Still got the 3k from the day you made the video. Bought one of the last ones in stock. Works great on 4 days a week with1.5 hours of commuting per day. Its been slammin my xfl 10 now got the skar evl 15 to see how it takes it. Thank you for the videos to help us find a great deals.
@@dopenvyyify So far so good. Sounds good and pounds pretty hard. Not pushing it yet. Still breaking it in. We will see how long it lasts. Got a great deal on the sub and box used from skar with a 1 year so I will let it eat soon.
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Many of my amp went into PROTECT when used over 15.0V... The protection happen once the output power release and then the voltage rise back and trigger the protect mode.
It could also be due to the fact that the amp is being loaded resistively with static test signals, so there isn't any of the dynamic loudspeaker impedance to limit the current or the relatively low average to peak power seen with music. That combined with the impulsive nature of the test signal itself could be enough to cause the power supply rail voltages to momentarily sag enough to trip the protection circuitry. Although the fact that it does it with all the resistive loads means it could be something on the input side of the amp that's putting it into protect because some threshold has been exceeded. Be interesting to see if they ever chime in as to why.
Although if he has any capacitors to help out the batteries that potentially could do it since there could be enough stray inductance to cause ringing in the power cables with the dynamic test.
Sounds like a server turning on. I wonder if replacing the stock fans with something like a Noctua NF-A4x10 would quiet it down at all (assuming they're a 40mm fan).
Noctua fans are almost certainly not going to push enough air. What is actually needed here is to install a simple ebay Temperature controller module, so the fans only kick in when it gets warm.
@@johncoops6897 Fan controller and maybe diy a shroud to control the airflow inside the amp, a lot of that airflow must be just passing through without actually hitting components. Maybe route air from the existing fans to only the sides of the amp, then add a noctua in a void somewhere mid span to keep enough airflow to make the board components happy.
Wow! That's some crazy power for the $! Holy moly! Ya have to spend some in electrical, but talk about bang for the buck! That Rockford you sent makes me smile everytime I listen to it! Thanks big buddy!
@@christopherparis6841 I didn't miss it! The Orion splx and dz series are strait beast when it comes to watt to dollar ratio and sheer output. I definitely remember the sundown being an underperforming turd on that shootout as well.
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Great video BigD. Nice job testing amp. Did you make a vid on the power bank? Curious how that is made. It sounds like a jet plane with those fans. Kinda cool.
I have a feeling the amp doesn’t like the static load from the dyno. Speakers are providing a dynamic load and I’m guessing that’s why it doesn’t go into protect with subs.
Thanks for the video dereck! Video summary goes as follows. 12.6 volts, 2317w rms @ 4 ohm Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 1158w / 80% efficiency, which is good. ✅ Rated power. 12.6 volts, 3760w rms @ 2 ohm Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 1880w / 74.3% efficiency aight, almost good ✅ Rated power. 12.6 volts, 5,216w rms @ 1 ohm Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 2608w / 75.4% efficiency aight, almost good ✅ Rated power
I'm using the same am with a different brand name (powerbass 30000w)... Amazing... Although I'm on stock electricals, the protection hick ups are real bro ... Still happy anyways
Noel Medina is this the first amp you've seen that resembles another amp on the market? If you'll pay attention you'll start to notice that there aren't that many different amp designs. So many come from the same exact buildhouse & have just been "rebadged" per buyers request. Look at how many different Korean amps look similar to one another.
@Winston Pratt seems more companies would wanna spend the extra few bucks, break the mold. Start designing and then send their designs out for build. They'd have a unique amp & probably gain loyal customers to make it all worthwhile. I could be completely wrong on all of that but I know that if I saw an amp that I loved the appearance of I would consider buying it so long as it performed well & had a good board, internal parts to go with it.
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Rebadging is not as common as many people think. There are many build houses and they copy the basic design, but there are many small differences. Some higher or lower in quality and different small features.
I’ve hooked up many of the full bridge DB, sound digital, and taramps on 16volt yinlong banks. Ran the amps at .5-.67 ohm and zero issues. Yes I’m aware after rise I’m around 2 ohm. Sometimes higher. Obviously these are low voltage amps. That protect issue is weird. Great power.
U shouldnt have any problems running 0.33ohm connection either. It doesnt matter how u wire ur elements when ur real impedance is around rated where amp is stable. I hate people saying shit in internet like "been running 0.25 all day long with no issues" meanwhile after rise real impedance for example is around 1ohm
@@iSCOPEXZatec I have a DB aak 20,000.1 wired at about .21. It rises to about 1.2, and clamps around 20k. Protects sometimes, but rarely. Wired at 1 on speakers it’s like 7k amp because it rises to 4. Lol. So I completely get what you’re saying.
Awesome.. thanks for your work man. You are appreciated. I will keep checking , but it would be mighty kind of you if you would update us on what bully says they THINK could be the issue?!.. thanks again big d
as opposed to what, a screw driver in your mouth? Using the outside of the knob, with your fingers, is going to give you much finer grain control of the setting than using the middle of the knob, with a tool, think about it.
@@minus3dbintheteens60 I don’t need to think about it. I’ve installed and used enough amps and dsps to know that it’s a bad idea…as well as a board with those cheaper easily movable plastic potentiometers 🤢🤮 there’s a reason really nice equipment keeps em flush or below, metal, as well as requiring quite a bit more rotational force to set, keeping them immovable under excessive vibrations…you know..the environment of a vehicle.
Can you do a video on the VFL Comp 3k vs 4k amps? I want my setup to match so I've been looking at American Bass/ VFL amps to go with my subwoofer. I have a American Bass HD 12D2 with a Taramps Smart 3 currently. I don't want to go backwards with RMS watts. The VFL Comp 3k has a fuse rating of 200 amps (which seems small) 200A x 14.4V = 2,880W. The VFL Comp 4k has a fuse rating of 350 (150 amp fuse rating difference from 3k to 4k seems a little ridiculous) 350A x 14.4V = 5,040W. I have also looked at the VFL Stealth 5500.1 (rated 2,800 RMS on Amazon, HOWEVER, on website it says 250-2400 RMS). American Bass PH-4000 seems to be 2k RMS and that's apparently laughable (dynoed at 1,800). PLEASE HELP ME! I would like to run a FULL American Bass/VFL setup. If I cannot figure something out I believe I will just buy a Teampie 4k
In retrospect, it's probably a good thing I didn't have this amp in the early 90s. I am already nearly deaf in my right ear and I am pretty sure my 1977 maverick with two 125 amp alternators and a couple of deep cycles in the truck, just would not be up to the 600 amp task. As it was, my headlights would practically go out with the beat.
Gang, I'm half deaf on the right and completely deaf on the left. Been for years! Not from bass though, that came when I became an adult and it certainly isn't helping - nor is my career choice, mechanic in a shop that doesn't believe in ppe ;¬;
Your completely wrong ,only with playing the wrong frequencys will you go deaf, play stuff thats to high and it'll go quick. You can have 100k watts on subwoofers and aslong as your tweeters aren't set wrong, you will not go deaf
Hello BigD, Your testing videos are really good. I have query, could you pls suggest - What's your opinion on Sundown SALT 1700.5 amp using for an SQ build to power Morel Hybrid 602 and Morel Ultimo titanium SC Subwoofer. All running active. Thank you verymuch
Great content as always "Big D"!!! Can't wait to see their comment on whats causing the protect problem on the dyno. Thats an odd problem to not replicate itself on subwoofers. As they are the "dynamic" test run essentially.
Before anyone asks, yes I looked in the video description and everywhere listed in the video description for this before I asked it. Big D, where do you buy your 2/0 input reducers?
2010chuckdee YES!! I agree with you 100% full bridge Brazilian amps are far superior to the underwhelming cheap Chinese board Skar RP Amps! I don't see why so many ppl seem to like the rp series skar amps. I had the RP2000.1D and hated that amp. Sent it back to skar for refund & replaced it with a Taramps Smart3 which has performed very well for me going on a year and a half now! Run full bridge Brazilian amps as they are designed to be ran & they do well. I also have a Sundown sfb5000 and a Taramps md8000.1 amp.
Awesome video on this one. Definitely interesting that it only goes into protect on the Uncertified runs, but will play hard when pushed on your subs and doesn't seem to have a problem with the Certified or Dynamic runs. It's almost got to be something with the way the dyno handles the test cycle that the amp doesn't like. This amp is most certainly a powerhouse from what you're showing here, and with the right electrical should make anyone happy. Keep up the great vids, I always enjoy coming back time after time to see what other gems you've found or what old school treasures you're showing us next. Thank you for all the content!
If you wouldn't power your house with an inverter plugged into your cigarette lighter then why would you purchase an amp knowing you don't have the power to support it? Not only does it throttle back the power but it's the #1 killer of amps, invest in your electrical system your ears and amps will thank you.
👍 great video 👍 have you tested any Soundstream or Acustic amps, I guess subs too? I believe they’re made at the same place? I feel they also make another 1 like Pyramid🤷🏻♂️ ✅Anyway, I brought those up because it reminded me of a comp I went to and they wanted to run readings for amp outputs, and when they hooked up to my soundstream RUB1.2500D it would go into protect mode🤷🏻♂️ 🤔 I know I didn’t have the hugest power supply but had the yellow top but only one 130amp alt, BIG3 with 0g stinger wire 🤷🏻♂️ hooked up to 1 HCCA12.2 ⬅️ BEST SUB EVER🔥🔥🔥🔥👍 (I sold for my lift kit becz 3 kids, didn’t have space in my truck😞 sat in garage to use once a year for local comps) ❤️🤷🏻♂️ SORRY FOR LONG COMMENT also I’m guessing the brands I mentioned have improved 🤷🏻♂️🤔
Back in the day. Around 95 96 Era. Had a Rockford 250 punch on 2 2200 watt amercan bass pro's. Bumped stupid hard. New the ratings were off because at nite when the bass hit the lights in the car dimmed to almost off. Also u send the the jingle all the way reference. Classic
Rockford 250 Punch delivers more power than rated. I'm not sure what you are saying. Did you mean the ratings on the subs? That has nothing to do with your voltage drop.
@@bp420a5 Okay. Typically when the bass hits, the amp draws a lot of current and your cars voltage dips. This causes the headlights to dim. For them to dim very low typically means your voltage dipped very low.
Wow just noticed notification came out a day late .... Anyway i dont see a problem... the amp seems to be decent quality...i love my 3k and the protect mode kicks in when the voltage is too low so your guess of the fluctuation of voltage might be the cause... I appreciate the fans...im from new england..... ...amps when used in extreme temperature environments causes water condensation just like a can of coke out of the fridge. so the constant fan operation in my opinion would help to fight that somewhat... thumbs up all the way love the amp love the vid
Hi, I love the dual fan constant on set up as well, I agree with u totally here. Also, good to keep all the condensation off if it, dust, dirt off of it and HEAT, these are big 3 amp killers ( there are more if course) but the fans certainly are a gr8 step in the right direction. I always add fans and ventilation to every system I build, and it always helps life, longevity, cleanliness ( I like to take my gear out once a year, open, inspect and clean it) and I have seen such a large difference inside that I ALWAYS add fans and ventilation. Anyway love the comments! Fire 🔥🔥🔥.... Or.. wait... We don't want that... Fight 🔥🔥🔥... Idk... 😆
Erik Victoria yes, with ease. It would have a pair of 15" vxf bumping HARD!! Just make sure you have the proper electrical to power this amp. Takes alot to properly push a true 5k rms amp wired at 1 ohm.
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 yes sir. I have two alternators. One for my truck and the other is a brand x 390 amp high output solely for my audio system with 3 agm batteries. All 1/0 tinned ofc wires with dual inputs.
Hey bud been watching all your test vidios and would like to know what my Memphis se2000.1df actually puts out I got it running 2 12 prx1224 subs and it's loud just courious what it's actually putting out
Good day bro, I have the same exact amp and also going to protect mode at high volume at head unit, did Slayer company gave you info about this amp why it is going protect mode at 1 ohm dynamic test as shown in your video? Please just need help and enlightenment. Thank you as always for your videos.
BIG D WIZ... I've been through three sets of skar subs while running a rp1200 kit professionally installed and haven't touch there settings running factory electrical and stock head. At about 30 on my stereo volume my subs start popping. I thought it was factory defects so I been through a set of sdrs and a set of svrs so now I got the skar dual 12 evl loaded enclosure with the same rp1200 at 1ohm and at high volumes they pop as well. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE PLEASE
Not sure what box you have but the skar boxs are tuned pretty high and also come with a bit of rise . Their is zero chance that 1200.1 can over power them evl subs . I run an rp 1500.1 on 3 svr8s and cant over power them . My guess is your electrical cant keep up and is causing the amp to clip .
Hey guys I have a question. It may sound dumb but I really want to know before I do anything stupid :') Can I put any bass knob on my amp(provided the connectors are the same)? Mine came with a shitty one that only has a power led and the knob is tiny and hard to turn, and the plastic is very cheap. It already broke one of the ears off so I have it mounted with zip ties right now. I'd love one like this with a volt meter and a protect and clip light. Thanks!
Usually not. If the knob is from the same vendor, maybe, and if it's rj11 style with no features like voltage or clip led it might work, but there's no real standard. You could always take your knob apart and panel mount it on your dash somewhere.
Still doesn't stack up to an Orion hcca that he dyno tested. That thing hit 13800 rms bad ass ran one to two dual one ohm vfl comp signature 12s that one amp omg I'll tell you we parallel wired both subs then parallel to the amp so in theory she saw .25 ohm. Bitch got it good still slamming away in an f250 diesel two batts up front and two more out back 200+amp alt and the customer only peaks it for around a minute at the most before dropping below 12v.
@@casemods Agreed!...and why not just get a Taramps for about the same price, that won't go into protect at 4 ohms on the dyno! I guess bully never got back to him about that issue....
Exactly. He should do one. This thing at our market is titled ps917D. Pumps sounds at 2ohms makes me wonder how much juice it has from the inside because it sounds stronger than 1k rms at 2ohm
It isn't rated for 1 ohm operation. I would bet cash that it does 1kw into 2 tho, no probs. Being that it has 120A of fusing and is rated to draw 65A (says maximum 65A?), my guess is it draws 130A max, which is 1850w at 14.4v, making it between 55% & 65% at 2 ohm, sounds right on the money.
@@minus3dbintheteens60 yes. It normally protects at 1ohm. But oh boy thing pushes alot of power. Doesn't sound like a 1000wats rms at all. Sounds much more
Are those RF Powers in the background? I have a pair of Punch Power 12s in my home theater! (Originally in my 1991 Sunbird install, a few decades ago...lol)
Off topic question, but in your experience has there been a difference in amperage use to get the same (relative) wattage output from a full bridge amp vs a half bridge amp?
Yo Big D, one day could you test the new DB Drive WDX 5000w mono block, I got 2 agm’s feeding it and this amp is hits so hard it’s breathtaking. I’m sure it does it’s rated but I’m curious still. It’s powering 2 DS18 ZXI high excursion 12’s
Thank you for dropping the HDR nonsense in your newer videos. It's a shame UA-cam/Android doesn't implement it better but maaaaannnn ... really makes things unwatachable when it's on.
I used to prefer the metal bits until I found out the reason why they use plastic for certain parts. Plastic under a lot of vibration actually transfers less of the energy from the vibration. So it's less likely to ghost turn or back out. Not to mention it's cheaper to replace.
Big D I just bought a skar rp1500.1 to run a memphis mojo 8in in factory memphis enclosure for the extended cab of my 1998 s 10 project truck .....I did buy a new alternator that does have better amperage than stock....30 percent more than stock actually ....going to run amp 1 oh and just the 1 8in memphis mojo sub ....will this run efficiently without issues ....
@@ALEX-xd7ko if it does it does ....give me reason to buy bigger subs but I think qs long as I keep it turned down it will be fine ....what's your thoughts
@@ALEX-xd7ko oh and I do have the better of the mojo subs the competition one ...or at least that's what they told me when I purchased the sub and enclosure ....
@@wal a common issue with full bridge amplifiers, mainly of the "Brazilian" design is that when you tip over 14.8 volts, many goes into protect. It's a misconception that they are high voltage amplifiers. This is just from our own experience.
@@jeffsenecal4168 most of the full bridge amplifiers perform extremely well with a little lower voltage. When kept at 12 volts to around 14 volts, most full bridge amps stay alive, and no issues at all...most of the time, lol. Every brand we have tested, just didn't like higher voltages, and with static loads. Not saying it's every brand, and we don't single any brand out either, as we just do not like to brand bash. But, all in all, these are solid amplifiers. The Audiopipe versions are just not built on solid boards, therefore they don't hold up.
Yeah, you DEFINITELY need to upgrade your electrical and charging system to run this amp. I have a 2004 Acura TL with an Orion HCCA SPLX 3k watt amp with all 1/0 OFC cable, a 320A high output alternator, a big three upgrade, and a yellow top Optima battery and there's times that it'll stall my car at idle at half gain slamming four Sundown Audio SA12-D2s.
@@wal Hey Derek, I just bought a brand new Skar Audio SK-M9005D 5 channel 900 watt amp to power my 6.5s in my doors and rear deck along with the factory 8" sub (which I replaced with a Skar IX8 D4 sub), and I'd be really interested to see how it does on the dyno considering the fact that it cost me $160 and it's TINY (and uses 8 gauge cable). Also, I have a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1.5000D in my wife's car powering a bottom shelf Rockville 15 and I'd also like to see how it would do. Soundstream (or Maxxsonics I believe) claims 5000 watts, but there's NO way it's making anywhere near that, so I'd love to see those two cheaper amps on the dyno. BTW, I have Cerwin Vega Mobile two way 6.5s. I don't think they're anywhere near what the actual Cerwin Vega company would put on the market. I should've just bought all Skar.
High out put alternators don't put out much power at all at idle. The 300+ amp models are the worst. They run a smaller pulley to try and get more power at lower speeds, but you still need to rev it to maybe 2,500 rpm to get full output.
@@303nitzubishi4 I can see that on the distortion, but I'm hearing a lot of mechanical noise as well, which sounds like the cabinet is experiencing some vibration. The amp seems like it would do the job well, I guess it's got enough headroom available for most stuff. Heh.
Hey big D. I have a Memphis MJ1.4200 . If your interested in doing a video on it, I'm more than up for sending it to you. Just a thought. Keep up the great vids! Long time fan!!
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Still got the 3k from the day you made the video. Bought one of the last ones in stock. Works great on 4 days a week with1.5 hours of commuting per day. Its been slammin my xfl 10 now got the skar evl 15 to see how it takes it. Thank you for the videos to help us find a great deals.
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I grabbed one when D showed them too. Still pushing the hell out of a vxf-12 everytime I'm in the truck!
How is the evl doing?
@@dopenvyyify So far so good. Sounds good and pounds pretty hard. Not pushing it yet. Still breaking it in. We will see how long it lasts. Got a great deal on the sub and box used from skar with a 1 year so I will let it eat soon.
@@dopenvyyify the xfl 10 took full power. Had it in the car for about 8 months. Got the 15 cause I wanted more surface area and to get a little lower
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
1:03 Unboxing Amp
2:34 Exterior / Options
5:52 Amp Dyno Tests
9:50 Amp vs Subs
11:07 Amp Guts
12:12 Pros / Cons
12:57 Final Thoughts
13:32 Extra Feature
Have they got back to you about the protect popping on?
Nice! I love it when you come across a good deal to show us like this! Thank you for the tests you do for the real rms numbers and handling of power.
Many of my amp went into PROTECT when used over 15.0V... The protection happen once the output power release and then the voltage rise back and trigger the protect mode.
It could also be due to the fact that the amp is being loaded resistively with static test signals, so there isn't any of the dynamic loudspeaker impedance to limit the current or the relatively low average to peak power seen with music. That combined with the impulsive nature of the test signal itself could be enough to cause the power supply rail voltages to momentarily sag enough to trip the protection circuitry. Although the fact that it does it with all the resistive loads means it could be something on the input side of the amp that's putting it into protect because some threshold has been exceeded. Be interesting to see if they ever chime in as to why.
Although if he has any capacitors to help out the batteries that potentially could do it since there could be enough stray inductance to cause ringing in the power cables with the dynamic test.
When I was a boy it was $1 a watt, now it's $1 for 10 watts. I call that progress.
Electrical is still expensive though
Yup $1 a watt was the good old days
@@willmarshall5193 it was $1 per watt just for real power back then. The good stuff was waaay more expensive.
@@wal electrical is still where you hit the wall when you want to push those big numbers for sure. It takes power to makes power!
That's true, but at the same time class A still cost $1 per watt.
It's great that companies know you'll give them a fair assessment of their product...
I’d say it’s a bit ballsy too…
I like the volume readout when you adjust your bass knob. Never knew I needed that in my life until now. Maybe some other brands will follow suit.
Sounds like a server turning on. I wonder if replacing the stock fans with something like a Noctua NF-A4x10 would quiet it down at all (assuming they're a 40mm fan).
I believe it would help quite a bit to swap the fans out. Noctua fans are good replacements
Noctua fans are almost certainly not going to push enough air. What is actually needed here is to install a simple ebay Temperature controller module, so the fans only kick in when it gets warm.
First things first I wonder what the amp rating is for the fans, sounds about around 1 amp at 12 volts, those things are moving some air for sure!
@@johncoops6897 Fan controller and maybe diy a shroud to control the airflow inside the amp, a lot of that airflow must be just passing through without actually hitting components.
Maybe route air from the existing fans to only the sides of the amp, then add a noctua in a void somewhere mid span to keep enough airflow to make the board components happy.
Wow! That's some crazy power for the $! Holy moly! Ya have to spend some in electrical, but talk about bang for the buck!
That Rockford you sent makes me smile everytime I listen to it! Thanks big buddy!
Awesome!!
Dude u missed his test on the Orion hcca this thing is a toy compared to the orion
@@christopherparis6841 I didn't miss it! The Orion splx and dz series are strait beast when it comes to watt to dollar ratio and sheer output. I definitely remember the sundown being an underperforming turd on that shootout as well.
Orion raised the price significantly and is no longer the bargain it once was.
More than likely it's over volt issues. Might be stable up to 15v. I had a Crescendo that would protect over 15v.
It slams, but do it bump doe? Looks like a ton of value/power for the folks that gotta have the most watt per dollar.
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Great video BigD. Nice job testing amp. Did you make a vid on the power bank? Curious how that is made. It sounds like a jet plane with those fans. Kinda cool.
Not yet but it will be future video
I have a feeling the amp doesn’t like the static load from the dyno. Speakers are providing a dynamic load and I’m guessing that’s why it doesn’t go into protect with subs.
Finally... Someone with intelligence and experience.. Thank you..it felt good reading that
@@CajunReaper95 ?? I don't understand... Make your question with more words... Please
I always get excited when I hear your intro music!!
Thanks for the video dereck!
Video summary goes as follows.
12.6 volts, 2317w rms @ 4 ohm
Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 1158w / 80% efficiency, which is good. ✅ Rated power.
12.6 volts, 3760w rms @ 2 ohm
Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 1880w / 74.3% efficiency aight, almost good ✅ Rated power.
12.6 volts, 5,216w rms @ 1 ohm
Lets assume impedance rise makes it go to 2608w / 75.4% efficiency aight, almost good ✅ Rated power
I'm using the same am with a different brand name (powerbass 30000w)... Amazing... Although I'm on stock electricals, the protection hick ups are real bro ... Still happy anyways
So nobody's gonna say anything about how this looks like a taramps clone
That was my first thought.
Noel Medina is this the first amp you've seen that resembles another amp on the market? If you'll pay attention you'll start to notice that there aren't that many different amp designs. So many come from the same exact buildhouse & have just been "rebadged" per buyers request. Look at how many different Korean amps look similar to one another.
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 exactly true story bro
@Winston Pratt seems more companies would wanna spend the extra few bucks, break the mold. Start designing and then send their designs out for build. They'd have a unique amp & probably gain loyal customers to make it all worthwhile. I could be completely wrong on all of that but I know that if I saw an amp that I loved the appearance of I would consider buying it so long as it performed well & had a good board, internal parts to go with it.
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Rebadging is not as common as many people think. There are many build houses and they copy the basic design, but there are many small differences. Some higher or lower in quality and different small features.
Nice to see a video of you!!!! Great amp!!! How's the Ford coming along?
I’ve hooked up many of the full bridge DB, sound digital, and taramps on 16volt yinlong banks. Ran the amps at .5-.67 ohm and zero issues. Yes I’m aware after rise I’m around 2 ohm. Sometimes higher. Obviously these are low voltage amps. That protect issue is weird. Great power.
U shouldnt have any problems running 0.33ohm connection either. It doesnt matter how u wire ur elements when ur real impedance is around rated where amp is stable. I hate people saying shit in internet like "been running 0.25 all day long with no issues" meanwhile after rise real impedance for example is around 1ohm
@@iSCOPEXZatec I have a DB aak 20,000.1 wired at about .21. It rises to about 1.2, and clamps around 20k. Protects sometimes, but rarely. Wired at 1 on speakers it’s like 7k amp because it rises to 4. Lol. So I completely get what you’re saying.
Don't change your style of your videos up, keep on doing your thing
Acceptable amp for an entry level car audio.
Need the electrical to back it up. The bass remote is 👌
Perfect for a set of 3000 watt max, $80 Boss 12s in the trunk of your 98 Maxima.
With factory headunit and a loc.
@@Carado5150 running off 8 gauge wire from the battery.... With a photo of grandma on the mirror
@@sarahconner9433 better have some lamp cord going from amp to subs.
Awesome.. thanks for your work man. You are appreciated. I will keep checking , but it would be mighty kind of you if you would update us on what bully says they THINK could be the issue?!.. thanks again big d
I like how the control knobs protrude so they can be adjusted without a tool, WELL DONE ENGINEERS!!
Im sure you’d be REAL accurate setting your amp with your fingers…
as opposed to what, a screw driver in your mouth? Using the outside of the knob, with your fingers, is going to give you much finer grain control of the setting than using the middle of the knob, with a tool, think about it.
So you just let your amp slid around dummy?
@@minus3dbintheteens60 I don’t need to think about it. I’ve installed and used enough amps and dsps to know that it’s a bad idea…as well as a board with those cheaper easily movable plastic potentiometers 🤢🤮 there’s a reason really nice equipment keeps em flush or below, metal, as well as requiring quite a bit more rotational force to set, keeping them immovable under excessive vibrations…you know..the environment of a vehicle.
And you think that a pot being flush is somehow more vibration resistant than the same pot that protrudes by a few mm? Righto
Can you do a video on the VFL Comp 3k vs 4k amps? I want my setup to match so I've been looking at American Bass/ VFL amps to go with my subwoofer. I have a American Bass HD 12D2 with a Taramps Smart 3 currently. I don't want to go backwards with RMS watts. The VFL Comp 3k has a fuse rating of 200 amps (which seems small) 200A x 14.4V = 2,880W. The VFL Comp 4k has a fuse rating of 350 (150 amp fuse rating difference from 3k to 4k seems a little ridiculous) 350A x 14.4V = 5,040W. I have also looked at the VFL Stealth 5500.1 (rated 2,800 RMS on Amazon, HOWEVER, on website it says 250-2400 RMS). American Bass PH-4000 seems to be 2k RMS and that's apparently laughable (dynoed at 1,800). PLEASE HELP ME! I would like to run a FULL American Bass/VFL setup. If I cannot figure something out I believe I will just buy a Teampie 4k
In retrospect, it's probably a good thing I didn't have this amp in the early 90s. I am already nearly deaf in my right ear and I am pretty sure my 1977 maverick with two 125 amp alternators and a couple of deep cycles in the truck, just would not be up to the 600 amp task. As it was, my headlights would practically go out with the beat.
Gang, I'm half deaf on the right and completely deaf on the left. Been for years! Not from bass though, that came when I became an adult and it certainly isn't helping - nor is my career choice, mechanic in a shop that doesn't believe in ppe ;¬;
Nowdays u can get Lifepo4 cells. So like 4 cells of 280ah batteries are enough.
Your completely wrong ,only with playing the wrong frequencys will you go deaf, play stuff thats to high and it'll go quick. You can have 100k watts on subwoofers and aslong as your tweeters aren't set wrong, you will not go deaf
There are guys much louder and been doing this much longer than a lot of people, and they still have perfect hearing on a hearing test.....
The going deaf is a joke unless you can't properly set up a 4ch system for tweeters
Great video Big D! Looks kinda similar to smart5 kinda 🤫
Hello BigD,
Your testing videos are really good.
I have query, could you pls suggest -
What's your opinion on Sundown SALT 1700.5 amp using for an SQ build to power Morel Hybrid 602 and Morel Ultimo titanium SC Subwoofer.
All running active.
Thank you verymuch
Big D can you make a few more subwoofer videos and also I would love the see the 5k paired with the massive sub
Great content as always "Big D"!!! Can't wait to see their comment on whats causing the protect problem on the dyno. Thats an odd problem to not replicate itself on subwoofers. As they are the "dynamic" test run essentially.
It was something I haven’t seen before. Especially at 4 and 2 ohms
@@wal yes sir. Completely weird & out of sorts. Especially when it didnt replicate itself on the subs.
Before anyone asks, yes I looked in the video description and everywhere listed in the video description for this before I asked it. Big D, where do you buy your 2/0 input reducers?
Vibe and Sky High make nice copper hardware, most companies use brass or alloy
@@minus3dbintheteens60 thanks bud.
Awesome video I personally am talking to Bully performance about this amp and 4 of their 12s
I brought one and it is nice a good value 👌 bying another one for my other car I love this amp better than the skar 3500 RP HAD IN BEFORE
2010chuckdee YES!! I agree with you 100% full bridge Brazilian amps are far superior to the underwhelming cheap Chinese board Skar RP Amps! I don't see why so many ppl seem to like the rp series skar amps. I had the RP2000.1D and hated that amp. Sent it back to skar for refund & replaced it with a Taramps Smart3 which has performed very well for me going on a year and a half now! Run full bridge Brazilian amps as they are designed to be ran & they do well. I also have a Sundown sfb5000 and a Taramps md8000.1 amp.
I just brought another one wow do it sounds nice I love the bass knob it runs circles around skar
I loved to see they weren't straight up lying to ya! 😁
Agreed!
Upvoting for the “Jingle All the Way” reference alone! Also if I’m not mistaken by the baseline but was that “Bass I Love You” playing during testing?
Yessir! Credit to Bassotronics FTW
Awesome video on this one. Definitely interesting that it only goes into protect on the Uncertified runs, but will play hard when pushed on your subs and doesn't seem to have a problem with the Certified or Dynamic runs. It's almost got to be something with the way the dyno handles the test cycle that the amp doesn't like. This amp is most certainly a powerhouse from what you're showing here, and with the right electrical should make anyone happy. Keep up the great vids, I always enjoy coming back time after time to see what other gems you've found or what old school treasures you're showing us next. Thank you for all the content!
Is dust a big issue with these amps with built in fans? I've never used one but I feel like it'll just build up dust faster than my dining room PC
Dude that bike "Haro Freestyle" was badass.
Just curious...what kind of power would this amp put out with a stock alt and big three upgrade? A couple thousand??? Love your channel btw!!👏👌👍🤘
If you wouldn't power your house with an inverter plugged into your cigarette lighter then why would you purchase an amp knowing you don't have the power to support it? Not only does it throttle back the power but it's the #1 killer of amps, invest in your electrical system your ears and amps will thank you.
👍 great video 👍 have you tested any Soundstream or Acustic amps, I guess subs too? I believe they’re made at the same place? I feel they also make another 1 like Pyramid🤷🏻♂️
✅Anyway, I brought those up because it reminded me of a comp I went to and they wanted to run readings for amp outputs, and when they hooked up to my soundstream RUB1.2500D it would go into protect mode🤷🏻♂️
🤔 I know I didn’t have the hugest power supply but had the yellow top but only one 130amp alt, BIG3 with 0g stinger wire 🤷🏻♂️ hooked up to 1 HCCA12.2 ⬅️ BEST SUB EVER🔥🔥🔥🔥👍 (I sold for my lift kit becz 3 kids, didn’t have space in my truck😞 sat in garage to use once a year for local comps) ❤️🤷🏻♂️
SORRY FOR LONG COMMENT
also I’m guessing the brands I mentioned have improved 🤷🏻♂️🤔
At the end of the video you can hear the fans cheering way to go Amp
Great video it's a Taramps technology they used Circuit is the same like some of them that I repaired very powerful amplifier I love it 👍👍👏👏💯
Love the dynos! Keep em coming D!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@williston audio labs in your personal opinion taramps or this one 🤔
Excellent as always big power for the $, box was jumpin off the ground yo!. LTO bank looks good. Thanks for the peak beneath the skirt.
Back in the day. Around 95 96 Era. Had a Rockford 250 punch on 2 2200 watt amercan bass pro's. Bumped stupid hard. New the ratings were off because at nite when the bass hit the lights in the car dimmed to almost off. Also u send the the jingle all the way reference. Classic
Rockford 250 Punch delivers more power than rated. I'm not sure what you are saying. Did you mean the ratings on the subs? That has nothing to do with your voltage drop.
Never had a voltage drop. Just saying it had that much of an underrated out put that I was pushing larger subs.
@@bp420a5 Okay. Typically when the bass hits, the amp draws a lot of current and your cars voltage dips. This causes the headlights to dim. For them to dim very low typically means your voltage dipped very low.
Bass knob looks just like the ones with my CT sounds amps. I like how it shows the volume though
👌😬👍
Wow just noticed notification came out a day late .... Anyway i dont see a problem... the amp seems to be decent quality...i love my 3k and the protect mode kicks in when the voltage is too low so your guess of the fluctuation of voltage might be the cause... I appreciate the fans...im from new england.....
...amps when used in extreme temperature environments causes water condensation just like a can of coke out of the fridge. so the constant fan operation in my opinion would help to fight that somewhat... thumbs up all the way love the amp love the vid
Video dropped today for public. Yesterday was Patreon supporters
Hi, I love the dual fan constant on set up as well, I agree with u totally here. Also, good to keep all the condensation off if it, dust, dirt off of it and HEAT, these are big 3 amp killers ( there are more if course) but the fans certainly are a gr8 step in the right direction. I always add fans and ventilation to every system I build, and it always helps life, longevity, cleanliness ( I like to take my gear out once a year, open, inspect and clean it) and I have seen such a large difference inside that I ALWAYS add fans and ventilation. Anyway love the comments! Fire 🔥🔥🔥.... Or.. wait... We don't want that... Fight 🔥🔥🔥... Idk... 😆
Awesome. Could this amp push two 15 inch vxf subwoofers?
Erik Victoria yes, with ease. It would have a pair of 15" vxf bumping HARD!! Just make sure you have the proper electrical to power this amp. Takes alot to properly push a true 5k rms amp wired at 1 ohm.
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 yes sir. I have two alternators. One for my truck and the other is a brand x 390 amp high output solely for my audio system with 3 agm batteries. All 1/0 tinned ofc wires with dual inputs.
Hey bud been watching all your test vidios and would like to know what my Memphis se2000.1df actually puts out I got it running 2 12 prx1224 subs and it's loud just courious what it's actually putting out
You can use an amp meter ($35) to see what kind of current it is drawing. That is a cheap way to see if the power output is in the correct ballpark.
Good day bro, I have the same exact amp and also going to protect mode at high volume at head unit, did Slayer company gave you info about this amp why it is going protect mode at 1 ohm dynamic test as shown in your video? Please just need help and enlightenment. Thank you as always for your videos.
I was hoping for a half ohm run at the end
Full Bridge don’t do .5 ohm. They go 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@HaynesJP oh yes they can. Test it please 😁 would like to see this
Again another killer video! Had them little subs slapping! Keep up the great amp and sub videos, cause I will be watching them all! Ya big dummy !
BIG D WIZ... I've been through three sets of skar subs while running a rp1200 kit professionally installed and haven't touch there settings running factory electrical and stock head. At about 30 on my stereo volume my subs start popping. I thought it was factory defects so I been through a set of sdrs and a set of svrs so now I got the skar dual 12 evl loaded enclosure with the same rp1200 at 1ohm and at high volumes they pop as well. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE PLEASE
Not sure what box you have but the skar boxs are tuned pretty high and also come with a bit of rise . Their is zero chance that 1200.1 can over power them evl subs . I run an rp 1500.1 on 3 svr8s and cant over power them . My guess is your electrical cant keep up and is causing the amp to clip .
I think im go with the 3k that's good enough for me . i think they come with the new bass knop too
The bass knob is dope!
I got to 2 audiopipe TXX BDC4 10s im thing about getting the 3k slayer and 2 more audiopipe
Hey guys I have a question. It may sound dumb but I really want to know before I do anything stupid :')
Can I put any bass knob on my amp(provided the connectors are the same)? Mine came with a shitty one that only has a power led and the knob is tiny and hard to turn, and the plastic is very cheap. It already broke one of the ears off so I have it mounted with zip ties right now. I'd love one like this with a volt meter and a protect and clip light. Thanks!
Usually not. If the knob is from the same vendor, maybe, and if it's rj11 style with no features like voltage or clip led it might work, but there's no real standard. You could always take your knob apart and panel mount it on your dash somewhere.
You can contact Bully Performance Audio
Insane to me how much wattage these amps are producing for the money.
Agreed!
Yeah but what you save on the amp, you'll be spending on alternators and batteries
Still doesn't stack up to an Orion hcca that he dyno tested. That thing hit 13800 rms bad ass ran one to two dual one ohm vfl comp signature 12s that one amp omg I'll tell you we parallel wired both subs then parallel to the amp so in theory she saw .25 ohm. Bitch got it good still slamming away in an f250 diesel two batts up front and two more out back 200+amp alt and the customer only peaks it for around a minute at the most before dropping below 12v.
@@casemods Agreed!...and why not just get a Taramps for about the same price, that won't go into protect at 4 ohms on the dyno! I guess bully never got back to him about that issue....
@@TheRealAaronWitchey Taramps don't have bass knobs. I gotta have my bass knob. 😁
What do you do with all the amps that you demo do you have to send them back or do you keep them
Seems like your running some small power and ground wires on this one
Been waiting for big d to drop some videos thank you big D
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Please do a dyno run on a Kenwood KAC-9106D. Really want to know the true power rating for it and Efficiency of it.
Exactly. He should do one. This thing at our market is titled ps917D. Pumps sounds at 2ohms makes me wonder how much juice it has from the inside because it sounds stronger than 1k rms at 2ohm
Exactly my point 👆
Y’all bout right too
It isn't rated for 1 ohm operation. I would bet cash that it does 1kw into 2 tho, no probs.
Being that it has 120A of fusing and is rated to draw 65A (says maximum 65A?), my guess is it draws 130A max, which is 1850w at 14.4v, making it between 55% & 65% at 2 ohm, sounds right on the money.
@@minus3dbintheteens60 yes. It normally protects at 1ohm. But oh boy thing pushes alot of power. Doesn't sound like a 1000wats rms at all. Sounds much more
What would you choose for a pair of 12s to get a 2 ohm set up? Hmu please
THIS WAS A GREAT VID WIZARD I LOVED IT GEE
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@wal every single time brother
I bought the 3k from a audio shop in Texas. Amazon sold out of the 5k . This amp gets the job done believe it or not . An it runs 😎 cool .I paid 278
Are those RF Powers in the background? I have a pair of Punch Power 12s in my home theater! (Originally in my 1991 Sunbird install, a few decades ago...lol)
They are Punch DVC’s
What could be cooler than amp that has SLAYER on it 🤘☠️🤘
I’d like to see more reviews and testing on amps for motorcycles
Twisted audio is a company out of Texas as well. They use the same amps I seen someone upload a 8K.
Cool Video! Happy new year Big!
Off topic question, but in your experience has there been a difference in amperage use to get the same (relative) wattage output from a full bridge amp vs a half bridge amp?
The best efficiency I’ve measured has been around 95% at 4 ohms and those amps were all half bridge (DC Audio, Crescendo, Sundown)
Whats the difference between a good meal, and a good time?
man that slayer sounds like my 40 odd way POE hub for my CCTV lots of little fans going ABSOLUTELY WIND TUNNEL
Why did the amp keep going into protect? Voltage High?
I would love to see some of these car audio amps driving some power hungry electro static home audio tower speakers .
That's good to know that the company has a storefront in Texas. Howdy from Texas
Question have you ever heard theVintage SANYO PA6050 Mobile Car Stereo Power Amplifier 50w
Yo Big D, one day could you test the new DB Drive WDX 5000w mono block, I got 2 agm’s feeding it and this amp is hits so hard it’s breathtaking. I’m sure it does it’s rated but I’m curious still.
It’s powering 2 DS18 ZXI high excursion 12’s
Btw. How do you like those subs? I was looking to get a pair of 12’s myself on a Powerus 2500
@@kdogg071 yo those ZXI’s are BRUTUL. They’ve been loosening up my 2016 accord, they can loosen up any brand new car. You’ll love them
@@Thanson199415
Thank you for that. That’s what I want. Lol
Can you dyno on the power acoustic Vertigo 10k i got that amp got now on 2 audiopipe txx BDC 10s
would thiz be good with a cerwin vega ztroker zvc 4 ohm, or what would u reccoment..
Just got one. Hard to find. Going to hook it to my 15" sundown xv3 and run it at 4 ohms. Should be more than enough until I upgrade my alt.
What are you wired at prior to box rise, starting impedance?
Asked before I got to the overview. Sorry😞
1 ohm
Still waiting on a Alpine R-A75M alpine a year later another great video
thought the same thing noel,taramps, once again good video and info big d wiz
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Crazy it went into protect on the dynamic runs vs the uncertified 🤨
I'd grab a DC power supply and set it to 14.4v for the LTO and just leave it there :)
That cut scene to the bridge tickled my funny bone.
Ok so it looks exactly like a taramps amplifier. Is it the same company that makes both amps??
No, seems to be based on Taramps design though
Only looks similar. Different internally.
Thank you for dropping the HDR nonsense in your newer videos. It's a shame UA-cam/Android doesn't implement it better but maaaaannnn ... really makes things unwatachable when it's on.
I'd guess the protect is due to internal over voltage on those dynamic hits
Just wondering why do it 🤔 go in protect mode mines doing the same thing on your video
I used to prefer the metal bits until I found out the reason why they use plastic for certain parts. Plastic under a lot of vibration actually transfers less of the energy from the vibration. So it's less likely to ghost turn or back out. Not to mention it's cheaper to replace.
Valid points
Is that better then The
hi phonics Brutus 4K
To run 2- 12 evil skar
Big D I just bought a skar rp1500.1 to run a memphis mojo 8in in factory memphis enclosure for the extended cab of my 1998 s 10 project truck .....I did buy a new alternator that does have better amperage than stock....30 percent more than stock actually ....going to run amp 1 oh and just the 1 8in memphis mojo sub ....will this run efficiently without issues ....
That 1500.1 is going to smoke that mjo. If you keep voltage to the amp it will run 1500+ .
@@ALEX-xd7ko if it does it does ....give me reason to buy bigger subs but I think qs long as I keep it turned down it will be fine ....what's your thoughts
@@ALEX-xd7ko oh and I do have the better of the mojo subs the competition one ...or at least that's what they told me when I purchased the sub and enclosure ....
Good stuff big D. I wonder how it does at low voltage ⚡...pop 🔥🔥🔥??? 640+ Amps pulled OMG...But it goes into protection after every run.... Ugh...
Only in dynamic and only with Dyno. I could not replicate with speakers
@@wal a common issue with full bridge amplifiers, mainly of the "Brazilian" design is that when you tip over 14.8 volts, many goes into protect. It's a misconception that they are high voltage amplifiers. This is just from our own experience.
@@wal Yes sir. Thank you for all your great content and hard work man!
@@Chuck_Sanders You know what, that makes sense, these Amos really do want the correct voltage.
@@jeffsenecal4168 most of the full bridge amplifiers perform extremely well with a little lower voltage. When kept at 12 volts to around 14 volts, most full bridge amps stay alive, and no issues at all...most of the time, lol. Every brand we have tested, just didn't like higher voltages, and with static loads. Not saying it's every brand, and we don't single any brand out either, as we just do not like to brand bash. But, all in all, these are solid amplifiers. The Audiopipe versions are just not built on solid boards, therefore they don't hold up.
Yeah, you DEFINITELY need to upgrade your electrical and charging system to run this amp. I have a 2004 Acura TL with an Orion HCCA SPLX 3k watt amp with all 1/0 OFC cable, a 320A high output alternator, a big three upgrade, and a yellow top Optima battery and there's times that it'll stall my car at idle at half gain slamming four Sundown Audio SA12-D2s.
Facts
@@wal Hey Derek, I just bought a brand new Skar Audio SK-M9005D 5 channel 900 watt amp to power my 6.5s in my doors and rear deck along with the factory 8" sub (which I replaced with a Skar IX8 D4 sub), and I'd be really interested to see how it does on the dyno considering the fact that it cost me $160 and it's TINY (and uses 8 gauge cable). Also, I have a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RN1.5000D in my wife's car powering a bottom shelf Rockville 15 and I'd also like to see how it would do. Soundstream (or Maxxsonics I believe) claims 5000 watts, but there's NO way it's making anywhere near that, so I'd love to see those two cheaper amps on the dyno. BTW, I have Cerwin Vega Mobile two way 6.5s. I don't think they're anywhere near what the actual Cerwin Vega company would put on the market. I should've just bought all Skar.
High out put alternators don't put out much power at all at idle. The 300+ amp models are the worst. They run a smaller pulley to try and get more power at lower speeds, but you still need to rev it to maybe 2,500 rpm to get full output.
that amp was made for cars and trucks like a 10SI alternatorchevrolet 15 vdccutout to protect the wiring system in thr car
10:42 I don't know the track, but is the low end supposed to be that distorted and chuffy, or is it a function of the cabinet flexing?
The noise is from the cameras mic clipping. Most cheap phone mics can't modulate very well over 100db I'd guess
@@303nitzubishi4 I can see that on the distortion, but I'm hearing a lot of mechanical noise as well, which sounds like the cabinet is experiencing some vibration. The amp seems like it would do the job well, I guess it's got enough headroom available for most stuff. Heh.
Hey big D. I have a Memphis MJ1.4200 . If your interested in doing a video on it, I'm more than up for sending it to you. Just a thought. Keep up the great vids! Long time fan!!
Cat5 is telephone cable, Ma Bell was using it in the late 80s for phone wiring. Source I work for the "bell system"
Do you review any Bluetooth motorcycle/marine amps?