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Yeah it’s a bit of a red herring because Ian seems to have done it to himself. He was a good serviceable d in Toronto but I never knew his background. Tough luck I guess but having played 500+ games in the big show is a pretty good achievement.
@streetdog75 Babcock is a very successful coach. Just because you don't like him will never change that. Any story I have heard about him is coming from soft players who Babs was trying to instill a backbone in. You need a backbone to succeed in the playoffs.
This story is clearly mistitled. I know M. Babcock had some major issue's of poor treatment of players, but nothing so far shows "maliciousness". Alcoholism is a disease. He clearly had substance abuse issues. I find it almost disturbing that he implies alcohol helped his game. I'm glad he is telling his cautionary tale which might help others. I have mixed feelings. Part of me feels sorry for him, part of me is disgusted he pissed away a career so many can only dream of.
Alcoholics sometimes reach a place where they perform better drunk than they do sober. Because when you’re sober (and you haven’t adjusted to a sober existence) you’re just brimming with anxiety. You can’t get into a focused headspace. Alcohol can soothe that.
@@jon8004 I find it hard to believe too many Doctors, physio's or sports trainers would agree with you that ANYONE in professional sports would perform BETTER when drunk than sober. Anxiety is not the same as being inebriated.
@@SweetLou15 You've misunderstood me (or I communicated poorly). The healthy, fully sober version of an athlete is going to perform better than the drunk version. But if that athlete is an alcoholic, the transitional phase of sobriety can be deeply disruptive and painful, creating so much anxiety that they'll actually perform better with alcohol in their system because they're more regulated in that state. Also, sometimes alcoholism can be a crude form of self-medication for undiagnosed problems or disorders that need real medical treatment. Alcohol can calm those things, and when a player like that stops drinking, their real clinical problems bubble to the surface. It's complicated. But all things being equal, you're right.
This man made it to the NHL after drinking since age 16, what a legend. I have all the respect in the world for this man, success is hard to achieve, it's even harder to keep. Hopefully he'll bounce back
Yeah this guy loves his booze and that seems to be the root of every problem in each clip I’ve watched so far. Buddy sit at home and relax you’re a pro hockey player focus on that. Hanging with randoms and drinking moonshine from a hillbilly’s truck isn’t helping.
I have watched several of these now and while I applaud Ian White for telling his story, I think he has a long way to go. He talks about getting in at 4 or 5 am and missing practice… but he was sitting on the bed ready to go…. Or he took a bunch of sleeping pills after a night of drinking and missed practice again and it was because you aren’t supposed to do that …. The show where he is talking about his firearms… I am a firearm owner in Canada as well … the part where he said he had all of them in a safe “ except maybe 3 “ is along the same lines where it’s not his fault and he was 7/10 compliant. That’s not how real life works. After listening to these I am thinking how talented he really must have been to play in the NHL and be hungover 24/7. I also think about how much teams looked the other way as it would be impossible not to know all of this stuff. Just sad but he is at least headed in the right direction….
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Can't stand her, she's a crap beat writer and I don't know how anyone can understand anything she says. She sounds like she's inebriated and slurs her speech when she talks
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Grew up watching Detroit with a lack of right Hand D at the time, was a huge fan of Ian during his stint in Detroit! Always wondered where he went after his stint
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Hopefully hes doing ok. I liked him when he was with the Leafs .He always played very well when given the chance. Here in Toronto you never heard the rumours or rumblings of partying (we heard it with Lupul) and Leaf fans probably thought he was traded because of his size and not his play .
Let's break this whole story down: - Signs in Detroit after the Sharks cut him loose when he had no other contract offers in the NHL - Babcock gives him a golden opportunity by playing him paired with Lidstrom, one of the best blueliners in the game - admits to a history of "shooting himself in the foot" and that he likes to party (more on that later) - Abundance of D-men, admits that he was 4th or 5th in the defense depth chart - they had a team meeting where they were clearly told the defense pairing would be rotated... from his reputation - my guess is his attitude wasn't they best when learning he wasn't paired with Lidstrom every game going forward (speculation based on what I heard about his days in Toronto)... but Babcock was "sticking it to me" when no longer paired with Lidstrom - "Shoots himself in the foot" by flippantly calling Gary Betteman an idiot during labor stoppage - Has the audacity and entitlement to ask competing reporters to drop the hot story of the day - a hint of what he was like in the dressing room - the partiers liked him, the more professional players - not so much - Called in for a meeting with the GM (Holland) about his stupid comments - not on teams good books at that point - 3rd game of season, pinches when he shouldn't have, panics and plows into his own goalie and gets hurt - along with his drinking (admits he's an alcoholic) and other drug habits, develops an addiction to fentanyl - When he was ready to play after injury he admits he was not in a good headspace - Babcock 100% sees this, scratches him a few games and White responds by drinking and using drugs more - Can't wake up from his fentanyl use from the night before and misses practice - admits he's never seen another player miss a practice or even be late for practice - In Calgary - parties night before game and is up to 4 - 6 am... takes sleeping pills - missed practice AGAIN - Trainers call hotel security for a wellness check - security can't wake him up - No contract offers from any NHL team that summer - admits to being an alcoholic since he was 16 or 17 years old - admits that there was always some sort of chemical in his body whether is be marijuana, alcohol or harder drugs. *_...but the way his career ended is Mike Babcock's fault_* Listen to this and tell me exactly how any of this is on Babcock. Some people can never admit fault and always need someone else to blame. I don't buy Mike Commodore's story or Mitch Marner's story on their own either - both stories are missing a whole bunch of context. Same goes for what happened in Columbus. The veterans had no problem with the picture sharing plan and even defended Babcock - the entitled snowflake zoomers (same with Marner) were "offended".
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Ian is one of the most authentic people I’ve met, he’s open and honest about his life and experiences..young players can learn a lot from this guy and his story
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Professional Sports recruit young kids to play for them and throw crazy amounts of money at them and then just expect them to act like an adult . The fact is they are kids and all of a sudden they're millionaires and still in the mindset they were in when they were 16 . Maybe teams have someone that helps guide them I don't know but if not they should maybe even provide chaperones . See how many guys are still able to make it all the way through college after they start getting millions to play there .
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Excellent click bait sir.. "Ian White talks about his substance abuse and ruining his career", doesn't quite generate the same interest as "Babcock" and "Maliciously"... Edit: edit: I had to go back to where I clicked this from just so I could click "don't recommend this channel" so the YT algorithm knows to never recommend your videos again. Hopefully no one else gets fed your BS.
I'm a Wings fan. Holy cow. We never heard these stories at the time. Nor should we, but wow. To be in the best league in the world and to party like that is insane.
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Great to hear these stories from players to help future players & just regular people become more aware of addiction issues - so thank you Ian White for sharing. Having said that, and I'm no fan of Babcock anymore, but the title of this video makes absolutely no sense because the story Ian White told is a story of self-destruction through addiction. It had zero to do with Babcock "maliciously" ending Ian Whites career.
I was a big fan of Ian White when he was on the leafs, and always wondered why detroit went bad. Having Babcock as a leafs coach basically wasted the first 2 years of marner/mathews/nylander years. Its a shame Babcock was allowed to ruin lives.
I’m just so happy the boys can get into the players assistants program without the same stigma that they once faced. Too little too late for a lot of players, Ian included.
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This should have been titled: "Ian White on ending his own career." Hopefully, he is fully over his addictions, which were / are many. He shoukd not blame others for his own vices and reputation. Hope Ian can keep it together and not revert to substance abuse.
I agreee, he was talking about starting one. you should watch the full interview with Ian or the other interviews I’ve done with Matt Murray and others, would love to have you as a listener :)
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Love the game of Hockey but I think guys like this are why I didn't pursue the game. Even looking back on who played the game in my high school would tell me, they were the party guys of the school. Though it was the 90s. Props for Ian's honesty.
So he got owners/nhlpa/management/commissioner mad at him for shooting his mouth off , missed practices, was hungover every day, was a drug addict, went out to party with friends instead of prepare for the highest level of hockey in the world, got himself traded cuz he was probably a bad influence... but his career was maliciously ended lol
A talented player who succumbed to substances. All too familiar. From the fact that he was very honest about all that he'd gone through, hopefully he's gotten himself on track. Thankfully he still has his health and can find his way.
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@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips I did watch the whole clip! I did enjoy it though haha. I just found the headline misleading. Maybe I will check out the full length podcast. Slang-on!
I have seen numerous former players that played for babcock. I haven't seen one say a good thing about him. He is a narcissistic sociopath who treats people like garbage. The story ian tells is just par for the course with Babcock.
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@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips I will check out the full episode, it's too bad that these guys keep quiet even when they do talk they never tell the full story
I didn’t even remember Ian played for Detroit, and I’m glad I didn’t. Babcock is a cancer and I was glad to see him leave (wasn’t happy he was even brought in) Detroit and see how he eventually got what he deserved. But Ian is deflecting blame on Babs because he’s unwilling to accept responsibility for destroying his career. He’s a pathological liar, which comes with being an addict, and was never prescribed fentanyl for a skate laceration. It would be hard pressed to see Oxy even prescribed for that. Just a terrible story and listening to him drone on about how everyone else caused his problems is typical of most self inflicted addicts.
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I was a huge fan of Ian when he played for the Buds.So much talent and hockey IQ he could've played for years.Always wondered what happened to Ian.Onward and Upward is what they say Ian.
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Babcock is a douche! Loved Ian White as a Leaf. I didn't know he had addiction problems. But, Babcock will not tolerate the player problems. Thanks for sharing this, I am glad to hear Ian is well.
Headline of this video is trash. Guy admits to being hammered almost every day, missing practices and never training in the off season ever. But it was Mike Babcock who ended his career. I’ll admit you guys tricked me into clicking this with the title, but never again.
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I don't. Blame Mike so much as Kenny Holland he knew what was going on. Ian was not the only victim. There was at least a dozen players and Kenny allowed it. He could have went down there and said this is the way it's going. I blame him because Mike is always gonna be a muppet
Holland was a weakling when it came to Babcock. Just look at the Modano situation where he intentionally sat him for the last game of the season so he couldn’t get his 1500 games before retiring? Such a dick move that Ken could’ve ended.
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Man, you guys should be WAY better at choosing your titles... and honestly, this just lowers my trust towards this channel sorry.... This not coming from a Babcock fan either... Just a fan of good hockey.
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Sad that a fella with his talent, can't take responsibility for his actions and blames everyone else for his failure..... Story of so many addicts lives
Ended his career doesn't mean that it was wrong of him to do so. That being said taking him of that pairing with Lidstrom at the time seems very Babcockian
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Bad on the NHL and the Red Wings as well. If anyone had any idea that Ian White had a substance abuse problem and no one did anything to help him get help (I.e. NHL player assistance program) then shame on them
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Ian still has 2 little kids wondering where their dad went. Never too late to man up and turn shit around with the proper help. Hopefully the “exposing” Babs is part of the recovery and not just passing the buck.. or puck.
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Babcock was one of the best coaches in the league. He didn't end your career. Your drug addiction ended that. It's pretty sad that you blame him. You seem to always blame things on everyone else, but that's what a drug addict does, I guess. I hope you clean up. I wish you nothing but the best man
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I wanted to hear the part about Babcock ending his career so I listened to the whole thing like an idiot lol. It's always someone elses fault that you're an alcoholic, substance abuser, a partier and as a whole, an irresponsible human being.... I didn't expect this to be a comedic video.
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He had both hands in on ending his career. He seems to always want to put the finger of blame on everyone but him. Not sure who his agent was but they let this guy down as well.
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What a waste of my time. This had nothing to do with Bancock. Its about a players struggles with addiction. Plus he is very slow and boring and has trouble getting to the point. Now I cant trust your site to come back.
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Watching these clips on Ian he seems to be a classic hothead. Quick to temper and not thinking out the things he does or says. I wish the best for him. Only getting old will really fix him. Believe me, I know.
Oh Man...I didn't know anything about Ian until I starting watching these videos yesterday...sigh...I hope Ian has pulled out of his substance and Booze Problems...
That's not true. Mind you I am in Canada but I discovered reading the notes months after my heart surgery that I was given fentanyl for the pain. I had no idea.
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Good job letting him speak and not interrupting like a lot of podcasters do now
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Interruption is often a necessary aspect of interviewing. It makes the conversation more efficient. People tend to wander.
Was fine in this case, very informative
Babcock is a douche who should never be in hockey again, but the title of this isn't what the story is about. Unless Mike = drugs & Babcock = booze.
Yeah it’s a bit of a red herring because Ian seems to have done it to himself. He was a good serviceable d in Toronto but I never knew his background. Tough luck I guess but having played 500+ games in the big show is a pretty good achievement.
100%!
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@streetdog75 Babcock is a very successful coach. Just because you don't like him will never change that. Any story I have heard about him is coming from soft players who Babs was trying to instill a backbone in. You need a backbone to succeed in the playoffs.
There are a lot of douche's in the league, should they all be banned.
This story is clearly mistitled. I know M. Babcock had some major issue's of poor treatment of players, but nothing so far shows "maliciousness". Alcoholism is a disease. He clearly had substance abuse issues. I find it almost disturbing that he implies alcohol helped his game. I'm glad he is telling his cautionary tale which might help others. I have mixed feelings. Part of me feels sorry for him, part of me is disgusted he pissed away a career so many can only dream of.
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Alcoholics sometimes reach a place where they perform better drunk than they do sober. Because when you’re sober (and you haven’t adjusted to a sober existence) you’re just brimming with anxiety. You can’t get into a focused headspace. Alcohol can soothe that.
@@jon8004 I find it hard to believe too many Doctors, physio's or sports trainers would agree with you that ANYONE in professional sports would perform BETTER when drunk than sober. Anxiety is not the same as being inebriated.
@@SweetLou15you might find it hard to believe that not everyone is the same but it’s true.
@@SweetLou15 You've misunderstood me (or I communicated poorly). The healthy, fully sober version of an athlete is going to perform better than the drunk version. But if that athlete is an alcoholic, the transitional phase of sobriety can be deeply disruptive and painful, creating so much anxiety that they'll actually perform better with alcohol in their system because they're more regulated in that state. Also, sometimes alcoholism can be a crude form of self-medication for undiagnosed problems or disorders that need real medical treatment. Alcohol can calm those things, and when a player like that stops drinking, their real clinical problems bubble to the surface. It's complicated. But all things being equal, you're right.
This man made it to the NHL after drinking since age 16, what a legend. I have all the respect in the world for this man, success is hard to achieve, it's even harder to keep. Hopefully he'll bounce back
New title suggestion: Ian White on how addiction and partying ended his career. I hope he's doing better now.
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I'm having a difficult time figuring out how Ian's substance abuse addiction was Mike Babcock's fault.
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Totally agree what a misleading headline
I agree its hard to see what Babcock did wrong here other than not be more supportive or try to help more.
Clickbait.
Yeah this guy loves his booze and that seems to be the root of every problem in each clip I’ve watched so far. Buddy sit at home and relax you’re a pro hockey player focus on that. Hanging with randoms and drinking moonshine from a hillbilly’s truck isn’t helping.
He was a prime candidate for the players assistance program, it would be different if he was playing today
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I have watched several of these now and while I applaud Ian White for telling his story, I think he has a long way to go. He talks about getting in at 4 or 5 am and missing practice… but he was sitting on the bed ready to go…. Or he took a bunch of sleeping pills after a night of drinking and missed practice again and it was because you aren’t supposed to do that …. The show where he is talking about his firearms… I am a firearm owner in Canada as well … the part where he said he had all of them in a safe “ except maybe 3 “ is along the same lines where it’s not his fault and he was 7/10 compliant. That’s not how real life works. After listening to these I am thinking how talented he really must have been to play in the NHL and be hungover 24/7. I also think about how much teams looked the other way as it would be impossible not to know all of this stuff. Just sad but he is at least headed in the right direction….
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Who prescribed Fentanyl for a cut. This guy is lucky to still be alive and should count his blessings.
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Very doubtful he was prescribed fentanyl. Probably got an IV injection or two in the ER. From there he most likely bought it on the street.
Great interview
He was a plus 22 at the end of that season (VERY good) and he only Played one more in the NHL
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Pairing with #5 made anyone look good.
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He's saying Helene St. James sent that tweet without saying Helen St. James sent it.
Can't stand her, she's a crap beat writer and I don't know how anyone can understand anything she says. She sounds like she's inebriated and slurs her speech when she talks
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I always wondered how this went down with Whitey. That year with Nick in Detroit was incredible. Thanks for doing this interview, Trav!
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Grew up watching Detroit with a lack of right Hand D at the time, was a huge fan of Ian during his stint in Detroit! Always wondered where he went after his stint
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People think that life with the game is easy for these guys .
Great interview .
Anything but!
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Always enjoyed watching Ian when he played for the Leafs. Sad what drugs can do to someone's life when someone lets it happen.
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Hopefully hes doing ok. I liked him when he was with the Leafs .He always played very well when given the chance. Here in Toronto you never heard the rumours or rumblings of partying (we heard it with Lupul) and Leaf fans probably thought he was traded because of his size and not his play .
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Sounds like he ended it himself
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Let's break this whole story down:
- Signs in Detroit after the Sharks cut him loose when he had no other contract offers in the NHL
- Babcock gives him a golden opportunity by playing him paired with Lidstrom, one of the best blueliners in the game
- admits to a history of "shooting himself in the foot" and that he likes to party (more on that later)
- Abundance of D-men, admits that he was 4th or 5th in the defense depth chart - they had a team meeting where they were
clearly told the defense pairing would be rotated... from his reputation - my guess is his attitude wasn't they best when
learning he wasn't paired with Lidstrom every game going forward (speculation based on what I heard about his days in
Toronto)... but Babcock was "sticking it to me" when no longer paired with Lidstrom
- "Shoots himself in the foot" by flippantly calling Gary Betteman an idiot during labor stoppage
- Has the audacity and entitlement to ask competing reporters to drop the hot story of the day - a hint of what he was like in
the dressing room - the partiers liked him, the more professional players - not so much
- Called in for a meeting with the GM (Holland) about his stupid comments - not on teams good books at that point
- 3rd game of season, pinches when he shouldn't have, panics and plows into his own goalie and gets hurt
- along with his drinking (admits he's an alcoholic) and other drug habits, develops an addiction to fentanyl
- When he was ready to play after injury he admits he was not in a good headspace
- Babcock 100% sees this, scratches him a few games and White responds by drinking and using drugs more
- Can't wake up from his fentanyl use from the night before and misses practice - admits he's never seen another player miss a
practice or even be late for practice
- In Calgary - parties night before game and is up to 4 - 6 am... takes sleeping pills - missed practice AGAIN - Trainers call hotel
security for a wellness check - security can't wake him up
- No contract offers from any NHL team that summer
- admits to being an alcoholic since he was 16 or 17 years old - admits that there was always some sort of chemical in his
body whether is be marijuana, alcohol or harder drugs.
*_...but the way his career ended is Mike Babcock's fault_*
Listen to this and tell me exactly how any of this is on Babcock.
Some people can never admit fault and always need someone else to blame.
I don't buy Mike Commodore's story or Mitch Marner's story on their own either - both stories are missing a whole bunch of context. Same goes for what happened in Columbus. The veterans had no problem with the picture sharing plan and even defended Babcock - the entitled snowflake zoomers (same with Marner) were "offended".
Lidstrom could decide who he played with at that point. Tells how much of a talent Ian White actually was.
Touching story Ian!!!!! I understand your pain addiction as well as your journey
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Ian is one of the most authentic people I’ve met, he’s open and honest about his life and experiences..young players can learn a lot from this guy and his story
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Professional Sports recruit young kids to play for them and throw crazy amounts of money at them and then just expect them to act like an adult . The fact is they are kids and all of a sudden they're millionaires and still in the mindset they were in when they were 16 . Maybe teams have someone that helps guide them I don't know but if not they should maybe even provide chaperones . See how many guys are still able to make it all the way through college after they start getting millions to play there .
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Excellent click bait sir.. "Ian White talks about his substance abuse and ruining his career", doesn't quite generate the same interest as "Babcock" and "Maliciously"...
Edit: edit: I had to go back to where I clicked this from just so I could click "don't recommend this channel" so the YT algorithm knows to never recommend your videos again. Hopefully no one else gets fed your BS.
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I'm a Wings fan. Holy cow. We never heard these stories at the time. Nor should we, but wow. To be in the best league in the world and to party like that is insane.
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Back in the 90s alot of those guys really partied. It was alot tougher then and alot guys were on pain killers and cocaine
The doctor who gave Ian freaking Fentanyl should have his license revoked. This stuff is used for incredibly sever cases of pain like cancer.
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Mike Babcock didn't end Ian Whites career, Ian White ended his own career.
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Great to hear these stories from players to help future players & just regular people become more aware of addiction issues - so thank you Ian White for sharing. Having said that, and I'm no fan of Babcock anymore, but the title of this video makes absolutely no sense because the story Ian White told is a story of self-destruction through addiction. It had zero to do with Babcock "maliciously" ending Ian Whites career.
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I was a big fan of Ian White when he was on the leafs, and always wondered why detroit went bad. Having Babcock as a leafs coach basically wasted the first 2 years of marner/mathews/nylander years. Its a shame Babcock was allowed to ruin lives.
Ruin lives? Give me a break.
@@Leroy-df3ee Babcock is a known psychopath. There's a reason he never got another NHL coaching job.
@@Leroy-df3ee BABCOCK BURNER ACCOUNT#34 LOL..
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@@Ottotherepoman1 Ok, snowflake.
There’s a special place in hell for Mike Babcock.
When he meets our maker, he’s not being let in through those gates. I know that as a fact
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Yeeeaaa, you’re not wrong but this video has nothing to do with babs being a bad guy. This was all self inflicted…did you even watch the video?
Ian White accepts responsibility for his mistakes. He achieved a great deal of success despite his personal demons.
Awesome that Babcock finally was exposed for who he truly is as a person.
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I’m just so happy the boys can get into the players assistants program without the same stigma that they once faced. Too little too late for a lot of players, Ian included.
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This should have been titled: "Ian White on ending his own career." Hopefully, he is fully over his addictions, which were / are many. He shoukd not blame others for his own vices and reputation. Hope Ian can keep it together and not revert to substance abuse.
*should
Ian White has a good voice with good tempo.
Podcast market would work for him…
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Love Ian's candor despite the misleading tag.
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Love the game of Hockey but I think guys like this are why I didn't pursue the game. Even looking back on who played the game in my high school would tell me, they were the party guys of the school. Though it was the 90s. Props for Ian's honesty.
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Must have been awesome to play a season with Lidstrom. Hard to beat that.
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So he got owners/nhlpa/management/commissioner mad at him for shooting his mouth off , missed practices, was hungover every day, was a drug addict, went out to party with friends instead of prepare for the highest level of hockey in the world, got himself traded cuz he was probably a bad influence... but his career was maliciously ended lol
He just needed a hand up, not a kick down.
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A talented player who succumbed to substances. All too familiar. From the fact that he was very honest about all that he'd gone through, hopefully he's gotten himself on track. Thankfully he still has his health and can find his way.
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I don't think he was aware that he was self-destructing, not partying. None of us were back then.
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Ian doesn't realize a pylon could have been out there with Lindstrom. He's trying to gang up on Babcock
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This video did not explain how mike babcock maliciously ended Ian whites career.
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@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips I did watch the whole clip! I did enjoy it though haha. I just found the headline misleading. Maybe I will check out the full length podcast. Slang-on!
I have seen numerous former players that played for babcock. I haven't seen one say a good thing about him. He is a narcissistic sociopath who treats people like garbage. The story ian tells is just par for the course with Babcock.
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@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR STYLE OF LETTING THE GUEST TALK WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.
So, then what happened?
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He was a tough little s.o.b.
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I always liked Ian when he was in Toronto
@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips I will check out the full episode, it's too bad that these guys keep quiet even when they do talk they never tell the full story
I heard nothing good about babcock. Unfortunately for ian he was the coach in detroit.
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What a waste of talent. Hope Ian can keep things on the right track
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not a huge waste, had a lengthy career 500 plus games
I didn’t even remember Ian played for Detroit, and I’m glad I didn’t. Babcock is a cancer and I was glad to see him leave (wasn’t happy he was even brought in) Detroit and see how he eventually got what he deserved. But Ian is deflecting blame on Babs because he’s unwilling to accept responsibility for destroying his career. He’s a pathological liar, which comes with being an addict, and was never prescribed fentanyl for a skate laceration. It would be hard pressed to see Oxy even prescribed for that. Just a terrible story and listening to him drone on about how everyone else caused his problems is typical of most self inflicted addicts.
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Not yet. I have viewed a couple of the segments so will definitely keep viewing your stuff. Nice work my friend!
I was a huge fan of Ian when he played for the Buds.So much talent and hockey IQ he could've played for years.Always wondered what happened to Ian.Onward and Upward is what they say Ian.
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Ian is not wrong Bettman is a idiot. Has ruined hockey
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Babcock is a douche! Loved Ian White as a Leaf. I didn't know he had addiction problems. But, Babcock will not tolerate the player problems. Thanks for sharing this, I am glad to hear Ian is well.
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Headline of this video is trash. Guy admits to being hammered almost every day, missing practices and never training in the off season ever. But it was Mike Babcock who ended his career. I’ll admit you guys tricked me into clicking this with the title, but never again.
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Was Babcock his fentanyl dealer?
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@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips no, stop with the BS
Alcohol is a progressive disease, gets worse and worse with age. Pro sports are incredibly competitive, easy to find yourself out of the league
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Don’t take drugs and alcohol. It will ruin your life. Ian White
The term,,,my own worst enemy yeah so,,,,
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I don't.
Blame Mike so much as Kenny Holland he knew what was going on. Ian was not the only victim. There was at least a dozen players and Kenny allowed it. He could have went down there and said this is the way it's going. I blame him because Mike is always gonna be a muppet
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Holland was a weakling when it came to Babcock. Just look at the Modano situation where he intentionally sat him for the last game of the season so he couldn’t get his 1500 games before retiring? Such a dick move that Ken could’ve ended.
Babcock didnt end his career...he ended it himself
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It sounds like he's mostly taking ownership
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Man, you guys should be WAY better at choosing your titles... and honestly, this just lowers my trust towards this channel sorry.... This not coming from a Babcock fan either... Just a fan of good hockey.
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I wonder if there's anything left of his $10.6 million in earnings? Should read Theo Fleury's 2009 book - Playing With Fire.
Sad that a fella with his talent, can't take responsibility for his actions and blames everyone else for his failure..... Story of so many addicts lives
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He took responsibility, Buster.
@@jon8004 How so???
@@warrenlafond1878 Well, he carefully explained everything he did wrong, and he didn't blame it on anyone else.
1499. That says it all
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14.99$ ? what are you on about
Clickbait title.
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Ended his career doesn't mean that it was wrong of him to do so. That being said taking him of that pairing with Lidstrom at the time seems very Babcockian
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Bad on the NHL and the Red Wings as well. If anyone had any idea that Ian White had a substance abuse problem and no one did anything to help him get help (I.e. NHL player assistance program) then shame on them
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Ian still has 2 little kids wondering where their dad went. Never too late to man up and turn shit around with the proper help. Hopefully the “exposing” Babs is part of the recovery and not just passing the buck.. or puck.
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Babcock was one of the best coaches in the league. He didn't end your career. Your drug addiction ended that. It's pretty sad that you blame him. You seem to always blame things on everyone else, but that's what a drug addict does, I guess. I hope you clean up. I wish you nothing but the best man
what a BEAUTY
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Hold on...he said he played in Detroit for 4 years?? He was there for 2 years at most lol
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I wanted to hear the part about Babcock ending his career so I listened to the whole thing like an idiot lol. It's always someone elses fault that you're an alcoholic, substance abuser, a partier and as a whole, an irresponsible human being.... I didn't expect this to be a comedic video.
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He was mid. Lindstrom made him better. Babcock new it. Babs is a p.o.s. but this is just reality with Ian white
True, but they were a pretty good pair.
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The ending…. “So now I’m really depressed and have no prospects” HEY IF YOU ENJOYED THIS VIDEO
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And to think that the Leafs paid him $25 million to get outta town. Looks good on them. Loser franchise>dirtbag coach. A match made in heaven.😃👍🏾
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Quite the ending
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and now i'm really depress- HEY IF YOU ENJOYED THIS VIDEO
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Such a good player but addictions took his career and marriage. Sad cause so many NHL guys have this issue.
Then they start podcasts
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Sounds like Ian had a hand in ending his own career…
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He had both hands in on ending his career. He seems to always want to put the finger of blame on everyone but him. Not sure who his agent was but they let this guy down as well.
Sounds like a Montreal Cdn Prospect Story Greame Bonar
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Definitely on painkillers
Ian doesn't blame Babcock whatsoever. Only thing Babs should have done is kept him with Lidstrom in playoffs..
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A drunk and a drug addict and Babcock is the bad guy for not wanting a WEAK man on the team!
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Recovered addict, that could beat the wheels off you, boy.
@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips You are an idiot. Misleading title. I hope your podcast fails.
Anyone who thinks addicts are “weak” are usually pretty fragile themselves. And ignorant.
Sad story. But your channel sucks shit for the clickbait.
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@@SlanginTheBizkitPodcastClips no chance
Babcock ended his career? Sounds like Ians partying ended his time in Detroit.
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This story is not about Mike Babcock ……
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What a waste of my time. This had nothing to do with Bancock. Its about a players struggles with addiction. Plus he is very slow and boring and has trouble getting to the point. Now I cant trust your site to come back.
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I know Babcock is a douche bag, but this is all on Ian. It’s a shame, but blame yourself.
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I hate Babcock, but it sounds like substance abuse killed your career. I'd sue the Dr who gave you fentanyl.
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Watching these clips on Ian he seems to be a classic hothead. Quick to temper and not thinking out the things he does or says. I wish the best for him. Only getting old will really fix him. Believe me, I know.
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Oh Man...I didn't know anything about Ian until I starting watching these videos yesterday...sigh...I hope Ian has pulled out of his substance and Booze Problems...
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LOL no hospital "gives you" Fent. That's for cancer patients, and extreme ones at that. He is so full of crap
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That's not true. Mind you I am in Canada but I discovered reading the notes months after my heart surgery that I was given fentanyl for the pain. I had no idea.
Babcock was bad at changing something that was working, don't get me started on blashell
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Sounds more like u ended your career not Baddick the coach.
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Are you sure Babs ruined your career?
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Hard to listen to someone so lost.
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Alcohol and drugs were far more important to this guy than his career from the get go. He just wasn't a very bright guy is what it comes down to.
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New name for booze and drugs = Babcock ?
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