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The best BAU team was Hotch, Prentiss, Rossi, JJ, Reid, Morgan, and Garcia. Their chemistry and friendships just meshed the best - and the studio execs messed with that because they wanted "hotter chicks"? How effing stupid are they?
That is not true AT ALL... Yea at first JJ and Prentiss were let go to bring in a new face (Ashley) but it had NOTHING to do with looks! But they brought them both back! At which point Prentiss CHOSE to leave ON HER OWN. And even if they had never let them go in the first place that team would still have been broken up eventully because of Hotch, Reid, and Morgan leaving the show.. WHICH THE WRITERS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH cuz Hotch was fired because he kicked one of the writers, Reid left because the actor wasn't interested in reprising the role anymore, and Morgan left cuz he wanted to explore new opportunities,
This version of the team was the one I first saw and what got me into Criminal Minds. I lost interest after a while, but this team is very re-wachable. I also did not dislike Ashley and liked her bond with Rossi.
I really liked Gideon, too. I was sad when he left. Rossi was a great addition, but something was lost with Gideon. He challenged Reid on an intellectual level in a way the others couldn’t.
I honestly never blamed Mandy. I know they poke fun at him but it's one thing to read dark content and another thing to have to act it out day after day.
I have no issues with him. Frankly, I adore him and his social media content with his wife is beyond delightful. He originated one of the lead roles in my favorite musical of all time, so I will always love him. That said, it is more than a little odd that he then went on to do another equally violent show given his reasoning here. Also, I understand it isn't the first time that he just bailed on a contract by no longer showing up at work. It is a little hard to understand that in contrast to the person he appears to be.
@@carr0760he is a Broadway actor, I don’t think he is into movies that much. Movies pays bills, theater satisfied the soul of some actors. They can’t do it for too long.
@@laurenmay2098 I am very much aware that he is a Broadway actor, as my comment clearly indicated. Your reply doesn't actually have anything to do with what I said... I was talking about TV shows, not movies, and preferring Theatre to movies doesn't explain walking out on contracts or choosing to do another violent show after claiming that the violence was your reason for quitting this one.
When the “blonde serial killer daughter” came on to replace JJ, my whole family, (who watched religiously) never even bothered with her name. We just called her “Not JJ”. That was her name to us.
So they tried to swap out the women for younger models because they assumed people would care more about their attractiveness than their characters. Lovely 🤢
And AJ Cook is pretty, young and about a size 0/2. It was joked about in one of the episodes when Spence called her a mean girl.😂 I just Googled her, she's 44 now. Still young!
The fact that aj cook was fired 2 episode after season 6 aired makes me mad. Luckily she returned in season seven. Also kinda sad that Paget Brewster went on a 5 seasons hiatus
I never understood what happened with Paget Brewster. She's always been my favourite character apart from Garcia and I don't know why so many departures and come backs. Now I'm happy because she's back and leading the team
Well, as the video explains, she was fired the first time. The second time she chose to leave to pursue other projects. That didn't work out for her, so she came back.
Criminal minds stopped feeling like Criminal minds when Hotch left. He was the glue that kept the show together and even though the show was slowly declining before he left, his absence highlight the downslide the show was on. It’s even worse when it’s been revealed that the firing was murky and the writer he ‘kicked’ wasn’t known for being a good guy.
Agreed - most jumped on Thomas Gibson and his "anger issues". It was the case of taking a side without even listening to the other side. I'm not saying the kicking was the correct way to handle it, if it even happened, but to Gibson - I barely saw any work for him after this, it was sad seeing that this one situation affected his career, as he was a great actor. I really hope he's holding it up well, and us fans know his character was irreplaceable.
@@siljorfag Yeah he shouldn't have lashed out like that, but I imagine that after several years of working with a writer who actively antagonizes the rest of the crew, you can't hold it back anymore.
@tebogosophie6952 not saying he was right. But apparently the guy he kicked was weird around the woman staff. So ynow assault. But maybe not necessarily a bad guy.
Paget mentioned once that the only reason emily came back in s7 was that she was threatened with lawsuit and had to wait till her contract was up to leave, that's why emily left after s7
the whole firing aj and paget thing was so messed up but also I didn't like how jj became a profiler, like her role as a media liaison was iconic and I just didn't understand the reasoning for it. I liked gideon and completely understood why mandy left; that clip of aj and joe laughing at his reasoning is so gross like sorry not everyone can stomach these gruel stories! Also regarding thomas gibson, i read somewhere that he was defending some cast members/staff who were being harassed by virgil (not that im saying that what he did was right; he obviously should've handled it better especially due to his previous altercations). this was a great video nonetheless!
mochte sie auch, aber ihr Einstieg hat mich immer gestört, sie war von Minute eins an zu integriert zu familiär zu laut, sie war doch eine Fremde im Team, alle anderen Darsteller hatten eine logische Phase des Kennenlernens, sie dagegen ist eingeschlagen wie ein Meteor, es hat die gewachsene Familie von CM für mich irgendwie zerstört und war unpassend
The moment Thomas Gibson/Aaron Hotchner left the show, I just mentally checked out. There were still other characters to enjoy sure: Gubler/Reid and Cook/J.J. wouldn't leave until season 15 (the second to last season) and Brewster/Prentiss, Bernero/Rossi & Vangsness/Garcia stayed on the show until the end of its run. But similarly to how Moore's/Morgan's departure marked the end of the show's golden age (seasons 3-11), Hotchner being gone was just a *death mark* for the show. Plain and simple. Hell, it if you don't believe me, some Network TV channels that show reruns *don't even bother* showing anything past season 12.
This easily could have been a Top 20 list. We definitely need a part 2!! Please? I've been watching this show since episode 1 and I still think it's one of the best shows on television. The writing, casting, sets, everything! Absolutely stellar. I like the spin off series' as well but they never seem to last. I'd love to see a "Top 50 times crime shows tackled real life crimes" video from you folks. Law and Order, Criminal Minds, all the CSI series' have tackled everything from Robert Picton to Bernardo/Homolka to JonBenet Ramsey and those are just the few I remember off the top of my head. Fantastic videos! Thanks for all the hard work you do!!
@@MsMojo Awesome!! Thank you so much! A video of just Penelope and Morgan would be my dream. Something like "Top 20 times we all wished we had a friend like this" would be incredible although a general "Top 20 times Criminal MInds made us laugh" would be wonderful too!
@@caseymacmacl7463 Ooh! Those are good ideas! I personally love the back and forth teasing by Morgan and Reid, like when Morgan appeared on TV, but gave out Reid’s name and number 🤭 I also thought about making a list of UnSubs that you feel sorry for. Like, the guy who thought his family had been replaced by imposters, so he killed his mom and dad. Turns out, he has Capgras syndrome, where his brain didn’t recognize faces anymore ☹️
@@susanrobinson910 Another sympathetic unsub was the young woman who abducted petite women to replace a set of three dolls that her abusive (CSA) father took from her. The way she looked at her “dolls” with concerned affection was brilliant.
Criminal Minds is one of the best series ever to be shown on TV, story, actors, filming etc. Thomas Gibson absolutely owned his role and I do think criminal minds lost a whole lot of fans when he was fired. His silent presence is still missed. . Mandy Patkin was perfect but I understand the role to be too dark he did a brilliant job! . I love JJ she is perfect and she should never have been gone, she brings beauty and Grace to the darkness. Garcia is just the rainbow in the clouds. Love her weirdness! I liked Paget from day one! Sheemar Moore. One of the most beautiful people ever to be put on this earth. I was sad to see him go. I enjoyed the new season of Chriminal Minds evolution. The serial killer network and kill kits was definitely worth the watch. Looking forward to the new season.
Agree with you about Mandy. I really liked his character and was my favorite on the show (especially his relationship with Reid), but at the end of the day this is just a job. Life is too short to spend long days doing something you don't like if you have the chance to do something that makes you happy.
Hotch, Rossi, Morgan, Prentiss, Reid, JJ, and Garcia are the reason why Criminal Minds was/is so popular. It will never be the same without them. Even though I have nothing against all the new/other characters like Lewis, Alvez, etc. but they are just not as good as the others.
There wasn’t a single main cast member of the original Criminal Minds that I didn’t like, a couple that I didn’t love but I liked them all. I loved Mandy Patinkin. How they originally ended his character was great only to ruin it in a later season.
I may be in a minority, but I actually enjoyed Jennifer Love Hewitt on Criminal Minds while it lasted. The network seemed to have trouble with having a consistent cast throughout the show’s run.
I found her to be an underrated addition to Criminal Minds. But, I am glad that the supposed dislike of her and her character on the show didn't factor into her exit. Also, the showrunners did say that they would leave the door open if she ever wanted to return.
8:59 the fact that they joke about Mandy leaving the show because it was destroyed his soul and personality and he should’ve “read the pilot closer” is kind of gross to me and makes me lose a lot of respect for them. Being a part of something that dark can really affect someone Kenta and emotionally after a time. Look at Evan Peters needing a break from AHS after portraying some of the characters he has. Some people just have more of a tolerance for it than others. Mandy was doing what was best for him mentally and emotionally by removing himself from the show, and rather than making fun of him, they should respect that, and respect that he opened the door for Joe Mantegna to even join the Criminal Minds universe.
I think it's partially that this wasn't the first time he bailed on a show, and also that he went on to another show that was pretty dark as well, yet didn't see to have a problem with that one. His reasoning seemed inconsistent with his actions.
Well, he left without warning any of the cast and crew, when the scripts with him on it were already done and ready for table read. He just didn't show up, nobody knew if the network would continue the show without the main character and everyone thought they would loose their jobs, they were scared for a couple weeks and lost on what to do. It's not good for them to hold a grudge for so long, but it was very rude of him to not announce to his coworkers he was leaving. Even the exucutive producer didn't know untill he got a call from the network.
@@Mystress1980 I don’t follow his career closely so I don’t know what he did before or after, but that’s fair then. It’ll definitely cause issues for him in the long run if he’s seen as someone that isn’t reliable and can just up and leave with no notice.
@@Ana_Paula.Frasson I can completely agree with you on that. I think it’s pretty awful to just leave everyone hanging and not let them know you don’t plan to return, no matter how you choose to do it. He did have obligations to fulfill, and he could have at least told them he’d like to be done so he could be properly written out, although I think they did a pretty good job of it with the little notice they were given (which I understand was none).
@@Mystress1980Homeland wasn't about women being assaulted all the time. That was what he stated that he couldn't take the brutal stories that were mostly about women. If you look back it's pretty true. Homeland wasn't like that.
@@alix1602 maybe, but I do believe the character of gibbs has left ncis a few seasons ago so he could of been moaning about that ( and being a troll ) hoping no one would notice
I have always hated what they did to Paget Brewster and AJ Cook. And I don't blame Paget Brewster for leaving after they screwed with her and fired her and then pressured her to come back for season 7 like nothing happened. She's my favorite so I hated it but was happy that she knew her self-worth and walked ... super happy she came back later!
Ya know I always wondered why every season there was another new lady actress and while I didn't put a lot of thought into it, it did make it difficult to get to know new characters and really bond with them. But new women?? AJ Cook & Paget Brewster are stunning and both climbed to the top of some of my favorite characters in tv shows! So, shame on those higher ups, and I'm glad the fans were able to bring them back❤
This is why we never know about the behind the scenes unless you research about it or why you might hear it on the entertainment news. I remember I was so shocked about the stuff going on behind the Power Rangers original first two seasons. I never knew until much later.
My all time favourite character from Criminal Minds was Aaron Hotcher. I obviously watched for the show, but I also watched for Hotch. When he had to leave, I still had David Rossi...my second favourite, but it just wasn't the same for me.
I liked JLH in Criminal Minds. I didn’t know some of the stuff. I did know about the actress who played Emily. But didn’t know about the actress who played JJ.
The xenophobia in Beyond Borders was apparent from the opening titles. When I first heard the line "every year, millions of Americans leave the safety of the United States," I burst into hysterical laughter. The total lack of self-awareness of the writers was evident from the outset, especially when some of the episodes were set in Europe, where crime rates and, in particular, homicide rates are much lower than in the US.
The crazy part to me is that she said fans liked Alex Blake... Everyone I know HATED that character more than any other on the show. JLH was probably 3rd worst for me after Blake and Elle.
Me neither, I have only ever seen a few episodes but I thought she was pretty good. It's weird how some ppl watch a piece of media and decide they don't like a cast member for no reason
didnt know about JLH not being liked, i thought her character was fine and did bring a little more lightheartedness to the private lives of the characters and the storyline with her kid is interesting, heck i still kinda want closure on that since it is one of the criminal networks that didnt get shutdown fully if i remembered correctly.
I've always felt bad for Beyond Borders... I liked the characters A LOT, they felt just as good as the OG cast, and the general idea was cool. But then... It just went this bad... 😢
@@frostyfly31122 Yeah, also the fact that it's visually GOOD. I mean, had it had some decent writing it would have outclassed the original CM as for production by A LOT.
The characters may be good but the whole premise was full of chauvinistic points, from the start sentence ("Americans leaving the 'safety' of their borders"? When some of the compared places were Japan or France, where crime statistics are much more lower than in USA to the complete "my way or the highway" mode to treat cultural differences... Good idea, poorly executed
I liked the first spinoff of Criminal Minds and wished it could have lasted longer than one season. At least Matt Ryan would later go on to play one of my favorite television characters, John Constantine.
Paget Brewster and AJ Cook were done dirty by this show, gee. I'm so glad they are back on the show in Criminal Minds: Evolution and also representing exactly what we need.
I never had a problem with Jennifer Love Hewitts character. I was one of the petitioners when AJ, left. I feel bad for Rachel Nichols she was thrown into all this because of cheap producers who didn't want to pay the women on the show. There wasn't anyone I didn't like on the show.
Pager wanted to do more comedy shows, that’s why she left at the end of season 7. After they fired her, she was casted and already committed to another show. Hence why she left. I’m glad she returned cuz Emily’s my favorite character.
My wife hosted a Pilates workshop at our studio. They used a buddy system for some exercises. Thomas Gibson attended and was my Pilates partner. He struck me as a nice, regular guy.
Not me saying they shouldn't have fired Thomas Gibson for what he did, but the show didn't feel the same after Hotch's departure. It just proved the character's strengths.
One thing about Mandy Patinkin is that when he's done, he's done. He didn't like Dead Like Me, left for Criminal Minds, and disappointed the entire fanbase (A pity. I fucking loved that show). Then, he didn't like Criminal Minds either. I guess Homeland wasn't as dark as Criminal Minds, because he stayed there for the entire duration of the show.
I genuikeley loved Jennifer Love Hewitt on the show. I loved them all. And her season is my favorite season. The story throughout the whole season was great in my opinion.
I think the worst thing that happened was screwing with a great cast when you finally had a Winner - JJ, Hotch, Reid, Prentiss, Morgan, Garcia and Rossi were Synergistic ... they were the show!
Okay so everyone knows that the best reason to watch Criminal Minds is the adorable computer lady, I forget her name but I'd make a Dante style run into hell and jaw jack the devil for her.
Btw-a great episode featuring Garcia’s origins at the BAU is called The Black Queen. Can’t remember which season though. You know, Penelope gave Hotch a resume on pink paper? Handwritten, at that?
Its crazy that they replaced jj and prentiss for "not being young and attractive enough." Im watching the show start to finish as a 24 year old rn and while its not the most respectful way to describe these very talented women, they are still so stupidly hot at their time of firing and are still attractive older women now
To me, Aaron Hotchner was the face of the Criminal Minds. When Hotch left, my heart left, too. It was like Dumbledoor dying in Harry Potter. They should not just fire him like that. He deserves a lot more better treatment than that. And why did Morgan left the show? Anybody?
Thomas Gibson gave an interview where he claimed he crossed his legs and his foot nudged the producer. But it was presented that he hauled off and kicked him like a toddler.
I know some of these scandals especially with CM: Beyond Borders (watched the entire season: my opinion - very weak plots and doesn’t match up to the original run) and Thomas Gibson as Aaron Hotchner leaving (I heard that he’s quite notorious to work with so I’m not surprised that they let him go).
I remember when Thomas got fired, Shemar posted a video about 'karma'. Apparently they did not get along on set, and allegedly was one of the reasons Shemar left the show.🤷♂️
Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders was the only Criminal Minds series to feature two former CSI actors as main characters. Gary Sinise previously appeared on CSI: NY as Mac Taylor and Alana de La Garza previously appeared on CSI: Miami as Marisol Delko, later Marisol Delko-Caine. In the original Criminal Minds series there was only 1 and that was Adam Rodriquez who played the role of Eric Delko in CSI: Miami.
I never understood the hate for Jennifer Love Hewitt. I actually liked her character and really wanted her to stay on. I watched Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum where he interviewed her and she said that she took time off from acting after leaving Criminal Minds. I was shocked that Thomas Gibson was fired but understood why and Mandy Patinkin, I never understood because he went from Criminal Minds to Homeland, a show about terrorists. That never made sense to me.
I find it amusing that the stoic Hotch character was played by an actor fired for violent outbursts! Hotch would never! He played a similarly unemotional lawyer in the series Dharma & Greg.
Never understood the problem with Hewitt's character. I liked her a lot, I thought she was a good addition to the team. She had a light vibe that brought some confort to the team... especially in the season she entered, where there were so many dark things going on. Such a shame to see people basically chased her out. Also, when JJ and Prentiss left I was so pissed. I watched the season just to see if they would be back, it felt so weird that they would remove such major characters out of the show like that. So glad they came back, and JJ became such a badass.
I have the impression the network took a long time to realize who their public were?! Like they really believed it was a majority male audience, when actually is more female, especially younger women (I'm not saying the show didn't have male fans, I'm just saying is not the huge majority as they seemed to believe.) And so they didn't realized how AJ and Padget were important and how much they'd be missed because women generally get really more attached to characters like these. I do however think the fandom was very unfair and rude to Rachel Nichols, she wasn't the one firing AJ Cook, she didn't accept a role to replace anyone, it's not her fault that those exects thought that and the way nobody bother to tell her she was fired untill s7 started production and she simply wasn't invited was so rude. She found out her character wasn't coming back via twitter, that's so horrible.
Mandy leaving was regrettable because of how well he portrayed his character, but I understand how living in darkness, even a fictional darkness can wear down someone's soul. As if the terrible acts alone weren't enough, Criminal Minds delved deeper into each unsub's psyche as the main method of catching them. The twisted logic that many of the criminals would follow, no matter how absurd it is to a "normal" person, made sense when looking at the wider picture, and you could connect the dots, often being a representation of their descent into their madness. Like growing up with an abusive mother, only to later target victims that were reminiscent of her, and seeing the lines blur between the unsub's past and the victim's present, with the kill triggering a sort of cathartic release of closing the chapter of their nightmarish childhood. Only for the dreams of past abuses to return, triggering a need to find another victim and another release. It was often simultaneously astounding and horrifying to realize how human these unsubs often were, and how easily given similar circumstances, the viewer could have turned out like them. As a viewer, we just sit back and suspend disbelief as we watch a show. As an actor in the show, you develop an understanding about your character and all the characters you interact with. There's the core being of you that gets exposed to all these other elements, like a flagpole in harsh and bitter winds. It's not so bad when you're in a rom com or something, but when you're dealing with such dark material about the human psyche, realizing that these various "evil" characters are human underneath, sort of reflecting versions of yourself that could have been you if your life had gone differently, is a difficult concept to come to terms with. It's hard to dismiss it as a mere acting gig or an overreaction because it's fake, fiction, when you can see yourself in the unsub's shoes and realize you could face the same mental break they did and envision yourself committing the same atrocious acts as a result. And it's made even worse when you have quality actors portraying these villains because it drives the point home even harder. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
I heard that the whole reason behind thomas kicking the writer was being he was being gross to AJ and the other women on set. Not sure if it was true bjt if it is, we want thomas back :(
I actually quit watching Criminal Minds at around the same time that Mandy Patinkin did. I found it to be too disturbing and it caused me to have nightmares. About a year later I read an article in which Mandy Patinkin stated that he found it disturbing.
Which of these controversies do YOU think is the craziest? Let us know below, and check out our video of the Top 20 Real-Life Crimes that Inspired Criminal Minds - ua-cam.com/video/kwn_pJX6MaI/v-deo.html
The best BAU team was Hotch, Prentiss, Rossi, JJ, Reid, Morgan, and Garcia. Their chemistry and friendships just meshed the best - and the studio execs messed with that because they wanted "hotter chicks"? How effing stupid are they?
I agree they are the best team!
That is not true AT ALL... Yea at first JJ and Prentiss were let go to bring in a new face (Ashley) but it had NOTHING to do with looks! But they brought them both back! At which point Prentiss CHOSE to leave ON HER OWN. And even if they had never let them go in the first place that team would still have been broken up eventully because of Hotch, Reid, and Morgan leaving the show.. WHICH THE WRITERS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH cuz Hotch was fired because he kicked one of the writers, Reid left because the actor wasn't interested in reprising the role anymore, and Morgan left cuz he wanted to explore new opportunities,
Heterosexual men; what are you going to do ??
This version of the team was the one I first saw and what got me into Criminal Minds. I lost interest after a while, but this team is very re-wachable. I also did not dislike Ashley and liked her bond with Rossi.
I really liked Gideon, too. I was sad when he left. Rossi was a great addition, but something was lost with Gideon. He challenged Reid on an intellectual level in a way the others couldn’t.
I honestly never blamed Mandy. I know they poke fun at him but it's one thing to read dark content and another thing to have to act it out day after day.
I have no issues with him. Frankly, I adore him and his social media content with his wife is beyond delightful. He originated one of the lead roles in my favorite musical of all time, so I will always love him.
That said, it is more than a little odd that he then went on to do another equally violent show given his reasoning here. Also, I understand it isn't the first time that he just bailed on a contract by no longer showing up at work. It is a little hard to understand that in contrast to the person he appears to be.
They look at the money and the work
@@carr0760he is a Broadway actor, I don’t think he is into movies that much. Movies pays bills, theater satisfied the soul of some actors. They can’t do it for too long.
@@laurenmay2098 I am very much aware that he is a Broadway actor, as my comment clearly indicated. Your reply doesn't actually have anything to do with what I said... I was talking about TV shows, not movies, and preferring Theatre to movies doesn't explain walking out on contracts or choosing to do another violent show after claiming that the violence was your reason for quitting this one.
@carr0760 geez came down person, came down. No one can say anything contrary to your opinion? So what the hell are you doing here them?
When the “blonde serial killer daughter” came on to replace JJ, my whole family, (who watched religiously) never even bothered with her name. We just called her “Not JJ”. That was her name to us.
I thought I’m the only one who feel this. Her acting was so bad I thought she just a replacement
I actually liked her, I thought her backstory would make her an interesting character.
Ashley was a good character!
Reminds me of how crowley has sam and Dean listed in his phone as moose and not moose 😂
haha, literally same
So they tried to swap out the women for younger models because they assumed people would care more about their attractiveness than their characters. Lovely 🤢
Right? Smh
I'm glad that backfired on them.
And AJ Cook is pretty, young and about a size 0/2. It was joked about in one of the episodes when Spence called her a mean girl.😂
I just Googled her, she's 44 now. Still young!
THAT IS NOT TRUE... They just wanted to change things up IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH LOOKS
@@marieangels6 prove me wrong
The fact that aj cook was fired 2 episode after season 6 aired makes me mad. Luckily she returned in season seven. Also kinda sad that Paget Brewster went on a 5 seasons hiatus
Paget also did another show in her absence, for 2 season
@@moonbaby2212 which one
@@leonardolim8976 grandfather with John stamos and josh peck
That's only like one season. Still leaves alot of gaps
@@moonbaby2212 She was on Community, as well. I think it was around that time but it could've been later.
I never understood what happened with Paget Brewster. She's always been my favourite character apart from Garcia and I don't know why so many departures and come backs. Now I'm happy because she's back and leading the team
Well, as the video explains, she was fired the first time. The second time she chose to leave to pursue other projects. That didn't work out for her, so she came back.
Criminal minds stopped feeling like Criminal minds when Hotch left. He was the glue that kept the show together and even though the show was slowly declining before he left, his absence highlight the downslide the show was on.
It’s even worse when it’s been revealed that the firing was murky and the writer he ‘kicked’ wasn’t known for being a good guy.
Agreed - most jumped on Thomas Gibson and his "anger issues". It was the case of taking a side without even listening to the other side. I'm not saying the kicking was the correct way to handle it, if it even happened, but to Gibson - I barely saw any work for him after this, it was sad seeing that this one situation affected his career, as he was a great actor. I really hope he's holding it up well, and us fans know his character was irreplaceable.
@@siljorfag Yeah he shouldn't have lashed out like that, but I imagine that after several years of working with a writer who actively antagonizes the rest of the crew, you can't hold it back anymore.
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@@siljorfag 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hard disagree
I thought Gideons departure was a real loss for the show but after Hotch disappeared I lost all interest 🤔
THIIISSS, 1000% AGREE
Same!
Me too...
AGREEEEEE!!! Never watched criminal minds again after Thomas Gibson disappeared. 😢 He's my fave!
You missed out
For someone really into this show, I did not know this
Fake fan
Same here. Maybe is because we don't live on twitter all day long
Same, the way I just clicked so fast 😅
@@IsraelLlerena cringe
Same
Is it bad I still want Thomas Gibson to come back because no one can replace him
No, not bad at all.
Girl we all want him back
Seriously! They all lost out when Gibson got fired.
Nah we all definitely want Hotch back lol
Yeah it's bad.. he's an abuser. No amount of good acting can excuse that.
For me the show died when Hotch left. he was the heart of the BAU and it was never the same without him.
HE ASSAULTED SOMEONE
@@marieangels6OP WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE ACTOR BUT THE CHARACTER
@Purple_Sweater 😂😂yes we don't care about the person😂
@tebogosophie6952 not saying he was right. But apparently the guy he kicked was weird around the woman staff. So ynow assault. But maybe not necessarily a bad guy.
@@marieangels6 the guy he kicked was weird around woman. Not saying he should kick him. But he may not ne a bad guy just cuz he did.
Paget mentioned once that the only reason emily came back in s7 was that she was threatened with lawsuit and had to wait till her contract was up to leave, that's why emily left after s7
Whaaaat🥺
the whole firing aj and paget thing was so messed up but also I didn't like how jj became a profiler, like her role as a media liaison was iconic and I just didn't understand the reasoning for it. I liked gideon and completely understood why mandy left; that clip of aj and joe laughing at his reasoning is so gross like sorry not everyone can stomach these gruel stories! Also regarding thomas gibson, i read somewhere that he was defending some cast members/staff who were being harassed by virgil (not that im saying that what he did was right; he obviously should've handled it better especially due to his previous altercations). this was a great video nonetheless!
Yes to everything
I actually like JJ as profiler
Yes she was more iconic as a media liason but even as a profiler she's awsome
JJ is the Olivia Benson of Criminal Minds
I actually really liked Jennifer Love Hewitt, especially since the theme around Season 8 seemed to circle around child trafficking and similar issues.
mochte sie auch, aber ihr Einstieg hat mich immer gestört, sie war von Minute eins an zu integriert zu familiär zu laut, sie war doch eine Fremde im Team, alle anderen Darsteller hatten eine logische Phase des Kennenlernens, sie dagegen ist eingeschlagen wie ein Meteor, es hat die gewachsene Familie von CM für mich irgendwie zerstört und war unpassend
The moment Thomas Gibson/Aaron Hotchner left the show, I just mentally checked out.
There were still other characters to enjoy sure:
Gubler/Reid and Cook/J.J. wouldn't leave until season 15 (the second to last season) and Brewster/Prentiss, Bernero/Rossi & Vangsness/Garcia stayed on the show until the end of its run.
But similarly to how Moore's/Morgan's departure marked the end of the show's golden age (seasons 3-11), Hotchner being gone was just a *death mark* for the show. Plain and simple.
Hell, it if you don't believe me, some Network TV channels that show reruns *don't even bother* showing anything past season 12.
Rossi's character is played by Joe Mantegna btw
yes , i agree show's golden age (seasons 3-11) but i love too 1 and 2
This easily could have been a Top 20 list. We definitely need a part 2!! Please? I've been watching this show since episode 1 and I still think it's one of the best shows on television. The writing, casting, sets, everything! Absolutely stellar. I like the spin off series' as well but they never seem to last. I'd love to see a "Top 50 times crime shows tackled real life crimes" video from you folks. Law and Order, Criminal Minds, all the CSI series' have tackled everything from Robert Picton to Bernardo/Homolka to JonBenet Ramsey and those are just the few I remember off the top of my head. Fantastic videos! Thanks for all the hard work you do!!
We have more Criminal Minds videos in the works! :)
@@MsMojo Awesome!! Thank you so much! A video of just Penelope and Morgan would be my dream. Something like "Top 20 times we all wished we had a friend like this" would be incredible although a general "Top 20 times Criminal MInds made us laugh" would be wonderful too!
@@caseymacmacl7463 Ooh! Those are good ideas! I personally love the back and forth teasing by Morgan and Reid, like when Morgan appeared on TV, but gave out Reid’s name and number 🤭 I also thought about making a list of UnSubs that you feel sorry for. Like, the guy who thought his family had been replaced by imposters, so he killed his mom and dad. Turns out, he has Capgras syndrome, where his brain didn’t recognize faces anymore ☹️
@@susanrobinson910 Another sympathetic unsub was the young woman who abducted petite women to replace a set of three dolls that her abusive (CSA) father took from her. The way she looked at her “dolls” with concerned affection was brilliant.
Criminal Minds is one of the best series ever to be shown on TV, story, actors, filming etc.
Thomas Gibson absolutely owned his role and I do think criminal minds lost a whole lot of fans when he was fired. His silent presence is still missed. . Mandy Patkin was perfect but I understand the role to be too dark he did a brilliant job! . I love JJ she is perfect and she should never have been gone, she brings beauty and Grace to the darkness. Garcia is just the rainbow in the clouds. Love her weirdness! I liked Paget from day one! Sheemar Moore. One of the most beautiful people ever to be put on this earth. I was sad to see him go.
I enjoyed the new season of Chriminal Minds evolution. The serial killer network and kill kits was definitely worth the watch. Looking forward to the new season.
Agree with you about Mandy. I really liked his character and was my favorite on the show (especially his relationship with Reid), but at the end of the day this is just a job. Life is too short to spend long days doing something you don't like if you have the chance to do something that makes you happy.
Hotch, Rossi, Morgan, Prentiss, Reid, JJ, and Garcia are the reason why Criminal Minds was/is so popular. It will never be the same without them. Even though I have nothing against all the new/other characters like Lewis, Alvez, etc. but they are just not as good as the others.
There wasn’t a single main cast member of the original Criminal Minds that I didn’t like, a couple that I didn’t love but I liked them all.
I loved Mandy Patinkin. How they originally ended his character was great only to ruin it in a later season.
I absolutely love Gideon's character. I can't stand all the hate he gets
I actually loved all criminal minds characters
They were amazing 👏
Especially Shemar Moore as Derek Morgan
Number 1: Spencer's hair changes
"Did you join a boy band?" 😂
To be fair, no haircut works for that guy.
Exactly
We need a spinoff series where Spencer Reid goes to the barbershop
I may be in a minority, but I actually enjoyed Jennifer Love Hewitt on Criminal Minds while it lasted. The network seemed to have trouble with having a consistent cast throughout the show’s run.
I found her to be an underrated addition to Criminal Minds. But, I am glad that the supposed dislike of her and her character on the show didn't factor into her exit. Also, the showrunners did say that they would leave the door open if she ever wanted to return.
I loved her in the show!
Same!!
She was a good character. And a rare thing for BAU she had a normal family with a husband and a daughter.
I loved her! I was extremely disappointed she only did one season
8:59 the fact that they joke about Mandy leaving the show because it was destroyed his soul and personality and he should’ve “read the pilot closer” is kind of gross to me and makes me lose a lot of respect for them. Being a part of something that dark can really affect someone Kenta and emotionally after a time. Look at Evan Peters needing a break from AHS after portraying some of the characters he has. Some people just have more of a tolerance for it than others. Mandy was doing what was best for him mentally and emotionally by removing himself from the show, and rather than making fun of him, they should respect that, and respect that he opened the door for Joe Mantegna to even join the Criminal Minds universe.
I think it's partially that this wasn't the first time he bailed on a show, and also that he went on to another show that was pretty dark as well, yet didn't see to have a problem with that one. His reasoning seemed inconsistent with his actions.
Well, he left without warning any of the cast and crew, when the scripts with him on it were already done and ready for table read. He just didn't show up, nobody knew if the network would continue the show without the main character and everyone thought they would loose their jobs, they were scared for a couple weeks and lost on what to do. It's not good for them to hold a grudge for so long, but it was very rude of him to not announce to his coworkers he was leaving. Even the exucutive producer didn't know untill he got a call from the network.
@@Mystress1980 I don’t follow his career closely so I don’t know what he did before or after, but that’s fair then. It’ll definitely cause issues for him in the long run if he’s seen as someone that isn’t reliable and can just up and leave with no notice.
@@Ana_Paula.Frasson I can completely agree with you on that. I think it’s pretty awful to just leave everyone hanging and not let them know you don’t plan to return, no matter how you choose to do it. He did have obligations to fulfill, and he could have at least told them he’d like to be done so he could be properly written out, although I think they did a pretty good job of it with the little notice they were given (which I understand was none).
@@Mystress1980Homeland wasn't about women being assaulted all the time. That was what he stated that he couldn't take the brutal stories that were mostly about women. If you look back it's pretty true. Homeland wasn't like that.
Gibbs absence is still missed from criminal minds the show isn't the same without him or Spencer in evolutions. Or derek
Well Gibbs has never been in the show I think you will find he was in ncis , so you are wrong
@@tashaelton5413 I assume he meant Thomas Gibson..
@@alix1602 maybe, but I do believe the character of gibbs has left ncis a few seasons ago so he could of been moaning about that ( and being a troll ) hoping no one would notice
@@tashaelton5413 I meant Thomas gibson
Gibson was fired cuz he kicked a writer! Good riddence!
I have always hated what they did to Paget Brewster and AJ Cook. And I don't blame Paget Brewster for leaving after they screwed with her and fired her and then pressured her to come back for season 7 like nothing happened. She's my favorite so I hated it but was happy that she knew her self-worth and walked ... super happy she came back later!
I still think it's hilarious that Gibson kicked the guy. Like.... of all physical actions, why kicking? I need to know 😂
App the person he kicked was a sex offender and used to sexually harass ppl on the show
I miss Hotch and Morgan.
For me the Team is Hotch, Rossi, Morgan, JJ, Emily, Garcia and Reid❤
But Matt ist also good ❤
Matt Simmons doesn't get the credit he deserves
He needs more attention
Great character
He was the only good thing in CM:Beyond Borders
Ya know I always wondered why every season there was another new lady actress and while I didn't put a lot of thought into it, it did make it difficult to get to know new characters and really bond with them. But new women?? AJ Cook & Paget Brewster are stunning and both climbed to the top of some of my favorite characters in tv shows! So, shame on those higher ups, and I'm glad the fans were able to bring them back❤
Wow I've been a diehard fan of this show for years and I didn't know any of this. Except for Thomas Gibson being fired 😮
This is why we never know about the behind the scenes unless you research about it or why you might hear it on the entertainment news. I remember I was so shocked about the stuff going on behind the Power Rangers original first two seasons. I never knew until much later.
I was not a fan of Seaver. Glad JJ and Emily came back but I never realized that they were fired in the first place so that’s pretty upsetting.
Seaver was a good character but nothing special
Can we talk about how great the casting of young Gideon was? Legitimately great acting.
My all time favourite character from Criminal Minds was Aaron Hotcher. I obviously watched for the show, but I also watched for Hotch. When he had to leave, I still had David Rossi...my second favourite, but it just wasn't the same for me.
Rossi is my favorite CM character
Joe Mantegna absolutely nailed it
I liked JLH in Criminal Minds. I didn’t know some of the stuff. I did know about the actress who played Emily. But didn’t know about the actress who played JJ.
They really should bring back some of these other actors for the new show, the team really feels small.
The xenophobia in Beyond Borders was apparent from the opening titles. When I first heard the line "every year, millions of Americans leave the safety of the United States," I burst into hysterical laughter. The total lack of self-awareness of the writers was evident from the outset, especially when some of the episodes were set in Europe, where crime rates and, in particular, homicide rates are much lower than in the US.
I don’t know why people didn’t like Jennifer Love Hewitt on the show.
The crazy part to me is that she said fans liked Alex Blake... Everyone I know HATED that character more than any other on the show. JLH was probably 3rd worst for me after Blake and Elle.
Me neither, I have only ever seen a few episodes but I thought she was pretty good. It's weird how some ppl watch a piece of media and decide they don't like a cast member for no reason
@@georgeapaton9591 I've rewatched most of the seasons many times but I really can't remember her stuff.
didnt know about JLH not being liked, i thought her character was fine and did bring a little more lightheartedness to the private lives of the characters and the storyline with her kid is interesting, heck i still kinda want closure on that since it is one of the criminal networks that didnt get shutdown fully if i remembered correctly.
I've always felt bad for Beyond Borders... I liked the characters A LOT, they felt just as good as the OG cast, and the general idea was cool. But then... It just went this bad... 😢
At least, one of those characters was carried back over to the main series.
same, they had a great cast just rubbish writing. no idea who the heck approved the scripts, so many inaccuracies that its hilarious.
@@frostyfly31122 Yeah, also the fact that it's visually GOOD. I mean, had it had some decent writing it would have outclassed the original CM as for production by A LOT.
The characters may be good but the whole premise was full of chauvinistic points, from the start sentence ("Americans leaving the 'safety' of their borders"? When some of the compared places were Japan or France, where crime statistics are much more lower than in USA to the complete "my way or the highway" mode to treat cultural differences... Good idea, poorly executed
I liked the first spinoff of Criminal Minds and wished it could have lasted longer than one season. At least Matt Ryan would later go on to play one of my favorite television characters, John Constantine.
Paget Brewster and AJ Cook were done dirty by this show, gee. I'm so glad they are back on the show in Criminal Minds: Evolution and also representing exactly what we need.
I never had a problem with Jennifer Love Hewitts character. I was one of the petitioners when AJ, left. I feel bad for Rachel Nichols she was thrown into all this because of cheap producers who didn't want to pay the women on the show. There wasn't anyone I didn't like on the show.
Pager wanted to do more comedy shows, that’s why she left at the end of season 7. After they fired her, she was casted and already committed to another show. Hence why she left. I’m glad she returned cuz Emily’s my favorite character.
My wife hosted a Pilates workshop at our studio. They used a buddy system for some exercises. Thomas Gibson attended and was my Pilates partner. He struck me as a nice, regular guy.
Thanks for sharing!
Not me saying they shouldn't have fired Thomas Gibson for what he did, but the show didn't feel the same after Hotch's departure. It just proved the character's strengths.
One thing about Mandy Patinkin is that when he's done, he's done. He didn't like Dead Like Me, left for Criminal Minds, and disappointed the entire fanbase (A pity. I fucking loved that show). Then, he didn't like Criminal Minds either. I guess Homeland wasn't as dark as Criminal Minds, because he stayed there for the entire duration of the show.
"Well he should have read the pilot a little closer"
Nice burn Joe. Lol
They need to bring back Thomas Gibson. The show hasn't been the same since he's left.
The show has never been the same since Hotch left. He was the rock of the show 😞
The Original Criminal Minds had this great chemistry that they couldn't replicate on the other series. But Suspect Behavior actually grew on me
Now we can just hope that we can see Reid’s face in the new criminal minds season
There’s been rumblings that Matthew Grubler will show up. He’s playing coy for now 😅
@@LucyLioness100 I thought he played Reid, I hope this new character coy is as good as Reid.
I genuikeley loved Jennifer Love Hewitt on the show. I loved them all. And her season is my favorite season. The story throughout the whole season was great in my opinion.
I always thought the decision makers on this show didn’t seem to know their audience.
Aaron hatchner is the last person i expected to have anger management issues xD
I'm still on season 10...and...knowing that Hotch and Morgan will eventually leave...I'm contemplating on not finishing the series..😢😢😭
Don’t bother with seasons 14 and 15, so bad
Save you time and switch to the Sopranos. 😂
We appreciate your content. Keep up the good work.
The golden cast was Hotch, Rossi, Reid, Morgan, JJ, Prentiss and Garcia and no one will ever be able to change my mind 😌😌
"She's alive? We buried her" okey Pretty Little Liars
I think the worst thing that happened was screwing with a great cast when you finally had a Winner - JJ, Hotch, Reid, Prentiss, Morgan, Garcia and Rossi were Synergistic ... they were the show!
I love Criminal Minds! Im rewatching from the start and am up to series 10. Class writing & acting.
Okay so everyone knows that the best reason to watch Criminal Minds is the adorable computer lady, I forget her name but I'd make a Dante style run into hell and jaw jack the devil for her.
Penelope Garcia played by Kirsten Vangsness
They've tried to kill Penelope off a couple of times but the fans absolutely will not let them. If Penelope goes, the show is over.
I love your passion for her despite not remembering her name 😂❤ she is iconic
Btw-a great episode featuring Garcia’s origins at the BAU is called The Black Queen. Can’t remember which season though. You know, Penelope gave Hotch a resume on pink paper? Handwritten, at that?
Penelope Garcis
Its crazy that they replaced jj and prentiss for "not being young and attractive enough."
Im watching the show start to finish as a 24 year old rn and while its not the most respectful way to describe these very talented women, they are still so stupidly hot at their time of firing and are still attractive older women now
I remember when she came back. I was like are you effing serious I cried when she was “killed off”
To me, Aaron Hotchner was the face of the Criminal Minds. When Hotch left, my heart left, too. It was like Dumbledoor dying in Harry Potter. They should not just fire him like that. He deserves a lot more better treatment than that. And why did Morgan left the show? Anybody?
How was there a real petition for Kate to be taken out of the show?! She was one of the best characters!
Agree!!
I don't think she was one of the best, but she didn't deserve hate at all
She was awful. She didn't fit with the team at all, and they spent too much time forcing her entire family story on us.
I loved Jennifer on the show!!
Yes, the xenophobia in Beyond Borders was cringy. It really wasn't representative of the others countries at all.
Especially in the pitch at the beginning of each episode stating something like "the safety of our borders". Lol!
So Mandy left CM and goes directly to HOMELAND?!
It was as dark.
Hotch was the best
So wait Mandy patinkin left cause the storylines were dark and graphic. But then he went to do homeland.
I really missed Hotch after he left...i would hear the intro and jist feel the loss of knowing he wasnt going to leas the team
Thomas Gibson gave an interview where he claimed he crossed his legs and his foot nudged the producer. But it was presented that he hauled off and kicked him like a toddler.
I loved Hodge. I feel like this show just got rid of people easily. My favorite team is Hodge, Rossi, Reid, Prentice, JJ, Morgan and Penelope
Hotch needs to come back
I know some of these scandals especially with CM: Beyond Borders (watched the entire season: my opinion - very weak plots and doesn’t match up to the original run) and Thomas Gibson as Aaron Hotchner leaving (I heard that he’s quite notorious to work with so I’m not surprised that they let him go).
I really loved this show since I have always dreamed of being a criminal profiler
I understand why Gibson was fired, but the show was just nit the same without Hotch.
I'm still so annoyed that Thomas Gibson managed to essentially write such a good character character out of the show through his own behaviour.
Gibbson was standing up for the female crew when he kicked the guy
I got sad when Gideon left but then i met Rossi ❤i was fine🔥🔥🙌💯💯😍😍😍
Ok, I’ll rewatch Criminal Minds again
I remember when Thomas got fired, Shemar posted a video about 'karma'. Apparently they did not get along on set, and allegedly was one of the reasons Shemar left the show.🤷♂️
Shemar was constantly late and that made Thomas mad because everyone else managed to make it to work on time.
Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders was the only Criminal Minds series to feature two former CSI actors as main characters. Gary Sinise previously appeared on CSI: NY as Mac Taylor and Alana de La Garza previously appeared on CSI: Miami as Marisol Delko, later Marisol Delko-Caine. In the original Criminal Minds series there was only 1 and that was Adam Rodriquez who played the role of Eric Delko in CSI: Miami.
I never understood the hate for Jennifer Love Hewitt. I actually liked her character and really wanted her to stay on. I watched Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum where he interviewed her and she said that she took time off from acting after leaving Criminal Minds. I was shocked that Thomas Gibson was fired but understood why and Mandy Patinkin, I never understood because he went from Criminal Minds to Homeland, a show about terrorists. That never made sense to me.
Mandy Patinkin is just such a great guy, that doesn't surprise me that it affected him so much.
I find it amusing that the stoic Hotch character was played by an actor fired for violent outbursts! Hotch would never!
He played a similarly unemotional lawyer in the series Dharma & Greg.
Never understood the problem with Hewitt's character. I liked her a lot, I thought she was a good addition to the team. She had a light vibe that brought some confort to the team... especially in the season she entered, where there were so many dark things going on. Such a shame to see people basically chased her out. Also, when JJ and Prentiss left I was so pissed. I watched the season just to see if they would be back, it felt so weird that they would remove such major characters out of the show like that. So glad they came back, and JJ became such a badass.
Its kinda sad that some actors had to go because of some fans being angry. I liked all of them.
Thank For The Video 🙊🤯🥰💕😍👍💞💗
Feel bad for the actors who fans disliked
The minute Hotch was gone, I stopped watching.
I have the impression the network took a long time to realize who their public were?! Like they really believed it was a majority male audience, when actually is more female, especially younger women (I'm not saying the show didn't have male fans, I'm just saying is not the huge majority as they seemed to believe.) And so they didn't realized how AJ and Padget were important and how much they'd be missed because women generally get really more attached to characters like these.
I do however think the fandom was very unfair and rude to Rachel Nichols, she wasn't the one firing AJ Cook, she didn't accept a role to replace anyone, it's not her fault that those exects thought that and the way nobody bother to tell her she was fired untill s7 started production and she simply wasn't invited was so rude. She found out her character wasn't coming back via twitter, that's so horrible.
Getting rid of Hotch killed the show
Thanks for that info.📰
Honestly Hotch was the best. Even Gideon i really liked.
Mandy leaving was regrettable because of how well he portrayed his character, but I understand how living in darkness, even a fictional darkness can wear down someone's soul.
As if the terrible acts alone weren't enough, Criminal Minds delved deeper into each unsub's psyche as the main method of catching them. The twisted logic that many of the criminals would follow, no matter how absurd it is to a "normal" person, made sense when looking at the wider picture, and you could connect the dots, often being a representation of their descent into their madness.
Like growing up with an abusive mother, only to later target victims that were reminiscent of her, and seeing the lines blur between the unsub's past and the victim's present, with the kill triggering a sort of cathartic release of closing the chapter of their nightmarish childhood. Only for the dreams of past abuses to return, triggering a need to find another victim and another release.
It was often simultaneously astounding and horrifying to realize how human these unsubs often were, and how easily given similar circumstances, the viewer could have turned out like them.
As a viewer, we just sit back and suspend disbelief as we watch a show. As an actor in the show, you develop an understanding about your character and all the characters you interact with. There's the core being of you that gets exposed to all these other elements, like a flagpole in harsh and bitter winds. It's not so bad when you're in a rom com or something, but when you're dealing with such dark material about the human psyche, realizing that these various "evil" characters are human underneath, sort of reflecting versions of yourself that could have been you if your life had gone differently, is a difficult concept to come to terms with. It's hard to dismiss it as a mere acting gig or an overreaction because it's fake, fiction, when you can see yourself in the unsub's shoes and realize you could face the same mental break they did and envision yourself committing the same atrocious acts as a result. And it's made even worse when you have quality actors portraying these villains because it drives the point home even harder.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
HE GOT CATFISHED????
I loved Blake. I wanted her to stay on the show.
I heard that the whole reason behind thomas kicking the writer was being he was being gross to AJ and the other women on set. Not sure if it was true bjt if it is, we want thomas back :(
apparently the writer hotchs actor kicked was weird around women on set so tbh not a care is given by me for that writer
Not single woman came out with story. Not even any gossip, it came out only once when hotch was removed and never before that or afterwards.
after most of the og cast left criminal minds became a joke
AJ Cook and Paget Brewster were FIRED?!?! Because of their age?!?
I actually quit watching Criminal Minds at around the same time that Mandy Patinkin did. I found it to be too disturbing and it caused me to have nightmares. About a year later I read an article in which Mandy Patinkin stated that he found it disturbing.
Great video!