New Harley Boom Box GTS Conversion-How to Retrofit & Upgrade
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- As of November 2019, Harley-Davidson made it possible to upgrade your older system to the new 2019 Boom Box GTS on those 2014-2018 touring models. Visiting Harley's website, it seems they are marketing and describing this conversion kit more towards upgrading from the smaller 4.3 non-touchscreen unit to the new GTS unit, but you can upgrade from either the smaller 4.3 unit or the larger 6.5 GT unit. We tell you and show you everything you need to know if you're considering this upgrade. No need to pay a dealership to do this. We've got your back.
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Thanks Ryan. Just did this to my 2017 RGS. I'm very happy with the new Boom GTS since it is fully integrated. It is a little pricey but still cheaper than a new bike. Oh also to replace the switch cap, I only removed the two T25 screws on the switch cover and not the perch bolts.
If you buy the GTS radio from the HD catalog, (brand new) you don’t need the harness from SoundZ customs, but if you buy the 2019-2020 radio used, meaning taken out of a bike, you will need that harness to work in a 14-18 bike.
This is the comment I was looking for
Any other differences / functions between the new gts for the 14 to 18 and a gts that’s pulled out of a 19-20 ? That would make it better to buy one from Haley?
Why no adapter? Bought from Harley, adapter bought from a bike coming out of a used Harley?
Asked my local dealership to meet or beat Utah Harley website, and they did. Had them do the install so they can flash it while the bike was there. Works perfectly. Great video, keep up the great work
do you have an iphone and are you having the problem with it ?
epicmoviescores,
Yes. iPhone X. Works flawlessly
These how-to videos are why I have been a subscriber to the channel for years now. I have purchased your heated grip install video and another one on installing an amp. Both were worth every penny. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
Ryan
I would like to thank you and your brothers for all the great tutorials that you put out. I have a 2019 Street glide standard with the 4.3 screen. For Christmas I received a new GTS and WHIM unit. With your videos I was able to install both without issue in less than two hours. Your work is greatly appreciated. Hope you and all involved with your channel have a wonderful new year!
I upgraded my 2018 limited with no regrets... big difference. Great video as always!
Did you get yours from Harley also?
@@Neosconcept yes, on a Black Friday sale for around $1500.
@@jpjcm12583 cool yea just ot mine for 1500 online from HD dealer sale with coupon and sold my old one today for 400 so not too bad out of pocket
Right on! TY
Good to know that I can replace the 6.5 should it ever die. Until then, it does everything I need it to do. Thanks for taking the time to produce this video Ryan.
U betcha
Well sir, I finally got my GTS unit. I spent about a year deciding. In the meantime I watched this video repeatedly. “Pulled the trigger”. An amazing video here. It is very informative. The install went smoothly and quickly. The flash of the radio didn’t go so smoothly. It ended up with DAB, buttons switched on the hand controls, no WHIM or CB enabled. The Harley tech was really nice and we worked through the flash (actually using your paid video on the GTS). The only bummer was that Apple CarPlay work without a helmet prior to flash. The tech installed a firmware update while flashing the radio. According to them (after the fact) Apple CarPlay will only work now with a microphone connected (wireless or wire).
Correct. Software updates force you to only use HD stamped headsets with mics to get Apple Car Play to work.
I was told you need a special wiring harness for this and the only place to get it was a shop in Florida for like $250. You probably just save a lot of people a lot of unnecessary spending. Thank you!
U betcha!! That's what we try to do.
Yeah soundz was selling a harness for like 700 or more dollars
@@qf76mnd15 Yah, they were at the onset. Then Harley came out with the ability to upgrade.
Wow, the video is awesome, I was a little upset about the upgrades they did to the 19's shortly after I bought my 18, but this upgrade I think looks really easy, 😉😉😉. You guys do awesome work for the biker community, cheers.
Right on! Just trying to help as many bikers as we can worldwide!!
NO ADAPTER!!!! AWESOME 👏🏼. Been waiting to see if this could be done. Thank you
Well done, Ryan. Don't know if I'll pull the trigger on the expense, but if I do, your video will be in my garage with me.
Soo, if I find a Take Off radio, and not buy the kit from Harley, will I need an additional harness? Will the info switch still work as a BACK button? Have you done a tutorial on this yet? Thanks!
A+ I'm still thinking about replacing mine with the new. Your video certainly helps with my decision for sure. I was wondering about my xm radio part, and boom, you mentioned it. I actually do like my current infotainment, so we'll see. Very detailed...thank you Sir.
Glad I could help!
Another awesome video brought to you by Ryan Urlacher, The Law Abiding Biker (with the emphasis on "The"). Thanks, Ryan!
Thanks for the shout out Stephen!
Thanks Ryan Not sure if I'm going to do this but its nice to see it done on my bike.
If you have the boombox GT definitely check eBay before throwing it away. It looks like they sell for between $400 and $600.
I swapped the 4.3 on my 14 out for a GTS , the USB from the 4.3 works with the GTS as well .
When it comes to USB, recognize that it is not A to A, or A toB, it can be a type C on both ends with two 4 dollar adapters from Amazon.
Hey Ryan, great video as usual. Would you be up for a Interview with myself and a few other bikers on my Livestream, usual style, questions, advice etc? Would be great to have you on the show. Cheers mate. ✌️
Thanks, Ryan. Retired Deputy Chief in Las Vegas. Thanks for your videos. MM
Very welcome! Lucky dog!! Retired!! Enjoy
@@RyanUrlacher Copy that! Be safe out there!
Please do a video on how to install at 65" flat screen tv on my Fat Boy - and include a home theater surround-sound speaker set-up.
Do you want a popcorn holder and drink holder? LOL~~ Oh, we do have a drink holder for you here ===> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/ciro-3d-drink-holders
@@RyanUrlacher Not interested. Anywho, I always have a fifth of Fireball in my vest, next to my Glocks. Are you going to do an install of the refrigerated saddle bags?
Awesome video, you guys make it look easy.👍🏻
I hope so. You can do it!!
Great video. I have a 2017 road glide and just purchased a new take off unit from a 22 Road Glide. It does not come with the black gps adapter or hand control switch. Will I need any of that? Thanks Ryan
$1,800 geez. I think I’ll keep my old one on the 2014 CVO Ultra until it fails.
Yep, If I absolutely had to have the new GTS, thats steep enough to justify trading the bike, ha!
But in all fairness, when I was looking to upgrade my SYNC system on my F150 (basically same technology), it was quite a bit more. Also, the Sony aftermarket systems being used on HDs are pretty pricey too and they aren't 100% compatible.
@@sboy1955 The Sony aftermarket systems for HD are pricey too? A complete Plug and Play kit for the XAV-AX5000 is $400 and XAV-AX7000 is $600... how is that pricey, at least compared to the $1,800 HD wants to the GTS? I'm not sure if you have priced out aftermarket double DIN systems in general with AA and CarPlay but $400 is pretty close to the low end of the price range, with name brands at least.
Here are some Sony kits... fatheadcycles.com/collections/harley-davidson-audio
But you are right about loosing functionality with the Sony systems... the big one is not being able to navigate the system with the right handlebar joystick, instead the right joystick just mimics what the left does. I would have put the XAV-AX7000 system in my 18 RGS by now if it wasn't for this limitation.
The cons of the Sony XAV-AX 7000 Harley Boom Box Replacement:
The Sony XAV-AX7000 is not a marine-grade like the Boom Box system is. So, you'd need to be careful if riding in heavy rains and when washing your Harley. Additionally, you won't see your EITMS on/off-screen or oil pressure like on the Boom Box. You'll also only get limited functionality with the use of your control toggles.
The XAV-AX7000 has a microphone included with a wire that you normally route inside a quiet car. Using this microphone for voice commands or phone calls with the wind and noise would be less than practical on a motorcycle.
The XAV-AX7000 only has a handsfree profile "HFP" and not a headset profile "HSP". That means you cannot pair a wireless Bluetooth headset directly with the unit, but you can pair your smartphone with it because of the HFP profile. This is similar to the Boom Box system but you can add the additional wireless headset interface module "WHIM" to get the HSP profile. There is no ad-on for the Sony unit to get the HSP profile.
So, you'll need to pair your wireless Bluetooth headset directly with your smartphone and then have your smartphone plugged in via the USB port to use Apple Car Play or Android Auto. You can then give commands to your phone which will then bring things up on the Sony unit.
Further, because the unit lacks the HSP profile, you'll lose your Harley intercom functionality and it's not CB radio compatible.
Remember, that the Sony XAV7000 unit was made for a car and that's why you need to buy a kit or bundle of things to make this conversion possible. There are companies around that sell the bundle.
Obviously, the Sony XAV-AX7000 is a much cheaper option than the Boom Box GTS if you don't care about the above-mentioned items and limitations.
Jeff Martinson - Yep, they are less but it's hard to compare dollars because in terms of functionality they aren't comparable (e.g., switch gear, weather proofing, comm, navigation?). Ryan brings out some comparison points above and this video on the GTS install shows this is an easy swap requiring nothing but the unit.
@@sboy1955 I just would have not used the word pricey in your original post then, I would have used the word value instead.
Because for some people who do not use a lot of these functions that you lose they see a lot of value in the Sony. A lot of people don't use a WHIM and I know people who rarely use handlebar controls. And then there's people who value sound quality Above All Else and the Sony beats the GTS in this area.
But for you, and for me too, losing this much functionality to save that much money doesn't provide a lot of value.
Yes you need the usb cable for the 4.3
Hey Ryan great stuff as always. Is there a Version for Europe as well? Regards from Switzerland
As Always GREAT video Ryan
Buddy had his 6.5GT swapped for a GTS. Independent shop did the swap and claimed that the SiriusXM module from his old 6.5GT wouldn't work in the GTS. After watching this and looking around the Internet forums and learning that it should indeed work we pulled the card out of his old 6.5GT and installed it in the new GTS. So far the GTS hasn't recognized the card. I know when we installed the cards in several of our 6.5GT's over the years a flash was not required. Does the GTS need to be flashed to get the SiriusXM card up and running? Our dealer here in Omaha, NE refuses to flash the GTS to activate the "old" SiriusXM module claiming that since the MC says it requires the new part number that must be gospel.
Very well done Ryan (as always). Stay safe brother!
Thanks! Will do!
Seems easy enough, in the future can you do the same video but for the Road Glide. I have a 15' FLTRXS with Siruis XM and wouldn't mind having the upgraded radio. Would it be any different if you have the Boom Box audio stage II radio for the fairing and lowers?
No different for that setup. We do have a fairing removal video for RG ==> ua-cam.com/video/BvwSsWefj9A/v-deo.html
2 comments,
First you absolutely need the new usb cable. The new cable has a larger wire guage in order to support the needed 2.1A required for Carplay and android auto. Without the new cable you will have instability issues.
Second, the SXM module has been updated to a new part number from Sirius. While yes the audio will function, the module is not officially supported.
We've had ZERO issues and running it daily. All works perfectly. Certainly, run new ones if you like. That's why we mentioned it. Thanks for watching and for the input.
Joe Greenwood, I have a question. I installed the new GTS on my 18 Limited and didn't replace the original USB cable, only because it was unavailable. I don't have any issues, except for a noticeable voice delay when making a phone call using the Harley Boom Audio 20s through the GTS with CarPlay. Is this due to not having a 2.1A USB cable?
@@RyanUrlacher instability would likely be noticed if using a low battery, where the system would be trying to provide the full 2.1A to the device for quick charging. If you never have a low battery then you might not see the issues
@@jpjcm12583 hmm I haven't heard of that one and it shouldn't be effected by that. The usb cable mainly causes issues with high charging current and connection problems when the phone is first plugged in.
@@jpjcm12583 No, that would not be a cable issue at all.
Hi Ryan, love the video. Because of the ease this video showed, I bought a used GTS and installed it in my 2016 Ultra Limited.
My question is, where can I buy the right turn signal button with the return icon on it?
I can’t find it anywhere!
I just bought a used one out of a 2019 street glide So my question to you is what did the dealer have to do to get it to work. What year bike did you get your used one from ?
@@kamakazeekid2002
I actually took my bike to Hardcore Cycles in Jacksonville and they temporarily installed a newer ECM on my bike to update the software on the GTS radio, and then it worked. I also had them flash a few changes.
The GTS radio I bought used, came from a 2020 Road Glide.
Wow, cool and spiffy-neat! Thx for the vid. I might do this. My wife has a _thing_ for you. ;)
Rock on! 😂
Always great videos with great content! Keep up the good work Ryan.
a few corrections... the USB cable is required... if you don't replace it, Android Auto will not function. The part number given is not found in the retail catalog - it is the part number for the stock cable on 19-20 bikes. Also, the XM needs to be changed as well. Electrically it may work - but the gts radios are coming from the factory with different part numbers, so i would assume there is SOMETHING different...
We disagree with you as we are actually testing this. This very bike in this video has the original USB cable and we DID NOT replace it. The rider updated and has Android Auto now on this GTS unit. Android Auto is working fine and we have pictures. He's using it daily. The old XM module is fine too and working perfectly. Hope this helps.
You do NOT need to replace your Sirius XM unit. The old one from the 6.5 GT worked perfectly. If you feel the need to spend $400 for a new part number, go for it, but you do not need to.
Ok great video but need some clairification, a friend bought and installed the Soundz harness with a brand new GTS last year but recently installed a WHIM and was able to remove the Soundz harness. According to him via the HD service tech you either have to have the aftermarket harness or the WHIM either way several hundred $$$$ in addition to the GTS. Is this true?
Do you need a WHIM using Sena branded 20s?
Thanks always for your amazing content, much appreciated!
Hey Ryan,
Great video as per usual. My 6.5 just started sound dropping out. Any fix ideas?
I have xm in my truck and would love having it on my 15' Limited. I haven't found much info.
Right on. Easy to do. We show you in this video.
How much did HD charge for the flash ?
I have a 4.3 on my road glide. It DOES have a USB cable. I'm not sure if its the same as the one "required" or not. Just wanted to throw that out there
GTS is a good upgrade, I see you put in Hog Tunes, those are junk speakers... I hope you got them for free.
Ryan, been coming up to speed on your channel, great content! I want to put the GTS BOOM BOX, latest 2019 version, in my 2020 FLHTP with RDRS. I want to buy one of your videos that show this install, to include the install and any programming or inter face module that may be required to have the new lighted switch packs to be programmed as necessary to operate the HD 6.5 GTS. Checking can you point me to a video you may have on this? Any other options? Thank you.
I see you had a Hogtunes Amp and speakers will all that change over just fine on a 2014
Yup. Just make sure it's gets flashed right and setup for your speaker and amp system.
I put the GTS in my '16 Street Glide special.. now the sound volume sucks.. no amp with the original radio and I could hear it going 80, now can barely hear it.. adjusted all the volumes and speed up volume... Also on the new info screen is says EITMS is disabled. I can roll the throttle up and turn it on ( I get the green flash on dash) but system still says disabled. It does seem to engage when hot, but info screen constantly shows disabled... Has anyone else had these issues? Had it flashed at my dealer, how to go back to flash because they forgot the whim part of the flash... could there be other settings that my dealer doesn't know, that they obviously don't tell us either?? Thanks for the help and great videos!
Great vid. Just want to confirm, that it is ok to install and then drive to H-D for the flash??
Yes, you're fine
Thinking of doing this upgrade on my 2016 CVO Limited. My current MAP subscription for free updates expires in May 2027. Do I lose that with the new radio?
I am liking those torx wrenches . Which do you recommend. ? As you guys notice what tools are worth the money .
A few of the tools we use. Some emergency too ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/tools
Otherwise, mostly Craftsman tools in our box.
Question. I have the upgraded speakers and 2 amps from harley on my 2016 Ultra Limited. I also have intercom and CB radio on my Ultra. Will the GTXS work with those?
Yup
I have a 2016 flhtk and upgraded to the GTS from the 6.5 GT... no issues(have dealership enable CB and Nav on head unit.
@@RyanUrlacher thx. Retired Chgo PD here. Stay safe!
Ryan, do you know if on the 2015 it doesn’t have TPMS. Does that page show with no pressure reading or doesn’t display that screen at all?
No pressure reading I believe
Ryan, I used your videos to help set up the Sena FreeWire and SRL built into my Shoei Neotec II and it works great, thank you. Will my Sena set up work with the new GTS if I upgrade? I have a 2017 Road Glide Ultra. Thanks!
It's works the same. Remember, it's not the Boom Box units doing any of the Bluetooth connectivity really. It's the ad on Wireless Interface Headset Module (WHIM) doing that. The same WHIM you have works on the newer GTS unit.
Great Video as always. I note you did not use Locktite on any of the bolts so I am presuming there is no need however I generally locktite most bolts on my HD's and especially where its hard to get to. Your thoughts. This unit in Australia is about A$3K so wont be purchasing it until current 2018 unit fails. BTW if you are interested in having a look at some ride videos from both Australia and Thailand have a peak at Glav's World
Liberal amounts of loctite were used later.
Will this procedure be the same for a 2014 Ultra Limited CVO bike?
I haven’t seen anything posted about will the HOG tunes amp and 2 speaker kit on a 6.5 Work with the new GTS ? It’s frustrating that it looks like Harley doesn’t have the ride planner for the 6.5 gps anymore
I got a 2014 and tried this gts from my 2019 . I turn it on . The screen said , it is not compatible with my vehicle . What 😢 to do next ?
I am looking to switch out the screen protector I got the kit but it’s to small (saver)
As soon as the virus thing is over I'm going to my nearby Harley dealership, I'm looking at a 2016 tri-glide . Is there any information I should know before handing my money over ?
Is it possible to put one of these or the 6.5 in an older fairing, pre 2000 flhtcu. I'm guessing it's tied onto the newer bikes computer
Now hypothetically if I have a 2021 Electra glide standard and I bought the paper weight with the four soft buttons would I need to do anything special for the install
Our understanding is you would need to purchase the wiring harness and proper control switches. Check out Fat Head Cycles. They make what you need.
Sense you are removing the info button how do you get the air temp and the other information that comes up?
Hey Ryan great videos! What are those gold brackets the speakers are mounted to?
Those are made by Biketronics.
Hi Ryan I have talked to 3 different dealers about up date on my maps / gps most of them will not do it . Some say it doesn’t work what are your thoughts on this . I know you have to pay Harley $150 for update but everyone said it’s a pain in the ass why does Harley make it so hard. Who do they use for gps google, Garmin .
Please let me know your thoughts on this thanks again Ryan
Does the waze app work on this new upgrade
Question: I currently have 2016 street glide 4.3 boom box, I came up on a 6.5gt off a 2018, is it just a direct swap?
Is the new GTS fully compatible with WHIM and all the features using the EVO 20s harly branded headsets? Radio is $2100 now.....Thanks, COVID
Yes, it is.
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Ryan Urlacher This is so timely. If I don’t care about the oil pressure and EITMS system (I can access those with my V&H FP3 if needed), would you recommend the Sony 7000? I don’t ride in the rain much but there are times where it could happen. Does the Sony have any protection at all? I do occasionally wash my bike but always try to use a little water as possible. I don’t want to get the Sony and kill it the first time I ride in a quick rain storm or splash it from the hose while washing. Any thoughts on real risk here?
The cons of the Sony XAV-AX 7000 Harley Boom Box Replacement:
The Sony XAV-AX7000 is not a marine-grade like the Boom Box system is. So, you'd need to be careful if riding in heavy rains and when washing your Harley. Additionally, you won't see your EITMS on/off-screen or oil pressure like on the Boom Box. You'll also only get limited functionality with the use of your control toggles.
The XAV-AX7000 has a microphone included with a wire that you normally route inside a quiet car. Using this microphone for voice commands or phone calls with the wind and noise would be less than practical on a motorcycle.
The XAV-AX7000 only has a handsfree profile "HFP" and not a headset profile "HSP". That means you cannot pair a wireless Bluetooth headset directly with the unit, but you can pair your smartphone with it because of the HFP profile. This is similar to the Boom Box system but you can add the additional wireless headset interface module "WHIM" to get the HSP profile. There is no ad-on for the Sony unit to get the HSP profile.
So, you'll need to pair your wireless Bluetooth headset directly with your smartphone and then have your smartphone plugged in via the USB port to use Apple Car Play or Android Auto. You can then give commands to your phone which will then bring things up on the Sony unit.
Further, because the unit lacks the HSP profile, you'll lose your Harley intercom functionality and it's not CB radio compatible.
Remember, that the Sony XAV7000 unit was made for a car and that's why you need to buy a kit or bundle of things to make this conversion possible. There are companies around that sell the bundle.
Obviously, the Sony XAV-AX7000 is a much cheaper option than the Boom Box GTS if you don't care about the above-mentioned items and limitations.
Interesting. I thought there was no backward compatibilty when it came out? Then there was an adapter that you had to buy from Soundz. What changed from the MOCO? I'm glad, but why was it announced that it would not work with pre-2019 models?
I'm guessing because a lot of people knew it would be extremely easy for Harley to make the GTS backwards compatible with the 14-18 models since very little changed going to the 19's so Harley received a flood of complaints about the GTS not having this.
Yup, and Harley saw the $$$$$$$$$ signs in selling a new $1800 unit to a bunch of customers and charging them for an install.
I have a 15 SG that I’m trying to put a 19 SG unit in from another bike but after I installed it show on the screen that it was not compatible to see Harley dealership.
Does the GTS upgrade require an interface module addition? Not the USB module?
If you want to run a wireless Harley headset you'll need the WHIM. Wireless Headset Interface Module
did you guy figure out the apply car play and iPhone phone call problem ???
That's all got to be fixed by developers at some point. No hacks to it.
what problem is that ? whats wrong ?
I was hoping it was fixed o well . Someday 🤞
what exactly is the problem >?????? Can someone tell me ?
@@MichaelKantormusic when with a iPhone and when using apple car play ( with either a wired or wireless Harley branded head set ) if you receive an incoming call " theoretically you should be able to answer the call hands free threw the bike and bike controls" well what happens is you can answer the call but the radio won't switch to the head set so it quiet ( this is if your phone is plugged into the bike threw the USB port for charging and apple CarPlay use ) so to be able to answer a call you must first make sure your phone is also blue-toothed to the bike , then when the call comes in you then must unplug the phone wire from your phone and wait a few seconds and the phone will then pair with the radio then you can answer the call and all work as normal , but you won't have CarPlay access till you plug your phone back into its cord again.
that there is the problem the radio won't switch to the head set when CarPlay is in use .
so for it being so long winded .
I just did this upgrade and in my opinion the music isn't nearly as loud as my 6.5 system.. did anyone else experience this?
Wait, didn't Squid curse out the Boom Box on a podcast and plan on installing the Sony? What happened?
He did. LOL. And he folded. And we did another podcast on the XAV 7000. He couldn't live with the limitations.
Ryan - thanks for the great info - do you know - if the whim is still needed if you buy the 19/20 Boom GTS (part #76000829A) for a 2017 Ultra Limited? I would like to pair it with my cardo packtalk bold for GPS prompts/Calls only - I play my music through my bike speakers and amp
Great vid
Here’s a good one for you..... I have the Rockford Fosgate Stage III installed. I had to get the boom gt flashed to set the eq’s flat (at a non HD dealership, because they only flash for their systems now). If I upgrade to the GTS, I would first have to flash the new GTS to the bike at the HD dealership, then head over to my independent bike shop and have it reflashed to flatten the eq? Has anyone done this yet? I notice the aftermarket sound system in the video. Thanks
You just need to have the dealer flash the GTS to your bike. You should not have to do anything to the Rockford Fosgate system. I have the same set up. I got the dealer flash, and BOOM, I was in business!
Hi , does it fit on european model. The kit is not sold in France.
Perhaps I missed it/haven't found it yet. Is there a way for the HD BOOM to pair with the sena mesh system? Have a 2019 Ultra Limited and a shoei with the Sena mesh com.
You'll need a WHIM (Wireless Headset Interface Module) and a HD branded Sena
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@Ryan Urlacher I have been going looking at the Sony XAV systems for awhile now to upgrade my 18 RGS, mainly because maps on my GT suck and I would really like to have Android Auto. But I have yet to do it because of loosing some of the handlebar joystick functionality for navigating the UI... on the RGS this is kind of a big deal for me because the screen is further away to reach so I primarily use the handle bar controls instead of the touch screen.
But now that HD has made the GTS compatible with my bike and Android Auto is coming soon I'm trying to figure out what is the better route now. The 2 issues with the GTS is cost and audio performance... $1,800 is just a crazy amount of money just for a head unit... and the people that have installed the XVA-AX7000 say the Sony sounds way better than factory and is way easier to tune the sound.
Ryan if you happen to know someone with the Sony XVA-AX7000 it would be great to see a comparison between the Sony and the new GTS unit. Pros and cons of both.
Edit: I just seen your response to Sir KingaLing
about this, lots of good info there... it would still be great to see you make a video on this since I'm sure there are a lot of people considering these two options especially because of the cost between the two.
The cons of the Sony XAV-AX 7000 Harley Boom Box Replacement:
The Sony XAV-AX7000 is not a marine-grade like the Boom Box system is. So, you'd need to be careful if riding in heavy rains and when washing your Harley. Additionally, you won't see your EITMS on/off-screen or oil pressure like on the Boom Box. You'll also only get limited functionality with the use of your control toggles.
The XAV-AX7000 has a microphone included with a wire that you normally route inside a quiet car. Using this microphone for voice commands or phone calls with the wind and noise would be less than practical on a motorcycle.
The XAV-AX7000 only has a handsfree profile "HFP" and not a headset profile "HSP". That means you cannot pair a wireless Bluetooth headset directly with the unit, but you can pair your smartphone with it because of the HFP profile. This is similar to the Boom Box system but you can add the additional wireless headset interface module "WHIM" to get the HSP profile. There is no ad-on for the Sony unit to get the HSP profile.
So, you'll need to pair your wireless Bluetooth headset directly with your smartphone and then have your smartphone plugged in via the USB port to use Apple Car Play or Android Auto. You can then give commands to your phone which will then bring things up on the Sony unit.
Further, because the unit lacks the HSP profile, you'll lose your Harley intercom functionality and it's not CB radio compatible.
Remember, that the Sony XAV7000 unit was made for a car and that's why you need to buy a kit or bundle of things to make this conversion possible. There are companies around that sell the bundle.
Obviously, the Sony XAV-AX7000 is a much cheaper option than the Boom Box GTS if you don't care about the above-mentioned items and limitations.
hey ryan! question, can you put the 6.5 boom one (old one) into a 2019 harley? my dad and i are swapping .im getting the gts from him for my 2018 and giving him my 6.5 boom one on his 2019 does that work still ?
I watched and read comments until 5:00 into the video. Does this unit solve the Harley proprietary issues with bluetooth units? If not, I don't see the need to upgrade from my 2017 unit... otherwise known as useless weight on my bike.
Same proprietary Bluetooth headset issue with this new unit.
@@RyanUrlacher Will Harley ever learn?
Did all of you guys need to take your bike down to have the new GTS flashed?? There are guys on UA-cam that didn't have to do that?
You'll need to hve it flashed if it's aa brand new unit.
Hi Ryan
I am currently in the process of having my local dealer upgrade my system on the 2017 Limited. They just called and said the XM unit will not fit and I have to buy a new one for $400. Are they feeding me a line or do you think something has changed recently??
I'm guessing you will loose the oil pressure reading with this upgrade? Yes?
Nope, it still is displayed on head unit.
Thanks for answering that Squid
Ryan, great info as usual. However, you say that the Sirius XM module from my 6.5 WILL WORK in the GTS? This is the first place I have seen or heard this. In fact, Harley has different part numbers for the Satellite radio module for each of these radios. Are you certain that this old one will work in the new radio?? Not questioning you, but I want yo make sure as I was buying a GTS to make the swap this Friday. Thanks Bro...(Retired LEO)
We are absolutely using the XM module we took out of the older 6.5 unit and put in the new GTS. He's using it right now. Will this be the case in the future? I don't know. But it works perfect now.
@@RyanUrlacher Thanks Ryan, I'll give it a shot and let you know if it worked for me. Love your videos. Stay safe Brother...
Their have been zero issues with the old XM module. I have the full XM package to include weather and fuel prices.
@@spidermo443 Thanks man, I'll give it a shot and let you know if there are issues...
Ryan, just wanted to hit you up with an update. I installed the GTS, no problem. The old USB and the old Sirius XM from my 6.5 GT installed and worked perfectly with the GTS. Thank you so much for letting me know that I did NOT have to buy a new Sirius radio for the GTS. Saved me a ton of money! The install was a piece of cake when I followed your video. All I had to do was to take it to the stealership to have it flashed. You do have to make sure the dealer flashes EVERYTHING with the radio; Nav, Sirius, GPS, CB, WHIM, and anything else you may have connected to your bike relating to sound. To give them credit though, my dealer did the flash for FREE!
Bottom line, it is an excellent video. There is absolutely no reason to have someone else install your GTS. It is super simple. I love the new radio with the Apple CarPlay and all the other features. Hey, it's only money....
Thanks again for your outstanding video and continuing support to our community...Stay Safe Brother!
Can you give us an estimate of what it costs to get it flashed at the dealership?
Jeremy Konz about $30-$40 depends on if they charge you or not. Some will and some won’t
We get it for free from our dealership as it should be. Many others around also do it for free. However, Many greedy dealerships are charging for it. $40 roughly.
I brought my Service Manager a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts. The flash was free!
I see on Squid's bike they don't have the speaker pods or is this something that was done when upgrading the sound system?
The brackets are made by Biketronics and allows for the installation of aftermarket 6.5 inch speakers.
Thanks Squid for chiming in on that.
Thanks guys. Not something I'd noticed before
Hey Ryan will the TPMS work. And will the sensor kit fit on a 2016 street glide special
You'd need additional TPMS hardware for that to work. Not sure of fitment on that.
Hey Ryan, would the process be the same on a Street Glide?
exactly the same.
Hey Ryan in your opinion is the upgrade worth the money?
Not really, unless you just have extra cash laying around and want to spend. $1700-$1800 is soooo much money for just a few benefits. If you really want Apple Car Play or Android Auto then I guess you gotta do it.
Ryan Urlacher This is so timely. If I don’t care about the oil pressure and EITMS system (I can access those with my V&H FP3 if needed), would you recommend the Sony 7000? I don’t ride in the rain much but there are times where it could happen. Does the Sony have any protection at all? I do occasionally wash my bike but always try to use a little water as possible. I don’t want to get the Sony and kill it the first time I ride in a quick rain storm or splash it from the hose while washing. Any thoughts on real risk here?
@@trublupennstatefan1438 I've heard that the new Sony 7000 has weather resistant buttons, whatever that means. And I've heard some people have already had the 7000 in some rain and got it wet from washing and have not had any issues. But I would not hit it directly with a hose and avoid heavy rain, although I try to anyways lol... as the 7000 is definitely not Marine Grade like the GTS... the front of the 7000 may be weather resistant but if you look at the back side of the Sony and GTS you can see the Sony is not sealed like the GTS is.
Been waiting on this video since December. What's the difference in the GTS from model to model? I have a 2018 Road glide special with the 6.5 GT and ran across a few deals with the GTS from 2019-20 Street Glide specials that guys replaced with the Sony unit. When I was doing my research alot of "claims" going around that it wouldn't work unless you used the soundz harness retrofit instead of the Harley retrofit. Something about having to marry your bike's Vin a certain GTS model number. Is this true? Can you take any GTS and use it the same way Harley sells their upgrade?
Just need to have it flashed at a dealership after install.
@@RyanUrlacher thanks for this helpful video. How much the Dealership could charge for that flash need it?
Thank you l!!!
What are those speaker brackets that are replacing the pods?
Those are made by Biketonics. allows for the installation of aftermarket 6.5 inch speakers.
I wish I could put this in my 2018 Goldwing. The Honda GPS blows.
Moto Mengy I heard that that Unit is not very good myself . That’s unfortunate on such an awesome bike .
@@roadglide1142 Its true. The HD GPS is much better than the Goldwing's. I mean Honda's is kinda useable, but Harley's is comparable to Garmin's best IMHO.
@@MotoMengy The GPS on my 2017 Ultra Classic doesn't even compare to Google Maps. A total failure in the Oakland/SF Bay area.
I’m not sure why you think the old unit is worthless. You can get $300-500 for your old unit.
My phone doesn't fit inside the compartment on my 19 road glide with or without it plugged in.
We don't put our phones in those compartments. Better to have it perched up on your handlebars for ease. ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/biker-gripper
Add a biker-gripper. My bike has been equipped with the same device for almost 4 years.
I have a 2016 Road Glide that has the boom II system I upgraded to the GTS radio after the install I get no sound or beep coming from the speakers, went to the dealer to get it flashed they can’t figure it out. Put the GT back everything works fine. Any Ideas on what would cause this problem.
Did the dealership select the correct amp setup when flashing your bike? Did you buy a new in box head unit or one out of another bike?
D Barnes brand new from Harley and I installed it. Dealer said he was only reading one amp. At first they told me my amp (s) were fried , then went with you need to replace the boom II harness. I told them that nothing was wrong with either of those and I re-installed the GT radio. Everything on the GTS radio at startup seemed to work, including Bluetooth and apple carplay, dealer flashed for the Nav but nothing else and still no sound.
My name is Frank, so the latest on my GTS install is that the dealer took back the radio and is exchanging it for another. Harley Tech support claims the radio is fine when they hooked up remotely, but they now want me to bring the bike in with the Installed GT radio which works fine so they can figure out why it won’t work with the new GTS radio installed.
You recommend this or the Sony 7000?
The cons of the Sony XAV-AX 7000 Harley Boom Box Replacement:
The Sony XAV-AX7000 is not a marine-grade like the Boom Box system is. So, you'd need to be careful if riding in heavy rains and when washing your Harley. Additionally, you won't see your EITMS on/off-screen or oil pressure like on the Boom Box. You'll also only get limited functionality with the use of your control toggles.
The XAV-AX7000 has a microphone included with a wire that you normally route inside a quiet car. Using this microphone for voice commands or phone calls with the wind and noise would be less than practical on a motorcycle.
The XAV-AX7000 only has a handsfree profile "HFP" and not a headset profile "HSP". That means you cannot pair a wireless Bluetooth headset directly with the unit, but you can pair your smartphone with it because of the HFP profile. This is similar to the Boom Box system but you can add the additional wireless headset interface module "WHIM" to get the HSP profile. There is no ad-on for the Sony unit to get the HSP profile.
So, you'll need to pair your wireless Bluetooth headset directly with your smartphone and then have your smartphone plugged in via the USB port to use Apple Car Play or Android Auto. You can then give commands to your phone which will then bring things up on the Sony unit.
Further, because the unit lacks the HSP profile, you'll lose your Harley intercom functionality and it's not CB radio compatible.
Remember, that the Sony XAV7000 unit was made for a car and that's why you need to buy a kit or bundle of things to make this conversion possible. There are companies around that sell the bundle.
Obviously, the Sony XAV-AX7000 is a much cheaper option than the Boom Box GTS if you don't care about the above-mentioned items and limitations.
I have the Sony 7000 going on mine this week, Im going from the 4.3 screen. The new fairing speakers are also not marine grade. I try to stay out of the rain.
Was t there an amp in the ferring?
Yes, we all have amps and aftermarket systems. www.lawabidingbiker.com/harleyaudiocomparison/
I have since chanced out the single amp to a (2) two amp package. Yes it all fits and I still have WHIM/CB units installed.
must not need new USB cable to go from 4.3 to the GTS because I went from 4.3 to the 6.5 and used same USB cable.
Great info. Thx for sharing!
Sam, I just purchased a 6.5 and am going to upgrade from my 4.3 GTS. I see you used the same USB cable which is great to hear (I plan on doing the same). Did you have any issues with the GPS wire and did you have to have your unit "flashed" at a dealership after you installed it? Any information would be much appreciated! Thank you!
@@matthewdilorenzo6070 if you are buying the unit brand new you will have to have it flashed at the dealer the dealer will download the maps to it.
I had no issues with the GPS antenna that comes with the you buy.
I believe the video mentioned that the radio will make a dinging sound until you have it flashed.
That is 100% correct with going from the 4.3 to the six point 5 radio my unit dinged until I had it flashed but you will not have no Maps until you take it to the dealer if you bought the unit brand new.
I am mechanically inclined. I had no trouble installing the radio it took me less than a hour. Street Glide you unhook the speedometer odometer all that you'll have some codes you'll have to clear but it's easy just follow directions.
Even if you don't clear the code that don't stop the bike from going or anyting.
You're not think of anything else to add on talking text on my phone if you have any questions hit me up there's any typos or weirdness it's from talking text and I'm probably getting a little quick.
Sam Rotolo Thanks so much for the reply! I bought mine used on eBay. Should be here this week. Wonder if it still needs flashed since it’s used.
@@matthewdilorenzo6070 I do not know 100% if it will need to be flashed
Since it is used.
I think I have read that used it does not need to be flashed and it should already have the maps in it. Hopefully they send the GPS antenna? If not I think you can buy it.
Come back in here and let us know if it worked used I'd like to know for sure myself just for knowledge.
Wait til you buy a 2020 CVO. NO SIRIUS/XM. $400 Harley tax to get that.