Arcueid manifesting in the fight cuz she used Ciel as a catalyst is very funny but it is even funnier how you only know this if you select her cuz she ain't in any cutscenes
Of course it wouldn’t just stay down, we’re literally fighting both the concept of ‘humanity will to be at the top’ and the pruning phenomenon given physical form.
It's just the collective unconscious, but even that alone is definitely a massive threat. Especially cuz Ritsuka still needed one push to not be consumed by it
The new biggest boss in terms of scale even though its very much a conceptual boss. I honestly loved part 3 of OC3 despite part 1 and 2 being a bit slow
Taking what Daybit's said to us about Chaldeas and Marisbury plan as a whole; being an absolute menace to the universe other than earth... I would like to think other outwordly beings will come for our behind to fight chaldeas as well
Man... so Nasu WAS the Evangelion fan all along. I always thought it was Takeuchi due to Remake Ciel's design but I should've known since Remake Arcueid. Going through an "End of Evangelion" fight was so awesome, though
they are heavily implying on it and I can't wait, maybe we could see Seresh and Sishtar having some fun together lmao maybe we can even get Space Gil as his prototype version who knows
That, plus the special Saber Wars background for My Room there was, all the Servantverse stuff there was here, Ishtarin Lily scene about getting a swimsuit (plus her being there) on the Mahoyo collab, makes me think that yes we will get it, althouth I hope it isn't bait like Lip's swimsuit... Please, I want Summer Space Ishtar, at least a CE where Space Ishtar appears, she only has appeared on her Valentine CE and her Anniversary tour CE. (The 5th Anniversary CE for NA that was given a year ago isn't counted because she is cutted from the picture, so one wouldn't know she is there.)
Except for Chaldea and Ciel, all of them are fate extra cast one way or another. (Sakura face, rin face, hakuno, arc) Would be funny if Shiki and Rani were also here. But both of them already cameo in the event before this one. Fate Extra is definitely Nasu's favorite child.
@@m.h-ar124la7and so is Tsukihime. Let's not diminish Nasu's first Visual Novel as well. Sure, this chapter was Extra packed but the references to Tsukihime were also enjoyable. This really felt like a love letter to old school Type Moon fans.
@@aokyoutsuki7744Ciel, that's the second Mash, one could see it more on her third Ascension, Star Idol Ciel. (Althouth one would say Mash is a second Ciel at the same time.)
The wait's been worth it. The cinema of fighting collective unconsciousness is made so much better with Neo's edits. can't wait to fight the giant stickman in 2 years!
if just arcueid had more screentime and a proper entrance againts the mooncancer this would had become my second favorite history chapter (LB6 it's just so peak and i'm a morgan simp)
So ? Golden Moon ? City of Silver Moon ? Moon Dubai ? Immortality ? Let's face it Lasengle took too much inspiration of Sailor Moon for OC3. Edit: not to mention when fujimaru could have chose the dialogue about why always a bunny ? Usagi Tsukino means rabbit of the moon. Could BB be a Sailor Guardian ?
Still a bit confused over Space Eresh though, our Eresh says they weren't fused physically but they clearly were no? Anki was a beast and was using the body, they were just not fused mentally so they couldn't reach their full potential or maybe I'm missing something.
I heard a spoiler that Archetype: Earth would appear here and was wondering how, so she uses Ciel to summon herself😅. I was hoping it would be related to Archetype:AI, a kind of support of is part for the final fight but i guess it was still dormant at this point. I still hope we get a chance to interact with the AI, or at least see it awake and begin is journey to the stars🤔
There are two. The Moon Cancer (two words): A phenomena that acts as a manifestation of humanity's stagnation as they refuse to relinquish their spot as the Prime Species despite having reached a Dead End in terms of progression. It reduces all 'humans' cognitive functions, making them essentially lazy idiots. Because it's just a phenomena brought about by humanity's collective subconscious, it can't normally be fought directly. Mooncancers (the Class; one compound word): Originally a cheat Class created by the BB of CCC. This OC chapter redefined the reason for their existence as being to help shepard humanity towards their final steps before passing the metaphorical torch to whatever Prime Species comes after them or whatever next major evolutionary jump they have to make.
@@OmniGman Oh I see. That's makes things more clear. But how is this an "Archetype"? Or is it not? Is the Moon Cancer considered a planatary entity like Earth or the Moon?
@@Zenzuuuu The Archetype is the first of the new Prime Species that will replace the AI humanity of Moon Dubai's timeline. Not to be confused with Archetype Earth or the Types of other planets (despite confusingly similar sounding names/titles). It's some sort of sapient crystal/super computer that currently sleeps within the Burj Khalifa of Moon Dubai (which itself is secretly a rocket designed to help it escape our solar system). The AI humanity (influenced by the collective subconcious of pre-AI humanity) sealed it away rather than relessing it into space when they subconsciously rejected the idea that they had become obsolete and were being replaced by something so far beyond them that it might as well be a different species entirely. This willful hindering of progress became manifested as the Moon Cancer phenomena (no matter what they did they could not develop technology that would let them leave Earth/the solar system), which led to their timeline being slated for pruning.
ORT maybe higher, this is a concept that wouldnt really have a business to tussle with ORT, but in terms of a challenge for chaldea to best, its hard as both needed a different type of miracle
This "thing" s really really strong and we cant fight it in first place, we can defeat this thing bcs of how op golden bb and beast eresh are in the lore, if golden bb and eresh arnt there to help us, we are doomd in first place we cant do anything to this "thing" it will be like ort fight but much worse
@@aokyoutsuki7744 To be fair ORT was soloed by Camazotz. Moon Cancer lost against a lot of heavy hitters including Archetype Earth, Golden BB and a Beast, so they might well be on the same tier for all we know. Not that it can be confirmed.
@@theleechqueen thats what i mean by seperate miracles, ORT took camazots and the by-then human population, the LB7 servants n deities, all our spot summon reservoir, and by the end, the only way to end ORT for good was another ORT Untangible force VS immovable object type beat yknow
We are too quick criticizing lasagna that we forgot that conceptualizing and actualizing something like this takes time. Most gacha games have too many events but most if not all are just awful fan service with no actual direction.
@@vylon1075 maybe if you thought about it in a different way, you may understand the general dislike sometimes? Picture yourself hungy... so you go to a restaurant and ask for a nice plate of food. You're told it takes time so you wait... but the wait becomes longer. Not because the relativity of time makes it so you feel like an eternity is passing but because it really is taking time for your dish to be made. Between having nothing and appetizers, none are good enough for you since you're specifically looking forward to your dish... then you get said dish. And while the wait and money were worth it... you had to wait a long time and the appetizers didn't cut it for you to be patient while your dish was getting prepared. Point is: story in FGO for the most part is great and awesome. I loved OC3 for the concepts it had since they were interesting. Plus, the Tsukihime and Extra refrences (since they felt like a love letter to the old school Type Moon fans)... and even this little "End of Evangelion" vibe... but the management for the game feels like going to that one funny restaurant where even if the food is good, the general service and experience is questionable.
@@onlybb3286 not to mention the 9th anniversary fiasco, summer 9 being an OC3 prologue that lasted 2 months and the 30m downloads that were not as hype as everyone made it out to be (and by everyone, I also mean Lasangle). OC3 was peak, but it was accompanied by lame to bad stuff in between as well.
This is great stuff but there really is no excuse for taking this long. Tech-wise, this isn't anything difficult or overly time-consuming. If Nasu needed time to write the story then fair enough. But if it's only from the dev side there is no excuse.
Arcueid manifesting in the fight cuz she used Ciel as a catalyst is very funny but it is even funnier how you only know this if you select her cuz she ain't in any cutscenes
Girl couldn’t make it out the fight
@@corgilover3187 More like she just peaced out after the fight was over.
Wait did arc really do that? Lmfao
moon cancer's np is so fucking cool
i love that it has multiple variations for how zoomed out it is
Ah yes, the ultimate enemy of Ordeal Call thus far: A MEN'S BATHROOM SIGN
Truly, men are humanity's biggest enemy... specially in bathrooms, they're unstoppable there when they let 'em rip.
Bro im dead 😂LMAO
Of course it’s men
This is taking obsession to another level
Edit: IT RESPAWNS, HACKS, I CALL HACKS
Well it is humanity obssesion on being the special Prime Species of the planet
It’s worth mentioning that the secret support servant of this battle was Arcueid and I was like “Heck yeah!!”
Of course it wouldn’t just stay down, we’re literally fighting both the concept of ‘humanity will to be at the top’ and the pruning phenomenon given physical form.
It's just the collective unconscious, but even that alone is definitely a massive threat. Especially cuz Ritsuka still needed one push to not be consumed by it
Basically we are fighting Alaya.
The new biggest boss in terms of scale even though its very much a conceptual boss. I honestly loved part 3 of OC3 despite part 1 and 2 being a bit slow
This kind of boss making me convinced they are preparing for the Chaldea vs Chaos rematch.
@@m.h-ar124la7either that or another omnipotent giant like enemy even bigger for the end of Part 2
i really wonder if nasu will just give the ok for us to fight the-age-of-gods-ending velber at this point
Taking what Daybit's said to us about Chaldeas and Marisbury plan as a whole; being an absolute menace to the universe other than earth... I would like to think other outwordly beings will come for our behind to fight chaldeas as well
Man... so Nasu WAS the Evangelion fan all along. I always thought it was Takeuchi due to Remake Ciel's design but I should've known since Remake Arcueid.
Going through an "End of Evangelion" fight was so awesome, though
What a sweet time space ereshkigal. Can't wait to see you soon in saber wars 3
they are heavily implying on it and I can't wait, maybe we could see Seresh and Sishtar having some fun together lmao maybe we can even get Space Gil as his prototype version who knows
@@yaliyumegami2033 Love the lines SSB Eresh has for both Space Ishtar(as a whole) and Ishtar Ashtarte(Ashtart)/Space Ishtar at 3rd Ascension.
That, plus the special Saber Wars background for My Room there was, all the Servantverse stuff there was here, Ishtarin Lily scene about getting a swimsuit (plus her being there) on the Mahoyo collab, makes me think that yes we will get it, althouth I hope it isn't bait like Lip's swimsuit... Please, I want Summer Space Ishtar, at least a CE where Space Ishtar appears, she only has appeared on her Valentine CE and her Anniversary tour CE. (The 5th Anniversary CE for NA that was given a year ago isn't counted because she is cutted from the picture, so one wouldn't know she is there.)
So many twins here. Hakunos. The mashus. Ereshkigal and anki(or master if you are the guy). The bbs. Proteas. Ordeal call twin edition
Except for Chaldea and Ciel, all of them are fate extra cast one way or another.
(Sakura face, rin face, hakuno, arc)
Would be funny if Shiki and Rani were also here. But both of them already cameo in the event before this one.
Fate Extra is definitely Nasu's favorite child.
Theres 2 mash?
@@m.h-ar124la7and so is Tsukihime. Let's not diminish Nasu's first Visual Novel as well.
Sure, this chapter was Extra packed but the references to Tsukihime were also enjoyable.
This really felt like a love letter to old school Type Moon fans.
@@aokyoutsuki7744Ciel, that's the second Mash, one could see it more on her third Ascension, Star Idol Ciel. (Althouth one would say Mash is a second Ciel at the same time.)
The wait's been worth it. The cinema of fighting collective unconsciousness is made so much better with Neo's edits. can't wait to fight the giant stickman in 2 years!
3:05 i love this part so much lol
if just arcueid had more screentime and a proper entrance againts the mooncancer this would had become my second favorite history chapter (LB6 it's just so peak and i'm a morgan simp)
So basically space ereshkigal is sorta like arcuied and golden BB when it comes to multiple versions of her
And kinda Space Ishtar.
So ? Golden Moon ? City of Silver Moon ? Moon Dubai ? Immortality ? Let's face it Lasengle took too much inspiration of Sailor Moon for OC3.
Edit: not to mention when fujimaru could have chose the dialogue about why always a bunny ? Usagi Tsukino means rabbit of the moon. Could BB be a Sailor Guardian ?
0:00 Moon Rise Obsession ムーン・キャンサー
1:37 just-world hypothesis 公正世界仮説
3:22 just-world fallacy 公正世界誤謬
5:20 belief in a just world 公正世界信念
Lmaoo that auto skill name Ciel and Arctype Earth use 3:06 , she can summon herself like that??
Hakuno said that Moon Cancer can summon one servant that they are related to ,so Arc used it by force.
I love the music omg...
Still a bit confused over Space Eresh though, our Eresh says they weren't fused physically but they clearly were no? Anki was a beast and was using the body, they were just not fused mentally so they couldn't reach their full potential or maybe I'm missing something.
I heard a spoiler that Archetype: Earth would appear here and was wondering how, so she uses Ciel to summon herself😅. I was hoping it would be related to Archetype:AI, a kind of support of is part for the final fight but i guess it was still dormant at this point. I still hope we get a chance to interact with the AI, or at least see it awake and begin is journey to the stars🤔
What is it with Nasu and making final bosses End of Eva references? First Ciel's route in Tsukihime, then this!
I still have no clue what this "Moon Cancer" actually is 😂
There are two.
The Moon Cancer (two words): A phenomena that acts as a manifestation of humanity's stagnation as they refuse to relinquish their spot as the Prime Species despite having reached a Dead End in terms of progression.
It reduces all 'humans' cognitive functions, making them essentially lazy idiots. Because it's just a phenomena brought about by humanity's collective subconscious, it can't normally be fought directly.
Mooncancers (the Class; one compound word):
Originally a cheat Class created by the BB of CCC. This OC chapter redefined the reason for their existence as being to help shepard humanity towards their final steps before passing the metaphorical torch to whatever Prime Species comes after them or whatever next major evolutionary jump they have to make.
@@OmniGman Oh I see. That's makes things more clear. But how is this an "Archetype"? Or is it not?
Is the Moon Cancer considered a planatary entity like Earth or the Moon?
@@Zenzuuuu
The Archetype is the first of the new Prime Species that will replace the AI humanity of Moon Dubai's timeline. Not to be confused with Archetype Earth or the Types of other planets (despite confusingly similar sounding names/titles).
It's some sort of sapient crystal/super computer that currently sleeps within the Burj Khalifa of Moon Dubai (which itself is secretly a rocket designed to help it escape our solar system).
The AI humanity (influenced by the collective subconcious of pre-AI humanity) sealed it away rather than relessing it into space when they subconsciously rejected the idea that they had become obsolete and were being replaced by something so far beyond them that it might as well be a different species entirely.
This willful hindering of progress became manifested as the Moon Cancer phenomena (no matter what they did they could not develop technology that would let them leave Earth/the solar system), which led to their timeline being slated for pruning.
What ? To think that final boss has gut to come back again. Is this monster is same rank like ORT ?
ORT maybe higher, this is a concept that wouldnt really have a business to tussle with ORT, but in terms of a challenge for chaldea to best, its hard as both needed a different type of miracle
This "thing" s really really strong and we cant fight it in first place, we can defeat this thing bcs of how op golden bb and beast eresh are in the lore, if golden bb and eresh arnt there to help us, we are doomd in first place we cant do anything to this "thing" it will be like ort fight but much worse
@@aokyoutsuki7744 To be fair ORT was soloed by Camazotz. Moon Cancer lost against a lot of heavy hitters including Archetype Earth, Golden BB and a Beast, so they might well be on the same tier for all we know. Not that it can be confirmed.
@@theleechqueen thats what i mean by seperate miracles, ORT took camazots and the by-then human population, the LB7 servants n deities, all our spot summon reservoir, and by the end, the only way to end ORT for good was another ORT
Untangible force VS immovable object type beat yknow
We are too quick criticizing lasagna that we forgot that conceptualizing and actualizing something like this takes time. Most gacha games have too many events but most if not all are just awful fan service with no actual direction.
Thing is, we didn't know they were doing something so good, even if this is part of the main story.
@@vylon1075 maybe if you thought about it in a different way, you may understand the general dislike sometimes?
Picture yourself hungy... so you go to a restaurant and ask for a nice plate of food. You're told it takes time so you wait... but the wait becomes longer. Not because the relativity of time makes it so you feel like an eternity is passing but because it really is taking time for your dish to be made. Between having nothing and appetizers, none are good enough for you since you're specifically looking forward to your dish... then you get said dish. And while the wait and money were worth it... you had to wait a long time and the appetizers didn't cut it for you to be patient while your dish was getting prepared.
Point is: story in FGO for the most part is great and awesome. I loved OC3 for the concepts it had since they were interesting. Plus, the Tsukihime and Extra refrences (since they felt like a love letter to the old school Type Moon fans)... and even this little "End of Evangelion" vibe... but the management for the game feels like going to that one funny restaurant where even if the food is good, the general service and experience is questionable.
The repeated timegates ruined the event in a way
@@onlybb3286 not to mention the 9th anniversary fiasco, summer 9 being an OC3 prologue that lasted 2 months and the 30m downloads that were not as hype as everyone made it out to be (and by everyone, I also mean Lasangle).
OC3 was peak, but it was accompanied by lame to bad stuff in between as well.
This is great stuff but there really is no excuse for taking this long. Tech-wise, this isn't anything difficult or overly time-consuming. If Nasu needed time to write the story then fair enough. But if it's only from the dev side there is no excuse.
This has to be the most boring fight and boss ever in fgo.