He is more reasonable than the meme this fanbase _thinks_ is an inquisitor. When you actually grab a 40k book inquisitors as people are some of the most compelling and interestings characters around.
@@leandrocastello309 I think it depends. Books and some entries can show stupid actions committed by background Inquisitors, meanwhile main cast Inquisitors are brilliant. I mean, the Celestial Lions Chapter got blacklisted and heavy backstabbed just because one Inquisitor was pissed by a minor inconvenience with them. That was as tragic as it was stupid.
That is extremely merciful by warhammer standards it would also be extremely merciful if the orc killed the commander and like 40 children by warhammer standards this ork is basically a damn saint
To be fair a lot of Orkz won't fight an opponent who can't or won't fight back. They want a fight, not a civilian flattening sim like the Marine Malevolent are find of.
There's always at least one smart Ork in a WAAAGH. It's one of the main catalysts to having one. Specifically, a smart Ork shows up and starts getting things organized.
Only half the shipment he wanted and he’s fine with it? Because he knows he flattened their factories? By the dark gods this Ork is more kind then any Imperial Tithe collector.
Yeah, no kidding especially given the state of the 40 K lore. My first learned about it around 2010 or so when it was fully established canon, the imperium wipes systems out of existence over rounding errors on tax returns.
Nogrub: *actually makes a non-violent offer instead of just violence* Administrator: death before dishonor, xenos scum😡 Nogrub: I was hoping you'd say that😈
GW, kind of explained away in Canon that the Orks were dominated by the Blood Axe Klan who are Comparatively rational and very influenced by Human culture but then an event called "Da Big party!" Happened and they were decimated and fell from power , this "could" be them misremembering the War of The Beast.
A reasonable Ork is a scary Ork. When a Ork legitimately has enough intelligence to do anything besides fight or find something to fight, you really should be afraid.
It feels like as if he didnt hesitaded beccause of supporting the orcs, he feared the inquisition. Than he realised he is dead anyways and the orc might be the better fait.
Nogrob probably just wanted to beat up the planetary governor, but when they still managed to produce half of the planetary quota, he went, "ok, maybe dis umie gets to stay da gov'ner."
As someone who enjoys 40k without playing the tabletop I almost appreciate that GW’s business strategy is to price me out of their game before I can feasibly get addicted to it.
Departmentum munitorum "where our are ten thousend bolt guns in your TITHE!!!" "We can only provide 5 hundred as our factorys are in ruins" Munitorum "its a rebellion then?"
He's more merciful than the Administratum when a planet doesn't make its tithe. I can't imagine them being cool with, "Oh sorry, can only do 50% this year!"
On the one hand, elevating and supporting an Ork that can think and show mercy could have enormous benefits in terms of using them as a cudgel against other threats. On the other hand an Ork smart enough to do that could be the single greatest threat imaginable.
The Orkz is the only remaining old school "Silliness" of 40k back when it didn't take itself serious and had a bit satire to 80's action sci fi heroes. Orkz was based on the British Football Hooligans
Honestly it's why the Orks are my favorite, when everything else is considered super serious, here you have some space football nobheads going around opening windows in space to let air in. I think it's doubly ironic given when they tried to make Orks more grimdark and serious with War of the Beast... most of the community just went 'nah, empyioom proper gandaz m8" and kept Orks as the goofballs they rightfully are.
@@DuskEalain I actually notice "Da Orkz boyz" is slowly starting to turn "Edgy dark" by showing more blood and savagery and Mad Max style equipment, but thanksfully still kept their cockney accent
@@hanchiman I've started to notice that a bit too, fortunately on the modelling side of things I can just choose to ignore that and kitbash/paint the way _I_ like my boyz.
Tbf it was either 500 boltguns or 6 Gargantz flatten everything. Considering PDFs dont tend to have anti-titan weapons, that planet woulda been toast...
This really good lore, we need this man with gazgull to deal with khorn because i know angron aint going down without a fight and hes gonna need all the help they can get
He truly is reasonable. 500 bolt guns is half of what he asked, but that's because he and his boys smashed all the factories. So it's a good deal considering the circumstances. Man I love old 40k lore. The old Ork stuff was just the best.
The Ork was merciful because he was at least smart enough to realize "I get 500 guns now, and by the next visit they should be back to making 1000. But if I just wipe 'em out now, then I get 0 boltguns. And 0 boltguns means less fightin, and that's just not Orky."
Nobgrub being like "oh dang i flattened the boltgun factories, thus hampering the boltgun tithes...ah yeah, my bad...carry on then" is perhaps one of the most reasonable takes in 40k. Like its still evil, but a reasonable sort.
This is pretty common actually. The Gothic Armada ork intro makes mention of it. That they can't be negotiated bought save with weapons that will eventually be used against you.
I mean I think the Imperium ships guarding the eye of terror did let a massive ork waaaagh charge through. Musta thought it killed two birds with one stone, kill all the orks and give the chaos gods something to be occupied with for a bit.
@@dr.insanity9087 that was tuska daemon killa, and it did work. He never wants to leave the warp and constantly fights khorne demons, he gets revived by khorne every time he dies too. So a bunch of khorne demons and a ork waaaggh were both contained and a ton of other demons got killed by tuska before he entered the loop with khorne.
To be fair you could've just given the Orks 100 boltguns and they wouldn't be able to tell, they don't have a number beyond 5, anymore and their word is "lotz" because no self respecting Ork has time to waste time counting, not when there's fightin to be done
Orks only lives for da fightin'. We's 'ad our fight and wrecked da humies' factories. 'oo wants to rule over a buncha ruins? Dey gaves us da dakka, now it's time for WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Half a dozen Gargantz will make you change your mind fast. For the people not getting the reference: Nogrub is talking and behaving like a mobster from the black and white era( considering the time period and the fact GW is based in England, they could be referencing the Krays). The Ork is coming back at a later date for more Dakka, it's basically a racket. It's not being merciful at all. That's just a figure of speech. The fact a Warboss understand this kind of things isn't so surprising, Ork society runs on intimidation and mob rule. This one in particular seems to be a blood axe, which are the more oomie-like
He's more reasonable than an Inquisitor.
A low bar tbh
He is more reasonable than the meme this fanbase _thinks_ is an inquisitor. When you actually grab a 40k book inquisitors as people are some of the most compelling and interestings characters around.
@@leandrocastello309 I think it depends. Books and some entries can show stupid actions committed by background Inquisitors, meanwhile main cast Inquisitors are brilliant.
I mean, the Celestial Lions Chapter got blacklisted and heavy backstabbed just because one Inquisitor was pissed by a minor inconvenience with them. That was as tragic as it was stupid.
I mean Heldane is(was) a named inquisitor and was anything BUT reasonable in both the series he was involved in lol. Dude was a basket case
Fr tho
That's extremely merciful by Ork standards
That is extremely merciful by warhammer standards it would also be extremely merciful if the orc killed the commander and like 40 children by warhammer standards this ork is basically a damn saint
I've seen commissars, inquisitors, and mechanicus do far worse for less
@@raiderrivers3629 he could have erradicated half the planet and still be seen as merciful, to be fair
@@normanderiHe could have have left just a kid with no limbs and severe brain damage in a forest and be seen has better than average.
To be fair a lot of Orkz won't fight an opponent who can't or won't fight back. They want a fight, not a civilian flattening sim like the Marine Malevolent are find of.
First recorded instance of an ork attempting to be reasonable and it was to acquire more Dakka
Playing the long Dakka game
OI GITZ ! YA NEVAH HAVE ENOUF DAKKA !!
@@giovannilamarra google asked if i need to translate what you said. i speak ork just fine google...
What other time would an Ork be reasonable? If you can get more Dakka, than that's Orky ain't it?
Ain't nuffin' wrong wid more dakka.
BY MORK AND GORK that Ork is is....THINKING and NEGOTIATE !?! May the dark Gods help us for if the don`t we ar all Doomed !
He’s becoming a Krork!
He is prob a blood axe, those Mork damned gits
Jus’ good ol’ Blood Axe know wots
There's always at least one smart Ork in a WAAAGH. It's one of the main catalysts to having one. Specifically, a smart Ork shows up and starts getting things organized.
He's brutal, but cunning.
that orc is at least 15% Krork
Nah, I'd say solid 20%
100% blood axe
Nah like 7%, even 10% is too much matey.
Nah he just revolvef
That would explain how he managed to count past two without just saying ‘Many’
They retconned him cause he was too smart to be left alive
They couldn't have just killed him off
Did they retcon him, or did they just never mention him again? Because theres a difference.
No he was saved for later by gork and mork. They made him shiny eternal and purple
ye sure they didn't just... slather 'im in purple paint?
More humain than the high lords of terra
*humane and yes
@@tommygunengineer9184
*Huimeane cuz orks
@@Nuclear_energy_enjoyer I stand corrected
Considering the hali devices yeah they re definetly more humane and sane
More humane that 40k humans
Only half the shipment he wanted and he’s fine with it? Because he knows he flattened their factories? By the dark gods this Ork is more kind then any Imperial Tithe collector.
*Agri worlds tithe is short 1 carrot *
Inquisitor: oh no yr tithe is short * glasses agri world over 1 carrots *
Yeah, no kidding especially given the state of the 40 K lore. My first learned about it around 2010 or so when it was fully established canon, the imperium wipes systems out of existence over rounding errors on tax returns.
He was clear and concise with his demands and was even willing to compromise. Truly orcs are the best diplomats
Damn, a smart ork, this is new
Not really, it's from the 90s. It's actually old lore.
Apparently every once in a while an Ork can tap into the ancient knowledge of the krorks
@@g-saviour6581 Well, love learning new lore. The orks really are a special breed ain’t they!
@@aintsleptinninetyyears3621 I meant new to me, don’t do a hard dive into 40k lore but I enjoy learning about it when it comes up
@@TheUnknownSpectator ah that's fair, 40k is just ancient at this point. There's always something new I haven't heard about, that why it's fun
1000 bolt guns is honestly a really small tribute to not have your planet burned from an ork waagh
per visit we dont know how often they show up
@@bishoprenegade5540every hour
@@bishoprenegade5540also how many factories they are visiting
@@bishoprenegade5540 knowing orks, he'll forget the minute he leaves
Orks only sort of know where they're going when it comes to warp travel. So could be never or next week
Nogrub: *actually makes a non-violent offer instead of just violence*
Administrator: death before dishonor, xenos scum😡
Nogrub: I was hoping you'd say that😈
It looks more like extortion to me, but yeah. The fact that the orks genuinely just want to fight makes them great to slot in as antagonists.
@@Thalanox when you're occupied by a force of war obsessed hyperviolent giant mushrooms, just extortion is a pretty sweet deal
I vastly prefer this tone for Orks than just being fully inexplicably stupid
It's mainly the regular orks that are stupid. The warbosses are not just bigger and stronger, but smarter, too.
Must be one of those sneaky Blood Axe gitz. No self respecting Goff would be caught dead with a bolt gun.
Could be a Bad Moon considering the Gargants
GW, kind of explained away in Canon that the Orks were dominated by the Blood Axe Klan who are Comparatively rational and very influenced by Human culture but then an event called "Da Big party!" Happened and they were decimated and fell from power , this "could" be them misremembering the War of The Beast.
@@lindlekindle or a deffskull, considering theft.
@@freeb455 a Deffskull would weld 9 bolsters to a scorcha and put it on a harness.
2nd ed Goff ork Boyz. "Do we mean nothing to you"
"WAAAGGGHHH" - such wisdom🥹
“WAAAGAAHH”~ such merciful intuition🚬🙂↕️
A reasonable Ork is a scary Ork. When a Ork legitimately has enough intelligence to do anything besides fight or find something to fight, you really should be afraid.
It feels like as if he didnt hesitaded beccause of supporting the orcs, he feared the inquisition.
Than he realised he is dead anyways and the orc might be the better fait.
I can guarantee that what was on his mind. At least now he can say he tried to say no and lost half his factories for the trouble.
Reasonable offer, reasonable reply, reasonable consequences.
Nogrob probably just wanted to beat up the planetary governor, but when they still managed to produce half of the planetary quota, he went, "ok, maybe dis umie gets to stay da gov'ner."
Old lore around orks is wonderful.
Like the imperium keep sending in "advisors" that make it so the orks keep fighting together.
This is why I love old codexes, lots of great stories.
As someone who enjoys 40k without playing the tabletop I almost appreciate that GW’s business strategy is to price me out of their game before I can feasibly get addicted to it.
Looks at 3rd party guard models and 3d prints of absolutely everything else.
_Sure, priced out._ 😅
Departmentum munitorum "where our are ten thousend bolt guns in your TITHE!!!"
"We can only provide 5 hundred as our factorys are in ruins"
Munitorum "its a rebellion then?"
He's more merciful than the Administratum when a planet doesn't make its tithe. I can't imagine them being cool with, "Oh sorry, can only do 50% this year!"
Dat's why da greenies are the best! Weze the thinkyest and the fightyest!
I would like to see the Imperium be a bit more merciful on other races, a ork/imp alliance versus the Tyranids would be really cool
On the one hand, elevating and supporting an Ork that can think and show mercy could have enormous benefits in terms of using them as a cudgel against other threats. On the other hand an Ork smart enough to do that could be the single greatest threat imaginable.
Old lore Orks especially blood axes were a well n true different breed
The Orkz is the only remaining old school "Silliness" of 40k back when it didn't take itself serious and had a bit satire to 80's action sci fi heroes. Orkz was based on the British Football Hooligans
Honestly it's why the Orks are my favorite, when everything else is considered super serious, here you have some space football nobheads going around opening windows in space to let air in.
I think it's doubly ironic given when they tried to make Orks more grimdark and serious with War of the Beast... most of the community just went 'nah, empyioom proper gandaz m8" and kept Orks as the goofballs they rightfully are.
@@DuskEalain I actually notice "Da Orkz boyz" is slowly starting to turn "Edgy dark" by showing more blood and savagery and Mad Max style equipment, but thanksfully still kept their cockney accent
@@hanchiman I've started to notice that a bit too, fortunately on the modelling side of things I can just choose to ignore that and kitbash/paint the way _I_ like my boyz.
@@DuskEalain think the change started somewhere in early 201X
Bro just wanted guns and someone to take care of his friend, what a kind and gentle Ork 😊😊😊
NOGRUB is a G for that!
You know who won‘t be so merciful ? The next imperial fleet visiting sometime in the future and realizing he gave 500 holy boltguns to xenos.
Tha big golden git can shove it up iz throne!
Tbf it was either 500 boltguns or 6 Gargantz flatten everything. Considering PDFs dont tend to have anti-titan weapons, that planet woulda been toast...
Even by human standards that was downright reasonable. Plus just give them "Bolt Guns" if you know what I mean...
Itonic a ork that is more humane then many of the current leaders of the imperium
What a respectable fella
WAAAAAGGH for Nogrub
Hez got big brainz.
The one Ork that can count past 10
@cletusburgerboy9143
apparently, he can count to thousand.
Bro after roughing up an imperium world, "Eh. I think you've learned your lesson," and dipped.
An ork that can think and make somewhat fair deals terrifies me
would you call it... Orkupation
I remember this quote in the 5th edition Ork Codex, glad to finally get the context.
Look after my mate Gorefang for me. Wait what 🤣
He gets lonely
Minotaur: what do you mean you paid your taxes to an ork?!
I love how Orks have an Northerner accent haha 😆😆
And they know gunboat diplomacy, absolutely British.
Holy crap he’s close to become a Krork
"We need no shelter! We are duperior beings!"
[Moments later]
"We need no ride!"
This really good lore, we need this man with gazgull to deal with khorn because i know angron aint going down without a fight and hes gonna need all the help they can get
Vast improvement over the kind of occupations Orks did during the War of the Beast
An Ork rhat thinks... Am I the only one scared by that though?
I can just feel da Ork boss sayin it now...
"Now gett thos Worksoops bak up an runnin, I want da rest o' those Shootas by da time I get back!"
*you were right about one thing, the negotiations were short* - obi-wan Kenobi
He truly is reasonable. 500 bolt guns is half of what he asked, but that's because he and his boys smashed all the factories. So it's a good deal considering the circumstances.
Man I love old 40k lore. The old Ork stuff was just the best.
The Ork was merciful because he was at least smart enough to realize "I get 500 guns now, and by the next visit they should be back to making 1000. But if I just wipe 'em out now, then I get 0 boltguns. And 0 boltguns means less fightin, and that's just not Orky."
This honestly just sounds like rouge trader era Ufthak Blackhawk to me that ork sounds so smart he be considered krork material
That Ork is actually super chill.
Nobgrub being like "oh dang i flattened the boltgun factories, thus hampering the boltgun tithes...ah yeah, my bad...carry on then" is perhaps one of the most reasonable takes in 40k.
Like its still evil, but a reasonable sort.
This is pretty common actually. The Gothic Armada ork intro makes mention of it. That they can't be negotiated bought save with weapons that will eventually be used against you.
Least Persuasive Blood Axe:
Imagine being the guy who has to explain to the Emperors sons why you are currently making weapons for Orks...
Random factory worker: *duck tapping 4 shootas together * hey squig meat is better than corpse starch and I get a squig steak for evry shoota I make
More mercy than imperium is crazy
I would love more Orks like this!
"We can make cool shit for you to shoot with?" - Winning argument for Orks to not krump your people.
It is no wonder that chaos is sought for slavation when aliens are merciful than the imperium
Good thing the Old Ones remembered to make them merciful and willing to collaborate with other species.
Please could you do a video on that time in cadian honour when a cadian punched a praetorian for insulting cadia
man I love the orks WAAAAAAAGH!!!
Im all for Orks having serious lore and whatnot..... but damn it keep making funny shit like this
Why the imperium don’t just pay the orks to fight the nids idk but at least one guy tried
I mean I think the Imperium ships guarding the eye of terror did let a massive ork waaaagh charge through. Musta thought it killed two birds with one stone, kill all the orks and give the chaos gods something to be occupied with for a bit.
@@dr.insanity9087 that was tuska daemon killa, and it did work. He never wants to leave the warp and constantly fights khorne demons, he gets revived by khorne every time he dies too. So a bunch of khorne demons and a ork waaaggh were both contained and a ton of other demons got killed by tuska before he entered the loop with khorne.
I would follow nog'rub into the fires of the warp without hesitation
Krork genes coming through there
To be fair you could've just given the Orks 100 boltguns and they wouldn't be able to tell, they don't have a number beyond 5, anymore and their word is "lotz" because no self respecting Ork has time to waste time counting, not when there's fightin to be done
All hail nobgrob the great and merciful one!
I mean. Intelligent Ork. Usually, they just slaughter everyone, but hes using them to manufacture weapons.
Somehow this is way more terrifying than the "JUST KRUMP 'EM" ork warbosses
Nogrub got some serious green matter sloshing around in his noggin
Its all fun and games until the books cover the human farms
(He was going to let the gargantz loose regardless of acceptance on the deal)
Honestly i love orks that arnt just unga bunga dumb funny. I like older iterations of orks that are brutal, quirky but act like an actual species
Damn orks are chill like that
AY MOGRUB IZ A TRU FOLLOWA A MORK! HEZ CUNNIN. BUT HEZ ALZO BRUTAL. GOTZA LUV DEM GREEN BOIZ!
ZOTTIN' RIGHT, THAT IZ!
Then the inquisition comes and sees youre making weapons for xenos and flattens the planet
You are a Bad Ork, but a Good Man
hey man i just wanted to let you know, your content is fantastic and i watch it all of the time. never stop making videos!
The Orks understand gunship diplomacy,
And this is just another example of why I main orks.
He thinks mechanicus wears red, that means they work fasta xD
My thoughts are, “You serious? That’s all?”
Legit told him to give him guns and take care of his bro 😭
This ork later went to become the beast
Must have been a Blood Axe
To be fair, they can also be subject to old lore that wasnt really set on what is what exactly.
Loving the Ork content. Tis my grim bias, but I can't get enough of them
Orks are actually the more happy race😂
Hot damn.. Orks have more common sense that the damn Imperium!
Thats better deal than being blackmailed by the dark eldar
Salamanders or Custodians may be the nicest places to be if they were ruling said area.
Orks only lives for da fightin'. We's 'ad our fight and wrecked da humies' factories. 'oo wants to rule over a buncha ruins? Dey gaves us da dakka, now it's time for WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
It’s canon Orks sometimes express Krork genes.
Upper tier ork. On the edge of krork. Able to think of dah big picture.
Half a dozen Gargantz will make you change your mind fast. For the people not getting the reference: Nogrub is talking and behaving like a mobster from the black and white era( considering the time period and the fact GW is based in England, they could be referencing the Krays). The Ork is coming back at a later date for more Dakka, it's basically a racket. It's not being merciful at all. That's just a figure of speech. The fact a Warboss understand this kind of things isn't so surprising, Ork society runs on intimidation and mob rule. This one in particular seems to be a blood axe, which are the more oomie-like
Those mushrooms... Evolve?
Back when the writing was witty and unrivaled.
This ork would have out thought Ghazkull and that's a scary thought
I remember reading part of this in the rules book back in the later 2000s