Hey folks! As mentioned in this video Cheslin is currently working his way through his law degree. There is an active fundraiser if you'd like to help him through his studies. I've never interacted with Cheslin and no pressure, but it would be incredible for us to help restore his faith in the goodness of humanity. The link can be found here - gogetfunding.com/help-cheslin-marsh-get-his-law-degree/ The campaign is led by a journalist who had the opportunity to interview Cheslin and create an excellent documentary based on the events of May 27th. You can also help the Hannah Cornelius Foundation, which supports children and youth who are vulnerable to violence here. HCF is registered and confirmed to be a non-profit organisation - hcfoundation.org.za/ Edit: Cheslin's fundraiser has reached its target! You folks are incredible!! ✨
I do remember this horrifying case. Hannah, such a sweet compassionate young woman, just starting her life, Didn't deserve this!! I'm so glad that there was a survivor to help bring this EVIL TO JUSTICE!! Condolences HANNAH!!💔🙏🏾💔 ((You've done an OUTSTANDING job on this case!! CONGRATULATIONS to you COFFEEHOUSE CRIME continued success))👍🏾
Thank you for covering more cases from South Africa. We don't get much coverage and I feel it's good the world knows about the heinous crimes that happen here.
I wish all banks, everywhere on earth, had an emergency ‘fake password’ policy, a password that would allow the person to withdraw money, but would immediately alert police that the card has been stolen. If authorities act fast enough to track the perpetrators, even lives might be saved.
The only thing is, once they are aware this exists, they will work around it . It’s like people now knowing there are cameras at cash points and therefore thieves wear hats or cover their faces . Or people now turning their mobile phones off because they realise they can now be tracked by phone masts. There was a time when people didn’t realise fingerprints could identify them, now they always wear gloves. I feel like something like this needs to be implemented but not publicised.
@@_Y.Not_ that’s newer cars. Hannah’s car looks like an older generation. It most likely didn’t have the auto lock feature. Edit: and if it did, it most likely wasn’t working.
'They crushed her head with a 40 kilogram rock.' Imagine how empty you have to be inside in order to be able to do something like this. Not an ounce of humanity left in them.
And not running away. My mom had one of those cars, and if I was bundled into that boot with those scumbags, I would easily kick out the rear window and run like the wind. Maybe he stuck around for her sake.
@@gerhardvaneeden5615I think Cheslin stuck around for Hannah, too. He knew she was their target since she remained in the front seat with them, which is often the case when women are abducted. Truly tragic all around.
@@LaNoturna Very true. She should have just gone inside after he dropped her off. His purpose for doing so was solely to ensure she reached home safely. She undid that by driving him home, not understanding that, in a vehicle or not, she would still have ended up a lone female on those streets late at night. Wisdom is the principal thing.
Hannah's poor father..... He has no wife to help console him (as I'm certain he'd have consoled her as well) He has to answer his son's child-like misunderstanding of the whereabouts of his mother & sister. I can't begin to understand his pain 😢
No human could inflict that kind of pain and smile. I wonder what drives such evil and apathy, this was horrible. Rest in peace and my heart goes out to the father, family, and friends :(
His son is autistic to a degree where he doesn't understands what happened ...so i doubt it its even worse when you're alone in pain ..I cannot imagine
@@silverdale3207 Absolutely-many parents that lose children get cancer and pass from it due to stress. Look into the story of Jimmy Rice from Florida. He was a 9 year old boy abducted, assaulted, and killed by a man-and the mother passed away from cancer a few years later. Then his sister committed suicide at 31 years old. His father is left alone, never to remarry or have more kids. These murderers ruin entire families-not just the victim they kill. Beautiful families forever broken.
Something you didn’t mention is that one of the attackers literally wore the jacket that they stole from Cheslin in court and they all had the audacity to plead not guilty
They are laughing and smiling on the stand. I will never understand that level of stupidity. Now instead of a hard working clever girl who would have become a useful part of society, we have four smiling idiots that we have to feed and cloth in jail. These crimes are not only about the families, the ripple effect is unbelievable.
But that's how poorly our system is designed. I don't understand how there isn't a better way. I mean, there is. We could just execute people like this, who aren't worth the oxygen they breathe. But people who aren't involved got feelings and opinions, and politicians can utilize that for greater stagnation. It's bullshit. In a case like this, the only people who should have any fucking say over what happens with these people are the victims families, and if the victims families want an eye for an eye - kill those fucking trash bags.
And what's worse, is we pay for them to get an education and to profit off writing books and selling artwork while in prison. Prison should be like it was in the old days, chain gangs and 3 meals and a cot, not recreation and TV, exercise and storyline. Prisoners should not have more rights than the people they killed or maimed.
I always believe the death sentence is needed for situations like this. I don’t know what could posses anyone to do this to innocent people. Just disgusting and senseless. It’s not shocking they continued their crime spree, they just didn’t care.
Although I agree. I'd say life imprisonment is a death sentence. It's just a prolonged sentence. With the death sentence they do jail time and then eventually have a date set for their death. But with life, they have to live every single day with what they've done until their very last breath. In my opinion I think that is the best way for justice to be served. Why should they get a death sentence that causes no pain and then stops their suffering when they're the causes for pain and suffering from crimes they've committed. They didn't show signs of morals, humanity and mercy upon Hannah or Cheslin. So why should they get an easy death when they had to endure such pain in their by those men and take the life of one of them and leave the other for dead. Even Hannah's mother suffered in her end because of the actions of these men taking her little girl away. But that's just my opinion. I guess everyone has their own view on justice and peace. All comes down to what the lasting families feel is right and what will bring them closure.
in cases like this I have to agree. Going by how little they seemed to care about what they'd done, there's no way any of those men deserve to live or have anything left to give to the world. At least make them do useful labour in prison so they're not just a waste of oxygen and space.
@@ragingredhead9555 if you want them to feel pain for what they did Put them in permanent isolation No books or any form of stimulation. After a year they will already be miserable and after 10 they might already be insane Your brain rather have pain then no stimulation
This case has haunted me ever since. There is now another victim of this horrendous story Willem, Hannah' s Father recently died of cancer leaving her brother behind without family. Thank you for covering this story, sadly South Africa is a very violent country and rarely is there justice. In fact most often perpetrators are released on bail. There are way too many Hannahs and Uyinenes.
Hi Coffee House Crime. These guys should get the death penalty in my opinion. This just goes to show how their country is obviously corrupt or else they would've gotten that if they have it. RIP Hannah and also RIP to your Mom too. Adrian thanks so much for explaining these cases so everyone can understand them without being confused. Hope you are having a fabulous and peaceful evening, peace and joyful times to you, love, Janine Smiley😀🙂🤩😍😎🍦🍨🍧🍫🎂🍰🥧👜🛍✌👍💅🇬🇧🇺🇸🆒️⛾🍯☕🍩☕🍪
Sadly for Hannah and Cheslin, even if Cheslin had given them the correct PIN, the events of the night likely would have gone the same way. That they were laughing during the trial shows that they have zero regard for anyone but themselves - they would have killed Hannah and Cheslin anyway just to silence any witnesses.
@@azazello1784 Hannah wasn't the one who denied to give them anything and she died regardless. You're trying to apply logic to sociopathic murderers who do whatever they want on a whim. Who knows.
I think in cases like this an eye for an eye is a more apropiate punishment. The right measure here would be either the death penalty on the electric chair, or life in prison with either daily torture or extensive fizical labor. Those people have nothing in common with what it means to be human, they are monsters without any remorse and they deserve to be treated as such.
This one really got me man...okay just take their car then...just rob them and let them go....why do they have to kill them like this. So enraging man.
I've heard of this case before. My heart broke into pieces at what Hannah went through. The audacity of these arseholes having no remorse and laughing at the trial incenses me.
You know they're getting everything they deserve in a South African prison. Say what you will about the faults of the prison system, but cases like this make me glad that "convict justice" exists. Here's hoping that every moment incarcerated is a living nightmare for them.
@@CoffeehouseCrime hope you heal my friend don't let the work destroy your soul and peace of mind sometimesni just need to check out for a while and remember there is some real good in the world too. Mostly animal videos.
The fact that her brother still asks about her and he doesn’t understand omg that is beyond heartbreaking 😪😪 he probably asks about his mom all the time too. That poor dad I can’t imagine.
I feel extremely sorry for the father and the brother too. As for the mother, what an extremely selfish thing to do. Sure she was hurting but did she not think to herself the hurt that she'd cause her husband and son when she committed suicide? No, she only thought about herself.
@@jimmyavpi calling someone committing suicide selfish is always so disgusting and disrespectful. you obviously come from a place of no understanding whatsoever of what it is to actually live with so much pain that would lead you to that path. i hope you never experience it, but you should really try to be more understanding when it comes to something as horrible as suicide, and no it is not selfish, it's much more complex and sad.
@@jimmyavpi please do not judge someone who felt so hopeless they walked into an ocean to die. Pain doesn't just come in physical form. Please be more careful with your words. If you are, however, someone who has been affected by suicide personally I would urge you to think more deeply and empathetically on it and I hope you find peace.
@@edelleaa It's completely selfish, what about her husband and son? What about the pain they were already living with and then the extra pain caused by her selfish actions? There is nothing complex about being selfish, she thought about herself and couldn't a damn about her husband and CHILD!!! A child SHE brought into this world.
The comment you made towards the end about her brother still asking when she is coming home legit made me cry its so tragic that her life was cut so short especially when she clearly had so much good to give to the world
@@heathervarcoe6894 Why do you make assumptions? They are not out, they are serving their time. What benefit does your negative comment have. The damage is done. Your comment is self serving.
OMG! Adrian - I AM SO PROUD! I always knew you and the people that watch this channel were the best. Cheslin's campaign had been up for 20 days and wasn't even halfway to the goal. In less than 6 hours of you posting this video - it is 105% funded... and still going strong! It still has just over 11 days to go! Congrats to everyone on here! There are still great people out here who care. So often the sadness and horror of these stories are the only things we see, and the shadows of the evil monsters who lurk among us. Thanks to everyone here, this is a shining example of the power of people refusing to to let the darkness win, and adding light back into to the world. Keep donating everyone! I am sure he likely still has medical bills and therapy (past, present, and future). Let's all help make Cheslin's life while he is in school - the easiest, and worry free as it can be. He will definitely need books, clothes, food, --->>> and COFFEE to get him through.
I am South African from Cape Town. Sadly, crimes like this are never-ending. I myself had a very bad experience, being tied up and my home ransacked. Things could have been far worse if a person upstairs never heard voices and called someone. This is such a tragic story.
Geez! How terrible, sounds like you have your share of the same amount of thugs we have here in the US. Rather than functioning with society, earning a decent living these despicable parasites think they can just help themselves to other persons things. Their ugly smiles disgusted me.
How 😭 I feel for Hannah and her family. Her mom who couldn't get over her sorrow. My prayers for her and her mother. May God bless them abundantly in heaven.
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 The death sentence isn't that easy. They have to wait years, decades to die. Plus, these people never change, they are sick in the head. Why should taxpayers feed them, pay for their education?
death sentences are proven to not stop crimals from doing this messed up shit & also south africa has some of the worse prisons on the world they basically fkd
Cheslin's fund raiser is 120% funded, and lots of mentions of support and Coffeehouse Crime from donors its just wonderful. As an avid fan of true crime I love that this community above all honors victims and will go to extra mile to do this where we can
@@CoffeehouseCrime Can you please do a case on Sanda Dia from Belgium. He’s black student who had died of severe hazing by 17 rich white students whose parents are judges, lawyers etc. They called him a N-word, and did worse things to him and then, cleaned up everything like nothing happened.
You can't change my mind about the Death Penalty, some people just deserve that, especially cases like this. R.I.P Hannah Cornelius, you never deserved what happened to you
Nah these people dont deserve to have an easy way out,they deserve to be tortured in the worst way possible and just before they die bring them back to life and do it all over again and again and again.
I absolutely agree. You often hear people say that they'll suffer in prison and thats worse but thats just not true. Most people that go to prison for long periods of time settle into life in prison just fine, living a fairly normal life other than not being able to leave. They develop relationships, have fun and still get to feel the love of their family. The death penalty is absolutely what someone deserves in cases like this. They don't deserve to live a long life breathing air even laughing and having one more good day. With regular hardworking people supporting them for the rest of their lives never having to worry about where they'll get their next meal, or hot shower or warm bed...
The reason why people believe the death penalty is unjust is because of the simple fact that innocent people get sentenced to death sometimes. It's just a fact that comes with a flawed system. In order to justly kill bad people, you statistically will have to kill some innocent, and not everyone is okay with that.
So sad for Hannah and Cheslin. I'm sure Cheslin will have terrible dreams and survivors guilt. Stay strong Cheslin and I feel so sad for Hannah's family.
You forgot to say that Hannah‘s father also resigned from being a magistrate for not believing that he worked many yrs to judge criminals and the worst crime was committed to his own daughter.Quite a sad case
The fact that there was an image shown of the 4 killers sitting in court with one smiling and another with a smirk makes me ill. Death penality is absolutely warranted in cases like this.
Made me ill too. His horrible yellow teeth grinning. Worse than animals from the gutter of evil. I would push a button that released 4 huge rocks onto there heads in a second.
"The very rock used to kill Hannah was brought in as evidence" Damn, that's one huge rock. Looks more like a boulder. It must have taken at least two of them just to lift it. The fact that they exerted that much effort to carry out a murder makes their actions even more horrific. What a shame SA doesn't have the death penalty.
In Schweinfurt, GE, I had investigated the murder of a young lady by a soldier. During the trial, the prosecution not only presented the ballpine but the victim's skull showing all the fractures the victim had suffered. The only way the scumbag is getting out of Leavenworth is in a pine box.
I was living in Stellenbosch and going to the university when this happened and it still haunts me. The year after these events, when I started going to a different campus, my daily commute would take me past the paintball grounds and I would just not be able to get my mind off of the horrific things these men did. Thank you for bringing life to this case and to Hannah. May she rest in peace
@@hus390 I never knew her personally and yet this video still really hit home for me as this whole case always does, I can only imagine how painful it must have been and still is for her loved ones. I hate having to live in constant suspicion of strangers and having to be aware of my surroundings 24/7 but unfortunately not doing so can really have some tragic consequences.
I knew Hannah well, she was a friend of mine and someone within our friend group. I was so shocked to see this video, I haven't even started watching and I don't think I can. It changed all of us in such a large way and it really shocked our entire community. We tried everything we could, there wasn't a single person that I knew not calling for those who did this to not be tortured for the rest of their life. They'll never be 'punished' enough. That's life in Cape Town, it shouldn't be, but it's a reality for most people. This is just the most particularly brutal case in a long time. It wasn't about any of us except for her. I hope she (and her mom) are doing better wherever they are now, or at least in some peace.
Are you for real? I can’t wrap my head around such hatefulness, bigotry, and ignorance being expressed so matter of factly in this day and age when everyone should know better. Believing in and spreading your backward ideas is just the kind of shit that perpetuates violence and hate to continue happening.
I'm so sorry for your loss, I don't think you need to watch the video, it might just open old wounds. But I can at least tell you that he did a very good job in covering her story and did it with a lot of respect.
I am heartbroken at this tradegy. I live in Cape Town South Africa. I wish Cheslin all the best with his studies and career in law. Evil does not and should never win. Hannah's father, brother and all who loved her are in my prayers and thoughts, what a privilege you had to have known this amazing angel!
Her whole family is dead now except for her brother, who is now alone. Her mother killed herself as the video said, and I read that her father died of cancer in late 2022.
I was one of the people that requested this. Thank you so much for this perspective of Hanna’s story. This was heartbreaking to say the least. Thank you for the respect in the way you told this story ❤
vasigan moodley, did South Africa ever had the death penalty? Couldn't voters demand that your politicians bring the death penalty to South Africa? What these diabolical monsters had done to Cheslin, Hannah, the other victims, and Hannahs' mom is truly horrendous!!
Plaasmoorde : The Ki77ing Fields, documentary of SA (Katie Hopkins) and Farmlands (with Lauren Southern)....eye opening documentaries. Atrocities appallingly swept under the rug by media seem to be a common theme. Respect from NZ.
The most tragic thing about this story to me is that it likely never would've happened had Hannah not insisted on driving Cheslin back home. But how could she have ever known that? She literally did it with the intent of preventing this exact situation.
@大哥哥Eric Poor or not these thugs did not have to KILL!! So NO I don't accept its because of poverty. The return of the death penalty is needed to be reinstated in South Africa for scrum like these less than human garbage In MY OPINION
@大哥哥Eric It's more than just poverty. It's a culture of much violence. I wish it wasn't like that. The thought of children growing up in that environment is heartbreaking.
I really do love how you give us a bit of insight into the places themselves. I know next to nothing about the country of South Africa, but it's always nice to hear some information about it and what it's like. And it especially helps to understand the environment each person in these cases grew up in and were accustomed to. It really just completes the whole picture for every case you cover. May Hannah and her mother rest peacefully.
He really makes south Africa sound great. Not the one i live in and know. I want to live in that south Africa not the real one. We have more farmers killed in a day than cars getting hijacked. Its like a sport
As someone who briefly knew Hannah in primary school, I really appreciate you taking the time to ensure accuracy of details and pay tribute to her character. Although I knew her so briefly and so many years ago, her kindness had a profound impact on me -- she really was a cut above the rest and when I heard about what happened to her, it just seemed as though she was the absolute last person to ever deserve such a horrific experience and death (not that anyone deserves it). Thank you for telling her story with such empathy.
That's so sad that someone like her is taken....yet people like Putin and trump get to carry on living destroying this world.... Hanna is up there with angels now....she was one down here on Earth as well...May she RIP💖
Never allow yourself to be bound and taken to a second location. Second locations are always much worse for victims. Fight back immediately with your whole might to avoid being kidnapped and taken to another location.
depends on your odds...4+ armed men vs you and a small girl while both of you already have sharp tools at their throat..unless you are really effective in selfdefence I would assume you have better chances by submission...atleast until you are in a better position...
True but sadly many will let fear take control. Fighting as your life depends on it when they try to take you somewhere else or bound you is the best option you got becuase most end up dead if taken away.
Man, Cheslin is the type of friend I tried to be when I was in college. I'm sure he's imagined an alternate universe where he just rode home on his skateboard. But Hanna was also equally as good a friend and insisted on driving him. Two charitable people in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those thugs should've gotten the death penalty. Rest in peace to Hannah and her mother.
its so fucked up when people have to get used to the felling of "nowhere safe" in some places. Theres never a good time. The streets in some countries are ALWAYS dangerous. And the sad thing is most victims comply thinking they might get spared. This is why many are buying guns and training in this day and age. Because it might be the only way you can actually feel a bit safer than empty handed.
They really had eachother's backs and they did everything right. This really goes to show that even when you take all the correct safety precautions, awful things can still happen. RIP Hannah. Both Hannah and Cheslin were really caring and compassionate friends.
They needed to be far more cautious. Not to sit around in the car talking. To be aware of who is lurking. Especially not to ever go out drinking in a place like SA. Especially such a beautiful girl I don't think should live in such a country. The perpetrators need to be punished in ways that fit the crime. It's a cruel and unusual crime which needs a cruel and unusual punishment.
@@paulievespucci6867 also giving a fake password is the first instinct, but it is clearly something you shouldnt do when you and your friend are under control from 4 criminals. My country is very danerous and one thing is clear to me: my life is not worth whatever I have in my wallet, Never. specially when i´m not the only person been robed.
@@mateovasquezfranco3025 Yeah, there was no point in giving a fake password in any case. Even if your captors weren't murderous psychos, they'll just ask again for your password but this time with more violence.
My home town her dad is an amazing man and has poured his grief into helping the community as a retired much respected magistrate . He lost his daughter and his wife months apart. Thankyou for covering this xxxx so tragic no one is safe night time in South Africa. Sadly these evil people are probably thriving in this jail system where the inmates run the jail houses on weekends not the people that are supposed to be in charge.
This maybe the case.. but at least they had their freedom taken away from them. They will NEVER be allowed out of prison, they will die in that prison! What they did to that beautiful girl and that young intelligent guy is sickening beyond any level. And then the audacity to smile and laugh during their trial 🤬🙄 evil at it’s finest.
My heart breaks for Cheslin and the horrible situation these cruel people put him in. I hope he manages to put all this behind him and live a happy, full life. RIP Hannah ❤
Looking at them sitting there laughing and smiling in court is absolutely gut wrenching… they stole the lives of a daughter and her mother .. violently trying to murder cheslin and so much more. I’ll never understand how someone could ever do this … and just heartbroken for her family and cheslin and his family
I think just for the way they acted in court, on top of killing Hannah and attempting to kill Cheslin, they deserve the death penalty for not showing one ounce of remorse. Disgusting human beings.
I dont think they know anything but that way of living im sure they did this to many girls before but they got caught now , they are behind in evolution, animals,
No one gets away with murder. No justice system can get true justice for the victims and their families. Because, they can only take the life of the murder but they can not give the life of the victim back. But the source of life can. A life for a life ... when someone murders another person they will lose out on everlasting life. The creator can give life back to the victim so they can pursue everlasting life. The murderer looses out on that hope. Once he dies he dies forever.
They should get the plastic bag treatment. Simple put a plastic over their heads & seal it. Their hands tied of course so that they can't move. Then they can smile all they want. Aka John Wick in one of his movies.
Adrian, you’ve made Coffee House Crime so much more than the usual horrific telling of the bad against the innocent. You’ve presented and given every story a caress of importance to the victim. I appreciate the emotion you radiate as a storyteller.
why is it everyone that is the victim is "wonderful and compassionate and loving and intelligent and beautiful". Am i to believe that not one of these people are kind of a d1ck sometimes? maybe a little selfish and self centered? i call BS on the "noble victim" narrative; though i am aware they dont(mostly or at all) deserve to be murdered.
It's stories like this that remind me why I (and thousands of others) left South Africa. Born and raised there, it just started feeling less and less safe to live there. I also want to mention that I never heard about this story in the news and it wasn't that long ago but that is just how it goes. I'm more surprised by the 4 demons being caught and actually prosecutted. That in itself is a miracle.
i live in durban south africa and had a similar experience. was hijacked and in the boot for about 6 hours - usually people suffocate because there is no air in a boot when the car doesnt move. was taken to a forest in the middle of nowhere - where i was certain i would be shot and left for dead. Also asked for pin numbers - I'll never forget this one sentence "be very careful how you answer this question or it will be your last. I had accepted I was gonna die at some point in that evening. was surreal to survive. the police said that I was lucky to survive that - i credit my ability to somehow remain calm - even tho i am highly claustrophobic and being in a boot was initially my greatest fear. people here too often think money or their car or something else is more valuable than their lives. too many lose this battle almost every single day here. we live like prisoners mostly. I was one of the lucky ones - most are not :(
@@fernfreeman1729 lol its exactly what I've been working towards every day since the pandemic. especially after a couple floods and a week long riot that ravaged the city i live in. UA-cam Durban riots - its madness. outside my house - felt like end of the world. its also not very easy trying to do this from here unfortunately. this country has gotten and is getting progressively worse. we literally at breaking point of total collapse -its imminent i think
So sorry that happened to you, how awful! Amazing you survived, you should be proud of your resilience and how you handled the situation. Wishing you all the best for a bright future mate!
The level of care for the victims and their families and attention to detail in the research is why I keep coming back. You really do your homework and it shows. Thanks for another video. 😁
I absolutely love the way you always treat the victims in these cases with respect and highlight their achievements. Some other channels seem to make light of these situations for views and it's very touching to me that you give them the dignity they deserve.
I’m 13 minutes in, and I’m crying. Hannah and Cheslin looking after each other like that only to be targeted in such a scary crime is horrific. I’m so disgusted by every single detail. My heart goes out to Cheslin and Hannah’s loved ones. May she rest in peace 😔
this is so heartbreaking story. Poor darling Hannah....... she did not deserve to die. What a horrible people who killed her, no empathy, like evil zombies. This story made me cry, it is so sad and trully horrific. Sending much love to Hannah's family, they must be so affected by her death. And dear Hannah, we remember you, we know your name, we know your story, dear angel, rest in peace 🕊
If anything makes me question my stance on the death penalty, it’s cases like this. It’s hard to thank you for covering these stories, but it’s better they’re brought to light than left unknown.
Yep. Any case like this where there is absolutely no doubt the correct people are caught should be immediate death for the three actual murderers. Life for the other guy.
I don't ever want to see the death penalty removed. Sense of morality be damned. Where was their sense of morality when they were bashing innocent peoples head open, and raping a girl. No, no compassion for them. You can't rehab everyone, and let's not keep wasting the tax payer dol feeding and bunking these scum until retirement.
@@bushmonster1702 For these guys, it's the only right thing to do. The nordic system of putting them in nice rooms, giving them education, etc is too good for these killers.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. It hit me very hard. She was so kind a person that she wanted to protect her friend, and it got her killed... senseless, just senseless evil.
Can imagine Cheslin carries some serious unwarranted guilt about accepting the ride home though it was pretty much insisted. Horrible case. Good for him for facing them at trial, hope it gave him a semblance of closure.
True, we need to teach our children because they were very naive to be that time of the morning at a isolated place basically not being aware of their surroundings. With a locked car and closed windows she could have driven away. This is a tragedy. Rip to her.
Terrifying fact: As a South African, I have to unfortunately say that cases like these are reported on almost every week, it's fearful how I personally am starting to become desensitised to the level of violence committed to both Hanna and Chelsin. All I can hope for is that the families can find healing in knowing that the perpetrators were caught and that Hanna and her mother can rest easy✨🕊
As your next door neighbour (Botswana), I feel for you guys. As I remarked in a comment similar to yours, I just can't comprehend how SA doesn't have the death penalty. Evil this depraved simply can't be allowed to exist. And when the evidence is as airtight as this, it seems straight forward. I don't know if it's because of the proximity, but this case broke me. People shouldn't just be able to destroy lives like this and continue to breathe.
@@TRUEbASNER there are a lot of factors that effect how our constitution is structured; specifically dealing with the recent past of Apartheid. In essence we believe in the preservation of "all lives"; even those who committed horrific crimes against people of colour were encouraged to come forward and apologise to be left unpunished. All these decision were made to avoid civil war. It's clearly not the best solution to things, but I think we fear the destabilisation of the country rather than facing the issues head on.
I worked with a guy whose daughter studied with Hannah... according to everyone, Hannah was a beautiful soul. This case is horrifyingly heart-breaking. RIP sweet Hannah. There are no answers or consolement to cases like this one.
Hannah was aracetraitor, sadly. She datedcolouredguys. That means that even before she was murdered, she was already dead to her European race, since she would most likely have produced mixedraceafrican lookingoffspring one day, instead of European kids. It breaks my heart that even Afrikaners have now been successfully brainwashed into interracialdating and erasing their ownrace by mixing out. Goes to show the dangers of putting a white girl in a very progressive, mixedrace school. That being said, Hannah's death is horrible. That is no way for a person to leave this world. Even if she wasatraitor, no one deserves that kind of end.
The line about her brother still asking for her because he doesn't understand what happened really got me. And that poor man lost his mom too, so he probably doesn't understand where she is either.
South African here. Just want to say thank you for the coverage. Also. This happens to many woman and children in SA daily and nothing seems to change. Something has to change.
This story hit home when it happened here as I live only 40 minutes away from Stellenbosch. So scary, it sat with me for weeks after as it was such a big story here. And bawled my eyes out during this whole video😥. But thank you for covering this story so well Adrian. ❤️
The shit thing is, there is still some much crimes, and some much worse, in our Country 😔😔. I wish he would do the Allison story, horrific as fuck, but prove that not everyone can be broken, and the resolve of an amazing woman.
@@memewithinameme35 yea... now instead of law and order and the highest standard of living in all of sub Sahara Africa.... now it's utter chaos, corruption, crime and poverty!
From skimming the fundraiser comments for Cheslin, it looks like a good 50%+ of donations came from people viewing this video. That is amazing to see the level of compassion and empathy, and the attention being brought to these crimes.
As a South African im appreciative of the kind and professional way you approached this and not jumping to gore and sensationalism like some crime channels and honouring her life and death with dignity and decency. Thank you.
I have to say, Adrian, this story was so heartbreaking, but I am glad that through your coverage of this case, that the fundraiser for Cheslin has more than met its goal and is continuing to rise. You do such great work with your videos and it's amazing that you have built a community of such caring individuals. I'm sure Cheslin will have no problem getting his law degree now.
@@memewithinameme35 SA was more peaceful before it was abolished... look at the country now... I'd rather have law and order than the lawlessness and chaos there now. Not to mention everyone was foing far better under it... higher standard of living, highest average wage in all of Africa, etc.
@@memewithinameme35 Yes and no. The underlying problem is diversity. Diverse socieites are discordant, and western European countries that are embracing diversity by accepting so many immigrants are going to destroy their own countries. The whites in South Africa created everything in the country. Before they were there, there was nothing. No roads, no bridges, no hospitals, no technology, nothing. So Apartheid didn''t take anything away from the local natives. It didn't steal anything from them. Not saying it was the best system, but the difference in advancement between the European settlers and the natives was so vast that it was reasonable for the Europeans to not just give everything they were making to the local natives. Anyway, any country is better off when homogeneous. Every ehtnic group and race should have their own country.
When you said the actions of these "men" were "demonic" you echoed my thoughts that they were monsters. Their lack of anything human besides greed and lust were the worst examples of what our species can be. I hope SA has old fashioned dungeon like prisons!
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@uhjeff3651 What ?? Are you serious? Good men?? So,to attack people at night is what good boys do?? Miserable criminal.I must assume you are one of them..lol.
Man, I'm not sure how you do this. These stories you tell, while important, are gut-wrenching. I'm a pretty stoic guy, but having to research these over and over would break me.
My heart breaks over what those monsters did to Hannah, Cheslin and the other female victims. Hannah's Mother passing away and her brother asking when is Hannah going to come home is super sad. Cheslin in my opinion is a hero and a true friend. Thanks for another informative video Adrian!
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@Khaotic450 "partly black"? Well if you were truly black, then you would be supportive of our brothers. Black lives matter. They are our future engineers and doctors
I watched another episode on her case and starting at her 16th birthday and on , she had family and friends give her gifts that she could donate to underprivileged children. Just a wonderful lady. Such nasty monsters to have taken someone like this from the world.
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@uhjeff3651 it’s not a matter of being racist… I’ve not said a thing about color . They ARE monsters , they ARE trash! Look what they did to this lady and her friend . They had no respect , remorse even in court !
"It feels like we've been left with nothing but tragedy and violence" Adrian, Cheslin lived... against all odds he lived and is using his life (which he was already using well) to continue Hannah's work of helping others. Hannah continues to help people through the charity created in her name. This story horrific as it is spreads her name and the charity with it. The attackers got life, the other complicit got 22 years, no small feat in a South African prison. You have coved stories with much worse endings than this. Justice and life and help for others.
Some stories are so heartbreaking, I wish I would never come across. This is one of them. I genuinely strive to keep my negative thoughts and opinions about others to myself. But in this case, I truly hope those evil monsters rot and are tormented in hell endlessly for what they did to Hannah Cornelius, Cheslin Marsh, and Hannah's mother, Anna. Rest in peace, Hannah and Anna Cornelius. May their memory be a blessing to all who knew and loved them.
Such a great video man! As a man living in SA and studied in Stellenbosch, this one hits close to home. Terrible crimes happen on a daily in the country and the memory of these people who suffered needs to be held highly ! Keep up the great content 🙌🏾!
My love and sympathy goes out to Hannah's family, and to Cheslin; I hope he has a bright future ahead of him. Thanks Adrian for being so respectful in your approach. You're a gem.
How can we even begin to imagine what hanna and cheslin REALLY went through guys, Im feeling completely sickening by this story, Thank you coffeehouse for holding back on the actual gruesome details of this sickness crime, *respect*,. RIP Hannah & Momma ,😔💕
what is there to talk about? do you think words would stop the four lunatics in the video? Take precautions, dont go into town in a high crime country like south africa or bad neighborhoods.
@@smokingowly3607 education can do a lot. In many places, women are seen as less then men and as a property. Teaching about gender equality is crucial.
@@katroamleft4721 its about teaching common western decency for sure. Individual agency, but here is the problem, the places which need this the most are either poor morally bankrupt outcasts, they wont listen, or it is a whole cultural thing in certain countries and they wont listen either. Again precautions, you may call for alot of courses and other useless enforcements here in the west but you are only preaching to the choir at that point. Outside the west, precautions is the way to go.
@@smokingowly3607 God you are racist. I was inclusing western countries as well. "common western decency".... Wow... Just wow. Such a bs. Get off your white Supremecy pedestal.
@@smokingowly3607 That's like saying don't live in America, where we have 1000x the firearm crimes, some on the mass scale, than any other country. People don't choose where they are born...
It's always so sad to hear about this story. This story hits close to home being a Stellenbosch student and was at the same residence during her time there. Hanna was truly a special and unique person. RIP Hanna
I remember this case. As a South African, we were shook and we were super vigilant afterwards. My parents were very hesitant to let me go out at night. This was shortly before I took a job abroad. My family was relieved that I’d be living in a safer country. Truly horrendous that our country is plagued by violence.
Your parents should teach you to be vigilant everywhere on planet . With the amount of illegal aliens immigrated to Western Europe & the US and police incompetence it’s not a huge difference among countries. There are very few places on earth where you can hang around in flip-flops during the night (like Monaco or Singapore) without being (at least) robbed.
I'm South African and I thank the Lord that at least my youngest daughter has left the country and is safe now. Her and I went through an armed robbery 4 months after my husband passed away, while my house was on the market. Police were called to the scene afterwards, they didn't even check for fingerprints. My daughter managed to track our phones and called the police. Four years later, still SILENCE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, like it never happened.
That's not your country, it's a colony, people from your country origin should get help to be back in their origin country, staying in africa is like staying front of the hell doors to wait your death. I watched a documentary about a woman living in south africa, her house have bars at all windows, she have some gun, security camera all the shit like a bank to be safe, and she like to live like that. Who like to live like that?
@@leamissyoy I'm South African and it is terrible to live like this. It's a sad reality because as a child we played in the street and fun. Currently our children are being locked behind bars whilst actually they should be able to play outside and be children.
I can't even imagine what Cheslin goes through on a daily basis. Unfathomably violent trauma, being physically maimed, who undoubtedly struggles with survivors guilt. (my assumption based solely on this video and Cheslin's bravery told within it) Survivors guilt is something I'm familiar with personally, but in nowhere near the same way. *side note* It really hurt my heart when Cheslin was desperately looking for help, but was at first thought to be "just a gang member". I understand South Africa is VASTLY different from where I am from... But, I imagine, *for me (cuz, you know .. my imagination) if anyone clearly hurt, covered in blood, talking about needing help.... was to show up at my door (at any time) I wouldn't even hesitate. NOT EVEN CONJURING A SECOND THOUGHT. The world is terrifying, cruel, scary, and unfair. But, if we allowed that to chip away at our own humanity... I'd find that to be far more frightening.
No problem doing it if you live alone. If you have family your small act of kindness can spell big tragedy on your whole family living with you.and if it result in your demise it will be cruel to your friend and family. Best way will be call the authority directly. Communicate from behind the door and not open. Till you sure everything safe.
People know that people like you exist and will exploit that. There are women involved in gangs whose job is to bait people like yourself. Safest thing to do is keep your door closed and call police. It might save you and your families lives.
Saying you wouldn’t hesitate is dishonest and pretty shitty. People when confronted with these situations act unreliably, don’t put down people for reacting poorly because the odds are you’d act just as badly as they would.
Great to see you covering another tragic story in South Africa. I followed this case and it was terrifying and shameful what Hanna and Cheslin had to endure.
I'm so sick of hearing stories like this... Amazing, selfless people who could literally change the world for the better being taken in the most brutal and evil ways 😞 But thank you for sharing this story so we can remember the beautiful person she was ❤️
There hasn’t been a story I’ve heard in a while from all the true crimes channels I watch that has hurt my heart this badly. I’ve lost a 16 year old cousin to a similar crime…my heart goes out to all the victims of these disgusting men. ❤️🙏🏼
This brought tears to my eyes. Hannah was absolutely gorgeous with such a beautiful personality and her friend was so noble and wonderful. It angers me that those horrendous men did this to these people and their families. Truly tragic.
This case broke my heart... I'm so sorry for what she went through and her senseless death. This world fails women in such cruel ways. Thank you for always covering these cases with so much respect for the victims and their families.
@@BackyardButcher that not a good solution. It would be the same as buying only an extinguisher and no smoke alarm. In your solution there is no smoke alarm. These bastard should have been catched before by either police or psychologist.
@@hitlerhongchrist2045 The perpetration of crime against women by men versus the other way around is so far out of proportion it makes your statement ridiculous. No where did she say the world was cruel only to women, that is just you making up sh*t to promote your woke agenda. Your whole "what about poor men" in the context of her comment smacks of insecurity and a need for victimhood.
@UCtFQccYpKYhLDrXbVja-UBw I visited South Africa with my family about 6 years ago. A beautiful country. Friendly people. I have only nice memories. Unfortunately like in many countries violence can be found.
@@mikaelak90 Good point! But, why did Hannah and her friend take that chance..... to be out and about in (the streets late at night) even sitting in a car.... you wouldn’t be safe!
What a tragic and heartbreaking story. So sad 😥 Lost for words. RIP Hannah and mom 🕊 Your compassion and empathy are immense, Adrian! Appreciate your hard work and yourself as a great individual.♡
I wanted to say that I went to the link for Cheslyn and they had raised the money so funding was no longer an option. While there I read such beautiful comments from subscribers of this channel. This case was horrific but the empathy your audience has shown is a true testament to the good channels like yours can really do. True crime channels are currently getting criticized but people forget the good that comes from this content. God Bless xx
Hey folks! As mentioned in this video Cheslin is currently working his way through his law degree. There is an active fundraiser if you'd like to help him through his studies. I've never interacted with Cheslin and no pressure, but it would be incredible for us to help restore his faith in the goodness of humanity. The link can be found here - gogetfunding.com/help-cheslin-marsh-get-his-law-degree/
The campaign is led by a journalist who had the opportunity to interview Cheslin and create an excellent documentary based on the events of May 27th.
You can also help the Hannah Cornelius Foundation, which supports children and youth who are vulnerable to violence here. HCF is registered and confirmed to be a non-profit organisation - hcfoundation.org.za/
Edit: Cheslin's fundraiser has reached its target! You folks are incredible!! ✨
just poured a coffee and refreshed youtube and the first video i saw was this one. what better way to sip coffee than a Coffeehouse Crime video?
Thanks as always for the wonderful content, you’ve quickly become one of my favorite UA-camrs.
I do remember this horrifying case. Hannah, such a sweet compassionate young woman, just starting her life, Didn't deserve this!! I'm so glad that there was a survivor to help bring this EVIL TO JUSTICE!! Condolences HANNAH!!💔🙏🏾💔 ((You've done an OUTSTANDING job on this case!! CONGRATULATIONS to you COFFEEHOUSE CRIME continued success))👍🏾
Bare in mind, the fundraiser for Cheslin is for $1500 USD. If even everyone who videos donated just $1 the target would be reached in hours.
Thank you for covering more cases from South Africa. We don't get much coverage and I feel it's good the world knows about the heinous crimes that happen here.
I wish all banks, everywhere on earth, had an emergency ‘fake password’ policy, a password that would allow the person to withdraw money, but would immediately alert police that the card has been stolen. If authorities act fast enough to track the perpetrators, even lives might be saved.
Brilliant idea
This is Gold! If only the right people would see this.
The only thing is, once they are aware this exists, they will work around it . It’s like people now knowing there are cameras at cash points and therefore thieves wear hats or cover their faces .
Or people now turning their mobile phones off because they realise they can now be tracked by phone masts.
There was a time when people didn’t realise fingerprints could identify them, now they always wear gloves.
I feel like something like this needs to be implemented but not publicised.
this will 100% work even if people found out about it. just like how bartenders have a code drink for people who are uncomfortable with their dates
Fantastic idea!
They did everything right.. making sure eachother would get to their destination, that’s true friendship. This is a horrific case :(
Except they didn't have the doors locked. Never sit in a vehicle with the doors unlocked no matter where or time of the day.
@@secondact7151 I thought most car doors locked automatically after driven for a few seconds, mine do, but perhaps it is not all makes of cars?
@@_Y.Not_ that’s newer cars. Hannah’s car looks like an older generation. It most likely didn’t have the auto lock feature.
Edit: and if it did, it most likely wasn’t working.
No they did everything wrong
Why sit in dangerous area ?
What was the point of walking each other?
@@secondact7151 Especially when you're in a country full of nickels.
'They crushed her head with a 40 kilogram rock.'
Imagine how empty you have to be inside in order to be able to do something like this.
Not an ounce of humanity left in them.
Must be a sign of the times...
Animals
💔😭
These are devils
These perpetrators should be fed to a pack of hungry wolves
Wish I could tell Cheslin how much I appreciate him getting up and calling for help. He´s a fighter. What a great guy.
And not running away. My mom had one of those cars, and if I was bundled into that boot with those scumbags, I would easily kick out the rear window and run like the wind. Maybe he stuck around for her sake.
@@gerhardvaneeden5615I think Cheslin stuck around for Hannah, too. He knew she was their target since she remained in the front seat with them, which is often the case when women are abducted. Truly tragic all around.
@@LaNoturna We should all be so lucky to have a friend like him, who would literally risk his life for his friend
Simping can truly make miracles. Not kidding at all.
@@LaNoturna
Very true.
She should have just gone inside after he dropped her off. His purpose for doing so was solely to ensure she reached home safely.
She undid that by driving him home, not understanding that, in a vehicle or not, she would still have ended up a lone female on those streets late at night.
Wisdom is the principal thing.
Hannah's poor father..... He has no wife to help console him (as I'm certain he'd have consoled her as well) He has to answer his son's child-like misunderstanding of the whereabouts of his mother & sister. I can't begin to understand his pain 😢
For real!
No human could inflict that kind of pain and smile. I wonder what drives such evil and apathy, this was horrible.
Rest in peace and my heart goes out to the father, family, and friends :(
liberal CRITICAL RACE THEORY says all white people are innately racist & therefore Hannah got what she deserved (for 300 years of black oppression)
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@@Harpotos I could say the same
His son is autistic to a degree where he doesn't understands what happened ...so i doubt it its even worse when you're alone in pain ..I cannot imagine
Her poor father not only losing his beautiful little girl but also his wife, I hope he and his son find happiness again
the father sadly died of cancer at the end of 2022. that poor boy is left all alone
@@greatleapforwards Poor kid.
@@greatleapforwardsoh no😢
@@greatleapforwards Wouldn't be surprised if the cancer was brought on by stress, poor guy. R.I.P to a lovely family.
@@silverdale3207 Absolutely-many parents that lose children get cancer and pass from it due to stress. Look into the story of Jimmy Rice from Florida. He was a 9 year old boy abducted, assaulted, and killed by a man-and the mother passed away from cancer a few years later. Then his sister committed suicide at 31 years old. His father is left alone, never to remarry or have more kids. These murderers ruin entire families-not just the victim they kill. Beautiful families forever broken.
The fact that Hannah's mother commited suicide makes this story more tragic. So sad
A Mothers love is endless. I know I'm 1
I hope she’s reunited with her daughter now, able to comfort her
I don't think her death counted as suicide - those men killed that poor woman 😔
and also the most distressing one her brother still asks when she’s coming home
I felt this specifically because my mom would probably take that route if something like that happened to me. Truly horrific.
Her mom died because she probably couldn't stop thinking about Hannah's last hours. This is truly the saddest story
😢😢😢😢
& she just wanted to be with her again, that’s totally understandable. Very tragic
This story is sad but was preventable.
He dropped her home to ensure she would be safe. Insisting on driving back was not wise.
@@Trini2dbone868striking amount of empathy. i hope if your child is unalived in a vile way like this that you have the same nonchalance
@@user-ci7cy6bq3b hey, we’re dealing with life lessons here. Let’s not be a snowflake 😏🙄
Something you didn’t mention is that one of the attackers literally wore the jacket that they stole from Cheslin in court
and they all had the audacity to plead not guilty
Omg are you serious!!!?! The depravity !
I agree with you Earfquake, you made me aware of how these SYCHOUS are truly just shameless pieces of huge 💩💩💩
Can you imagine..no evidence needed after that.
😳 omg
Jeez dark😳🥲
They are laughing and smiling on the stand. I will never understand that level of stupidity. Now instead of a hard working clever girl who would have become a useful part of society, we have four smiling idiots that we have to feed and cloth in jail. These crimes are not only about the families, the ripple effect is unbelievable.
But that's how poorly our system is designed. I don't understand how there isn't a better way.
I mean, there is. We could just execute people like this, who aren't worth the oxygen they breathe. But people who aren't involved got feelings and opinions, and politicians can utilize that for greater stagnation.
It's bullshit. In a case like this, the only people who should have any fucking say over what happens with these people are the victims families, and if the victims families want an eye for an eye - kill those fucking trash bags.
And what's worse, is we pay for them to get an education and to profit off writing books and selling artwork while in prison. Prison should be like it was in the old days, chain gangs and 3 meals and a cot, not recreation and TV, exercise and storyline. Prisoners should not have more rights than the people they killed or maimed.
Why not punish them the same way? With death..
I wish the penalty, if found guilty for murder, is to be left in a room with the passings love one.
We kill em in the USA
I always believe the death sentence is needed for situations like this. I don’t know what could posses anyone to do this to innocent people. Just disgusting and senseless. It’s not shocking they continued their crime spree, they just didn’t care.
I completely agree. The justice system needs to make an example. The violence in South Africa especially against women is out of control
nah - i think these people should suffer and be tortured. Death penalty is too easy of a way out for them
Although I agree. I'd say life imprisonment is a death sentence. It's just a prolonged sentence. With the death sentence they do jail time and then eventually have a date set for their death. But with life, they have to live every single day with what they've done until their very last breath. In my opinion I think that is the best way for justice to be served. Why should they get a death sentence that causes no pain and then stops their suffering when they're the causes for pain and suffering from crimes they've committed. They didn't show signs of morals, humanity and mercy upon Hannah or Cheslin. So why should they get an easy death when they had to endure such pain in their by those men and take the life of one of them and leave the other for dead. Even Hannah's mother suffered in her end because of the actions of these men taking her little girl away.
But that's just my opinion. I guess everyone has their own view on justice and peace. All comes down to what the lasting families feel is right and what will bring them closure.
in cases like this I have to agree. Going by how little they seemed to care about what they'd done, there's no way any of those men deserve to live or have anything left to give to the world. At least make them do useful labour in prison so they're not just a waste of oxygen and space.
@@ragingredhead9555 if you want them to feel pain for what they did
Put them in permanent isolation
No books or any form of stimulation. After a year they will already be miserable and after 10 they might already be insane
Your brain rather have pain then no stimulation
This case has haunted me ever since. There is now another victim of this horrendous story Willem, Hannah' s Father recently died of cancer leaving her brother behind without family. Thank you for covering this story, sadly South Africa is a very violent country and rarely is there justice. In fact most often perpetrators are released on bail. There are way too many Hannahs and Uyinenes.
If so, these aholes will be released too I'm sure. That's why they were laughing because they knew that killing whites is no big deal.
Is there a fund for Hannah’s youngest brother?
@@Handle8844he is rich now, inherited all the family's wealth.
The murderers smiling and laughing during their trial is disgusting =( Wishing nothing but the best for Hannah's father, brother, and Cheslin
just like the Turd
Hi Coffee House Crime. These guys should get the death penalty in my opinion. This just goes to show how their country is obviously corrupt or else they would've gotten that if they have it. RIP Hannah and also RIP to your Mom too. Adrian thanks so much for explaining these cases so everyone can understand them without being confused. Hope you are having a fabulous and peaceful evening, peace and joyful times to you, love, Janine Smiley😀🙂🤩😍😎🍦🍨🍧🍫🎂🍰🥧👜🛍✌👍💅🇬🇧🇺🇸🆒️⛾🍯☕🍩☕🍪
@gb_baker What do you mean by "burn the coal, pay the toll"??🤔
@@janinemccartha1811 lol yeah America is the most corrupt country in the world
@@hus390
That fool was just trying to make excuses for those sadistic murderers’ inexcusable and evil deeds.
The way these men were smiling in court makes my blood boil.
As a Texan I want to see their faces when they're hanging from their necks.
@@potato6436 Why would you? Do you recognize yourself in their dull, ugly and stupid faces..?
Potato, We'd have room in the boat and an inner tube for you to ride as well boy.
@@JohnSmith-XYZ Peaceful? You’re delusional.
@@DevletGM Exactly!! I’ve always heard bad stuff about this disgusting place!
Sadly for Hannah and Cheslin, even if Cheslin had given them the correct PIN, the events of the night likely would have gone the same way. That they were laughing during the trial shows that they have zero regard for anyone but themselves - they would have killed Hannah and Cheslin anyway just to silence any witnesses.
Agreed
Then why did they let the other woman go?
I Think So Too. 😕
@@azazello1784 Hannah wasn't the one who denied to give them anything and she died regardless. You're trying to apply logic to sociopathic murderers who do whatever they want on a whim. Who knows.
Pure evil psychopaths
I think in cases like this an eye for an eye is a more apropiate punishment. The right measure here would be either the death penalty on the electric chair, or life in prison with either daily torture or extensive fizical labor. Those people have nothing in common with what it means to be human, they are monsters without any remorse and they deserve to be treated as such.
Agreed - they should have been executed within the year.
No they angry cuz slavery and she white so it's ok
So well said!
10000 percent agree. human rights should not be applicable on these Demons and the others
I’d have a tough time not seeking revenge if I was to hand a family member taken in this way.
It's nauseating to think, that Hannah's last images were those repulsive faces. Thank you for your peaceful energies, in these disturbing cases.
The one guy resembles Mike tyson
their faces infuriates me. I wish some rich person pays some inmates or COs to make their lives a living hell
This one really got me man...okay just take their car then...just rob them and let them go....why do they have to kill them like this. So enraging man.
Seeing them laugh and smile was so disgusting!
liberal CRITICAL RACE THEORY says all white people are innately racist & therefore Hannah got what she deserved (for 300 years of black oppression)
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I've heard of this case before. My heart broke into pieces at what Hannah went through. The audacity of these arseholes having no remorse and laughing at the trial incenses me.
Wish those animals nothing but hell.
Certainly one of the toughest I've ever covered. I recorded this about two weeks ago and the story still haunts me.
They're truly psychopaths
You know they're getting everything they deserve in a South African prison. Say what you will about the faults of the prison system, but cases like this make me glad that "convict justice" exists. Here's hoping that every moment incarcerated is a living nightmare for them.
@@CoffeehouseCrime hope you heal my friend don't let the work destroy your soul and peace of mind sometimesni just need to check out for a while and remember there is some real good in the world too. Mostly animal videos.
The fact that her brother still asks about her and he doesn’t understand omg that is beyond heartbreaking 😪😪 he probably asks about his mom all the time too. That poor dad I can’t imagine.
I feel extremely sorry for the father and the brother too. As for the mother, what an extremely selfish thing to do. Sure she was hurting but did she not think to herself the hurt that she'd cause her husband and son when she committed suicide? No, she only thought about herself.
@@jimmyavpi calling someone committing suicide selfish is always so disgusting and disrespectful. you obviously come from a place of no understanding whatsoever of what it is to actually live with so much pain that would lead you to that path. i hope you never experience it, but you should really try to be more understanding when it comes to something as horrible as suicide, and no it is not selfish, it's much more complex and sad.
@@jimmyavpi please do not judge someone who felt so hopeless they walked into an ocean to die. Pain doesn't just come in physical form. Please be more careful with your words. If you are, however, someone who has been affected by suicide personally I would urge you to think more deeply and empathetically on it and I hope you find peace.
@@edelleaa It's completely selfish, what about her husband and son? What about the pain they were already living with and then the extra pain caused by her selfish actions? There is nothing complex about being selfish, she thought about herself and couldn't a damn about her husband and CHILD!!! A child SHE brought into this world.
@@nrvouspotatoe1519 See above comment..
The comment you made towards the end about her brother still asking when she is coming home legit made me cry its so tragic that her life was cut so short especially when she clearly had so much good to give to the world
There is a bright side. He survived. His survival lead to getting them off the street. This certainly would not have been their first murder.
They are probably out on the streets already. Such is the justice system in our beloved country.
@@heathervarcoe6894 If they’re not out in the streets.... They’re more just like them roaming the streets... doing evil! (It will never end).
@@heathervarcoe6894 Why do you make assumptions? They are not out, they are serving their time. What benefit does your negative comment have.
The damage is done. Your comment is self serving.
Nor their last.
Try telling that to the father
OMG! Adrian - I AM SO PROUD! I always knew you and the people that watch this channel were the best. Cheslin's campaign had been up for 20 days and wasn't even halfway to the goal. In less than 6 hours of you posting this video - it is 105% funded... and still going strong! It still has just over 11 days to go! Congrats to everyone on here! There are still great people out here who care. So often the sadness and horror of these stories are the only things we see, and the shadows of the evil monsters who lurk among us. Thanks to everyone here, this is a shining example of the power of people refusing to to let the darkness win, and adding light back into to the world. Keep donating everyone! I am sure he likely still has medical bills and therapy (past, present, and future). Let's all help make Cheslin's life while he is in school - the easiest, and worry free as it can be. He will definitely need books, clothes, food, --->>> and COFFEE to get him through.
I am South African from Cape Town. Sadly, crimes like this are never-ending. I myself had a very bad experience, being tied up and my home ransacked. Things could have been far worse if a person upstairs never heard voices and called someone. This is such a tragic story.
I hope you are able to recover from such a devastating experience.
Sounds like you all are in need of a Second Amendment.
Geez! How terrible, sounds like you have your share of the same amount of thugs we have here in the US. Rather than functioning with society, earning a decent living these despicable parasites think they can just help themselves to other persons things. Their ugly smiles disgusted me.
@@kevincmiles-cn6un we can own guns in South Africa.
Thankfully you're ok. So scary. I could never imagine myself living in such unsafe place. Humans are monsters.
How 😭 I feel for Hannah and her family. Her mom who couldn't get over her sorrow. My prayers for her and her mother. May God bless them abundantly in heaven.
There should be a mandatory death sentence for senseless crimes like this
Like death sentence will change anything. In fact it will incentivize more people to commit crime if they know they can go easily.
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 The death sentence isn't that easy. They have to wait years, decades to die. Plus, these people never change, they are sick in the head. Why should taxpayers feed them, pay for their education?
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 lol what? How will the threat of death incentivize people to commit more violent crimes/murders?
death sentences are proven to not stop crimals from doing this messed up shit & also south africa has some of the worse prisons on the world they basically fkd
Disagree, we need to bring back medieval style torture for these kind of crimes, and then execute them
Cheslin's fund raiser is 120% funded, and lots of mentions of support and Coffeehouse Crime from donors its just wonderful. As an avid fan of true crime I love that this community above all honors victims and will go to extra mile to do this where we can
It makes me so happy and proud!
Awesome!!! May he heal as much as possible.
@@CoffeehouseCrime Can you please do a case on Sanda Dia from Belgium. He’s black student who had died of severe hazing by 17 rich white students whose parents are judges, lawyers etc. They called him a N-word, and did worse things to him and then, cleaned up everything like nothing happened.
All those types of people should be erased. From the planet.
@@Bailemos888 wish him good health
You can't change my mind about the Death Penalty, some people just deserve that, especially cases like this.
R.I.P Hannah Cornelius, you never deserved what happened to you
Nah these people dont deserve to have an easy way out,they deserve to be tortured in the worst way possible and just before they die bring them back to life and do it all over again and again and again.
I absolutely agree. You often hear people say that they'll suffer in prison and thats worse but thats just not true. Most people that go to prison for long periods of time settle into life in prison just fine, living a fairly normal life other than not being able to leave. They develop relationships, have fun and still get to feel the love of their family. The death penalty is absolutely what someone deserves in cases like this. They don't deserve to live a long life breathing air even laughing and having one more good day. With regular hardworking people supporting them for the rest of their lives never having to worry about where they'll get their next meal, or hot shower or warm bed...
Yes, this is why the death penalty exists.
The reason why people believe the death penalty is unjust is because of the simple fact that innocent people get sentenced to death sometimes. It's just a fact that comes with a flawed system. In order to justly kill bad people, you statistically will have to kill some innocent, and not everyone is okay with that.
@@Lonesome__Dove Also, we shouldn't lower ourselves to the same level of these terrible people by making ourselves murderers.
So sad for Hannah and Cheslin. I'm sure Cheslin will have terrible dreams and survivors guilt. Stay strong Cheslin and I feel so sad for Hannah's family.
The police are equally corrupt & incompetent
He could care less, he got her raped and killed,,so don't feel sorry for him, his guilt isn't surviors, she shouldn't have been around blacks.
You forgot to say that Hannah‘s father also resigned from being a magistrate for not believing that he worked many yrs to judge criminals and the worst crime was committed to his own daughter.Quite a sad case
liberal CRITICAL RACE THEORY says all white people are innately racist & therefore The dad got what he deserved (for 300 years of black oppression)
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So so sad
How many natives did he summon to the gallows? Yep, its karma, too bad.
You're sick minded@@Sheesh-b7m
The fact that there was an image shown of the 4 killers sitting in court with one smiling and another with a smirk makes me ill. Death penality is absolutely warranted in cases like this.
Made me ill too. His horrible yellow teeth grinning. Worse than animals from the gutter of evil. I would push a button that released 4 huge rocks onto there heads in a second.
apes
@@pianorelaxingmusics don't insult apes like that, these wastes of humanity are lower than animals
Yes. In my country this sort of crimes will end w death by hanging.
I think because of our harsh punishments, homicides is relatively uncommon.
@@alyahamzah1952 exactly, harsher punishments are necessary. You steal, you should lose a limb, you rape, bye genitals etc
"The very rock used to kill Hannah was brought in as evidence"
Damn, that's one huge rock. Looks more like a boulder. It must have taken at least two of them just to lift it. The fact that they exerted that much effort to carry out a murder makes their actions even more horrific. What a shame SA doesn't have the death penalty.
The rock was shocking to see. This case is so sad.
We used to have it. I doubt they will ever bring it back. 🇿🇦
Hopefully other prisoners will carry out the penalty.
Agree, scumbags like them should be removed from society for good.
In Schweinfurt, GE, I had investigated the murder of a young lady by a soldier. During the trial, the prosecution not only presented the ballpine but the victim's skull showing all the fractures the victim had suffered. The only way the scumbag is getting out of Leavenworth is in a pine box.
So sad that Hannah and Cheslin tried so hard to look out for each other's safety, only to end up in such a terrible situation.
I was living in Stellenbosch and going to the university when this happened and it still haunts me. The year after these events, when I started going to a different campus, my daily commute would take me past the paintball grounds and I would just not be able to get my mind off of the horrific things these men did. Thank you for bringing life to this case and to Hannah. May she rest in peace
Wow!! The impact is huge. How painful it must be to all of you!🤦🏾♂️😢 Stay safe, and clean the streets of these criminals.
@@hus390 I never knew her personally and yet this video still really hit home for me as this whole case always does, I can only imagine how painful it must have been and still is for her loved ones. I hate having to live in constant suspicion of strangers and having to be aware of my surroundings 24/7 but unfortunately not doing so can really have some tragic consequences.
not surprising south africa black attack white like its a tournament but white guilt refuse to admit they are targeted
Stay safe and trust your gut.
@@ramch. I know that's Right!
I knew Hannah well, she was a friend of mine and someone within our friend group. I was so shocked to see this video, I haven't even started watching and I don't think I can. It changed all of us in such a large way and it really shocked our entire community. We tried everything we could, there wasn't a single person that I knew not calling for those who did this to not be tortured for the rest of their life. They'll never be 'punished' enough. That's life in Cape Town, it shouldn't be, but it's a reality for most people. This is just the most particularly brutal case in a long time.
It wasn't about any of us except for her. I hope she (and her mom) are doing better wherever they are now, or at least in some peace.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you and your friends are going thru from this. These "men" (if you can call them that) are pure evil.
Are you for real? I can’t wrap my head around such hatefulness, bigotry, and ignorance being expressed so matter of factly in this day and age when everyone should know better. Believing in and spreading your backward ideas is just the kind of shit that perpetuates violence and hate to continue happening.
I'm so sorry for your loss, I don't think you need to watch the video, it might just open old wounds. But I can at least tell you that he did a very good job in covering her story and did it with a lot of respect.
Take care of yourself
she was gang raped over n over
I am heartbroken at this tradegy. I live in Cape Town South Africa. I wish Cheslin all the best with his studies and career in law. Evil does not and should never win. Hannah's father, brother and all who loved her are in my prayers and thoughts, what a privilege you had to have known this amazing angel!
Her whole family is dead now except for her brother, who is now alone. Her mother killed herself as the video said, and I read that her father died of cancer in late 2022.
I was one of the people that requested this. Thank you so much for this perspective of Hanna’s story. This was heartbreaking to say the least. Thank you for the respect in the way you told this story ❤
Ah Adrian gave me a like, and now it’s gone 🥺Anyway, thank you for the engagement 🫶🏾
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Sometimes the like function glitches, thanks UA-cam! Have another one! 😁
Awesome!!! Thats what I was thinking too (:
hopefully anti white violence in south africa receives more attention. the bantu black majority there is quite hostile to the white minority
Sad truth is that this happens way too often here in South Africa. The death penalty is needed.
vasigan moodley, did South Africa ever had the death penalty? Couldn't voters demand that your politicians bring the death penalty to South Africa?
What these diabolical monsters had done to Cheslin, Hannah, the other victims, and Hannahs' mom is truly horrendous!!
yeah it sounds like a real shithole over there
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@@crocop6873 "Right leg hospital, left leg cemetery." Couldn't help myself.
Plaasmoorde : The Ki77ing Fields, documentary of SA (Katie Hopkins) and Farmlands (with Lauren Southern)....eye opening documentaries. Atrocities appallingly swept under the rug by media seem to be a common theme. Respect from NZ.
R.I.P to Hanna & her mother. Deepest condolences to the families. Hope and pray that everyone involved heal as much as possible.
The most tragic thing about this story to me is that it likely never would've happened had Hannah not insisted on driving Cheslin back home. But how could she have ever known that? She literally did it with the intent of preventing this exact situation.
The amount of violence in South Africa is terrifying.
48 men per day are murdered.
@大哥哥Eric Small peepee chingy lol
That’s worldwide, fam.
@大哥哥Eric Poor or not these thugs did not have to KILL!! So NO I don't accept its because of poverty. The return of the death penalty is needed to be reinstated in South Africa for scrum like these less than human garbage In MY OPINION
@大哥哥Eric It's more than just poverty. It's a culture of much violence. I wish it wasn't like that. The thought of children growing up in that environment is heartbreaking.
I really do love how you give us a bit of insight into the places themselves. I know next to nothing about the country of South Africa, but it's always nice to hear some information about it and what it's like. And it especially helps to understand the environment each person in these cases grew up in and were accustomed to. It really just completes the whole picture for every case you cover. May Hannah and her mother rest peacefully.
Thank you!!
He really makes south Africa sound great. Not the one i live in and know. I want to live in that south Africa not the real one. We have more farmers killed in a day than cars getting hijacked. Its like a sport
I like this as well.👍
Adrian is excellent at speaking about places
That's one of my favorite things about this channel
As someone who briefly knew Hannah in primary school, I really appreciate you taking the time to ensure accuracy of details and pay tribute to her character. Although I knew her so briefly and so many years ago, her kindness had a profound impact on me -- she really was a cut above the rest and when I heard about what happened to her, it just seemed as though she was the absolute last person to ever deserve such a horrific experience and death (not that anyone deserves it). Thank you for telling her story with such empathy.
That's so sad that someone like her is taken....yet people like Putin and trump get to carry on living destroying this world....
Hanna is up there with angels now....she was one down here on Earth as well...May she RIP💖
Ironically, racism = survival.
@@gailwaters814
How is that ironic....your statement makes absolutely no sense...GAL...
@@leanneb9529 Sorry for the confusion. I'm talking about societies that protect themselves by not importing these murderers.
Yes I can't get this poor girl out my mind felt like I knew her just so terrible
Never allow yourself to be bound and taken to a second location. Second locations are always much worse for victims. Fight back immediately with your whole might to avoid being kidnapped and taken to another location.
Said like it was easily done
v right
depends on your odds...4+ armed men vs you and a small girl while both of you already have sharp tools at their throat..unless you are really effective in selfdefence I would assume you have better chances by submission...atleast until you are in a better position...
“Allow” ?
True but sadly many will let fear take control. Fighting as your life depends on it when they try to take you somewhere else or bound you is the best option you got becuase most end up dead if taken away.
Man, Cheslin is the type of friend I tried to be when I was in college. I'm sure he's imagined an alternate universe where he just rode home on his skateboard. But Hanna was also equally as good a friend and insisted on driving him. Two charitable people in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those thugs should've gotten the death penalty. Rest in peace to Hannah and her mother.
They were not in the wrong place in the wrong time. They were exactly where they were supposed to be. It was the evil men who did this to them.
its so fucked up when people have to get used to the felling of "nowhere safe" in some places. Theres never a good time. The streets in some countries are ALWAYS dangerous. And the sad thing is most victims comply thinking they might get spared. This is why many are buying guns and training in this day and age. Because it might be the only way you can actually feel a bit safer than empty handed.
@@anitachandra2030 They killers were in 'the wrong place at wrong time,' not the people who were minding their own business.
They really had eachother's backs and they did everything right. This really goes to show that even when you take all the correct safety precautions, awful things can still happen. RIP Hannah. Both Hannah and Cheslin were really caring and compassionate friends.
why the hell they out so late and in south africa thats a invitation to get murder especially she is white
The most obvious safety precaution they missed is to lock the car doors. So no, they didn't do everything right.
They needed to be far more cautious. Not to sit around in the car talking. To be aware of who is lurking. Especially not to ever go out drinking in a place like SA. Especially such a beautiful girl I don't think should live in such a country.
The perpetrators need to be punished in ways that fit the crime. It's a cruel and unusual crime which needs a cruel and unusual punishment.
@@paulievespucci6867 also giving a fake password is the first instinct, but it is clearly something you shouldnt do when you and your friend are under control from 4 criminals. My country is very danerous and one thing is clear to me: my life is not worth whatever I have in my wallet, Never. specially when i´m not the only person been robed.
@@mateovasquezfranco3025 Yeah, there was no point in giving a fake password in any case. Even if your captors weren't murderous psychos, they'll just ask again for your password but this time with more violence.
My home town her dad is an amazing man and has poured his grief into helping the community as a retired much respected magistrate . He lost his daughter and his wife months apart. Thankyou for covering this xxxx so tragic no one is safe night time in South Africa. Sadly these evil people are probably thriving in this jail system where the inmates run the jail houses on weekends not the people that are supposed to be in charge.
This maybe the case.. but at least they had their freedom taken away from them. They will NEVER be allowed out of prison, they will die in that prison! What they did to that beautiful girl and that young intelligent guy is sickening beyond any level. And then the audacity to smile and laugh during their trial 🤬🙄 evil at it’s finest.
if he is a magistrate, he should know some people that could kill those demons.
What happened to his wife?
The 3 murderers deserve to be hanged. Why waste taxpayers' money on them?
The wifes body was found washed up on Scarborough Beach after supposedly going for her daily swim.
My heart breaks for Cheslin and the horrible situation these cruel people put him in. I hope he manages to put all this behind him and live a happy, full life.
RIP Hannah ❤
Looking at them sitting there laughing and smiling in court is absolutely gut wrenching… they stole the lives of a daughter and her mother .. violently trying to murder cheslin and so much more. I’ll never understand how someone could ever do this … and just heartbroken for her family and cheslin and his family
I think just for the way they acted in court, on top of killing Hannah and attempting to kill Cheslin, they deserve the death penalty for not showing one ounce of remorse. Disgusting human beings.
I dont think they know anything but that way of living im sure they did this to many girls before but they got caught now , they are behind in evolution, animals,
The racist lefty died happy
No one gets away with murder. No justice system can get true justice for the victims and their families. Because, they can only take the life of the murder but they can not give the life of the victim back. But the source of life can.
A life for a life ... when someone murders another person they will lose out on everlasting life. The creator can give life back to the victim so they can pursue everlasting life. The murderer looses out on that hope. Once he dies he dies forever.
They should get the plastic bag treatment. Simple put a plastic over their heads & seal it. Their hands tied of course so that they can't move. Then they can smile all they want. Aka John Wick in one of his movies.
Adrian, you’ve made Coffee House Crime so much more than the usual horrific telling of the bad against the innocent. You’ve presented and given every story a caress of importance to the victim. I appreciate the emotion you radiate as a storyteller.
Sociopathy at it's worst.
why is it everyone that is the victim is "wonderful and compassionate and loving and intelligent and beautiful". Am i to believe that not one of these people are kind of a d1ck sometimes? maybe a little selfish and self centered? i call BS on the "noble victim" narrative; though i am aware they dont(mostly or at all) deserve to be murdered.
Psychopathy.
@gb_baker When around blax, never relax
And racism
Psychopathy? This happens all the time in SA, it's just racism. Look into the farm murders.
It's stories like this that remind me why I (and thousands of others) left South Africa. Born and raised there, it just started feeling less and less safe to live there.
I also want to mention that I never heard about this story in the news and it wasn't that long ago but that is just how it goes. I'm more surprised by the 4 demons being caught and actually prosecutted. That in itself is a miracle.
Yeah, young , attractive woman with blonde hair in Africa is kinda red flag already.
@@coops1992 Are you dumb?
@@coops1992 it really isn’t especially in South Africa it is very racially diverse..
We left SA too and settled in uK. Enough is enough.
@@swiftie_2247 It’s mostly black.
Thank you for covering another case from South Africa 🇿🇦 We love your channel and our hearts are still sore for Hannah. Rest in peace beautiful.
i live in durban south africa and had a similar experience. was hijacked and in the boot for about 6 hours - usually people suffocate because there is no air in a boot when the car doesnt move. was taken to a forest in the middle of nowhere - where i was certain i would be shot and left for dead. Also asked for pin numbers - I'll never forget this one sentence "be very careful how you answer this question or it will be your last. I had accepted I was gonna die at some point in that evening. was surreal to survive. the police said that I was lucky to survive that - i credit my ability to somehow remain calm - even tho i am highly claustrophobic and being in a boot was initially my greatest fear. people here too often think money or their car or something else is more valuable than their lives. too many lose this battle almost every single day here. we live like prisoners mostly. I was one of the lucky ones - most are not :(
Time to move
@@fernfreeman1729 lol its exactly what I've been working towards every day since the pandemic. especially after a couple floods and a week long riot that ravaged the city i live in. UA-cam Durban riots - its madness. outside my house - felt like end of the world. its also not very easy trying to do this from here unfortunately. this country has gotten and is getting progressively worse. we literally at breaking point of total collapse -its imminent i think
Please migrate
@@shaunramkelawon Dark days indeed. Just save up enough to get out. Whatever happens from there at least you will have your life
So sorry that happened to you, how awful! Amazing you survived, you should be proud of your resilience and how you handled the situation. Wishing you all the best for a bright future mate!
The level of care for the victims and their families and attention to detail in the research is why I keep coming back. You really do your homework and it shows. Thanks for another video. 😁
Thank you so much! 🙏
I absolutely love the way you always treat the victims in these cases with respect and highlight their achievements. Some other channels seem to make light of these situations for views and it's very touching to me that you give them the dignity they deserve.
I’m 13 minutes in, and I’m crying. Hannah and Cheslin looking after each other like that only to be targeted in such a scary crime is horrific. I’m so disgusted by every single detail. My heart goes out to Cheslin and Hannah’s loved ones. May she rest in peace 😔
this is so heartbreaking story. Poor darling Hannah....... she did not deserve to die. What a horrible people who killed her, no empathy, like evil zombies. This story made me cry, it is so sad and trully horrific. Sending much love to Hannah's family, they must be so affected by her death. And dear Hannah, we remember you, we know your name, we know your story, dear angel, rest in peace 🕊
If anything makes me question my stance on the death penalty, it’s cases like this. It’s hard to thank you for covering these stories, but it’s better they’re brought to light than left unknown.
Yep. Any case like this where there is absolutely no doubt the correct people are caught should be immediate death for the three actual murderers. Life for the other guy.
I’ve always thought that being against the death penalty is through a misguided sense of morality. In some cases it’s the right thing to do.
I don't ever want to see the death penalty removed. Sense of morality be damned. Where was their sense of morality when they were bashing innocent peoples head open, and raping a girl. No, no compassion for them. You can't rehab everyone, and let's not keep wasting the tax payer dol feeding and bunking these scum until retirement.
@@bushmonster1702 For these guys, it's the only right thing to do. The nordic system of putting them in nice rooms, giving them education, etc is too good for these killers.
absolutely. they'll burn in hell too.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. It hit me very hard. She was so kind a person that she wanted to protect her friend, and it got her killed... senseless, just senseless evil.
Can imagine Cheslin carries some serious unwarranted guilt about accepting the ride home though it was pretty much insisted. Horrible case. Good for him for facing them at trial, hope it gave him a semblance of closure.
How can it?
True, we need to teach our children because they were very naive to be that time of the morning at a isolated place basically not being aware of their surroundings. With a locked car and closed windows she could have driven away.
This is a tragedy. Rip to her.
Terrifying fact: As a South African, I have to unfortunately say that cases like these are reported on almost every week, it's fearful how I personally am starting to become desensitised to the level of violence committed to both Hanna and Chelsin. All I can hope for is that the families can find healing in knowing that the perpetrators were caught and that Hanna and her mother can rest easy✨🕊
As your next door neighbour (Botswana), I feel for you guys. As I remarked in a comment similar to yours, I just can't comprehend how SA doesn't have the death penalty. Evil this depraved simply can't be allowed to exist. And when the evidence is as airtight as this, it seems straight forward. I don't know if it's because of the proximity, but this case broke me. People shouldn't just be able to destroy lives like this and continue to breathe.
@@TRUEbASNER there are a lot of factors that effect how our constitution is structured; specifically dealing with the recent past of Apartheid. In essence we believe in the preservation of "all lives"; even those who committed horrific crimes against people of colour were encouraged to come forward and apologise to be left unpunished. All these decision were made to avoid civil war. It's clearly not the best solution to things, but I think we fear the destabilisation of the country rather than facing the issues head on.
@@Kholmi.28So apartheid kept Whites safe? Got it. No wonder it was instituted in the first place?
I worked with a guy whose daughter studied with Hannah... according to everyone, Hannah was a beautiful soul. This case is horrifyingly heart-breaking.
RIP sweet Hannah. There are no answers or consolement to cases like this one.
Hannah was aracetraitor, sadly. She datedcolouredguys. That means that even before she was murdered, she was already dead to her European race, since she would most likely have produced mixedraceafrican lookingoffspring one day, instead of European kids. It breaks my heart that even Afrikaners have now been successfully brainwashed into interracialdating and erasing their ownrace by mixing out. Goes to show the dangers of putting a white girl in a very progressive, mixedrace school.
That being said, Hannah's death is horrible. That is no way for a person to leave this world. Even if she wasatraitor, no one deserves that kind of end.
The line about her brother still asking for her because he doesn't understand what happened really got me. And that poor man lost his mom too, so he probably doesn't understand where she is either.
and his dad has also since passed away
@@loganbigmo that's horrible, that poor guy!
@@annegrey3780why you guys making fun of him?
South African here. Just want to say thank you for the coverage. Also. This happens to many woman and children in SA daily and nothing seems to change. Something has to change.
I’d start by executing criminals publicly
This story hit home when it happened here as I live only 40 minutes away from Stellenbosch. So scary, it sat with me for weeks after as it was such a big story here. And bawled my eyes out during this whole video😥. But thank you for covering this story so well Adrian. ❤️
The shit thing is, there is still some much crimes, and some much worse, in our Country 😔😔. I wish he would do the Allison story, horrific as fuck, but prove that not everyone can be broken, and the resolve of an amazing woman.
@@jansienorval1563 Allison story? Please tell me more so I can find it online.
@@megansulter9804 Alison Botha
@@jansienorval1563 Apartheid has taken its toll on SAfrica.
@@memewithinameme35 yea... now instead of law and order and the highest standard of living in all of sub Sahara Africa.... now it's utter chaos, corruption, crime and poverty!
From skimming the fundraiser comments for Cheslin, it looks like a good 50%+ of donations came from people viewing this video. That is amazing to see the level of compassion and empathy, and the attention being brought to these crimes.
This case shook us all. As a country. As a court community where I work. Listening to it broke my heart all over again.
Cheslin surviving and connecting with the cops sounds like something out of a movie. I wish that's all it was.
He is indeed a BAMF!
What's that?
It means badass motherfucker
As a South African im appreciative of the kind and professional way you approached this and not jumping to gore and sensationalism like some crime channels and honouring her life and death with dignity and decency. Thank you.
I have to say, Adrian, this story was so heartbreaking, but I am glad that through your coverage of this case, that the fundraiser for Cheslin has more than met its goal and is continuing to rise. You do such great work with your videos and it's amazing that you have built a community of such caring individuals. I'm sure Cheslin will have no problem getting his law degree now.
Cheslin, what a true hero! Wish the absolute best for everything to come in his life 🙏🏼
Rest in Peace, Hannah and Anna 🕊❤️
Life is cheap in South Africa. Respect to Cheslin for being so brave to testify those against those criminals. Rest in peace beautiful Hannah.
Apartheid has taken its toll on SAfrica.
@@JohnSmith-XYZ now u are talking crazy. Killing black people was prosperous and peaceful to racist like u maybe !! What an evil heart yerrr
@@memewithinameme35 SA was more peaceful before it was abolished... look at the country now... I'd rather have law and order than the lawlessness and chaos there now. Not to mention everyone was foing far better under it... higher standard of living, highest average wage in all of Africa, etc.
@@memewithinameme35 Yes and no. The underlying problem is diversity. Diverse socieites are discordant, and western European countries that are embracing diversity by accepting so many immigrants are going to destroy their own countries. The whites in South Africa created everything in the country. Before they were there, there was nothing. No roads, no bridges, no hospitals, no technology, nothing. So Apartheid didn''t take anything away from the local natives. It didn't steal anything from them. Not saying it was the best system, but the difference in advancement between the European settlers and the natives was so vast that it was reasonable for the Europeans to not just give everything they were making to the local natives. Anyway, any country is better off when homogeneous. Every ehtnic group and race should have their own country.
@@nickyblue4866 why are you here watching this dudes video, he probably wouldn’t agree with you.
When you said the actions of these "men" were "demonic" you echoed my thoughts that they were monsters. Their lack of anything human besides greed and lust were the worst examples of what our species can be. I hope SA has old fashioned dungeon like prisons!
Black people
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@uhjeff3651 What ?? Are you serious? Good men?? So,to attack people at night is what good boys do??
Miserable criminal.I must assume you are one of them..lol.
28 gang members are brutal n demonic, those tattoos said it all
@@uhjeff3651 Huh??? Please take them! We'll ship all of them to you. And for free.
Man, I'm not sure how you do this. These stories you tell, while important, are gut-wrenching. I'm a pretty stoic guy, but having to research these over and over would break me.
I appreciate how you highlight the victim more so than the criminals in your videos. Thank you for your sensitive telling of these cases.
My heart breaks over what those monsters did to Hannah, Cheslin and the other female victims. Hannah's Mother passing away and her brother asking when is Hannah going to come home is super sad. Cheslin in my opinion is a hero and a true friend. Thanks for another informative video Adrian!
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@uhjeff3651 I only just saw this comment. Wth? This is just a bad take. And I’m actually partly black myself so don’t ever use that with me again.
@@Khaotic450 "partly black"? Well if you were truly black, then you would be supportive of our brothers. Black lives matter. They are our future engineers and doctors
@@uhjeff3651 it’s quite clear that you’re the racist here trying to incite shit. Bugger off.
@@uhjeff3651 are you talking about the killers?
I watched another episode on her case and starting at her 16th birthday and on , she had family and friends give her gifts that she could donate to underprivileged children. Just a wonderful lady. Such nasty monsters to have taken someone like this from the world.
Please don't be racist. These "monsters" you are referring to are beautiful black people. They were good boys. They were going to be doctors and engineers. We need more of them in America and Europe. You should be ashamed for being this racist. They did nothing wrong. They were slaves in history and we must respect them
@@uhjeff3651 you are trolling right?
@@trojansasori3526 no. Black people suffered more than anyone in history. We should not be charged for anything.
@@uhjeff3651 it’s not a matter of being racist… I’ve not said a thing about color . They ARE monsters , they ARE trash! Look what they did to this lady and her friend . They had no respect , remorse even in court !
@@uhjeff3651 lmao nah,
you deserve to be enslvd if you agree with actions like he people in this video. Lmao! Get to work boah!
"It feels like we've been left with nothing but tragedy and violence" Adrian, Cheslin lived... against all odds he lived and is using his life (which he was already using well) to continue Hannah's work of helping others. Hannah continues to help people through the charity created in her name. This story horrific as it is spreads her name and the charity with it. The attackers got life, the other complicit got 22 years, no small feat in a South African prison. You have coved stories with much worse endings than this. Justice and life and help for others.
As a South African, I must have been living under a rock because this is the first time I'm hearing about this case. This is so heartbreaking.
understandable. but this was all over the Internet.
@@joe_lubinda I get that, I just didn't see it. 🤷🏽♀️
Agree 💯, I'm also in SA, truth is a lot get hidden from us.
black on white crime, RAMPANT and the least covered or discussed.
@@pianorelaxingmusics Oh brother. 🥱
Some stories are so heartbreaking, I wish I would never come across. This is one of them.
I genuinely strive to keep my negative thoughts and opinions about others to myself. But in this case, I truly hope those evil monsters rot and are tormented in hell endlessly for what they did to Hannah Cornelius, Cheslin Marsh, and Hannah's mother, Anna.
Rest in peace, Hannah and Anna Cornelius. May their memory be a blessing to all who knew and loved them.
This is just the reality of living in South Africa everyday. Violent crime is abundant and its very often accompanied by torture, physical and sexual.
@Cian A lot of white guys stabbing each other over there, I hear, judging by some of the stories from the channel They Will Kill You.
@L. L. couldn't the same argument be made for literally any place on earth ?
Such a great video man! As a man living in SA and studied in Stellenbosch, this one hits close to home. Terrible crimes happen on a daily in the country and the memory of these people who suffered needs to be held highly !
Keep up the great content 🙌🏾!
I’m a South African and this story still haunts me till today. May your beautiful soul rest in peace sweet Hannah❤️😭
the fact that her brother keeps asking when hannah will come home just breaks my heart.
My love and sympathy goes out to Hannah's family, and to Cheslin; I hope he has a bright future ahead of him. Thanks Adrian for being so respectful in your approach. You're a gem.
How can we even begin to imagine what hanna and cheslin REALLY went through guys, Im feeling completely sickening by this story, Thank you coffeehouse for holding back on the actual gruesome details of this sickness crime, *respect*,. RIP Hannah & Momma ,😔💕
Agreed and well said.🙏
I can't even imagine what Hanna had to go through. We really need to talk more about violence against women and girls.
what is there to talk about? do you think words would stop the four lunatics in the video? Take precautions, dont go into town in a high crime country like south africa or bad neighborhoods.
@@smokingowly3607 education can do a lot. In many places, women are seen as less then men and as a property. Teaching about gender equality is crucial.
@@katroamleft4721 its about teaching common western decency for sure. Individual agency, but here is the problem, the places which need this the most are either poor morally bankrupt outcasts, they wont listen, or it is a whole cultural thing in certain countries and they wont listen either. Again precautions, you may call for alot of courses and other useless enforcements here in the west but you are only preaching to the choir at that point. Outside the west, precautions is the way to go.
@@smokingowly3607 God you are racist. I was inclusing western countries as well. "common western decency".... Wow... Just wow. Such a bs. Get off your white Supremecy pedestal.
@@smokingowly3607 That's like saying don't live in America, where we have 1000x the firearm crimes, some on the mass scale, than any other country. People don't choose where they are born...
It's always so sad to hear about this story. This story hits close to home being a Stellenbosch student and was at the same residence during her time there. Hanna was truly a special and unique person. RIP Hanna
I remember this case. As a South African, we were shook and we were super vigilant afterwards. My parents were very hesitant to let me go out at night. This was shortly before I took a job abroad. My family was relieved that I’d be living in a safer country. Truly horrendous that our country is plagued by violence.
Your parents should teach you to be vigilant everywhere on planet . With the amount of illegal aliens immigrated to Western Europe & the US and police incompetence it’s not a huge difference among countries. There are very few places on earth where you can hang around in flip-flops during the night (like Monaco or Singapore) without being (at least) robbed.
I'm South African and I thank the Lord that at least my youngest daughter has left the country and is safe now. Her and I went through an armed robbery 4 months after my husband passed away, while my house was on the market. Police were called to the scene afterwards, they didn't even check for fingerprints. My daughter managed to track our phones and called the police. Four years later, still SILENCE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, like it never happened.
That's not your country, it's a colony, people from your country origin should get help to be back in their origin country, staying in africa is like staying front of the hell doors to wait your death. I watched a documentary about a woman living in south africa, her house have bars at all windows, she have some gun, security camera all the shit like a bank to be safe, and she like to live like that. Who like to live like that?
Any country is better than SA imo
@@leamissyoy I'm South African and it is terrible to live like this. It's a sad reality because as a child we played in the street and fun. Currently our children are being locked behind bars whilst actually they should be able to play outside and be children.
I can't even imagine what Cheslin goes through on a daily basis. Unfathomably violent trauma, being physically maimed, who undoubtedly struggles with survivors guilt. (my assumption based solely on this video and Cheslin's bravery told within it)
Survivors guilt is something I'm familiar with personally, but in nowhere near the same way.
*side note* It really hurt my heart when Cheslin was desperately looking for help, but was at first thought to be "just a gang member".
I understand South Africa is VASTLY different from where I am from... But, I imagine, *for me (cuz, you know .. my imagination) if anyone clearly hurt, covered in blood, talking about needing help.... was to show up at my door (at any time)
I wouldn't even hesitate. NOT EVEN CONJURING A SECOND THOUGHT. The world is terrifying, cruel, scary, and unfair. But, if we allowed that to chip away at our own humanity... I'd find that to be far more frightening.
No problem doing it if you live alone. If you have family your small act of kindness can spell big tragedy on your whole family living with you.and if it result in your demise it will be cruel to your friend and family. Best way will be call the authority directly. Communicate from behind the door and not open. Till you sure everything safe.
People know that people like you exist and will exploit that. There are women involved in gangs whose job is to bait people like yourself. Safest thing to do is keep your door closed and call police. It might save you and your families lives.
Be careful, my lady. We live in dangerous times. Be smart
In my country, you'd be a victim real soon with that mentality. Plenty of robbers and thieves use bait like this to catch people off guard.
Saying you wouldn’t hesitate is dishonest and pretty shitty. People when confronted with these situations act unreliably, don’t put down people for reacting poorly because the odds are you’d act just as badly as they would.
Great to see you covering another tragic story in South Africa. I followed this case and it was terrifying and shameful what Hanna and Cheslin had to endure.
I'm so sick of hearing stories like this... Amazing, selfless people who could literally change the world for the better being taken in the most brutal and evil ways 😞 But thank you for sharing this story so we can remember the beautiful person she was ❤️
It's the smiling and laughing in court for me that makes me feel they should've thrown the book at them. So sickening.
The reason these people laugh nd joke is because they already know that nothing is really going to happen to them,
When I saw those guys smiling in court, it made me wish I was there with a brick. RIP Hannah.
It sometimes feel like we should take justice in our own hands as citizens.
There hasn’t been a story I’ve heard in a while from all the true crimes channels I watch that has hurt my heart this badly. I’ve lost a 16 year old cousin to a similar crime…my heart goes out to all the victims of these disgusting men. ❤️🙏🏼
I’m sorry for your loss❤️
@@Theindigolauren thank you 🙏🏼
This brought tears to my eyes. Hannah was absolutely gorgeous with such a beautiful personality and her friend was so noble and wonderful. It angers me that those horrendous men did this to these people and their families. Truly tragic.
This case broke my heart... I'm so sorry for what she went through and her senseless death. This world fails women in such cruel ways. Thank you for always covering these cases with so much respect for the victims and their families.
Yes only women...how terrible this world has been cruel to women nobody else how awful
yea, come on. this case is tragic but it's not always about women. a guy was supposed to be dead too after all.
If every woman carried a sidearm, I promise that the exponentially reduction of rapes and murders would go down!
@@BackyardButcher that not a good solution. It would be the same as buying only an extinguisher and no smoke alarm. In your solution there is no smoke alarm.
These bastard should have been catched before by either police or psychologist.
@@hitlerhongchrist2045 The perpetration of crime against women by men versus the other way around is so far out of proportion it makes your statement ridiculous. No where did she say the world was cruel only to women, that is just you making up sh*t to promote your woke agenda. Your whole "what about poor men" in the context of her comment smacks of insecurity and a need for victimhood.
South Africa has been on the list of countries I will never ever visit for several years. Stories like this one is part of the reason.
Don't let it put you off. There is evil all over the world...America has horrific murder cases as well. South Africa is a beautiful place to visit.
Violence occurs in pockets. Locals know how to be street smart - for the most part.
Murder happens everywhere unfortunately. U might go to a convient store and get killed
@UCtFQccYpKYhLDrXbVja-UBw I visited South Africa with my family about 6 years ago. A beautiful country. Friendly people. I have only nice memories. Unfortunately like in many countries violence can be found.
@@mikaelak90 Good point! But, why did Hannah and her friend take that chance..... to be out and about in (the streets late at night) even sitting in a car.... you wouldn’t be safe!
What a tragic and heartbreaking story. So sad 😥 Lost for words. RIP Hannah and mom 🕊
Your compassion and empathy are immense, Adrian! Appreciate your hard work and yourself as a great individual.♡
I wanted to say that I went to the link for Cheslyn and they had raised the money so funding was no longer an option. While there I read such beautiful comments from subscribers of this channel. This case was horrific but the empathy your audience has shown is a true testament to the good channels like yours can really do. True crime channels are currently getting criticized but people forget the good that comes from this content. God Bless xx