COP28 Debate | Regenerative Meat vs Plant-Based
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Plant-Based vs Regenerative Meat | COP28 Debate
This conversation is from COP28, when PBN Founder Klaus Mitchell (on the side of plant-based) spoke to Seth J Itzkan from SOIL4CLIMATE (on the side of regenerative meat) about why industrialised animal farming is destructive from an environmental standpoint.
Advocates of regenerative meat (whether they realise it or not) often use it as a halo effect to justify consumption of ALL animal products. This is because regenerative meat is not an accessible option. It is merely a fairytale and a pipe dream. Regenerative meat is also not sustainable or scalable.
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I’m blown away at the fact that people believe veganism is a bad thing 🤦🏻♀️
Former vegan, now a full blown carnivore. You'll figure it out sooner or later
wow cool, so how long were you "vegan"? how long will it take to "figure" it out?@@garry8390
indeed, how ignorant and stuck can you possible be? the animals, the ecology, the pollution and climate depends on it.
@@garry8390If you were vegan you would not eat animals. Veganism is about trying to cause the least harm towards animals, it is not a diet alone.
Other than that your health will detiorate on carnivore. Like a cat or dog your heart, kidneys, joints will stop functioning properly after a few years and you will end up with diabetes on top of your heart propblems. Humans are starchivores, not meat eaters.
@@garry8390
A plant base diet won’t fit absolutely everyone.
Much less a carnivore diet.
The point is that it is sustainable and perfectly safe to recommend to all people based on how well on average the diet holds.
Moreover, this matters not regarding the ethical points the world view sustains, it has practical application considerations, but the moral views stand beyond that.
Major props to the interviewer. I could not take the stress these disingenuous, uninformed people spew. It’s exhausting.
Yep, Klaus did a great job with this one..
Unfortunately I don't think he is uninformed, disingenuous yes.. but he knows he's bull-shitting about land use amongst many other things.
Imagine this guy talking to someone who is uninformed.. they'd probably head off to their nearest 'regenerative' farm to buy some cow flesh thinking they're doing something good 😒
Luckily we got to see him chatting to Klaus and get all stuttery..
The cameraman vegan from birth moment was brilliant 😆
All major DIETITIAN organizations endorse Vegan smh
Most Major DIETITIAN Organizations Worldwide Endorse Vegan 🐥
My son has been vegan since he was 8. He's now 16 and in the national cycling squad. Evidently it isn't hurting him.
Congrats to a healthy lifestyle and healthy vegan diet
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beautiful
This guy thinks you are a criminal.
Impossible. You have to eat animal flesh to survive. It’s got all the good protein and fat ;)
Clearing out MILES AND MILES of land to grow pesticide sponges kills more animals and destroys the soil , pollutes the water ….. 98% of ALL THE GROCERY STORE PRODUCTS are made out of plants !! All the junk food etc … i eat only meat , eggs etc … vegans are polluting the environment with trash to keep all those products …. I could live off of one cow for a year ..
Nothing quite like a person who looks like they would get winded walking up a flight of stairs describing himself as "finely tuned" that resonates the word "genuine".
EXACTLY!! I was thinking to myself, look at the interviewer and look at the man that he's interviewing. Who looks healthier?
Lolol
Did he actually just claim “confirmation bias” while dismissing Klaus’s claims and nonspecifically citing “many studies” that supposedly refute the claims?
He can't be wrong. Just curious, but what are the chances for the research to be biased. At the end, research papers based on both, animal based and plant based diet, environment and health gets defended and published successfully?
Please correct me if I'm missing something here and pardon my ignorance .
Dear Dr. Nagra, you are the MAN! Thanks for all you do!
Fair point. That's a good inference. Thanks @RNG-ts5gn
@@somnathpal6093 You can analyze any study with about a dozen criteria of quality control (one of which is 'risk of bias') to judge if they are high-value. Then, if you have enough studies that stand the test of these criteria, you can collect them in a meta-study for far more insight as well.
Self awareness seems to be lacking in the carnists mind .😂
I haven't eaten animals in 43 years and the last 7 of them, I've been vegan... Actually since cutting out dairy, I don't use inhalers for asthma anymore
Congrats. That’s wonderful news and it’s probably such a relief to get off the inhalers finally. You’re a great role model and should be highly commended 😘💚💚💚😘
Same here, I developed asthma as a young adult after starting to drink coffee. I did not make the connection until I went vegan and the asthma disappeared. For me this proves that dairy is intended for a calf and not a human, which is blatantly obvious if you think about it.
30 years no meat for me. The worst part is watching friends die knowing, it was their diet that killed them.
Wow! That is amazing that it has difference for you! 😊
But are there chances asthma is just a phase? 🤔🫁
@bestosekuro2859 I have since read books by naturopath doctors which confirm that nearly all asthma cases are caused by dairy. When you think about it, drinking the mammalian fluid of another species is the weirdest thing. It's verges on being deviant behavior.
Been vegan since 13, 19 now. Best decision I’ve ever made
When I changed the way I eat to vegan, my type two diabetes reversed.
I don't know what more I could say there really.
That's fantastic!! Congratulations 🤗.
Dairy or red meat worse for a person with diabetes?
@Bieggaoaivi
I am sorry, I do not know, I am not a nutritionist or doctor or Diabetes specialist. I am not giving advice. If anyone wants to start any type of diet change, it is always best to consult their GP/doctor of some kind. Especially if they have any health condition.
I am simply saying when I went vegan my type 2 diabetes reversed itself.
This is obviously not possible for those with type 1. And I don't know about the other types.
Sorry. It also depends, different diabetes specialist and nurses all have different options. And at the moment for years now they have all been saying it is the carbohydrates you need to watch out for as they are the ones that keep your Sugars up. But I have no idea what about being vegan helped. I just know that that in less than two years of being vegan I went from having out of control blood glucose, on insulin, to reversing it. The only change was the diet.
So it may not be the whole vegan diet. It may be something within it. I have no idea.
@cosmic0creepers. MEEEE TOOOOO!!!! I was prediabetic, and my fasting blood sugar dropped back down into the normal range in a month on a whole food plant based diet.
Almost all of the top experts I have been following agree that the consumption of both meat and dairy guarantee the continuation of diabetes/insulin resistance, but that also minimizing or avoiding processed oils is important.(This includes all foods with processed oil in it, like vegan meats, all deep fried foods, almost all commercial salad dressings, etc.) A WFPB no-processed-oil diet has been proven to completely reverse T2 diabetes and even restore the health of T1 diabetics to the point where they can eat fruits and carbs in moderation.
The mental gymnastics meat eaters will go too instead of having the courage to think in a progressive way that is in line with the world today. The rubbish that was coming out of his mouth was unbelievable !
It takes courage and compassion to change,not everyone is capable,as seen here.
Excellent interview, many thanks for calling these people out.
Yeah, so many people think they can just babble on like Rain Man and be totally believable and coherent,
No Animal flesh here for more than 45 years, with firm body, and superb health. Yes, I’m an Animal lover and will always be
Hope it would lead to immortality good luck
Been gluten free vegan for 7 years and no longer crave or tolerate animal products. In fact when I see advertisements of meat products, it makes me repulsed and sad about the slaughtering of animals.
Risk of death from cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, infections, kidney disease, liver disease and lung disease all increase with the amount of meat consumed. - National Cancer Institute
The only diet ever scientifically shown to reverse our leading cause of human death (Cardiovascular Disease kills 33% of humans), with 99.4% success, is a *Whole Food Plant Based* diet. -Esselstyn, journal Family Practice
Esselstyn is a living legend
All major DIETITIAN organizations endorse Vegan.
Not risk. Risk is an prediction informed by a nearly perfect understanding of the environment at hand. No such prediction is possible or measurable in humans. Stop calling it risk.
@@Mallchad if not risk, what would you call it? Association? Correlation?
@@williamtaylor5320 In this case, its usually number of cases of a thing happening, or incidence
If it's about heart disease then it'd be like 12% of recorded people developed heart disease, instad of 10%. This doesn't say anything about the dangerous of anything happening to you as an individual
Klaus is so likable, great advocate against cruelty!
This is painful to listen to. Guy accuses Hans of comfirmation bias while falling victim to it himself like it's a black hole.
Klaus, I apologise for getting your name wrong. I should have done better and I am sorry.
@@omikrondraconis5708 why not edit your original comment? ^^
@@shiv_ring because people have seen it and it doesn't change my lapse and the necessity for an apology.
@@omikrondraconis5708 okay 🤷 i just don't think there's anything wrong with correcting something like a typo
@@shiv_ring 😊 I see what you mean. But this wasn't a typo and it feels weird to pretend I didn't totally forget Klaus's name 😑
It’s interesting how he calls it, confirmation bias, though Claus was able to cite reputable organisations supporting A plant based diet, while his cognitive dissonants enables him to ignore his own confirmation bias, using only the promise that studies exist to support a meat based diet 🙄
Totally. Come arrest me for teaching my kids compassion and keeping them in great health. 😂
Good thing my Son was/is never sick since birth, has limitless energy and sleeps like a Bear in Winter.
Many think he is older cause he talks better than 4 year olds being just 26 months young.
He poops every day more than most adults.
And for some reason everyone engages with him and says how lovely and cute he is. Maybe it is the kind soul and no Death in his Body.
Poop flex 😊
Confirmation bias is _deleterious_ to non-vegans like this guy.
He definitely looks like a finely tuned machine 💪👌
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Finely tuned far quit.
Yeah, "eat like me and you too can no longer be tortured by those dreams of jogging and be on at least 8 different pills by the time you're 50".
😅😂😄!
I have been vegan for two months. I am getting a wider array of nutrients and it is a diet cheaper than a meat-based diet. This regenerative meat industry would make meat even more expensive. Btw, I am vegan for the animals.
What made u change to be vegan
@@MoistVegan it was something I had been gravitating towards for a few years. However, I got to the point where vegetarianism still promoted animal abuse. After watching a lot off UA-cam videos, I had the knowledge to become vegan in a sustainable way.
@@asexualatheist3504 ok.
So hard to listed to this man not answering to you. As usually thanks Klaus for your patience, you are a super star and thanks Plant based news 🙏
An expert pushing for the most inefficient use of resources yet somehow talking about how we will be able to restore lands to their natural habitat? I've heard it all now.
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You don't realize animals are a part of the lifecycle that makes plants ecosystems viable?
@@Mallchad 80 billion animals we breed and murder annually never see the light of day. They're not part of any ecosystems. Now go vegan.
“The camara guy has been vegan from birth” his face was priceless😂
The meat and milk from animals that rely solely on grazing ("regenerative") provide just 1% of the world’s protein. FCRN
If everyone in the US switched from grain-fed to pasture-fed beef, because they grow more slowly on grass, the number of cattle would have to rise by 30% and the land area used to feed them would rise by 270%. - Environmental Research Let.
Even if the US felled all its forests, drained its wetlands, watered its deserts and annulled its national parks, it would still need to import most of its beef.
Grass-fed cows’ diets contain more cellulose fibre compared to grain fed, requiring more fermentation to break the grass down, causing two to four times more methane to be released from the cows directly. Methane is much worse for global warming than carbon dioxide (CO2), as it has about 25 times more warming potential than CO2.
Plus, they take longer to grow and reach slaughter weight so they live longer and therefore have higher overall lifetime emissions. Plus, they require around 41 percent more land than grain-fed cows. Cows alone are responsible for 70 percent of deforestation in Brazil, so choosing to eat grass-fed beef will further exacerbate this destruction.
When it comes to the environment, grass-fed beef is not the lesser of two evils, and if you truly want to eat a sustainable diet, a plant-based diet is best as it produces fewer greenhouse gasses and requires far less land and water.
You're right, "sustainable" animal farming can only exist if industrial farming is there to make up for the rest of the demand. Anything else would require a 95% reduction in meat consumption if not more. If you eat only hunted or grazed animals you absolutely rely on everyone else continuing to eat factory-produced meat and to suggest others to follow their example is wholeheartedly dishonest.
Indeed, basic logic.
It's sUstAiNaBLe tHo ReGeNEraTivE. Gotta throw some more buzzwords in there.
Excellent points, except methane is 130 times more potent than CO2 while it remains methane in the atmosphere (8-12 years). The lower number is popularized by ag-funded organizations like FAO to deliberately dilute its contribution. Methane degrades into CO2 after a decade, so after that it only contributes GWP of one, but since we don't have 100 years to slow climate change before we start triggering tipping points, and since radiative heating is based on current gaseous concentrations, the short-term GWP potential is the only one we should be considering. You also didn't mention nitrous oxide, which is in animal urine, which is 265 times more potent than CO2, or the respiration of the animals, which are both considerable and often overlooked end products of animal agriculture.
@@timpz Even hunting supports factory farms: There are over 4,000+ _Factory "Game" Farms_ (in just the US) that breed deer and other animals for hunters to [unnecessarily] kill. -North American Deer Farmers Association
@@MrNick3742 Yikes, even worse than I thought! Thank you for sharing this info. 😬 We're doomed. ✌️💖🌎
2 kids vegan from preconception and both healthy. He's talking rubbish.
They eat meat bro. Lol. You are just too cringe of a Karen for them to let you know.
Like listening to a drunk, telling you that a glass of wine a day is perfectly healthy and that it's dangerous to quit alcohol immediately.
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Even if animals WERE required to regenerate the soil, native animals would be by far the best to do it.
I didn't see the cameraman, but wow!
I've never met anyone who has been vegan since birth but I sure wish I was one of these people!
Vegan food is healthy and if planned correctly can give you a long happy life. I haven't eaten meat in over 30 years and I'm healthier than most people my age and I look 10 years younger. It can be done you just have to be focused and make sure that you either research it yourself or ask a nutritionist or doctor for a meal plan.
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Yes for your body not everyone can run well on just that let's use tour brain
@@ANJH1106 I don't know if you realize it or not but you're not spelling the words correctly. On one of them I think you meant the word "your" but you put the word "tour". Eating some veggies like broccoli spinach and kale will help with focusing better on writing.
When your episodes of chronic pain an jerk motions, tell me why hmm I love my veggies look at my profile pick! Indeed its ghost pipe a really rare organism used in holistic medicine. Anyways eating kale etc that has nothing to do with attention span an common spelling mistakes. Surley I love me some good broccoli!
@@ANJH1106 30 years and never had any diseases or problems. Here's to 30 more.
This dude has to be getting funding from animal agriculture. Not only did he deny scientific consensus, he plugged a couple farms by name while waving meat at the camera from one of them. The audacity of him to bring up confirmation bias.
Scientific consensus is a meme. What it most likely and useful to you is what science is all about. What somebody's _opinion_ on the "consesus" of a bunch of people is irrelevant to science and is rather a very effective blocker of doing informing on actual science.
Klaus this was a great debate - really admire how you patiently listened to his pov as well as sharing information
He does not look finely tuned to eat animal meat - he’s a cheeseburger away from bypass surgery.
Two children raised entirely vegan, they're doing better than their peers on average in all departments - health, energy, intelligence, learning capability (ie language). All the parents we socialize with are always surprised we're vegan when they figure it out/finally ask. Shrug* guess this guy thinks I should be locked up.
You did great Klaus!!! Thank you so much for having these discussions.
Thank you Klaus for your work😊😊😊💚💚💚
I side on the side of animal rights…that said, I appreciate the debate without resorting to name calling and shouting
It's hard for someone to agree with a position that comprises their paycheck
It drives me nuts when people just say “ millions of years of evolution” and think that that is a good or factual excuse.
People even think they are making a great point with that. It's ridiculous!
Yeah, ignoring that we evolved in the tropics on mostly plant based. We only started eating meat as we moved out of the tropics where plant foods were more seasonal.
@@BM1982.V2that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. You must be vegan
At this point is very clear that the human body can live on plants and fungi. Not only people with a soothing life, everyone.
Klaus doing amazing work. No one better to get these points across.
Thank you Klaus for continuing to press him.
Klaus, you are the best. I love your interviews.
Nothing better for sequestering than untouched wild land. Of world went vegan we would be able so save 75% farming land use. Grazed and confused used every single published study. The papers he referred to was t published or peer reviewed. Just anecdotal.
Vegan body builders and pro athletes exist. It's already proven we don't need meat and that we can improve without it. This guy is silly.
That red flush in his skin is not that a finely tuned machine. Unless he has just been jogging in his suit.
Claiming information bias while spewing information biases.
Thanks Klaus and camera man! Hopefully people like this guy will learn the truth eventually.
Seventh-Day-Adventists, longest living demographic, promote plant based and vegetarian diet, with strict moderation on dairy. He can disagree all he wants. That processed meat is killing him
Yet I’m not Adventist by my in laws all are and I’m only vegan
@@MoistVegan Indeed, I play at an Adventist church, and about half of the members practice the Ellen White diet. But, that "half" still leaves them at an advantage over Standard American Dieters, when comparing life expectancy.
@@williamtaylor5320 o well. They know but don’t care. They still eat animal products. Even Adventist health study on 10% are vegan
That is not true. Most Adventists eat meat and only 8% of them are vegan. Adventists also dont live the longest. Vegans are clowns.
I, as an Ethical Vegan, am 100% against rewilding with the Introduction of Predators!!!
The meat advocate has a point: eating animal products is healthy - he looks terrific for being in his 80s!
a meat peddler saying that everyone must do that. have he never though of the animal life that has to be killed to just do that, psychopathic mentality right there.
why is it so hard to care for life? it has to be a deep rooted mental issue.
Is a plant a living organism as well?
@@itdepnz irrelevant direction of argumentation.
@@sudd3660 You didn't like the question? 🤔
@@itdepnz you are avoiding the real animals getting hurt, no chance you are a intelligent or emotional human, more like a robot sheeple.
@@itdepnz a plant is a living organism, but the main question is: is a plant a "sentient being"? Many animals (vertebrates and cephalopods, perhaps many other invertebrates?) are sentient beings. As a vegan, I don't eat animals not because they're alive, but because they could suffer, like me. After all, any carnivore could eat me, but should he? If he cares about my ability to suffer, he won't. Or, I hope so. 😉
my wife and i are vegans (5 years now) and we have raised our little man vegan from birth. he's now 2.5 years old. we're not dying.
Dont worry. The kid will get sick and eat meat behind your back.
What an absolute joke of a 🤡!!
Well done on keeping your composure, Klaus. 💪🌱
Raising a vegan daughter here and at 20months she’s healthy and happy every day. 🥰💖
Lacking iron k an macros take a blood test report prove me wrong
This was an awesome debate from both parties! Of course, both didn't agree on some points, but in general it was a respectful debate.
we always want to keep it respectful! It hinders progress otherwise ❤
He dodged but if he does believe it's preferable to harm neither human nor animal he owes it to himself and the victims of his choices to find the truth about the health aspects of plant based diets and that eating animals is unnecessary
As a former addict there was a time when my body very much wanted cocaine. Does not mean it was good for me, does not mean I don't feel a lot better now that I don't do coke. Vegan 17 years btw
13:47 he doesn’t believe that 8 billion people changing from factory farming to regen meat wouldn’t require more land because he can currently buy products from Regen farms. Gosh he is dumb
I know, right. I have never heard an advocate of this regenerative farming nonsense not concede that meat would have to be much, much more expensive and eaten rarely if we did away with factory farming animals and switched to this so-called regenerative farming.
My son is 34 this year. I went from vegetarian to vegan when I was five months pregnant with him. He is still vegan and very healthy. The only health issue he has had in his life is chilblains, and I don't think veganism causes that. Otherwise, being vegan all this time myself, I would probably get them too.
Veganism is about compassion it needs a bigger heart to realise that i can't kill an animal that wants to live . Its not about my body, my life , child its about the animal.
Seth J. Itzkan doesn't get it. I'm all for getting rid of all the animal agriculture crops like soybeans and corn. We can then turn that land into pastures for animals to graze and get rid of factory farms. The production of beef and other meat would be drastically decreased. The price of beef would skyrocket to possibly over $100/lb. Also, let's get rid of govt subsidies of meat and dairy. Yeah, let's do this.
It was a very informed discussion. I think the points were very well put from both. Thanks for the video
Good job guys
Do more debates dude nice going
Now that is a good, healthy debate keep your good work Klaus
thanks for the support - appreciate it!
The only place for beef cattle that isn't extravagantly wasteful is on marginal land. That's because fertile land can be used much more productively for plant agriculture. Unfortunately marginal lands tend to be fragile and are marginal because of adverse climate conditions like drought, so they aren't really suitable either. The beef industry exists on subsidies, and governments only subsidise it because people, like this bloke, mistakenly think it's necessary.
It's going to take a while to educate those people when the beef industry is actively engaged in green-washing and defending the indefensible.
Allan Savory is almost single handedly responsible for African elephant extinction, to hell with his current land.
*[insert: "If I speak, I'm in big trouble. And I don't want to be in big trouble" GIF here]*
#LiveVegan💚💚
Subject morality = I eat meat because I can , I feel like it and I want to.
What is the rational obligation to abstain from eating animal foods?
so his belief isn't "confirmation bias?" The only thing true that he said is that he wants it...
I have been vegan for 53 years and I am terrified by people like him he sounds intelligent while being totally wrong
It is so easy to survive and thrive on a healthy, whole foods, vegan diet 😃
Then why is the success rate of people quitting veganism so high? Vegans only represent 0.5% of the population.
@@itdepnz social pressure. From relatives, advertising, politics... Society is a complex system, with a lot of structures of domination and arbitrary social norms (called "traditions", "laws" or whatever you want). Thinking differently can be difficult. Being a minority doesn't mean you're absolutely wrong, it just means the majority might be wrong.
@@bricebreard3380 Good point. However, I would suggest the low numbers are due to the fact that it is unsustainable from a nutritional standpoint. If you have to take a bunch of chemicals daily to make the diet work, vegans are not eating a proper human diet.
@@itdepnz for my part, I became vegan almost ten years ago, and I don't take any "bunch of chemicals" in my daily routine. And I'm still alive, my health is good. And I have a physical work, six days a week. Am I some kind of exception ? Or could I find a lot of meat eaters that need to take the same bunch of chemicals each day?
Btw, I'm sorry if I make some mistakes in English, it's not my mother tongue. 😉
@@bricebreard3380 Your English is fine and glad you are alive and healthy.
Sure, you don't take a "bunch of chemicals" in your daily routine but you do have to compensate for the nutrient deficiencies of a vegan diet. Where do you get your B12, taurine, carnosine, D3, DHA, heme-iron, creatine, vitamin A, copper, iodine, selenium? You MIGHT be an exception. After all, vegans only make up 0.5% of the general population.
Where is the 2023 end of year film?
criminal parent? ok come get me then...!
Dont eorry. Your kid will eat meat behind your back.
I won’t eorry.
As its their choice…
@@yonickyg9719 they will also secretly hate you for destroying their health, with your silly vegan religious views.
It's funny how often people accuse someone of doing something, which they themselves are doing. Confirmation bias? To quote, "I assure you there are dozens of papers which make it perfectly clear that animal source protein and particularly animal fats are much better for you." Yes, there are dozens such papers, but then there are meta-analysis studies that clearly show that a plant based diet is healthy for all stages of the lifecycle. That is why the NHS, the British Dietetic Association and the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics have put out these statements.
exactly this!
@@PLANTBASEDNEWScase in point.
Meta-analysis depends on the quality of the studies included. For instance the AND position paper is based on an observational study. Observational studies are completely unreliable with 80-100% of them being proven wrong in controlled trials. There is no evidence that a vegan diet is healthy for any stage of life. There is no causal link between eating animal foods and noncommunicable diseases.
Hell yeah, meat to thrive.
Ask the camera man to publish his vegan cookbook since birth.
That was fun!
The problem here is the regenerative farming is better than mono crops. But there is a way to farm without needing to produce meat from animals. Permaculture produces more, improves the soil, avoids fertilizer and pesticides. But this isn't farming where there is tons of meat production. We need an advocate for better farming practices who also knows we don’t need to eat meat to be healthy. His approach isn't sustainable either
There is no evidence that a vegan diet is healthy for any stage of life. It is difficult to obtain many essential micronutrients in adequate quantities from plant source foods.
much cognitive dissonance
I actually really agree with his closing statement
Carnist dude was making studies up on the spot. Studies are not coming out showing plant protein is so different, the direct opposite is happening. Dude gets his science off social media influencers.
You should change the caption to “finely tuned machine becomes human by eating meat?!” Lol
he wants a mono animal "crop land" lol
"finely tuned" mmh. Dozens of papers that are sponsored by big companies with a vested interest in making money, first and foremost.The meat and dairy industry in a nutshell. Things need to change soon as its not working mister finely tuned.
Finely tuned to be ignorant
With all due respect, the colour of his face says his heart's about to explode.
😳 Yikes 😳
What I've learned is that people can't have a rational conversation about something when one side of the argument would lead to the conclusion that they're doing something bad
6:13 ah some magical thinking on show I see. We use already use a gigantic amount of land for current extensive animal ag, but if we want to say double that, we won't need more land. 🤔
I didn't quite catch if he's involved in those meat products personally?
Pray for him
The common food items in most “diets” seems to say eating your veggies is good; it only becomes not good enough or a problem or even bad for you if that is the only thing you eat ie vegan.
Ignorance is criminal. No excuse for it.
How many times can you say "deleterious " in 5 minutes.
New 'word of the day' for this guy :D
"I'm a finely tuned machine" that's the line that broke me. Sorry.
Hahahaha, that look of surprise after revealing the cameraman's been vegan since birth!
If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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The ignorance is shocking.
He literally is just saying. I don’t think we need to eat less meat and how could it possibly be an issue because clearly I can buy meat online from some companies so how could it be bad/.
What essential nutrients does a plant diet provide that a meat diet doesnt?
None.
Well. lecithins, phytonutrients, xenoestrogens, mycoproteins. But they're all either difficult to use in the human body or straight up toxic. Heme iron, hydroxyapetite in milk animal protein are all easier to digest with less waste and not irritating or toxic. As well as having a _very long_ laundry list of nutrients that don't exist in plants. Retinal, Cholecaliferol, Taurine, Carnitine, Carnosine, Glucosamine. Many of which have hilariously powerful effects in clinical settings and in personal experimentation