Democracy as a system of government in its current form has failed across all developing countries. Politicians are rewarded for pandering to voters’ immediate demands and desires, to the detriment of growth over the long term. Democratic systems encourage such short-termism, it will be difficult to solve many of the seemingly intractable structural problems slowing global growth without an overhaul of democracy. From an article in foreignpolicy dot com Why Democracy Doesn’t Deliver Endless elections, unqualified leaders, uninformed voters, and short-term thinking are impeding economic growth.
@@pahay8735 Absolutely...maybe a hybrid system like China had been better...A central committee where leaders r chosen on merit rather than their skill to appease.
@@prashanttiwari5686 Kanpur was once called manchester of east bro.. We created a so called premier city & ruined which was actually one. It only shows how ill plannned & short sighted our administrators hv bn
I live in China and this is very true. They always try to be ahead of their deadlines. They redeveloped their footpaths (which seemed well built as per our standards) of an entire metro city in just 6 months. They always say 'Time is money' and they stick to it!
@@codenamevisage saw 60 floor building completed in 8 months.i lived in a city called Tianjin. 1.5 crore ppl live there but planned so well. Public transport ..city busses .Even have been to beijing delhi metro network seems small when you compare. i know they are authoritarian but we have to appreciate their good things.
We are blessed with illiterate politicians and illiterate junta, angrezo ke zamane ka ICS I.e IAS and khichdi democracy we care more about Cricket ,Bollywood films .
@@taysoonpoh9783 I would say its an easy way out for talented Indians to get out of the corrupt shit hole and make decent living elsewhere , on the other hand it is sad to see this happening as our late president sir Abdul Kalam once said "The biggest problem India is facing is not corruption or over population , it is Brain Drain of the Country" , If all the well educated graduates leave the country then who will fix the country!!! . In short India is Fucked unless , this brain drain stops. Blessed are those who stay and fight!.
its not about being educated, its all about greed for power and money. There is no sense of responsibility from these politicians towards people, they are supposed to be servants, yet they live like kings over common people.
illiterate politicians have managed 18 % of the world's population for 70+ years without falling apart and also got the democracy thing going........... no where in the history of this world that many people has been controlled for so long with democracy going....only 1 country managed that many people china , but that does not have democracy........ so called engineer politicians of USSR, educated according to your standards failed .... USSR did not lose any battle.... but they simply politically crumbled... engineer politicians could not keep them together... .please understand no where in the history of this world that many people had been kept under control with democracy.... there is no example for our indian politicians to follow..... what ever they hav done they hav done it for the first time in the history of this world............. do u get it.........(they have no common questions in the exam... no question bank to follow before appearing for board exam)...yet they hav succeeded.......our country's goal was never to hav high growth.......... just remember all the politicians said this same line ,everyone who sat in the cm or pm chair... desh tutna nehi cahiye......... that is the only aim....in recent years it has been growth.... since our neighbouring countries are developing.... u hav to grow... to secure yourself.... thats y this new target so what is the lesson........... a politician does not need to be a educated person..if that would hav been the criteria then einstein would have been the prime minister of germany instead of hitler.... the only criteria for a politician is that he should understand the pulse of people's heart thats all........ and as u all know reading peoples heart does not hav any formulae... and there are no courses offered by universities about that subject ... so u cant learn or get a degree about that field............. so the subject is hard isnt it??????????????
Now you know our problems in Bengaluru. Finally you understand our plight with CTC episode. IT crowds pay taxes, Middle class uses dug up potholed, useless roads and suffer to reach office, but BBMP uses our taxes to look after Sadashivnagar and Vidanasoudha areas for the politicians. Middle class suffers while paying taxes. Poor get doles, BBMP uses funds to deliver to rich politicians in tony areas. Metro was brought to Kanakapura thanks to DK Shivakumar while depriving the IT community of their much needed roads. Now KJ George has managed to get 2 metro stations for his investment in Manyata tech parks. Question is why is bengaluru development dependent on politicians investments in areas?
Excellent. But in the same time we feel sorry for us. Tragic part is some people are hooked by what's the capital of Illinois and not the matter of this subject.
Thank you for talking about this sir. Urban planning as idealistic a field as they come and is extremely entrenched in political realities of the region. The disconnect between enforcement and planning leads to the opposite of the intention - increasing suffering of the denizens of the area. As a practicing economic development planner in Illinois, US (studied in Delhi) I have many issues/qualms about the state of city planning in India - ranging from planning education to research to lack of mechanisms that ensure that political leaders dont supersede the technical experts. My only hope is to eventually see a better, regional outlook to these problems which takes these issues beyond one political jurisdiction and hence reduces some political involvement. P.S - Capital of Illinois is Springfield.
Sir, Really informative. Am living in Bengaluru for the past 1 year. Could really visualize all your observations. I am a kolkata man. Would like a similar critique of kolkata also. This is the my 1st comment on any youtube video and yours is my first subscription. More Power to you.
@@prashanttiwari5686 "Dead" lol in your dreams. People who don't live or work here make expert opinions. Here education affordable, public transport reliable and so is last mile connectivity. Water crisis is unheard of and traffic is better managed than most Indian metros. Though sidewalks encroachment and overhead wires need to be sorted. Infact it can be safely said that Kolkata was the first properly planned city in subcontinent developed by Job Charnock in 1692.
@@arnabbera2562 yes and it seems u still live in 1962...Rajiv Gandhi cleared said this was a dying city and that too back in 1984...there are hardly any educational institutions here that offer any placement...I don't know what u study but for people who want a technical degree(btech students like me)Kolkata is a nightmare....literally every person who has the means available tries to move to Bangalore or Pune....as for traffic Kolkata is safe due to the lesser number of personal vehicles owned by people...compare that too Bangalore where per capita income is 3 times that of a person in Bengal and so many people afford a personal vehicle...there is a mass migration of the cream students to other cities...soon this city will be nothing more than a holiday home for well of people who come here just for the old feel and vacations... PS: I have been living here for a full 18 years ..far more than I wished...I live in tollygunge btw...meet up if u want😂
A well researched and presented talk. As a Bengalurean, I can appreciate the challenges the city has. The infra sucks. The garbage piles up at every corner. Yes the roads are perpetually dug up. The roads are laid....and soon thereafter BWSSB comes and digs it up again. They complete their job, do a shoddy patch up...only to see BESCOM coming a few days later to dig it up again. Flyovers are under construction for perpetuity. The solution at the end is great. Have these large metros, be declared as Mayor run 'City States', and move the state capital away from these cities. However, don't know for sure as to how many of the political entities would be keen on administering a state, minus these cash cows. These centers are what keep their cash boxes ringing. A good suggestion, however with minimal chance of ever being accepted let alone being implemented.
the issue i see is every city is divided between MLA , MP and then corporators there is no centralised authority with for the city to take decisions .( feel free to comment)
I am sure that people from Bangalore have been screaming their heads off for years that Karnataka is the most corrupt state you can find. No one has even heard us (let alone listen). Just imagine how much better both Bangalore and Mysore would have been if the international airport were between the two cities. Corruption destroys a society at every level.
I agree corruption is the root cause of all problems in India. But I see that there is a bit of support for AAM AADMI PARTY and I think only AAP can save the cities from turning into dump yards
@@chandan4156 AAP is just another political party, not much special about it. For making actual progress, our system has to incentivize issue based politics over ideology based politics..
Garbage is identity of India, indian in general love garbage. This is rude reality of Indian. They keep their house clean but dump infront of their gate
@@rinyapura9858 Because municipality does not work here unfortunately...Leaving no other option to throw the garbage at some distance from one's house...
Sirji you have very high hopes on Mayor system. In delhi we have one. He delayed metro system by withholding land 1.5 kms. He did not buy buses. He gave free water whereas he could have given 24x7 portal water. List is long. Problem is 'We The People'. If we are happy with free water, we will get 'free water' and if we demand 24x7 portable water, we will get it. 'We The People' of Delhi will decide in the next election, we want freebies or services. Per Capita GDP on PPP basis puts Delhite in middle income country on its own. Still we want freebies. Good luck. In democracy 'We The People' get the leaders that we deserve.
First big cities like Mumbai Bangalore Hyderabad Chennai Delhi Calcutta should given UT like status and taxes should be collected directly Union govt. & projects should be union government. There should a commercial capital, judicial capital, legislative capital and executive capital for every state and union. Communication and connectivity improved between this cities Once approved project by government directly go for Financial review before CAG or or JPC (parliament body) and passed within three months and once approved project should not stopped no matter what. Unless national emergency like war.....
Most sensible comment. Also politically city mayor heads should be empowered. People must make their mayors accountable. How many people even vote for municipal elections. Mayor's with exemplary work should be made potential CM or PM candidates. This hierarchy is followed meticulously in China.
thank you for this informative series of videos, Mr. Gupta and ThePrint team. they really help me get a better sense of what the ground realities are, what the actual problems are, what different parties' motivations are, etc while sitting here in the US. your videos thankfully don't have much of a political/ partisan bent. and yes, Springfield is the capital of Illinois, Irvine is in CA as one of the other comments pointed out.
Yes! This pepul tree has ruined my town. Everywhere there is a pepul tree discovered they make a temple around it... Like in the middle of the road! And no one can cut it. When will civil sense prevail over religious insecurities?
If religion is helping save the tress, I am on board with the proselytizers and evangelists. After all what is civic* sense without the sense of wanting to save nature?
@@darshangowda9347 Trees? Nope. Just one kind of tree. Never seen any religious agitation when trees are cut and forests vanish. Green peace & tribal agitation to save forests are not religious.
@@darshangowda9347 bro I'm from north India and i face these traffic jams every day because one side of the road is blocked because someone constructed a temple around a pepal tree occupying half the road. I'm not against temples - why should I be? But roads are important too.
Same can be told about cities in USA where so many Mumbaikars/Maharashtrians are queuing up like termites. They are responsible for decaying those cities too
Bihar and eastern up is utter failure they literally have one member of family member either in delhi mumbai or kolkata. Iam from north east and when u realise truck load of people travel so far even in north east for laboir work then somethig is wrong there.
Dear Shekar, Welcome to Bangalore. You mentioned to be in Bangalore. You got the right issue. Infact, it is very slightly better in the last 2 months. In fact, People of certain localities protested in Public hence some action has been initiated. There has to be a independentRoad Repair and Restoration body as a single point to approve any dug ups and ensure it is fixed. All the departments wanting to dig up should take approval and pay up the estimated amount to fix it upfront the this body and such a body should be responsible for filling and laying new road
Being from Bangalore I'm fed up with this from past 10 years it's messed up. I believe it had the potential of being top cities of world but bcz of this political turmoil and lack of will. Before 10 years it was ranked above tokyo i remember as a kid reading it and today I feel for what have they done to it.
@@rajeshdaviyal4602 Please stop blaming your parents but am glad you consider this place as home tho lol. For starters, you can improve the conditions of your home in any possible manner.
Any city that has grown at the same rate as Bengaluru is sure to have many of these same issues. The influx of humanity greatly outpaces the city's resources, even as they are being developed. So, forever, the planners are shooting behind the duck. Bengaluru's population in the last two decades has progressed from 57 lakh to 85 lakh to probably 120 lakh by next census. If it takes 10 years to build a metro line, the coverage in planned capacity and route maps are off by 30 - 40 lakh people. If we add political dither, it is no wonder that public works are mired. The paradigm of separating the political capital from the business centers in the US by at least one day's ride by horse carriage was apparently adopted to minimize big businessmen from meddling in government affairs (which is an excellent thing in itself). Planning for future development is fraught with political peril. The money investments are extremely large and if the anticipated growth does no materialize, the projects will be deemed wasteful. The Karnataka government should perhaps be moved out of Bengaluru to a part of the state that needs focus for development, perhaps Manyakheta (Malkhed, the capital city of the Chalukyas) with a rich history but currently not much economic development. This would help that part of the state's economy and allow Bengaluru to grow without so much political oversight.
Honestly, "Bangalore" is acceptable...even "Karnatak" without the "A" is fine if you're talking in Hindi, because that's how it's said in the language. It's only when you use the Hindi pronunciation while talking in English, that most of us get rubbed the wrong way...and even that has to do more with North Indian (BIMARU to be precise) hegemony, than anything else. Just my two cents on the issue.
Every year BMC gets around 30k crores in its budget listing the projects they're going to spend the money on. How many of those projects actually get implemented? Is there any record?
@@ayeluru Hyderabad and Warangal can be linked together like Pune and Mumbai but I don't think making Warangal a capital would be a better move. You may have some point in your suggestion but Hyderabad itself have large empty land at its surroundings.
This issue was worth decluttering After all those Maharashtra politics news this was a breath of fresh air Please keep making the videos on such topics which most of the journalist ignores
Even though this state is full of Stikes and Hartals, Kerala managed to separate it's biggest city Kochi and it's capital Trivandrum, but I can't boast about any infrastructure marvels. Still the metro here was completed in a record time
Bangalore you are talking about the most corrupt public services system in india it will compete with the worst in African states in corruption. Its been a known reality for decades and has become worse. Politicians take money from contractors and contractors can't finish the job and they really don't care. These state level projects across India are nothing visionary or actual infrastructure building or providing convenience to citizens, these are money making projects for both politicians and politicians in the states. From Bihar to Bangalore its the same. So outside central projects in India its still 1980's. Unless the Double engine sarkar like UP comes about across India ....these Indians won't learn or prosper or deliver.
No... Gandhinagar is just a suburb of ahmedabad (less than 10kms away from border of ahmedabad)....dholera & GIFT in between will create an urban weld and fuse up all the 4 cities into one.
If they make diff city as state capital,it will create another 15-20 cities in india which is going drive our economy. 10 crore people can live der and will take the burden from big cities. In WB,der is only Kolkata. Ty cld hv built Durgapore or Siliguri as a big city but no. They hv not done anything like that.
Indians should focus on infrastructure instead of Hindu/Muslim jumlas. China has 40 cities with Metros. India only has 10 cities with Metros. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems
One of the better episodes from Shekhar focusing on the development challenges India faces. Your phenomenal wisdom, perspective and decades long experience is on display here. I think you you should stick such topics rather than covering Pakistan or bashing Imran Khan. By the way, the Capital of Illinois is Springfield, not Irvine (sorry, couldn’t let this go having lived in Illinois for 30 years).
I agree Bangalore needs better infra. The fact that it is dug up also means the city is continuously updating itself given that it is growing at unprecedented rates. Despite all this how is it that Bangalore still scores well on livability (relatively)? Also, thank God Mysore hasn't gone the Pune way since it's too close to our forests. I wouldn't want Hinjewadi type of development near Bandipur. Also have to think if natural resources (water) can sustain a Bangalore and Pune next to each other. On time taken for meetings. Next time you land in Mumbai, try a meeting in Goregoan and then next in fort and try making it back to the airport to fly out. The beauty of Bangalore is that you can live next to your place of work, which means it's more spread out as a city so you are traversing large distances if you are hopping from one business center to next. Finally, the only time I've had breezy travel through Delhi is at 2am. I don't think we can stereotyp mega cities on traffic coz it doesn't hold up anymore. Do balance your commentary when you speak of Bangalore like you do when you speak of Delhi.
Very informative video sir....we need such videos before an election so that people know the facts and are able to question there representatives based on them
Decentralizing availability of employment opportunities is the answer to infrastructure issues in Major Metropolitan Cities. Spread industries to tier 2 or tier 3 cities, create a network of IT firms over whole state rather than concentrating on Single City. Reduce the population density in big cities and spread it over a larger region.
I still wonder why companies flock to this mismanaged infrastructure city... Other reason why bnglr is like it is now, bcoz of private housing projects and landlords who have exploited and encashed the growth even before govt had planned infrastructure development around those areas
Solution is to stop population migration to just few cities 4 Metro's +Hyderabad and Banglore Totally - 5 Cities for 150 crore population We need to develop and need new invistments to other tyre 2 cities and other state capitals (Develop Three cities each in bigger states and 2 cities in small state's)
@ResearchShyVids Gwalior which is 300 km from Delhi can be developed as sister city to Delhi .
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That's why india can't become Super power. some time i think we should drop this fake democracy become like china. in china is people can't get justice, is their cities ,ministers like this???? but for common people china system is good go work bright future for kids clean cities cheap and indigenous items etc. only problem when you speak against government what why i complaint if i have good job, bright future for my kids, cheap and good transport, no dirty politics if this is all you get in under one party or communist rule it's good. because some time you feel we are free in democracy we can say anything we want what not have basic facilities then why not communism if they can.
There is an issue with such kind of system as in china, It works well only when the party and top leaders are thinking more about country or at-least as much for the country as for themselves. The moment one detector minded person holds the throne all is gone. example North Korea and of-course the fall of soviet union.
Sir who is interested in development of Bangalore?😢 They are all interested in language politics, hope all know how they forced to remove Hindi name boards from metro stations.
vinod raj yes we value our languages in south India. We respect all the languages mentioned on the Indian currency and we also expect our neighbours to understand it. Tamilnadu, kerala and Hindi speaking states are equal for us.
Savitha KL Tamilnadu is a great state 👍🏼 but Karnataka has its own individuality unlike many states who fight against innocent Tamil people for not accepting Hindi language. Karnataka people are the true believers of Bharathas motive - unity in diversity. The fact is few decades back Tamilians were an integral part of building Bengaluru.
1. Language 2. Religion 3. Colour 4. Appearances 5. Mindset Almost everything is diverse. America with black people, jews, christians and asians are managing to live together. They have the highest GDP and most advanced technologies. What is stopping us? Is it diversity or Just mindset?
Good analysis. Hyderabad metro had progressed well and brought relief to commuters. It's airport has the best connectivity both domestic and international. I had envisaged this city becoming India's first truly world class city but not so sure anymore .
16:21 That's the very reason why Telangana wanted to be separated. The caste power struggle between Naidus and Reddys was hindering everybody's growth but andhra people are blinded by caste. Unfortunately for Andhra, no progress can be expected as long as these two castes are in power.
@samudra gupta Hyderabad was never a sleepy town , just becouse it was not congested and suffocative like other cities doesn't mean it's a small town. you can go back and check at the time it was made part of andhra. In fact i would argue these regressive politics of those castes hindred the natural progress of the city.It has all the natural advatages to grow those poltical groups only developed areas or projects when they could take advantage for thier narrow benefit.
Mr. Shekhar Gupta, you are either misled badly or lying through your teeth on the NICE Road. NICE Road is India's largest land grab project. It was sanctioned by Deve Gowda when he was briefly the Chief Minister of Karnataka. The land was given at Re.1 per acre and along 130 kilometers from Bangalore to Mysore [more than 40,000 acres was transferred]. Mr. Ramesh, who was the PWD Secretary at that time was the prime mover for the project. He retired from the Government immediately after the land was given on a BOO [Build - Own - Operate] model and went on to join Nandi Infrastructure. NICE got this deal since they misrepresented to the Government that they were actually a US based company and were backed by strong US promoters. The whole representation was a hoax. The project was proposed in a 1995 Trade Mission led by then Massachusetts Governor. The promoters were three Limited Companies - In the US, companies are Inc [Incorporated] and not Limited. Without checking on the promoters, huge tracts of land was committed. You rightly said that Mr. Baba Kalyani was the key investor. He invested his personal funds in this project [not the Kalyani Group]. He is a Lingayat and the key movers in this scam were all Lingayats [it is a different issue that the beneficiary politicians & administrators belonged to all castes and parties]. The land acquisition process between Mysore and Bangalore was completed within a few months. The farmers along the alignment lost their land for measly compensation. When activists [including me] protested in a court mandated public hearing, we were arrested by the Deve Gowda government for objecting development. SM Krishna came much later. Deve Gowda, both as CM and later as PM, advised us to stop protesting against development projects and co-operate with the government. With court cases as an excuse, NICE has just completed a ring road covering half of Bangalore's perimeter [53.3 KMs]. They are charging exorbitantly for this small stretch. The company has apparently sold or gifted [to friendly politicians] or kept land banks to themselves and are no longer speaking about any Bangalore - Mysore connectivity. There are unproven allegations that SM Krishna got substantial land gifts and he aided the company strategically when he was the CM. The same accusations are leveled against many politicians who were leading the state between 1995 and 2010. Deve Gowda, only this decade realized that he had sanctioned the largest land grab project and he was apparently not a beneficiary. The land was acquired from his Vokkaliga community farmers. He raved and ranted for some time before the elections. He is now silent about the project, as are his is sons - one can only concur reasons for their silence. The company has skillfully misused our courts and our Constitutional process to get the land and not build the project. Each acre of land costs roughly 1 crore to 5 crores along the stretch. You can understand how much public money got transferred. We still comment on Bofors and Adarsh - they are chicken feed in comparison. Indisputable facts are that some people got 40,000 acre of land at Re.1 / acre. The land must value at not less than 6 lakh crores. They built a small stretch of ring road. They are now not speaking about the Bangalore - Mysore Expressway. The state government is neither asking them to build or return the land. The government's writ does not extend even to regulate the toll collected. This is the true story about India's urban infrastructure.
sir all that is okay, but the trees were not planted well. more than half have died. and to begin with, less 75% of the trees cut were only transplanted.....we can build on our thoughts with ignorance and paint over the picture. live in la la land and say everything is going to be alright....
Still people in cities have better facilities than people in villages. If you provide better education and all necessities to the people of village of smaller cities, you won't get those people shifted to big cities. Big Cities aren't colonies of state's, indeed state's are colonies of these big cities because people in big cities get everything easily while life in villages use to be more difficult still you call villagers beneficiaries, I guess I have different opinion on that Shekhar Sir.... Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰 and Happy Eid ♥️♥️
The US population is overwhelmingly urban (83% vs 34% for India), and so are their voters. India is not going to be an urban country for a long time. We need to negotiate and redistribute powers between cities and states.
On a lighter note perhaps we should hand over the supervision of city infra to IKEA. From the moment you enter it's Hyderabad outlet gates , to the exit , you forget you are in India - unless of course you visit on a weekend when the crowds make it impossible for you to do so.The design and construction quality are like their outlets anywhere in the world .
I will add to Shekhar Gupta’s analysis 1) Currently according to the financial commission report, concerning devolution of central taxes to states, you will notice that most of the money goes to underdeveloped states like UP and Bihar. You will notice that in the formula for how the central funds are allocated, there is a factor for proximity to financial centres or cities and states like Maharashtra, Karnataka and others lose their share of taxes on this factor that Mumbai and Bengaluru are part of these states. So whatever money is allocated to developed and industrialised states is too little, as if they are being punished for having too many industries. So this whatever little money they have, they can’t build top quality infrastructure as they have to think about the whole state and not just the city. Separating the city administratively and appointing a mayor might offer some solution but it’s not enough if more funds are not allocated from the central funds transfer to these cities. 2) Delhi gets a lot of funds from the centre, again see the finance commission report. It is also a showcase city as events such as Commonwealth games and Asian games held 30 years back and maybe Olympics will be planned for 30 years in the future. All this means massive money keeps getting pumped into Delhi for all kinds of projects. Sreedharan, the metro man was appointment for Mumbai metro and he left the project saying that the Maharashtra government is slack in asking for funds from the central government. So even the metro man Sreedharan couldn’t change that. 3) A minor clarification that Mumbai’s trains are not a century old and neither is the infrastructure. It has been refurbished quite often and Mumbai has all new trains thanks to the MUTP projects. However the growing number of slums, people and development has meant that building transport without decongesting the city itself will have no effect. It will keep being crowded.
I completely agree with you, Mr Gupta. What about the idea of making all major metropolitan regions states like Delhi, instead of Mayoralties (as India seriously lacks the Mayoral culture). And then have the existing states move their capitals elsewhere? Given that kejriwal was not approved for a Mayoral level meeting from urban leaders across the world shows we don't have any sense of what a Mayoralties are.
Telangana is so lucky... our Infrastructure progress is in a rapid speed.... due to stable govt.... Thank You TRS 😊 All projects are getting completed...
As an Arey activist myself who is on the ground everyday, let me tell all your viewers that all the trees that were supposed to be cut are not cut. Only a portion has been cut. Also, the compensation you're talking of, all those replanted trees are dead. I'm not even getting into the debate of the quality of centuries old trees vs. newer trees. Thirdly, if this carshed is allowed inside Arey, it'll be a Trojan horse that will consume entire Arey. The vulture builder lobby is just waiting and no one can trust politicians when they see their monetary profits. Also, let me remind everyone that there are better alternate sites for the carshed available. It's nothing but a dirty conspiracy. What good is the development of our future generations can't breathe the air?
Completely agree. Top 20 cities of the country must be nationalized with all the 20 directly elected mayors reporting directly to the City Minister at the centre holding a cabinet rank reporting directly to the prime minister
just a pointer, why does not Congress make states where its in power have Mayor. Just shows how serious they are themselves about their manifesto. That's why you should not care about their manifesto, not because they have just 52 seats. They get 52 seats because for them promises and manifesto are a way to appease all never to be taken seriously.
You see wealth is relative, so how will the rich people feel rich if it is not for the slums and poverty around themselves? Plus they also need cheap labour and fix.
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We will see the same documentary even in 2030
Na thats too soon.
2050
Here iam in 2021
bengaluru- Im forever dug up .
Kanpur - Hold my Spade..
Democracy as a system of government in its current form has failed across all developing countries.
Politicians are rewarded for pandering to voters’ immediate demands and desires, to the detriment of growth over the long term.
Democratic systems encourage such short-termism, it will be difficult to solve many of the seemingly intractable structural problems slowing global growth without an overhaul of democracy.
From an article in foreignpolicy dot com Why Democracy Doesn’t Deliver
Endless elections, unqualified leaders, uninformed voters, and short-term thinking are impeding economic growth.
Kanpur is a 3rd grade city unlike Bangalore which is our so called premier city of india
@@pahay8735 Absolutely...maybe a hybrid system like China had been better...A central committee where leaders r chosen on merit rather than their skill to appease.
@@prashanttiwari5686 Kanpur was once called manchester of east bro.. We created a so called premier city & ruined which was actually one. It only shows how ill plannned & short sighted our administrators hv bn
We should not normalise 5 year delays. China gets stuff done 2-3 years in advance.
yes.. have seen that first hand
They are commie and there are no activist and NGOs.
@@smitraninga Can you elaborate on your experience?
I live in China and this is very true. They always try to be ahead of their deadlines. They redeveloped their footpaths (which seemed well built as per our standards) of an entire metro city in just 6 months.
They always say 'Time is money' and they stick to it!
@@codenamevisage saw 60 floor building completed in 8 months.i lived in a city called Tianjin. 1.5 crore ppl live there but planned so well. Public transport ..city busses .Even have been to beijing delhi metro network seems small when you compare. i know they are authoritarian but we have to appreciate their good things.
We are blessed with illiterate politicians and illiterate junta, angrezo ke zamane ka ICS I.e IAS and khichdi democracy we care more about Cricket ,Bollywood films .
The sad truth is that brilliant and competent Indians can only thrive outside India....Google and Microsoft....
@@taysoonpoh9783 I would say its an easy way out for talented Indians to get out of the corrupt shit hole and make decent living elsewhere , on the other hand it is sad to see this happening as our late president sir Abdul Kalam once said "The biggest problem India is facing is not corruption or over population , it is Brain Drain of the Country" , If all the well educated graduates leave the country then who will fix the country!!! . In short India is Fucked unless , this brain drain stops. Blessed are those who stay and fight!.
its not about being educated, its all about greed for power and money. There is no sense of responsibility from these politicians towards people, they are supposed to be servants, yet they live like kings over common people.
Because we elect them
illiterate politicians have managed 18 % of the world's population for 70+ years without falling apart and also got the democracy thing going........... no where in the history of this world that many people has been controlled for so long with democracy going....only 1 country managed that many people china , but that does not have democracy........ so called engineer politicians of USSR, educated according to your standards failed .... USSR did not lose any battle.... but they simply politically crumbled... engineer politicians could not keep them together...
.please understand no where in the history of this world that many people had been kept under control with democracy.... there is no example for our indian politicians to follow..... what ever they hav done they hav done it for the first time in the history of this world............. do u get it.........(they have no common questions in the exam... no question bank to follow before appearing for board exam)...yet they hav succeeded.......our country's goal was never to hav high growth.......... just remember all the politicians said this same line ,everyone who sat in the cm or pm chair... desh tutna nehi cahiye......... that is the only aim....in recent years it has been growth.... since our neighbouring countries are developing.... u hav to grow... to secure yourself.... thats y this new target
so what is the lesson........... a politician does not need to be a educated person..if that would hav been the criteria then einstein would have been the prime minister of germany instead of hitler....
the only criteria for a politician is that he should understand the pulse of people's heart thats all........ and as u all know reading peoples heart does not hav any formulae... and there are no courses offered by universities about that subject ... so u cant learn or get a degree about that field............. so the subject is hard isnt it??????????????
Thanks for considering dakshin Bharat other than Tamil Nadu sir,you took so much time for that, donno when Delhi shifts focus here
Now you know our problems in Bengaluru. Finally you understand our plight with CTC episode. IT crowds pay taxes, Middle class uses dug up potholed, useless roads and suffer to reach office, but BBMP uses our taxes to look after Sadashivnagar and Vidanasoudha areas for the politicians. Middle class suffers while paying taxes. Poor get doles, BBMP uses funds to deliver to rich politicians in tony areas. Metro was brought to Kanakapura thanks to DK Shivakumar while depriving the IT community of their much needed roads. Now KJ George has managed to get 2 metro stations for his investment in Manyata tech parks. Question is why is bengaluru development dependent on politicians investments in areas?
This is probably the most unbiased episode from the The Print. Made me watch until the end, kudos ! !
Excellent. But in the same time we feel sorry for us. Tragic part is some people are hooked by what's the capital of Illinois and not the matter of this subject.
Thank you for talking about this sir. Urban planning as idealistic a field as they come and is extremely entrenched in political realities of the region. The disconnect between enforcement and planning leads to the opposite of the intention - increasing suffering of the denizens of the area. As a practicing economic development planner in Illinois, US (studied in Delhi) I have many issues/qualms about the state of city planning in India - ranging from planning education to research to lack of mechanisms that ensure that political leaders dont supersede the technical experts. My only hope is to eventually see a better, regional outlook to these problems which takes these issues beyond one political jurisdiction and hence reduces some political involvement. P.S - Capital of Illinois is Springfield.
Who wants infra? Chalo sab log ek project dhoondhke protest kardenge. And Our govts are notorious for going back on contracts and projects.
Parties came and went, Bangalore remains without 'roads' and infrastructure. Too much corruption in the last two decades.
Yes truly agree
Absolutely true. Bangalore has been headless city
Bangalore airport was built by private sector , if govt had to do it it would still be under construction
😂🤣😅perfectly well said!
Boss even airport is not complete
Sir, Really informative. Am living in Bengaluru for the past 1 year. Could really visualize all your observations. I am a kolkata man. Would like a similar critique of kolkata also. This is the my 1st comment on any youtube video and yours is my first subscription. More Power to you.
Kolkata is a joke😂 there is no planned infrastructure anywhere except maybe Newton and salt lake...it is a dead city..long has been so
The Left destroyed Kolkata and now even Mamata didi is doing the same rather much worse.
@@shounakkossambe8109 the saying goes that "CPM left the man(Bengal) for dead and now Mamta is preparing to cremate the corpse."
@@prashanttiwari5686 "Dead" lol in your dreams. People who don't live or work here make expert opinions. Here education affordable, public transport reliable and so is last mile connectivity. Water crisis is unheard of and traffic is better managed than most Indian metros. Though sidewalks encroachment and overhead wires need to be sorted. Infact it can be safely said that Kolkata was the first properly planned city in subcontinent developed by Job Charnock in 1692.
@@arnabbera2562 yes and it seems u still live in 1962...Rajiv Gandhi cleared said this was a dying city and that too back in 1984...there are hardly any educational institutions here that offer any placement...I don't know what u study but for people who want a technical degree(btech students like me)Kolkata is a nightmare....literally every person who has the means available tries to move to Bangalore or Pune....as for traffic Kolkata is safe due to the lesser number of personal vehicles owned by people...compare that too Bangalore where per capita income is 3 times that of a person in Bengal and so many people afford a personal vehicle...there is a mass migration of the cream students to other cities...soon this city will be nothing more than a holiday home for well of people who come here just for the old feel and vacations...
PS: I have been living here for a full 18 years ..far more than I wished...I live in tollygunge btw...meet up if u want😂
Here in Ahmedabad project are completeling before deadline because of new municipal commissioner Vijay Nehra.
@@msdadsfsx what?🤣
@@msdadsfsx or else what
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Lol... Everyone knows how fake is gujarat model... Shut up
‘Capital cities are the colonies of the state’.. Very thoughtful.. 👏👏
A well researched and presented talk. As a Bengalurean, I can appreciate the challenges the city has. The infra sucks. The garbage piles up at every corner. Yes the roads are perpetually dug up. The roads are laid....and soon thereafter BWSSB comes and digs it up again. They complete their job, do a shoddy patch up...only to see BESCOM coming a few days later to dig it up again. Flyovers are under construction for perpetuity. The solution at the end is great. Have these large metros, be declared as Mayor run 'City States', and move the state capital away from these cities. However, don't know for sure as to how many of the political entities would be keen on administering a state, minus these cash cows. These centers are what keep their cash boxes ringing. A good suggestion, however with minimal chance of ever being accepted let alone being implemented.
How about shifting India's capital away from Delhi to somewhere like Andaman or Nicobar, let these politicians rot there🤔🤣
the issue i see is every city is divided between MLA , MP and then corporators there is no centralised authority with for the city to take decisions .( feel free to comment)
That's the way India come to be most Federated country state has more power than centre
All those who ask for or take bribes need to be considered as ANTI- Nationals as they break up the fabric of nation building.
@@sunilj10 the main reason for delay in infrastructure us the tanturm thrown by various activists with every project.
I am sure that people from Bangalore have been screaming their heads off for years that Karnataka is the most corrupt state you can find. No one has even heard us (let alone listen). Just imagine how much better both Bangalore and Mysore would have been if the international airport were between the two cities. Corruption destroys a society at every level.
I agree corruption is the root cause of all problems in India. But I see that there is a bit of support for AAM AADMI PARTY and I think only AAP can save the cities from turning into dump yards
@@weresic Delhi Municipality is run by BJP since 15 years
@@chandan4156 AAP is just another political party, not much special about it. For making actual progress, our system has to incentivize issue based politics over ideology based politics..
Sir
Plz speak on garbage disposal also. Apart form Indore I believe no one is doing it. When one city can why not other.
Garbage is identity of India, indian in general love garbage. This is rude reality of Indian. They keep their house clean but dump infront of their gate
@@rinyapura9858 Because municipality does not work here unfortunately...Leaving no other option to throw the garbage at some distance from one's house...
What a brilliant analysis.. Thank u so much for this cut the clutter
Absolutely agree. Autonomy for metros is teh only way forward
Please make more videos on Bengaluru... condition is really pathetic here😣
Shekhar ji, you are on point. If you are reading this message then 1000 cheers to you and your team for bringing out such a deep pool of knowledge.
Sirji you have very high hopes on Mayor system. In delhi we have one. He delayed metro system by withholding land 1.5 kms. He did not buy buses. He gave free water whereas he could have given 24x7 portal water. List is long. Problem is 'We The People'. If we are happy with free water, we will get 'free water' and if we demand 24x7 portable water, we will get it. 'We The People' of Delhi will decide in the next election, we want freebies or services. Per Capita GDP on PPP basis puts Delhite in middle income country on its own. Still we want freebies. Good luck. In democracy 'We The People' get the leaders that we deserve.
First big cities like Mumbai Bangalore Hyderabad Chennai Delhi Calcutta should given UT like status and taxes should be collected directly Union govt. & projects should be union government.
There should a commercial capital, judicial capital, legislative capital and executive capital for every state and union. Communication and connectivity improved between this cities
Once approved project by government directly go for Financial review before CAG or or JPC (parliament body) and passed within three months and once approved project should not stopped no matter what. Unless national emergency like war.....
Most sensible comment. Also politically city mayor heads should be empowered. People must make their mayors accountable. How many people even vote for municipal elections. Mayor's with exemplary work should be made potential CM or PM candidates. This hierarchy is followed meticulously in China.
@samudra gupta good to have centralisation in big project than 2or 3 stages
Your comment and India is great but it will take many years for that
The Hennur flyover you mentioned is completed finally. After so many years
Akshay P Kumar so true bro after a decade
Just a small correction: Capital of Illinois is Springfield
That's where Homer Simpson lives. He's famous.😐
@@f2006541 there is an Irvine in Cali, there is no Irvine in IL as far as I know, the town is called Irving
so much data and opinion is being shared in the video but your focus is on correcting the person's negligible mistake?
As a Delhiite, I feel really lucky that we have the awesome Delhi Metro which now going into the Phase IV of construction.
Closing remarks on peepal trees was awesome!
You said it right about Bengaluru.. 👍 I am from this city.
It’s about time city’s road contracts should be only given to reputed companies like L&T
thank you for this informative series of videos, Mr. Gupta and ThePrint team. they really help me get a better sense of what the ground realities are, what the actual problems are, what different parties' motivations are, etc while sitting here in the US. your videos thankfully don't have much of a political/ partisan bent. and yes, Springfield is the capital of Illinois, Irvine is in CA as one of the other comments pointed out.
Wow the colony analogy is perfect.
Yes! This pepul tree has ruined my town. Everywhere there is a pepul tree discovered they make a temple around it... Like in the middle of the road! And no one can cut it. When will civil sense prevail over religious insecurities?
This is why all religions should die.
If religion is helping save the tress, I am on board with the proselytizers and evangelists. After all what is civic* sense without the sense of wanting to save nature?
@@darshangowda9347 Trees? Nope. Just one kind of tree. Never seen any religious agitation when trees are cut and forests vanish. Green peace & tribal agitation to save forests are not religious.
@@Thoughtflux No, there are many sacred groves, we just don't hear about. I am non religious too, so I get what you're saying.
@@darshangowda9347 bro I'm from north India and i face these traffic jams every day because one side of the road is blocked because someone constructed a temple around a pepal tree occupying half the road. I'm not against temples - why should I be? But roads are important too.
mumbai is in decay because of unrelenting population migration from failed cities & states in northern India.
Same can be told about cities in USA where so many Mumbaikars/Maharashtrians are queuing up like termites. They are responsible for decaying those cities too
Bihar and eastern up is utter failure they literally have one member of family member either in delhi mumbai or kolkata. Iam from north east and when u realise truck load of people travel so far even in north east for laboir work then somethig is wrong there.
@Third Eye yep
Dear Shekar, Welcome to Bangalore. You mentioned to be in Bangalore. You got the right issue. Infact, it is very slightly better in the last 2 months. In fact, People of certain localities protested in Public hence some action has been initiated.
There has to be a independentRoad Repair and Restoration body as a single point to approve any dug ups and ensure it is fixed. All the departments wanting to dig up should take approval and pay up the estimated amount to fix it upfront the this body and such a body should be responsible for filling and laying new road
Being from Bangalore I'm fed up with this from past 10 years it's messed up. I believe it had the potential of being top cities of world but bcz of this political turmoil and lack of will. Before 10 years it was ranked above tokyo i remember as a kid reading it and today I feel for what have they done to it.
@Rakshita Shetty why do you guys still live there. Move somewhere else.
Guess he doesn’t have visa to go to Tokyo
@@rakshithjp3425 if you disagree with ur parents on something you don't give up ur home.
@@rajeshdaviyal4602 Please stop blaming your parents but am glad you consider this place as home tho lol. For starters, you can improve the conditions of your home in any possible manner.
I'm planning mangalore from same state karnataka, mangalore is a much better city
Any city that has grown at the same rate as Bengaluru is sure to have many of these same issues. The influx of humanity greatly outpaces the city's resources, even as they are being developed. So, forever, the planners are shooting behind the duck. Bengaluru's population in the last two decades has progressed from 57 lakh to 85 lakh to probably 120 lakh by next census. If it takes 10 years to build a metro line, the coverage in planned capacity and route maps are off by 30 - 40 lakh people. If we add political dither, it is no wonder that public works are mired. The paradigm of separating the political capital from the business centers in the US by at least one day's ride by horse carriage was apparently adopted to minimize big businessmen from meddling in government affairs (which is an excellent thing in itself). Planning for future development is fraught with political peril. The money investments are extremely large and if the anticipated growth does no materialize, the projects will be deemed wasteful.
The Karnataka government should perhaps be moved out of Bengaluru to a part of the state that needs focus for development, perhaps Manyakheta (Malkhed, the capital city of the Chalukyas) with a rich history but currently not much economic development. This would help that part of the state's economy and allow Bengaluru to grow without so much political oversight.
Dear Guptaji, enjoyed listen to you as it was unbiased. This attitude brings the best out of you as a journalist.
Honestly, "Bangalore" is acceptable...even "Karnatak" without the "A" is fine if you're talking in Hindi, because that's how it's said in the language. It's only when you use the Hindi pronunciation while talking in English, that most of us get rubbed the wrong way...and even that has to do more with North Indian (BIMARU to be precise) hegemony, than anything else. Just my two cents on the issue.
Thank God, Mysore is saved from ITs clutches. Let Mysore be peaceful and beautiful as it is.
Are you stupid bro?
If you get a chance to add job oportunities to your small town, then why shouldn't you?
@@shamikchakraborty3341 because then it'll turn into Bangalore; a lifeless town.
@@satwikmishra9589 a town will soon become lifeless if young people leave it because of better job opportunities in other cities.
@@shamikchakraborty3341 👍
There is already the BMC municipal corporation, which already acts like a quasi-executive for the city.
Every year BMC gets around 30k crores in its budget listing the projects they're going to spend the money on. How many of those projects actually get implemented? Is there any record?
At least the dug up pot holes should be fixed up. Can the supreme court please help our metros ?
With the current cost of onions, anyone will get shoe beatings to claim those onions .
Excellent episode thanks for the detailed analysis
Come to Hyderabad it has really done well compared to Bangalore.
compared to any metro in this nation
The metro railway infrastructure roads.
@@arshlenovo436 even the airport is best
Arsh Lenovo I think it will be better if the Capital is moved outside of Hyderabad, say, to Warangal.
That will reduce a bit of pressure on Hyderabad.
@@ayeluru Hyderabad and Warangal can be linked together like Pune and Mumbai but I don't think making Warangal a capital would be a better move. You may have some point in your suggestion but Hyderabad itself have large empty land at its surroundings.
This issue was worth decluttering
After all those Maharashtra politics news this was a breath of fresh air
Please keep making the videos on such topics which most of the journalist ignores
Even though this state is full of Stikes and Hartals, Kerala managed to separate it's biggest city Kochi and it's capital Trivandrum, but I can't boast about any infrastructure marvels.
Still the metro here was completed in a record time
Bangalore you are talking about the most corrupt public services system in india it will compete with the worst in African states in corruption. Its been a known reality for decades and has become worse. Politicians take money from contractors and contractors can't finish the job and they really don't care. These state level projects across India are nothing visionary or actual infrastructure building or providing convenience to citizens, these are money making projects for both politicians and politicians in the states. From Bihar to Bangalore its the same. So outside central projects in India its still 1980's. Unless the Double engine sarkar like UP comes about across India ....these Indians won't learn or prosper or deliver.
leadership, follower-ship, illiteracy, ignorance, greed...
Can you please not play the bell icon music till shekhar sir is talking. His last words are always lost in that din.
Fabulous work, keep it up !
In Gujarat,
Gandhi nagar is the capital city with population of 3 lack.
Ahmedabad is the largest city with population of 56 lack.
it seems right.
No...
Gandhinagar is just a suburb of ahmedabad (less than 10kms away from border of ahmedabad)....dholera & GIFT in between will create an urban weld and fuse up all the 4 cities into one.
Hey Shekar thanks for taking time on Bangalore and AP ... You need to spend more time in South...
Politicians in Karnataka make money for them they don't understand the problems of common people 😥😥😥
If they make diff city as state capital,it will create another 15-20 cities in india which is going drive our economy.
10 crore people can live der and will take the burden from big cities.
In WB,der is only Kolkata. Ty cld hv built Durgapore or Siliguri as a big city but no. They hv not done anything like that.
Indians should focus on infrastructure instead of Hindu/Muslim jumlas.
China has 40 cities with Metros. India only has 10 cities with Metros. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems
One of the better episodes from Shekhar focusing on the development challenges India faces. Your phenomenal wisdom, perspective and decades long experience is on display here. I think you you should stick such topics rather than covering Pakistan or bashing Imran Khan. By the way, the Capital of Illinois is Springfield, not Irvine (sorry, couldn’t let this go having lived in Illinois for 30 years).
I agree Bangalore needs better infra. The fact that it is dug up also means the city is continuously updating itself given that it is growing at unprecedented rates. Despite all this how is it that Bangalore still scores well on livability (relatively)? Also, thank God Mysore hasn't gone the Pune way since it's too close to our forests. I wouldn't want Hinjewadi type of development near Bandipur. Also have to think if natural resources (water) can sustain a Bangalore and Pune next to each other. On time taken for meetings. Next time you land in Mumbai, try a meeting in Goregoan and then next in fort and try making it back to the airport to fly out. The beauty of Bangalore is that you can live next to your place of work, which means it's more spread out as a city so you are traversing large distances if you are hopping from one business center to next. Finally, the only time I've had breezy travel through Delhi is at 2am. I don't think we can stereotyp mega cities on traffic coz it doesn't hold up anymore. Do balance your commentary when you speak of Bangalore like you do when you speak of Delhi.
Very informative video sir....we need such videos before an election so that people know the facts and are able to question there representatives based on them
Decentralizing availability of employment opportunities is the answer to infrastructure issues in Major Metropolitan Cities. Spread industries to tier 2 or tier 3 cities, create a network of IT firms over whole state rather than concentrating on Single City. Reduce the population density in big cities and spread it over a larger region.
Perfect analysis.......glad you guys chose other news that matters too
I still wonder why companies flock to this mismanaged infrastructure city... Other reason why bnglr is like it is now, bcoz of private housing projects and landlords who have exploited and encashed the growth even before govt had planned infrastructure development around those areas
Solution is to stop population migration to just few cities 4 Metro's +Hyderabad and Banglore Totally - 5 Cities for 150 crore population
We need to develop and need new invistments to other tyre 2 cities and other state capitals
(Develop Three cities each in bigger states and 2 cities in small state's)
@ResearchShyVids I completely agree with you
@ResearchShyVids Gwalior which is 300 km from Delhi can be developed as sister city to Delhi .
That's why india can't become Super power. some time i think we should drop this fake democracy become like china.
in china is people can't get justice, is their cities ,ministers like this???? but for common people china system is good
go work bright future for kids clean cities cheap and indigenous items etc. only problem when you speak against
government what why i complaint if i have good job, bright future for my kids, cheap and good transport, no dirty politics
if this is all you get in under one party or communist rule it's good. because some time you feel we are free in democracy
we can say anything we want what not have basic facilities then why not communism if they can.
There is an issue with such kind of system as in china, It works well only when the party and top leaders are thinking more about country or at-least as much for the country as for themselves. The moment one detector minded person holds the throne all is gone. example North Korea and of-course the fall of soviet union.
Cut the clutter about smart cities project
Undoubtedly the best CutTheClutter
Sir who is interested in development of Bangalore?😢 They are all interested in language politics, hope all know how they forced to remove Hindi name boards from metro stations.
vinod raj yes we value our languages in south India. We respect all the languages mentioned on the Indian currency and we also expect our neighbours to understand it. Tamilnadu, kerala and Hindi speaking states are equal for us.
Finally karnataka wants to emulate tamil people
Savitha KL Tamilnadu is a great state 👍🏼 but Karnataka has its own individuality unlike many states who fight against innocent Tamil people for not accepting Hindi language. Karnataka people are the true believers of Bharathas motive - unity in diversity. The fact is few decades back Tamilians were an integral part of building Bengaluru.
@@rakshithjp3425 You could only expect unity in diversity if people have atleast language in common.
1. Language
2. Religion
3. Colour
4. Appearances
5. Mindset
Almost everything is diverse.
America with black people, jews, christians and asians are managing to live together. They have the highest GDP and most advanced technologies.
What is stopping us? Is it diversity or Just mindset?
Good analysis. Hyderabad metro had progressed well and brought relief to commuters. It's airport has the best connectivity both domestic and international. I had envisaged this city becoming India's first truly world class city but not so sure anymore .
Very good points by Shekhar Gupta. Bangalore is becoming unliving... No metro projects are done...
thank you sheila dixit mam for delhi metro
16:21 That's the very reason why Telangana wanted to be separated. The caste power struggle between Naidus and Reddys was hindering everybody's growth but andhra people are blinded by caste. Unfortunately for Andhra, no progress can be expected as long as these two castes are in power.
@samudra gupta Hyderabad was never a sleepy town , just becouse it was not congested and suffocative like other cities doesn't mean it's a small town. you can go back and check at the time it was made part of andhra. In fact i would argue these regressive politics of those castes hindred the natural progress of the city.It has all the natural advatages to grow those poltical groups only developed areas or projects when they could take advantage for thier narrow benefit.
Very good analytical thoughts sharings. Thanks.
Bengaluru was a BJP renaming, like Mumbai, Karnavati was similarly. Personally I am anti renaming and pro development.
Mr. Shekhar Gupta, you are either misled badly or lying through your teeth on the NICE Road. NICE Road is India's largest land grab project. It was sanctioned by Deve Gowda when he was briefly the Chief Minister of Karnataka. The land was given at Re.1 per acre and along 130 kilometers from Bangalore to Mysore [more than 40,000 acres was transferred].
Mr. Ramesh, who was the PWD Secretary at that time was the prime mover for the project. He retired from the Government immediately after the land was given on a BOO [Build - Own - Operate] model and went on to join Nandi Infrastructure.
NICE got this deal since they misrepresented to the Government that they were actually a US based company and were backed by strong US promoters. The whole representation was a hoax. The project was proposed in a 1995 Trade Mission led by then Massachusetts Governor. The promoters were three Limited Companies - In the US, companies are Inc [Incorporated] and not Limited. Without checking on the promoters, huge tracts of land was committed. You rightly said that Mr. Baba Kalyani was the key investor. He invested his personal funds in this project [not the Kalyani Group]. He is a Lingayat and the key movers in this scam were all Lingayats [it is a different issue that the beneficiary politicians & administrators belonged to all castes and parties].
The land acquisition process between Mysore and Bangalore was completed within a few months. The farmers along the alignment lost their land for measly compensation. When activists [including me] protested in a court mandated public hearing, we were arrested by the Deve Gowda government for objecting development. SM Krishna came much later. Deve Gowda, both as CM and later as PM, advised us to stop protesting against development projects and co-operate with the government.
With court cases as an excuse, NICE has just completed a ring road covering half of Bangalore's perimeter [53.3 KMs]. They are charging exorbitantly for this small stretch. The company has apparently sold or gifted [to friendly politicians] or kept land banks to themselves and are no longer speaking about any Bangalore - Mysore connectivity.
There are unproven allegations that SM Krishna got substantial land gifts and he aided the company strategically when he was the CM. The same accusations are leveled against many politicians who were leading the state between 1995 and 2010.
Deve Gowda, only this decade realized that he had sanctioned the largest land grab project and he was apparently not a beneficiary. The land was acquired from his Vokkaliga community farmers. He raved and ranted for some time before the elections. He is now silent about the project, as are his is sons - one can only concur reasons for their silence.
The company has skillfully misused our courts and our Constitutional process to get the land and not build the project. Each acre of land costs roughly 1 crore to 5 crores along the stretch. You can understand how much public money got transferred. We still comment on Bofors and Adarsh - they are chicken feed in comparison.
Indisputable facts are that some people got 40,000 acre of land at Re.1 / acre. The land must value at not less than 6 lakh crores. They built a small stretch of ring road. They are now not speaking about the Bangalore - Mysore Expressway. The state government is neither asking them to build or return the land. The government's writ does not extend even to regulate the toll collected. This is the true story about India's urban infrastructure.
the root problem which no one mentions is POPULATION. we need a ONE CHILD LAW
sir all that is okay, but the trees were not planted well. more than half have died. and to begin with, less 75% of the trees cut were only transplanted.....we can build on our thoughts with ignorance and paint over the picture. live in la la land and say everything is going to be alright....
Still people in cities have better facilities than people in villages. If you provide better education and all necessities to the people of village of smaller cities, you won't get those people shifted to big cities. Big Cities aren't colonies of state's, indeed state's are colonies of these big cities because people in big cities get everything easily while life in villages use to be more difficult still you call villagers beneficiaries, I guess I have different opinion on that Shekhar Sir.... Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰 and Happy Eid ♥️♥️
To the point explanation and right kind of solutions discussion.
The US population is overwhelmingly urban (83% vs 34% for India), and so are their voters. India is not going to be an urban country for a long time. We need to negotiate and redistribute powers between cities and states.
ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ನಗರದ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆಗಳ ವಿಶ್ಲೇಷಣೆಗೆ ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು..🙏
I don't understand why Andhra people got rid of Chandrababu Naidu. He was a visionary leader.
First shift political capital and cinema industry from all the current Metro's (Mumbai, Chennai,Banglore, Hyderabad)
Super correlation with US States. I was also surprised and amazed when i visited US and came to know the fact
On a lighter note perhaps we should hand over the supervision of city infra to IKEA. From the moment you enter it's Hyderabad outlet gates , to the exit , you forget you are in India - unless of course you visit on a weekend when the crowds make it impossible for you to do so.The design and construction quality are like their outlets anywhere in the world .
I will add to Shekhar Gupta’s analysis
1) Currently according to the financial commission report, concerning devolution of central taxes to states, you will notice that most of the money goes to underdeveloped states like UP and Bihar. You will notice that in the formula for how the central funds are allocated, there is a factor for proximity to financial centres or cities and states like Maharashtra, Karnataka and others lose their share of taxes on this factor that Mumbai and Bengaluru are part of these states. So whatever money is allocated to developed and industrialised states is too little, as if they are being punished for having too many industries. So this whatever little money they have, they can’t build top quality infrastructure as they have to think about the whole state and not just the city. Separating the city administratively and appointing a mayor might offer some solution but it’s not enough if more funds are not allocated from the central funds transfer to these cities.
2) Delhi gets a lot of funds from the centre, again see the finance commission report. It is also a showcase city as events such as Commonwealth games and Asian games held 30 years back and maybe Olympics will be planned for 30 years in the future. All this means massive money keeps getting pumped into Delhi for all kinds of projects. Sreedharan, the metro man was appointment for Mumbai metro and he left the project saying that the Maharashtra government is slack in asking for funds from the central government. So even the metro man Sreedharan couldn’t change that.
3) A minor clarification that Mumbai’s trains are not a century old and neither is the infrastructure. It has been refurbished quite often and Mumbai has all new trains thanks to the MUTP projects. However the growing number of slums, people and development has meant that building transport without decongesting the city itself will have no effect. It will keep being crowded.
I completely agree with you, Mr Gupta. What about the idea of making all major metropolitan regions states like Delhi, instead of Mayoralties (as India seriously lacks the Mayoral culture). And then have the existing states move their capitals elsewhere?
Given that kejriwal was not approved for a Mayoral level meeting from urban leaders across the world shows we don't have any sense of what a Mayoralties are.
Telangana is so lucky... our Infrastructure progress is in a rapid speed.... due to stable govt.... Thank You TRS 😊 All projects are getting completed...
As always...fan of your foresighted analysis sir!!!!
As an Arey activist myself who is on the ground everyday, let me tell all your viewers that all the trees that were supposed to be cut are not cut. Only a portion has been cut.
Also, the compensation you're talking of, all those replanted trees are dead. I'm not even getting into the debate of the quality of centuries old trees vs. newer trees.
Thirdly, if this carshed is allowed inside Arey, it'll be a Trojan horse that will consume entire Arey. The vulture builder lobby is just waiting and no one can trust politicians when they see their monetary profits.
Also, let me remind everyone that there are better alternate sites for the carshed available. It's nothing but a dirty conspiracy.
What good is the development of our future generations can't breathe the air?
Completely agree. Top 20 cities of the country must be nationalized with all the 20 directly elected mayors reporting directly to the City Minister at the centre holding a cabinet rank reporting directly to the prime minister
18:45s : Capital of Illinois is Springfield - not Irvine
just a pointer, why does not Congress make states where its in power have Mayor. Just shows how serious they are themselves about their manifesto. That's why you should not care about their manifesto, not because they have just 52 seats. They get 52 seats because for them promises and manifesto are a way to appease all never to be taken seriously.
You see wealth is relative, so how will the rich people feel rich if it is not for the slums and poverty around themselves? Plus they also need cheap labour and fix.
This has to be the most well-articulated, video about our cities, why don't you just run for the prime minister's position lol
13.40 I believed everything until you said this - The area was not a reserved for a forest. It is infact a part of Sanjay Gandhi Rashtriya Udyaan.
i agree completely mayoralty is the solution
we are fortunate to have a guy like you who brings such topics to declutter for us
Sir,you refer Bangalore as Bengaluru,then why you don't refer Bombay as Mumbai.