Mad minute: The M 1866 Wänzl rifle

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  • Fast firing the first breech loading rifle of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. Dedicated to Bloke on the Range and Britishmuzzleloaders
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 211

  • @Charon-5582
    @Charon-5582 2 роки тому +72

    I find these trapdoor style actions very cool and this mad minute was very impressive.

  • @britishmuzzleloaders
    @britishmuzzleloaders 2 роки тому +41

    Awesome! Nice smooth handling and good solid drills. As the Chap eluded to, very similar to the Snider with the hammer and breech operation. A great addition to the series. Love it.,... And...... a very kind shout out to both Channels. 😀

  • @thebotrchap
    @thebotrchap 2 роки тому +128

    Fantastic run! 8rnds puts it level with the Snider which is no surprise since the loading and unloading is near identical. I’m sure you will do 10-12rnds with the Werndl.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 роки тому +21

      He maintained the tradition of the cleaning rod walking out too.

    • @thebotrchap
      @thebotrchap 2 роки тому +8

      @@jic1 Yes, made me giggle 🤭

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +19

      Thanks, when I was shooting I felt it quite quick, but reviewing it it seems awfully slow. We'll see what I can do with the Werndl.

    • @Charon-5582
      @Charon-5582 2 роки тому +2

      @@capandball might be the ammo pouch flap that slows you down a bit...

    • @marcusott2973
      @marcusott2973 2 роки тому +6

      I'd love to film a walk and talk with you two in Heeresgeschichtliches Museum in Vienna. So much weird and wonderful stuff in display cases that nobody talks about.

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 2 роки тому +21

    That's what I love about the swell on the ramrod for the US Springfield's 1855-1873. They don't work forward like on the British Enfield's while rapid firing. Once again another rare firearm for an American to see let alone watch being fired. Bloke on the Range and British Muzzleloaders is what brought me to your channel. 👍👍

  • @jamessulzer5105
    @jamessulzer5105 2 роки тому +16

    Amazing! I'm not sure if I could do that with my Springfield trapdoor 50-70! Next time at the range I'll give it a try.

  • @Mis-AdventureCH
    @Mis-AdventureCH 2 роки тому +8

    That's a nice run. Didn't strike me that it had a very efficient ejector, so that's going to slow things way down. Nice little gun.

  • @leighrate
    @leighrate 2 роки тому +8

    When you consider that a trained rifleman, using a.muzzel loader could perhaps manage four rounds, that is devastatingly fast.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 2 роки тому +1

      The standard for Civil War infantry was 3 aimed shots in a minute.

  • @marioradovcic7419
    @marioradovcic7419 2 роки тому +21

    What's up with the huge output of content lately? Very nice.
    Also, impatiently waiting for the arquebus.

    • @blueband8114
      @blueband8114 2 роки тому +1

      The more the better.

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +10

      Last year was very-very busy: we had a hunting Wolrd expo in Budapest, and i was the head of the pavilion respo nsible for displaying traditional hunting methods. that project consumed my time.

    • @marioradovcic7419
      @marioradovcic7419 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the explanation. I will also soon get around to ordering your book on military muskets

  • @danielomar9712
    @danielomar9712 2 роки тому +1

    The noise it makes is... Phew
    Amazing

  • @richardcolligon4277
    @richardcolligon4277 2 роки тому +6

    I always love your content! It's a lot more fun shooting the single shot rifle's and pistol's. I love the antique firearm's, and for shooting I love Pedersoli.

  • @woodsmanforlife1677
    @woodsmanforlife1677 2 роки тому +5

    I can hear the Austro-Hungarian bureaucrats of that time complaining about the cost of ammunition by 8 shots/minute.

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 2 роки тому +1

      Well they adopted it pretty quickly, after getting whupped by the Prussians, in a war that only ended, the summer, of that same year. They may have been looking to replace the Lorenz before that war, but nothing like a bad experience to get your butt in gear.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 2 роки тому

      Actually i have a book that mentions that officialy they reckoned a trained soldier could fire up to 18 shots a minute. So they did anticipate even higher costs. ;-)

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +1

      Cases were reloaded 6 times: 3 times for live practice rounds and 3 times for practice blanks.

  • @1248dl
    @1248dl 2 роки тому +3

    Hot dog! That looks like you had a good time. The two you are competing with do that "Mad Minute" as a standard exercise. If you get close, you're fantastically skilled. Good job!

  • @movingwater7312
    @movingwater7312 2 роки тому +2

    watching you fire this rifle, i realize that manual rotating bolt is truly a revolution.

  • @Anon.Emouse
    @Anon.Emouse 2 роки тому +2

    The sounds and rhythm during the mad minute remind me of the intro in Pink Floyd's "Money".

  • @JoeMac1983
    @JoeMac1983 2 роки тому +16

    8 shots per minute? Sounds like it qualifies as a semi-automatic in most European countries 😉 Awesome video brother!

  • @stuartbennett7614
    @stuartbennett7614 2 роки тому +1

    Good work slick drills and a pretty little rifle too huzzah.

  • @cyberretard2192
    @cyberretard2192 2 роки тому +19

    I think this rifle would have much higher fire rate if it had the extractor like on Springfield Trapdoor, for instance. It is still interesting anyway

    • @ihcfn
      @ihcfn 2 роки тому

      Was thinking it needs an extractor.

  • @USAFreewayROTF
    @USAFreewayROTF 2 роки тому

    Guns are amazing. I love seeing old rifles at work.

  • @STMwoodturning
    @STMwoodturning 2 роки тому +1

    So fun to see three great You Tubers have a friendly competition!

  • @flash7355
    @flash7355 2 роки тому +3

    Very cool and also interesting to see the rate of fire.

  • @carydagnese5484
    @carydagnese5484 2 роки тому

    I have this same rifle before the cartridge conversion was done from the muzzle loader. Many of these were imported for use in the American Civil War in 1861 as a musket muzzle loaders.

  • @paulsly7246
    @paulsly7246 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like you had some fun there.Not a bad grouping with only one on the far left edge of the ring.Looking forward to a showdown of the breechloaders.thanks for sharing.

  • @PenDragonsPig
    @PenDragonsPig 2 роки тому +1

    That was excellent shooting and a nifty looking gun. Wonderful channel as well.

  • @sablin819
    @sablin819 2 роки тому

    has to be the most satisfying reload in the 19th century

  • @SlickSixguns
    @SlickSixguns 2 роки тому

    Very nice more mad minutes please

  • @Mag_Aoidh
    @Mag_Aoidh 2 роки тому +1

    I have an original 1860 (860) model 1854. It’s not in the greatest shape but I have enjoyed your videos so much.

  • @robertburnston6586
    @robertburnston6586 2 роки тому +1

    An interesting video. Thank you.

  • @davepeters4955
    @davepeters4955 2 роки тому

    Nice! The countdown timer in the corner was a nice touch.

  • @alenofbellwood
    @alenofbellwood 2 роки тому

    8 shots, and all in the black. Fine work sir.

  • @cameronmccreary4758
    @cameronmccreary4758 2 роки тому +1

    Very good shooting for one minute. Nice rifle.

  • @lolgamer8232
    @lolgamer8232 Рік тому

    Yo, 8 months later. I'm new to the channel and you're marksmanship is very good. You've earned a subscriber

  • @YerluvinunclePete
    @YerluvinunclePete 2 роки тому

    Woot! I've been eagerly waiting for you to get a rifle into this test!

  • @scipio10000
    @scipio10000 2 роки тому +1

    We need a Carcano 1860/67 and a single shot Italian Vetterli contender. @SBAM where art thou?

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 2 роки тому +1

    8 shots per minute from any breech loaded single shot is more than respectable... >~< All in the black, superb... ^~^

  • @lairdcummings9092
    @lairdcummings9092 2 роки тому

    "let the fun begin"
    Damn straight, that looked like a LOT of fun!

  • @Navyuncle
    @Navyuncle 2 роки тому

    Son, I didn't know that you had a PhD in History. That reminds me of my collage days. One of the professors was in my physical education class. We were in the archery range. I (student) had to show the professor (PhD) how to shoot a compound bow.

  • @bored383
    @bored383 2 роки тому

    I love crossover content like this! kudos to you all!

  • @randyadams03
    @randyadams03 2 роки тому

    Beautiful rifle, thank you C&B

  • @atune2682
    @atune2682 2 роки тому +1

    epic vid!

  • @christopherowens5040
    @christopherowens5040 2 роки тому

    Good shooting, C&B. Every shot the ramrod bumped out further from the muzzle. Have to be careful not to lose it in the field.

  • @billskinner623
    @billskinner623 2 роки тому

    Awesome. Not only 8 shots, but they're also all in the black.

  • @thumbsquatch3882
    @thumbsquatch3882 2 роки тому

    Schweet. Think I'll take the ol springfield to the range today. Thanks for sharing!

  • @zacherymooney
    @zacherymooney 9 місяців тому

    Beautiful rifle

  • @johnarmstrong1601
    @johnarmstrong1601 2 роки тому

    AHHHH BEAUTIFUL MUSIC

  • @DaHansWars
    @DaHansWars 2 роки тому +2

    Such a pretty little rifle.

  • @SagebrushLongshots
    @SagebrushLongshots 2 роки тому

    Outstanding. Thank you.

  • @chasetower6773
    @chasetower6773 2 роки тому

    Thanks again

  • @jeffadams9807
    @jeffadams9807 2 роки тому +1

    Reminds Me Of The U.S Springfield Trapdoor 45-70...

  • @rishabhsharma6112
    @rishabhsharma6112 2 роки тому

    Beautiful rifle and very good aim

  • @curtforeman9014
    @curtforeman9014 2 роки тому

    That was awesome!

  • @bunkstagner298
    @bunkstagner298 2 роки тому

    That was fun and I will bet you could warm your breakfast on that barrel and pretty good shooting for fast work.

  • @tgill1963
    @tgill1963 2 роки тому

    Nice job! That was fun to watch.

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 2 роки тому

    Nice display!

  • @DavidMihaelovich
    @DavidMihaelovich 2 роки тому

    Jó a tartalom és a kutya is aranyos! Üdv Budapestről!

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 2 роки тому +2

    I did a double take as when I clicked I expected to see The Chap shooting! Lovely video, glad you shoot to the same format as The Chap to make comparisons possible. Your last shot must have given you great satisfaction!!! Oh and love your dog!

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +2

      I love my dog as well, but not today. She just destroyed my gloves :)

  • @saboningm
    @saboningm 2 роки тому +2

    8 tiros genial 🇦🇷🇦🇷👍👍

  • @Kaylielffxi
    @Kaylielffxi 2 роки тому

    Very nice!

  • @swampfox5329
    @swampfox5329 2 роки тому

    Loved it.

  • @njhoepner
    @njhoepner 2 роки тому

    Seems very similar to the U.S. 1867 Allin trapdoor modification of the 1863 Springfield rifle...except the Springfield had an automatic ejector for the shell casing, the Wanzl seems to require manual extraction, which clearly slows down the action.

  • @ProSimex84
    @ProSimex84 2 роки тому +3

    Huzzah!

  • @strongback6550
    @strongback6550 2 роки тому

    I am distracted by the dog in spite of the uncommon nature of such a weapon

  • @shaunault7538
    @shaunault7538 2 роки тому

    My buddy got same rifle as u an only got 9 rds in so likeu said its 8rd a min gun a few very few might get 9 but we our with u buddy a 8 rd a minute gun very nice shooting u did

  • @coleparker
    @coleparker 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to see it compared to the Springfield Trapdoor rifle.

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 2 роки тому

    Video and videos series suggestions I have,
    The sharps model 1959,
    The gewher 98 rifle.
    The evolution of the Winchester repeating rifle from the Henry rifle to the 95 especially the rifle muskets.

  • @user-go7zj4lt7v
    @user-go7zj4lt7v 2 роки тому +1

    Прекрасное ,элегантное оружие и замечательный охотник!!!!

  • @AbananaPEEl
    @AbananaPEEl 2 роки тому

    Dont have much to say but love your videos and want to leave a comment to help with engagement

  • @highonimmi
    @highonimmi 2 роки тому

    i love trapdoors! my fave pre-clip multi load load rifle. this was very impressive. i wonder how hot the chamber got firing that mad minute...

  • @wattyler9806
    @wattyler9806 2 роки тому

    Brilliant.

  • @loupuleff571
    @loupuleff571 2 роки тому

    good shooting !!

  • @Rumblestrip
    @Rumblestrip 2 роки тому +1

    Well done. Cant help thinking the Springfield Trapdoor might be a smidgen faster due to its heavy ejector spring.

    • @ProSimex84
      @ProSimex84 2 роки тому +1

      I was just thinking that this seems a bit slower then the Snyder Enfield just due to ejection issues.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 роки тому +1

      @@ProSimex84 The Snider-Enfield didn't have an ejector either.

    • @ProSimex84
      @ProSimex84 2 роки тому +1

      @@jic1 you're right, Britishmuzzeloaders just makes it look easy.

    • @Rumblestrip
      @Rumblestrip 2 роки тому

      The schnider extractor id think would be the same. Definitely interesting to see this competition.... Makes me wish i had the time to use one of my original trapdoors and throw my hat in the ring lol. Like to see how id do with either of my 1873 models.

  • @Bayan1905
    @Bayan1905 2 роки тому

    I wonder if anyone has ever done a mad minute with an 1871 Mauser rifle? I need to find more brass for mine. Love these old single shot rifles, and especially something like the 1866 Wanzl, we don't see those very often here in the states.

  • @miroslavmarsik5833
    @miroslavmarsik5833 2 роки тому +1

    Moc pěkná.Mám stejnou v perfektním stavu ale nikdy jsem si z toho nevystřelil.Má to okrajový zápal a muselo by se to předělávat.

  • @astridvallati4762
    @astridvallati4762 2 роки тому +2

    It looks like a Stutzen or ExtraKorps Gewehr rather that the Full lenght Gewehr. I have Two original Rimfire versions, and the designs to make a lathe- turned case with offset priming hole at the rim, to take an RWS .22 Short Blank. The only time slowing is to centre the Primer in line with the Off set Rimfire Firing Pin.
    A method for speeding up loading is a cross- body bandoleer, and gripping 3 ( or 2) cartridges with the Left Hand Fingers; a technique used by Double Rifle Hunters in Africa...quick reload when shooting dangerous game. Three cartridges can also be pulled from the bandoleer with the Left hand as well.
    Any way, an excellent Demonstration.
    Others to try are Guedes, Albini, Werder, Werndl, Krnca,( Krenk) and French Tabatiere, and of course American Springfield Trapdoor and Remington Rolling block .
    DocAV Australia

  • @rslover65
    @rslover65 2 роки тому

    Such great old guns. I wish these were more common in the U.S.

  • @mtkn744
    @mtkn744 2 роки тому +1

    I'm pretty sure, this Guy is rich af. But he is a good normal guy

  • @rogerjclarke
    @rogerjclarke 2 роки тому

    Very interesting

  • @crook7493
    @crook7493 2 роки тому

    You remind me of Aberama Gold from the show Peaky Blinders, and i can't really explain why

  • @davefellhoelter1343
    @davefellhoelter1343 2 роки тому

    Agee! all you guys do GREAT WORK and I never miss a chance to watch!
    By the way not to sure about getting beet? That was 8 shots ON Target!

  • @willf5768
    @willf5768 2 роки тому +1

    You looked like you were having to much fun with that one😁👍👍👍👍👍 Try that with the 45-70 Springfield rifle 😁

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +1

      I have excess to one!

    • @willf5768
      @willf5768 2 роки тому

      @@capandball Ive owned a few different variants and a freind and I had a little competition shoot at the range shooting gong targets at a hundred yards we took turns shooting and the loser would be the one that missed. We shot 50 rounds each and gave up those metal butt plates are a killer 😖

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 2 роки тому

    That is a healthy slug. Surprised that there isn't more charge behind it. Still, pretty cool stuff.

  • @gortbot7748
    @gortbot7748 2 роки тому

    Good shooting.

  • @AroundTheHouseWithDani
    @AroundTheHouseWithDani 2 роки тому

    thats awesome i asked british a year ago..

  • @TabouretQuiFume
    @TabouretQuiFume 2 роки тому +2

    A great presentation of a great gun as always !
    On the constructive criticism side here is one little trick you could use to improve the sound of your videos : I have noticed some hi-frequency noise in your recent videos (but only in some parts), which can come from many things but I suppose from the gain level ? In any case it could be filtered out easily using a basic noise reduction plugin. I think most editing softwares come with a built-in one these days, but I personnaly use Audacity's one regularly and it works just fine.
    Cheers from France ! Keep your powder dry.

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! At which part do you hear the noise. The first part before the shooting was recored with the built in microphone of the camera, while the last part after the shooting was recorded wing a Rhode microphone.

    • @TabouretQuiFume
      @TabouretQuiFume 2 роки тому +1

      @@capandball From 00:00 to 01:18 ;

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +2

      @@TabouretQuiFume Yes, that's the camera mic, If the last part is better, I'll keep using the Rhode mic instead.

  • @ConorD1990
    @ConorD1990 2 роки тому

    Wait a minute was that count down timer from HALO multiplayer? 🤣
    Also great stuff , really enjoying these international/multi channel black powder mad minute videos we have been getting these last few months.

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +2

      counter downloaded from youtube :)

  • @Flederratte
    @Flederratte 2 роки тому

    In this video there again is a unpleasant high pitched background noise during the whole first clip from 0:00 to 1:17.

  • @boscochou9710
    @boscochou9710 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work. It seems that the ejection mechanism had some trouble getting the casing out.

    • @mykolatkachuk7770
      @mykolatkachuk7770 2 роки тому +1

      there seem to be no ejector, just extractor in this rifle

    • @boscochou9710
      @boscochou9710 2 роки тому

      @@mykolatkachuk7770 Having to pull out the hot casing out seems time-consuming. I'm thinking of Springfield M1873, which has a spring that ejects the casing. Maybe it's an design improvement upon an earlier model.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 роки тому +3

      Remember that for most nations, 'trapdoor' designs were merely stopgaps until a purpose-built single-shot rifle was adopted. Things like spring-loaded ejectors would have seemed like luxuries, especially when you already had massive rate-of-fire increases over the muzzleloaders they were modified from.

    • @capandball
      @capandball  2 роки тому +3

      Only extractor is present on the Wänzl.

  • @MiLsDoTs81
    @MiLsDoTs81 2 роки тому

    classic rifle 👍👍👍❤️

  • @laurencioschaaf7149
    @laurencioschaaf7149 2 роки тому

    Fantastico 😳

  • @arilieberman3547
    @arilieberman3547 7 місяців тому

    Springfield trapdoor had a much better system in that the bullet automatically ejected once the trapdoor was opened. Not so with the Wanzl

  • @tomkr0uz
    @tomkr0uz 2 роки тому

    I just discovered your channel, and I already love it! I do own a rifle that looks pretty the same as the one from this video (I mean the action and the way it operates), but I can't identify it. Could you give me some help with it if I send you some pictures of the markings? I'm a shooting instructor, but I don't know pretty much about rifles from that era. Many thanks and keep shooting :) 🙏

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 2 роки тому

    Is the ejector on your rifle worn out or were they not very strong to begin with? Because the Trapdoor Springfield rifle ejector will kick the brass right out of the entire chamber.

  • @dgdusttodeath4723
    @dgdusttodeath4723 11 місяців тому

    Am blown away!!! Where do I get that rifle and ammunition???

  • @johnnelson1228
    @johnnelson1228 2 роки тому

    That ramrod was taking a walk on you.

  • @thomasrussell7135
    @thomasrussell7135 2 роки тому +1

    nicely done. with practice you'll be able to get 11 per minute

  • @KhanGirey
    @KhanGirey 2 роки тому +2

    Cap, can you check your camera/sound settings? There's a terribly bad whine noise in the background in the past couple videos.

  • @sniper-ls7xx
    @sniper-ls7xx 2 роки тому

    Nem rossz így gyorsba bravo

  • @s.p.ltd.3886
    @s.p.ltd.3886 2 роки тому

    Interesting video. Resembles a trapdoor springfield

  • @shanuyok615
    @shanuyok615 Рік тому +1

    This looks like henry martini design
    Or martini was inspired by this machines

  • @124marsh
    @124marsh Рік тому

    Did Baretta make breech loading conversions?

  • @babualllgemar4187
    @babualllgemar4187 2 роки тому

    Nice