23,500 WATTS I WAS LIKE 🤯🤯🤯😮💨😮💨😮💨 Another great video man! I think people should know by now we ain’t playing around and are dropping massive value for the car audio fanatics ⚡️✅⚡️✅
I hope people watch all the way until the end because things get very interesting....insanity! Thanks for letting me use your clips, I linked to your vids as well
D4S is literally blowing away the competition I’ve already purchased a 33 and is the best amp I ever had. Thanks for your research and testing it made my my decision easy to make 💪🏽D4S amps you rock👍🏽
Maaan!!! JP and those D4S amps are trying to become king of bass. Im glad the hobby of big bass is being ressurected. When I was a teen in the 90s bass was everything. We all learned to be installers watching our homies do it one or 2 times. Video games and bass music was the topic daily.
Always remember what Big D said and he is 110% correct. " You need power to make Power" batteries, notice more than one. Wiring, proper gauge don't be cheap on the wiring no garbage off-brand crap. Alternator and more.
In the future it will be a moot point as bassheads will be powering amps directly off a 400V EV system. Imagine your entire amp rack being fed with a few 8 gauge wires! ;-)
Also notice the power at the time of clean power. Before this amp literally skips a beat. Quite a few times it didn't count up cleanly so I'd even raise an eyebrow on the supposedly efficiency ratings.
No wonder jp has soo many haters...went from nothing to the back bone of car audio an ppl can't stand when others are extremely successful...wonder if hrs gonna come out with his own subs..literally the only thing left! Jp doing the damn thing! 👏
I love seeing people be successful. There is plenty of love to go around. Thank you for these videos. I quit car audio after my RF DVC HX2 15's, and a custom box were stolen from my mustang hatch back. I'm driving a dodge ram quad cab and heard a friends setup with dual 12's under the back seat shake the windows and watching your channel has got me interested again.
This is the dyno I was waiting for! Freaking big power! My next amp! J P did a amazing job on these amp! Or Jacob Scott! Anyway. Love everything about it! Great video as always Big D! 👍😎💯💨💨💨
@@johndough4338 taramp is litterally power and nothing else. Assuming you have a good ear for it, you can litterally hear the difference in quality of sound coming out of the amps
These jp amp are really good amps... I am very impress with them... I remember when jp when he first started... He is a monster now... So proud of my brother.
@@wal Heck yeah and really, that thing can power a truck load of 12's. I remember back in the 90's when it'd take half a trunk full of amp space to power a few 15's. Great vid, man!
What a beast! I still think the JP63 is the value leader, but if you want the best, this thing is on the short list for sure! Thanks for the great video!!
Until 2yrs later after yo ear get use2 da 6300watts and 20 upgrades, then u gonna kno wat tru value is of buy'n da biggest baddest amp 1st. Only gotta buyit 1tyme plus it does wat da otha jp amps does from 8 to.8 ohms ex: 2ohms = 6300watts, gotta buy 2of Dem to get with diz big boii thts ova 2grand.
@@beefysghost867 yeah I love them when I had it in my house it was sitting at 15.5v no charger on it and I hooked up my 3k rms full bridge amplifier and ran a 20 HZ tone wide open on one of my 15s and after 10 seconds it went from 15.5v to 15.3v but then bounced back to 15.5v in less then 2sec after the burp and I did I total of four consecutive 10-second burps each time in less than 2 seconds it was bouncing back and after 30 seconds worth of wide open it was resting it 15.3v I was like ddddaaammmmmnnnnnn lol that would of straight up killed one of my agms lol
Yeah I agree, I think the fine-grain control is more of a positive, than it is a negative point. It's not like anyone is really going 0-100 in the real world on the level, so fine-grain is a-ok.
@@everyhandletaken totally agree. I mean there are time when I wish there was an in between on my gain knob. This one, has an in-between for the in-between lol
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I've been curious about these amps for some time now and I've watched all the dynos you've done on them and I honestly believe them to be the absolute best on the market today. The quality that they are built in as well as the components used in their build are top notch. Why don't they have subwoofers. I think they would knock it outta the park if they did. As always, great video my friend. You know how them sound waves go.... I love it brother!! I get tickled every time I see it.
I'm beside myself on this one 🤯. Much respect for those amps. I'm also kind of curious about the dyo now. What's limits of the dyno at different ohms? (What's the dyo specs?) Did you ever cover this in previous video? If not, would you consider making one?
sounds like steve/D'amore might need to make a beefier dyno model just to get a proper bead on down4sounds product lines. they're gonna be smokin things soon, and the amps just gonna be like 'what, you done?'
Salt 8k puts out 1k more power at less voltage @ 1ohm certified, but D Will won't say it because sundown didn't give him an amp and I guess he doesn't trust other reputable dynos like Derrick from Sundown Unofficial. No salt just saying the real!
@@Mr.NpK143 I saw the sundown unofficial video of it and you're right, yes it does beat the jp as far as voltage to watts but it DOESNT beat the jp when it comes to pricing.. I've been watching the pricing on the salt-8 when it was discounted TWICE on D4S and it was STILL more expensive than the 83.. like by $900 lol. At that point you're better off getting the 83 and grabbing yourself 2 batteries or 1 battery and a bigger Alternator.
@@kkiidd77 finally someone that agrees with the truth 👏 🙌. I said the jp83 was a great value in my first comment. But I also said that we don't know the longevity of the jp amps. And that's also true! Lil D also stated the voltage in this video was enough to run this ampndue to his lithium setup. So it depends on if a person would want to spend extra on the amp or that extra on more electrical. But as we all know that seen the two dynos the sundown salt 8k is stronger even in the low 13s then the jp83 is at over 14.7ish (give or take). That's a hole volt. Imagine if you fed the salt with 14.7ish. There would be no discussion. CAUSE YOU CAN GET YOUR VOLTAGE HIGH AS A KITE AND THE JP83 STILL WOULD NOT NOT OUT PERFORM THE SUNDOWN SALT 8K.
@@kkiidd77 I'd love to own a couple of Salt 12ks. I presently run 4 wolfram 7500s that are in a close race with the jp83. According to the dynos each has it respected output over the other, but neither amp out performs the Salt 8k. If I sell the 7500s I'll be in the market for two Salt 12ks. Unless JP or anyone else can beat the salt lineup, but I doubt it. Only because JP can't cookie cut the sundown technology. I was called a hater for speaking the truth, Lil D replied to my comments 😆 🤣 , and even JP dissed the consumer suggestion. All because I stated the truth when a fellow bass head asked which is better. He didn't ask which was the cheapest lol. That's no knock to JP cause hell I run wolfram. Even bought one from JP, but neither is better than the 🧂 8k. And oh yeah the difference in price is $800 not $900. D4S claims the regular price is $2250. The Salt 8k is 2300. So jp thinks as much of this amp as sundown does the salt 8k. And if you pay attention Lil D says the JP 83 is 1500 at the time of this video. Same shit that was said on the wolfram 7500 dyno and now its 1500. You know I wouldn't be surprised if the price went up as soon as people start buying the jp83 amp just like wolfram. 🙄.
Been waiting for this one but honestly I'm more impressed by the 43 & 63 on how underrated those are. I want a 63 to replace my 23. That also means about another grand though in just electrical upgrades too
Thats the problem, it never ends. I'm content with the 1900 watts at 1 ohm my MTX amp makes. For a daily driver I don't even need more than half that power anyways
fr I got the 23 for 250 bucks tho so I had to get it. right before they came out with all these new ones lol. but I actually like my bass knobs attenuation sensitivity and don't have the extra grand plus in more electrical like you lol. to supply this beast. one day tho...
A wireless Bass Knob. You would not think this is a big deal. Wait till you use one. And then it's hard to go back. This should have been done YEARS ago. But there ya have it. JP doing what needs to be done. And what people want.
@@catch22frubert Thing is? I never heard of it. I would have been the first to line up and buy one! Oh the hell it was going under the carpet and taking out the seats to route cables to multiple amps in my ride! 😄
JP’s new Tahoe is truly insane. If there’s actually a such thing as too much bass that’s it. The demos he’s doing are probably 8th volume. If he pushed it far enough that system would literally blow the truck apart.
JP is changing the game, in a positive way. If I had access to these last year when I bought a Sundown Salt 4K, I would have purchased the 8K DFS instead. I'm very very happy with the performance of the Salt 4K, but these appear to be slightly superior in build quality. (Not to mention I basically paid double for half the performance of the amp shown) Def something to keep in mind going forward. Thanks BigD and JP!
I replaced my sundown salt 6k for the JP83 the power output is good. The bass remote is annoying, it resets the bass to zero whenever you pair the remote to the amp and it takes too many revolutions to turn the bass back up. Direct connect bass knob like the sundown salt or the JP 23 is much better.
Looks like I'm ordering one. I'm starting a new project for my 97 2 door Tahoe. My 18 sub is a older one a Solo X which was barely used from my brother. He used it for like 2 weeks back then then switched to 2 Fi BTL's. Solo X 18 still looks new I'm taking it out the basement and putting this amp on it😂
I couldn't afford to power that beast. Still amazed at the build quality and freaking ginormous power for the price. If you want a beast amplifier and can handle the current draw this is the monster 4 u
I would have to remove the engine from the car & sell that, just to afford half of the power needed (and would also then have to push my car around.. not super convenient). It would free up some space for batteries though... just won't be able to keep them charged lol
lets this comment be... ive been following jp for some time. he come a long way. from tearing his tahoe apart becase he got burned on his install to installing his own product in the tahoe. there are few people that can say theyve done it. but jp is true a inspiration . also. big d wiz. hes developed his channel quite a bit. a apprecite him working with locals like smd,gately,ultra audio. keep up the good content . bless up
Impressive power but CapXon capcitors are horrible junk. That's what behringer uses in their power supplies and I've made a lot of money replacing those with nichicons after they fail within a couple years.
Agreed.. I kind of expect cheaper caps in lower priced but power dense amps. When we are starting to get up over the 700 dollar price point the cost of a name brand cap really isn't that big of a hit to the net profit on the amp. Plus it would show dedication to quality with that clear bottom cover.
@@wal Even at 10k watts that's a huge draw. How much time between clips do you wait before doing your next run. I assume there must be some recharge time between runs.
You should do a Video Expos'e on the POWER END. Multiple alternators and batteries... cabling... all the POWER SUPPLY side thats needed to run multiple 25,000 watt amplifiers. Thats what I am most interested in seeing.... 1200 amps.... continuous... Lets see a video on the POWER side BigDWiz.... BDBD/2022
Man JP AINT PLAYING BUT HEY THE KING OF BASS ain’t go sell you nothing he ain’t go put in his own much respect this vid was impressive and I will be purchasing two..
That is totally insane !!! Cheers for the video informative and detailed as always ! May I ask how many ah your lithium bank is you run the tests off ? 20k+ on a burst and only half a volt drop is great !!!
I’m in need of 2 big amps 8-10kw I was planning on something cheap like taramps, but I just might spend double the money 💵 and buy 2 money amps from d4s.
Is it me or does these line of amplifiers resemble the us amps.i think the jp amps look just like the old us amps.great design and great build quality.
Finally, an amp that does not have bass boost option. Why do these amp manufacturers still include bass boost when everyone knows not to use it? Happy to see JP omitted bass boost on this one.
Hole E Fornication that’s impressive! I have the Jp23 & Jp234 combo unused and feel pretty good about my new build already. Going from a Rockford power 550x “50wx4” and a “500W” Rockford power bd1001 to the Jp23/4 combo should be a nice treat. Now my Rockford amps have lasted since 2002 until now so we’ll see if the Jp”s will have longevity like that or not? Thank you for the videos Big D I really enjoy learning with you. One love ☝️ ❤️
you need to get the i-link flexible amp clamp cord addon that should have come with that mater. I have that exact meter and i came with it, its like 3' long for busses or cable groups
I can imagine a Big D line up in the future... We got the Small D up to the XL D to satisfy your needs. Great content for sure and maybe one day I can install some of my old gear or maybe try these smaller JP amps to get some thump back in the old work truck.
As someone who ran all Orion back in the day (late 80s / early 90s), 8 Orion 12s and 16 8s. 12 xtr2150 amps. I can say, D4S is really impressive. And their customer service is really good, too.
Ah, why it gotta be green? I want one so bad lol. But that color doesn't mesh w my setup at all lol. Been considering Deaf Bonce Apocalypse 8k too. Same price🤷♂️
a lot of car audio fans don't understand just what it takes to make power output. will these work on stock setup for sure but you will never see these numbers until you go big 1400 amps is no joke that is real amp draw serious
Getting two of these strapped to power 4 b2 rampage 15's xmv4's d1's in parallel series at 2 ohms(1 ohm each amp). I just need to find out which lto's I want and 2-3 400 anp alts
Can you compare this too the ds 18 hooligan ko 8 on size vs power efficiency. I think the ko series takes the cake on Korean halfbridge for size to power ratio. Maybe dd audio m8000?
could you actually fry a amp dyno or is it well protected? ... also it would be cool to see the inside of the dyno sometime! and do you need to recalibrate the dyno from time to time? does whatever is inside that thing wear out?
THESE AMPS (JP83) on Lithium power... (X9) would be around 135,000 watts RMS @1ohm nominal on Dynamic music. At 0.5 ohms nominal on Dynamic music that's around 207,000 watts RMS . This is all theoretically dependent on Power setup, etc., but I believe D4S JP series amplifiers are the best in the world, Same with GATLEY Audio. There build is SO strong, its amazing.
Amp looks like a beast for sure. i was looking to maybe run a Salt 8 on 2 15s but might have to consider this jp83 i definitely like the 83% efficiency at 1ohm which id definitely rather run at 1 ohm then .5ohm.
Big D I bought 2 jp33 and they don't disappoint but they are hungry got to have power just ordered 64 headway cells from battery hookup can't wait to see what they do with power
23,500 WATTS I WAS LIKE 🤯🤯🤯😮💨😮💨😮💨
Another great video man! I think people should know by now we ain’t playing around and are dropping massive value for the car audio fanatics ⚡️✅⚡️✅
I hope people watch all the way until the end because things get very interesting....insanity! Thanks for letting me use your clips, I linked to your vids as well
@@wal It always does. You two guys are freakin Audio Rock Stars!!!
About another week or two of savings and I'm getting one of these! Beast mode J P's 83's 👊😎💯💨💨💨
Would this be a good match for my 5000 watts BOSS subwoofer?
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 it would blow that Boss Sub up 😂
D4S is literally blowing away the competition I’ve already purchased a 33 and is the best amp I ever had. Thanks for your research and testing it made my my decision easy to make 💪🏽D4S amps you rock👍🏽
Maaan!!! JP and those D4S amps are trying to become king of bass. Im glad the hobby of big bass is being ressurected. When I was a teen in the 90s bass was everything. We all learned to be installers watching our homies do it one or 2 times. Video games and bass music was the topic daily.
Truth
Yep
Techmaster P.E.B., Bass 305, DJ Magic Mike, etc.
DJ Bass Boy
That's the truth for real. I helped install, I installed on my own. Good times.
Wow that is the most powerful amp I've ever seen. Almost 24,000 watts. Thanks for the video Big D
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Taramps 30k ????
@@wagnerbrust taramps are known for not being reliable.
The SALT 12, id more off a cap bank and maxed out the dyno above 25K.
@@walterhicksiii3525 i know. I watch Derek from sundown unofficial do it
Always remember what Big D said and he is 110% correct.
" You need power to make Power" batteries, notice more than one. Wiring, proper gauge don't be cheap on the wiring no garbage off-brand crap. Alternator and more.
Amen 🙏
Physics... energy is conserved. Even worse, in order to get less, you need more. There are always inherent losses in systems.
In the future it will be a moot point as bassheads will be powering amps directly off a 400V EV system. Imagine your entire amp rack being fed with a few 8 gauge wires! ;-)
The batteries/caps, alternators, and wiring, not to mention labor necessary to get rated power out of this amp will cost far more than the amp itself!
@@303nitzubishi4, truth. I'm paying the cost now. $20k total. And it's not a very big setup. Just a very good setup.
I thought it was kinda expensive at first but when I seen the power his amps put out and the clean efficiency, I new it was well worth the price.
Also notice the power at the time of clean power. Before this amp literally skips a beat. Quite a few times it didn't count up cleanly so I'd even raise an eyebrow on the supposedly efficiency ratings.
Over 1400A draw!! Over 23K watts!!Dang this thing is powerful. I’m glad you had the amperage to give!!
I'm using 320aH of LTO from XS Power / Yinlong, in 6S8P setup. I'm considering switching to 5S10P setup and running mid 13's for voltage....
Finallllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! I've been anticipating this test for MONTHS 😬😬
No wonder jp has soo many haters...went from nothing to the back bone of car audio an ppl can't stand when others are extremely successful...wonder if hrs gonna come out with his own subs..literally the only thing left! Jp doing the damn thing! 👏
It’s pretty crazy. He has an amazing team working with him
He went from a cocky fker vs smug Meade, to a swell guy who used the view money to build shit for and to help out the small guys
I love seeing people be successful. There is plenty of love to go around. Thank you for these videos. I quit car audio after my RF DVC HX2 15's, and a custom box were stolen from my mustang hatch back. I'm driving a dodge ram quad cab and heard a friends setup with dual 12's under the back seat shake the windows and watching your channel has got me interested again.
I know this is an older video, but Big D is a gem to the car audio community. I've made so many purchases based on his content. Thanks brother.
This is the dyno I was waiting for! Freaking big power! My next amp! J P did a amazing job on these amp! Or Jacob Scott! Anyway. Love everything about it! Great video as always Big D! 👍😎💯💨💨💨
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@wal Thank's for the dyno!👍💯😎
WOW, THATS INSANE, I think Sundown is struggling to keep up with D4S, I would love a subwoofer line
Sundown still makes excellent subs but I’d choose the JP amps over Sundown at this time
@@wal ...hey friend, what is your honest opinion of the bigger (8k & up) taramps versus these Jp amps and sundown amps?
@@johndough4338 totally different amp so that’s not exactly a fair comparison to put a full bridge Brazilian against an amp like that
Sundown is okay not the best
@@johndough4338 taramp is litterally power and nothing else. Assuming you have a good ear for it, you can litterally hear the difference in quality of sound coming out of the amps
These jp amp are really good amps... I am very impress with them... I remember when jp when he first started... He is a monster now... So proud of my brother.
The $1,500 price is awesome!! The $3k of electrical upgrades is what will suck!! lol
Takes power to make power so the price of admission is much more than just the amp alone
@@wal Heck yeah and really, that thing can power a truck load of 12's. I remember back in the 90's when it'd take half a trunk full of amp space to power a few 15's. Great vid, man!
Who the hell are you telling maannnnnn!! Sheesh I'm looking at $4K just on batteries! 😂😂😂 and mind you that's only 6..
What a beast! I still think the JP63 is the value leader, but if you want the best, this thing is on the short list for sure! Thanks for the great video!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Until 2yrs later after yo ear get use2 da 6300watts and 20 upgrades, then u gonna kno wat tru value is of buy'n da biggest baddest amp 1st. Only gotta buyit 1tyme plus it does wat da otha jp amps does from 8 to.8 ohms ex: 2ohms = 6300watts, gotta buy 2of Dem to get with diz big boii thts ova 2grand.
@@playaj320 good point
JP is changing the game! I’ve been into car audio since 1987 and never seen anything like this. Keep doing your thing brother. D4S💪🏽
That's insane. The alternators, batteries, wiring, etc would easily cost more than the amp itself. This thing is nuts
Yeah that’s the cost of high powered car audio
That's the big boy,, love how that LTO bank shines, 1400 amps is no small amount. Most excellent video brotha
would need like 15 agm's lol
It's refreshing to see such a bargain especially in these times
Big D ..for the win !
Awesome video and these D4S amps are great value products shaking up the marketplace !
That's impressive! What's even more impressive is that lithium battery bank! WOW!
Took me a couple years to put it together and cost a small fortune but it’s amazingly powerful 💪
Right? I've got a 45ah Panasonic 5.5ah Honda insight cells and at 15.5v I pulled over 3500A for 1sec then the fuses did there job lol
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome you like them cells? Been looking at them. Running lishen 8.5ah cells and love these little beast
@@beefysghost867 yeah I love them when I had it in my house it was sitting at 15.5v no charger on it and I hooked up my 3k rms full bridge amplifier and ran a 20 HZ tone wide open on one of my 15s and after 10 seconds it went from 15.5v to 15.3v but then bounced back to 15.5v in less then 2sec after the burp and I did I total of four consecutive 10-second burps each time in less than 2 seconds it was bouncing back and after 30 seconds worth of wide open it was resting it 15.3v I was like ddddaaammmmmnnnnnn lol that would of straight up killed one of my agms lol
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome my issue is running them at higher voltage. The Honda fit don't care for higher voltage like that
Man I love that amp!!! So glad I brought a JP83!!!
I got 2 😁
I think the reason for the slow ramp on the knob is to keep from going to far to fast. Its to dial it in with a fine toothed comb
Yeah I agree, I think the fine-grain control is more of a positive, than it is a negative point.
It's not like anyone is really going 0-100 in the real world on the level, so fine-grain is a-ok.
@@everyhandletaken totally agree. I mean there are time when I wish there was an in between on my gain knob. This one, has an in-between for the in-between lol
@@lifeonadime4703 this is the gain knob for us haha
I just don’t need the 24 giggawatt amp that it controls!
@@everyhandletaken no lie lol. I only need about 3k in my life and am currently on half that 🙄
@@lifeonadime4703 lol you’re doing better than me then 😂
Astonishing and worth the Price and the Jacob!
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Bro this is killer she is a power house straight up great job absolutely beautiful!!!!!!!!⚡️⚡️🔥🔥
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JP132ab Amp: bit.ly/3yYsEcT (sold out!)
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JP23v1.5: bit.ly/3yYt9DN
JP234 Amp: bit.ly/3NF8clC
JP8 Amp: bit.ly/3wOBbhg
JP84 Amp: bit.ly/3lR2ukJ
JP95 Amp: bit.ly/3yYtd6v
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*Video Playlist of all D4S Amps:*
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
1:04 What's Included?
1:56 Specs and Features
3:07 Size Comparison
3:37 Amp Dyno Tests
7:01 JP's Windy Tahoe
7:38 What's Inside?
8:21 Pros and Cons
9:13 Final Thoughts
9:38 EXTRAS
*Links to JP's Tahoe 2022:*
Build is Complete: ua-cam.com/video/vUyXhhAHtZQ/v-deo.html
Tahoe Rebuild Initial Demos: ua-cam.com/video/1OtwOsmqjzY/v-deo.html
2022 Made of Steele Demos: ua-cam.com/video/vtT2FymEkdg/v-deo.html
2022 Slamology JP Demos: ua-cam.com/video/A5g2dWn8iKA/v-deo.html
2022 Slamology JP Demos Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/gs1ARU55-08/v-deo.html
*_Note:_*_ This video is shown as paid promotion because 1) I'm keeping the amplifier for future testing and 2) I'm an affiliate with Down4SoundShop so using my links in this video to purchase car audio results in compensation for me. I was not paid by D4S for this video. Rest assured the info provided here is factual and my opinions on the product are NOT based on possible compensation. I test amps and provide information for the consumer, what you decide to purchase is your decision. Thank you._
I've been curious about these amps for some time now and I've watched all the dynos you've done on them and I honestly believe them to be the absolute best on the market today. The quality that they are built in as well as the components used in their build are top notch. Why don't they have subwoofers. I think they would knock it outta the park if they did. As always, great video my friend. You know how them sound waves go.... I love it brother!! I get tickled every time I see it.
Next bigD tests a Miller Electric arc welder vs the jp83! Who do you think will take home the crown?
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Thanks for the information, BIG D . I made some changes in the truck, and because of this video, I have made this purchase.
I'm beside myself on this one 🤯. Much respect for those amps.
I'm also kind of curious about the dyo now. What's limits of the dyno at different ohms? (What's the dyo specs?) Did you ever cover this in previous video? If not, would you consider making one?
There is a screenshot near the end showing the limits
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All of these new D4S amps are capable of well beyond raited. Truly some good amps.
Awesome Big D. Question?? Do you get to keep all these JP amps you've tested??
Yes I explain this in the video description
I admirate soo muth JP's productos and you job on this Channel BIGd 👏👏
sounds like steve/D'amore might need to make a beefier dyno model just to get a proper bead on down4sounds product lines. they're gonna be smokin things soon, and the amps just gonna be like 'what, you done?'
Stopit kid 🤣 full bridge amps been on maxx'd tht damn Dyno out. Ex: u haven't seen Tramp 30k or 150k🤔
@@playaj320 FACTS!!
If you are wiring this amp at 8ohms, you need to rethink your setup
Soundigital also makes a 35k for US market and up to a 100K for outside US market
And it's strapppable ....
Big D... do a video with it strapped...😍
I love this amp. My jp23 is my daily right now, and I love it
I already have a salt 8k, but the jp83 looks beast!! would love to hear it hooked up to my subs 😍
Salt 8k puts out 1k more power at less voltage @ 1ohm certified, but D Will won't say it because sundown didn't give him an amp and I guess he doesn't trust other reputable dynos like Derrick from Sundown Unofficial. No salt just saying the real!
@@Mr.NpK143 I saw the sundown unofficial video of it and you're right, yes it does beat the jp as far as voltage to watts but it DOESNT beat the jp when it comes to pricing.. I've been watching the pricing on the salt-8 when it was discounted TWICE on D4S and it was STILL more expensive than the 83.. like by $900 lol. At that point you're better off getting the 83 and grabbing yourself 2 batteries or 1 battery and a bigger Alternator.
@@kkiidd77 finally someone that agrees with the truth 👏 🙌. I said the jp83 was a great value in my first comment. But I also said that we don't know the longevity of the jp amps. And that's also true! Lil D also stated the voltage in this video was enough to run this ampndue to his lithium setup. So it depends on if a person would want to spend extra on the amp or that extra on more electrical. But as we all know that seen the two dynos the sundown salt 8k is stronger even in the low 13s then the jp83 is at over 14.7ish (give or take). That's a hole volt. Imagine if you fed the salt with 14.7ish. There would be no discussion. CAUSE YOU CAN GET YOUR VOLTAGE HIGH AS A KITE AND THE JP83 STILL WOULD NOT NOT OUT PERFORM THE SUNDOWN SALT 8K.
@@Mr.NpK143 ah okay I see what your point is now haha
@@kkiidd77 I'd love to own a couple of Salt 12ks. I presently run 4 wolfram 7500s that are in a close race with the jp83. According to the dynos each has it respected output over the other, but neither amp out performs the Salt 8k. If I sell the 7500s I'll be in the market for two Salt 12ks. Unless JP or anyone else can beat the salt lineup, but I doubt it. Only because JP can't cookie cut the sundown technology. I was called a hater for speaking the truth, Lil D replied to my comments 😆 🤣 , and even JP dissed the consumer suggestion. All because I stated the truth when a fellow bass head asked which is better. He didn't ask which was the cheapest lol. That's no knock to JP cause hell I run wolfram. Even bought one from JP, but neither is better than the 🧂 8k. And oh yeah the difference in price is $800 not $900. D4S claims the regular price is $2250. The Salt 8k is 2300. So jp thinks as much of this amp as sundown does the salt 8k. And if you pay attention Lil D says the JP 83 is 1500 at the time of this video. Same shit that was said on the wolfram 7500 dyno and now its 1500. You know I wouldn't be surprised if the price went up as soon as people start buying the jp83 amp just like wolfram. 🙄.
These Zenon or s@i. Built. The incriminator amps power and ground hookups are all on the same side I like that.
Been waiting for this one but honestly I'm more impressed by the 43 & 63 on how underrated those are. I want a 63 to replace my 23. That also means about another grand though in just electrical upgrades too
Thats the problem, it never ends. I'm content with the 1900 watts at 1 ohm my MTX amp makes. For a daily driver I don't even need more than half that power anyways
They are all quality amps and you’ll see the tech in other brands soon
the 33, 43, 63 were more impressive at 1% distortion.
fr I got the 23 for 250 bucks tho so I had to get it. right before they came out with all these new ones lol. but I actually like my bass knobs attenuation sensitivity and don't have the extra grand plus in more electrical like you lol. to supply this beast. one day tho...
@@zanechristiansen one day homie, one day lol
I take it that one's going to be a permanent staple in your collection 🤯🥳🎉👋👋
A wireless Bass Knob. You would not think this is a big deal. Wait till you use one. And then it's hard to go back. This should have been done YEARS ago. But there ya have it. JP doing what needs to be done. And what people want.
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Kicker did it first on their KX line a few years back
@@catch22frubert Thing is? I never heard of it. I would have been the first to line up and buy one! Oh the hell it was going under the carpet and taking out the seats to route cables to multiple amps in my ride! 😄
JP’s new Tahoe is truly insane. If there’s actually a such thing as too much bass that’s it. The demos he’s doing are probably 8th volume. If he pushed it far enough that system would literally blow the truck apart.
Yeah it sure looks that way!
WOW !!!! What an amp !!! D4S for the win !! Awesome !!!!!!!!!
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I’ve been waiting for this test as I currently have 2 of these in the cart ready to order!!
JP is changing the game, in a positive way. If I had access to these last year when I bought a Sundown Salt 4K, I would have purchased the 8K DFS instead. I'm very very happy with the performance of the Salt 4K, but these appear to be slightly superior in build quality. (Not to mention I basically paid double for half the performance of the amp shown) Def something to keep in mind going forward. Thanks BigD and JP!
The price to performance on the JP amps is insane 😳
I replaced my sundown salt 6k for the JP83 the power output is good. The bass remote is annoying, it resets the bass to zero whenever you pair the remote to the amp and it takes too many revolutions to turn the bass back up. Direct connect bass knob like the sundown salt or the JP 23 is much better.
Great feedback 👍
I think they do it for safety so you don't wreck your equipment.
Safety buddy
Looks like I'm ordering one. I'm starting a new project for my 97 2 door Tahoe. My 18 sub is a older one a Solo X which was barely used from my brother. He used it for like 2 weeks back then then switched to 2 Fi BTL's. Solo X 18 still looks new I'm taking it out the basement and putting this amp on it😂
I couldn't afford to power that beast. Still amazed at the build quality and freaking ginormous power for the price. If you want a beast amplifier and can handle the current draw this is the monster 4 u
I would have to remove the engine from the car & sell that, just to afford half of the power needed (and would also then have to push my car around.. not super convenient).
It would free up some space for batteries though... just won't be able to keep them charged lol
Hook it up to the quad box, I quadruple dare you! Lol
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Nah let that poor quad box live it only has L7R subs at least need L7S to be taking some power these are like L5 subs .in my opinion.
lets this comment be... ive been following jp for some time. he come a long way. from tearing his tahoe apart becase he got burned on his install to installing his own product in the tahoe. there are few people that can say theyve done it. but jp is true a inspiration . also. big d wiz. hes developed his channel quite a bit. a apprecite him working with locals like smd,gately,ultra audio. keep up the good content . bless up
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Mind blown! .5 dynamic is dicriculous
Personally, I think this amp is a hell of a bargain, especially considering back in my day, most amps were roughly $1 per watt.
I’m getting back into the bass because it was expensive in the 90’s. I’m reliving my dreams.
@@nickdills2031 It was expensive in the mid 80's too. Hafler, Rockford Fosgate, Orion. Great memories though!
JPs amps output reminds me of Orions. That man putting out some serious equipment
Speaking of Orion, 4500.1DSPLX coming next week 👌
@@wal 😳🤯🤯
Impressive power but CapXon capcitors are horrible junk. That's what behringer uses in their power supplies and I've made a lot of money replacing those with nichicons after they fail within a couple years.
Great feedback I’ll pass along 👌
Agreed.. I kind of expect cheaper caps in lower priced but power dense amps. When we are starting to get up over the 700 dollar price point the cost of a name brand cap really isn't that big of a hit to the net profit on the amp. Plus it would show dedication to quality with that clear bottom cover.
@@Adamhc75 it's almost ironic that they offer the clear cover but maybe not many people know which caps are good or bad.
You are spot on! Rubycon or Nichicon FTW!
Wow, those numbers are insane! Amp never even went into protect, JP did it again.
Dam! So all the JP amps have done better numbers than the Sundown Salt amps. Thats crazy!
same as a billion other boards...
@@96kylar such as.... ?
@@vasquez3769 taramps for 1 lol
@@Ninjasraynonu3 Taramps?? 🤣 😂 go educate yourself
@@vasquez3769 you asked the question and I answered it, I’m very well educated appreciate it though
JP is killing it right now!!!!
Facts!
23,578w @14.36v is nothing to sneeze at. You must have a massive battery bank to stay over 14v.
It’s a bit of a unicorn score being 0.5 resistive and dynamic but still crazy impressive
@@wal Even at 10k watts that's a huge draw. How much time between clips do you wait before doing your next run. I assume there must be some recharge time between runs.
@@ChannelZeroOne honestly I was mainly waiting for the Dyno to cool down. The 320aH LTO bank can support 2 of these amps easily
He tows a Tesla behind him
1500 amps. I don't think there's anything unicorn about that! The couple Tesla powerwalls should cover it, lol😂
I thought something was going to break while testing this amplifier. I so glad it didn’t happen!
That's a lot of bumps lol.
I remember back in the day having 2000 watts made you king of the world..
How times change.
Yeah man $2-5 a watt is what I remember
@@wal exactly. And thats for inflation. Would be double now.
Wow by by crescendo bc4k hello jp83🥰 just sealed the deal on my upgrade.
1499.99 is a pretty decent price for an 8k. Not gonna lie.
Or. Just get 3 taramps 8ks and have some change leftover
@@EcSsAwS Quality over quantity for me
Pass
Taramp all the way
More like $1499 for a 10k with headroom…as long as you have the electrical to support
I would usually like to see 4 output chokes instead of just 2. But I guess if it does the numbers. Still a lot of load on them. Another great vid.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Ok. I'm officially impressed. I love my SALT-8. I will pick up one of these as a backup.
You should do a Video Expos'e on the POWER END. Multiple alternators and batteries... cabling... all the POWER SUPPLY side thats needed to run multiple 25,000 watt amplifiers. Thats what I am most interested in seeing.... 1200 amps.... continuous... Lets see a video on the POWER side BigDWiz.... BDBD/2022
Man JP AINT PLAYING BUT HEY THE KING OF BASS ain’t go sell you nothing he ain’t go put in his own much respect this vid was impressive and I will be purchasing two..
Sweet please use my link if you do 👌
😳 now that’s what you call power. JP for the win. Gotta love Down 4 Sound
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That is insane power!
That is totally insane !!! Cheers for the video informative and detailed as always !
May I ask how many ah your lithium bank is you run the tests off ? 20k+ on a burst and only half a volt drop is great !!!
320aH of LTO
I’m in need of 2 big amps 8-10kw
I was planning on something cheap like taramps, but I just might spend double the money 💵 and buy 2 money amps from d4s.
Is it me or does these line of amplifiers resemble the us amps.i think the jp amps look just like the old us amps.great design and great build quality.
Finally, an amp that does not have bass boost option. Why do these amp manufacturers still include bass boost when everyone knows not to use it? Happy to see JP omitted bass boost on this one.
Finally an amp that's worth the money!
Hole E Fornication that’s impressive!
I have the Jp23 & Jp234 combo unused and feel pretty good about my new build already. Going from a Rockford power 550x “50wx4” and a “500W” Rockford power bd1001 to the Jp23/4 combo should be a nice treat. Now my Rockford amps have lasted since 2002 until now so we’ll see if the Jp”s will have longevity like that or not? Thank you for the videos Big D I really enjoy learning with you. One love ☝️ ❤️
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you need to get the i-link flexible amp clamp cord addon that should have come with that mater. I have that exact meter and i came with it, its like 3' long for busses or cable groups
I got a demo this weekend and was blown away im already ordering one for my duramax
I can imagine a Big D line up in the future... We got the Small D up to the XL D to satisfy your needs. Great content for sure and maybe one day I can install some of my old gear or maybe try these smaller JP amps to get some thump back in the old work truck.
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This baby plays until it blows, Great gonna pick one up.
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As someone who ran all Orion back in the day (late 80s / early 90s), 8 Orion 12s and 16 8s. 12 xtr2150 amps.
I can say, D4S is really impressive.
And their customer service is really good, too.
Nice, were a few of us who ran big Orion setups like that from the Sarasota area at that time. Good old days.
@@thomasmroz Orion was the one back in the day.
With 4.8kw of sub bass I thought I was the man.
This amp shows I was a rooty poot! Lol
@@shaneyouhouse The difference in tech now is pretty amazing. I couldn't imagine tying to supply 1400A of current on the electricals we had back then.
Here we go
Ah, why it gotta be green? I want one so bad lol. But that color doesn't mesh w my setup at all lol. Been considering Deaf Bonce Apocalypse 8k too. Same price🤷♂️
Man Man man JP u did it this time
Daaaaaaamn! What was the current pull on the .5 ohm run? I’m guessing over 1500 amps?
a lot of car audio fans don't understand just what it takes to make power output. will these work on stock setup for sure
but you will never see these numbers until you go big
1400 amps is no joke that is real amp draw serious
Getting two of these strapped to power 4 b2 rampage 15's xmv4's d1's in parallel series at 2 ohms(1 ohm each amp). I just need to find out which lto's I want and 2-3 400 anp alts
I clamped one of these wired down to 0.33 made almost 12k with rise on three subwoofers
Can you compare this too the ds 18 hooligan ko 8 on size vs power efficiency. I think the ko series takes the cake on Korean halfbridge for size to power ratio. Maybe dd audio m8000?
could you actually fry a amp dyno or is it well protected? ... also it would be cool to see the inside of the dyno sometime!
and do you need to recalibrate the dyno from time to time? does whatever is inside that thing wear out?
I gotta ask this and it might be stupid but o'well. In JP's Tahoe is that sub steering wheel hooked up or is it just for looks?
I was definitely expecting to see something give. WoW. But,, Do It Bump Doe??😁
could you make the comparison to these amps with the crescendo monoblocks?They have a lot of similarities from the outside to me.
Bass clef 6k
They are very similar to the bass clef and salts. Same buildhouse.
These JP amps have all surface mount devices and are smaller than current gen SALT and BC amps. I bet next gen of those will be smaller tho
Cray,Cray... All the way!! .5 ohm load @ the end tho 🤯❤
Amps are built like tanks
@@wal that is scary power tho
You got enough power for that Taramps 160k?
THESE AMPS (JP83) on Lithium power... (X9) would be around 135,000 watts RMS @1ohm nominal on Dynamic music. At 0.5 ohms nominal on Dynamic music that's around 207,000 watts RMS . This is all theoretically dependent on Power setup, etc., but I believe D4S JP series amplifiers are the best in the world, Same with GATLEY Audio. There build is SO strong, its amazing.
Wow!! 1642 burst amps required for one amp. Serious electrical upgrades required. Insanely impressive!!!! By far the craziest amp I have seen.
Need some lifiums for sure
@@wal would need like 15 agm battery's to run this bitch haha
That is a beast of an amplifier
Surge Audio 10k debating on which to go with JP83 🤔
Amp looks like a beast for sure. i was looking to maybe run a Salt 8 on 2 15s but might have to consider this jp83 i definitely like the 83% efficiency at 1ohm which id definitely rather run at 1 ohm then .5ohm.
This definitely could run my tweeters with aplomb!👍
As long as they are efficient and bullet tweets 🤣
Big D I bought 2 jp33 and they don't disappoint but they are hungry got to have power just ordered 64 headway cells from battery hookup can't wait to see what they do with power
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but can it play 20k for a long period of time at 0.5 ohms?
The need to make a version 2 f this D4S JP83