Mad minute: The M 1866 Wänzl rifle
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Fast firing the first breech loading rifle of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. Dedicated to Bloke on the Range and Britishmuzzleloaders
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I find these trapdoor style actions very cool and this mad minute was very impressive.
Awesome! Nice smooth handling and good solid drills. As the Chap eluded to, very similar to the Snider with the hammer and breech operation. A great addition to the series. Love it.,... And...... a very kind shout out to both Channels. 😀
Fantastic run! 8rnds puts it level with the Snider which is no surprise since the loading and unloading is near identical. I’m sure you will do 10-12rnds with the Werndl.
He maintained the tradition of the cleaning rod walking out too.
@@jic1 Yes, made me giggle 🤭
Thanks, when I was shooting I felt it quite quick, but reviewing it it seems awfully slow. We'll see what I can do with the Werndl.
@@capandball might be the ammo pouch flap that slows you down a bit...
I'd love to film a walk and talk with you two in Heeresgeschichtliches Museum in Vienna. So much weird and wonderful stuff in display cases that nobody talks about.
That's what I love about the swell on the ramrod for the US Springfield's 1855-1873. They don't work forward like on the British Enfield's while rapid firing. Once again another rare firearm for an American to see let alone watch being fired. Bloke on the Range and British Muzzleloaders is what brought me to your channel. 👍👍
Amazing! I'm not sure if I could do that with my Springfield trapdoor 50-70! Next time at the range I'll give it a try.
That's a nice run. Didn't strike me that it had a very efficient ejector, so that's going to slow things way down. Nice little gun.
When you consider that a trained rifleman, using a.muzzel loader could perhaps manage four rounds, that is devastatingly fast.
The standard for Civil War infantry was 3 aimed shots in a minute.
What's up with the huge output of content lately? Very nice.
Also, impatiently waiting for the arquebus.
The more the better.
Last year was very-very busy: we had a hunting Wolrd expo in Budapest, and i was the head of the pavilion respo nsible for displaying traditional hunting methods. that project consumed my time.
Thanks for the explanation. I will also soon get around to ordering your book on military muskets
The noise it makes is... Phew
Amazing
I always love your content! It's a lot more fun shooting the single shot rifle's and pistol's. I love the antique firearm's, and for shooting I love Pedersoli.
I can hear the Austro-Hungarian bureaucrats of that time complaining about the cost of ammunition by 8 shots/minute.
Well they adopted it pretty quickly, after getting whupped by the Prussians, in a war that only ended, the summer, of that same year. They may have been looking to replace the Lorenz before that war, but nothing like a bad experience to get your butt in gear.
Actually i have a book that mentions that officialy they reckoned a trained soldier could fire up to 18 shots a minute. So they did anticipate even higher costs. ;-)
Cases were reloaded 6 times: 3 times for live practice rounds and 3 times for practice blanks.
Hot dog! That looks like you had a good time. The two you are competing with do that "Mad Minute" as a standard exercise. If you get close, you're fantastically skilled. Good job!
watching you fire this rifle, i realize that manual rotating bolt is truly a revolution.
The sounds and rhythm during the mad minute remind me of the intro in Pink Floyd's "Money".
8 shots per minute? Sounds like it qualifies as a semi-automatic in most European countries 😉 Awesome video brother!
Good work slick drills and a pretty little rifle too huzzah.
I think this rifle would have much higher fire rate if it had the extractor like on Springfield Trapdoor, for instance. It is still interesting anyway
Was thinking it needs an extractor.
Guns are amazing. I love seeing old rifles at work.
So fun to see three great You Tubers have a friendly competition!
Very cool and also interesting to see the rate of fire.
I have this same rifle before the cartridge conversion was done from the muzzle loader. Many of these were imported for use in the American Civil War in 1861 as a musket muzzle loaders.
Looks like you had some fun there.Not a bad grouping with only one on the far left edge of the ring.Looking forward to a showdown of the breechloaders.thanks for sharing.
That was excellent shooting and a nifty looking gun. Wonderful channel as well.
has to be the most satisfying reload in the 19th century
Very nice more mad minutes please
I have an original 1860 (860) model 1854. It’s not in the greatest shape but I have enjoyed your videos so much.
I love Lorenz rifles!
An interesting video. Thank you.
Nice! The countdown timer in the corner was a nice touch.
8 shots, and all in the black. Fine work sir.
Very good shooting for one minute. Nice rifle.
Yo, 8 months later. I'm new to the channel and you're marksmanship is very good. You've earned a subscriber
Woot! I've been eagerly waiting for you to get a rifle into this test!
We need a Carcano 1860/67 and a single shot Italian Vetterli contender. @SBAM where art thou?
8 shots per minute from any breech loaded single shot is more than respectable... >~< All in the black, superb... ^~^
"let the fun begin"
Damn straight, that looked like a LOT of fun!
Son, I didn't know that you had a PhD in History. That reminds me of my collage days. One of the professors was in my physical education class. We were in the archery range. I (student) had to show the professor (PhD) how to shoot a compound bow.
I love crossover content like this! kudos to you all!
Beautiful rifle, thank you C&B
epic vid!
Good shooting, C&B. Every shot the ramrod bumped out further from the muzzle. Have to be careful not to lose it in the field.
Awesome. Not only 8 shots, but they're also all in the black.
Schweet. Think I'll take the ol springfield to the range today. Thanks for sharing!
Beautiful rifle
AHHHH BEAUTIFUL MUSIC
Such a pretty little rifle.
Outstanding. Thank you.
Thanks again
Reminds Me Of The U.S Springfield Trapdoor 45-70...
Beautiful rifle and very good aim
That was awesome!
That was fun and I will bet you could warm your breakfast on that barrel and pretty good shooting for fast work.
Nice job! That was fun to watch.
Nice display!
Jó a tartalom és a kutya is aranyos! Üdv Budapestről!
I did a double take as when I clicked I expected to see The Chap shooting! Lovely video, glad you shoot to the same format as The Chap to make comparisons possible. Your last shot must have given you great satisfaction!!! Oh and love your dog!
I love my dog as well, but not today. She just destroyed my gloves :)
8 tiros genial 🇦🇷🇦🇷👍👍
Very nice!
Loved it.
Seems very similar to the U.S. 1867 Allin trapdoor modification of the 1863 Springfield rifle...except the Springfield had an automatic ejector for the shell casing, the Wanzl seems to require manual extraction, which clearly slows down the action.
Huzzah!
I am distracted by the dog in spite of the uncommon nature of such a weapon
My buddy got same rifle as u an only got 9 rds in so likeu said its 8rd a min gun a few very few might get 9 but we our with u buddy a 8 rd a minute gun very nice shooting u did
I would like to see it compared to the Springfield Trapdoor rifle.
Video and videos series suggestions I have,
The sharps model 1959,
The gewher 98 rifle.
The evolution of the Winchester repeating rifle from the Henry rifle to the 95 especially the rifle muskets.
Прекрасное ,элегантное оружие и замечательный охотник!!!!
Agreed
Dont have much to say but love your videos and want to leave a comment to help with engagement
i love trapdoors! my fave pre-clip multi load load rifle. this was very impressive. i wonder how hot the chamber got firing that mad minute...
Brilliant.
good shooting !!
Well done. Cant help thinking the Springfield Trapdoor might be a smidgen faster due to its heavy ejector spring.
I was just thinking that this seems a bit slower then the Snyder Enfield just due to ejection issues.
@@ProSimex84 The Snider-Enfield didn't have an ejector either.
@@jic1 you're right, Britishmuzzeloaders just makes it look easy.
The schnider extractor id think would be the same. Definitely interesting to see this competition.... Makes me wish i had the time to use one of my original trapdoors and throw my hat in the ring lol. Like to see how id do with either of my 1873 models.
I wonder if anyone has ever done a mad minute with an 1871 Mauser rifle? I need to find more brass for mine. Love these old single shot rifles, and especially something like the 1866 Wanzl, we don't see those very often here in the states.
I plan to do that.
Moc pěkná.Mám stejnou v perfektním stavu ale nikdy jsem si z toho nevystřelil.Má to okrajový zápal a muselo by se to předělávat.
It looks like a Stutzen or ExtraKorps Gewehr rather that the Full lenght Gewehr. I have Two original Rimfire versions, and the designs to make a lathe- turned case with offset priming hole at the rim, to take an RWS .22 Short Blank. The only time slowing is to centre the Primer in line with the Off set Rimfire Firing Pin.
A method for speeding up loading is a cross- body bandoleer, and gripping 3 ( or 2) cartridges with the Left Hand Fingers; a technique used by Double Rifle Hunters in Africa...quick reload when shooting dangerous game. Three cartridges can also be pulled from the bandoleer with the Left hand as well.
Any way, an excellent Demonstration.
Others to try are Guedes, Albini, Werder, Werndl, Krnca,( Krenk) and French Tabatiere, and of course American Springfield Trapdoor and Remington Rolling block .
DocAV Australia
It is a Jägerstutzen.
You have forgotten swiss Milbank - Amsler?
Such great old guns. I wish these were more common in the U.S.
I'm pretty sure, this Guy is rich af. But he is a good normal guy
Very interesting
You remind me of Aberama Gold from the show Peaky Blinders, and i can't really explain why
Agee! all you guys do GREAT WORK and I never miss a chance to watch!
By the way not to sure about getting beet? That was 8 shots ON Target!
You looked like you were having to much fun with that one😁👍👍👍👍👍 Try that with the 45-70 Springfield rifle 😁
I have excess to one!
@@capandball Ive owned a few different variants and a freind and I had a little competition shoot at the range shooting gong targets at a hundred yards we took turns shooting and the loser would be the one that missed. We shot 50 rounds each and gave up those metal butt plates are a killer 😖
That is a healthy slug. Surprised that there isn't more charge behind it. Still, pretty cool stuff.
You are welcome.
Good shooting.
thats awesome i asked british a year ago..
A great presentation of a great gun as always !
On the constructive criticism side here is one little trick you could use to improve the sound of your videos : I have noticed some hi-frequency noise in your recent videos (but only in some parts), which can come from many things but I suppose from the gain level ? In any case it could be filtered out easily using a basic noise reduction plugin. I think most editing softwares come with a built-in one these days, but I personnaly use Audacity's one regularly and it works just fine.
Cheers from France ! Keep your powder dry.
Thanks! At which part do you hear the noise. The first part before the shooting was recored with the built in microphone of the camera, while the last part after the shooting was recorded wing a Rhode microphone.
@@capandball From 00:00 to 01:18 ;
@@TabouretQuiFume Yes, that's the camera mic, If the last part is better, I'll keep using the Rhode mic instead.
Wait a minute was that count down timer from HALO multiplayer? 🤣
Also great stuff , really enjoying these international/multi channel black powder mad minute videos we have been getting these last few months.
counter downloaded from youtube :)
In this video there again is a unpleasant high pitched background noise during the whole first clip from 0:00 to 1:17.
Nice work. It seems that the ejection mechanism had some trouble getting the casing out.
there seem to be no ejector, just extractor in this rifle
@@mykolatkachuk7770 Having to pull out the hot casing out seems time-consuming. I'm thinking of Springfield M1873, which has a spring that ejects the casing. Maybe it's an design improvement upon an earlier model.
Remember that for most nations, 'trapdoor' designs were merely stopgaps until a purpose-built single-shot rifle was adopted. Things like spring-loaded ejectors would have seemed like luxuries, especially when you already had massive rate-of-fire increases over the muzzleloaders they were modified from.
Only extractor is present on the Wänzl.
classic rifle 👍👍👍❤️
Fantastico 😳
Springfield trapdoor had a much better system in that the bullet automatically ejected once the trapdoor was opened. Not so with the Wanzl
I just discovered your channel, and I already love it! I do own a rifle that looks pretty the same as the one from this video (I mean the action and the way it operates), but I can't identify it. Could you give me some help with it if I send you some pictures of the markings? I'm a shooting instructor, but I don't know pretty much about rifles from that era. Many thanks and keep shooting :) 🙏
Is the ejector on your rifle worn out or were they not very strong to begin with? Because the Trapdoor Springfield rifle ejector will kick the brass right out of the entire chamber.
Am blown away!!! Where do I get that rifle and ammunition???
That ramrod was taking a walk on you.
nicely done. with practice you'll be able to get 11 per minute
Cap, can you check your camera/sound settings? There's a terribly bad whine noise in the background in the past couple videos.
Nem rossz így gyorsba bravo
Interesting video. Resembles a trapdoor springfield
This looks like henry martini design
Or martini was inspired by this machines
Did Baretta make breech loading conversions?
Nice