Vocal Coach Reacts - Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
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I am Rebecca and I am one heck of a passionate vocal coach/singer/songwriter/impressionist/health/fitness/self- improvement/anything that makes me smile!! I love anything vocal/singing related and geek out on it every day. I want to motivate and inspire others to follow their dreams…corny? Well maybe but it’s true. So what’s motivating me?? I had a huge tumour removed summer 2017 and my ovaries and fallopian tubes. The tumour was the size of a 20 week baby!! However, despite not being able to walk for a couple of weeks, and feeling generally awful…. It has made me create and do what I love! It wasn’t an easy time but I won’t let fear dictate my life. I didn’t think ‘why me’, there are plenty of horrific issues people have to deal with…it’s not always smooth sailing. It’s true when you hear, ‘Life is short’, the crazy thing is, I am glad it happened…I appreciate life even more and practice gratitude everyday…It’s so easy to get caught up with the little things…and I do sometimes, but look at the bigger picture, will it matter in a year or two…?
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Pauses on Peter Hook, “That’s a well known hook..”. Yes, yes he is 😂
Scott Haldeman that’s was sooo brilliant lol love Peter and his book about Joy Division!
I actually laughed when she did that! A brilliant but unwitting piece of synchronicity by you there Rebecca lol :-)
I love peter hook when he sings joy songs he does great justice. Gets close to ians vocals but dont copy either. Just great stuff.
Such a pointless video. They are telling us how to interpret musical lyrics now! The ability to think independently is stone dead now.
@@anonomousous Lol who's telling you how to interpret song lyrics? The individual in the video giving a very vague interpretation from their own personal experience, an interpretation that was even headed with the phrase "I feel..."?
If you're feeling forced into thinking any sort of way by that, then you probably shouldn't be complaining about people's inability to think independently. You should just take comfort that they're not overwhelming you with numerous, varying opinions, because you seem to have trouble processing even the most benign views of others without feeling oppressed.
The vocals were recorded with the tape sped up, then slowed back down to create the slightly other worldly vocal effect. It was one of the favourite tricks of producer Martin Hannett.
Chris Wareham
Martin was the man. Flawed but beautiful.
Buzzcock’s (no Joy Division without them) first EP, Magazine, Mondays on Bummed, The High, New Order’s brilliant early stuff, basically so much for Factory artists, New FADS, the first Stone Roses tracks, even a U2 track.
Some say if it wasn't for Hannett, JD would have been just another punk band. For me he was JD's fifth member.
@@carlosnavarro1091 Definitely the fifth member, and they acknowledge learning a lot from him. Without him I believe they still would have been more than "just another punk band", as some of their live performances attest. Perhaps a little more aggressive sounding - check out the Les Bains Douches live album for example.
Do you have any sources for this ? I would like to read more about it.
@@Daniel-gw2tb I read about it in a Joy Division book that was published in the late 1980s or very early 1990s - it included information about some of the recording sessions. I was a student at the time and couldn't afford the book, so I read as much of it as I could in the huge Virgin Records store that used to be on Oxford Street in London. Maybe someone on a Joy Division forum knows the author and title as I cannot remember :-(
The story of Ian is so incredibly heartbreaking. I always get emotional when I hear his voice
You should check out the story and music of Jackson Frank.
I'm sorry but he was his own worst enemy.
@@glenndouglas8822 your not wrong.
@lilo5437
there is a movie made about the band that I thought was very well made, not entirely true to life, but still quite good, named *Control* (I know... not very imaginative)
Me too.
He was suffering from depression at the time and you can really feel his pain in his voice.
Not just depression but approaching rock bottom/life ending depression.
This song is not about depression, it was about his marriage breakup( his own fault) and his epilepsy ( also a bit of his own fault, never took his meds, used to look at tree leaves shimmering in the sun which is extremely dangerous for an epileptic as it brings on massive fits, I suffer from epilepsy).
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he wrote this song of him cheating on his wife! he couldnt decide between them both, wife he tried get back but he was set on ending life sadly as in great guilt sad before all inspired goth scene sound n depeche mode even rammstein, the cure n on!!!! he loved the doors n bowie most....sad.....a legend.
There's a dark, depressive, melancholy about his voice that has its own power.
I think he was only 21 at the time, but it sounds like a much older soul singing.
And there is so much truth in there for so many couples.
What a tragic loss Ian Curtis was. Amazing voice, amazing presence. Gone way too soon.
An amazing lyricist i think thats what Ian will be remembered for he was an incredible writer.
40 years on 18/05. It will be a big day of making as many people know his significance as possible.
All the best are gone too soon, ie Layne Staley.
Just genius.
It's the tragic fate of many great artists that the same torment which drives their artistic expression will often be their downfall, and that those who overcome their anguish will often fade into artistic insignificance.
My goth arse clicked on this so fast when I saw Joy Division in the title
Goth?
Mate joy devision is not goth
@@finnmckenzie8529 but like... they literally are though
Finn McKenzie They practically created Post-Punk which is a key component of the genre.
I’ve always regarded goth as a bit camp. Ian Curtis sang from the soul.
His gravestone says “Love will tear us apart”.
In Macclesfield cemetery. Its been moved after being stolen multiple times
Nothing else could be more appropriate
IF you want to really appreciate his voice, try "Atmosphere".
Magnificent track.
Wasn't atmosphere his last song, I'm only saying this as it was his last live song and new order formed not long after
Absolutely right.
One of those songs that give goosebumps ❤️
this song makes me sobbbbb
It sounds so minimalistic, cold - filled with sadness. But the tune is catchy anyway and the voice remains in your head. When 70s Post Punk meets 80s New Wave. Somehow a great song.
This woman has zero idea how revolutionary these songs and especially the lyrics were. All Rock till JD was mostly glam. The honesty, pain and vulnerability had never been expressed like that before. It opened the door for groups like Radiohead and so many others to explore the existential dimensions of human life.
Yes, but like.....chill. Lol
Look man I adore JD and know what you mean but anyone can tell it’s not for everyone
Yes, there are few bands that did it before JD but hey, highlight the velvet underground, they covered all kinds of topics in their lyrics
first time i heard it thought it was a song from maybe mid 80's, but for 1980 this was revolutionary.
I love Ian´s lyrics over all. I'm astonished that a guy of 23 could harbour emotions like that. At the end of the day, I would still suggest that this divorce song is pure ABBA.
The rest of the band formed New Order after Ian Curtis's death.
Very different singer to Bernard Sumner who just had to step up after Ian's suicide. Watch the movie 24hr Party People
Mark Morgon-Shaw...Also CONTROL is a really good movie about Joy Division and the life of Ian Curtis. 😎😎😎
@@-belue-6697 Yes..RVA must watch this also !
Thanks for that information no one else in the the entire world knew.
mark kelly...Some people don’t listen to Joy Division or New Order...I know, shocker!...So how would they know? AND now they do know. 😎
Arguably one of the most important songs in pop history
He's talking about importance and not preference and he said arguably not factually, so yes really I think tbh.
I concur...while there is still love and heartbreak around this song will always resonate. Best love song ever? Probably.
Pop he says Hahahaha
I agree they helped start the whole synth pop genre towards their later years
Listen to The Cure’s cover/tribute to him
Ah, my youth. Ian Curtis and Joy Division were the shit in the 1980s.
Stacy Westly it’ll always be the shit, absolute legendary band,i love them.
They are still the shit
Dont want to be a smart Alec but Joy Division were late 70s. Ian Curtis died when this song was released (1980). Soon after they reformed as new order known for hits such as blue Monday, true faith and bizzare love triangle :)
the who man doesn’t mean she didn’t bump em in the 80s? we’re enjoying it now in 2020. deaths bring popularity to music
Still my fav band... 40-years on.
40 years ago today. Thanks for finding the feeling in his voice. And for listening to the lyrics.
3:56 perfect timing "that is such a well known hook" hooky comes up
3:55. Talking about the HOOK while the video is paused on the face of Peter HOOK.
For a band called "Joy" Division they had the most Depressed Vocalist. RIP Ian we miss you.
Joy Division’s name came from a depressing background story. The Nazis used to take Jewish women at concentration camps and use them as their own mistresses (to put it politely). So there was no Joy there.
@@paranormalskeptic3893 and that part of the camp was called the "joy Division"
Layers of irony in that name.
@@paranormalskeptic3893 glad someone on this thread is educated.
Stephen Morris is the finest drummer ever.
Ian Curtis' husky melancholic voice is everything
defo, never gets the recognition he deserves
None of the musicians in Joy Division are classically trained, they came out of the punk DIY era. There's an interview with Peter Hook where he wonders what the various Idol shows would have to say about Ian Curtis. I like that you reviewed them. But I doubt that they would care!
I find his voice so deep and mysterious, it isn't what you'd expect looking at him but I really love it
Ian was pure sadness. And the most important influence that got the 80s started.
One of the UK un sung heroes
One of the greats
Unsung? You sure mate?
@@natschaefer1044 they are fairly Unknown these days. I don’t think most people under 30 would have even heard of them.
@@lukeholman3180 You couldn't be more wrong
@@jay.parmar I’m really not though.
@@lukeholman3180 no, they’re very popular for a band that ended 42 years ago actually
And for those who may not know, and in case it hasn't already been said: After Ian Curtis' suicide, Joy Division became New Order
Please take a look at Siouxsie and the Banshees.
Nick O'Teen what song? They have so damn many.
I’d say The Last Beat Of My Heart.....
Or melt. Damn good song too.
A band called devotcha does a really good version of last beat of my heart worth a listen
I always liked Siouxsie and the Banshees cover of Dear Prudence. I actually like it better than the Beatles version
The best band from Manchester and one of the best and most influential bands in music ever.
Boy... this brings me right back to that British wave of the '80s. The Cure, The Human League, Depeche Mode, Euythmics, FGTH (Frankie Goes To Hollywood, for those of us who live under rocks... lol) and my absolute mega "fave of the wave"..... The Smiths. The synth really came into it's own during those years after the... "what is this new instrument all about" in the 70's newness wore off.
Speaking of The Smiths... lyrics of the day: "Ask me why and I'll die... oh ask me why and I'll die. And if you must go to work tomorrow... well if I were you I wouldn't bother... for there are brighter sides to life... and I should know because I've seen them... but not very often" The Smiths _Still Ill_
The Smiths were to the 80's what the Fab Four was to the 60's, just not such an instant insanity inducing love for a band. The Smiths influence was much more subtle and took many years to see the results. Love those years in music, so thank you for the second time today :)
PS> Don't think I have ever requested a reaction, but something from The Smiths would be welcome :)
The Smiths are perhaps the greatest british band. Even better than The Beatles I'd say. They have created some of the most relatable songs ever made. There Is A Light That Never Goes is the greatest love song ever written.
The Queen Is Dead is 1 of 2 albums that I like to say play a part in keeping me alive.
ha ha.... better hope Rebecca doesn't see this :) She is a big fan of Paul, so you may wanna hide under that rock she just crawled out from under... lol
Should’ve been new dawn fades to hear how powerful his voice can be
Good-One...❗
One of his more Powerful Vocals
Listen to the Birmingham live performance on still particularly 2:00 onwards absolutely knocks the album version out the park
The story of Ian Curtis is a very tragic one as he never intended to live past 23 very sad I think this song is basically about how his affair he was having with the Belgium journalist was tearing his marriage apart but also Joy Division as a band were being torn apart
It was about his affair and failed reconciliation with his wife. His medication made him depressed as well. Nowadays there are warnings on medication that “may cause suicidal thoughts”, not back then. Just a lot for him to handle, and between his affair, failed marriage, worsening epilepsy, he just couldn’t take it anymore.
Btw, their song Control is about a friend who had epilepsy and died. I think she was a personal friend of Ian’s.
Actually his seizures were the main cause of that he was having them everyday
@SlowRiotNewKanada thats not why he did it he had terrible seizures and even the wife said it was more because he was having them daily
@Kenny Evans that's what 'she's lost control' is about not this song
@@paranormalskeptic3893 "She's Lost Control" is about a girl with epilepsy who died who Ian happened to be working with as he worked with special needs kids. He was given training on epilepsy BEFORE his diagnosis, little fun fact
Great review- it has never been about Ian's vocal ability- rather his emotional and heartfelt delivery, incredible lyrics and his ability to set the melody. I am a huge fan of his baritone voice and powerful delivery- hands down, Joy Division/ New Order is one of the most influential bands ever.
Rip Ian Curtis, massive loss in music history, he will be forever missed
One of the most influential bands in rock.
I'm just here for Joy Division!!!
The lyrics are about the way him and his wife slowly drifted apart. Deep, dark and sadness with the disguise of happiness within the up lifting music.
Your reactions are priceless. This is one of the greatest songs ever.
Sometimes a song needs an understated voice to add more to it than a more powerful voice
Joy Division's music affects me on such a level that's hard to explain. It's both timeless, and really touches something deep in your soul. Rest well Ian.
One of the greatest songs ever made IMO, totally unique feeling to it.
One of the greatest singers and lyricists in one of the greatest bands in history.
Joy Division should be in the Rock Hall of Fame.
Agree.
For such a small country the UK is so musically influential!
Ian was already seriously depressed when they made this song!
The whole bloody country was seriously depressed when they made this song
@@embunchofnumbers the witch was in power, that would depress anyone!
The Immortal Ian Curtis.❤️
I'm 59 years old and I was a big fan of Joy Division when I was young. Nowadays I prefer classical music, opera and Dimash. It was nice watching your video and remembering my youth, thank you 😀
Age shouldn't change your love of certain music. I am a few years behind you but still listen to Joy Division and will for a long time!
simply the best No, she didn’t.
Вам не 59 на вид
Dimash😂
Thank you for the reaction. Most big Joy Division fans are in love with their first, and very unique album Unknown Pleasures. Key hits in their catalog: Shadowplay, She's Lost Control, and New Dawn Fades. Ian suffered from epilepsy and had a couple of really bad seizures on stage. His medication and depression were not a good combination..The surviving members went on to form New Order.
I love you for choosing this great song rebecca ❤️ the lyrics and the way Ian is singing it, I think it's so deeply honest. The love lost between them, one can hear how much he appreciated it and his mourning, "that something so good just can't function no more" The lyrics are so clear, direct and straight in your face... It's over, there's nothing to repair...too late, "we've taking different roads" Yet he sings it almost like a lullaby, so calm and so beautiful heart touching. It's a masterpiece. Thanks so much and stay healthy 🧚♀️
Funny observation here: when you paused the video to comment on the famous hook, you paused it while showing the bass player whose name is Peter Hook! I laughed ridiculously hard. 😂🎶
Did anyone else catch that?
Thank you!
Chris Andersen classic 🧐
Yes, he IS a well-known Hook, isn’t he?
And in this case Hook wrote the hook!
Possibly the best bassist of all time
100% caught that and glad to see that others did as well.
This song is a monster of beauty.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on Ian Curtis. Would you consider reviewing This Mortal Coil's "Song To The Siren" or maybe even Iarla O Lionaird's "Aisling Gheal" both of which have the power to bring this grown man to tears..
Song to the siren!! Yes
I bought the Lost Highway soundtrack for that song but it wasn't included. What a great scene and perfect song.
Song to the siren by this mortal coil is one of the best covers ever made
This song title made me think of another band, INXS and their song Never Tear Us Apart, whose singer, Michael Hutchense, has also left this mortal coil.
This Mortal Coil .. Another great band!
brilliant band and song also!
Thank you for keeping this classic English rock band relevant. There are many young singers that can benefit from this music.
One of the best tracks of all time. When this comes on the rado I turn it up. These were the days of meaningul lyrics that reached for the heart. The track wouldn't have worked any other way.
He never wrote it to be famous or pretty which is what makes it so astounding.
Ian Curtis was a beautiful lyricist in a melancholy way. Yes, timeless, as emotions can be.
One of the best songs ever..
Its a song that can't be covered by anyone else. Its been tried but this is the way it has to sound you can't change perfection
wrong swans did an incredible acoustic version
@@daninusa5297 still not as good
See Dave Gahan's cover.
New Wave saved western pop in the 80's, because rock had gotten completely lost, and this was a foundational New Wave band.
Requesting Nico and Velvet Underground’s ‘All Tomorrows Parties.’
I love Joy Division but New Order is my favorite band ever. The group’s style did not die with Ian. They carried that musical sensibility and put an electro synth pop twist on it.
You look SO PRETTY today!! You really do need the lyrics for this because he's so quiet. The lyrics are great.Thank's for reviewing this, this was one of my first songs I heard on the radio telling us of new directions music was going to go into. Yes, I was dancing to it when it came out, I'm old!!
That was very insightful, you have a talent for this.
Joy Division, later New Order are some of Britain's best. Alongside The Smiths, The Cure, Kate Bush, The Beatles, Bowie etc etc. Undefeated muscially I think.
So sad Ian hung himself shortly after this songs creation, but from it came New Order who made the iconic Blue Monday which basically everyone knows now.
And the stone roses, and oasis
@@cameronstephan5329 Never mention Oasis to indie/post-punk snobs, they just don't get it apart from the first album perhaps.
@@ChainNonSmoker did do some good songs, champagne supernova, don't look back in anger, half the world away
There are good songs, there are great songs and there are even magical songs, then there are songs like this!!!
Joy Division along with Nico's Chelsea Girls (Nico has a very strange but emotional voice, please have a listen to her) are so packed with pent up emotion, they have, and still make me cry, and that's a hard thing to achieve at 55.
Although I never saw Joy Division live I did see New Order playing their first gig in Wrexham when the ice rink held a new wave festival called Futurama in 1883.
Link mobile.twitter.com/futuramafest?lang=en
@Kenny Evans Sorry yes,, I lived just up the road on the Wirral called Neston. We used to go ice skating there with a few friends if we spent all our money on food at the rink we would walk back along the railway line crossing the river Dee bridge.
You are correct Deeside my stupid 🥴
Crazy how you noticed that the lyrics are so important. Ian was literally pouring his heart out.
was scared to watch this bc i didn’t know if you would hate on my fave joy division song but i was pleasantly surprised. ian curtis was truly one of a kind. his voice rlly makes you feel something even tho there isn’t any emotion in it
Hi there, long time no see :)
Well... this song... almost killed me and saved me some years ago.
2012, summer. I had just had a MAJOR HEARTBREAK (how major? One night I'd cry LITERALLY FOR HOURS NON-STOP). And a few times I'd go out, listen to this song, walk streets, not really paying attention as to where I was going. My mind was... elsewhere... Thank God I walked quiet streets and was not hit by cars! But then, after a while, I felt like this song was my therapy, and, while, of course, not 100% ay-okay, I felt like I had gotten over.
Thank you, Rebecca, for your videos and coach work, and Joy Division, for the therapy and some of the very best post-punk songs ever ^^.
Another commenter said you are addictive. 🙂Yes, you are. 💎
She’s happy in the beginning. But starts to look more and more depressed towards the end.😁 that means the song’s expression is spot on.👍
Listen to Joy Division “She’s lost Control”
His voice is really one of a kind, if you ever see the videos where he sings that song live. You can tell he pours all of his emotions and really puts everything into his performance. Its quite haunting
This is 100% a song i recognise. I never realised but it's also very emotional. Veey catchy too. Thank you for posting Rebecca❤❤
As an instrumentalist I find myself not paying close attention to lyrics and focusing on the overall sound so listening to words closely today I started tearing up very heavily
Joy Division definitively are in the top 3 of my all time fave bands!! Thx for doing this with legendary bands like them 👏🏼
When I first heard of Joy Division, Rolling Stone magazine had a special edition called "The Top 100 Albums of the Eighties". Their second album "Closer" was picked to be on the list. I bought and liked it because it was depressing. Now my outlook has changed and I listen to JD simply because I've learned that things can always be worse. R.I.P. Ian Curtis.
Stephen Morris (the drummer) changed modern music with a new punchy fast syncopated style. What a band they were.
Hope you'll also react to The Sisters of Mercy
Hell yeah.
I suggest "Marian".
What I read, was that Love Will Tear Us Apart was in response to Love Will Keep Us Together by C & T. Also perhaps, you just may need more darkness in your life to truly understand the song.
I think you should do a quick turn around and listen to The Wombats "Lets Dance To Joy Division" right after this. Love your work!
Oh the days of not caring how you are vocally proficient. No having to be perfect. You need to watch the film Control to understand his personal battle with epileppssy. Lyrically a God. Try Isolation
Oh how I love that song. Thank you for saying so........ So Bittersweet that song is.
Love this song but you can tell he is going through a troubled relationship the song captures the mood perfectly not forgetting he suffered from epilepsy your reaction is very good keep up the good work 👏👏👏
The funny thing about this video is that the drummer is clearly playing another song altogether--it doesn't take much to figure that out! The song that launched a thousand mopes around the world, along with most anything by The Cure, of course. Your fellow English folks laid some serious groundwork, there.
I never noticed the drummer before !
42 years later and this still gives me shivers ..and even more understood the older you get and experience life
I’m quite curious on how you’d feel about Sacrifice by London After Midnight.
Wearing headphones. Every time she banged the desk I wanted to look over my shoulder.
4:44 when a vocal coach starts to hear a serious song.
Great job Rebecca!! I hope you’re safe and well! Stunningly beautiful as always!! 😉😘😍♥️🎧🥰
Simp
So underappreciated in this generation. Please react to Interpol too
Great reaction, i loved the way you turned around in your chair. really no words, you just look stunning. love you girl..
This is my all time favorite song….lyrics, music, arrangement, voice; perfection in 4 minutes.
I love this thank you so much, Ian Curtis was amazing. You’re so incredible for this. Stay safe!
New fan here!!! Take a listen to Danzig's "Mother" -- I'd love to know your thoughts
it's an even trade. we have shared our music loves with Miss Rebecca and she has lent/taught us her knowledge of singing and how to project/inflect the voice. keep doing what you do, Lady
He was epileptic, which contributed to his singing style
But it also interfered with his ability to perform. Coupled with the breakdown of his marriage, he spiralled into depression and eventual suicide. Very sad for such a talented performer.
More his dancing style. His singing was pretty much his own style, though he was a huge Bowie fan and tried to emulate him.
Not sure if you knew but at one of the early gigs he had an epileptic seizure so band mates throughout the life of Ian and Joy Division kept an eye on him during performing
more his dancing style. His singing is not really epileptic as I'm sure you can tell
Dear Darlin',
I'm so thankful you continue to grace us. Hang in there...we need you.
Andy
You should react to basically anything by Talking Heads. David Byrne has such a strange, unique voice. I recommend "Once in a Lifetime" simply because it's their most famous song, but someone else could probably chime in with something that'd be technically more interesting to analyze.
Also, "Andromeda" by Weyes Blood. Natalie is an incredible vocalist, reminds me a bit of Karen Carpenter in a way. Absolutely lovely stuff.
They are a great band. Their more recognizable song is probably Psychokiller.
@Catharsis Animals think and that is a fact...
Lyrically this song is of the scale. Vocally of the scale. Ian Curtis a legend and sadly missed. Immortal forever.
The song is about his affair ruining his relationship with his wife.
One of the best and most unique voices backed up with great lyrics. R.I.P. Ian Curtis.
Raiding my youth!
My goodness! Your hunch about the song is spot on!!
This is one of my favourite songs ever. This singing sounds great on this track but is this “good” singing? Music like this makes you wonder if good singing just has to convey emotions and doesn’t need to be much else.
Ruth Barr
Rebecca: I don’t think this is a typical love song.
Me: 😶