@@wyvernnemecek595 goddamn you got me good 🤣 And yeah, cottage core is basically an aesthetic. Like how the main pair in Barbie and the Crystal Palace are basically a cottage core lesbian couple.
My fan theory is that the Tweedy's are Wallace's parents and they are disappointed from him wanting to be an inventor and general contractor instead of being a farmer and helping them.
@@madestmadhatter this sounds plausible as Wallace and Gromit according to design of buildings and vehicles takes place in same time maybe sometime before Grand day out, but Shawn the sheep spin off less likely takes place in same period, as some episodes features modern cars, of 2000 era
"If I had a nickel for every time Buried Entertainment delved into the complex philosophy of Chicken Run, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice"
"But if films from my childhood have taught me anything, it's that hardships just don't automatically end once you get there." This sounds foreboding for real life.
Another major thing DOTN adds to this theory: *_Tweedy is now fully aware of the chickens' sentience._* And, knowing full well they're as sentient as her, she sets up a mega chicken factory that seems like a chicken paradise... only with _mind control_ to make the chickens unalive themselves on command. Arguably, learning that the chickens are sentient actually made her _more_ evil toward them.
This was basically my mom's take on the movie when it first came out. Aside from, of course, saying Mr. Tweedy should've shown more backbone - they both would've been happier for it.
Uh oh. Someone sounds angry. Let's be honest. Chicken Run is shown from the perspective of the chickens, so of course we'd route for them. But yeah, it's clear Mr. and Mrs. Tweedee's relationship isn't healthy. In fact, I've always followed the idea that Mrs. Tweedee married Mr. Tweedee out of profit. Sell eggs, get rich. No eggs? Sell or eat the chickens. That's basically how it is here. But I think Mrs. Tweedee is also so driven by the profit and her vision that it's believable she'd go to great lengths such as changing the farm to a pie factory. As for the other question you pointed out, there is a chance we might see something like that in the sequel that's in the works.
I think this comes down to a perspective thing. In this movie you see the world from the perspective of the chickens, so obviously the farmers trying to kill the chickens are the bad guys. Its a similar thing that happens in Ratatouille and Fantastic Mr. Fox, you have antagonists who arent nessisarily evil but have their own interests and dont realise that the animals are sentient. At least initially. the bad guys here are shown being unpleasant, morally dubious, or even sadistic in some cases like with farmer bean, but wouldnt be seen as evil nessisarily if we watched the circumstances of the movie from their perspective Super amazing video by the way, I always love watching your strange film breakdowns!
Considering these chickens were capale of constructing a @#$%-ing airplane and subduing a full grown man, I think they're probably capable of constructing shelters (or other defenses) to Protect themselves from wild predators. Unless of course the wild predators are just as intelligent and capable of complex tool use as the chickens and rats, which frankly raises some pretty terrifying implications as to why Mr. Tweedy needed two guard dogs and a gun for his patrols...
One aside. In the case of Wall-E they still have a ship shown to be capable of synthesizing food for a population of their exact size, meaning they will have sufficient nutritional support and shelter while building up an agricultural base.
Keep up the great work Buried Entertainment! You may not upload often but its always a treat when you do. Thanks for putting the effort in and letting things take the time they need.
The chickens *are* actually intelligent tho. Regular chickens don’t build planes. *Both* the Tweedys witnessed that bullshit. Considering the chickens’ proven consciousness, I think a better question to ask is how did sentient chickens and humans end up in a straight up cannibalism-slavery type deal?? Presumably world-wide too considering Rocky’s also proven sentience and intelligence?? Aardman Animations’ two most famous franchises also feature intelligent but otherwise unremarkable animals: dogs, and sheep. Rabbits, rats, and plenty of other animals have also been shown to have intelligence and incredibly varied relationships with humans in the… oh god, i can’t believe I’m saying this…Aardman canon. The weird thing though is that all the humans in general act kinda crazy about it? Across pretty much every film?? Like, Wallace is usually the only person who knows his dog could pay rent, and other humans seem to just treat him like a regular dog??? Even though he’s obviously not???Shaun is treated differently by different people?? Even though he can wear clothes and use a bus??? Why are MOST of the humans super fucking dense but some arent??? How did the world end up like this is the real question 🤔🤔 amazing vid btw really got me thinkin too i guess 😆
I’m gonna apply the “don’t think too much about it” is a legit thing in the world. Some people actively choose to ignore the fact to save them the sanity over the morality of their reality. After all- animals still eat animals at the end of the day in universe (the wilds and all) so it stands to reason humans just fall into the category of “choose to turn a blind eye. They’re animals. That’s it” and proceed to ignore the obvious. And I’m turn, the reason those that see this and acknowledge this don’t constantly interfere is likely just likewise another example of live and let live. And to some degree simply accept and respect everyone’s viewpoints because more than likely the fighting that hypothetically can and did take place was simply not worth the loss of human life over a very natural occurrence.
Ok so in the wrong trousers there are many places that don't allow dogs and in the park there's a sign that says dogs need to be on leashes. Wallace goes back and forth on how he treats grommet from a dog to a friend constantly, which isn't too surprising as Wallace is kinda a self centered jerk lol. In the next one with the sheep grommet is convicted as a sheep killer and sent to life in prison. Does that mean the society acknowledges the animal's sentience? In the wererabbit the Lord is a hunter which is considered a terrible thing by most in the village but he's not sent to any prisons. I think the animals killing is only taken seriously when another animal is commiting the crimes, or quite possibly, when it is greatly impacting humans as grommet only really went away for serial sheep stealing.
Look into the old Chevron adverts-- this includes vehicles of all sizes and stripes. Several semis, your kid's school bus, the family SUV, and even your grandmother's beautiful vintage cruiser. One wonders what implications ensue of the pie machine itself...
Cats are probably one of the worst examples you could give of domesticated animals not doing well without dependence on humans. Sure there are definitely cats that would not do well like fancy purebreds like persians and angoras, but the average run of the mill mixed lineage common shorthair doesn't need us _at all._ Yes cats are vulnerable to predators such as canids and birds of prey, but cats are such merciless killing machines they do not need us to provide for them at all. Cats are probably the #1 hazardous invasive species of all time alongside pigs and rats, absolute ecology destroyers capable of driving small animals to extinction.
And this is the main problem with death of the author. It leads to audience members projecting all sorts of crazy and asinine ideas and theories into a fictional work that is not even remotely relevant to said work. Chicken Run is an allegory. Whenever you see anthropomorphic animals, or even in a simple personified state, they're not just humanized for the sake of pleasing the kids. They're humanized for allegorical reasons. The core conflict of Chicken Run is slavery versus freedom. And though the ideas of overpopulation and invasive species are relevant problems--and many allegorical works tend to forget to acknowledge these sorts of ideas in the process--what ultimately matters is the end results. And on that front, Chicken Run is a success. I'd probably give it an 8 or a 9 out of 10 simply because it forgets to remember the realistic side of things.
My best guess is just because they don't have real food and have to grow it with no other seeds, but even then I still don't think they'd starve cuz if the main plant was able to survive, there could be some fruit or vegetable seeds on earth that are left.
@@cyanity1017 except the Axiom didn't crash land, and the only sign of food shortage on the Axiom was the decline in the passengers' health which may have been the result of subpar nutrition per food item, but was probably just the result of the passengers gravitating towards the easiest options
They really wanted to show Mrs tweedy as an evil person by having her be flat out abusive towards Mr tweedy and she's even more ruthless in the sequel where she brain washes chickens into being happy
Mrs. Tweety was going to burn through her only source of revenue within a week, killing one troublesome chicken even though it was still producing could be forgiven, in theory, but it wasn't just going to be the one troublesome chicken. Her intent was to kill all the birds, and she took no consideration on what would happen next, her farm had one cock on it, and at his age it was unlikely he was fertilizing many if any of the eggs, and even if we were to assume he was secretly a super stud, they were still harvesting 100% of the eggs while she was fattening them up! she never took the actions necessary to ensure the success of her new venture and sunk a ton of money into the pie making contraption, so I will stand for none of this "she was an entrepreneurial woman fighting for her place in a man's world" she just hated those chickens and wanted them gone, consequences be damned. No, it doesn't make sense, there were no incoming replacement chickens, and while you can buy more chickens in theory, they aren't the most expensive livestock to raise and would continue to make a secondary source of income and, if allowed to, replenish their own numbers, so it makes sense to introduce a rooster for that purpose, removing the veteran if need be, plot off a portion of the chickens for production, and actively bring in more chicken so when the time comes you're ready. The chicken were everything, her current source of income and her future source of income, not planning on having a couple chicken breeding and ready is just asking for trouble. Human extermination is a consideration, but Ginger isn't the only abnormal chicken in their squad, the old rooster had still picked up on some military practices and seemed to have a certain level of understanding for defending a location, the smart chicken would likely develop contraptions to help them fortify their location and insulate their homes, they're likely still trading eggs with the rats for outside resources and much of their current population was exiting the egg producing stage of life anyways so their population should maintain sustainable levels for a couple generations. But people, people will come the only thing is what they see when they come, chickens with houses, catapults and knitting needles who are defiantly defending their new home, I think the most probable end result for these chickens would be to be collected and studied, not hunted.
gosh i love this. its overanalysing a movie, but not in a cynical way, i dont see that very often, very well constructed also some nice choices for filler visuals, i wasnt expecting the dont starve music video ill tell you that much
It is a pleasure to have you post something. And honestly, your insight really covered something for a project I have been working on and I cannot find your return more of a blessing! I hope everything is going well for you and, as always, I look forward to your next insight.
I am so happy I stumbled across your channel. Also you using the Don't Starve clip made me realize you sound exactly how I thought Wilson (the man with the hair shaped like a "W") would sound!
Mrs. Tweedy did know the chickens are sentient, at least at the climax of the movie. She sees the evidence of it and still tries to kill them, and even before then, she clearly takes enjoyment in killing the chickens that don’t lay eggs.
The idea of the egg theory works really well especially in the case that the sequel has Mrs. Tweedy marries another person that similarly resembles Mr. Tweedy... They aren't a great match still but it either shows she has a type or she just is gravitated into a relationship mindset and can't get her mind off of her past
I'm so glad that you're back too I like your videos you're very interesting and it's nice to hear a point of view of a side of a character that I didn't really think of when watching the film you know there's a sequel coming out wonder if they'll explore any of this?
My personal theory is that the chickens will be forced to look for a new home or that someone is gonna get kidnapped and the coop will have to go and rescue him/her, besides from that I got nothing.
@@BuriedEntertainment apparently it's gonna be about the main couple's kid and some new villain and the Tweedys won't even be in it. It sounds like their going for more of a heist movie, break IN instead of OUT thing. With a young character to appeal to the youth market.
@@BuriedEntertainment I hope your theory is right and also thanks for replying man you're like talking to a celebrity I like the ending theme song is that the short version or is there a longer version?
literally a few days ago i realized i hadn't heard from this channel in a while. pleasantly surprised to see a notification from here not too long after!
I feel like this film has some horrific implications. So all animals are sapient, but humans don't know it (a deliberate choice by the animals). So why are these creatures keeping this secret to their own detriment? All feed lots are prison camps, all farms become places where atrocities are committed every day.
A late reply. But I would assume real life reactions to a talking animal- especially in that era. A talking animal wouldn’t fall under a “wow! Another sapient being!” But a “DEMON!!!” Look at the history of things like black cats and other perceived “devil animals”. All of them are killed. You could potentially headcanon that animals DID speak to humans at one point… and that may have been the trigger to the dark ages in this universe. To which they would have desperately kept this secret since. Even at that point in time, anyone that wasn’t a child would see such a thing as an abomination or something ill meaning. And for a woman like Tweedy, she would likely see this as a further threat… or potentially put the chickens into an even worse scenario than prior. The imprisonment ideal would become less an implication than it would a very literal thing. In short, it would be a domino of chaos with potential disastrous consequences.
@@RogueT-Rex8468 I dunno, the husband didn't seem too surprised and Mrs. Tweedy wasn't all that surprised either, lead angry. Plus, building a giant flying machine is a pretty significant announcement to the world that you are sapient. I still would argue that the chickens are themselves responsible for their predicament, as they have made the choice to hide their intelligence from humans.
@@WobblesandBean I was speaking generally about the reaction. I honestly am not surprised that the tweedys reacted so subdued as Mrs. Tweedy is just a unit of a woman, and her husband seems to be a conspiracy guy (those have suspicions but not everyone reacts large even when proven correct). This in mind, again as I said in my previous comment, this wouldn’t phase their motives but likely make things morally screwed up with the knowledge they are sapient. As for the construct, they were the only ones (if I recall) that even saw that contraption. And even if they weren’t, no one would believe anyone saying “the chickens did it”. But you are correct in the chickens putting themselves into this predicament- but when it comes down to it, their actions revealing it could potentially cause worse issues for other chickens down the line. The ripple effect of chaos could be catastrophic.
While as kids we rooted for the chickens. As adults, we understood where Mr & Mrs. Tweedy are coming from. If your source of income , livelihood & on the brink of bankruptcy. You would be desperate too.
I wonder movies like this would go if the animals would show humans their conciousness. Would they really continue to murder chickens if it turned out they were capable of reasonable thought? A lot of more money could be made with chickens of human intellect than with pies after all.
i had a theory once that melisha tweedy was born to a low income family and thus was ridiculed for it. thus her focus on profits over much else "melisha tweedy will be poor no longer" sounds like it comes from a deep place if ya ask me
Might want to throw in that before birth control was a thing, women were constantly getting pregnant so women probably came across as stupid to men because of what's known as "pregnancy brain." Mrs. Tweedy since her husband is infertile but she is ambitious actually helps her in the sense that she can be seen as a threat to anyone else who owns a business within the same field as her. No pregnancies, means perhaps not among the rest or stupid.
Well she is physically abusing her husband, she isn’t a protagonist. We shouldn’t stand or abuse in the name of “a woman in a man’s world” as a woman, I don’t want abusive people to be the ones that people think of when they think of women business owners
One can't help but wonder, are all chickens sapient in this universe? Ms. Tweedy's reactions would suggest no. But then how did she end up with an entire batch of them? Then again, Rocky was sapient, as were the rats. Which would suggest sapience in non-humans in maybe even semi-common. Either way, it would raise a lot of questions that I imagine a funny little family flick wouldn't feel the need to go into.
The chickens managed to create a muscle powered airplane, I think they will manage to survive the winter lol Assuming they discover agriculture of course Also, can't the people from Wall-e just eat the food from the ship until they manage to get agriculture going?
Us: Oh, I thought you were dead…
BE: my death was greatly exaggerated.
I KNOW RIGHT
his not dead
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You can say the same guy Mrs. tweedy in the second movie
You’re just defending her cause she’s your goth cottage core Waifu
And thats the perfect reason
“Cottage core” is now something I’ll be looking into
@@wyvernnemecek595 What did you find?
@ Beautiful houses since it’s an aesthetic trend based on idealized rural life. Thatched roofs, garden vistas, not to mention fantastic photography
@@wyvernnemecek595 goddamn you got me good 🤣
And yeah, cottage core is basically an aesthetic. Like how the main pair in Barbie and the Crystal Palace are basically a cottage core lesbian couple.
My fan theory is that the Tweedy's are Wallace's parents and they are disappointed from him wanting to be an inventor and general contractor instead of being a farmer and helping them.
And after they go bankrupt the Farmer from Shawn the Sheep, buys the farm.....
@@jackalenterprisesofohio I love both theories
But... Could that mean Wallace designed the pie machine? It would explain how Mrs. Tweet could afford it.
@@madestmadhatter imagine Wallace and Gromit were in this film
@@madestmadhatter this sounds plausible as Wallace and Gromit according to design of buildings and vehicles takes place in same time maybe sometime before Grand day out, but Shawn the sheep spin off less likely takes place in same period, as some episodes features modern cars, of 2000 era
"If I had a nickel for every time Buried Entertainment delved into the complex philosophy of Chicken Run, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice"
Didn’t know there was actually hot art of Tweedy.
Learn something new every day I guess.
Rule 34 ALWAYS applies...
i think we all know Buried Entertainment made it happen, if not by paying for comissions memeing into people's brains to the point it happened
No exceptions
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Now I'm getting curious
"But if films from my childhood have taught me anything, it's that hardships just don't automatically end once you get there."
This sounds foreboding for real life.
So glad you're back. I missed your devilishly charming voice
Same
I to subscribe just to hear his voice and his opinions too but mostly his voice
His voice is hypnotic, isn't it?!
He has the perfect audiobook voice in my opinion lol
Coming back since Dawn of the nugget is out:
1. They subsist on berries and popcorn
2. They built houses & a water mill
Another major thing DOTN adds to this theory: *_Tweedy is now fully aware of the chickens' sentience._* And, knowing full well they're as sentient as her, she sets up a mega chicken factory that seems like a chicken paradise... only with _mind control_ to make the chickens unalive themselves on command. Arguably, learning that the chickens are sentient actually made her _more_ evil toward them.
The fact that a kids movie like Chicken Run exists is kind of fascinating. Glad you’re back!
This was basically my mom's take on the movie when it first came out. Aside from, of course, saying Mr. Tweedy should've shown more backbone - they both would've been happier for it.
Uh oh. Someone sounds angry.
Let's be honest. Chicken Run is shown from the perspective of the chickens, so of course we'd route for them. But yeah, it's clear Mr. and Mrs. Tweedee's relationship isn't healthy.
In fact, I've always followed the idea that Mrs. Tweedee married Mr. Tweedee out of profit. Sell eggs, get rich. No eggs? Sell or eat the chickens. That's basically how it is here. But I think Mrs. Tweedee is also so driven by the profit and her vision that it's believable she'd go to great lengths such as changing the farm to a pie factory.
As for the other question you pointed out, there is a chance we might see something like that in the sequel that's in the works.
same
I think this comes down to a perspective thing. In this movie you see the world from the perspective of the chickens, so obviously the farmers trying to kill the chickens are the bad guys. Its a similar thing that happens in Ratatouille and Fantastic Mr. Fox, you have antagonists who arent nessisarily evil but have their own interests and dont realise that the animals are sentient. At least initially.
the bad guys here are shown being unpleasant, morally dubious, or even sadistic in some cases like with farmer bean, but wouldnt be seen as evil nessisarily if we watched the circumstances of the movie from their perspective
Super amazing video by the way, I always love watching your strange film breakdowns!
Exactly
Considering these chickens were capale of constructing a @#$%-ing airplane and subduing a full grown man, I think they're probably capable of constructing shelters (or other defenses) to Protect themselves from wild predators. Unless of course the wild predators are just as intelligent and capable of complex tool use as the chickens and rats, which frankly raises some pretty terrifying implications as to why Mr. Tweedy needed two guard dogs and a gun for his patrols...
One aside. In the case of Wall-E they still have a ship shown to be capable of synthesizing food for a population of their exact size, meaning they will have sufficient nutritional support and shelter while building up an agricultural base.
I was worried for a moment that me subscribing had destroyed this channel altogether. Glad to see a new video!
Now there's a mood. Seems like I'm always discovering things just as they're ending 😑
What wouldyou think that
In under one minute you were on the verge of going full awooga for Mrs. Tweedy. Needless to say, your impeccable taste has earned another subscriber.
Keep up the great work Buried Entertainment! You may not upload often but its always a treat when you do. Thanks for putting the effort in and letting things take the time they need.
The chickens *are* actually intelligent tho. Regular chickens don’t build planes. *Both* the Tweedys witnessed that bullshit.
Considering the chickens’ proven consciousness, I think a better question to ask is how did sentient chickens and humans end up in a straight up cannibalism-slavery type deal?? Presumably world-wide too considering Rocky’s also proven sentience and intelligence?? Aardman Animations’ two most famous franchises also feature intelligent but otherwise unremarkable animals: dogs, and sheep. Rabbits, rats, and plenty of other animals have also been shown to have intelligence and incredibly varied relationships with humans in the… oh god, i can’t believe I’m saying this…Aardman canon.
The weird thing though is that all the humans in general act kinda crazy about it? Across pretty much every film?? Like, Wallace is usually the only person who knows his dog could pay rent, and other humans seem to just treat him like a regular dog??? Even though he’s obviously not???Shaun is treated differently by different people?? Even though he can wear clothes and use a bus??? Why are MOST of the humans super fucking dense but some arent???
How did the world end up like this is the real question 🤔🤔
amazing vid btw really got me thinkin too i guess 😆
I’m gonna apply the “don’t think too much about it” is a legit thing in the world. Some people actively choose to ignore the fact to save them the sanity over the morality of their reality. After all- animals still eat animals at the end of the day in universe (the wilds and all) so it stands to reason humans just fall into the category of “choose to turn a blind eye. They’re animals. That’s it” and proceed to ignore the obvious.
And I’m turn, the reason those that see this and acknowledge this don’t constantly interfere is likely just likewise another example of live and let live. And to some degree simply accept and respect everyone’s viewpoints because more than likely the fighting that hypothetically can and did take place was simply not worth the loss of human life over a very natural occurrence.
Ok so in the wrong trousers there are many places that don't allow dogs and in the park there's a sign that says dogs need to be on leashes. Wallace goes back and forth on how he treats grommet from a dog to a friend constantly, which isn't too surprising as Wallace is kinda a self centered jerk lol. In the next one with the sheep grommet is convicted as a sheep killer and sent to life in prison. Does that mean the society acknowledges the animal's sentience? In the wererabbit the Lord is a hunter which is considered a terrible thing by most in the village but he's not sent to any prisons. I think the animals killing is only taken seriously when another animal is commiting the crimes, or quite possibly, when it is greatly impacting humans as grommet only really went away for serial sheep stealing.
Look into the old Chevron adverts-- this includes vehicles of all sizes and stripes. Several semis, your kid's school bus, the family SUV, and even your grandmother's beautiful vintage cruiser.
One wonders what implications ensue of the pie machine itself...
@@devinpaul9026 HUH? THE *MACHINES* ARE SENTIENT TOO??? AARDMAN WHAT THE FUCK???
I do not think that that qualifies as cannibalism.
Cats are probably one of the worst examples you could give of domesticated animals not doing well without dependence on humans. Sure there are definitely cats that would not do well like fancy purebreds like persians and angoras, but the average run of the mill mixed lineage common shorthair doesn't need us _at all._ Yes cats are vulnerable to predators such as canids and birds of prey, but cats are such merciless killing machines they do not need us to provide for them at all. Cats are probably the #1 hazardous invasive species of all time alongside pigs and rats, absolute ecology destroyers capable of driving small animals to extinction.
Blathers simping for a lady who kills birds for a living is canon now
And this is the main problem with death of the author. It leads to audience members projecting all sorts of crazy and asinine ideas and theories into a fictional work that is not even remotely relevant to said work. Chicken Run is an allegory. Whenever you see anthropomorphic animals, or even in a simple personified state, they're not just humanized for the sake of pleasing the kids. They're humanized for allegorical reasons. The core conflict of Chicken Run is slavery versus freedom. And though the ideas of overpopulation and invasive species are relevant problems--and many allegorical works tend to forget to acknowledge these sorts of ideas in the process--what ultimately matters is the end results. And on that front, Chicken Run is a success. I'd probably give it an 8 or a 9 out of 10 simply because it forgets to remember the realistic side of things.
12:55 how would the humans end up starving? they still have the Axiom, and whatever facilities it presumably had for food production?
My best guess is just because they don't have real food and have to grow it with no other seeds, but even then I still don't think they'd starve cuz if the main plant was able to survive, there could be some fruit or vegetable seeds on earth that are left.
@@cyanity1017 except the Axiom didn't crash land, and the only sign of food shortage on the Axiom was the decline in the passengers' health which may have been the result of subpar nutrition per food item, but was probably just the result of the passengers gravitating towards the easiest options
Yeah chickens breed real fast.
My dad used to keep the ornamental chicken (for pets only) from like 3 it became 120 ++ we had tk sell most of them
glad to see you guys back.
I had no idea that anyone simped for Tweedy and yet here we are.
They really wanted to show Mrs tweedy as an evil person by having her be flat out abusive towards Mr tweedy and she's even more ruthless in the sequel where she brain washes chickens into being happy
THE KING HAS RETURNED !
Mrs. Tweety was going to burn through her only source of revenue within a week, killing one troublesome chicken even though it was still producing could be forgiven, in theory, but it wasn't just going to be the one troublesome chicken. Her intent was to kill all the birds, and she took no consideration on what would happen next, her farm had one cock on it, and at his age it was unlikely he was fertilizing many if any of the eggs, and even if we were to assume he was secretly a super stud, they were still harvesting 100% of the eggs while she was fattening them up!
she never took the actions necessary to ensure the success of her new venture and sunk a ton of money into the pie making contraption, so I will stand for none of this "she was an entrepreneurial woman fighting for her place in a man's world" she just hated those chickens and wanted them gone, consequences be damned.
No, it doesn't make sense, there were no incoming replacement chickens, and while you can buy more chickens in theory, they aren't the most expensive livestock to raise and would continue to make a secondary source of income and, if allowed to, replenish their own numbers, so it makes sense to introduce a rooster for that purpose, removing the veteran if need be, plot off a portion of the chickens for production, and actively bring in more chicken so when the time comes you're ready. The chicken were everything, her current source of income and her future source of income, not planning on having a couple chicken breeding and ready is just asking for trouble.
Human extermination is a consideration, but Ginger isn't the only abnormal chicken in their squad, the old rooster had still picked up on some military practices and seemed to have a certain level of understanding for defending a location, the smart chicken would likely develop contraptions to help them fortify their location and insulate their homes, they're likely still trading eggs with the rats for outside resources and much of their current population was exiting the egg producing stage of life anyways so their population should maintain sustainable levels for a couple generations. But people, people will come the only thing is what they see when they come, chickens with houses, catapults and knitting needles who are defiantly defending their new home, I think the most probable end result for these chickens would be to be collected and studied, not hunted.
gosh i love this. its overanalysing a movie, but not in a cynical way, i dont see that very often, very well constructed
also some nice choices for filler visuals, i wasnt expecting the dont starve music video ill tell you that much
Want to know how I know Chicken Run takes place in an alternate version of England? Mr. Tweedy has a shotgun.
It is a pleasure to have you post something.
And honestly, your insight really covered something for a project I have been working on and I cannot find your return more of a blessing!
I hope everything is going well for you and, as always, I look forward to your next insight.
The only thing I remember from this movie is Mrs. Tweedy screaming out "STUPID WORTHLESS CREATURES!"
Idk why but I just find that line really funny.
I am so happy I stumbled across your channel. Also you using the Don't Starve clip made me realize you sound exactly how I thought Wilson (the man with the hair shaped like a "W") would sound!
Chickens did well when they were introduced to Hawaii. Although that is a tropical island with very few predators, no winter and plenty of food.
Welcome back!
I hope things are going well.
I love your work.
Mrs. Tweedy did know the chickens are sentient, at least at the climax of the movie. She sees the evidence of it and still tries to kill them, and even before then, she clearly takes enjoyment in killing the chickens that don’t lay eggs.
Honestly I think the resentment for the chickens, it’s probably the frustration of being trapped in a failing business.
The idea of the egg theory works really well especially in the case that the sequel has Mrs. Tweedy marries another person that similarly resembles Mr. Tweedy...
They aren't a great match still but it either shows she has a type or she just is gravitated into a relationship mindset and can't get her mind off of her past
Man just wanted to say I really enjoy yer content. Like not just the commentary but the little back ground story. Just Looking forward to more.
I'm so glad that you're back too I like your videos you're very interesting and it's nice to hear a point of view of a side of a character that I didn't really think of when watching the film you know there's a sequel coming out wonder if they'll explore any of this?
My personal theory is that the chickens will be forced to look for a new home or that someone is gonna get kidnapped and the coop will have to go and rescue him/her, besides from that I got nothing.
@@BuriedEntertainment apparently it's gonna be about the main couple's kid and some new villain and the Tweedys won't even be in it. It sounds like their going for more of a heist movie, break IN instead of OUT thing. With a young character to appeal to the youth market.
@@BuriedEntertainment I hope your theory is right and also thanks for replying man you're like talking to a celebrity
I like the ending theme song is that the short version or is there a longer version?
@@DoctorObscure the trailer revealed that mrs tweedy is in it. I wonder how she will interact with the new villains
Oh my god-
Thank you. I love this channel so much
The third implication should definitely be expanded upon in the sequel
Almost, if not all of, their chickens wear scarves and/or hats
How is Mr Tweedy the only one that suspects they might be smarter than the average bird
Mrs. Tweedy's farm seems more like a heavenly paradise compared to the modern day factory farms.
11:47 - I just assumed for awhile the crate was disassembled back into the three henhouses that comprised it
I love your insight, this was a delightful watch as always! I am very much looking to the titular chicken video up next
literally a few days ago i realized i hadn't heard from this channel in a while. pleasantly surprised to see a notification from here not too long after!
lol same
I love this man's voice so much
I feel like this film has some horrific implications. So all animals are sapient, but humans don't know it (a deliberate choice by the animals). So why are these creatures keeping this secret to their own detriment? All feed lots are prison camps, all farms become places where atrocities are committed every day.
A late reply. But I would assume real life reactions to a talking animal- especially in that era. A talking animal wouldn’t fall under a “wow! Another sapient being!” But a “DEMON!!!”
Look at the history of things like black cats and other perceived “devil animals”. All of them are killed. You could potentially headcanon that animals DID speak to humans at one point… and that may have been the trigger to the dark ages in this universe. To which they would have desperately kept this secret since.
Even at that point in time, anyone that wasn’t a child would see such a thing as an abomination or something ill meaning. And for a woman like Tweedy, she would likely see this as a further threat… or potentially put the chickens into an even worse scenario than prior. The imprisonment ideal would become less an implication than it would a very literal thing.
In short, it would be a domino of chaos with potential disastrous consequences.
@@RogueT-Rex8468 I dunno, the husband didn't seem too surprised and Mrs. Tweedy wasn't all that surprised either, lead angry. Plus, building a giant flying machine is a pretty significant announcement to the world that you are sapient.
I still would argue that the chickens are themselves responsible for their predicament, as they have made the choice to hide their intelligence from humans.
@@WobblesandBean I was speaking generally about the reaction. I honestly am not surprised that the tweedys reacted so subdued as Mrs. Tweedy is just a unit of a woman, and her husband seems to be a conspiracy guy (those have suspicions but not everyone reacts large even when proven correct).
This in mind, again as I said in my previous comment, this wouldn’t phase their motives but likely make things morally screwed up with the knowledge they are sapient.
As for the construct, they were the only ones (if I recall) that even saw that contraption. And even if they weren’t, no one would believe anyone saying “the chickens did it”.
But you are correct in the chickens putting themselves into this predicament- but when it comes down to it, their actions revealing it could potentially cause worse issues for other chickens down the line. The ripple effect of chaos could be catastrophic.
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Me and the fellas in the reddit missed ya pal. Glad to see you're back.
BE: Ms. Tweedy is actually heroic
Chicken Run Dawn of the Nugget: Nuh uh
Sequel? I know this was made 2 years ago but it changes a bit about it
While as kids we rooted for the chickens.
As adults, we understood where Mr & Mrs. Tweedy are coming from.
If your source of income , livelihood & on the brink of bankruptcy.
You would be desperate too.
I wonder movies like this would go if the animals would show humans their conciousness.
Would they really continue to murder chickens if it turned out they were capable of reasonable thought?
A lot of more money could be made with chickens of human intellect than with pies after all.
Man I love your videos and that voice is just icing on the cake
Glad to have you back.
I hope all's well :)
Good to see you back
It's always a treat to see any of your videos :o
Always a good day to see another video from this charming channel.
A great video as always, I’m so happy to see you upload!
i had a theory once that melisha tweedy was born to a low income family and thus was ridiculed for it. thus her focus on profits over much else
"melisha tweedy will be poor no longer" sounds like it comes from a deep place if ya ask me
A new video! Hazzah, my weekend is now 10 times better!
I love your style of videos. And how you kind of have another story going on in the video. I might try something like that as well.
I shouldn't be surprised that there's artwork of her like that, but here we are.
Chickens are usually separated into two categories. Meat birds and layers. The reason layers aren’t really eaten is because the meat isn’t that great.
They should do an episode of Kipo and The Age of The Wonderbeasts, I feel like it would be the perfect thing for them to talk about
Hey dude, you're linked into the Chicken Run Tv Tropes pages.
And whoever did that for me will forever have my undying appreciation
Just to be clear THERE IS abuse, is just that we dont care about the suffering of animald
Haven't seen the movie, but I am glad that you upload again :)
Yay, welcome back
Never stop making these videos❤
Hi! Wow I really find your videos quite clever and I'm glad your back cool dude missed the shitposts and reviews.
Happy to have you back.
So how this work with the sequel now
Good to see you again
OMG HE RETURNS
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who thought of him and came back, after the sequel teaser came out.
Might want to throw in that before birth control was a thing, women were constantly getting pregnant so women probably came across as stupid to men because of what's known as "pregnancy brain." Mrs. Tweedy since her husband is infertile but she is ambitious actually helps her in the sense that she can be seen as a threat to anyone else who owns a business within the same field as her. No pregnancies, means perhaps not among the rest or stupid.
Interesting. I may need to watch this movie again. Love the content btw 👍
I'm having to binge watch these in sequence for the buried entertainment lore.
The King Returns
2:55 10:50 what film are these scenes from?
Leafie a hen into the wild
Well she is physically abusing her husband, she isn’t a protagonist. We shouldn’t stand or abuse in the name of “a woman in a man’s world” as a woman, I don’t want abusive people to be the ones that people think of when they think of women business owners
One can't help but wonder, are all chickens sapient in this universe? Ms. Tweedy's reactions would suggest no. But then how did she end up with an entire batch of them? Then again, Rocky was sapient, as were the rats. Which would suggest sapience in non-humans in maybe even semi-common. Either way, it would raise a lot of questions that I imagine a funny little family flick wouldn't feel the need to go into.
I just found out there's a sequel in the making.
How common are the ‘Mrs x’ brands of pies? Australia has Mrs Macs, but I’ve never heard of any others
Is the chicken movie you were referring to Leafie: A Hen in the wild?
I loved this movie as a kid so this is very interesting
He's out of line, but he's right
This is gonna be great
5:33
It seems this issue solved itself and I may resume my shopping in sweatpants
Oh my god, they're back! Praise every deity there is, cuz my prayers have been answered!
Don't forget the potential Nuclear Chicken wars once they run out of food
The chickens managed to create a muscle powered airplane, I think they will manage to survive the winter lol
Assuming they discover agriculture of course
Also, can't the people from Wall-e just eat the food from the ship until they manage to get agriculture going?
He's back !!!!!!!!!!!
Yo I just remembered this movie perfect timing dude
I love this guy, and the whole channels aesthetic reminds me of Civvie 11
I'm guessing the "Chicken" video is Chicken Little.
will you be making an update with the new movie?
Common case of "they are just doing their job"
Makes sense