Great review. I just ordered the Tamron lens and will almost certainly be selling my Sony 70-200mm f4 G. Overall the Tamron looks to be a great package with a really cute set of compromises that probably makes it the best overall lens in this trio for most photographers most of the time. If you are a paid sports pro, working regularly and need bullet proof reliability, don't have to carry it all day walking about etc then the better build quality from the GM 'beast', despite the cost is the better option. For just about all others the Tamron is the new smart choice. I still don't think it will retain it's percentage value as well as the Sony optics, but my lenses are for use, shooting and a means to an end. If they get a little battered by use and life then so what - they are a tool and by all accounts a lot better than they have any right to be.
hey someone called Craig emailed me and asked me some questions about this lens. I wrote a reply but the email got bounce back.. so can you please either contact me here or via my other social media contacts so i can get back to you Thanks!
I had the Sony f4. Replaced it with the tamron. Took my dog out for a run with him running at me I only got 50% in focus. Used to get at least 90% with the f4. Took it back it’s a disappointment for me
nice nice nice， the video I have been waiting for! Here in China, Tamron 70-180mm with two Tamron filters are sold at 1100USD including a tax of 13%, much affordable than the price in many other countries🤪
I think Tamron may be coming pretty soon with a G2 of this lens since we got a 28-75 g2 already, so I will continuous using my 85 or the cheapo 28-200 if I need them. I did pre order the g2 28-75.
Nice video! Did you understand what was behind that strange f8 behavior where it looked unsharp but weren´t? And also did I understand correctly that it is in the EVF/LCD it look unsharp but is ok on computer?
Your review really was helpful. I'm getting my Tamron today. I also will like the Tamron because of the ability to get some macro shots at 70mm when manually focusing. Not too mention, I hate big white lenses because it always draws attention to yourself and often I like to be in the background where I'm not a distraction.
It seems to be parfocal but I haven't test too much to confirm. From memory Focus breathing on wide end was minimal.. can't remember the tele end sorry
amazing review...very detailed and with a lot of information...straight to the point. Your one comparison cleared all my queries. Thanks a lot for the comparison. I just have a small doubt....Does a speed booster decrease the depth of field for more bokeh as well or does it just increases light input? Thank you SUBBED!
Thanks speedboster does let more light in (actually more like focus all the light into a smaller area) and effectively increased the maximum aperture and hence more shallow dof
Not sure about Tamron, but lots of factories are closed right now, and shipping also big problem. So it may take a while to find one on shelf unfortunately
Don't worry about lack of Tripod collar. There is 100% certainty we will see Tripoc collar accessories from various gadget makers. Tamron themselves were certain this lens will be more popular than the 28-75 which already is the world's most sold lens in 2019. So Tripod collars from 3rd party will be inevitable.
Hi Richard, thank you again for your fantastic review, just one quick, I know its not in the video but did u test the sel70200g vs tamron 70-180mm at f8 and above? If yes, is there a noticeable difference in sharpness? The reason I ask is I mainly do landscape photography and you can get a f4 second hand for around $1200-1300 AUD where the Tamron is $2300-2500 AUD. So just wondering if they equal out with sharpness at f8 and above? Thank you
Hi David, I only tested it to around f/8 but not beyond as diffraction really starting to make the image soft once I stop down to f/11 or beyond. But at f/8, the difference between these lenses are quite small. If you could pick up a nice copy of the f/4 at half the price, i think it's a good option to go for!
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you so much Richard. I have the 135 f18 for portrait but was looking for the cheapest zoom option for landscapes. You have aided me greatly in my decision. Fantastic review and thanks for the fast response, you now have a new subscriber to your channel. Cheers David
If you're using it for landscape you have to factor in that the Tamron doesn't have a tripod collar and won't be balanced very well and if you shoot at 180mm at a slow shutter speed you risk motion blur. I have the 70-300 and because it doesn't have a tripod collar l get a lot of shots that are unusable especially compared to when I had a Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 that is better balanced because of the tripod collar.
HI, I just wanted to point out that at 3:36 (ua-cam.com/video/DVL_R_hHL00/v-deo.html) you have written the names of the models in front of the lenses, but it seems like you mistakenly put Sony f/4 in front of the f2.8 and vice versa. I noticed this from the fact that I thought the f/4 is smaller as well as the fact that the lens body says otherwise. Please confirm, just trying to ensure I am making the right decision with the Sony f/4 and if its bigger than the Sony f2.8, its a deal breaker for me.
Thank you for your very thorough review. This is the one that I have been waiting for! Although I own the other two Tamron zooms I am not planning on picking this one up anytime soon as I already own the Sony 70-200 F4 and it seems,that outside of the gain of one stop of light ( f2.8 vs.f4), there isn't enough image quality gained to justify its purchase. I think you did a great job in comparing all three lenses and answered a lot of our questions. However, I would have definitely picked the Tamron if I had been starting from scratch!
Thanks for watching. I agree i don't think you should sell the Sony f/4 to buy the tamron but I personally would definitely pick the Tamron if I am buying one between the two
@@TheRealRichardWong as a video shooter where image stabilization is important for handheld work, would you recommend the sony F4 version over the Tamron? Or did you find the difference in camera shake not to be an issue?
Hello Richard, I just got my Tamron 70-180 as well. However, I've noticed the lens makes a slight whirring noise when the camera is on, even when on manual focus. Also when the camera is off, the lens makes a slight knocking noise when I flip it forwards/backwards. Have you noticed any of these noises?
I don't notice any whirring noise, especially in MF mode. Is it quite noticeable or very very quiet? Also i would say no about the knocking noise. Does anyone have the lens hear the same noise? Would be good to check it and let neil454 know
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the reply. It's not very loud but if I listen closely I hear it quite easily. It doesn't bother me, but if it's not normal I'll probably have Tamron repair/replace it.
Hi, I have a 28-75mm Tamron for my sony a7iii and yes I've noticed these noises, I can only hear them when it's super quiet and only rarely, the whirring noises go away when I shoot in continuous focus mode, as for the knocking noises, only when their moved very fast or vigorously
They both pretty good choice. Tamron allows you to dissolve the background more and better for low light. Sony would be better for stabilisation for sure
Very hard to compare sharpness on picture like that as the focus can pick different area. You should do it on flat surface to have accurate sharpness. Overall I like your review :)
ha! good question. Watching my review again and i was puzzled too. But then i checked some of the product photos I took and it's actually orange. I think the video footage just happens the way how i light up the lenses make it appear black, but it's not
Great video! I finally tried a 70-200 g-master lens on my a7III and No Thank You! it made the camera body creek!, that thing is a monstrosity!. Overweight, over priced and overrated. I like the sharpness of Tamron better than Sony's, I only have the 28-75mm f/2.8, but I can't wait to complete the trinity P.s. after a firmware update, the auto focus on my Tamron lens is insane!
Big thanks to Auckland Camera Centre for their help making this video! www.aucklandcamera.co.nz So... which of these three telephoto lenses is your favourite and why?
Great review. I just ordered the Tamron lens and will almost certainly be selling my Sony 70-200mm f4 G.
Overall the Tamron looks to be a great package with a really cute set of compromises that probably makes it the best overall lens in this trio for most photographers most of the time. If you are a paid sports pro, working regularly and need bullet proof reliability, don't have to carry it all day walking about etc then the better build quality from the GM 'beast', despite the cost is the better option. For just about all others the Tamron is the new smart choice. I still don't think it will retain it's percentage value as well as the Sony optics, but my lenses are for use, shooting and a means to an end. If they get a little battered by use and life then so what - they are a tool and by all accounts a lot better than they have any right to be.
This is the kind of review we need ..
Thank you Mr Broccoli
This is exaxtly the review I have been searching for, fantastic job in comparing all three lenses
thank you Edward!
A trick: you can watch series at kaldrostream. I've been using them for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Casen Ace yup, have been using KaldroStream for months myself :)
Ignore my other comments in other videos, you did review all these lenses together. Great video, thanks.
No worries! Yes i would try to review with similar lenses .. if i manage to get hold of them :)
hey someone called Craig emailed me and asked me some questions about this lens. I wrote a reply but the email got bounce back.. so can you please either contact me here or via my other social media contacts so i can get back to you Thanks!
I had the Sony f4. Replaced it with the tamron. Took my dog out for a run with him running at me I only got 50% in focus. Used to get at least 90% with the f4. Took it back it’s a disappointment for me
Great video! this helped me decide on my lens choices
Great to hear!
nice nice nice， the video I have been waiting for!
Here in China, Tamron 70-180mm with two Tamron filters are sold at 1100USD including a tax of 13%, much affordable than the price in many other countries🤪
That's a great price!! Thanks for watching Mason!
Can you send me a link. Maybe they can sell it to me
Great review!! Thank you Richard
Thank you for watching Tac Acepa! :)
best review
I think Tamron may be coming pretty soon with a G2 of this lens since we got a 28-75 g2 already, so I will continuous using my 85 or the cheapo 28-200 if I need them. I did pre order the g2 28-75.
Thank you so much, Richard !
Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for this comparison...You have helped me decide which I will purchase (btw the Tamron and Sony f4).
Thanks for watching:)
Great review!
Nice video! Did you understand what was behind that strange f8 behavior where it looked unsharp but weren´t?
And also did I understand correctly that it is in the EVF/LCD it look unsharp but is ok on computer?
Your review really was helpful. I'm getting my Tamron today. I also will like the Tamron because of the ability to get some macro shots at 70mm when manually focusing. Not too mention, I hate big white lenses because it always draws attention to yourself and often I like to be in the background where I'm not a distraction.
Am I the only one that spotted the Rane Mixer in the background?
haha yes i think so :)
Good as always
:)
Thank you!! :)
Hi, beautiful review. Tamron 70-180 works good for sports? Especially for ice skating figure where the lights are so poor? What do you think about it?
Hi there I haven't try that myself but I would guess it would be similar to other 2.8 lens ? The autofocus seems not bad.
Thank you for this review, Mr. Wong. Do you have any comment on whether the lens is near parfocal? Does it breath at either end?
It seems to be parfocal but I haven't test too much to confirm. From memory Focus breathing on wide end was minimal.. can't remember the tele end sorry
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks
great review!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for your review.
Thanks for watching Alex!
amazing review...very detailed and with a lot of information...straight to the point. Your one comparison cleared all my queries.
Thanks a lot for the comparison.
I just have a small doubt....Does a speed booster decrease the depth of field for more bokeh as well or does it just increases light input?
Thank you
SUBBED!
Thanks speedboster does let more light in (actually more like focus all the light into a smaller area) and effectively increased the maximum aperture and hence more shallow dof
@@TheRealRichardWong that cleared it...thanks
Really Nice!! Able to a comparison between Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS ii & iii and the Tamron??
I was wondering the same thing .
On what camera?
@@TheRealRichardWong On Canon mirrorless or a DSLR
@@tacacepa5957 do you know if there is any Sony E -> Canon RF adaptor with AF support?
@@TheRealRichardWong Not sure if there's any, it's like 3mm difference in the flange?🤪
I'll have one please, as soon as it's not made from unobtainium - I sold my 70-200mm F4 in anticipation, weeks ago...
Not sure about Tamron, but lots of factories are closed right now, and shipping also big problem. So it may take a while to find one on shelf unfortunately
Background music is so ear-piercing and frustrating to listen to. Have to stop watching even though seems like a good review
Thanks for the feedback James.
Don't worry about lack of Tripod collar. There is 100% certainty we will see Tripoc collar accessories from various gadget makers. Tamron themselves were certain this lens will be more popular than the 28-75 which already is the world's most sold lens in 2019.
So Tripod collars from 3rd party will be inevitable.
Hi Richard, thank you again for your fantastic review, just one quick, I know its not in the video but did u test the sel70200g vs tamron 70-180mm at f8 and above? If yes, is there a noticeable difference in sharpness?
The reason I ask is I mainly do landscape photography and you can get a f4 second hand for around $1200-1300 AUD where the Tamron is $2300-2500 AUD.
So just wondering if they equal out with sharpness at f8 and above?
Thank you
Hi David, I only tested it to around f/8 but not beyond as diffraction really starting to make the image soft once I stop down to f/11 or beyond. But at f/8, the difference between these lenses are quite small. If you could pick up a nice copy of the f/4 at half the price, i think it's a good option to go for!
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you so much Richard. I have the 135 f18 for portrait but was looking for the cheapest zoom option for landscapes. You have aided me greatly in my decision. Fantastic review and thanks for the fast response, you now have a new subscriber to your channel. Cheers David
If you're using it for landscape you have to factor in that the Tamron doesn't have a tripod collar and won't be balanced very well and if you shoot at 180mm at a slow shutter speed you risk motion blur. I have the 70-300 and because it doesn't have a tripod collar l get a lot of shots that are unusable especially compared to when I had a Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 that is better balanced because of the tripod collar.
Great review.
Thanks David
HI, I just wanted to point out that at 3:36 (ua-cam.com/video/DVL_R_hHL00/v-deo.html) you have written the names of the models in front of the lenses, but it seems like you mistakenly put Sony f/4 in front of the f2.8 and vice versa. I noticed this from the fact that I thought the f/4 is smaller as well as the fact that the lens body says otherwise. Please confirm, just trying to ensure I am making the right decision with the Sony f/4 and if its bigger than the Sony f2.8, its a deal breaker for me.
oh yes i made a mistake there. You can see the actual lens label on the lens.. Apologies for the mistake!
Great finalising then the f/4 as from a size point of view it makes more sense for me as well. Cheers@@TheRealRichardWong
Thank you for your very thorough review. This is the one that I have been waiting for! Although I own the other two Tamron zooms I am not planning on picking this one up anytime soon as I already own the Sony 70-200 F4 and it seems,that outside of the gain of one stop of light ( f2.8 vs.f4), there isn't enough image quality gained to justify its purchase. I think you did a great job in comparing all three lenses and answered a lot of our questions. However, I would have definitely picked the Tamron if I had been starting from scratch!
Thanks for watching. I agree i don't think you should sell the Sony f/4 to buy the tamron but I personally would definitely pick the Tamron if I am buying one between the two
@@TheRealRichardWong as a video shooter where image stabilization is important for handheld work, would you recommend the sony F4 version over the Tamron? Or did you find the difference in camera shake not to be an issue?
@@krisco did u buy a f4? I like to buy one but idk dude
Hello Richard, I just got my Tamron 70-180 as well. However, I've noticed the lens makes a slight whirring noise when the camera is on, even when on manual focus. Also when the camera is off, the lens makes a slight knocking noise when I flip it forwards/backwards. Have you noticed any of these noises?
I don't notice any whirring noise, especially in MF mode. Is it quite noticeable or very very quiet?
Also i would say no about the knocking noise.
Does anyone have the lens hear the same noise? Would be good to check it and let neil454 know
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the reply. It's not very loud but if I listen closely I hear it quite easily. It doesn't bother me, but if it's not normal I'll probably have Tamron repair/replace it.
@@neil454 i might suggest go to a shop and check another copy?
Hi, I have a 28-75mm Tamron for my sony a7iii and yes I've noticed these noises, I can only hear them when it's super quiet and only rarely, the whirring noises go away when I shoot in continuous focus mode, as for the knocking noises, only when their moved very fast or vigorously
Thanks good review!
I have 1 question.
What lens i need to choose for filmmaking? 70200f4 or tamron70180 cuz tamron dont have oss i worry about that
They both pretty good choice. Tamron allows you to dissolve the background more and better for low light. Sony would be better for stabilisation for sure
Nice job, but get rid of the irritating background music. Very distracting.
Thanks for the feedback! :). Would love to hear if other people like or don't like the backgtound music too!
@@TheRealRichardWong I think the music is fine no overpowering , first rule of youtube you can't please everyone :-)
@@TheRealRichardWong Sorry I couldn't watch the video because of the background music; too distracting.
Very hard to compare sharpness on picture like that as the focus can pick different area. You should do it on flat surface to have accurate sharpness. Overall I like your review :)
Yes fair comment. I completely agree. Thanks for the feedback
I got A7i with no Ibis so should I get the Tamron or Sony 70-200 F4? At the end of 2021 I am planning to get the A7iii or A7iv?
Sony is better for your a7 as it has oss.. but if you getting a new camera soon, I might get the tamron
how come the GMaster lens does not have the orange label ?
ha! good question. Watching my review again and i was puzzled too. But then i checked some of the product photos I took and it's actually orange. I think the video footage just happens the way how i light up the lenses make it appear black, but it's not
Hi Richard if u have no budget problem which lens do u prefer
If I don't have to pay for it, I would go for the Sony 2.8. but if I have to pay using my own money, then it would be the Tamron
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you so much
I can get the Tamron and the Sony f4 at the same price. Which do you think is the better option in this case?
I would pick the Tamron because of it's image quality as well as one stop faster
Does it matter if there's no image stabilisation on the Tamron? And were your example pictures shot on a tripod?
Hi Adam, Apart from the sharpness test photos, everything else were shot handheld
@@TheRealRichardWong I might as well go for the Tamron then for my A7ii.
Thanks for your comparison, it's the best I've seen on youtube.
Thank you glad to hear you like the review :)
no sony lenses doesn't have better quality
they extremely expensive NO REASON!
check sony price politic around world stupid and expensive
What adaptor is this please?
Techart tze01. I did a few videos about it you can find them if you are interested
The Sony 70-200 F4 is slightly back focused im wathing this on my 4k Sony xperia phone... If your gona test it use MF
Great video! I finally tried a 70-200 g-master lens on my a7III and No Thank You! it made the camera body creek!, that thing is a monstrosity!. Overweight, over priced and overrated. I like the sharpness of Tamron better than Sony's, I only have the 28-75mm f/2.8, but I can't wait to complete the trinity P.s. after a firmware update, the auto focus on my Tamron lens is insane!
Glad it helped! You will love the 70-180
Hating on 70-200 GM lens 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽a lens which is a bread and butter to almost every wedding photographer out there.
3:32 whats wrong with this...?
Ah! I screw up the text for the sony lenses!!!
Big thanks to Auckland Camera Centre for their help making this video! www.aucklandcamera.co.nz
So... which of these three telephoto lenses is your favourite and why?