Songs that Changed Music: Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division

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    Today, listeners are still captivated by “Love Will Tear Us Apart,” its dark authenticity seemingly inseparable from the tragedy that preceded its release. As Len Brown observed for NME in 1990:
    “Ian Curtis was no more by the time Closer and ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’ reached us, which makes it more difficult to measure their true merit objectively. During his lifetime, Joy Division colonised only the Independent charts. After he’d hanged himself, in the early hours of Sunday May 18, 1980, ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’ reached number 13 in the UK singles charts, selling 160,000 copies; Closer reached six in the album charts.”
    However, the song’s legacy extends far beyond that of a dark voyeurism. Its lasting influence has been recounted time and again by both musicians (The Cure, U2, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails) and music critics. NME even named the song the greatest single of all time in 2002. In the earliest moments of the post-punk era, “Love Will Tear Us Apart” and Joy Division offered a radical new sound which enveloped Curtis’ groundbreaking, brutally honest, lyrical writing and would influence generations of musicians to come.
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  • @Producelikeapro
    @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +167

    Which other songs do you think changed music?

    • @Joey-rp5vg
      @Joey-rp5vg 3 роки тому +13

      Absolute begginers

    • @caloss2
      @caloss2 3 роки тому +7

      How about Helen Reddy's "Angie Baby" I heard that aged 5 years old in 1974 on the radio and it has stuck with me forever. Also RIP Helen Reddy

    • @Bodyknowledge77
      @Bodyknowledge77 3 роки тому +67

      Talking Heads "Once In A Lifetime" etc

    • @willeagles3278
      @willeagles3278 3 роки тому +3

      would love to hear you depict any Zeppelin material!!!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +10

      @@Bodyknowledge77 MASTERPIECE!!

  • @zoltannemeth8864
    @zoltannemeth8864 3 роки тому +1060

    Fun fact: I had a tribute band in high school called “Joy Multiplication”. Early purveyors of Math Rock.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +46

      Haha very cool!

    • @pete7164
      @pete7164 3 роки тому +148

      That is simultaneously the best and worst band name of all time

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 3 роки тому +3

      Awesome 😂

    • @zoltannemeth8864
      @zoltannemeth8864 3 роки тому +35

      @@bonethirsty I love you too!

    • @jacko717
      @jacko717 3 роки тому +20

      Very good.
      I believe at one time there was an Elbow tribute band called "Arse", I so wish I'd thought of that.

  • @subpatterns7297
    @subpatterns7297 3 роки тому +72

    I love how, by itself, the bass line sounds so sweet and uplifting

  • @katepsaltis4122
    @katepsaltis4122 3 роки тому +311

    This is one of the songs I will never get tired of hearing.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +10

      Agreed! Such an amazing song!

    • @IamNotANumber3929
      @IamNotANumber3929 3 роки тому +3

      Totally with you there Kate...😊👍

    • @ianknealy2843
      @ianknealy2843 2 роки тому +1

      It never gets dated,as fresh today as 30 years ago. I love it.

    • @daveround69
      @daveround69 2 роки тому +1

      I remember it being on in a nightclub whilst I was at uni and my mind was blown. roughly 2005-6 . A few manc lads was there and they obviously knew it well.

  • @tx1575
    @tx1575 2 роки тому +81

    The most beautiful and dark song of all time....All these years later, and it still gives me goosebumps.....

  • @WomanNextDoor
    @WomanNextDoor 3 роки тому +145

    Two enduring memories from my teenage years; my brother dancing in his bedroom to JD prior to going to their concert, then not long after, his closed bedroom door and silence behind it learning of Ian's passing.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +17

      Thanks ever so much for sharing. I really appreciate it

  • @Johnny-mb9vy
    @Johnny-mb9vy 3 роки тому +111

    Stephen Morris was an absolute powerhouse drummer

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely

    • @janbures5203
      @janbures5203 3 роки тому +13

      Same for Mike Joyce. I feel those two desserves much more praise. They fit so well into their bands.

    • @lordcharles9786
      @lordcharles9786 2 роки тому +3

      Saw him live, the man is an absolute beast and puts his all in the whole time, I would wholeheartedly believe that the temperature of the o2 that night probably rose by 10 degrees exclusively because of the heat coming of that man

    • @jumofi
      @jumofi 2 роки тому +4

      He still is

  • @bobbyarchaic9649
    @bobbyarchaic9649 3 роки тому +50

    Possibly the most beautiful bittersweet song ever recorded.

  • @raindog8684
    @raindog8684 3 роки тому +40

    The more I listen to Joy Division, the more I appreciate the talent and ground breaking nature of the band.

  • @Puckrocker
    @Puckrocker 3 роки тому +289

    The Cure, followed by Joy Division? Stop trying so hard to make this my fav channel!

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 3 роки тому +159

    Then Ian died and the highly influential and seminal band Joy Division turned into ANOTHER highly influential and seminal band New Order. Amazing!!!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely!! Thanks ever so much

    • @robertcook2572
      @robertcook2572 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, it's exactly like 'Wings' rising, phoenix-like, from the ashes of 'The Beatles'.

    • @jessed682
      @jessed682 3 роки тому +1

      New Order killed him cuz he was holding them back. You know it's true.

    • @debzeb6899
      @debzeb6899 2 роки тому +2

      And Blue Monday is another history music moment.

    • @jcfiggy
      @jcfiggy 2 роки тому +3

      @@jessed682 comedy

  • @pbennett666
    @pbennett666 3 роки тому +126

    When I bought this in 1980, I said it was the greatest song I'd ever heard. 40 years on I still stand by that remark. Glorious, beautiful and emotional.

  • @mcpr5971
    @mcpr5971 Рік тому +28

    I discovered New Order way before I realized how awesome Joy Division was. So I really appreciate talking about the high notes on the bass, which I distinctively know from New Order. Ex: Age of Consent, Ceremony, Bizarre Love Triangle, etc. It just gives that dreamy, blissful sound that makes me smile and recall my youth. The older I get, the harder it is to find things like that.

  • @THEQueeferSutherland
    @THEQueeferSutherland 3 роки тому +244

    Thank you for saying, "died by suicide," it's a little thing, but it matters.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +43

      Yes, agreed 100%!

    • @N.Narwhal
      @N.Narwhal 3 роки тому +4

      He commited suicide liberal

    • @tinycockjock1967
      @tinycockjock1967 3 роки тому +65

      @@N.Narwhal Ah there’s your model conservative. A boomer with complete disregard to others and has no clue what the word “Consequences” means. All that, and he has to drag politics into everything. You’re miserable dude.

    • @brendancronin3796
      @brendancronin3796 3 роки тому +2

      Rather than saying what ?

    • @Argeaux2
      @Argeaux2 3 роки тому +67

      @@brendancronin3796 rather than saying suicided, or committed suicide.
      Died by suicide takes the fault away from the person, and puts their death down to the circumstances they were going through.
      It's more humane.

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil 3 роки тому +36

    Hooky’s bass in this song is just infectious.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +4

      Agreed 109%!

    • @Ishidanfarded2370
      @Ishidanfarded2370 3 роки тому +3

      Hooky will always be the most underrated bassist of all time. In my opinion he's the 4 String King

  • @bhamacuk
    @bhamacuk 3 роки тому +68

    I think a song's intro is one of the most important aspects for a band to consider when making music. It's the first thing you hear and when you have a killer intro to a great song, you have a winner cos it can make a song instantly recognisable before you hear the rest. The intro to this song is a classic!

  • @ReginatorNet
    @ReginatorNet 3 роки тому +115

    'Bizarre Love Triangle' and 'Blue Monday' by New Order got me through the 80's.

  • @coloradoken3159
    @coloradoken3159 3 роки тому +7

    Ian's wife had no idea the song was written about her at the time.

  • @gnguyenb
    @gnguyenb 3 роки тому +190

    After The Cure, here comes Joy Division! I feel my teenage years... 80's kids thank you again sir! 😉

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +6

      Haha thanks ever so much my friend!!

    • @arcanics1971
      @arcanics1971 3 роки тому +5

      My preteens but it was still the era in which my taste developed.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +1

      @@arcanics1971 agreed!

    • @lenpey
      @lenpey 3 роки тому +3

      I think WIRE was just as significant. Also Magazine.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      lenpey huge fan!! Stay tuned

  • @thejacksaints
    @thejacksaints 3 роки тому +143

    Been listening to "Isolation" on repeat these past 8 months...

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +11

      Yes, such a masterpiece!!

    • @Reprodestruxion
      @Reprodestruxion 3 роки тому +2

      Produce Like A Pro insight

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +1

      Hi @@Reprodestruxion thanks ever so much!!

    • @Module79L
      @Module79L 3 роки тому +2

      @@Producelikeapro - Ah, the fine art of sarcasm lost in text form once again... ; )

    • @clintwilson6380
      @clintwilson6380 3 роки тому +3

      Can't stop listening to "Disorder".

  • @Bring_MeSunshine
    @Bring_MeSunshine 3 роки тому +143

    As a young music fan during the era, I wasn't overly enamoured with Joy Division. An early single, Transmission, had bent my ear a little, but to me they came across as a bit doom-laden. So, when a friend's girlfriend pulled out of going to a gig, and a ticket to see the band at Birmingham University student union, became available, I wasn't particularly keen. But, my friend convinced me to go, and reluctantly, I went. The same gig later appeared as 'Still', a recorded document of the last ever gig of Joy Division. But, after I heard it, it wasn't anywhere near as powerful, as energised, as dramatic, as wonderful as the gig on the night. What I'd heard on record prior, with the slight exeption on Transmission, hadn't prepared me for the devastating emotional blast the band had delivered 'live'. I thought, 'I've found a band, that mean something'. Just over two weeks later, it had all gone and Love Will Tear Us Apart, hadn't even been released, yet

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +19

      Thanks ever so much my friend! I loved that story! So many of us come to learn about our favourite bands in random ways and our preconceived ideas can get blown out of the water!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +7

      Luke yes! Agreed 100%!

    • @Bring_MeSunshine
      @Bring_MeSunshine 3 роки тому +6

      @Luke I think, I really only began to feel it was something special, as time moved on. Back then, not many people were aware of Joy Division, and had 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' not been such a stunning single, their memory would probably have faded. Luckily, for the fans back then, not only did that single have impact, but the second LP, Closer, was also a terrific legacy.

  • @mossga
    @mossga 3 роки тому +13

    5:14 my word... Nailed my soul.
    If this isn't played at my funeral, I'm not going.

  • @jonny26281
    @jonny26281 3 роки тому +60

    Unknown Pleasures is one of my favourite albums ever. Martin Hannetts drum sound is amazing

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +8

      Agreed! I'm such a HUGE fan of this song and this band!!

  • @rodd1000
    @rodd1000 3 роки тому +57

    I can still remember the announcement of Ian Curtis death, being a huge JD fan I was so gutted. Such a huge talent and icon. The late 70s to early 80s were an amazing time to be a young Brit. Arguably the most iconic influential era ever.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +9

      Hi Karl, yes, such an amazing period of music!!

    • @Thehamstersgiude2u
      @Thehamstersgiude2u 3 роки тому +1

      “Gutted” love the British word choice

    • @deadrose23
      @deadrose23 3 роки тому +1

      You're not alone. I was over here in Seattle waiting to finally see them live. Crushed.

    • @joelfildes5544
      @joelfildes5544 3 роки тому

      Same,John peel...

    • @Katehowe3010
      @Katehowe3010 3 роки тому +2

      It certainly was a great time to be alive, but i believe the onset of the counterculture to the first two years of Punk just pip it to the post, ie 66/77! The existence of prime Beatles, Hendrix, The Doors, Zappa, Floyd, etc, etc make it a more iconic time! My humble opinion of course. ✌

  • @umalaurenbowman7276
    @umalaurenbowman7276 3 роки тому +19

    I'm glad they kept the second, slower version. The faster one makes the song more happy and pop, without the "gravitas" that makes it hauntingly beautiful...

  • @dustermcclean2517
    @dustermcclean2517 2 роки тому +14

    One of the greatest songs ever played by the best band ever!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks ever so much for the great comment!

    • @dustermcclean2517
      @dustermcclean2517 2 роки тому

      @@Producelikeapro You're welcome. Thanks you too for doing great job.

  • @jophilippi1378
    @jophilippi1378 3 роки тому +83

    Actually for me at least one of the best songs ever written!!
    Next one should be „Where is my mind“ by The Pixies

  • @JasonArvanites
    @JasonArvanites 3 роки тому +18

    What impresses me, is that you can't judge a book by its cover. When you observe the footage of them playing it live, they look like a garage band of amateurs that don't know what they're doing. But in reality, they had it goin' on. Maybe that was the appeal.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +5

      Yes, A=an amazingly influential band!

    • @rayvaughan3197
      @rayvaughan3197 2 роки тому +1

      They were 'a garage band that doesnt know what its doing' but they kept 'doing' until they knew! And therein lies the appeal!

  • @jeffblack5024
    @jeffblack5024 3 роки тому +44

    I formed my first band after hearing this song in July 1980. It’s been downhill ever since. Later I moved to Manchester for unrelated reasons and found Hooky was one of my neighbours. Used to see him in the corner shop. Ain’t life strange?

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +9

      Wow! Thanks for sharing that Jeff! Yes, so many people started bands after hearing Joy Division! I did!!

  • @brendancronin3796
    @brendancronin3796 3 роки тому +11

    His vocal style always remind me of the walker brothers

  • @atrocityexhibition8490
    @atrocityexhibition8490 3 роки тому +86

    you should really do this charming man or there is a light that never goes out, this charming man has one of the most iconic guitar riffs and has beautiful lyrics and an amazing vocal performance by morrissey, there is a light that never goes out is just so iconic in every way, everything from the pretty high pitched guitar and absolutely fantastic lyrics about love and his amazing vocal performance as always.

    • @Alpha_7227
      @Alpha_7227 3 роки тому +5

      Definitely Light that never goes out, I love The smiths, they have a song for whatever mood I am in like the cure and the beatles. That's my definition of a great band. Having said that, Love will tear us apart is my equal number one song ever.

  • @andylikesstuffchannel
    @andylikesstuffchannel 2 роки тому +2

    I'm a child of the 80s loved New Older then when I got old enough found Joy devision genius

  • @newgutierrez7199
    @newgutierrez7199 Рік тому +9

    One of the greatest base lines and a great song.

  • @henno2218
    @henno2218 Рік тому +7

    This video may be two years old, but thank you so much for such a wonderful production surrounding one of the most beautifully haunting tracks of the past 50 years!

  • @sulladrum
    @sulladrum 3 роки тому +4

    Britain was so lucky as far as music. While this brilliant song was a chart-topper in the UK, it was only played on college radio in the US. In the early 80s, if you wanted to hear the Cure, Buzzcocks, New Order, or even DM and the Jam, college radio was your only option. The major stations were still playing 70s dinosaur bands. Most of the songs I loved in the early and mid-80s barely charted here.

  • @Dangenoir
    @Dangenoir Рік тому +1

    Can't imagine a world without it.

  • @thebteamgamingchannel5701
    @thebteamgamingchannel5701 3 роки тому +34

    I was in an 80's cover band over 15 years ago and this was one of the songs we covered, along with the Cure's "Just Like Heaven," and "Love Song." I was the band's bass player and those songs were so much fun for me to play because of their iconic bass lines. I have a greater appreciation for those songs now thanks to videos like this! Keep up the good work!

  • @Sweaty_Ken
    @Sweaty_Ken 3 роки тому +12

    The song that always makes me cry

  • @amhabereket
    @amhabereket 3 роки тому +15

    Indeed! That bass line played on its own is pure delight! Almost begs for a slowed, stripped version!

  • @sarahtonin4649
    @sarahtonin4649 3 роки тому +2

    Released May 18th, 1980? On that day I was in Portland, Oregon, standing on the back deck, listening to the great new music coming out in '79 and '80, like this song, and Talking Heads, XTC, The Cars, while watching the immense eruption of Mt St Helens. You could say that the '80s came in with a bang. I hadn't been that excited about new music since the '60s British Invasion.
    About that same period of time, I was recording a theme for a local TV talk show in a Portland 24 track studio. We recorded the drums one piece at a time, but not because of any production considerations, but because I'm not a drummer, and the client didn't want to pay for hiring one. 🙂

  • @jb8280
    @jb8280 3 роки тому +11

    Been my favorite song for decades now. Funny how my top three songs are all from the same era...
    Such an era it was.
    1. Love will tear us apart by Joy Division
    2. The Killing Moon by Echo and the Bunnymen
    3. Just like Honey by The Jesus and Mary Chain

  • @christianrichesmusic8101
    @christianrichesmusic8101 3 роки тому +9

    The bass line and the drums are the obvious stars on this record, however the keyboards especially in the verses are often overlooked. Create an incredible bed of atmospherics that allows the rest of the song to soar.

  • @ste.6026
    @ste.6026 3 роки тому +8

    Unknown Pleasure was possibly my most listened to LP in the early 80s. Echo & The Bunnymen "Killing Moon" should be on the list, Enjoying the series.

  • @The1stMrJohn
    @The1stMrJohn 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video series
    Much respect.
    Of interest maybe.....My father-in-law worked with Ian Curtis and He said that he very kind, caring, thoughtful and intelligent, but sometimes too intense and serious about certain things.
    The black & white film "Control" about his life is 100% accurate in the opening scene, where he leaves his house in Barton Street for the very short journey to the place of work in South Park Road(also the road where my wife to be lived with her dad, and later myself lived). They worked in some small council offices in Macclesfield, Cheshire. One of Ian's jobs was something to do with helping disabled people and adults with learning difficulties.
    When they filmed it all they had to do was to change the cars parked in the road to the correct period!
    We moved from Macclesfield twenty years ago but those roads still look the same, and a couple of the pubs are still there....but only just.

  • @tomasaki2298
    @tomasaki2298 Рік тому +3

    Its strange , you didn't mention hauntingly synth , that is so iconic for me , yet so simple but immediately recognizable , love it

  • @stefanblue660
    @stefanblue660 3 роки тому +23

    Now I begin to understand, they combined the mood of Velvet Underground and Nico with the raw energy of The Stooges and Sex Pistols and the elegant sound of Kraftwerk, listen to the drum sound of " Mensch Maschine, 1978, plus singing influence of David Bowie creating their unique new sound and the genre of New Wave and Gothic along with The Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees and others....The Gothic and new wave genre was also heavily influenced by German bands like Amon Düül, Can, Neu, Nina Hagen etc. today Rammstein, but that's another story.

  • @cdbrown30
    @cdbrown30 3 роки тому +22

    The strawberry studios version makes it so much more sorrowful sounding. Don’t believe there’s no other way.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion

    • @olivierlenfant124
      @olivierlenfant124 3 роки тому +1

      The first version works fine on verses, but not on chorus.

  • @kbuxtonator5052
    @kbuxtonator5052 2 роки тому

    Ian curtis was from my hometown, macclesfield. still the best thing to come from us and he is still very much spoken about to the extent that a mural was just painted on the side of a building in town.

  • @DIGITAL7Media
    @DIGITAL7Media 5 місяців тому

    The fact that they were so musically intermediate is why they were so good. It was simple. Emotional. Direct. Expressive and to the point.

  • @SynthManiaDotCom
    @SynthManiaDotCom 3 роки тому +274

    Awesome video, Warren! Thank you for the detailed breakdown and explanations. I'm a big fan too! For those interested in the keyboard high string sound, Joy Division used the "Violin" setting on a keyboard called "ARP Omni-2" which was a souped-up Solina String Ensemble that besides strings also had synth and synth bass sounds. It had separate outs and so it could be treated separately with the studio effects that Martin Hannett used

    • @r4x2
      @r4x2 3 роки тому +5

      Love you, Paolo!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +12

      Thanks ever so much SynthMania for that amazing information!!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +3

      @@r4x2 yes, great information!!

    • @SynthManiaDotCom
      @SynthManiaDotCom 3 роки тому +6

      @@Producelikeapro Very welcome, Warren and Ryan!! Thank you!! I'm a bit of "anorak" - like you guys say in the UK - about Joy Division, and have been researching Martin Hannett's / JD gear for a long time...

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +4

      @@SynthManiaDotCom thanks ever so much for the great info! Yes, I love ANORAKs! Lets get together and change the world!

  • @hypnotherapy69
    @hypnotherapy69 7 місяців тому +1

    I first heard this song in "Donnie Darko", and I just fell in love with it.

  • @philcory5043
    @philcory5043 2 роки тому +6

    I saw Joy Division with Ian Curtis at Erics in Liverpool not long before he died. They had a wirey intense sound and his performance and presence was quite startling. Great Video Dude 😎

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  2 роки тому +1

      Wow! Amazing! Would have loved to see that show!

  • @SamHepworth
    @SamHepworth 3 роки тому +10

    Finally someone gives Joy Division some recognition on UA-cam!
    EDIT: This is the best video so far

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks ever so much Sam! I LOVE Joy Division!

    • @SamHepworth
      @SamHepworth 3 роки тому +2

      @@Producelikeapro my previous band was called Live Transmission - named after their song Transmission

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      Sam Hepworth that’s amazing! Yes, Joy Division were Britain’s Velvet Underground

  • @Johnny-mb9vy
    @Johnny-mb9vy 3 роки тому +45

    Can you do some Stone Roses? You’ve done the Smiths and Joy Division might as well complete the Manchester holy trinity

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +11

      Marvellous idea!!

    • @janbures5203
      @janbures5203 3 роки тому +2

      @El Viola Feos no.

    • @johncollins5552
      @johncollins5552 3 роки тому +1

      @@Producelikeapro Thing about the Roses is the drummer was the best singer in the band as well as a gifted drummer playing a Mish mash 3 piece. Elephant Stone their first single on Silvertone label has one of the best drum intros of all time imo.
      Have a marvellous time!

    • @cormacjordan7173
      @cormacjordan7173 3 роки тому

      Errrm Buzzcocks?

  • @brookswoelfel4010
    @brookswoelfel4010 2 місяці тому

    Was first introduced to this song back in 2007 as a 5th grader when I watched the movie Donnie Darko, immediately fell in love with it

  • @rubberplantsandwich
    @rubberplantsandwich 2 місяці тому

    JD got me through the 80s. The 90s. The 00s, and now

  • @el1632
    @el1632 3 роки тому +9

    there is something haintingly beautiful and disturbing about all of joy division's songs- makes them one of my favourite bands ever

  • @joshdrewpic
    @joshdrewpic 3 роки тому +20

    YESSSSSSS!!!! Love Joy Division!! Damn good song choices on this series.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks ever so much Joshua!!

    • @joshdrewpic
      @joshdrewpic 3 роки тому

      @Luke Totally! He's even gotten me hip to new wave stuff I hadn't heard. Like Woman in Chains by Tears for Fears

  • @peterpattex5812
    @peterpattex5812 2 роки тому +2

    I loved this song as much as a 5 year old child as i love it today. Thx youtube for making me rediscover it.

  • @TheGuvOfWythenshawe
    @TheGuvOfWythenshawe 3 роки тому +2

    This was the first Joy Division song I listened to, and by the time I was in my early 20s I started to listen to more of their songs! R.I.P. Ian Curtis, gone but NEVER forgotten! Love Will Tear Us Apart!

  • @cjsilvestremusic
    @cjsilvestremusic 2 роки тому +6

    I prefer the Strawberry Studios version! Love this coverage. This band changed my life. Thank you!

  • @bluegreenglue6565
    @bluegreenglue6565 3 роки тому +4

    "...the myth that bass players have to do what they're told..." [Geddy Lee winking and giving a thumb's up] Speaking of...I think Rush's "Tom Sawyer" was a HUGE game-changer, from influencing rock fans like my brother to new wave "freaks" like myself. And now I'm still a new wave freak and listen to Rush at least weekly.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +1

      Haha yes! Indeed! My hats off to amazingly creative bass players!!

  • @dani.alvaro9280
    @dani.alvaro9280 2 місяці тому +1

    the best song ever written

  • @davidhunt7249
    @davidhunt7249 Рік тому

    I was into Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, Dave Edmunds, and many
    Punk bands at the time. I knew about Joy Division and didn't
    dismiss them, I merely wasn't in the loop. Now, decades later,
    the intrigue of the band hit me when I saw the movie "Control".
    I'm thinking, "Damn! I missed the present role of J.D. when it
    emerged and thrived".
    Now I eat up as much J.D. info as possible and this video
    goes into a depth of their music that I appreciate.
    Thank you for what you have compiled here.
    63 yo Yank. 👍🗣🎸

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 3 роки тому +3

    Peter Hook's tone is so unique because he plays so high. I was working at Tower Records in 2005. Gwen Stefani's solo debut was on the in-store stereo system. I was listening to the song "The Real Thing" and knew the bass line. It was Hooky! I could tell by the tone.
    I went to the CD's liner notes and, yup, Hooky!

  • @MarcABurns
    @MarcABurns 3 роки тому +20

    Great choice Warren

  • @charlietwotimes
    @charlietwotimes Рік тому

    This is the first track where, when it came on the radio, I told everyone to shut up. I loved it then + I still love it 43 years later. It got to No 1 in NZ & it felt like it was there for weeks. I bought the studio albums, Still, all the singles even the Komakino Flexi disc. Bootlegs, t shirts.. I like Unknown Pleasures but I LOVED Closer. I know the band didn't but it's like Curtis was trapped in amber, immortal & above the passage of time. Favourite album ever? Probably. And I've still got the original pressings w/original labels of them all. Fanboy doesn't begin to describe it.

  • @paultrussy4243
    @paultrussy4243 2 роки тому +1

    I live at an address that Ian passed by regularly during his school years. I have learnt Peter's bassline and can almost feel Ian's presence on the road outside as I play it.

  • @th3gr81
    @th3gr81 3 роки тому +3

    I feel it, Hooky. I feel the same way about playing bass.

  • @todddivel769
    @todddivel769 3 роки тому +7

    fantastic. I could talk about how much I love Martin and his production techniques for days.

  • @marksmithremix
    @marksmithremix Рік тому +2

    Spark's No. 1 In Heaven LP was also one of the records that Joy Division was mainly listening to in the making of the EP. More details in the sparks brothers documentary

  • @demonweber666
    @demonweber666 3 роки тому +3

    Can't recall any other band with such a limited catalog, have such a big influence on other artists.

  • @robgolding8218
    @robgolding8218 3 роки тому +25

    This was absolutely fascinating, and man that bass sounds sweet!

  • @zoeherriot
    @zoeherriot 3 роки тому +12

    I wonder if looking at "The Church" would be feasible - they don't have quite the audience of The Cure, but they have some interesting cross overs with Joy Division and The Cure. Melodic bass lines, heavy use of the Bass IV, and fantastic production. Great band.

    • @paulmiller1746
      @paulmiller1746 3 роки тому +3

      Great band Could even get a Bob Clearmountain perspective from the Blurred Crusade album or Steve’s thoughts on Bob

    • @zoeherriot
      @zoeherriot 3 роки тому

      @@paulmiller1746 That's an excellent thought. I think there are some really important production lessons to be learned in their work - with the way they interweave guitars and bass, but each instrument has it's own space in the mix. Absolutely fantastic.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +5

      Great idea Foniks! Definitely added to the list!!

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC 3 роки тому

      @@Producelikeapro Sweet! One of my favourite Aussie-formed bands!
      I say 'Aussie formed' because:
      Steve Kilbey ... from WGC, England; Peter Koppes & Richard Ploog ... two Dutch-Australians; Marty Willson-Piper ... from the Wirral, Merseyside. ;)
      Ackerdacker ... classic 1 was three Scottish guys and classic 2 was two Scottish guys, a an Essex lad and a Geordie!
      Easybeats: not a single Aussie among 'em: two Dutch guys, a Scottish guy, a Leeds lad and a Scouser!
      :D
      BTW ... great news that AckerDacker's getting back together ... and guess what .... two Scottish guys, an Essex lad and a Geordie! :D

  • @PaulYoungMinnesota
    @PaulYoungMinnesota 3 роки тому

    in 1983 I took a short scale tele bass copy, put the lightest strings on it, tuned it up a full step, round wound strings, pick, and I recorded songs with nothing but bass parts over dubbed -high-pitched double harmonizing and intertwining melodies were so much fun to play back on a small tape recorder

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 3 роки тому

    Fun fact: That Sex Pistols concert mentioned at 8:16 (June 4, 1976 at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester, England) is probably one of the most influential concerts of all time, as also present besides the guys who went on to form JD were some other guys who decided there and then to form/join bands which were also influential/successful: Howard Devoto and Pete Shelley went on to form Buzzcocks; Mark Smith went on to form The Fall; Steve Patrick Morrissey (later known simply as Morrissey) went on to form The Smiths; Mick Hucknall went on to form the punk band The Frantic Elevators which evolved into Simply Red.

  • @AleisterCrowleyMagus
    @AleisterCrowleyMagus Рік тому +3

    Thank you!! Excellent commentary!! This is an absolute GEM of new wave/post punk at its very best - it guts me, every time, to listen to the gorgeous soaring synths combined with Curtis’s baritone voice and dark, biting lyrics and realize that he *was going through it* as the kids say. At least four massive waves crashing in on him - the band breaking through, new fatherhood with such bewildering emotions and responsibilities, a deeply unhappy new and first young marriage - yes Debbie and Ian loved each other but they weren’t meant for each other so to say, and of course the absolute crush of his recent epilepsy diagnosis. In the NHS of the 70s, with the (limited) medications that were available, Ian was facing an incredibly brutal life path of dealing with his crushing depression and epilepsy plus trying to front a rock band on the verge of international stardom. And he’d written “She’s lost control” BEFORE his own diagnosis - after witnessing a girl with severe epilepsy fall to the ground in a massive seizure at his place of employment. Yikes. Thank the gods/goddesses of music that we have this musical gem to light our path.

  • @SilentAssassin01234
    @SilentAssassin01234 3 роки тому +146

    You must do The Smiths, Kate Bush, New Order!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +20

      Yes, yes and YES!!

    • @petarbozovic5450
      @petarbozovic5450 3 роки тому +9

      @@Producelikeapro Stone Roses??

    • @SweatpantsPG
      @SweatpantsPG 3 роки тому +6

      Big boi from outkast turned me on to kate bush and I'm so grateful.

    • @CRegion
      @CRegion 3 роки тому

      Do want!

    • @done1675
      @done1675 3 роки тому +2

      @@SweatpantsPG I love that. I was shocked when I heard him say that he was a fan and it's great that his love of her music exposed her artistry to you. Enjoy!

  • @maximliubavin6936
    @maximliubavin6936 3 роки тому +1

    Incredible channel! Thank you for finding me!

  • @southerner4566
    @southerner4566 3 роки тому +2

    This is one song where the B side is every bit as good as the A side, These days still stands up as a great song and probably deserved to have been released as a single .

  • @eccentricexploringape1246
    @eccentricexploringape1246 3 роки тому +4

    Once again Neu! quietly being one of the greatest bands ever

  • @henrytate5206
    @henrytate5206 3 роки тому +5

    I often joke to my Dad that Peter Hook was the lead guitarist for Joy Division, always cracks him up lol.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      Haha it’s a good argument!!

    • @glennbarr5459
      @glennbarr5459 3 роки тому

      @@Producelikeapro Peter Hook played his bass as if it were a baritone guitar. Was it me, or did he never hit the lower registers of the instrument?

    • @kierandyer-LeavingAtDawn
      @kierandyer-LeavingAtDawn 3 роки тому +1

      @@glennbarr5459 he definitely did on songs such as Digital, Shadowplay and Transmission but yes his high register playing is his iconic style which he shall always be remembered for.

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ 3 роки тому +1

    I had a Yamaha BB-1200 back in '83.
    While I was travelling in India in '82 my Wal and my Rickenbacker (fretless) were stolen from muy house back in Blighty.
    When I got back, I had no bass ...
    I sold my Korg MS-20 and bought the 1200 to gig with.
    Lovely bass, very Precision like but with a Through Neck and a wider tone range.
    Slapped like a Mofo too.
    I gigged it for a good few years.
    Eventually I found another Wal, that I could afford, and moved the 1200 on.

  • @robertrowan9893
    @robertrowan9893 11 місяців тому +1

    Browsing through a Preston charity shop's book section a few months since, I chanced upon a certain Stephen Morris' book - The Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist. Even more so than True Faith and their respective back catalogue - it's this single alone that made me pick it up and part company with a couple of quid. Value at twice the price.
    Needless to say, like the highlighted single, and this video (credit where it's due) - the book didn't disappoint either. In fact, where mental health is at least a more mainstream subject, it's very much a product of its time and from where the parties involved largely hailed from. That's why, music in general and the mini - docs that they in turn spawned keep me, another lad from the rainy, post- industrial North-West on the right side of insanity.
    May that, in one part at least - strike out this video as another aspect of Ian Curtis' worthwhile legacy.
    And let's face it, the bass rules too. Doesn't it just.

  • @anthonyk5496
    @anthonyk5496 3 роки тому +8

    Tony Wilson: Martin? What you doing?
    Martin Hannett: Recording. Silence.
    Wilson: You’re recording silence?
    Hannett: No. Now I’m recording Tony fucking Wilson.

  • @paoloernesto2591
    @paoloernesto2591 3 роки тому +3

    The film Control is a wonderful work and helped me to get to know Curt's life and the Joy Division story.

  • @arlet9788
    @arlet9788 3 роки тому +2

    When I discovered joy Division I was very young (I was 15, now I am 22) and the band had such an impact on me since that first day I listened to them that I don't think I'll ever get tired of it. The lyrics and melodies are so haunting that haven't been able to forget that first time I listen to them, I always keep coming back to their music. It's brilliant.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks ever so much for sharing!

    • @liamchristopher1218
      @liamchristopher1218 3 роки тому +1

      I found them at 15, now 17. Still listen to unknown pleasures and closer on repeat every couple of days.

  • @derekrobinson8955
    @derekrobinson8955 3 роки тому +6

    I can't help but shed a tear everytime I think of Ian. I know I will never understand his struggles, I just know he had them. I doubt him ever knowing the success of his band would have changed the outcome, but it fucking breaks my heart knowing he'll never know how many people he's touched with his lyrics, his band, his voice and his dancing. I hope he's resting easy now.

  • @dexsmith1864
    @dexsmith1864 3 роки тому +4

    "Video Killed The Radio Star " - the start of TH's journey into iconic production techniques. The first time I had ever heard this type of bass drum sound.

  • @theauntiewarhol
    @theauntiewarhol 3 роки тому +3

    I love Peter and he definitely deserves tons of props for this bassline ... but to me the "star" of this song will always be Bernard's string line on the ARP Omni.

  • @Blatty26
    @Blatty26 3 роки тому +2

    If you guys want to learn more about Joy division, the podcast No Dogs in Space has a 3 part series in joy division! About an hour and a half a piece. Really great deep dive

  • @Saybleu
    @Saybleu Рік тому

    Stephen Morris is an unstoppable force. Unreal.

  • @juanpabloangel5929
    @juanpabloangel5929 3 роки тому +14

    You should really do Blue Monday. I think is one of the songs that changed music for quite a few years

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +8

      I agree 100%!! Amazing song

    • @Jimking666
      @Jimking666 3 роки тому

      Also recorded at Britannia Row, Islington.

  • @HitTheRoadMusicStudio
    @HitTheRoadMusicStudio 3 роки тому +13

    This song is just wonderful ! What a incredible series Warren ✌

  • @code-bleu3492
    @code-bleu3492 3 роки тому +2

    Definitely one of the most beautiful songs ever, as well as one of the saddest. "Why is the bedroom so cold?" Just a devastating line. And the title is one of the greatest of all time.

  • @trevorbarre5616
    @trevorbarre5616 3 роки тому +2

    I remember getting it in my record shop when it came out, and thinking "oven ready classic" (or words to that effect). Instantly memorable, just like The Only One's "Another Girl, Another Planet", a couple of years earlier.

  • @Ben-nx7yy
    @Ben-nx7yy 3 роки тому +8

    Penine version drums sound disco-ey and the strawberry version sounds dreamy specially cause the reverb in the synth

  • @Reprodestruxion
    @Reprodestruxion 3 роки тому +17

    Influenced David Bowie himself with Scary Monsters and Super Creeps

    • @Alchemedia
      @Alchemedia 3 роки тому +1

      VU influenced them all!

    • @Reprodestruxion
      @Reprodestruxion 3 роки тому +2

      Scott Lawrence Whitman i mean this song’s direct influence , kthxbai

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  3 роки тому +2

      @@Alchemedia Yes, huge fan!!

    • @Reprodestruxion
      @Reprodestruxion 3 роки тому

      Produce Like A Pro yes and John Cale’s Rosegarden funeral of Sores and Nico’s Marble index and desert shore, guy thinks we just listened to music yesterday

  • @SLG493
    @SLG493 Рік тому +1

    Greatest song of all time.

  • @jamesanderson348
    @jamesanderson348 3 роки тому +2

    I remember dancing in the clubs when this came out. It was melancholy with a good beat. A great song