So I just went back and tested the unit to match volume. I stand corrected. I don"t know why I remembered that was the case.I will Edith that portion from the video
I really wish that they had voiced the SGT-circuit differently at higher gain stages. At the lowest setting possible it’s pretty darn sweet - but, as you pointed out: it really starts farting out once you go for more of a “drive tone”.
Great video. Suggestion: next time show us the settings of each pedal! I own the origin effects and love it, sounds very musical and i was looking exactly for something not that versatile but really good on what it does. Sometimes i think pedals with too much options you end not really diggin into it and being not that fast on changing settings and getting the sound you want
Thanks for the honest review, Ivan! I love my OE Super Vintage and I used to own the SCR DI from Ampeg, which i thought sounded good. I wondered if I should switch to the new SGT but I think I will sty with my Origin Effects. It also fits nicer on my board with the DCX-Bass and the Cali76 😀
Agreed from personal experience. I never use the SVT emulation on mine. It sounds weirdly weak, nasal and lacks punch. The B15 emulation, on the other hand... chef's kiss. Adds lovely warmth and a bit of breakup when you dig in. The compressor is hit or miss, though.
Love the two , for me the phone out makes the difference , I love to practice without having to plug my rig on a soundinterface then to a computer ....
Great video Ivan! I used to gig with a 1996 SVT Classic from 2002-2006. Got a lot of compliments on my tone from gear dudes and sound guys which made me feel like a Rockstar, but man, that amp was heavy AF. I sold it and switched to an SVT 3 Pro with a Sadowsky Preamp pedal. Very fat and clear tube-like tone but no comparison to the real thing. I am interested in putting the Origin Effects in front of the SVT 3 to see what tones I can squeeze out of it. Thanks for the comparison!
Great review! The origin sounds better in the mix, less work in post production! Also, that compressor on the Ampeg… 🤐! However, IRs and routing options make it more versatile imho.
Hi .. you did so awsome ... I have Tech 21 sand Amp compare SGT DI .. which one better .. please explain for me ... i am beginer bass player .. thank you
Great video! The Super Vintage definitely sounds better, and more like the real thing. I have one and find that there’s some hiss to deal with. Does the SGT have a lower noise floor?
A good video. I’m trying to use the tech21 sans amp programable bass driver for tube amp sounds. It was a bargain at $80 Australian dollars. Have you ever used or reviewed one of their pedals
Really great content for bass players. I would prefer the Origin effects for a warmer sound, and for a more distorted grungy sound, you can't go wrong with the classic Ampeg sound. Could you do a video with your Noble to show the differences between tone on round wound, flat wound, and tape wound strings? Also, just a deep dive on all things strings? Thanks again! Love the content.
That sound the Ampeg makes on that loud E note on 3:37 is why I sold my Ampeg SCRDI. Sad to hear that farting out sound on this pedal too. It sounds like it hasn’t enough headroom.
im still waiting for my SGT DI to come,but i have an origins super vintage to compare the two.The Origins sound super good,but in mix i think the sgt di will sound much more articulated,and to me sounds more authentic ampeg than the origins.I will see if it lands finally next week,but in my opinion the SGT DI is more authentic and sounds better in the mix in this video
Is there a way you can get just the DI out with the eq section, distortion, etc., all bypassed from both these pedals? I mean, I like how the cabs sims sound but I what if I still want some clean DI for "safety". Is there a way to get it from the pedals or I 'd still need an external DI box?
I have the SansAmp v2 and I love the sound (I play only 5 string Stingrays and Sandbergs), I don't know if is a good move from Tech 21 to Origin Super Vintage, I love SansAmp for the fat punchy sound (in funky and slap, the articulation of the ghost notes)... And I have another big problem, Origin Cali76 v2 or Empress Bass Compressor Blue SPK (I seen comments on social media platforms that the Empress is better for 5 strings and I only play 5's).
@@IvanBassist I can't believe I missed that video - I don't know how as I am subscribed to your channel.. Thank you so much, just what I have been looking for. :)
To me, the Origin is more balanced, while the Ampeg is more boomy and not precise in the low mid. And I think the Origin will cut better through the mix.
Both of these pedals are replaceable with sansamp, that's just my opinion))) I have Ampeg SGT-DI and it is good, but not perfect. And there is a big BUT. It is superb with Warwick Thumb or basses with EMG humbuckers with lower tunings like C, B or lower))
Ampeg sounds way better, it rolls off the attack on your highs appropriately. The BassRig always sounds too hifi and snappy, and that's - At least for my tastes - A sound I do not like.
Nope...Not in my experience of 40 years...tried a lot of pedals and the ampeg sgt really is delivering that certain click and treble , you will expect from a rock sound ,played through an ampeg stack..forget sansamp and all that clones...also darkglass is way different ..a more modern medal aproach..But I must admit, that my ashdown tube head ,little bastard, is sounding even more lively, while recorded but the ampeg is adding that thick and rumbling tone..Perfect mixture..Also am an owner of the venture ampeg and this is really a very good sounding amp , very clear with a superb definition ..very recomandable..saludos
It's because Ampeg doesn't want to have their pedals/cheaper stuff sounding better than their Tube Heads because it's less profitable. If it wasn't for Yamaha buying Ampeg, we wouldn't even have this SGT DI, they would still be making the Scrambler.
Regarding the Super Vintage: Why don’t you just match the master volume knob to your volume when bypassed? Isn’t that what it’s for?
So I just went back and tested the unit to match volume. I stand corrected. I don"t know why I remembered that was the case.I will Edith that portion from the video
@@IvanBassist ayy bless up. Thank you for all you do 🙌🏼
Origin Effects BassRig Super Vintage gets my vote.
Great video! I would love to hear a comparison between the SGT-DI B15 setting with other B15 plugins. Tks!
Ivan: Thank you for the thoughtful demo and comparison. You’re a very musical and versatile player. Much respect. 🙏🏽
Thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, Brad!
The Ampeg has a clear mid range. I preferred it here.
Great format for this demo. The side by side comparison with similar riffs is super helpful.
I really wish that they had voiced the SGT-circuit differently at higher gain stages. At the lowest setting possible it’s pretty darn sweet - but, as you pointed out: it really starts farting out once you go for more of a “drive tone”.
Great video. Suggestion: next time show us the settings of each pedal! I own the origin effects and love it, sounds very musical and i was looking exactly for something not that versatile but really good on what it does. Sometimes i think pedals with too much options you end not really diggin into it and being not that fast on changing settings and getting the sound you want
Agreed, it would be cool if the overlaid images showed the settings in each segment. But awesome video as usual @IvanBassist
Settings are gonna vary from bass to bass and player. Just to keep in mind
Thanks for the honest review, Ivan! I love my OE Super Vintage and I used to own the SCR DI from Ampeg, which i thought sounded good. I wondered if I should switch to the new SGT but I think I will sty with my Origin Effects. It also fits nicer on my board with the DCX-Bass and the Cali76 😀
Happy to help!
I was made to understand that the strength of the SGT-DI was the B15 emulation.
Agreed from personal experience. I never use the SVT emulation on mine. It sounds weirdly weak, nasal and lacks punch. The B15 emulation, on the other hand... chef's kiss. Adds lovely warmth and a bit of breakup when you dig in. The compressor is hit or miss, though.
I watch this four months ago, and online l can't tell the difference. I understand the difficulty of the internet. Thank you bro.
There's something in the mid range response of the SGT-DI that I really don't like when you turn the drive up
Love the two , for me the phone out makes the difference , I love to practice without having to plug my rig on a soundinterface then to a computer ....
Great video Ivan!
I used to gig with a 1996 SVT Classic from 2002-2006. Got a lot of compliments on my tone from gear dudes and sound guys which made me feel like a Rockstar, but man, that amp was heavy AF. I sold it and switched to an SVT 3 Pro with a Sadowsky Preamp pedal. Very fat and clear tube-like tone but no comparison to the real thing. I am interested in putting the Origin Effects in front of the SVT 3 to see what tones I can squeeze out of it. Thanks for the comparison!
Thanks for watching! I bet the real SVT sounded massive!
@@IvanBassist It definitely did. Very thick and punchy with the smoothest slight overdrive grind.
Thank you Ivan! That was just the information I wanted, perfect!
Happy to help :)
Great review! The origin sounds better in the mix, less work in post production! Also, that compressor on the Ampeg… 🤐! However, IRs and routing options make it more versatile imho.
Ampeg for me!
Hi .. you did so awsome ...
I have Tech 21 sand Amp compare SGT DI .. which one better .. please explain for me ... i am beginer bass player .. thank you
I like both but the Ampeg has a fuller tone to me. I also run a Noble and Cali76.
Great video! The Super Vintage definitely sounds better, and more like the real thing. I have one and find that there’s some hiss to deal with. Does the SGT have a lower noise floor?
Yes. The SGT is definitely quieter.
Thanks
This. Hissing makes it almost unusable in studio-like environment. :(
A good video. I’m trying to use the tech21 sans amp programable bass driver for tube amp sounds. It was a bargain at $80 Australian dollars. Have you ever used or reviewed one of their pedals
Really great content for bass players. I would prefer the Origin effects for a warmer sound, and for a more distorted grungy sound, you can't go wrong with the classic Ampeg sound. Could you do a video with your Noble to show the differences between tone on round wound, flat wound, and tape wound strings? Also, just a deep dive on all things strings? Thanks again! Love the content.
I’ll see what I can do
That sound the Ampeg makes on that loud E note on 3:37 is why I sold my Ampeg SCRDI. Sad to hear that farting out sound on this pedal too. It sounds like it hasn’t enough headroom.
You sound amazing! I want you to demo all the DI´s :)
Thanks for watching!
im still waiting for my SGT DI to come,but i have an origins super vintage to compare the two.The Origins sound super good,but in mix i think the sgt di will sound much more articulated,and to me sounds more authentic ampeg than the origins.I will see if it lands finally next week,but in my opinion the SGT DI is more authentic and sounds better in the mix in this video
Is there a way you can get just the DI out with the eq section, distortion, etc., all bypassed from both these pedals? I mean, I like how the cabs sims sound but I what if I still want some clean DI for "safety". Is there a way to get it from the pedals or I 'd still need an external DI box?
The SGT DI has a Through Out. The Origin doesnt.
The Ampeg sounds very DI, did you had the cab sim engaged?...I going to have spend more money because of you lol, going to go with the Origin😭
I have the SansAmp v2 and I love the sound (I play only 5 string Stingrays and Sandbergs), I don't know if is a good move from Tech 21 to Origin Super Vintage, I love SansAmp for the fat punchy sound (in funky and slap, the articulation of the ghost notes)...
And I have another big problem, Origin Cali76 v2 or Empress Bass Compressor Blue SPK (I seen comments on social media platforms that the Empress is better for 5 strings and I only play 5's).
Please review the Origin Effects DCX Bass and compare it to the Bass Rig.
I’ll see what I can do!
Need to add the noble into the comparison. :). How well do they emulate the tube sound.
What here: ua-cam.com/video/YivKhdDUfPk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
@@IvanBassist I can't believe I missed that video - I don't know how as I am subscribed to your channel.. Thank you so much, just what I have been looking for. :)
in airpod pros, prefer the bassrig by a good margin
Have you tried these into an amp? (Via amp out...) Do you get the SVT/FlipTop flavour without the speaker simulation?
It gets somewhat close. Something VERY important to remember is that a big part of the SVT/B-15 tone is the speakers/cabinets used for those amps.
Origin has a cab sim in the DI
Great review.
Thanks!
Ampeg sgt di now better priced used..got it for $240 free shipping
Can someone please explain how to use the ampeg sgt. I have a Mesa subway head and cab. Can I play this like a pedal with my head and cab
Yes you can. Just connect the “preamp out” of the SGT into the input or effects return of your amp
@@IvanBassist thank you Ivan
To me, the Origin is more balanced, while the Ampeg is more boomy and not precise in the low mid. And I think the Origin will cut better through the mix.
Both of these pedals are replaceable with sansamp, that's just my opinion))) I have Ampeg SGT-DI and it is good, but not perfect. And there is a big BUT. It is superb with Warwick Thumb or basses with EMG humbuckers with lower tunings like C, B or lower))
The Origin has a better sound but the Ampeg has more soul (reggae sample)...
Oh thank god! A new over drive pedal. I was worried the other forty two thousand overdrives produced this year wouldn't get any competition.
Name me one overdrive pedal wih cab sim and XLR outs. Or you go and just learn the difference betwe OD and Amp Pedal.
there so close
to me the ampeg sounds better
Ampeg sounds way better, it rolls off the attack on your highs appropriately. The BassRig always sounds too hifi and snappy, and that's - At least for my tastes - A sound I do not like.
Everyone does the ampeg sound better than ampeg these days. What an overpriced legacy band
🤣
Nope...Not in my experience of 40 years...tried a lot of pedals and the ampeg sgt really is delivering that certain click and treble , you will expect from a rock sound ,played through an ampeg stack..forget sansamp and all that clones...also darkglass is way different ..a more modern medal aproach..But I must admit, that my ashdown tube head ,little bastard, is sounding even more lively, while recorded but the ampeg is adding that thick and rumbling tone..Perfect mixture..Also am an owner of the venture ampeg and this is really a very good sounding amp , very clear with a superb definition ..very recomandable..saludos
It's because Ampeg doesn't want to have their pedals/cheaper stuff sounding better than their Tube Heads because it's less profitable. If it wasn't for Yamaha buying Ampeg, we wouldn't even have this SGT DI, they would still be making the Scrambler.
Because Ampeg is chinese now. 🤣