Is the American Church the Best Church? | Fr. Patrick Briscoe & Fr. Gregory Pine
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Is the American Church the Best Church? | Fr. Patrick Briscoe & Fr. Gregory Pine
Fireworks. Bald eagles. Liberty. Freedom. Stars & stripes. Is the American Church the best church?
On this week's episode of Godsplaining, Fr. Patrick and Fr. Gregory discuss Fr. Gregory's experience living outside of the United States, the virtues we have in the American Church, the role of Christ in culture, how the American Church is viewed by the rest of the world, signs of Catholic life, and more.
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Thank you Fathers, from New Zealand. So much great Catholic stuff is coming from America. God bless you always!
How wonderful are these two men? Thank you, God, for these priests🙏🏼
Know of prayers for you all… and that I’m 😂 way too much as usual watching. See you next year!
Das war hilfreich! Dankeschön. Ich bin als Euroäer sicher in der Minderheit, weil ich die amerikanische Art echt mag. Bis auf die Supermärkte, ich mag unsere Hochgeschwindigkeits-Kassiere, die keine Anstalten machen jemanden auch nur einen schönen Tag zu wünschen. "43,96. Karte?" Reicht völlig für ein gutes Einkaufserlebnis.
Aber um zum Thema beizutragen, ich denke, der nachkoziliare "Bildersturm" und die oft eben auch von der europäischen Kirche selber geforderte Aufgabe von Traditionen, hat seine eigentliche Wurzel in den beiden Weltkriegen.
Ich weiß, dass ist sehr deutsch. Wir machen gerne den Krieg für alles verantwortlich. Dennoch denke ich, dass nach dem Krieg nicht nur der Schock über das Ausmaß der Zerstörung und die Zahl der Opfer auf allen Seiten, trotz aller anderslautenden Bekundungen, nicht hoch genug eingeschätzt wird. Und das neben diesem Schock auch noch ein zweiter sich in der Psyche festsetzte, nämlich, dass die Kirche nicht funktioniert hat. Die Kirche ist weder die gegen die philosophischen und ideologischen Verwerfungen angekommen, noch geben die brachiale Gewalt mit der moralische Grundsätze im Alltag über Bord geworfen wurden. Die Frage wie Auschwitz in einem Land passieren konnte, in dem 94,5% der Bevölkerung ganz offiziell in einer der beiden großen Konfessionen registriert waren, wurde für viele Menschen einfach nicht überzeugend beantwortet.
Ich bin zu einer ähnlichen Erkenntnis gekommen, die beiden Weltkriege haben dem Abendland das Rückgrat gebrochen
Thank you Fr. Patrick. Thank you Fr. Gregory. Great show as always.
Gents - Big fan of Bl. Stan Rother here. God willing, he can fill that 1st US male saint spot. Put in a good for him. ;-)
Good day Friars Briscoe and Pine USA do produced awesome priests because of the Irish roots Ireland being the land of Saints and Scholars God bless from Australia
The way I'd put it is, the American spirit is a frontier spirit. Americans don't share ancestry the way Europeans do; rather, our shared heritage can be found in the experience (either personal or near-familial) of leaving the homeland of one's ancestors behind in active pursuit of something better.
Permanent cultural artifacts make sense in cultures founded on stability; they make little sense in cultures founded on improvement. America has incredible cultural artifacts, but the ones it puts the most effort into are the ones it exposes to the greatest danger and fully intends to surpass as quickly as possible.
With that said, frontier cultures require stable cultures from which they can sally forth and to which they can return. Without such an external source of stability, they're liable to become completely detached from reality and good sense.
Europe used to fill that role for America. But Europe's stability degraded into stagnation when WWII left it convinced that nationalism was the gravest possible cultural sin and that caring too much about one's culture was at least highly suspect.
And that means the US probably needs a solid Church more than anyone, because it has neither internal nor external sources of stability at the moment.
A "classical" school, which is another "new" thing... :)
Them: "Americanism is a heresy!"
Me: "Only *364* days of the year it is"
What is that stack of 8 colored books that is visible when the camera is on Fr. Gregory Pine?
Cool video
...and I LOVE the way none of you ever finishes a sentence with a preposition!!!n 😃😃😃
Bonjour Frère Patrick and Frère Gregory,
I just wondered, should Fr Bonaventure decide to stay in Poland (as he has a great devotion to St Faustina). You might need to find another brother to replace him for the retreat in August (for men only).
God bless you and all our Dominican family.
The link provided did not seem to provide any information about the men's retreat in August; is there a secret panel behind which to look?
Hi, there! The link takes you to our website, then from there scroll over 'events' at the top and you'll see the retreat entitled, "Saving Stoicism and the Struggle for Real Virtue". Hope to see you there!
The US has no culture, so the Church is my culture.
A collection of is not none.
Confused and confusing
The idea of the American church being the best Church is quite humorous, given the USCCB is abandoning the Gospels in favor of ideology and rich donors.
And the European Church has remained faithful to the Gospel?
The Church in the United States’ relationship with money and power is no more complicated than that found elsewhere. In fact, I would say that it is plainly more problematic in countries like Germany, where the ecclesial hierarchy supports depriving the sacraments from Catholics who opt out of the state administered church tax, to say nothing of their attempts to legitimize heresy. Similar statements can be made regarding the Church in France, Spain, Italy, Poland, etc.
Suffice it to say, the Church in the United Stated has catechismal and college ministry apostolates and infrastructure far beyond what is seen in Europe, our seminaries are in better shape and more uniformly orthodox in their formation, and the state of the celebration of the liturgy is without rival in the developed world(although there’s still a lot of work to do in regards to all of these topics and others).