This has been proven over and over for decades that animal proteins increase acid load, and are acidic, and fruits and veg are alkaline and can help balance the load. Keep up the great work Dr love your channel!
@@dr.jamesdinicolantonio2215 so interesting thank you for these videos. I had been doing carnivore to help with blood sugars. I could feel myself getting more acidic. I tried sodium bicarbonate but my legs went very puffy.... still are actually... is that because of the sodium?
Hey man! Been following you in instagram for a long time and love your content. This is the first video I’ve seen, also love the information in this video. I wanted to let you know that you sound a bit bitter and stresse with someone disagreeing with you, and I think expressions like this will turn of many followers an hinder growth and the spead of this great information.
Regarding supplementing bicarbonate and/or eating an alkaline diet, and let's say its effect on urine pH, how much is it an immediate effect, and how much is it a prolonged effect? For example, in my case, by adding bicarbonate, I've been able to raise my urine pH from about 5.3 up to 6.5 on any given day. However, if I workout, I find that my pH will go right back down again, and stay down for 12-18 hours afterward, even if I double the dose of bicarbonate that I usually take. It seems as if my body has very little bicarbonate buffer in reserve. So, I wonder, if I maintain an alkaline over time, will I build up more of a reserve, such that I am less dependent on supplementing bicarbonate on any given day, and I am able to better tolerate heavy exercise days? Or is it simply a matter of matching acid/base balance on a daily basis?
James, Bart gave RIck as an example of someone who's been on a carnivore diet for decades, but RIck has told me he eats a lot of cheese, therefore negating Bart's claim.
Barts logic: If you stop drinking water and get more and more dehydrated everyday, don't worry, it will stop because there are no studies showing the dehydration will continue. Lol
This is extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing this info! If you also eat bone supplements, egg shells powder and dairy, would that create a good base? Or would one need to supplement with bicarbonate?
@@dr.jamesdinicolantonio2215 could you expand on the bioavailability of carbonate and citrate. The elemental calcium needed couldn't be achieved from dairy due to it not being a supplemental source such as alfalfa, due to the calcium to phosphorus ratio.
How much sodium bicarbonate should one consume on a high protein diet? I've noticed that if I eat more meat at night I have to get up more frequently to pee. I also noticed that if I consume magnesium glycinate THROUGHOUT the day (e.g. if I mix it in my drinking water) instead of at specific times it tends to attenuate this effect. Thanks for the valuable info. : )
To get discounts on the Bi-carb supplement (sodium/potassium bicarbonate capsules) I take 2-3 capsules 45-60 minutes prior to my animal based meals (so it's fully absorbed and out of the stomach) to balance the acid load, create an account here us.fullscript.com/protocols/ddinicolantonio-general-health
1.) Salt intake needs to be at a level where at least around 6,000 mg of SODIUM or more per day is being ingested to have any potential to lead to any clinically meaningful increase in acidosis. The acidosis would likely only occur if a significant blood volume expansion occurs. The blood volume expansion seems to be necessary because that will cause hyperfiltration at the kidney level leading to less bicarbonate reabsorbed. It is possible however, that if a very high amount of sodium is consumed, even if it doesn't lead to blood volume expansion that there may be an acidosis induced because we reabsorb some bicarbonate and secrete some hydrogen ions with sodium, so when we ingest a lot of salt we reabsorb less sodium (because we have so much from the diet) and hence reabsorb less bicarbonate but we also secrete less hydrogen ions because hydrogen ions are secreted when we reabsorb sodium, which will be lowered when we have a lot of sodium in our diet. The only clinical study that I know of showing a potential clinically meaningful acidosis was with a sodium intake of 12,000 mg per day but this was not found with around 4,500 mg of sodium intake per day (a normal salt diet). Our best guess would be somewhere between over 6,000 mg of sodium to likely once you hit 12,000 mg of sodium per day. Basically, if someone is consuming a NORMAL amount of salt per day (3,000 to 6,000 mg of sodium) there is likely no acidosis occurring in any meaningful way. Fat would not bring any meaningful alkalinity to the body nor would sugar. Only protein or low-oxalate fruits/vegetables are the dietary factors that will meaningfully affect acid base balance in the body.
I’m so amazed by your dedication and explanation is indeed inspiring. I definitely agree with your statement Respectfully I love your knowledge and insight on this topic of this diet’s protocol. Today I was listening to Dr Berry’s podcast and I couldn’t believe how many people were talking about the health side effects in so many people doing the Carnivore diet🥩 People are consuming way too much protein🥩it can definitely damage your gut health and also give you an overload iron. Many people are struggling with stomach issues like acid reflux, diabetes etc which only protein intake can cause side effects in so many people. I believe that’s not one side fix all. You need to be aware of the facts before you start the Carnivore diet. I thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with the community. You’re a real scientist and you are helping others to achieve their goals. I really appreciate you😊🙏🫶
What were your questions? For most people, the optimal intake of vitamin D3 seems to range from 2,000-4,000 IU per day but for some outliers they may need more or less.
thanks for the information doctor, Doctor do you have suggestion how to lower Ulric acid ? eating high protein diet makes my join hurt when my Ulric acid level on the roof
While I can't give advice or recommendations the Bi-carb supplement (sodium/potassium bicarbonate capsules) I take 2-3 capsules 45-60 minutes prior to my animal based meals (so it's fully absorbed and out of the stomach) to balance the acid load has helped several people that I know of us.fullscript.com/protocols/ddinicolantonio-general-health. It's all the way at the bottom of the general health protocol.
Are the loses only confined to calcium? Also, if people drank the blood of the animals would that contain some of the minerals required to offset the acidosis? Or would the bones need to be eaten too? I’m just thinking carnivores must have a way to offset this effect.
Not blood, no , but all carnivores chew on bones, humans used to eat lots of birds and fish and chew on their bones, as large carnivores chew on ruminant bones, and ''bone powder' is an essential addition to the meat they receive in the zoo, calcium restores base losses.
Polar bears are lipivores and before the oceans became polluted they did not suffer from osteoporosis. There could be some yet to be discovered protective factor to an extremely high fat diet.
We actually aren't sure about other nutrients going into negative balance because those were not looked at so that is a VERY good question. However, in my opinion, many nutrient intakes would be SUBOPTIMAL on a modern day carnivore diet of just meat and associated fat, including vitamin C, copper, manganese, folate, magnesium, boron and probably several others. Well carnivores wouldn't necessarily have a way to offset the effect per se, remember this is a slow insidious process and it wouldn't prevent a carnivore from passing along their genes or necessarily living a fairly long life. HOWEVER, true carnivores would have consumed the blood and interstitial fluid which contains a lot of bicarbonate and fresh meat also contains bicarbonate. When the animal dies the anaerobic metabolism produces lactic acid (lactate and protons) and thus the acidity of the fluids and the meat goes up and the bicarbonate gets depleted. This is just another important detail Bart fails to discuss with his followers, not to mention that fresh meat also contains a lot of glycogen in the skeletal muscle and the liver, which is why so many people don't feel well after a few years of carnivore because modern day carnivore is NOTHING like true carnivores in the wild. Also, gnawing on the bone would give a lot of bicarbonate via the carbonate and citrate in bone and a lot of calcium. So bones, fluids and fresh meat would provide a lot of bicarbonate and natural water in the wild contains much more bicarbonate vs. tap water (which contains zero bicarbonate).
@@Lakshyakapila they won't do a trial because that means bankruptcy for the pharmaceutical industry and the food industry! I have seen so many carnivore success stories.
Amanda, I like their testimonials but they use to be ex vegans. Which means they have a history of extreme diets/food cult behavior. Carnivores immediately reminded me of veganism both are too extreme. Personally, as a person who came out of a cult, I stay away from extremes. Find evidence base nutrition like Dr. James presents its more balance.
Maybe best to avoid extremes and food cults. You don't know the long term effects and it is only fair to hear all views. Esp. when their is science to support it.
He”s one of the most knowledgeable doc i have seen in recent times, glad to subscribe you. 😊
Thank you!
Anyone who follows BK, good luck to you. Look forward to more of your well researched books that you continue to write Dr James.
Thank you for those kind words Ian!
Thanks for all you do, humanity is lucky to have you.
This has been proven over and over for decades that animal proteins increase acid load, and are acidic, and fruits and veg are alkaline and can help balance the load. Keep up the great work Dr love your channel!
Indeed, we have known this since AT LEAST 1911.
@@dr.jamesdinicolantonio2215 so interesting thank you for these videos. I had been doing carnivore to help with blood sugars. I could feel myself getting more acidic. I tried sodium bicarbonate but my legs went very puffy.... still are actually... is that because of the sodium?
Hey man! Been following you in instagram for a long time and love your content. This is the first video I’ve seen, also love the information in this video. I wanted to let you know that you sound a bit bitter and stresse with someone disagreeing with you, and I think expressions like this will turn of many followers an hinder growth and the spead of this great information.
Regarding supplementing bicarbonate and/or eating an alkaline diet, and let's say its effect on urine pH, how much is it an immediate effect, and how much is it a prolonged effect? For example, in my case, by adding bicarbonate, I've been able to raise my urine pH from about 5.3 up to 6.5 on any given day. However, if I workout, I find that my pH will go right back down again, and stay down for 12-18 hours afterward, even if I double the dose of bicarbonate that I usually take. It seems as if my body has very little bicarbonate buffer in reserve. So, I wonder, if I maintain an alkaline over time, will I build up more of a reserve, such that I am less dependent on supplementing bicarbonate on any given day, and I am able to better tolerate heavy exercise days? Or is it simply a matter of matching acid/base balance on a daily basis?
James, Bart gave RIck as an example of someone who's been on a carnivore diet for decades, but RIck has told me he eats a lot of cheese, therefore negating Bart's claim.
Nice!
Barts logic: If you stop drinking water and get more and more dehydrated everyday, don't worry, it will stop because there are no studies showing the dehydration will continue. Lol
HAHA exactly! Also, those studies need to be in a METABOLIC WARD and in TWINS! :)
I eat meat /eggs / vegetables each day 54yy😊 so far so good 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 followed Your advice read ur book 📚 thx 🙏🏼
This is extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing this info! If you also eat bone supplements, egg shells powder and dairy, would that create a good base? Or would one need to supplement with bicarbonate?
Not with the phosphorus ratio. Even bone meal supplements label the amount of phosphorus calcium ratio.
Totally depends on how much carbonate/citrate is in the bone meal as the calcium itself doesn't offset the acid load.
@@dr.jamesdinicolantonio2215 could you expand on the bioavailability of carbonate and citrate. The elemental calcium needed couldn't be achieved from dairy due to it not being a supplemental source such as alfalfa, due to the calcium to phosphorus ratio.
How much sodium bicarbonate should one consume on a high protein diet? I've noticed that if I eat more meat at night I have to get up more frequently to pee. I also noticed that if I consume magnesium glycinate THROUGHOUT the day (e.g. if I mix it in my drinking water) instead of at specific times it tends to attenuate this effect.
Thanks for the valuable info. : )
To get discounts on the Bi-carb supplement (sodium/potassium bicarbonate capsules) I take 2-3 capsules 45-60 minutes prior to my animal based meals (so it's fully absorbed and out of the stomach) to balance the acid load, create an account here us.fullscript.com/protocols/ddinicolantonio-general-health
Does a high salt diet also have this same effect? Or does it actually have the opposite effect?
Also, does high fat reduce this effect because of alkalinity of bile thats released?
1.) Salt intake needs to be at a level where at least around 6,000 mg of SODIUM or more per day is being ingested to have any potential to lead to any clinically meaningful increase in acidosis. The acidosis would likely only occur if a significant blood volume expansion occurs. The blood volume expansion seems to be necessary because that will cause hyperfiltration at the kidney level leading to less bicarbonate reabsorbed. It is possible however, that if a very high amount of sodium is consumed, even if it doesn't lead to blood volume expansion that there may be an acidosis induced because we reabsorb some bicarbonate and secrete some hydrogen ions with sodium, so when we ingest a lot of salt we reabsorb less sodium (because we have so much from the diet) and hence reabsorb less bicarbonate but we also secrete less hydrogen ions because hydrogen ions are secreted when we reabsorb sodium, which will be lowered when we have a lot of sodium in our diet. The only clinical study that I know of showing a potential clinically meaningful acidosis was with a sodium intake of 12,000 mg per day but this was not found with around 4,500 mg of sodium intake per day (a normal salt diet). Our best guess would be somewhere between over 6,000 mg of sodium to likely once you hit 12,000 mg of sodium per day. Basically, if someone is consuming a NORMAL amount of salt per day (3,000 to 6,000 mg of sodium) there is likely no acidosis occurring in any meaningful way.
Fat would not bring any meaningful alkalinity to the body nor would sugar. Only protein or low-oxalate fruits/vegetables are the dietary factors that will meaningfully affect acid base balance in the body.
I’m so amazed by your dedication and explanation is indeed inspiring.
I definitely agree with your statement
Respectfully I love your knowledge and insight on this topic of this diet’s protocol.
Today I was listening to Dr Berry’s podcast and I couldn’t believe how many people were talking about the health side effects in so many people doing the Carnivore diet🥩
People are consuming way too much protein🥩it can definitely damage your gut health and also give you an overload iron.
Many people are struggling with stomach issues like acid reflux, diabetes etc which only protein intake can cause side effects in so many people.
I believe that’s not one side fix all.
You need to be aware of the facts before you start the Carnivore diet.
I thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with the community.
You’re a real scientist and you are helping others to achieve their goals.
I really appreciate you😊🙏🫶
@@gloriamcdonough987 Thank you so much for such a nice comment. That made my day! :)
H pylori is making this impossible to do at the moment..salt or bicarb
Dr can you talk about vitamin D
What were your questions? For most people, the optimal intake of vitamin D3 seems to range from 2,000-4,000 IU per day but for some outliers they may need more or less.
King
I eat an almost all carnivore diet and don't get acid reflux, heart burn, no vomiting problems.
Acid reflux and vomiting is a result of too much bicarbonate and not enough acid. His point is you're in acidosis and calcium deficient.
thanks for the information doctor, Doctor do you have suggestion how to lower Ulric acid ? eating high protein diet makes my join hurt when my Ulric acid level on the roof
While I can't give advice or recommendations the Bi-carb supplement (sodium/potassium bicarbonate capsules) I take 2-3 capsules 45-60 minutes prior to my animal based meals (so it's fully absorbed and out of the stomach) to balance the acid load has helped several people that I know of us.fullscript.com/protocols/ddinicolantonio-general-health. It's all the way at the bottom of the general health protocol.
Can low grade hyperventilation play a role in making body (blood, urine) more acidic?
Usually people hyperventilate IF they are acidic!
Are the loses only confined to calcium?
Also, if people drank the blood of the animals would that contain some of the minerals required to offset the acidosis? Or would the bones need to be eaten too? I’m just thinking carnivores must have a way to offset this effect.
Not blood, no , but all carnivores chew on bones, humans used to eat lots of birds and fish and chew on their bones, as large carnivores chew on ruminant bones, and ''bone powder' is an essential addition to the meat they receive in the zoo, calcium restores base losses.
Polar bears are lipivores and before the oceans became polluted they did not suffer from osteoporosis. There could be some yet to be discovered protective factor to an extremely high fat diet.
We actually aren't sure about other nutrients going into negative balance because those were not looked at so that is a VERY good question. However, in my opinion, many nutrient intakes would be SUBOPTIMAL on a modern day carnivore diet of just meat and associated fat, including vitamin C, copper, manganese, folate, magnesium, boron and probably several others.
Well carnivores wouldn't necessarily have a way to offset the effect per se, remember this is a slow insidious process and it wouldn't prevent a carnivore from passing along their genes or necessarily living a fairly long life. HOWEVER, true carnivores would have consumed the blood and interstitial fluid which contains a lot of bicarbonate and fresh meat also contains bicarbonate. When the animal dies the anaerobic metabolism produces lactic acid (lactate and protons) and thus the acidity of the fluids and the meat goes up and the bicarbonate gets depleted. This is just another important detail Bart fails to discuss with his followers, not to mention that fresh meat also contains a lot of glycogen in the skeletal muscle and the liver, which is why so many people don't feel well after a few years of carnivore because modern day carnivore is NOTHING like true carnivores in the wild. Also, gnawing on the bone would give a lot of bicarbonate via the carbonate and citrate in bone and a lot of calcium. So bones, fluids and fresh meat would provide a lot of bicarbonate and natural water in the wild contains much more bicarbonate vs. tap water (which contains zero bicarbonate).
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The amount of carnivore success stories are too many to deny.
Show me a randomised controlled trail min for a year round to support your claim Amanda ☺️
@@Lakshyakapila they won't do a trial because that means bankruptcy for the pharmaceutical industry and the food industry! I have seen so many carnivore success stories.
Amanda, I like their testimonials but they use to be ex vegans. Which means they have a history of extreme diets/food cult behavior. Carnivores immediately reminded me of veganism both are too extreme. Personally, as a person who came out of a cult, I stay away from extremes. Find evidence base nutrition like Dr. James presents its more balance.
Maybe best to avoid extremes and food cults. You don't know the long term effects and it is only fair to hear all views. Esp. when their is science to support it.
@@candacelynn5095so true😊