Not a single shot fired. Not a single punch thrown. In short very little action or violence but I still binged watched both seasons in two days. That’s how good the show is.
man all the actors who played the serial killers in the show have done an unbelievable job, all spot on, the people on the show they know what are u doing, for me I will give an Emmy to each single one of them
i dont fully agree with that, the actor who play Pierce didnt got to me as much as the others. the Williams one. now that was surprising. obviously Charles and Kemper are just the best.
If you’re like me and watched the serial killer interviews before Mind Hunter came out, you’d be mind blown by the actors. In my criminology class Mind Hunter is all we talk about.
Damon Herriman's Manson was an Emmy-baiting performance alone. He was just unrecognisable. I'm curious to see how he fares in the same role in Tarantino's new film. I've been rooting for his big breakthrough U.S. role for years.
@smith lovy I don't much care to watch his actual interviews but there is anothwr great video that shows the real Kemper side by side with the actor. It's very cool
@smith lovy I did, the show Kemper is alot more scary. But I think that's whats scary about real life Kemper aswell, he's not typically scary so you easily forget what he did and could do if he was out of prison. Like the fact that he'd probably still be out there if he hadnt turned himself in. Creepy.
True I love how that try to explain there job with out actually saying what there job is but no one understands so thay just have to say lol I love it smart very fukin Smart
The hospital scene when you could see Ed Kempner's shackles loosen and his menacing voice and idle threats. That was scarier than any blood and guts horror movie. No wonder Holden near panicked to death.
Man I love this show. It's amazing how creepy and unsettling it is with almost no blood or violence. It's definitely a testament to the amazing writing and acting
Lol that's true. But that's why I said "almost no blood or violence". I guess I just meant that it's not saturated with violence like a lot of shows are. Aside from that one scene and some crime photos, you don't encounter too much grisly violence
Joshua Meadus The biggest monsters are the writers who keep dragging down the series with unnecessary romances (Holden season 1, Wendy season 2) and the heavy handed comparison between Bill’s son and the childhoods of the killers they’re interviewing. Without those dull subplots that went nowhere, the series would have been a lean, intense perfect 10.
Doffy donquixote Yeah kremper was big and strong too don’t make him mad or he can crush you or break you neck he is still alive But life in prison like most serial killers it was his Childhood
@Jeremy Backman unfortunately we can only wonder especially the fact that most CEO's have psychopathy traits, maybe if he didn't have such dysfunctional relationship with his mother he could turned out to be a great guy
@@luvgzus4ever they should cancel some shit like 13 reasons and bring in outside money. The real FBI agents who wrote the books never actually caught BTK. so maybe they will bring in new characters.
Agreed. And first time I have ever seen a tv series twice. Also, the "inspiration" it gave me to follow up on what feels like a million Documentaries, tv series and what not, about both the killers, the real life investigators and the victim's remaining families etc, that are portrayed in Mindhunter 😁
@@bekacynthia I mean it’s not 100 precent for sure . But even the director said it’s probably not gonna happen. Which I don’t know why like you said this show was damn good .
David Fincher said that for the amount of views it got, it was an expensive show. Meaning, it just wasn't viable for the show to continue without having a larger audience. So the only course we can take is to get our friends and family to watch the show too! That's the only way we can even get a shot of season 3 happening.
Some people like me know nothing about American history on serial killers so when you're watching the show it's nice to be surprised about what happens next
The Atlanta murders are so frustrating. Wayne obviously did some of the killings, but instead of trying to seek out other killers it was just closed with no justice for most of the mothers. Just sad
@@LSSYLondon one of the adults murdered (Porter iirc) was homeless because a child relative said he molested them. It could be a coincidence (that kind of thing is sadly not uncommon). It’s a case with a lot of red herrings (“Uncle Tom” Terrell, Wilcoxen, Jamie Brooks and Calvin Smith, etc.) but I think they got at least one of the killers. The people who think Wayne is innocent can’t agree on how long Nathaniel Cater was dead before his body was found; some of them say he‘d been dead for north of 2 weeks and some say he died after Wayne was stopped crossing the bridge. My belief: the splash they heard was Nate’s body, and Wayne Williams dropped it. Contrary to claims that he couldn’t have crossed the bridge without the task force hearing it before the splash, the DA bussed the jury to the scene and recreated it exactly as it was purported to have happened. Chet Dettlinger’s research doesn’t vindicate Wayne at all; if anything, it supports John Douglas’s theory was he was one of multiple child killers that possibly moved in the same circles.
@@quintonmoad4418 the water in jackson bridge is low. The flow is very slow and steady. The area nah have been VERY rural and low traffic then so it won't speak on it but damn it something ain't right. And why do people think be did some of the child murders when no evidence what so ever is present. The fibers is bulk shit ( c'mon a small fiber handing in the side of a chick taylor) that matched how his carpet looked under a microscope. I'm here to tell you all low income carpets in ATL public housing looked the same if you were lucky enough to even have it. The neck ties thingy and gloves never went into evidence it was hersay. I believe if it was real they would have collected it. Idk. And remember the bridge thing was a grown man. Much bigger than him. This man was 5'5 like a buck 50. And it was a some one with him when he was stopped a minor who they never mention or bring up who he was recording music with. Yea that's kinda weird but that guy is alive and says he never tried him in any way never have creepy vibes . Idk i just know something is not right. Also no one in the hood never mentioned seeing this man. Not saying he innocent but they damn sure did not prove it. They jus so happen to be on a bridge , SOUTH COBB PARKWAY at that time of morning. What kids are out that time of day. None!
@@Myuewtube but WW weighed more than Nathaniel Cater. It’s not that hard to take something that weighs 150 lbs and roll it off the side of a bridge, especially when you have more weight of your own to leverage against it. It’s also not hard to get an adult man into your car when he’s a) a sex worker; and b) a drunk. Nate (R.I.P.) was by his family’s admission, the neighborhood trick and the neighborhood lush. And there was more than one fiber; the fibers matched not only his carpet, but at least one bedsheet and other things in the Williams home. The dog hair is a little more suspect because they were originally looking for a Malamute or a Siberian Husky and Homer’s dog was a German Shepherd; so I can understand why somebody isn’t totally satisfied with that. People at Techwood Homes and other neighborhoods the children disappeared from did, in fact, remember Wayne. They remembered him as being bright and ambitious but he did have connections with those places. And a lot of the documentaries almost sympathetic to Wayne and emphasizing that Yusuf and Patrick Baltazar’s family think he’s innocent omit that the families of Patrick Rogers and Nathaniel Cater remain convinced of his guilt 40 years later. Patrick Rogers’ mother said Patrick was meeting a talent agent at Cap’n Peg’s the day he disappeared; Cap’n Peg’s street address was conspicuously given as the business address on the flyers Wayne kept and handed out. I agree with you insofar that there’s a lot not right with the case; but going from “WW didn’t kill all of them” to “WW didn’t kill any of them” is hard for me to do. I think, all told, he murdered 11 boys and young men to include Jimmy Ray Payne and Nathaniel Cater. I think more than one person got away with murder and there are some scary loose ends (Jamie Brooks being the most unpleasant one, although polygraphs are complete garbage and I’d never use his or Wayne’s against either one because they’re notoriously misleading).
2023 and it is officially off the table. Just came here to show support for Season 3. I enjoyed it so much, I'm just HOPING they change their mind and make Season 3. 🤞🏻
It was big news when the Atlanta child murders happened. It was all over the news. Maybe some didn't care but most did. I was a white kid in Oklahoma City and I was terrified. It was like a nightmare.
@@ashmegspence2597 gotta think this was not to long after the civil rights act so the Atlanta police didnt want to speculate that it was in fear that it would spark a race riot
Damon Herriman. Was an annoying kid actor down here in Oz back in the Eighties. Glad to see he's graduated to some really hardcore roles nowadays. Quite impressed. And Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is great.
Easily one of the best damn shows ever made. But one thing no other show will be able to compete with Mindhunter on....the casting choices. They just dont mess around in that department.
The interview with Manson in season #2 was just amazing. That actor deserves an award. Watched it several times. Although Batshit crazy. It was pretty powerful.
Looks incredibly like the real Manson as well. Anyone interested in Manson should read Helter Skelter. That is the best true crime book I've read and I've read many.
He's an Australian actor called Damon Herriman, and he also plays Manson in Tarantino's new film. I agree he deserves an award for this, he was mesmerising.
@@sayrishkhan3726 yes, because the producer has no time at the moment since he is taking care of other movies. However, the show will return when he has time again - it hasn't been cancelled
Alice Doe I felt the same as you about autism. Then he started wetting the bed and regressing it seemed in age as in playing with old toys, sucking his thumb, his mom bathing him, etc. glad I’m not the only one.
It is apparently inspired by real life events. Two boys beat one toddler with a brick and later crucified him, hoping he will be resurectted. We see in the begining that he started to finally act like a normal child, he even spoke to Bill(in season1 he didn't) and said he played with some kids and seemed happy. They are a church going ppl so his idea was to crucify him and no normal child would come to such idea. Also, what do you guys think; why didn't Nancy let the mother of murdered toddler speak with Brian?(Sorry for my bad English)
Season 2 began and ended strongly but Season 1 was definitely superior. In 2 Carr's storyline was weak, Ford was minimized and only Tench matched his interest level from season 1. Greg was also suspiciously absent in the last few episodes. The team apparently have greater funding now but progressed little as far as the study. More happened in season 1 and what happened felt more impactful, the interviews especially.
I agree. The interviews felt a bit routine while in season 1 they were actively driving the plot forward. And I was so much looking forward to the big climactic questioning of Williams in court when the prosecution together with the BSU was struggling to make Williams stop acting like an indignant innocent lamb suffering from outrageous and false accusations. They were exhausting him with questions about all kinds of minutest details for hours, and then all of a sudden slapped him with a question out of nowhere about how he felt murdering the kids. And then he showed his real face. In the book it's quite an intense moment: «I said to Mallard, "Remember the old TV show» «This Is Your Life?" You’ve got to do that with him. You’ve got to keep him on the stand as long as you can, you’ve got to break him down. Because he’s an overcontrolled, rigid personality, he’s an obsessive-compulsive. And to get to that rigidity, you have to keep the pressure on him, sustain the tension by going through every aspect of his life, even stuff that doesn’t seem to mean anything, like where he went to school. Just keep it up. Then, when you’ve worn him down, you have to physically touch him, just like Al Binder did. What’s good for the defense is good for the prosecution. Move in close, violate his space, and catch him off guard. Before the defense has the opportunity to object, ask him in a low voice, "Did you panic, Wayne, when you killed these kids?" And when the time comes, that’s just what Mallard does. For the first several hours of cross-examination, he can’t rattle Williams. He catches him up in a number of glaring inconsistencies, but it’s the same calm, "How could it possibly be me?" Williams. The gray-haired, gray-suited Mallard methodically goes through his whole life, then at the right time, he goes in close, puts his hand on Williams’s arm, and in a low, methodical south-Georgia drawl says, "What was it like, Wayne? What was it like when you wrapped your fingers around the victim’s throat? Did you panic? Did you panic?" And in a weak voice of his own, Williams says, "No." Then he catches himself. He flies into a rage. He points his finger at me and screams, "You’re trying your best to make me fit that FBI profile, and I’m not going to help you do it!» John Douglas, Mark Olshaker. «Mindhunter»
Carr's storyline was so weak it almost ruined S2 for me. Why have a character there if little of what they do will have any repercussions on the story?
Favourite scene that I watch over again is when Ford gets the son of Sam to admit that his story was fake. That smirk. “Especially the shrinks” Goosebumps yo
Yuv Ramdharrysing not true. True Detective is a great show, but Mindhunter is more of a continuation of Fincher`s previous serial killer movie based on real life, the Zodiac.
Ceren D. it’s probably because they mostly focus on killers with sexual reasons to kill. most female killers don’t have sexual reasons to kill. sorry for my english, not a native speaker lol
This is one the best edited shows i’ve ever seen. The interrogation screen transition is absolutely captivating. The viewer gets so into the scene that we feel we are in the same room as they are.
Man how do they find these actors? They are not just an amazing actors, also they look exactly same like the real killers. Hats off to creators of this series.
This show is amazing! Tv shows and movies that use gore and violence to creep the viewers out need to take notes from Mindhunter. I think Jason Hill (the composer) deserves tons of awards for what he’s created for the show. And so does every single actor/actress.
The sound design in season 2 was sooooo good! When they interviewed Mansons puppet, you could softly hear screaming when he talked about killing people.
I love how they made Ed Kemper so huge, not only physically but just in general. They they shoot scenes with him in, its so tense, especially in the hospital scene
I hope they'd do Bundy, Ramirez and Gacy for season 3, Dahmer and Ridgway for season 4 and finally BTK for season 5 😃 If only they'd give us more seasons ever... 😭
This show is still one of the favorites in Netflix ever and it is fascinating about the criminal profiler techniques from FBI and all actors who are played serial killers looks very identical to real life. I am so excited for season 3. I am thinking about what's next investigation for next season.
Ed was a very reflective man, about himself and his living standards. It was very interesting to see that a serial killer analyzed himself so much and had the ability to discern his weaknesses.
Pretty much every True Crime buff knows all of these things, if you have read Mindhunter and Whoever Fights Monsters: the first book by John Douglas, the second by Robert K. Ressler. And there are some incredibly choice podcasts you can listen to that have really well told and researched crimes. For the Atkid story I recommend Atlanta Monster. And Wayne Williams really did hand out his resume...
I am completely hooked on this series--can't stop watching it. I'm kind of a behavioral science nerd so listening to these serial killers is fascinating. As the team looks for commonality among serial killers and find common threads like overbearing mothers, absentee fathers and the emotional, mental and physical abuse these people suffer as they are asked a series of questions that is supposed to shine a spotlight on WHY these people grew up to do the things they do, the scientific nerd inside me is also wondering why children who grow up in the exact same kinds of environments suffering the same kinds of abuse DON'T focus that rage at other people and go about living very average, normal lives never hurting a flea. Now that would be a show I'd watch as well. What is that thing that keeps an abused child from growing up to be a monster?
This TV Series is a complete Masterpiece. Encyclopedia for Serial Killers. Richest Themes, Deeper from Facts to Fiction. The Serie of the 2010's Decades.
Just finished rewatching Mindhunter. Simply brilliant television. The actors they cast to play Kemper, Berkowitz, Wayne Williams at the other serial killers was so spot on in appearance I had to keep reminding myself they were actors...outstanding work. Such a shame there's not going to be another season anytime soon...
So disappointed that it got canceled This is one of the Netflix gems that's hidden. I only found it because I feel in love with Jonathan after watching him as King George in Hamilton and as Patrick in looking. And I looked up what else he's been in and FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS SERIES I binge the series twice every month Just love it and I am not giving up on my hope for it continuing 🥺🙏
Really well done series. They made Ed Kemper a little more overweight than the real thing, but you could tell the actor had studied Kemper's speaking patterns. Wayne Williams was spot on. The actor playing Berkowitz looked like he had appliances, but was convincing.
Can’t wait to see if Tench and Ford have some involvement in the capture of Dahmer. They showed Gacy on the board in their offices and I’m hoping Bundy is an interviewee as well.
maggiethemonkey Dahmer was caught in 91. Season 2 ended in 81. I could see it happening if the show runs for a while. Ford is pretty young to retire in his 30s
Not a single shot fired. Not a single punch thrown. In short very little action or violence but I still binged watched both seasons in two days. That’s how good the show is.
Literally in the first 5 mins of the first episode that guy blows his head off hahah but I get what your saying It’s an amazing series
IKR, I didn’t even realize any of that until you pointed it out. There’s a great tension without a shot fired.
Me toooo
jordan king ok, only one shot fired...😁. But thanks for pointing that out because I completely forgot about it.
You can hear shots fired at quantico every time they arrive. Probably training, but still
Cancelling Mindhunter after two seasons was a crime!
If you love the show, read the book!!! The book has so much more detail and covers a ton more stories. It also comes from the detective himself!
This show was the saddest casualty of COVID 😢
I loved this show. Can't believe they put hold on season 3
What about the Manson interview
Damon Herriman was fucking spot on in that scene.
i stayed up until 6am watching season 2
I can't believe I waited 2 years for season two and devoured it in less than 2 days.
U are lucky I finish it in one day couldn't resist
2 days??!?! Took me 1 afternoon;)
Any season 3 theories ?
Love Muffin probably btk
@@MelaniaRose Bundy
man all the actors who played the serial killers in the show have done an unbelievable job, all spot on, the people on the show they know what are u doing, for me I will give an Emmy to each single one of them
i dont fully agree with that, the actor who play Pierce didnt got to me as much as the others. the Williams one. now that was surprising. obviously Charles and Kemper are just the best.
If you’re like me and watched the serial killer interviews before Mind Hunter came out, you’d be mind blown by the actors. In my criminology class Mind Hunter is all we talk about.
The actors are incredible. So is the make up and wardrobe department!
Actors looks good when director work for making them good. A single Emmy for Fincher would be enough.
Damon Herriman's Manson was an Emmy-baiting performance alone. He was just unrecognisable. I'm curious to see how he fares in the same role in Tarantino's new film. I've been rooting for his big breakthrough U.S. role for years.
I find Kemper the best character. Menacing but calm, so unsettling. And the actor look just like him.
Pitaya Villasana when he grabbed his throat I was like oh my this is good
@smith lovy I don't much care to watch his actual interviews but there is anothwr great video that shows the real Kemper side by side with the actor. It's very cool
DID YOU KNOW HE PLAYED OPIE IN SONS IF ANARCHY AND THE TALK WEIRD GUY IN BATES MOTEL ???
@@Notinuse6685 Actually Opie was played by Ryan Hurst!
@smith lovy I did, the show Kemper is alot more scary. But I think that's whats scary about real life Kemper aswell, he's not typically scary so you easily forget what he did and could do if he was out of prison. Like the fact that he'd probably still be out there if he hadnt turned himself in. Creepy.
They made a show about violence without being violent..
Genius.
True I love how that try to explain there job with out actually saying what there job is but no one understands so thay just have to say lol I love it smart very fukin Smart
Beacause it is about criminal profiling.
its not about violence. its about psychology.
Violent only by words
imagine the same show without the fillers like "random family relations"... they were totally out of place
The hospital scene when you could see Ed Kempner's shackles loosen and his menacing voice and idle threats. That was scarier than any blood and guts horror movie. No wonder Holden near panicked to death.
Legit I thought he would kill Holden when the people around stars running
Bruh ikr the scene was lit
Why he ended up hugging Holden instead of doing a suddenly direct violence
Hands down scariest scene in the show so far, even i had a panic attack
Legit i just finished szn 1 and looked for this comment. The ending was justtt...i got goosebumps all over and panickedddd more than a scary movie
So incredibly sad Netflix hasn't made a season 3, just left those who love this show hanging on the noose.
I don't get your 200 votes. Is it so easy?
@sarac.3568 you think thats a lot? Are you really jealous of something that means absolutely nothing?
@@damiencross7334 rule number 1 on this site, don't reply to trolls
Those are the sad people with no power in live. @@damiencross7334
Yeah they said its to expensive to produce and not enough people watching it. Its a tragedy
Man I love this show. It's amazing how creepy and unsettling it is with almost no blood or violence. It's definitely a testament to the amazing writing and acting
This is a very intellectual comment.
@@therosey144 why thank you Mr/Mrs the Fish. How kind of you
Well it opens with a guy blowing his head off tho
Lol that's true. But that's why I said "almost no blood or violence". I guess I just meant that it's not saturated with violence like a lot of shows are. Aside from that one scene and some crime photos, you don't encounter too much grisly violence
I’m praying for Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer next season.
The creepy music for this show is awesome.
@TheBluearmy33 Not just the individual songs chosen, but the soundtrack itself. A constant state of menace is sustained and unsettles beautifully.
Yes that one tune they used for a killer in season 1. They used it every time Ben Tench was at home
I agreed
In the light by Led Zeppelin was so creepy in the last episode of the first season
m i Bill* Tench
God I love mind hunter. The biggest monster is man himself.
Monsters are made, not born. I think that's what Mindhunter is getting at.
Joshua Meadus i have been into those things from a Young age But i haven’t seen mind hunter yet people say i should
@@jolinkarlsson8569 you should definantly watch it. It's very interesting and the acting is solid.
@@jolinkarlsson8569 ...it's a slow burn...but you won't forget the 70's makeover and the ending of season 1. Fascinating work by all involved.
Joshua Meadus The biggest monsters are the writers who keep dragging down the series with unnecessary romances (Holden season 1, Wendy season 2) and the heavy handed comparison between Bill’s son and the childhoods of the killers they’re interviewing. Without those dull subplots that went nowhere, the series would have been a lean, intense perfect 10.
The actor that played kemper was amazing and I was fascinated by his intelligence and mannerism just omg so amazing
Doffy donquixote Yeah kremper was big and strong too don’t make him mad or he can crush you or break you neck he is still alive But life in prison like most serial killers it was his Childhood
Storm Canuto i haven’t seen it But it looks pretty good
@@jolinkarlsson8569 kemper*
the actual ed kemper actually has genius iq, he was tested & scored 145, not only he was a giant he also a legit genius
@Jeremy Backman unfortunately we can only wonder especially the fact that most CEO's have psychopathy traits, maybe if he didn't have such dysfunctional relationship with his mother he could turned out to be a great guy
They did an excellent job in hiring actors that look pretty damned close to the original serial killers!
especially Manson!!
@@doomvillian7228 and son of sam
Make up artists are very good these days i here.
almost all of them
@@faresdj7146 even that Wayne dude
One of the best series streaming across any platform. Amazing.
This is my kind of channel; amazing facts about the Vatican. 🤔1st. video to watch.
Amazong
@@luvgzus4ever true. Atleast make it a even 50.😂
@@luvgzus4ever they should cancel some shit like 13 reasons and bring in outside money. The real FBI agents who wrote the books never actually caught BTK. so maybe they will bring in new characters.
Agreed. And first time I have ever seen a tv series twice. Also, the "inspiration" it gave me to follow up on what feels like a million Documentaries, tv series and what not, about both the killers, the real life investigators and the victim's remaining families etc, that are portrayed in Mindhunter 😁
It's a damn shame that the show is basically dead at this point. Greatest crime show on TV EVER. I really hope Fincher gets back to it.
Cmon, Netflix, stop the psychological torture and make the third season already!
Chances are there won’t be one .
Dexter Morgan isn’t it a waste? Such a good show!
@@bekacynthia I mean it’s not 100 precent for sure . But even the director said it’s probably not gonna happen. Which I don’t know why like you said this show was damn good .
@@Yes_king6973 it costs too much to make and the director wasn't interested in the idea anymore.
David Fincher said that for the amount of views it got, it was an expensive show. Meaning, it just wasn't viable for the show to continue without having a larger audience. So the only course we can take is to get our friends and family to watch the show too! That's the only way we can even get a shot of season 3 happening.
Funny how there are "SPOILER ALERTS" for things that actually happened over 30 years ago! 😂
Some people like me know nothing about American history on serial killers so when you're watching the show it's nice to be surprised about what happens next
@dustysnoop ????
@dustysnoop and something's wrong about that?
@dustysnoop why are you saying babe? having personality issues?
JO EL You don’t know that.
Can't believe how they left season 2. I pray the wait for season 3 is much shorter 😩
Castles I know, right? We waited almost 2 years for season 2! It was amazing though.
I hope we see john Wayne gacy in season 3
I've read its 2 years till season 3
Stephen Edmunds that’s scarier than the dang crimes! 😩
@Stephanie Logan Got my fingers crossed for Richard Ramirez
The Atlanta murders are so frustrating. Wayne obviously did some of the killings, but instead of trying to seek out other killers it was just closed with no justice for most of the mothers. Just sad
I think he must have had a partner. Someone younger.
@@LSSYLondon one of the adults murdered (Porter iirc) was homeless because a child relative said he molested them. It could be a coincidence (that kind of thing is sadly not uncommon). It’s a case with a lot of red herrings (“Uncle Tom” Terrell, Wilcoxen, Jamie Brooks and Calvin Smith, etc.) but I think they got at least one of the killers. The people who think Wayne is innocent can’t agree on how long Nathaniel Cater was dead before his body was found; some of them say he‘d been dead for north of 2 weeks and some say he died after Wayne was stopped crossing the bridge. My belief: the splash they heard was Nate’s body, and Wayne Williams dropped it. Contrary to claims that he couldn’t have crossed the bridge without the task force hearing it before the splash, the DA bussed the jury to the scene and recreated it exactly as it was purported to have happened.
Chet Dettlinger’s research doesn’t vindicate Wayne at all; if anything, it supports John Douglas’s theory was he was one of multiple child killers that possibly moved in the same circles.
@@quintonmoad4418 the water in jackson bridge is low. The flow is very slow and steady. The area nah have been VERY rural and low traffic then so it won't speak on it but damn it something ain't right. And why do people think be did some of the child murders when no evidence what so ever is present. The fibers is bulk shit ( c'mon a small fiber handing in the side of a chick taylor) that matched how his carpet looked under a microscope. I'm here to tell you all low income carpets in ATL public housing looked the same if you were lucky enough to even have it. The neck ties thingy and gloves never went into evidence it was hersay. I believe if it was real they would have collected it. Idk. And remember the bridge thing was a grown man. Much bigger than him. This man was 5'5 like a buck 50. And it was a some one with him when he was stopped a minor who they never mention or bring up who he was recording music with. Yea that's kinda weird but that guy is alive and says he never tried him in any way never have creepy vibes . Idk i just know something is not right. Also no one in the hood never mentioned seeing this man. Not saying he innocent but they damn sure did not prove it. They jus so happen to be on a bridge , SOUTH COBB PARKWAY at that time of morning. What kids are out that time of day. None!
@@Myuewtube but WW weighed more than Nathaniel Cater. It’s not that hard to take something that weighs 150 lbs and roll it off the side of a bridge, especially when you have more weight of your own to leverage against it. It’s also not hard to get an adult man into your car when he’s a) a sex worker; and b) a drunk. Nate (R.I.P.) was by his family’s admission, the neighborhood trick and the neighborhood lush. And there was more than one fiber; the fibers matched not only his carpet, but at least one bedsheet and other things in the Williams home. The dog hair is a little more suspect because they were originally looking for a Malamute or a Siberian Husky and Homer’s dog was a German Shepherd; so I can understand why somebody isn’t totally satisfied with that.
People at Techwood Homes and other neighborhoods the children disappeared from did, in fact, remember Wayne. They remembered him as being bright and ambitious but he did have connections with those places. And a lot of the documentaries almost sympathetic to Wayne and emphasizing that Yusuf and Patrick Baltazar’s family think he’s innocent omit that the families of Patrick Rogers and Nathaniel Cater remain convinced of his guilt 40 years later. Patrick Rogers’ mother said Patrick was meeting a talent agent at Cap’n Peg’s the day he disappeared; Cap’n Peg’s street address was conspicuously given as the business address on the flyers Wayne kept and handed out.
I agree with you insofar that there’s a lot not right with the case; but going from “WW didn’t kill all of them” to “WW didn’t kill any of them” is hard for me to do. I think, all told, he murdered 11 boys and young men to include Jimmy Ray Payne and Nathaniel Cater. I think more than one person got away with murder and there are some scary loose ends (Jamie Brooks being the most unpleasant one, although polygraphs are complete garbage and I’d never use his or Wayne’s against either one because they’re notoriously misleading).
That's right. But it's a fact that the killings stopped after he was arrested.
Please, please, please let us get more seasons. I hope David Fincher changes his mind and releases more seasons. This show is a cinematic masterpiece.
There's been talk about the third season being made.
2023 and it is officially off the table. Just came here to show support for Season 3. I enjoyed it so much, I'm just HOPING they change their mind and make Season 3. 🤞🏻
The fact that so few cared about those missing black children in Atlanta is still so upsetting... that shit lit a rage in me during Season 2
The fact that no one believed it was a black guy also says a lot.
It was frustrating to watch!
It was big news when the Atlanta child murders happened. It was all over the news. Maybe some didn't care but most did. I was a white kid in Oklahoma City and I was terrified. It was like a nightmare.
Black Lives Matter....right?
@@ashmegspence2597 gotta think this was not to long after the civil rights act so the Atlanta police didnt want to speculate that it was in fear that it would spark a race riot
The actor that portrayed Manson also portrays Manson in the Quentin Tarantino film; Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Damon Herriman.
Was an annoying kid actor down here in Oz back in the Eighties.
Glad to see he's graduated to some really hardcore roles nowadays.
Quite impressed.
And Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is great.
Problem is that in the QT film you blink and almost dont see him.. such a waste of talent.
@@ComaDave I've loved him since Love My Way. He was also excellent in Justified. I've been rooting for his real break-out success for some time now.
Thats Damon an Aussie actor. Look for, Laid, a series he was in. It is darkly funny, He plays a most unlucky chap. Too funny.
Just found out that dude is Australian too, that actor is GREAT !
Easily one of the best damn shows ever made. But one thing no other show will be able to compete with Mindhunter on....the casting choices. They just dont mess around in that department.
5 seasons planned and I will never sub to netflix again, if they cancel this fucking show
@@Konnecta-kb9gg 5 seasons planned! Really!? Yea, I'm gonna be pissed if they cancel. Also, if we have to wait 2 years for every fucking new seeason.
Mazi Johnson if it’s rushed it won’t be as good have patience it will be worth the wait
The German series ‘Dark’ has an amazing cast too!
this show made me very suspicious about every person i encounter 😩
You should be
Dark Lord of Da Communitah hey
Right? Fuck
Same
As you should
Mindhunter is without a doubt the best show that Netflix has to offer.
idc idc idc
Rick and Morty, for me
Dark idc
@@ibelieve2779
You got some low standards bro
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Black mirror ftw
The interview with Manson in season #2 was just amazing. That actor deserves an award. Watched it several times. Although Batshit crazy. It was pretty powerful.
There was a point where I was literally like "He makes some good points"
The casting did a great job with the serial killers,and Manson
Looks incredibly like the real Manson as well. Anyone interested in Manson should read Helter Skelter. That is the best true crime book I've read and I've read many.
He's an Australian actor called Damon Herriman, and he also plays Manson in Tarantino's new film. I agree he deserves an award for this, he was mesmerising.
The tongue poke at the beginning lol
Holden is THICC😍
Cry Whit Ikr that’s all I was thinking when they kept zooming in on him lmao
Dummy thicc 😩🙌🏻
He's gay too...in real life🤤
So, it is basically confirmed that Dahmer will be on season 3 so.. can't wait for that
3rdRedScare would be interesting. All of the actors they have playing the serial killers are killing it. Pun not intended lol
3rdRedScare why dahmer?
Possibly he has the role that BTK had so far because Dahmer was caught on 1991.
It would be awsome to see if Ross Lynch would be the actor of Dahmer, after how amazing he played Dahmer in «my friend Dahmer»
Okay? Even though a third season itself hasn't even been confirmed yet
Can't believe this show is on hold. NETFLIX WHYYYYY
Covid
Joshua Allen Feliciano is it still on hold??
@@sayrishkhan3726 yes, because the producer has no time at the moment since he is taking care of other movies. However, the show will return when he has time again - it hasn't been cancelled
@@NR-jx1fk :((
I wonder the same damn thing! Just rewatched the whole thing and can’t wait there’s no season three!
The only annoying part is Holden's gf
The first time I watched the serie, I found him unsetling because of the actors previous job as Christophe in Frozen.
She disappeared in Season 2 and laughed.
holden walking out and collapsing moments after was such a damn great scene
Loved the Brian storyline, hoping they follow that up. Interested to see how it develops.
I think Brian is developing psychological and sociopathic tendencies. In Season 1 I thought he had some form of autism but now I’m not so sure...
Alice Doe I felt the same as you about autism. Then he started wetting the bed and regressing it seemed in age as in playing with old toys, sucking his thumb, his mom bathing him, etc. glad I’m not the only one.
I’m hoping that Tench looks into Brian’s family history in the next season.
Nia Jones oh man. That’s. Good idea.
It is apparently inspired by real life events. Two boys beat one toddler with a brick and later crucified him, hoping he will be resurectted. We see in the begining that he started to finally act like a normal child, he even spoke to Bill(in season1 he didn't) and said he played with some kids and seemed happy. They are a church going ppl so his idea was to crucify him and no normal child would come to such idea. Also, what do you guys think; why didn't Nancy let the mother of murdered toddler speak with Brian?(Sorry for my bad English)
The actor who performed Brudo maybe someday will be Harvey Weinstein on screen; they're veryy similar
Season 2 began and ended strongly but Season 1 was definitely superior.
In 2 Carr's storyline was weak, Ford was minimized and only Tench matched his interest level from season 1. Greg was also suspiciously absent in the last few episodes. The team apparently have greater funding now but progressed little as far as the study. More happened in season 1 and what happened felt more impactful, the interviews especially.
I agree. The interviews felt a bit routine while in season 1 they were actively driving the plot forward. And I was so much looking forward to the big climactic questioning of Williams in court when the prosecution together with the BSU was struggling to make Williams stop acting like an indignant innocent lamb suffering from outrageous and false accusations. They were exhausting him with questions about all kinds of minutest details for hours, and then all of a sudden slapped him with a question out of nowhere about how he felt murdering the kids. And then he showed his real face. In the book it's quite an intense moment:
«I said to Mallard, "Remember the old TV show» «This Is Your Life?" You’ve got to do that with him. You’ve got to keep him on the stand as long as you can, you’ve got to break him down. Because he’s an overcontrolled, rigid personality, he’s an obsessive-compulsive. And to get to that rigidity, you have to keep the pressure on him, sustain the tension by going through every aspect of his life, even stuff that doesn’t seem to mean anything, like where he went to school. Just keep it up. Then, when you’ve worn him down, you have to physically touch him, just like Al Binder did. What’s good for the defense is good for the prosecution. Move in close, violate his space, and catch him off guard. Before the defense has the opportunity to object, ask him in a low voice, "Did you panic, Wayne, when you killed these kids?"
And when the time comes, that’s just what Mallard does. For the first several hours of cross-examination, he can’t rattle Williams. He catches him up in a number of glaring inconsistencies, but it’s the same calm, "How could it possibly be me?" Williams. The gray-haired, gray-suited Mallard methodically goes through his whole life, then at the right time, he goes in close, puts his hand on Williams’s arm, and in a low, methodical south-Georgia drawl says, "What was it like, Wayne? What was it like when you wrapped your fingers around the victim’s throat? Did you panic? Did you panic?"
And in a weak voice of his own, Williams says, "No."
Then he catches himself. He flies into a rage. He points his finger at me and screams, "You’re trying your best to make me fit that FBI profile, and I’m not going to help you do it!»
John Douglas, Mark Olshaker. «Mindhunter»
The Atlanta case was the main reason for that it felt crowded because that's how it was IRL, it's frustrating but realistic
Carr's storyline was so weak it almost ruined S2 for me. Why have a character there if little of what they do will have any repercussions on the story?
My niece was an extra in one of the episode. I just wanted to say that.😁
SnappingTurtle801 cool! in which episode?
@@petramaria6101 Last episode of season 1 around the 20 minute mark in the grocery store. She's the "bread girl"....lol
SnappingTurtle801 yeeaaah 😁
The prosthetics used for Berkowitz _TERRIFIED_ me 🤢
but they did get his look right, you have to admit...
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey absolutely! I think that’s why it terrified me so much
Glad I wasn't the only one. Is was eerie watching it at night.
yeah i agree, Berkowitz just has a creepy looking face. Reminds me of the Uncanny Valley
I was so caught up but in the scene that although something was off, the thought of prosthetics never crossed my mind.
wayne williams is crazy crazy in the show. insane acting.
Even more crazy in real life.
When Holden said Aww about the bird I burst out laughing 😂😂😂😂
I need season 3 to be released sooner. I can’t do another 2 year wait for such a good show
I watched Hannibal before but it was too unsettling. Mindhunter is just the perfect type of psychology, suspense and drama. See you again in 2021.
True. Hannibal on Netflix is good but too aesthetic, minimalistic. It's more a show for kind of snob people
Well it's not gonna be 2021 sadly
If you haven’t watched the show yet do it it’s one of the best tv shows I ever seen from directing casting and acting
In addition: Filming and cutting was excellent, too!
The best TV show of the last decade, better than Stranger Things.
1. Breaking bad
2. The sopranos
3. Mindhunter
That wouldn't be hard. Stranger things is rubbish
@@jordanking6852 hahah nooo
True Detective
Mindhunter
@@jordanking6852 breaking bad started in the 2000’s
Neeeeedddd moreeeee seasonssssss
And not two years later! Lol
Favourite scene that I watch over again is when Ford gets the son of Sam to admit that his story was fake. That smirk. “Especially the shrinks” Goosebumps yo
I've just seen that scene and I thought the same thing...
The actor playing Edward Kemper, nailed it.
I put Mindhunter up there with The Sopranos, The Wire and Oz. Great show.
The wire is the best
There would be no Mindhunter without True Detective. Both are awesome 🖒
Yuv Ramdharrysing not true. True Detective is a great show, but Mindhunter is more of a continuation of Fincher`s previous serial killer movie based on real life, the Zodiac.
Season 1 of True Detective is untouchable in terms of Crime dramas.
@Stephanie Logan did u even understood the ending of the sopranos
They did an AMAZING casting job. All the killers look just and act like the real thing. 🙌🙌
I hope in season 3 they will interview a woman serial killer. It's always a man, don't know the perspective of a woman looks cool to me
There are actually heaps of female serial killers.
Ceren D. it’s probably because they mostly focus on killers with sexual reasons to kill. most female killers don’t have sexual reasons to kill. sorry for my english, not a native speaker lol
I think that it will be good idea to add some female murders to the show
Aileen Wuornos was the only high profile serial killer caught in the 90s.
Hope they do show her though.
They did Wayne/A black killer, in season 2, so im sure they'll do other rare killers while they're developing the psychology.
MindHunter is the best show I’ve watched since Breaking Bad...there I said it
Oh yes, it's filled that need for something dark and twisted and also somehow beautiful and poignant. A masterpiece.
You should watch the OA
chloe 121 I found it DULL
took the words right out of my mouth..I haven't binge watched a show since Breaking Bad til I stumbled upon MH
Spot on - my absolute Top 2
I sh:tted my pants when kemper immediately stood up on the floor from his bed in hospital when ford went there to visit him.
They got the Wayne Williams actor so perfect down to the T , looked just like the real guy.
This is one the best edited shows i’ve ever seen.
The interrogation screen transition is absolutely captivating. The viewer gets so into the scene that we feel we are in the same room as they are.
One of the best shows I've ever seen. More chilling because I'm old enough to remember when these horrific crimes occured.
Man how do they find these actors? They are not just an amazing actors, also they look exactly same like the real killers. Hats off to creators of this series.
This show is amazing! Tv shows and movies that use gore and violence to creep the viewers out need to take notes from Mindhunter. I think Jason Hill (the composer) deserves tons of awards for what he’s created for the show. And so does every single actor/actress.
people talking about the actor who portrayed Kemper, but just look at that Son Of Sam, fucking spot on
The sound design in season 2 was sooooo good! When they interviewed Mansons puppet, you could softly hear screaming when he talked about killing people.
The mental state of the three leads is really interesting to watch it warp and change as they interact with these individuals
I will never forgive Netflix for cancelling this masterpiece.
I love how they made Ed Kemper so huge, not only physically but just in general. They they shoot scenes with him in, its so tense, especially in the hospital scene
Because the real guy is huge...Don't you know that?
I hope they'd do Bundy, Ramirez and Gacy for season 3, Dahmer and Ridgway for season 4 and finally BTK for season 5 😃
If only they'd give us more seasons ever... 😭
The show canceled
Nope... they're in talks for season 3 now. Was a LONG hiatus.... I'm really hoping for a season 3 soon.
No
@@sarahkatusha5477no
The worst thing about Mindhunter is that Netflix cancelled it
omg did they cancel it??? are u sure?
Omg noooo
This show is still one of the favorites in Netflix ever and it is fascinating about the criminal profiler techniques from FBI and all actors who are played serial killers looks very identical to real life. I am so excited for season 3. I am thinking about what's next investigation for next season.
he btk killer remind me of the angry father from the 70s show
Saleh alenezi red Yeah he kind of looks like him
That’s why I’ve been wondering why he looks familiar
The dad from 70s show played a pretty good psycho in Robo Cop
Dumb ass
My foot in your ass
The only thing scarier than the TV series is the actual interviews from these killers
The first scene in the opening scared the crap out of me.
Same lol I was instantly hooked on the show
I loved this show. I wish they didn't cancel it
@blah blah I hope they do make another season
@blah blah ok sorry.
Mindhunter and Ozark! The best on Netflix
Yassssss couldn't agree more
I remember the BTK I live in Wichita that guy release date is 2180 😅
ua-cam.com/video/zMRrNY0pxfM/v-deo.html
ill be 220 years old
@@djdribbles8515 😂💯
Too soon
@Stephanie Logan We'll Still Look Good.
When Holden says "Awww" to speck & Bill looks at him 😂😂😂
Ed was a very reflective man, about himself and his living standards. It was very interesting to see that a serial killer analyzed himself so much and had the ability to discern his weaknesses.
Pretty much every True Crime buff knows all of these things, if you have read Mindhunter and Whoever Fights Monsters: the first book by John Douglas, the second by Robert K. Ressler. And there are some incredibly choice podcasts you can listen to that have really well told and researched crimes. For the Atkid story I recommend Atlanta Monster.
And Wayne Williams really did hand out his resume...
Really don’t like the Nancy actress, she’s not very convincing
I hate her character
@@steinfliege9912 same
Whoever fights monsters; by Robert Ressler a great audible book. It's the real deal. 😟
Thanks for the recommendation!
Fantastic book. It's brilliant.
Such a good book.
just an incredible series. i hope there will be a lot of other seasons. very good show
I am completely hooked on this series--can't stop watching it. I'm kind of a behavioral science nerd so listening to these serial killers is fascinating. As the team looks for commonality among serial killers and find common threads like overbearing mothers, absentee fathers and the emotional, mental and physical abuse these people suffer as they are asked a series of questions that is supposed to shine a spotlight on WHY these people grew up to do the things they do, the scientific nerd inside me is also wondering why children who grow up in the exact same kinds of environments suffering the same kinds of abuse DON'T focus that rage at other people and go about living very average, normal lives never hurting a flea. Now that would be a show I'd watch as well. What is that thing that keeps an abused child from growing up to be a monster?
Very good question. I think up to now there is no answer. Maybe there is a certain personality we all have just from the beginning.
Love this show. And the actors playing the serials are doppelganger perfect it's crazy.
This show is the best show Netflix has ever produced
Terminating this show without making a season 3 is the biggest crime
This TV Series is a complete Masterpiece. Encyclopedia for Serial Killers.
Richest Themes, Deeper from Facts to Fiction. The Serie of the 2010's Decades.
The guy who played Ed Kemper is incredible actor
Screwnicorn --he is Hensel in Umbrella Academy
That creepy ass music during the BTK scenes always gets to me😵💫
Just finished rewatching Mindhunter. Simply brilliant television. The actors they cast to play Kemper, Berkowitz, Wayne Williams at the other serial killers was so spot on in appearance I had to keep reminding myself they were actors...outstanding work. Such a shame there's not going to be another season anytime soon...
So disappointed that it got canceled
This is one of the Netflix gems that's hidden.
I only found it because I feel in love with Jonathan after watching him as King George in Hamilton and as Patrick in looking.
And I looked up what else he's been in and FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS SERIES
I binge the series twice every month
Just love it and I am not giving up on my hope for it continuing 🥺🙏
I want hear from the actor who played btk how he Felt playing him
I NEED SEASON 3,4 and 5 ppppllleeeaaassseeee
So sad that season 3 is cancelled hiks ... the plot is so good, i still hope here for another season
The casting of the serial killers is so spot on. 💯💯
Why did they stop making this show? Now we will never know if they got BTK.😭
They haven't stopped. It's just delayed for covid
@@bananamcdonald4916 Nooo, it's cancelled.
@@psychopasta9121 NOOO
@@norahroselle but it's cancelled
They got BTK.
'Mindhunter' Season 3 Not Happening, Says David Fincher :'(
Mindhunter is literally the only show i like on netflix and i hope it gets renewed for season 3 because i wanna see other serial killers
That LA LA song was hauntingly perfect.
Really well done series. They made Ed Kemper a little more overweight than the real thing, but you could tell the actor had studied Kemper's speaking patterns. Wayne Williams was spot on. The actor playing Berkowitz looked like he had appliances, but was convincing.
Can’t wait to see if Tench and Ford have some involvement in the capture of Dahmer. They showed Gacy on the board in their offices and I’m hoping Bundy is an interviewee as well.
I think Tench and Ford would be retired by the time Dahmer was caught
maggiethemonkey Dahmer was caught in 91. Season 2 ended in 81. I could see it happening if the show runs for a while. Ford is pretty young to retire in his 30s
@@TheDoubleDinger I'd forgotten what year Dahmer was caught. I thought it was much later than 91
You might be thinking of btk he was caught in 2005
Being mind hunter back!!! WTF 🥺😭