VINCI Vo solcando un mar crudele (from "Artaserse") - Radoslava Vorgić and New Trinity Baroque

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  • @jburma
    @jburma Рік тому +5

    I keep watching Radoslava Vorgić walk on stage and look around the room with her piercing eyes before she begins singing. I wish I could express what I'm feeling. I just keep replaying it.

  • @nerushimoe
    @nerushimoe 3 роки тому +66

    It's a pity that there are so many commenters trying to compare this to Fagioli. The art cannot be shrunk to a single standard. The lady has a beautiful and powerful voice and performed the aria with great skill and expression and this is definitely a decent contribution to the world of baroque music. Any attempt to "reserve" this aria for a single performer is sectarianism.

    • @ChristopherRSkinner
      @ChristopherRSkinner 2 роки тому +3

      I agree with the philosophy, though I will say the use of nearly identical ornamentation makes the comparison an easier temptation.

    • @nerushimoe
      @nerushimoe 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@ChristopherRSkinner Probably, Fagioli influenced many of them or they just rely on the same text (scores) edition. Anyway, both of them are decent, IMO. Check out Lucia Cirillo's version if you are seeking a completely different interpretation - yet another impressive performance.

    • @giuseppenegri4750
      @giuseppenegri4750 2 роки тому +5

      la musica non è un fossile, tantomeno le sue interpretazioni che portano evviva diversità: questa interpretazione la trovo eccellente e l'interpretazione vocale femminile la trovo più naturale e meno artificiosa

    • @Hussard_en_Afrique
      @Hussard_en_Afrique Рік тому +2

      Binary mindset prevents the world from blooming. And, by the way, this version is bright.

    • @SayaddinaBeneGesserit
      @SayaddinaBeneGesserit Рік тому

      Ummm screw off. Fagioli killed this. She was flat and boring. Adieu.

  • @giorgiomariani656
    @giorgiomariani656 2 роки тому +8

    Mrs. Vorgic, con voce leggiadra variegata colorita arzigogolata, ha dato a quest'aria barocca un guizzo contemporaneo, con acuti sicuri e ben calibrati. Una cantante interessante, così come l'intero complesso orchestrale.

    • @albertbug86
      @albertbug86 8 місяців тому

      Brava come altre. Complimenti!

  • @maciejszpalerski3351
    @maciejszpalerski3351 3 роки тому +17

    Fantastic! I thought nothing could surprise me after Fagioli, but this lady is brilliant in her own right!

  • @giuseppemarchesini2405
    @giuseppemarchesini2405 3 роки тому +7

    Voce stupenda. Tanta dignità e bellezza. Bravissimi tutti i musicisti. La voce femminile è il massimo per questa aria di Vinci.

  • @HughFromAlice
    @HughFromAlice 2 роки тому +8

    I'd never heard of Vinci before a friend of mine introduced me to his music today. So many lesser known, but amazing, Italian baroque composers - I love Veracini and Barsanti for starters. Also loved this performance for its passion and fine musicality..... great ornamentation. Well done singer and well done orchestra. A big virtual clap from me :-)

  • @a3thinker
    @a3thinker 3 роки тому +6

    Una prestazione degna di una delle più belle Arie del catalogo Vinci. Complimenti.

  • @guillermouribe7853
    @guillermouribe7853 3 роки тому +10

    Excelente interpretación, a sus pies madame. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.

  • @stewartfraser2574
    @stewartfraser2574 3 роки тому +6

    One of the most challenging Arias to sing, and this singer does it brilliantly.

  • @guillermouribe7853
    @guillermouribe7853 3 роки тому +7

    Sublime interpretación. Bravo bravo 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 saludos 👋👋👋👋 desde México.

  • @danilodelgiudice1931
    @danilodelgiudice1931 2 роки тому +3

    Brava bravissima : impegnativa interpretazione femminile di una aria immortale del repertorio di Vinci!!

  • @GIROSSINI58
    @GIROSSINI58 3 роки тому +6

    BRAVA. E BRAVi. Splendida voce, ottima tecnica e intonazione timbrica. Grazie.

  • @keithratcliffe2235
    @keithratcliffe2235 Рік тому +4

    Really enjoyed this sung by a beautiful saprano.Fogioli is far more theatrical and I loathe to compare and contrast,just enjoy both wonderful performances.

  • @nerushimoe
    @nerushimoe 3 роки тому +17

    So great to see a new person in this area! A very few performers are able to master it on this level. Great technique, tempo, expression. Outstanding!

    • @NewBelgradeOpera
      @NewBelgradeOpera  3 роки тому +1

      Wow, thank you!

    • @GIROSSINI58
      @GIROSSINI58 3 роки тому

      I agree. Eccellente performance di "canto spianato". Sono curioso del risultato se potesse provare a cantare "in maschera", Rodolfo Celletti docet!

    • @luisgonzalezorellana8460
      @luisgonzalezorellana8460 10 місяців тому

      ¡ Me impresiona tanta " diplomacia y condescendencia " frente a una triste realidad !
      Si quieren " coquetear ", está bien. Pero... ¿ Es necesaria tanta hipocresía ??
      ¡ La ejecución; ES MALA, Y PUNTO !
      Voz plana, sin emosión, no llega a tonos altos y cuando lo intenta, desafina horriblemente,se come los bajos y partes del area, corta los cantabile y frases por falta de buena respiración. Muy mala vocalización y peor impostación.
      Y no es por hacer comparaciones y nada. Pero esta obra fue escrita por Vinci para castrados y tenor.
      Es decir; una exigencia interpretativa solo para este tipo de voces ( castrados o contratenores ) por el amplio rango musical.
      La verdad es una y nada más.

  • @bernardgravil4397
    @bernardgravil4397 Рік тому +1

    on ne doit pas comparer l'interprétation de fagioli avec celle-ci . Cette voix féminine est à sa place ici ,après c'est affaire de gout .Bravo

  • @gabrielemunari4797
    @gabrielemunari4797 2 роки тому +3

    Ma che brava!
    Complimenti!
    Voce Stupenda!

  • @Agaveo_Productions
    @Agaveo_Productions 2 роки тому +2

    Bella interpretazione. Radoslava Brava, Bravissima e Bravi i musicisti di New Trinity!

  • @VeganWithAraygun
    @VeganWithAraygun 2 роки тому +1

    Astounding. Astonishing. Sweet. Beautiful. Skillful. Awesomeness..... & so is her singing....& so is the ensemble &. . . . Wow. Just...wow!🔥❤️

  • @alainbastien5593
    @alainbastien5593 5 місяців тому

    Merveilleuse interprétation, je vais la réécouter en boucle avec beaucoup de plaisir !
    Merci pour cette vidéo !❤

  • @leodepuydt308
    @leodepuydt308 3 роки тому +10

    Fantastic performance. The very best of what western music has to offer. Excellent recording with very robust basso continuo, one can feel the depth. How do they do it with so few instruments? I have no idea. It sounds like a 1000-people orchestra. This lady is a baroque super star. Franco Fagioli's performance is of course well known. My attachment to Vinci is evidently that I know that Pergolesi, the greatest composer of all time, heard Vinci in 1725-1730 and wanted to compose exactly like him. The rest is history. This is a historical performance for the ages. Leo Depuydt

  • @marchandesermf2854
    @marchandesermf2854 Рік тому +1

    So good interprétation !......

  • @giuseppemarchesini2405
    @giuseppemarchesini2405 Рік тому +1

    Potreste cantare anche Pergolesi "Scuote e fa guerra" da Il Flaminio : la vostra voce è estremamente adatta al repertorio barocco. Bravissimo Ensemble New Trinity Baroque

  • @AlbertoSanchez-ti9fj
    @AlbertoSanchez-ti9fj 3 роки тому +10

    Voy surcando un mar encrespado,
    sin velas ni cordelería.
    Tiembla el mar, el cielo se enfosca,
    arrecia el viento, flaquean las fuerzas,
    y los caprichos de la Fortuna
    me arrastran sin piedad.
    Infeliz, en este estado
    me veo abandonado por todos.
    Solo permanece la inocencia
    que es causa de mi naufragio.

  • @yueyishanguei
    @yueyishanguei 3 роки тому +2

    what fun !!
    brought a big smile to a sunday night
    thank you for the post
    mxncb

  • @sergeciccone2657
    @sergeciccone2657 2 роки тому +3

    Merci pour ce partage... Bravo !!!

  • @h.donkersloot9965
    @h.donkersloot9965 2 роки тому +3

    Wauw! Mindblowing performance of my favorite aria.👍

  • @danielrodriguez9630
    @danielrodriguez9630 3 роки тому +3

    Suena fantastico.
    Felicitaciones

  • @danielao9585
    @danielao9585 10 місяців тому +2

    Brava! Interpretazione molto personale…

  • @marcopaganelli6059
    @marcopaganelli6059 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful voice ❤

  • @NewBelgradeOpera
    @NewBelgradeOpera  3 роки тому +12

    LYRICS:
    Vo solcando un mar crudele
    Senza vele, e senza sarte:
    Freme l’onda, il ciel s’imbruna
    Cresce il vento, e manca l’arte;
    E il voler della fortuna
    Son costretto a seguitar.
    Infelice! in questo stato
    Son da tutti abbandonato:
    Meco sola e l’innocenza,
    Chi mi porta a naufragar.
    ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
    I'm drifting down the cruel sea
    without a sail and without tailors
    the waves are roaring, the sky is darkening
    the wind is rising, and I'm out of ability to navigate
    and a fate's will
    I'm obligated to follow.
    Unhappy! In this situation
    everybody abandoned me
    only with myself and the innocence
    that causes my shipwreck.

  • @gruyerolivier1842
    @gruyerolivier1842 3 роки тому +7

    Magnifiques passages ds le aigu...mais un peu plus de folie est nécessaire!!!

  • @outdatedchannnel
    @outdatedchannnel Рік тому +1

    Superba!!!!! 🎉

  • @danielrodriguez9630
    @danielrodriguez9630 3 роки тому +4

    Me gustan los matices de su voz.
    Hermosa por cierto...

  • @tonimontana1
    @tonimontana1 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful! Beautiful! Beautiful!

  • @sandra19980
    @sandra19980 3 роки тому +5

    ❤ ovo me nosi!

  • @albertbug86
    @albertbug86 8 місяців тому +1

    Brava come tante.

  • @ericdelf
    @ericdelf 2 роки тому +2

    I enjoy.

  • @Handtwig
    @Handtwig 2 роки тому +3

    perfetto! Another (other Fagiolio) interpretation of techicaly complex and beautiful Vinci's masterpiece! Bravo!

  • @dragidraganovic1226
    @dragidraganovic1226 3 роки тому +3

    Es war mir ein Vergnügen Frau Vorgić auf einer kurzen Fahrt kennengelernt zu haben!
    Puno pozdrava iz Hamburg!

  • @danielrodriguez9630
    @danielrodriguez9630 3 роки тому +2

    Canta como los angeles .

  • @manbaroque
    @manbaroque 2 роки тому +2

    Tremenda Radovana, bravísima.

  • @marilynramberg2637
    @marilynramberg2637 3 роки тому +6

    I agree that she is a wonderful singer, has a lovely voice and great stage presence - But I also agree with Opera Triple Axel in that her voice and this aria may not be the best match - her voice is light, flexible and lovely as she ascends, but weakens in the lower middle to lower range,. I just think it comes off better sung by a good countertenor or mezzo soprano. She also seems to be fatiguing as the aria progresses - would love to hear her singing something different, perhaps Mozart
    or in general a coloratura aria that sits higher.? I looking forward to seeing her perform something along those lines....

    • @leodepuydt308
      @leodepuydt308 2 роки тому +1

      Why sing Mozart if she can sing Vinci? Who's Mozart, do you know who he is? Leo Depuydt

    • @marcopaganelli6059
      @marcopaganelli6059 Рік тому +1

      Marilyn ramberg i feel very confortable listening to her lows She sing perfecly with mixed chest and head voice and sounds so complete in her range no passages her voice Is fluid and resonant never weak, Always in tune very agile and with almost perfect italian pronuntiation, a good expression of the emotions and feelings what you can expect Better from an artist? She performed at her best. And her best Is top quality.

  • @mickebon
    @mickebon 3 роки тому +3

    💜

  • @PM.68
    @PM.68 3 роки тому +3

    Brava

  • @ЕвгенияКиселёва-ы1п

    Здорово!

  • @paulhaber3778
    @paulhaber3778 2 роки тому

    Lovely.

  • @younghung6499
    @younghung6499 5 місяців тому +1

  • @viba1657
    @viba1657 2 роки тому

    Нечего добавить, кроме Браво !

  • @Mini_Min_
    @Mini_Min_ 4 місяці тому +1

    I much prefer this to countertenors who for some reason seem to have become the norm. I find most countertenors' singing lacking dimension because of the way they produce their sound, also almost all of them create ornamentation with their larynx which makes the already unpleasant voice quite guttural. Unfortunate, because there's often some fine musicianship. This is way more enjoyable to me because the lady is using her natural voice with all its overtones and the ornamentation is on the breath like it should be.

  • @achimschick8929
    @achimschick8929 2 роки тому

    Sie singt gut, aber die Konkurrenz ist tatsächlich mit Fagioli und Jaroussky sehr stark. Der Vortrag ist zwar sehr engagiert, aber mir zu laut, zu wenig nuanciert und es fehlt die "vogelgleiche Leichtigkeit". Die Arie ist eben sehr lange und sehr anspruchvoll, da trennt sich gut von sehr gut.

  • @giodukremlin
    @giodukremlin 3 роки тому +7

    Je reconnais l'effort de la soprano, mais elle manque de rythme et de justesse. Belle tentative de s'attaquer à ce morceau d'anthologie, cependant la puissance n'est pas là !

    • @tenor-haute-contre
      @tenor-haute-contre 3 роки тому +2

      Je trouve le timbre très beau, malgré tout :) c'est clair, limpide et le chant pas avalé en arrière al bel canto « moderne ». Il y a du soutien, je ne ressens pas vrmt de tension pour compenser à une faiblesse pour projeter.

  • @miuzefreak
    @miuzefreak 3 роки тому +3

    it s just too unfortunate we just heard Franco Fagioli s interpretation. hehe. he s the one to beat!

  • @blairribeca5858
    @blairribeca5858 3 роки тому +2

    She sings good for a girl.

  • @СветланаЧетверикова-ы4д

    Уровень самодеятельности

  • @mariorossetto9464
    @mariorossetto9464 3 роки тому +3

    LOOK AT FRANCO FAGIOLI, NO COMPARISON.....

    • @nerushimoe
      @nerushimoe 3 роки тому

      Better look at Christopher R. Skinner's version. Fagioli has no chances there;)

    • @Grzegorz1972
      @Grzegorz1972 9 місяців тому +1

      Póki co nie słyszałem lepszego wykonania niż Franco Fagioli, jednak chylę czoła że względu na trudność wykonawczą tego utworu.

    • @mariorossetto9464
      @mariorossetto9464 9 місяців тому

      @@Grzegorz1972 please translate into englih

  • @theoperatripleaxel5417
    @theoperatripleaxel5417 3 роки тому +7

    She is beautiful, but this aria just doesn't work with a soprano... A countertenor is needed for the masculine sound to coome.

    • @tenor-haute-contre
      @tenor-haute-contre 3 роки тому +11

      Just so you know, contemporaries of Vinci and himself would've likely preferred to replace castrati, if needed, with female singers. Falsettists were not so useful to them.

    • @theoperatripleaxel5417
      @theoperatripleaxel5417 3 роки тому +5

      @@tenor-haute-contre cause countertenors technique was in decline, i'm a doctor in the subject u dont really need to tutore me... The thing is, a good countertenor is a rare thing, but when it happens is the best solution, there were even castrati that were actually countertenors using the same technique cause the castration itself did not alter the voice cause it was just partially done.

    • @mariorossetto9464
      @mariorossetto9464 3 роки тому +3

      IN FACT, LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE OF FRANCO FAGIOLI ON UA-cam, TOO.....

    • @tenor-haute-contre
      @tenor-haute-contre 3 роки тому +2

      @@theoperatripleaxel5417 I personally don't know of any Castrato who was in fact a falsettist, aside from Rauzzini (maybe ?)
      Italian falsettists did exist, sure, Caldara and Lotti were mature Alto singers and some Tenors like Fabri and Cignoni did sing female roles before their voice broke. However, I fail to find any example of those guys continuing their career as falsettists when they're fully grown adults.
      Just to be precise, I am only talking about Italian operas and any stage except for the British one, which I know did use some « Counter-tenors ». However, looking through documents and ms related to München, Vienna, Dresden's courts, all the dudes that passed through as Soprani or Contralti were Castrati (unless I'm really missing something!).
      What I find to be more lacking today are not falsettists, but female contralti ! Tons of them existed in the past and some like Diana Vico were even reknowned for playing male roles :)

    • @leodepuydt308
      @leodepuydt308 2 роки тому +2

      Well, she is not only beautiful. She also has quite a voice. I have listened dozens of times to both versions, by a soprano and by a countertenor. Evidently, I have not had the privilege of listening to a castrato, a woman's voice with the lungs of a man. Some modern day countertenors probably come very close to this ideal. The Catholic Church caused the castratos by not allowing women to sing. And then when they tried to stop it, the Italians liked it so much that there was no way back. The discussion remains very useful having. Some modern eminent musicians actually have preferred a female voice, I am not sure why. Then again, the artistry of countertenors has improved in the past few decades. For the time being, I think that both offer a unique angle of performing . When I listen to both, I do enjoy the unique perspective that they have to offer. Historically, the fact remains that authenticity can only be guaranteed by having it sung by castrated males (though some males retain their puber voice for some reason in the present day). The discussion goes on. The female soprano voice cannot match the power of the male castrato because of the male lung capacity. But it does have its own timbre. The discussion goes on. But there is no doubt that this is a stellar performance, especially but not only in my opinion for producing Vinci's legendary vigor on steroids with such a small ensemble. Leo Depuydt (Brown University)

  • @SayaddinaBeneGesserit
    @SayaddinaBeneGesserit Рік тому +1

    Fagioli forever…second best but hey 🤣