Where was the counterpoint in this discussion? The consensus seemed to be that Hamas is bad, there is a lack of criticism in the Arab world of October 7. I greatly appreciate hearing local voices on this debate but l a little disappointed it largely parrots views found in mainstream western media. Nevertheless I will tune in for the next episode (for what my viewership is worth). Thanks
the issue with prof. Bashar's point around min. 32 on the question of double standards: the state of Israel as a concept was imposed on the Arab world by the Zionist project and the West (through colonialism and later on through unchallenged financial, political and military support). Israel is an intruder among the indigenous people of the east med and middle east. one cannot compare criticism for Israel with criticism for Syrians and Palestinians. what happened in Yarmouk belongs to the people living in this area and for them to solve it among each other. what happens with Israel is a full-fledged militarized presence that is supported by the totality of the western world and which amounts to literal bullying.
I think people (not just the West) have the habit of being more empathetic towards people that they can easily relate too and are more like themselves. I don't think it's a conscious decision but an unconscious bias. Hence westerners are more empathetic towards Ukraine than Somalia or Yemen. I don't think this is unique to the West.
I think that it is more related to culture and integration. A lot of refugees (not all of them, but significant and very visible number) do not behave like westerners and do not want to accept western values.
We must make it illegal for politicians to make extra money from lobby n corporations on top of salary..... how do we stop corruption ... this is the GAZA problem with US Congress n EU diplomats
I cannot understand why people are repeating the narrative of ethnic cleansing. It is really easy to look for numbers - the data clearly shows that it was jews ethnically cleansed in arab countries, while arab population grows both inside and outside of israel. And regarding the destruction of gaza - just think that it is a massive underground military base with civilian city built on top of it. Israel from the very beginning said that it's goal is to destroy the military capability of hamas, and that is exactly what it is doing, as far as I can see.
It seems you don't have any idea about israeli genocide on yeminite children and bombing of baghdad. Committing a genocide in 1948 doesn't help your argument though.
By the way, do you have a proof that there is tunnels under hospitals or any building in gaza, please don't refer me to "there is a list" guy, i got tired hearing him.
@@laithmughrabi8990 I saw a number of videos showing such tunnels and read articles from journalists who were there. Even amnesty international were reported that hospitals are used by hamas for torture and interrogation.
@@laithmughrabi8990 There are a number of videos and articles from journalists who were in those tunnels. Even amnesty reported about them long before this conflict.
Where was the counterpoint in this discussion? The consensus seemed to be that Hamas is bad, there is a lack of criticism in the Arab world of October 7. I greatly appreciate hearing local voices on this debate but l a little disappointed it largely parrots views found in mainstream western media. Nevertheless I will tune in for the next episode (for what my viewership is worth). Thanks
the issue with prof. Bashar's point around min. 32 on the question of double standards: the state of Israel as a concept was imposed on the Arab world by the Zionist project and the West (through colonialism and later on through unchallenged financial, political and military support). Israel is an intruder among the indigenous people of the east med and middle east. one cannot compare criticism for Israel with criticism for Syrians and Palestinians. what happened in Yarmouk belongs to the people living in this area and for them to solve it among each other. what happens with Israel is a full-fledged militarized presence that is supported by the totality of the western world and which amounts to literal bullying.
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I think people (not just the West) have the habit of being more empathetic towards people that they can easily relate too and are more like themselves. I don't think it's a conscious decision but an unconscious bias. Hence westerners are more empathetic towards Ukraine than Somalia or Yemen. I don't think this is unique to the West.
I think that it is more related to culture and integration. A lot of refugees (not all of them, but significant and very visible number) do not behave like westerners and do not want to accept western values.
We must make it illegal for politicians to make extra money from lobby n corporations on top of salary..... how do we stop corruption ... this is the GAZA problem with US Congress n EU diplomats
So this guy starts talking about Syria . Whataboutism from another genocide excuser
the numbers do not support the genocide narrative. Especially if you search for such accusations prior to 7th october.
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I cannot understand why people are repeating the narrative of ethnic cleansing. It is really easy to look for numbers - the data clearly shows that it was jews ethnically cleansed in arab countries, while arab population grows both inside and outside of israel.
And regarding the destruction of gaza - just think that it is a massive underground military base with civilian city built on top of it. Israel from the very beginning said that it's goal is to destroy the military capability of hamas, and that is exactly what it is doing, as far as I can see.
It seems you don't have any idea about israeli genocide on yeminite children and bombing of baghdad.
Committing a genocide in 1948 doesn't help your argument though.
By the way, do you have a proof that there is tunnels under hospitals or any building in gaza, please don't refer me to "there is a list" guy, i got tired hearing him.
@@laithmughrabi8990 I saw a number of videos showing such tunnels and read articles from journalists who were there. Even amnesty international were reported that hospitals are used by hamas for torture and interrogation.
@@laithmughrabi8990I do not understand your point. You think that israel is stealing palestinian children or what?
@@laithmughrabi8990 There are a number of videos and articles from journalists who were in those tunnels. Even amnesty reported about them long before this conflict.