Lol. I tried 3 different times to play as an asshole but I feel bad every damn time. I know it's stupid, it shouldnt really matter but for some reason I cant do it.
@@私の名前を翻訳しないでください I'm sure most people did. You save a ton of money and no longer need the discounts and you're pretty heavily armed by that point and probably have a good idea on how to get away from the law (I got so bored of it that I started robbing places in saint denis because that's the hardest place to get away if you do it in the middle of the city
9:35 From this moment on, I never gave Uncle a hard time for being "lazy." He survived being slowly cooked alive, and that shit hurts. Probably a lot more than his "lumbago."
@@badussy there's a glitch actually. you have to use the $500 cheat before the mission "Angelo Bronte, A Man of Honor" because when you finish that mission, it will go straight to the gang partying with Jack and automatically saves your game even with cheats. They haven't patched it yet
The odriscolls are contemporary outlaws. They Audibly announce when they’re robbing you, and warn you to stay away from their camps if you get too close. The worst I’ve seen them do is ambush me just outside valentine. But it wasn’t even particularly fierce. Just 3 dudes with rifles, announcing their presence, then shooting at me. The others? Johnny Reb shoots innocents in public just outside of the capital, and Lynches black people. Also loves the N word. Murfree brood are just downright cavemen. And the skinners? You can see firsthand.
@@airhorn07 I mean, colm? Yeah he’s a bad man. But at least he doesn’t abduct women to r@pe and then kill them. Or shoot innocent civilians in public as a show of strength. Or all of the shit skinners do. All colm does is rob trains and abduct rival gang members. He even said it himself. After he’s got Dutch in chains, it’s over. He’s gonna leave. I love UA-cam censorship. Fuck off, Susan.
@@LoudaroundLincoln Nah, Skinners are way worse than the Night Folk. Night Folk are savages, not too civilized people. They set traps, yeah, but at least they give a quick death to their victims, and they probably use them for rituals or something, not for fun But the Skinners kills people not because of money, not because of pride, not because of revenge, they kill people because they like to. And the worse part, is that they torture their victims. Sorry if my english sucks. :(
I hunted them down as John Marston for about 4 in game days. Found all of their camps and random encounters and slaughtered them like the pigs they are. They were too close to beachers hope for my comfort.
@@sergeantmajorgross4461 they do satanic shit in the caves and when you go in there in one misson a murfee resurrects a dead person and when you kill him the body drops with him.
The horse at the start with the arrows in I found in my game one I cleaned him up and made him my main horse eventually we went to get revenge on them and found them killed them all
One of my favorite memories from my first play through was encountering the wagon with a dead driver being pulled by a wounded horse, a female white Nokota. I cut her loose, rode her into the Blackwater stables to get her cleaned up and healed, and renamed her “Revenant”. She was my horse through the latter half of the epilogue, eventually getting to level 4 bonding. I made a point of using her during every Skinner Brothers bounty, and attended Otis Skinner’s hanging with her. It just felt like the right thing to do.
Sad the man that was scalped that even being as injured as he was he was still worried about a stranger and telling him to run away because they could still be near.
@@demonwolf570 I kinda doubt they do eat them, since they remove organs and body parts from most of their victims, and the organs or parts that were removed can be found around.
I’ve hated the damn Skinners ever since they killed Willard Wayne in that epilogue mission. Might sound crazy, but I vowed to kill every Skinner in West Elizabeth, to avenge him
@@vinizin8291 I needed the space on my PC for other games. Now I regret it. I should have said reintall the game, my fault. for that gang need a good hunting. Heck If someone said for the online game said "we hunt Murfree" I would reinstall it for that!
Same here, had to avenge him for his family that he'll never return to. He gave his life for us to go back to Jack and Abigail, so I'm With you and went on to destroy them and catch Otis Skinner and others to kick em in teeth
@@mapleflag6518 Doesnt really suit his character, guy managed to be as fast as Micah with gun so I think he was most likely camping there, took them out/scared them and then boom its his domain.
I came across one that was still living but had a arrow in it was Surprised it was still living I believe it was a nokota horse I may have spelt it wrong
I thought the scalpings and arrows in wagons were all from the natives cause I've been ambushed by a group of them before, until I met the Skinner's then I started thinking otherwise
I realize the Devs had to inflate numbers to make the encounters challenging, but if you add up the numbers you kill throughout these encounters, the Skinners could have easily ridden down as a group and wiped out Blackwater.
Yeah that's pretty much the case for every gang/group of enemies in the game. It kinda takes away the immersion when Arthur/John have to kill a small army basically every mission.
@@MrZomBie775 To be fair, honestly emulating how hard and intense "squad" combat is within a video game would be nigh on impossible, and also impossible for +90% of gamers to play against. From everything my Veteran friends tell me, the stupidest IRL enemy is 100 times more dangerous than any NPC, and because of game mechanics, even PVP player opponents don't really stack up, or they stack up too well. Anyway, immersion is a bit dinged up when you have killed literally thousands of people by the end of the story.
I think that, while the numbers are inflated, they’re less inflated than you may think. None of the gangs are stupid, they know that if they literally wiped out an entire town they would get the government on their tail, and they wouldn’t last long after that. Look what happened to our gang. All we did was rob a few banks and the pinkertons relentlessly hunted us down. Imagine the response if we had sacked one or more of the towns. We wouldn’t have had the many conversations we had with Milton, because he would have killed us all ASAP.
@@Aplesedjr Good points. In fact there were several "Range Wars" in the old west that ended up quite like that. One side got too big for their britches and ended up being hunted down. If anyone deserved to meet the Skinners it was Milton.
I always got a laugh how the enemy gangs develop. At first it's just a rival group of outlaws. Then it's bitter old war vets. Then it's inbred cannibals. Then it's another group of masochists. And finally, just some dudes in Mexico haha
>walk up to a guy in his own camp and threaten him with a knife >walk away with your back to him after he shows no real fear Do all the skinners just share one brain cell, or?
Killing skinner/murfee brothers is one of my favorite things to do in rdr2 . I completed the game with high honor & im only killed bandits, gangs, robbers in the entire game😌
@lumbago hey i do the exact same things. i go and catch random people on the roads, hogtie them, take them to lakay, pleasance or limpany or any such abandoned town and torture them and finally drown them in the nearest water source
@lumbago a lot of blood comes out of them while drowning. Also varmint rifle one shots on the face so it isnt worth it. Small game arrow takes 3 or 4 arrows to the face to kill so it prolongs the suffering
I remember getting ambushed by skinners I remember killing them all and the last one I threw my lasso at him and kept running with my horse while he kept screaming never felt more satisfied
There are quite a few of these encounter that are somewhat creepy,you would not expect such thing happen while you are in "camping mode"The Murfree's do that too when you camp in their terittory for the first time and then there's that creepy lady that comes and aks if she can warm herself up at your camp fire while talking crazy stuff
Game: this mission is called “uncles bad day” Me who just shot, burned, cut, and utterly slaughtered all of the skinners: Bad seems a little f-cking light
My mans still out here putting spoiler warnings 2 Years after it came out. You are a saint. Thank you from the people who got the ending spoiled for them by people back when it came out.
Really though? I mean, 2 years later...if someone hasn't even played the story at this point yet, why the heck are you still watching videos about the world and lore of the game?
Devin C he’s just sayin it was spoiled for em when it first came out like what happened to me as well. He’s just thankin the content creator for generally showing enough respect to put a spoiler warning even 2 years after. If more ppl would do this the less we’d have everything spoiled right off the hop just because UA-cam recommends it. 😭
Devin C some we’re waiting for the PC release which is much more recent. If you’re working 70 hours a week and doing maybe a mission a day at best as I did, the story is a beast to get through. Worth it, but a beast all the same.
The cult in oultast 2 were fucking boring as shit, only marta was scary. The heretics on the other hand were near nightmare fuel but all of them paled in comparison to loutermilch demon
I have the platinum trophy for RDR2 but had never seen the athletes' mass grave, that has to be one of the most disturbing things I've seen in this game.
The Blackwater Athletics wasn't the work of the Skinners: Too smooth and too silent, because they've been asphyxiated and the bodies are well hidden. The Skinners are arrogant and want to be noticed and they are much, much more brutal, putting the bodies on public display.
10:14 This is one aspect I like about John's character, he tries to understand people, and make sense of what they're doing; even if said people are sadistic nihilists.
The same camping encounter happened to me, I was really scared, Then I saw that one of them had a missouri Fox Trotter *All Hell Broke loose after that*
@@4lfie- late to the show, but it's at Compson's Stead. When you go to get the old bastard's items, you find it has been foreclosed on the orders of a Judge Meredith Holden
I actually found the missing horse from the wagon. I stopped the wagon and freed the first horse (keeping it for myself) and when riding to Beecher’s hope, I came across the horse. It was dead with a bunch of arrows in it’s body. Poor thing
I like playing little in game games on rdr like for instance I'll load up just to spend like an in game week just doing work around the farm then at like 6pm in game time I'll ride down to blackwater buy a drink and read the newspaper for a bit then ride back and sleep to reaer the day anyway one of these was making john a notorious bounty hunter and I ran into skinners torturing a woman I then proceeded to kill all of them before they could react
My highschool janitor turned out to be a murderer who raped and killed the girls in my school and one of the people he killed was my best friend so I fucking beat the guy half to death
@@kyomdrift4319 Sure, the Principal has PTSD from Vietnam and has killed people, but that was killing out of survival, not out of pleasure. Otis Skinner and his brother however, they are unhinged psychopaths who kill for fun. Don't worry, I wasn't offended in any form, just saying.
This video is just absolutely brilliant. From your in-game cinematography to the story telling. You really set the tone and atmosphere of the Skinner Brothers with a bit of your charm. Great video from beginning to end. Really admirable :)
@@760Miramar It's the LeMat revolver. It came into SP with an update along with the M1899 Pistol and the Evans Repeater. Before this, those weapons were Online only.
Everytime I encounter a Skinner I hogtie one of them then leave them in swamps for the nightfolk or the Gators to get them but I usually blow their heads off 😂
The Skinner Brothers seems to be the 'evil' version of the original Van Der Linde Gang. The Skinners almost mirror Dutch's mode of operation and philosophy before his descent into madness. As explained within RDR2 lore, Dutch's vision was to create a 'Savage Utopia' free of the controlling grip of civilization. His gang have long travelled westwards to hopefully settle within the open plains. This appears to be the strategy of the Skinners, moving to Tall Trees probably with the intent to settle on the Great Plains prior to John Marston and his posse's arrival. Certain members of the Skinners seem to be the equivalent to members of the VDLG. Elias Green is a hot-headed enforcer who seems act as a reflection of Micah/Bad Arthur and as a contrast to Good Arthur. Whereas Otis Skinner is an educated, eloquently spoken leader of the gang, very similar to Dutch or Hosea in that regard. Note that the Skinners appear have been around for as long if not longer than VDLG. It was possible that the Skinners may too have started as a band of idealists that took the writing's of Evelyn Miller to heart, hence the Skinner's preference of staying within the wilderness and their interesting inclusivity when it comes to recruiting members despite their misanthropy. In one conversation within a Skinner camp, one member appears to be reading out a book or a journal written in the poetic style of Evelyn Miller. Like Dutch, the original Skinner Brothers may too have faced mounting pressure, tragic setbacks and other hardships that has eventually driven their leadership and everyone within the gang insane and descend into unutopic savagery, repurposing their goal to instead destroy Civilization as a whole as opposed to living free from it. By RDR1, this was Dutch's philosophical standpoint, and why it seems that he has attracted remnants of the Skinner gang to the reiterated VDLG.
Some say the dead sports team were killed by Edmund Lowrey Jr, the psychopath the player may encounter during the side quest American Dreams... Awesome video, your voice transmits wisdom and tranquility, and your videos look like documentaries!
I recently dusted off my PS4 and started playing this game again I’m continuously amazed by the amount of detail they put into this game. Just everything about this game. I may replay as soon as I reach 100%
The skinners and Murfrees made me so excited for undead nightmare 2. Our gang is far more likeable than much of the cast of the walking dead in my opinion, good balance of damsels in distress, useless yet likeable characters and enough heavy hitters to accomplish something.
I loved the editing in this video. I really liked the music that played when Otis Skinner was about to hang. That mixed with the flashes of what the skinner brothers did was put together beautifully
Online shows that the Skinner Brothers were in conflict with the locals of West Elizabeth just before the events of the main story, it appears that they hadn't yet gotten to the complete point of evil they're shown to be at in 1907 since you often find them in the middle of attacks and not after them. Interesting to point out also is that Flaco Hernandez seems to have a bone to pick with them as they're the occasional targets of his assassination missions. This could suggest that the Skinners and the rest of the Del Lobos have a feud going on, and it presumably also explains why they aren't encountered down in New Austin. I think the Chez Porter family might be connected to the Brothers in some way since one of the areas you can fight them for Flaco is their house. Anyway I thought it was worth just info-dumping there. As little lore there is to the Online portion of Red Dead 2, there's still some interesting nuggets to think about.
I remember that in Red Dead Online you can encounter random events in Ambarino involving the Skinner Brothers. I’d assume they originally used to operate up there before moving down to Tall Trees in West Elizabeth.
when I was camping after trying to farm some animals, a couple of the skinners came out of nowhere threatening to kill me. one of us walked away that night
7:15 I had this encounter. Accidentally let the guy die, but the woman survived. John asked "Ma'am, are you ok?" She walks up to the dead man, and responds with "We was just camping..." and begins to cry. If you choose the nice dialogue, John responds with "I'm so sorry" She responds "Please leave me alone". Don't know what happens if they both survive.
I’ve heard that the dead black water team was the work of a serial killer near valentine called Edmund lowery jr. you can find other victims of him throughout the map and if you catch and kill him as Arthur, you won’t find the dead team
I love videos like this. Exploring the depths of RDR2’s world. Some of the best environmental story telling in gaming. Every random corpse, burned structure or broken wagon has more behind it than what meets the eye
I came across that second encounter late one night while riding through the area. It was storming hard and pitch black. I had found a little cabin to hide out in but I kept hearing these screams coming from outside. I finally built up the courage to investigate, and followed the sound through the rain to the dying man. That whole sequence was probably the scariest I had in the game. Got the hell out of there ASAP.
The Skinner Brothers remind me of myself ingame, brutally killing, burning, poisoning, giving all types of death to the innocent. The only exceptions are special npcs, like Mickey (I just couldn't kill him, he's nice), Joe Butler (He's a good guy), Grizzled Jon (idk, I just feel like sparing him), etc. Also, I spare every gang I come across (if they don't attack me. I do attack them sometimes, though it is because I felt bloodthirsty and I didn't want to have the law bugging me), because I relate to them: Brutal, Merciless, Triggerhappy.
There's also another encounter if anyone hasn't mentioned but when riding in the tall trees you can find a man riddled with arrows riding his horse and someone riding along will comment on it.
That was some of your best work there, Mr Fizhy. As good as any real-world true crime documentary and twice as entertaining. More like this please? Outstanding sir! Truly top notch. 👍
1:55 During my time playing the epilogue, I came across this event near Beecher's hope, but riding a little further past it I found the second horse, dead from all of the arrows.
For the first encounter, I went down the road the wagon came from and found the second horse dead with a few arrows sticking out of it. It was about half way between the wagon and tall trees. It looks like it pulled the wagon a distance, then kicked the bucket.
If you shoot the Survivor you Gain honor.
Mercy kill.
Yeah I did that as well
Lord Shaxx - really? but it would make sense... so thx for that :)
Yeah you actually hear John saying something along the lines of 'It'll all be over soon' before the mercy kill
@@reuben7705 ikr the details are so cool. I put a clean revolver round through the poor dude's skull to put him out of his misery.
Slow but merciful
The Skinners are just all the people who got bored of having high honor during endgame
Basically, or they are tired of everyone pointing guns at them for no reason even when they have high honour
The two of you literally summarized what I did in the game, I actually started striving towards low honor because I was bored.
XD
Lol. I tried 3 different times to play as an asshole but I feel bad every damn time. I know it's stupid, it shouldnt really matter but for some reason I cant do it.
@@私の名前を翻訳しないでください I'm sure most people did. You save a ton of money and no longer need the discounts and you're pretty heavily armed by that point and probably have a good idea on how to get away from the law (I got so bored of it that I started robbing places in saint denis because that's the hardest place to get away if you do it in the middle of the city
9:35 From this moment on, I never gave Uncle a hard time for being "lazy." He survived being slowly cooked alive, and that shit hurts. Probably a lot more than his "lumbago."
Prolly gave him lumbago
Idk man, lumbago seems pretty serious to me
After saving him he went straight to work with his expose wound on the sun lol
That pain went away, the lumbago stayed.
The skinner’s were just trying to cure uncles lumbago.
Sheriff : "alright here is your $90 bounty"
John with $981,854.72 : "I'll take it..."
@Teriller finish the whole game and then come back
Fred gary watch the video , he literally has over $980,000
Teriller there’s money cheats you can do that get you 500 each time I’m pretty sure but you can’t save your game afterwards
Frr😩😂
@@badussy there's a glitch actually. you have to use the $500 cheat before the mission "Angelo Bronte, A Man of Honor" because when you finish that mission, it will go straight to the gang partying with Jack and automatically saves your game even with cheats. They haven't patched it yet
The scalped dying man’s voice actor is underrated what a bone chilling performance
Facts
I would give a like to this comment, but I do not wish to ruin the perfect number on it
edit: dammit someone ruined it...
why must people ruin all the fun?
@@-TheOutlander- don't cry
Even John's voice cracked a bit. I legit goes full Skinner Hunter after encounter that Scalped Man. One of the most emotional part in the game imo
I can sometimes let the O’Driscolls slide but for the Lemoyne Raiders, Murfree Brood and Skinner Brothers it’s on sight.
Damn, master chief, you go from 2560 to 1907 only to kills old gangs?
The odriscolls are contemporary outlaws. They Audibly announce when they’re robbing you, and warn you to stay away from their camps if you get too close. The worst I’ve seen them do is ambush me just outside valentine. But it wasn’t even particularly fierce. Just 3 dudes with rifles, announcing their presence, then shooting at me. The others?
Johnny Reb shoots innocents in public just outside of the capital, and Lynches black people. Also loves the N word.
Murfree brood are just downright cavemen.
And the skinners? You can see firsthand.
@@cactusmanofdestiny3708 yea true. The O Driscolls (I don’t care if I spelt the name wrong lol) are kinda like us in a way (and by us I mean our gang)
@@airhorn07 I mean, colm? Yeah he’s a bad man. But at least he doesn’t abduct women to r@pe and then kill them. Or shoot innocent civilians in public as a show of strength. Or all of the shit skinners do. All colm does is rob trains and abduct rival gang members. He even said it himself. After he’s got Dutch in chains, it’s over. He’s gonna leave.
I love UA-cam censorship. Fuck off, Susan.
Screw the O’Driscoll’s they killed Kieran
This game doesn’t help my name one bit :(
It shouldn't though, unless you have multiple male siblings.
Oof
Savage
Don’t hurt me plz
Devin C there could be more in the world but to my knowledge theres only two of us
Someone at Rockstar needs a hug. For real.
Let's just give the whole of Rockstar a hug, show them our thanks
Edit: Lmao nah nvm
Hugs don't fix sadism.
Frustratid lol why did this mane edit
@@hasanhaitham276 true story kekw
@@Fantiphyscoticsallmyhomiesgone Online those notherfuckers ruined online
These Skinner Brothers make the O'Driscolls look like angels
The Nite Folk make the Skinners look like a bunch of 10 year olds.
@@LoudaroundLincoln Nah, Skinners are way worse than the Night Folk.
Night Folk are savages, not too civilized people. They set traps, yeah, but at least they give a quick death to their victims, and they probably use them for rituals or something, not for fun
But the Skinners kills people not because of money, not because of pride, not because of revenge, they kill people because they like to.
And the worse part, is that they torture their victims.
Sorry if my english sucks. :(
@@evangelicae_rationis my buddy have you seen the pagan rituals that nightfolk do?
@@evangelicae_rationis the skinner brothers are basically just a gang of serial killers right?
@@evangelicae_rationis Os murfree broods de uma certa forma são piores
I hunted them down as John Marston for about 4 in game days. Found all of their camps and random encounters and slaughtered them like the pigs they are. They were too close to beachers hope for my comfort.
Cousin Family I mainly slaughter the skinners and leave the murfrees alone because I feel bad for them, all they want to do is protect there hills.
@@sergeantmajorgross4461 they do satanic shit in the caves and when you go in there in one misson a murfee resurrects a dead person and when you kill him the body drops with him.
@@skankhunt-zh8ky btw if you go back to the cave where the gang was at the end as John the Murfrees are back in the caves
Thank you
Responsible family man
The horse at the start with the arrows in I found in my game one I cleaned him up and made him my main horse eventually we went to get revenge on them and found them killed them all
Mr Toxic you’re a good man Mr Toxic
npc horses always suck though
Nah I aint sacrificing my arabian for that
Mr Toxic I got buell as my main horse, but I feel bad for making him wear the boar skin saddle until I realized my mistake
Mr Toxic your name is misleading
One of my favorite memories from my first play through was encountering the wagon with a dead driver being pulled by a wounded horse, a female white Nokota. I cut her loose, rode her into the Blackwater stables to get her cleaned up and healed, and renamed her “Revenant”. She was my horse through the latter half of the epilogue, eventually getting to level 4 bonding. I made a point of using her during every Skinner Brothers bounty, and attended Otis Skinner’s hanging with her. It just felt like the right thing to do.
Good guy
great horses. The Mustangs are great too.
I thought I was only one that cherished my black jack the horse Hosea gives you on that bear hunt mission
Haha I'm doing the same :) nice too see this
I never expected to watch a documentary about a gang in a videogame. The fact that this is possible, just shows how amazing this game is
😲
R* has a lot of documentary about gangs in different games
5
Its called lore lmao
@@Roman-yg2bf paaaaaaag 🤙
I can't be the only one who freed the injured horse, took it to the stables, nursed it back to health and kept it.
Sameeeee
same bro I just did it I found 2 I killed the all leaders del lobos and the Skinner's are next
@Salty Spider Atleast the horse is in the stable's care now.
bro i freed it and then i fed it and then cleaned it and then gave him some health and then i selled him 😅
I did too.
Sad the man that was scalped that even being as injured as he was he was still worried about a stranger and telling him to run away because they could still be near.
Humans: *Exist*
Skinner Brothers: "Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!"
Then earth gets wiped out and the skinners turn vegan and brutally murder carrots
Nice lotr refernce
The Skinners don't eat people, they just murder. The Murfree, however...
@@prosimian Are you sure? I think they've skinned people so that usually means they eat them.
@@demonwolf570 I kinda doubt they do eat them, since they remove organs and body parts from most of their victims, and the organs or parts that were removed can be found around.
I’ve hated the damn Skinners ever since they killed Willard Wayne in that epilogue mission. Might sound crazy, but I vowed to kill every Skinner in West Elizabeth, to avenge him
Its not crazy, it's heroic slaughtering world bound demons. They lost their morals and humanity when they acted out on their garbage drives.
Like me and the murfree brood. I might install the game just to hunt them again.
@@Remoniq "I might install the game."
*Tell me the reason you uninstalled the game.*
@@vinizin8291 I needed the space on my PC for other games. Now I regret it. I should have said reintall the game, my fault. for that gang need a good hunting. Heck If someone said for the online game said "we hunt Murfree" I would reinstall it for that!
Same here, had to avenge him for his family that he'll never return to. He gave his life for us to go back to Jack and Abigail, so I'm With you and went on to destroy them and catch Otis Skinner and others to kick em in teeth
I like to imagine that Dutch came into the tall trees region and just wiped out the skinner brothers there so he could set up shop
There are lots of indians in the skinner bros. Maybe he took over in Otis' stead.
Yeah I'm convinced he just stepped into someone's shoes with the Skinners.
Or he convinced them to join him.
@@mapleflag6518 Doesnt really suit his character, guy managed to be as fast as Micah with gun so I think he was most likely camping there, took them out/scared them and then boom its his domain.
@@ExtremeMan10 You forget that Dutch is the same guy who ordered Bill to geld someone.
This explains the dead horses that I come across with arrows in them.
I never knew that it was them. Playing as John I was like tf is this and I thought it was some little secret
@@AA-bz1pr Yeah I was coming from Blackwater headed back to Beecher's Hope and came across it.
I came across one that was still living but had a arrow in it was Surprised it was still living I believe it was a nokota horse I may have spelt it wrong
@@TheBoomBoxGuru Wtf lol
I thought the scalpings and arrows in wagons were all from the natives cause I've been ambushed by a group of them before, until I met the Skinner's then I started thinking otherwise
I realize the Devs had to inflate numbers to make the encounters challenging, but if you add up the numbers you kill throughout these encounters, the Skinners could have easily ridden down as a group and wiped out Blackwater.
Absolutely, they respawning every time in Tall Trees
Yeah that's pretty much the case for every gang/group of enemies in the game. It kinda takes away the immersion when Arthur/John have to kill a small army basically every mission.
@@MrZomBie775 To be fair, honestly emulating how hard and intense "squad" combat is within a video game would be nigh on impossible, and also impossible for +90% of gamers to play against. From everything my Veteran friends tell me, the stupidest IRL enemy is 100 times more dangerous than any NPC, and because of game mechanics, even PVP player opponents don't really stack up, or they stack up too well. Anyway, immersion is a bit dinged up when you have killed literally thousands of people by the end of the story.
I think that, while the numbers are inflated, they’re less inflated than you may think. None of the gangs are stupid, they know that if they literally wiped out an entire town they would get the government on their tail, and they wouldn’t last long after that. Look what happened to our gang. All we did was rob a few banks and the pinkertons relentlessly hunted us down. Imagine the response if we had sacked one or more of the towns. We wouldn’t have had the many conversations we had with Milton, because he would have killed us all ASAP.
@@Aplesedjr Good points. In fact there were several "Range Wars" in the old west that ended up quite like that. One side got too big for their britches and ended up being hunted down. If anyone deserved to meet the Skinners it was Milton.
I always got a laugh how the enemy gangs develop. At first it's just a rival group of outlaws. Then it's bitter old war vets. Then it's inbred cannibals. Then it's another group of masochists. And finally, just some dudes in Mexico haha
Wich gang is the old war vets
@@OSDY.5Vvs
The Lemoyne Raiders. At least their oldest and top guys are
O’Driscoll’s, Lemoyne Raiders, Murfree Brood, (Skinner brothers?) and Del Lobos
Don’t forget about the creepy Night Folk
@@lefdeeI think some of them used to fight for the Confederacy.
>walk up to a guy in his own camp and threaten him with a knife
>walk away with your back to him after he shows no real fear
Do all the skinners just share one brain cell, or?
They all share the same mark I always leave them when they do try.
With a bullet in the back of their head.
Funny Valentine Did Nothing Wrong I throw a Molotov on one and then tackled and stabbed the other it was lovely
Right when they were about to leave I fucking grabbed my gun and shot them in the head and then lit their bodies on fire
One braincell and one chromosome, presumably
Probably, yeah. Which is why they join up with dutch after you kick their asses saving uncle.
"unfortunately I was too late to save this gent"
Literaly was watching the skinners harrass hin for 30 seconds from a bit of a distance.
I was gonna say the same thing
Might as well get the popcorn and take a seat
Killing skinner/murfee brothers is one of my favorite things to do in rdr2 . I completed the game with high honor & im only killed bandits, gangs, robbers in the entire game😌
Noice
@arthur Morgan what a phycopath 😂
@micah Bell fan who hurt you
@lumbago hey i do the exact same things. i go and catch random people on the roads, hogtie them, take them to lakay, pleasance or limpany or any such abandoned town and torture them and finally drown them in the nearest water source
@lumbago a lot of blood comes out of them while drowning. Also varmint rifle one shots on the face so it isnt worth it. Small game arrow takes 3 or 4 arrows to the face to kill so it prolongs the suffering
I remember getting ambushed by skinners I remember killing them all and the last one I threw my lasso at him and kept running with my horse while he kept screaming never felt more satisfied
HAHAHA
Good man
Bro... 😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍😂👍👍👍
Godamn, calm down Homer
Easy there, Satan
"its alright. you're... alright, they're all gone. Just go to sleep, now..." that made me tear up a little
Jivy Vitruvian pussy
Handsome Squidward DUDE! I literally was like “what if somebody just called him a pussy” and then I saw your comment😂😂
Really? That's kinda sad tbh
I didn’t tear up but I did feel a bit bad for the dude, shitty way to go, but hey, could have been worse
No it didn’t.
Imagine a game having so much background stories and mysteries that there could literally be multiple games made from it.
If you take Elias Greene alive he says he’ll bite you, and John will say “you bette damn not.” For some reason I just found that really funny.
Same! 😂
there's also hidden dialogue when you take his hat
@@cwood4403 yeah i’ve gotten that too haha
@@niallkquinn4458 what is it?
Elias: I'll bite you
John: no
Elias: understandable, have a nice day
"Mr Skinner to the Sheriffs Office, the Sheriffs Office Mr Skinner."
Nice 👍
MidnighWolf love that movie
the greater good
Yarp
No luck cathing them killers then?
they're terrifying, every time I had a mission close or in tall trees I was always on edge and scared
13:24 “I was just to late to save this gent”
*watches him beg for his life for like 30 seconds
"Maybe we should pick up torture?"
"Nah, we got Uncle' singing."
All part of the LuMbAgo
Uncles singing was done by the original actor of him, who died during development. O'Creigh's run is named after him.
Thomas Johnson ya I let her say Now what is that?
Dude the skinners sneaking up behind you while you camp is terrifying. Good thing I never camp so they ain’t gonna catch me lackin’!
That's the last time they surprised me...
There are quite a few of these encounter that are somewhat creepy,you would not expect such thing happen while you are in "camping mode"The Murfree's do that too when you camp in their terittory for the first time and then there's that creepy lady that comes and aks if she can warm herself up at your camp fire while talking crazy stuff
Game: this mission is called “uncles bad day”
Me who just shot, burned, cut, and utterly slaughtered all of the skinners: Bad seems a little f-cking light
What happens if you kill all the skinners before the mission?
@@kimbaldun nothing. The skinners are still going to show up
The skinners should have been an Indian tribe. Rockstar is playing it to safe.
@@BlackPhillip666 They do include Indians in their ranks.
Wish the Skinners had a hideout…maybe Cocchinay?
My mans still out here putting spoiler warnings 2 Years after it came out. You are a saint. Thank you from the people who got the ending spoiled for them by people back when it came out.
Really though? I mean, 2 years later...if someone hasn't even played the story at this point yet, why the heck are you still watching videos about the world and lore of the game?
Devin C someone may have just gotten the game and are looking for red dead 2 content
Devin C he’s just sayin it was spoiled for em when it first came out like what happened to me as well. He’s just thankin the content creator for generally showing enough respect to put a spoiler warning even 2 years after. If more ppl would do this the less we’d have everything spoiled right off the hop just because UA-cam recommends it. 😭
Devin C Because UA-cam’s recommendation feed is broken.
Devin C some we’re waiting for the PC release which is much more recent. If you’re working 70 hours a week and doing maybe a mission a day at best as I did, the story is a beast to get through. Worth it, but a beast all the same.
The skinner brothers are to me the most disturbing part of the game and had me more creeped out than the cult in outlast 2
Have you come across the night folk in the marshes yet ?
@@scd3987 tbh night folk are nothing compare to Murfrees and skinners they are the most satanic people you definitely don’t wanna get capture by them
@@scd3987 Creepy bastards
Murfrees are worse if you ask me
The cult in oultast 2 were fucking boring as shit, only marta was scary. The heretics on the other hand were near nightmare fuel but all of them paled in comparison to loutermilch demon
I have the platinum trophy for RDR2 but had never seen the athletes' mass grave, that has to be one of the most disturbing things I've seen in this game.
The Blackwater Athletics wasn't the work of the Skinners: Too smooth and too silent, because they've been asphyxiated and the bodies are well hidden. The Skinners are arrogant and want to be noticed and they are much, much more brutal, putting the bodies on public display.
Jorge Bersabe that was the work of a serial killer in the game. Saw a video on it a few months back
It's a real life event watch the strange man video
bluetxsla that’s a great catch by you if true
@Easy Eis the serial killer that you have to hunt down ist the murderer of the athletics team, you can find evidence in his basement
After I hogtied Elias Green, I took his sweet hat and wore it to his execution. Good times....
Ravore 24 haha yeah I had it on when I brought him into the sheriff offixe
I hanged Elias green myself with the lasso
@@aaronl221 how do you do that?
*bypasses the choice of duel-wielding revolvers and uses one*
“Oops, only one bullet”
Happened too many times man
it's the LeMat, he was using the underbarrel shotgun
Scooter brothers! Wait, wrong game.
It's finally here.
We are brothers on scooters
@Bored Again gta
@@Axeltakeslz which gta
@@tracyrae4854gta 5 its happens randomly when u switch to trevor
Skinners: we'll kill you next time
Me: I'll kill you this time
That was a badass line. I’d like to see The Punisher use that.
10:14
This is one aspect I like about John's character, he tries to understand people, and make sense of what they're doing; even if said people are sadistic nihilists.
What makes you think they're nihilists?
@@oefa12892They stand for nothing. Why would they kill people for fun unless their lives mean nothing to them?
The same camping encounter happened to me, I was really scared, Then I saw that one of them had a missouri Fox Trotter
*All Hell Broke loose after that*
@ANDRIA MIKAVA Micah's, I got it too, I think I still have it, haven't checked in a while
@@adddddwait what really ? can you stable the horse? Can you make a video on it
@@adddddwait it's probably a Kentucky saddler who u mistook for a Missouri foxtrotter
@@nihaalsandim9986 7 in speed 5 in accel my g
@@adddddwait i don't think thats possible unless its a mod no npc has a Missouri fxt and idk any way how u can use micahs horse
Enemy gang: exists
Semi-automatic shotgun and bolt-action rifle: Allow us to introduce ourselves
I like to use a little thing called Molotovs, the only fitting way to kill these animals
Semi auto shotgun with slugs is the meta
semi auto with shells aiming to the arms/feet
@@Karzipp Incendiary weapons and ammo to the non-lethal areas. The hit won’t kill them but the fire will.
Reddit
The atrocities that the skinners commit are the kinda things you read about in Blood Meridian
There's also a Judge easter egg somewhere in the game
@@4lfie- late to the show, but it's at Compson's Stead. When you go to get the old bastard's items, you find it has been foreclosed on the orders of a Judge Meredith Holden
If Uncle died to the skinners Id be all
"Looks like I gotta be the Judge himself...just for now..."
That faint picture of Dutch flashing in the background when you mentioned that Tall Trees won't be safe from future terrors...chills. 21:07
Fizhy's videos are insanely underrated. His editing and story telling abilities in videogames is very good. i wish this channel had more recognition
Fizhy: Shows brutal images of people that has gotten tortured.
*Gets 3 midrolls*
it isn't real
I actually found the missing horse from the wagon. I stopped the wagon and freed the first horse (keeping it for myself) and when riding to Beecher’s hope, I came across the horse. It was dead with a bunch of arrows in it’s body. Poor thing
Whenever I see the Skinner boys, I go crazy every time it’s shoot on sight.
I like playing little in game games on rdr like for instance I'll load up just to spend like an in game week just doing work around the farm then at like 6pm in game time I'll ride down to blackwater buy a drink and read the newspaper for a bit then ride back and sleep to reaer the day anyway one of these was making john a notorious bounty hunter and I ran into skinners torturing a woman I then proceeded to kill all of them before they could react
@@edudmodnar9137 I used to do the same type of stuff lol
I like to make the skinners suffer just as much as they made their victims suffer, mostly by drowning them or slowly removing each limb with a shotgun
Seeing these people suffer and bleed is more haunting when you know how it would actually look in real life
😬
My highschool janitor turned out to be a murderer who raped and killed the girls in my school and one of the people he killed was my best friend so I fucking beat the guy half to death
@@edudmodnar9137 You sure about that buddy seems pretty cap 🧐
@@Keepitpushnn Dont worry, let him live his fantasy
@@edudmodnar9137 doubt
13:25 him: Its seems that i was too late to save this gentleman.
Also him: **Stands his ground. Without doing anything for over 10 seconds**
9:33 they were trying to cure his lumbago
By putting him out of his misery
Step 1) apply heat.
Step 2) *A G O N Y*
Step 3) Put some barbecue sauce on him
@@Liam-jc5qp Step 4)profit
wow, seymour skinners ancestry is really messed up
Original Username how
At least Seymour is not a deranged and sadistic psychopath, unlike Otis Skinner and his brother.
@@jorgebersabe293 true, true. my apologies
@@kyomdrift4319 Sure, the Principal has PTSD from Vietnam and has killed people, but that was killing out of survival, not out of pleasure. Otis Skinner and his brother however, they are unhinged psychopaths who kill for fun.
Don't worry, I wasn't offended in any form, just saying.
@@vestty5802 Well, Otis Skinner and his brother are deranged, unhinged and sadistic psychos who kill for fun, that's how its messed up.
This video is just absolutely brilliant. From your in-game cinematography to the story telling. You really set the tone and atmosphere of the Skinner Brothers with a bit of your charm. Great video from beginning to end. Really admirable :)
17:44 Holy Lumbago, you need to clean your revolver, fella.
Tobi Preuschoff yes
It’s so dirty
ITS A RUST BUCKET FULL OF SCREWS "go brush that horse officer" "ok"
Wtf revolver is this. I dont recognize it.
@@760Miramar It's the LeMat revolver. It came into SP with an update along with the M1899 Pistol and the Evans Repeater. Before this, those weapons were Online only.
Everytime I encounter a Skinner I hogtie one of them then leave them in swamps for the nightfolk or the Gators to get them but I usually blow their heads off 😂
@Lucas it's worth it tho
I tried feeding them to wolves using bait around them. Unfortunately, the wolves just attack me instead.
I always question their steamed hams.
U mean the murfee gang
Emo Peter Parker you go from tall trees all the way to the bayou just for that
"i dont feel much like defying this police chief, he has very frightening cheek bones" the best line i have ever heard
The Skinner Brothers seems to be the 'evil' version of the original Van Der Linde Gang. The Skinners almost mirror Dutch's mode of operation and philosophy before his descent into madness.
As explained within RDR2 lore, Dutch's vision was to create a 'Savage Utopia' free of the controlling grip of civilization. His gang have long travelled westwards to hopefully settle within the open plains. This appears to be the strategy of the Skinners, moving to Tall Trees probably with the intent to settle on the Great Plains prior to John Marston and his posse's arrival.
Certain members of the Skinners seem to be the equivalent to members of the VDLG. Elias Green is a hot-headed enforcer who seems act as a reflection of Micah/Bad Arthur and as a contrast to Good Arthur. Whereas Otis Skinner is an educated, eloquently spoken leader of the gang, very similar to Dutch or Hosea in that regard.
Note that the Skinners appear have been around for as long if not longer than VDLG. It was possible that the Skinners may too have started as a band of idealists that took the writing's of Evelyn Miller to heart, hence the Skinner's preference of staying within the wilderness and their interesting inclusivity when it comes to recruiting members despite their misanthropy. In one conversation within a Skinner camp, one member appears to be reading out a book or a journal written in the poetic style of Evelyn Miller.
Like Dutch, the original Skinner Brothers may too have faced mounting pressure, tragic setbacks and other hardships that has eventually driven their leadership and everyone within the gang insane and descend into unutopic savagery, repurposing their goal to instead destroy Civilization as a whole as opposed to living free from it.
By RDR1, this was Dutch's philosophical standpoint, and why it seems that he has attracted remnants of the Skinner gang to the reiterated VDLG.
very well said boss
Yeah the superficial similarity is there but I doubt that they are more than just a bunch of psychotic inbreds.
Dead Caliph A+ on ur English essay
Not to mention angry natives possibly remnants of the Wapiti Indians
Tldr
I put the first guy out of his misery and got honor points for it.
Some say the dead sports team were killed by Edmund Lowrey Jr, the psychopath the player may encounter during the side quest American Dreams... Awesome video, your voice transmits wisdom and tranquility, and your videos look like documentaries!
This is an old video, he actually does acknowledge exactly that in his Edmund video
I recently dusted off my PS4 and started playing this game again I’m continuously amazed by the amount of detail they put into this game. Just everything about this game. I may replay as soon as I reach 100%
Cid get it on pc :)
Qwertz I got my PC after my PS4 annndd Idk I don’t want to buy 2 copies of the same game 😅 but I know the graphics are better on PC
I need to get back into it too. Stopped at chapter 3.
Bruh I stopped the game at chapter 3 like a year ago until 2 weeks ago where I played it and finished it
People hate on online. But it's definitely fun once you get the hang of it. There's guns,horses and missioms that aren't in story mode
Man the chief looks terrifying but he's nice and sweet
🤨
Yep
You are very concerning
Petition for a dlc where we can join the skinner brothers
@@revthescatman137 The chief of police in Blackwater
2:11 just like to add, you can actually find the other horse. It spawns dead within a few metres of the first. Covered in arrows, as you can imagine
Your editing and dedication is phenomenal my friend.
You should do a mission on the del Lobo's as they seem kinda interstiing
There isnt much with the lobos unfortunately unless you play online also, most badass gang I've seen too.
Most of them are in the desert there are bunch of Mexicans
They mexicans trying fight sheriff freeman you ca get more details from him in tumbleed
Even though it's a videogame, still all this imagery of all the disembowled, beheaded corpses looks gruesome af.
John comforting the guy on his death bed was so nice imo
"That does not immunize the region from future terrors"
*Inserts pic of Dutch*
Well Dutchs gang were mostly Native American with some whites and at least they killed people with bullets and not like this
The skinners and Murfrees made me so excited for undead nightmare 2. Our gang is far more likeable than much of the cast of the walking dead in my opinion, good balance of damsels in distress, useless yet likeable characters and enough heavy hitters to accomplish something.
21:08 Nice fade in of Dutch, I really liked that. A somber reminder of the psychopath he became by 1911
I loved the editing in this video. I really liked the music that played when Otis Skinner was about to hang. That mixed with the flashes of what the skinner brothers did was put together beautifully
Online shows that the Skinner Brothers were in conflict with the locals of West Elizabeth just before the events of the main story, it appears that they hadn't yet gotten to the complete point of evil they're shown to be at in 1907 since you often find them in the middle of attacks and not after them. Interesting to point out also is that Flaco Hernandez seems to have a bone to pick with them as they're the occasional targets of his assassination missions. This could suggest that the Skinners and the rest of the Del Lobos have a feud going on, and it presumably also explains why they aren't encountered down in New Austin. I think the Chez Porter family might be connected to the Brothers in some way since one of the areas you can fight them for Flaco is their house.
Anyway I thought it was worth just info-dumping there. As little lore there is to the Online portion of Red Dead 2, there's still some interesting nuggets to think about.
AzelfandQuilava
Online isn’t cannon although it is interesting and has some good information
Woods5133 bruh online is very much cannon it slides in very shortly after blackwater heist
@@Bellee702 Online is long before the blackwater heist
@@laurenz2426 no its just after, sean is hiding out around blackwater and you can even meet him and get missions from him
@@Woods-he4lx I agree online doesn't seem canon too me
I remember that in Red Dead Online you can encounter random events in Ambarino involving the Skinner Brothers. I’d assume they originally used to operate up there before moving down to Tall Trees in West Elizabeth.
Loved these documentary style videos. The editing is really good too
when I was camping after trying to farm some animals, a couple of the skinners came out of nowhere threatening to kill me. one of us walked away that night
some times I purposely camp out there to kill the sobs
And it sure as hell wasnt me 😔
7:15 I had this encounter. Accidentally let the guy die, but the woman survived.
John asked "Ma'am, are you ok?"
She walks up to the dead man, and responds with "We was just camping..." and begins to cry.
If you choose the nice dialogue, John responds with "I'm so sorry"
She responds "Please leave me alone".
Don't know what happens if they both survive.
They hug each other, thank you and leave.
That ending though, props dude! It makes killing them that much more satisfying, like a western Punisher of sorts.
3:23
My heart has stopped at this moment
If you shoot that guy you gain honor
I’ve heard that the dead black water team was the work of a serial killer near valentine called Edmund lowery jr. you can find other victims of him throughout the map and if you catch and kill him as Arthur, you won’t find the dead team
Thanks for the fun fact! I stopped Edmund Lowery Jr., and am so happy I never spotted the Blackwater Sports Team dead
"I was just too late"... you... you watched it happen.
I love videos like this. Exploring the depths of RDR2’s world. Some of the best environmental story telling in gaming. Every random corpse, burned structure or broken wagon has more behind it than what meets the eye
I came across that second encounter late one night while riding through the area. It was storming hard and pitch black. I had found a little cabin to hide out in but I kept hearing these screams coming from outside. I finally built up the courage to investigate, and followed the sound through the rain to the dying man. That whole sequence was probably the scariest I had in the game. Got the hell out of there ASAP.
Can we take a second to appreciate how much he does for these videos
13:29
I brought every bounty alive , I don't know why… They give you interesting dialogue and you can watch them hang (that's probably why I did it)
The Skinner Brothers remind me of myself ingame, brutally killing, burning, poisoning, giving all types of death to the innocent. The only exceptions are special npcs, like Mickey (I just couldn't kill him, he's nice), Joe Butler (He's a good guy), Grizzled Jon (idk, I just feel like sparing him), etc.
Also, I spare every gang I come across (if they don't attack me. I do attack them sometimes, though it is because I felt bloodthirsty and I didn't want to have the law bugging me), because I relate to them: Brutal, Merciless, Triggerhappy.
^FBI it's this guy
Instead of steaming hams they went for the scalps.
Zeldamaniac14 this deserves more recognition
That's how they do it in West Albany
I mean, they did steam uncles hams
I love getting immersed in this game's world. So much attention to detail makes a lot of even static wilderness interesting.
There's also another encounter if anyone hasn't mentioned but when riding in the tall trees you can find a man riddled with arrows riding his horse and someone riding along will comment on it.
That was some of your best work there, Mr Fizhy. As good as any real-world true crime documentary and twice as entertaining. More like this please? Outstanding sir! Truly top notch. 👍
You know just by looking at everything about them...
They wouldn't be out of place in a Manhunt Game...
1:55 During my time playing the epilogue, I came across this event near Beecher's hope, but riding a little further past it I found the second horse, dead from all of the arrows.
This be sounding like a true crime documentary lmfao xD
For the first encounter, I went down the road the wagon came from and found the second horse dead with a few arrows sticking out of it. It was about half way between the wagon and tall trees. It looks like it pulled the wagon a distance, then kicked the bucket.
Saddest thing about the Scalped Man encounter is that you gain Honor for killing him, as if you're putting him out of his misery.
These guys and the Murfrees basically behave like orcs and goblins to me.
The murfrees are basically described as animals in human bodies, the skinner brothers are just sadist that take pleasure in what they do
SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS!
I love your covering characters, gangs, locations, history, etc in the game, it shows how really dedicated you are about this game
They spared me for one reason only.
*My lumbago*
I think they were trying to cure it
One of the best videos I have ever seen, loved it Fizhy, keep it up!!
I always play John as a very high honor character so it’s very heatwarming to see him comfort that dying guy.
Love this guy