Zamasu only killed all mortals in Universe 7. I find it hard to believe that they would last a day in Universe 11
@@TheUncivilizedNation merged zamasu might
@@TheUncivilizedNation all mortals yes ,but Goku Black said that he killed all the gods of the other universes,so he can have his fun without pesky Destroyers coming to stop him
If you think about it, there should be a second Cell in Trunks's timeline. He went back to the past of his own world, right? And that's when things started to diverge from the history he knew? But when he got to the past, Cell had already been there for a year. So what happened to the time-travelling Cell in the timeline where Trunks never showed up?
The coordinates was already set for that particular timeline Trunks went to in the first place... Cell just went 1 year further than Trunks did when he time traveled to give Goku the medicine
Why didn’t Future Trunks travel to Namek to ask Porunga to bring back Kami/Piccolo? That would be they Deus Ex-machina for his timeline
only Goku had knowledge of the location of new namek. and he only knows thanks to instant transmission and the ability to locate lifeforms across the universe. pretty sure new namek is in a location not meant to be found to prevent another frieza fiasco.
Goku in the trunks timeline *Dies*
Goku *Saves trunks timeline anyways*
It gets complicated with villains after the cell saga since a lot of them might’ve traveled to space heaven and fought goku in space valhalla
Oh my god I am only two minutes in and I am already going cross-eyed.
What do you mean?
@@marlborosweedoldenglish32 meaning I am confused obviously. Like I get it but when someone explains it in depth, my eyes go cross-eyed.
@@mortalballgt52 yep
This video was masterful.
Good Lord, that Gotube commentary was gold! Lol
you missed one cell, the one created when future trunks comes back the first time creating the main timeline. since cell was already there it got divided into the main timeline that we see but that means that he is in the future trunks timeline as well, so what happens to him did the androids kill him? he hid and was the one that trunks kill at the end or was that the one in the lab?
Think Garlic Junior was only one that wasn’t killed just sent to the dead zone
He ain't coming back. He's considered gone lol.
Lovecraftian spookiness
I subscribed, I really like your videos and the way to think. You do a great job dude, and thanks for that.
So the unseen timeline that you mentioned is the timeline where cell killed future trunks and stole his time machine, right?
That's the one, Cell's Trunks went to an alternate timeliness in which he and the Z FIghters defeated Android 17 and 18 without using the time chamber.
The Trunks who was killed by Cell never helped the others defeat the Androids. That’s just something that guide made up that was later removed in future guides bc it didn’t make sense. Trunks was gonna go back 3 years. I know Trunks said it landed 4 but Piccolo said 3 which makes more sense with the idea of him wanting to come back to tell them he won. If he went back 3 it would have been shortly after his first trip.
You know... Thinking about it, if Cell was left to his own devices I could see him getting brutally overpowered considered he has Goku's progress ethic+Frieza's instant win genes along with his ridiculous powers... Heck, I mean he can make training partners of similar power to himself!... So it's not like he will somehow have stunted growth from unworthy opponents.
I would like to see a special showing if Cell won. What would he do? How strong would he get? Would he even still be evil or would he mellow out now that the checklist of "become perfect" and "kill Goku" is done? (not saying he'd be good, but I could see him mellowing out over time and not being "as evil" or even going neutral after getting bored) He's just a cool character with neat possibilities and tons of potential.
Dragon ball should have a series that talks about the different timelines, something like what if from marvel
FINALLY, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP ZAMSU!!!
Moro "drained Trunks faster than Mai ever could". I see what you did there. Well played.
We all secretly know that if anyone time travelled before Trunks it was master Roshi. That happened...
Unseen timeline or timeline 4
Is a repeat of timeline 1 .
Due to goku black and zamasu
The main timeline or timeline 1
Was split in 2 due to the time ring .
Then because of the other time rings
There is a time line 5 and time line 6 .
Future trunks and future mai went to
Time line 6 to warn that beerus and live
Along side their counter parts .
What I dont understand is why didnt
Future trunks go to timeline 3
Since that future bulma should still be alive..... also since they used future cells
Time machine shouldn't they have gone
To time line 3 instead of timeline 2 ?
you're mistaken - timeline 4 was created by Timeline 3 because Trunk from timeline 3 was killed by Cell. So two things either happened in Timeline 4 either there was Cell games without Trunks because Trunks was killed before he had the chance to return with knowledge on how to defeat Androids or Cell never showed up. However, Cell would probably still show just from another timeline most likely timeline 5 meaning Trunks from timeline 3 appeared in Timeline 4 - Timeline 4 is the unseen timeline and timeline 5 is the unknown timeline - making 6 Black's timeline and 7 the new Future Trunks timeline. There were four green Time Rings - the Green Time Rings are alternate timeline while main timeline which is timeline 1 are has a silver or grey Time Ring. meaning that was 5 timelines at the time of the introduction of the Time Rings. After fused Zamasu's death - there was only six because Future Trunks's timeline was destroyed.
@@BlakeSmith17
What I dont understand is
Cell time machine why didnt it
Take future trunks ,goku and vegeta
To timeline 3 instead of timeline 2 ,
Possibly for plot purposes ?
@@Lupo32 they probably had some kind of control over the destination or just an oversight on the plot. Maybe they had help as it was mention that only a select few deities can manipulate time which seems like a Chronoa reference (Chronoa is the name of the Supreme Kai of Time for anyone that may not know).
@@BlakeSmith17
The whole dragonball series is
Full of plot holes and inconsistencies.
There are total of 4 Cell & Zamasu out of all these timelines where 1 of them still existed in an alternate timeline. We already saw 4 Android 17 combined in both DBZ, DBS, & DB GT altogether and could be one or two more of him if he still existed in another alternate timeline version.
@2:23
Nailed it.
With the thumbnail, I thought it was going to be a what-if where one of the cell jrs escaped
"Hold your fire! This man isn't Black!" Bro that was funny asl!
When they ask why they didn’t disappear beacuse of beerus hakai , goku black explains his time ring won’t ulter it to happen and zamasu of trunks timeline can’t be erase because he is immortal thus this concludes that alternative timelines has no zamasu which made it to create another ring
Good, creative topic for a video!
7:08 "why does this sound familiar" I don't know what you're talkin about
4th timeline cell would always be Imperfect because of loss of the Androids which is the coolest form of Cell imo maybe without a directive he would join the Z fighters in that form would be an interesting what if scenario
IN regards to there being two Trunks in that timeline... that other time machine that Bulma gave them after Black destroyed the original, was the time machine that CELL USED. I think Whis was lying to Future Trunks when he said he'd have to live among him and Mai's doubles . I think Whis actually took Trunks back to his original Timeline.
10:25 Hope not! So tired of seeing the same characters only because of Nostalgia sells
Interesting man
I highly doubt we'll see any of the alternate timelines at this point. They already did an alternate timeline story with the Goku Black arc, and I doubt they're going to go deeper into that. The timelines of Trunks's futures are a big rabbit hole that I don't think anyone wants to go down. Plus, it would be sorta pointless to rehash a bunch of old villains (I don't even know why they keep doing it with Frieza)
2:14 is the reason Rick n Morty dont do time travel..
This also means that toriama never said GT wasn't Canon but it was just an alternate timeline meaning GT can very well take place in one of these alternate timelines after the end of z and then dragon Ball super could have taken away the origins of Goku for what is said in super and also changing the end of z for whatever will happen next
I personally snd specifically belive that the time line where all of the z movies ( not including battel of gods and resurrection f) are canon is a timeline where beerus dosent wake up, and GT is the result of that
I think Buu was revived with the unseen timeline.. Cell would've been dead because the destruction of the earth. Zamasu would've probably still been disgusted with mortals.. since he had a hatred and doubt about the mortals. Zamasu would feel indifferent and probably hate Buu for the destruction that Buu would've cause to universe 7 and Zeno would've probably erased everything in Universe 7 anyway since the extremely low mortal count. Which would have a ripple effect of Zeno destroying other universes such like universe 6 (in the manga) and universe 9 (in both). If Zeno really wanted to he could wipe out half the universe which barley have universe 2 and universe 11 surviving and on notice. Zamasu would've been erased without being notice. Same with Moro.
Somewhere in the alternate timeline Piccolo and Goku were never friends and Piccolo manage to rule the world like his father.
It makes sense because in super there was 4 rings plus one with trunks come back again from the future again