Earthling Ed Reveals STRANGEST (And Creepiest) Anti-Vegan Arguments
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2022
- ‘This Is Vegan Propaganda’ - FULL Interview With Earthling Ed / Episode 78 Here: plnt.news/pod78
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I am so excited to be joined today by none other than Ed Winters (aka Earthling Ed). Ed is a vegan educator who’s content boasts over 200 million views, he has also hosted numerous viral speeches, debates, and videos engaging in dialogue with non-vegans and skeptics. Ed has delivered speeches at numerous schools, universities, and major companies including Google, he has engaging audiences all around the world.
As an activist, vegan educator and more recently a published author, he is a firm advocate for animal rights and the vegan lifestyle. Ed’s advocacy centres around compassion, empathy, and open communication. In 2016, he founded a grassroots animal rights organisation called Surge. Two years later he launched Unity Diner - a non-profit vegan restaurant in London, all the proceeds from which go directly to helping animals. The culmination of that work is his longtime passion project Surge Sanctuary, which houses rescued animals on a vast 18 acre property.
Most recently, Ed has published his first book This is Vegan Propaganda (And Other Lies the Meat Industry Tells You), which presents an indisputable case for veganism. This is a book that is as much for non-vegans as it is for those who already lead a vegan lifestyle, empowering them to talk more confidently about veganism with the non-vegans in their life. The book explores the effects of animal farming across the globe and how they are rooted in a number of factors that have created our current system.
I am delighted to welcome Ed and find out more about the inspiration behind the book and everything else that he has been up to with his advocacy work recently.
You can grab a copy of Ed’s book This Is Vegan Propaganda: (And Other Lies the Meat Industry Tells You)’ here amzn.to/3JBeuAL
You can find out more about Ed here earthlinged.org
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‘This Is Vegan Propaganda’ - FULL Interview With Earthling Ed / Episode 78 Here: plnt.news/pod78
"‘This Is Vegan Propaganda’ "
I agree 💯Klaus 👍
@@wherethereslifethereshope9858
¿Qué?
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@@PercivalBlakeney Qué no entiendes?
@@wherethereslifethereshope9858
In the past, you'd given me the impression that you were a woman.
I was curious as to why, then, you would sign off as "Klaus".
Odd name for a girl.
(... and now I understand; it's Klaus whom you were addressing.)
Quite right though, "propaganda"... as the Inquisition said about Galileo, Copernicus and Giordano Bruno,
... as the Church of England said about Charles Darwin (and various preachers have said about Richard Dawkins).
"Project Fear", as Nigel Farage would doubtless have interjected (trustworthy as "the day is long" that he is).
😉
Animals lives don’t matter.
Updated to say "I told you so" after reading the weak, anti-vegan comments, lolol. 😂🤣
46 years vegetarian, 16 of those vegan. I've yet to hear a legitimate argument against veganism from an omnivore. With the information available today, the real question is WHY ISN'T EVERYONE VEGAN?!
I almost went vegan (Mar. 19) but research suggested I try WF omnivore. Results are excellent, so NO to veganism!
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme veganism isn't a diet mate.
@@80slimshadys doesn’t matter, he feels better not being vegan. it suits his body.
@@Alan-rw3ez that's a pretty ignorant assumption. Nowhere was that insinuated. The dude would feel the same eating a WFPBD, they never went vegan so it's intellectually dishonest to say they feel better than something they never tried, and it's not an ethical argument either so it's a non sequitur.
@@80slimshadys I've tried WF diets, with both very low & moderate animal/plant ratios & the latter wins by a country mile. Veganism may not be a diet but it involves adopting a deficient diet, which I don't feel obliged to do.
Ed politely says “strange” arguments when you know he’s really thinking “stupid” arguments
True, I noticed it too 😄
yes Ed is lying to himself about his goals.. really important is to him, to have a victim and a persecutor, so that he could be the rescuer..
just lies, to get this framing in perfekt towels
@@gettingnew500
Don’t think that’s the case. He just doesn’t want to insult anybody, so he uses a polite language. What rescuing are you talking about?
@@marishasveganworld2240 not to insult anyone is the rescuer roll..
but I say, the rescuers are the perpetrators.
transactional analysis, drama triangle
like this:
victim persecutor rescuer ua-cam.com/video/gjidMMWlKM0/v-deo.html
@@marishasveganworld2240 Incidentally, I understood the framing so well because they discussed it about Putin, who is currently using the perpetrator victim fraiming.
Ed is so intelligent and amazing. So lucky to have him on our side helping the animals.
Ed is absolutey inspirational indeed
What animals?
My cat animals insisted upon 2 lots of fried chicken, today. I lurv them, so complied.
@@bugzbunny109 Oh you know, those ones from planet Blorg. What do you reckon?
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme lol what
I am always happy to hear Ed talk. It gives me the reassurance that there is some goodness and common sense left in the world.
He is eating meat just he’s hiding,
@@felinoaaron846 yep but these soon to be former vegans themselves brain dead sheep followers actually believe these youtube fake vegans are telling them the truth
@@nicksguitarlessons7482 no I love meat and feel no guilt eating it, why because I know the truth and The God who made all life 🙏🏾
@@nicksguitarlessons7482 The Lord GOD is not concerned with animals He's concerned with souls so that they don't bust hell wide open, The Almighty has already spoken of the eating of animals. Genesis 9:3 1Timothy 4:1-4 and concerning animals The Lord GOD commanded the sacrifice of animals for 100's of years to make a offering for sin Leviticus 1:1-10 vegans are self-righteous morons so gullible and the only way they will learn veganism is the doctrine of devil's is when there health declines unless they are cheating like all the youtube leaders.
@@nicksguitarlessons7482 so the people that were vegan in the garden of eden were extremely gullible and completely lacked awareness? That sounds like current vegans. I'd never want to be like that.
What’s interesting is that the definition of vegan doesn’t necessarily mean anything specific except to cause the least harm or exploitation possible. It’s completely adaptable to any circumstance.
Yes it does. Vegan means no animal products. Then what's a word for that? I would like a word for that. Not just for vegan to mean niceness like you were trying to change it to. Some vegans don't care about every issue. Some vegans care about animals more than people. Some are vegans for just health.
I often have to question whether many people even have conscience, given how many turn a blind eye towards animal exploitation, it's all about their own personal gain, convenience in their lives. My own father and mother and relatives are an example - they know the reality, but still choose to consume these products either because of a strong personal belief or they find excuses like ''raised locally'' and such...or they simply don't care. When i look at today's society i see gluttony, mindless consumerism with a complete disregard for consequences. It's such a sad and depressing reality, when you yourself are consciously aware of what's really happening, the horrors being commited.
It's hard for people to get past the old "we need meat to be healthy" belief. If you live in the U.S. then I can give some info that could help.
@@suicune2001 True, but there ius definitely more to it. Plenty of people won't change even knowing we don't need to consume animals.
They are not self aware and ironically are also the ones who lie and state animals are not self aware🤣
@@Kristers_K Yeah. Many may not until they realize they are harming their children as well as themselves. I also take note of what illnesses my friends and family have and tell them how eating animals is causing said issue.
But the most effective way I've seen, which is why I asked if you lived in the U.S., is government regulations and reports. Knowing it's bad for you is one thing but knowing the animals have leukemia, AIDS, and other diseases is another. It's also a very different thing when they are shown the very laws that say it's legal to feed animals feces, urine, ground up diseased animals (including cannibalism), antibiotics, and growth hormones.
I like to gross people out with the truth. lol. I also talk about zoonotic disease a lot.
@@suicune2001 I'm not from US, but i get it.
Here in Latvia veganism is a poorly recognized concept, although there are plenty of plant base meat/dairy alternatives and no shortage of grains, legumes, veg..etc.
But when it comes to people...heavy meat and dairy consumers, cancer is rampant, especially colorectal, as well as heart disease.
Everyone on my father's side going back many generations died of colon cancer in their 60s and my grandmother last year at 75...., late stage, just slowly withered away, skin and bones. Grandfather suffered and died with Alzheimer's in his early 60s. He sure loved his butter and everything else.
My mother had a heart attack 2 years ago at age 52. A a heavy ,meat and cheese lover.
it's a pattern that can be seen all over the world and it's quite sad.
Not sure about the goverment here, i'm not into politics, but the practices are the same as everywhere, dairy especially.
My favorite straw-grasping anti-vegan arguments (all of which I've actually been told):
1) Then Vegans shouldn't drive because driving kills bugs.
2) Vegans kill more life in the form of bacteria and waste more water because they poop more.
3) Lab meat is actually more cruel to animals because the animals will never be born and thus never have a chance to have lived.
4) If animals are being used as conduits for energy we could get more directly from plants, why don't we just eat the dirt?
5) Why would God put useless animals like cows and chickens on Earth, if not to be eaten?
6) Veganism is actually more immoral than carnivore, because talking about it just makes other people feel bad.
7) Hitler was a vegan.
8) If everyone went vegan, all the cows and pigs would breed and overpopulate and cause more environmental problems
9) Vegans are ego-maniacs. They are just pushing veganism for their own mental benefit and They think it's cool.
10) Women who swallow c*m aren't true vegans.
(I actually hesitate to post this, because anti-vegans will probably say these are great arguments and try to use them later)
They are trolling, hateful, pos. Ignore the evil apes.
Does give us the heads up though. Some of them make me laugh.
Some solid gems in there. I wouldnt worry about giving them arguments to the world, anyone with half a brain would be ashamed to say these seriously.
Well, Hitler also liked children. What will the trolls do about that?
Experience (of different diets) informs me that I don't need an argument but you do you, bud. 😁😆🤣
Thanks Ed. I am recently retired and would love to help with this animal, planet and human saving movement. When will you be in the U.S. again? I’ve been vegan for 21 months now. It has been a wonderful journey and I will never go back to consuming animals. You are like the Martin Luther King of animal rights. What a meaningful life you are living! Beautiful.
Thank you for choosing to stand on the right side of history, comrade
@@Corvid_Moon thanks my friend. Right back at you.
It's 8 p.m in Sweden at the moment, so this was one of the first things I read today. Very inspiring words that made me happy and hopeful. Every person dedicating to this cause is a hero to me! Together we're making history!
Much appreciation and respect!
@@MindVersusMisery Thank you for the kind words. They made my day. You are right. We are all in this together.
i believe Ed is temporarily living in the US
Earthling Ed is the brightest star in the vegan movement. Thank you!
Biggest fraud. He'll cause more harm than anyone when a prominent vegan influencer calls him out. Non-vegans are already aware of Edward Gaunt and his fraudulent behaviour.
@@DoodlesMcpooh Non-vegans have absolutely no arguments left, so the only thing they can do is this pathetic attempt to shoot the messenger! Only the feeble minded will fall for it...
@@kearress7350 Laughing, and eating meat is still a human right.
As a native Texan, I’m not surprised by some of these arguments at all😐
Veganism will lead to "communism"
As a Christian who is Vegan, most of the attacks I encounter comes from others who identify as Christians and generally have a limited understanding of scrioture.
1Timothy 4:1-4 no u have 0 understanding of Scripture the truth of God is the scripture I gave u, veganism is the doctrine of devil's
@@stewmeat92 This is where you err, you like quite a few in the Churches today only site the literal meaning of a verse.You have the wrong hermeneutic ."Meat" in this case, is speaking of Spiritual Food or the understanding of the Word of God. By commanding some to "abstain from Meats" (referring to the Elders, Deacons, etc that see only the literal)
They are saying not to "dig into" or "eat" if you will the true spiritual meaning of scripture.
Here is a verse that may help you in that regard"
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1 Corinthians 3:2 KJV
We must be careful not to take verses out of context.By using that verse to call someone a Devil or to say they are under "The Doctrine of Devils", essentially you are making that accusation against The very Word of God. This is a very serious offense .
@@channa1955 u are so so so willingly deceived the word bro'-mah is translated food not spiritual nothing as u willingly ignorantly claim. The Lord GOD Himself told Noah in Genesis 9:3 he has given us for food anything that moves except the blood that has the life ( humans). U are a fake Christian u don't belong to Christ because all followers of Christ no the truth John 17:17. But just like most of the world u will find out the hard way because judgement is coming. And when Paul said he feed them with milk is not meat because in that next verse he said they where babies and that verse was a analogy to spiritual growth not literally meat u deceived women
@@stewmeat92 Listen to yourself, you sound like a clanging cymbal. Where is your love? Is that what my Father is teaching you? Why are you so judgmental? Just wait until you will stand at His presence…
@@eranimila2831 your father is not the God of Truth, ur god is the god of emotion and feeling and self-righteousness
A hero! To speak out against oppression, creating the change we need with an effect in all aspects of life.
What about the oppression of vegan to people that eat meat, or ex vegans
@@victoria23n veganism is a moral baseline or philosophy against animal abuse. Do you feel the same for dog abusers or women abusers being oppressed? Because people actually made laws against those actions.
@@christianz8020 so you confirm that there is an oppression against ex vegans ,,and meat eater, and they should be compared with woman abusers and punished?
@@victoria23n no, actually woman abusers are oppressors. I was just using logic to identify the double standard of calling vegans oppressors when they merely speak out against violence towards non-human animals.
so wait opression? like vegan nutjobs going to supermarkets and pretending the meat is people and smearing fake blood all over, or protesting outside of meat and supermarkets or all of the youtubers who act like kids or say they want to kill babies or say all meat eaters need to be killed of have vascectomies? lol
When i grow up i want to be like him 😅
I'm adult, I dont like his behavior. It is not authentic. He is lying, not only by words, but by behaviour.
@@4niruth16 i answered yet, look down below.
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This vegan generation's Gary Yuorovsky. Definitely a father of modern veganism.
*Post modern* as the modern world ended back in the mid 1980s! 💚
@delocalizingMayfly 😱and guess what? I dont care😑
Ed is incredible. Bought his book, Vegan Propaganda, and it's a book that everyone should read. Thank you for blessing us with your work and your passion Ed, you're changing so many lives (and the world) for the better.
...But if your having a heart attack on the battlefield, your meat eating won't help you much.
are you saying meat eating causes heart attacks?
'There's no right way to do the wrong thing'. Solid.
Ed is always articulate and inspiring. Thank you for your good work, Earthling Ed. 🙏🏼
I'm halfway through his book. He seems most in his element when he's Socratically conversing, but I'm very satisfied with his arguments so far. Peter Singer's moral argument is better organized, and I think more clearly written, but Ed is presenting far better ideas, really locking down the environment and human well-being arguments.
Peter Singer supports veganism as a reason to excuse his Beastiality desires. He is a sick individual.
Who cares, he’s wrong.
Ed is the man responsible for me trying veganism and then never looking back…
Thanks Ed. You do the right kind of activism for us all, for the animals we exploit, and the future of our planet.
@Destro Societ sorry, but you’re quite wrong on many fronts, and clearly don’t understand how veganism works. Many are successfully vegan, but of course it’s possible to get it wrong - same as with any diet. You’re body isn’t starved unless you put the wrong things in it. Living vegan is perfectly possible if you look at your food groups, nutrients, vitamins and minerals.
There’s no reason to eat meat and dairy in our modern world. There’s certainly no reason to eat as much meat and dairy products as we do. It’s out of control and the world is suffering for it. It might not always be easy, but it is worthwhile, healthy and of great benefit to human health and to this world.
Meat and dairy is both exploitative and terribly damaging to the the planet in many ways. They damage human health as well. Major studies have shown this clearly.
With respect, please read more widely about both veganism and about the toxicity of the meat and dairy industries.
@Destro Societ You're the liar. Do you volunteer your time commenting on vegan UA-cam channels to help save vegans from imagined malnutrition? Keep in mind the original post in this thread is one of positivity and encouragement, smeared with your filth in your replies. I'm happy to take any supplements necessary to avoid killing animals, which you of course regard as a huge plus for your pathetic collection of hopelessly flawed arguments for promoting animal cruelty.
Thank you for everything you do for the animals, brother. 🌱
@Destro Societ Let's see, a dietician with a blank single-purpose spamming account... what is the likelihood that I'm going to listen to you and go back to exploiting and killing animals? Joe Rogan, a habitual meat eater like yourself talked about the many supplements he takes. And I'm no scientist, but I believe animals are pumped with hormones before slaughter for your consumption. If you disregard that, then you're being selective and inconsistent. To be sure, you will have zero effect on my stance, because I don't regard you as having any standing, importance or moral backbone.
@Destro Societ Your motivation for being here is surely benevolent... simply to warn vegans about malnutrition. Very kind of you to spend your time in this way. Not kind to the animals, though. So I will continue to be a vegan, regardless of the number of supplements I need to take. Animals flee from humans and try to avoid death. They are torn from their family and treated as objects with no rights or value (other than money for fharmers). None of that means anything to you... in fact, you're here to perpetuate that cruelty. I find it loathsome and despicable.
Bloodlust? Really? That person needs to stop watching so much television. Ridiculous! #GoVegan 🌱🐾🌎
Eat meat make you a " real man"? Is the worst of all... my husband is strong, fit, kind, sexy, muscled, beautiful, looks at least 15 years younger than his actual age, he is in the army and is vegan! 😍😍
Wait till he is fifty, time will tell.
@4:55 In Sweden we have this thing called ”Krav” which means that if a brand or store is certified ”Krav” you should be able to trust that everything is done in a just way, everything is correct and clean, they have more thorough and more frequent checkins etc. Their website is flooded with words like ”sustainable”, ”animal welfare”, ”biodiversity”, just anything you can think of. I work at a store that is ”Krav” certified. We dont get a specific time but we do get a date, so we know which day theyre going to come. Most people here work 7-16 so it’s pretty easy to figure out the window when they’ll be here.
Djurrättsalliansen (”Animalrightsalliance”) here in Sweden managed to get cameras into the killroom of a ”Krav” certified pigfarm here and lo and behold, the workers were absolutely cruel to the pigs when they thought no one was watching. Beating them, kicking them, throwing them around. The public was so outraged the slaughterhouse shut down within two days of the footage being released. So we have proof that these labels dont really mean anything, the whole point was to prove to people that when it comes to this industry nothing is ”humane”. Yet after that people forgot/repressed and just moved on. Still buying meat with this certification and still thinking theyre doing something good and ”humane”. It’s exhausting.
I think it would be amazing if ed started lifting
Imagine if during a debate someone is like "vegans are skinny and have no protein" and then edd just flexes his bicep
He already gets haters all the time accusing him of cheating because they can’t stand that he’s good looking lmao. That would drive them mad
He's too busy lifting the cash from Pharmaceutical investment companies like Blue Horizon Ventures his "charities" that are actually for-profit businesses and the $7k a month from gullible vegans that donate. He's a millionaire. He was born a millionaire then tricked you all into giving him more money.
Great work, thank you for sharing
Vegan for the animals...
Vegan for life...
What about the life of plants, fungi and bacteria?
Eat meat for the animals, and because it is a human right.
I read James Nestor's book "Breathe" recently where he described how high levels of CO2 induce pure panic, even in people with amygdala damage who cannot experience fear. The CO2 gas chambers must be one of the worst ways to die.
Yeah the bolt in the head is defs the way to go
Dying of old age would be a way to go
@@agadooska For a cow, I believe that would be called a wasted life.
Sounds like that guy from Texas may have played too much Warcraft.
"Storm, Earth and Fire! Heed my call!"
If we all ate plant based, there would be far fewer chronically ill people.
It's not about us people...it’s about other animals...👵🌿
You mean mentally chronically ill people…Mistreating, killing and eating other animals and not having any speck of empathy for their suffering is a terrible mental condition. All so unnecessary and savage.
@@mevroegopschoonveld8945 in all fairness they said plant based, not vegan
@@sciencelad8286 Lol at your username. Research shows that vegans suffer far more from mental health issues than omnivores.
@@DoodlesMcpooh Quite the opposite is true. There is a lot of misinformation out there. It is not necessary to argue, just look at our hospitals and pharmacies and what the vast majority of the patients are being treated for, and what caused them to be there. It’s as easy as 2+2=4. Further, there is the issue of how we treat and slaughter millions of sentient beings every day, unnecessarily. That should bring tears to the eyes of any human.
I would love to know the track that´s always playing at the end:)
Jakarta--Bonsaye........If you get the app Shazam, you can pretty much find out all your 'song/music" curiosities. Youre welcome.
As always, Ed is brilliant. But I wanted to give props to your lighting design here. Really interesting look. The green and pink LEDs (?) are very cool
Those are lightsabers, jedi vegans.
Nice video guys, fair play.🌱🌍🧠
Thank you
The conversation on red tractor is interesting and informative I really enjoyed this
When I went vegan, people said "I can't eat this and that" I became vegan because I saw the movie earthlings and the habit of eating meat is contributing to climate change, harm to animals, people.
@reveccawatson just did a video about research that actually proves that treating animals badly does actually make people treat each other badly. Fascinating and disturbing argument.
He's so well spoken, I wish I was able to be this clear about it
I attemded Texas A&M from 1966 to 1968, majoring in zoology. The same weird notions about blood lust and vegetarian weakness were endemic there even back then.
Get Ed on mainstream TV. Get him everywhere.
The man knows his stuff.👏👏👏
you know nothing
but edward gaunt is hiding the truth from you.. see the hunter vs vegan
well you're a peasant after all
Now I'm not going to Texas A&M even If I get accepted yikes😭🤚
1:21 "Ten largest public university campuses by enrollment during the 2020-21 academic year"
1. University of Central Florida: 71,948
2. Texas A&M University: 71,109
3. Ohio State University: 61,369
Sounds like a fun video!
Any form of a gas chamber is horrifying!!! For human or nonhuman animals
Why?
@@DoodlesMcpooh why what? Isn't it self explanatory?
@@DoodlesMcpooh maybe give the video a watch before asking empty questions. Thanks.
@@mariaangelova8275 humane slaughter is perfectly fine. Much kinder than deaths in the wild.
@@DoodlesMcpooh What happens in the wild has nothing to do with what we humans decide to do in our day-to-day lives.
I would highly recommend you look up the word humane. Perhaps if you learn the meaning then you wouldn't be making such ridiculous claims.
I am left without words every time I see Ed. He is the most amazing advocate for animal rights
Hahahahaha
me to, the massive missinformation leaves me speechless
@@highlander200268 874 comments on this channel??? 🤔
@@isaacperal9778 what does that have to do with anything?
@@highlander200268874 comments on a channel called ‘plant based news’ criticising veganism????? Are you being serious? What is the point of getting that obsessed? I get that you may not like it or agree, but why spending so much of your time on it?
When will you talk about BPATOL Ed. I’m waiting.
0:53 we are unfortunately the home of Q Anon, so it’s not surprising Ed would have that experience…thanks to Ed for bringing some sanity to the US
Vegans, laughing. Apparently one of the worlds most unhealthiest looking people that tell others how to live. Laughing out loud.
Watching this after enjoying some brussel sprouts with hash brown oil free potatoes topped with vinegar.
Ewww. I bet my own feces has more nutrition than that.
Give it a couple more years. You won’t last
Big up Ed man, been watching him since 2016
And yet you still haven't figured out he's a fraudster?
I kiss this man's heart.
thank you ed for everything!
Why are abattoirs isolated from cities? Why are the transports of flesh so tightly regulated? Why are they located on lay lines? Why is the flesh dressed before display at the market? How can death give life? Thou shalt not kill.
It's a shame regardless of how educated people get, that people act still like in Stone Age ideals. You can get anything you need as far as health from the garden and not even kill a walking body.
Carnies ONLY get their healthy nutrients from garden, and they're acting like it's not like that!i mean...wtf....
@Robert ...that what are you doing here?
@Robert ...nice...I hope you change your perspective, and take it to100% plant based 😉
@Robert Why would any vegan change their perspective and start supporting the torture and killing of animals? You understanding of veganism is obviously as deficient as your conscience.
How many people have enough room to grow enough food to survive off of? What happens when your crops fail?
Somebody I knew was trying to convince me that plants feel pain too, therefore there's no sense in excluding them from compassion. I answered her. I have half a dozen reasons why I disagree. She told me that I was rationalizing! I was so shocked I couldn't do anything but laugh. But of course everything I said was right. She couldn't disagree. She just attacked my intellect. If I were going to rationalize, I'd do it in favor of eating animals, because it wasn't something I gave up because I didn't want to do it. I gave it up because I am forced to face the fact that it's immoral. I can't get around that.
They're just trolling you. They are not your friends/family if they don't respect your moral superiority.
@@robertcohen8554 I don't see the moral superiority in her story but even if there was, what would that change the message that exploiting and murdering animals unnecessarily is wrong? Textbook whataboutism.
Omg my mom pulls this line all the time. People use this one to redirect the conversation on you so you're not talking about their indefensible choices.
Don't tell them what YOU think. You have to ask them questions so THEY have to think. That's what Ed does.
"You're driving on a narrow road along a field of flowers and a baby lamb appears on the road. Which way will you go?"
"So, pulling a carrot out of the ground is the same as slitting the throat of a cow?"
"Do you believe animal cruelty is wrong? (They'll probably say yes.) Do you believe it's cruel to kill an animal that doesn't want to die?"
I was told by an acquaintance that studies show plants are intelligent so I am wrong. Plants have feelings and I am putting animals above plants for no reason. That I am misguided. This from a science PhD. Wtf
Thank you
Rhino, plant eater... 🌿🦏
Gorilla, plant eater... 🌿🦍
Elephant, plant eater...🌿🐘
Horse, plant eater...🌾🐴
No lack of strength, speed or confidence.
+ Man that eats meat; can barely walk, must use weapons, dies from heart disease.
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Those 4 animals are doing the same thing they have for more than a million years and have not advanced. Humans have advanced. Humans live much longer too and a chimp still dies at around age 30 from a type of heart disease while consuming no burgers, fries, cheese and other gunk.They also have tooth decay from all the fruit but no need to fix since they die at around 30.
We don’t have their digestive system 🤦♀️
@@janedough6575 who said.
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You...Keep eating microwave pizzas then.
I'll keep eating a big bowl of greens.
See who kicks the bucket first.
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I never said a diabetic chimp.
Man hasn't evolved...they barely outlive the diabetic chimp and die mostly of heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
If smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, living on microwaved crap, while wrecking a car on drugs ....shooting each other with nukes is evolving.
I'll stick with hanging with the gorillas.
At least they're reliable for up to a million years of consistent survival.
I don't think anyone will beat the excuse from one of my family members. In fact it was so cringe I put it on a T-shirt! It goes like this: "An elephant was filmed eating a bird's nest tho..."
Love Ed but cannot unsee the Riddler Jacket
I have to live in the same house with an anti vegan. He angrily says that veganism is a religion. I have tried to explain to him that calling myself a vegetarian doesn’t encompass the choice not to eat dairy or eggs as well as not killing fellow critters. I do understand his distain for vegans who call out slip ups, vegans who choose veganism 364 days per year but eat a bit of turkey at Granny’s on Christmas Day and the whole gold star vegan attitude. I am 100% on board as a vegan but I want to see our tribe show more compassion to everyone who is trying to do their best whilst living in an uncompassionate society. I currently hide my cookbooks and make my own vegan mayonnaise just to try to maintain peace in the house. It makes me sad. ( and no, gentle reader, I can’t afford to just kick him out. Life isn’t that easy)
I love that man
And we love you buddy!💚 Keep fighting the good fight as best you can.💪🧠🌱
I didn't know you batted for the other side Paul? 🤔
And we all love you too 💕
@@amprionnsa1867 I bat for both sides. What now, bigot.
@@Corvid_Moon "both sides"
Does this mean there are only two genders after all? 🤔Okay 👍
I'm not religious but let's face it.. he's essentially jesus
True about the argument being more politiced there, I think that goes for a lot of discussion and probably has to do with the pigeonholing that is so prevelent within US politics and society more broadly
Hahahaha I love hearing that you went to my alumna at Texas A&M, that sounds like exactly what an Aggie would say 😂
Indeed.
I really like Ed's outfit. He has a good sense of style.
I noticed that too!
there are no enemies, love is strong, time to use the power of love everybody:)
Ed is a true hero for us all 💚
People said the same about Mao, Hitler, Stalin etc. At least they actually achieved something.
@@DoodlesMcpooh haters gonna hate 😶
@@YadhGood no hate just want people to do their own research instead of listening to a proven conman.
The issue is; when it finally filters through that he's a scammer, it will do untold damage to the movement.
Veganism shouldn't allow one person to have so much influence.
@@DoodlesMcpooh if you’re so sure about your own research about Ed, then you should set a meeting with him and debate about it
@@YadhGood he ignores it when he's called out. Look into him on companies House with his real name, Edward Gaunt. Also look at how his is charities are for profit businesses he takes a lot of cash from and his employment with pharmaceutical investment company Blue Horizon Ventures.
It'll take you all of 5 minutes.
The Greatest 🌱
i can’t have oats, bread, flour, gluten, yeast, bananas, avocados, peppers, avocados, coffee, potatoes, rice, carrots, melons, nuts and some seeds. i’m not going to survive off of beans and blackberries.
It sounds like you have food allergies. That would be a gut health issue. The gut lining has leaks due to lack inflammation lack of good probiotics, etc. It is a condition called Leaky Gut.
A friend of mine became allergic to more things, until he seemed allergic to everything. Lived on chicken, oranges, and rice, but then...that was no good.
Saw a Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist, and they said no preservatives, need trace minerals, enzymes, fiber, inulin, and had to rotate certain foods in and out of diet...
And detox for heavy metals/pollutants...
Did some genetic tests too, I think.
Functional medicine or Integrative Medicine or wholistic doctors may help.
Takes time. But now my friend has put on weight and is fine.
It's ok if you can't survive off of plant foods only, veganism means you reduce animal suffering in all reasonable ways.
However, this isn't an argument or excuse for 99% of people that eat meat for pleasure
None of those things are nutrient-dense or bioavailable. Get some organ meats in your diet instead.
One thing vegans/vegetarians need is B12. Only found in meat.
Many plants do have protein, however.
I think brussel sprouts is one of them. Which are better when broken down into small leaves, spiced/buttered...
Wild rice is better than brown rice.
Buckwheat is Not wheat,candy very nutritious.
Beans (legumes) have a wide variety and recipes.
Purple carrots and purple garlic are more nutritious.
There are many varieties of every leafy green, herb, spice, root, and plant.
They provide different vitamins, enzymes, minerals, which are used by different organs of the body. Plus pre-biotics/fiber which are important to maintain probiotics and remove toxins from the body.
Avoiding GMO, along with the pesticides that are sprayed on them, preservatives, chemicals, BPA, will help to heal the digestive system.
Meat is hard to digest, especially by a compromised gut lining (and therefore) immune system.
Need more minerals/trace minerals, too. Magnesium Glycinate, zinc, K1 & K2 to absorb/direct calcium.
Agricultural methods have changed, so you have to supplement. Sad, but true.
Unless you are Seeing Functional or Integrative Medicine doctors that know how to implement wholistic principles...diet/detox, nothing will improve.
Drugs have side-effects.
They are only a quick fix to manage a long term problem, usually to lower dangerously high/low levels. Eventually, the Functional medicine doctor will take you off all drugs, in order to get a baseline.
They will do 'challenge tests' and rotate food groups.
Traditional Medicine is at least 50 years behind other branches of healing/corrective medicine such as Functional/Integrative/Wholistic, which seems to find the underlying cause of each condition. These may become inter-related, because body systems work together.
The body has an amazing ability to heal itself through various built in means.
Give it what it needs, and keep out what it doesn't.
Traditional Medicine doctors aren't even taught nutrition anymore! Especially in relation to Physiology.
Big Pharma funds many medical programs and research, so... Doctors are encouraged to write at least 3 scripts, and work with salesmen to make more profit.
There are many cures/treatments, but if your insurance doesn't cover it, they will say - No cure.
We eat way too much wheat and meat. Due to the jacked up growing methods there is twice as much gluten in bread than at any time in history. It makes it hard to digest heavier foods, such as meat.
The meat animals we over breed are not fed right, either. And they are stressed, with toxins/cortisol from stress in their system. It's passed on to us. Another possible cause for anxiety.
Industries make this our food supply. Farmers don't eat what they ship to market, they keep better options for themselves.
We don't have a high energy lifestyle, or struggle to stay warm. Yet we eat like we do!
We don't need all this meat, pollution, suffering as a norm, and ignoring it in a foggy, delusional, complacent state.
A little, eggs, butter, milk, cheese. A humanely raised, quick kill of an infrequent, occasional bird/animal. Nothing goes to waste.
That is all we need.
The more we kill, the more indifferent we become.
To everything and everyone.
It is a power grab by oppressive regimes.
Robber Barons in the US drove every type of Indian tribe off their land. Europeans were still using firewood, and horses for transport. Not obsolete, then. Could have easily learned and integrated best practices.
Instead, we decimated over a Million buffalo. The passenger pigeon and many other species - extinct.
Apparently we were never too concerned about meat, as we were Killing.
We had Victory Gardens while killing people in wars, then.
Totally sustainable. interactive community outlets. Less crime.
So excessive meat consumption is toxic and inhumane.
It's really an Industrial problem.
If there is no demand/acceptance, it will not be profitable.
Vote with your purchases.
Consumers have clout.
Gatis has already debunked these arguments
I don't know... There is something to this bloodlust argument. Some research did show that people who eat more meat, particularly red meat are more aggressive... 😶
Where did it say this
Just what we need - more aggression in this world.
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Ed seems like such a nice guy. He seems like the kind of guy who doesn't swallow the seed of the horse he sucks off but rather tries to plant it to grow a whole new horse to suck off
hihi
Fuckin LMAO.
But non vegans are the ones eating sausages right?
You gotta hand it to that one chick who brought up the Inuit, though.
the 0.08% of the time when a farm isn't told in advance that it's going to be audited must be due to miscommunication/administration error.
Poorly looked after animals are not profitable animals. It's stupid to think people would mistreat their animals on purpose. I suppose you think used car salesmen throw brick through the windows of their own cars too.
Are you really that stupid?
The US has been becoming a strange place and certainly is a very weird place today
The lighting in this studio is doing no one any favors.
There is so much conditioning going on especially in America. I think I have never seen an American movie, game or news sequence without guns, bombs, shooting, betrayal, lying, cheating etc. No wonder that the young Texan man is thinking about "enemies" and "defense" as motivation for his bloodlust food choice. I do not condemn it, but I can see where it comes from.
I think you might mean condone* not condemn. It's okay! I used to mix the 2 up sometimes too :)
@@Corvid_Moon aww thank you! Yes, English is my third language, I am glad you took the time to tell me 🙏😘 I mean I do not want to make an excuse for this man's argument, but I tried to analyse and understand it. 🙏🌱
The Fault in our Stars? Soul? Inside Out? that’s the closest i can think of without violence, betrayal, lying, cheating..
but you also have to take into account that a story needs some conflict, that doesn’t mean that it’s harmful, it’s about how the characters handle that conflict like for example in Zootopia, Legally Blond, A Dog’s Journey
i love ed!
Forget TED talks. Its ED talks that will save the world! 👌
I will give a new argument. Humans have the wrong gut for a plant based diet. To prove it i will challenge earthling ed to a bare nuckle boxing match. Will he take the challenge? I will prove earthling eds weakness.
He could be as weak as a soggy toothpick but he'd still be right...
Our gut sure looks like it is made for a plant based diet--Human stomach acid is 4-5 pH (Carnivores pH 1), we have a relatively large cecum (Carnivores small to non-existent), we have carbohydrate digesting enzymes (Carnivores don't), our small intestine is 10-11x our body length (Carnivores 3-6x), we can't detoxify vitamin A (Carnivores can), our esophagus is narrow and can't stretch (Carnivores wide and elastic), our saliva is alkaline (Carnivores acidic), we have molars (Carnivores don't), our jaw goes side to side (Carnivores can't). And the strongest, biggest land animals are all herbivores (Elephant, moose, guar, horse, gorilla...).
@@lakehuron7733 our closest living relatives chimpanzee's and banobo's are frequently seen eating meat as well as each other.
@@malcolmbartram5273 as frequently as they eat plants? or is that just a murder type deal
Industry: forcefully inseminating, taking babies, imprisoning
People: do you think farm animals are happy?
What a joke.
I think there is some truth to the "blood lust" argument, in the sense that it does seem to make people more aggressive, of course you could also make an arguement that it makes people move overweight, less athletic and thus less able to fight. Whether the removal of that aggressive component could make a population so weak and feeble that they would fail to be able to defend themselves seems particularly silly especially in light of the fact that our current defense is based almost entirely on technology (not a lot of battles are decided with hand to hand combat anymore)
How many keto channels u find makang nuffin but vegan bashang videoz?
Auditing schemes, even if they're schemes, are still a move in the right direction by normalizing the correct behavior at least on occasion. Being held to standards can be expanded. The hardest step is the first one.
Truthfully Told by Earthling Ed
Provide a source to show he said a single truthful thing in the whole video. The man is a liar.
Interestingly that person was right…Ellen White long declared that Meat eating makes one more Aggressive and Stupid…
Ed for Prime Minister!
Look into him. He's an actual conman. We've already got an actual conman as Prime Minister. Plenty of British vegans that are decent people that deserve your support instead.
Hench Herbivore is a decent human. Edward Gaunt is a grifter.
The question on weather you are vegan or not is ultimatly an ethical discussen, a philosophical argument with many aspects but it comes down to right and wrong, it comes down to morality. Is it wrong to take a life or cause suffering to support your own, in an age where it is not a necessity anymore for most people. My question always is, how relative or universal is morality?
Hilarious!! This is coming from Ed the Chegan?!
Cope
@@CollagenExpert Yes you are right. He couldn't cope with the deterioration and now eats eggs. Eggs are the gateway foods to omnivore eating.
Regarding WEIRD BELIEFS: The thing I’ve always found so weird is that I never get how vehemently opposed people are to the idea of reducing suffering to animals and what seems really f’ed (regarding the weirdest ideas against veganism) is that a growing number of people think NPCs/normies are like reincarnated cattle and on that basis, they don’t deserve any respect because of the troubles they have got us into (now I get that last part about feeling resentment towards normies and NPCs regarding them leading us into the Clownmumist world we see before us) but, I feel as though - part of the reason their identity is wrapped up in their diet and passed off as ‘true Paganism’ even though I think true pagan’s would aim to find a less destructive way of living their life if there is an option to eg pagans that live in a developed world likely wouldn’t resort to animal blood sacrifice for magic, they’d find other more abundant sources that don’t involve animal cruelty. So I think part of the reason they eat meat as if it’s part of their identity in a developed country, is because they want to identify as having been reincarnated from a carnivorous/omnivorous animal be abuse they associate that as being ‘the best’ so I see that as fitting with that ‘blood lust’ idea yet, yet do they understand that, like how a truly strong man doesn’t hit woman, being humane does not mean being weak. Otherwise, they can identify as psychopaths if they want to go down that rabbit hole (led by their own stupid egos). And regarding the ‘soy boy’ feminization via soy… what the heck do they think the majority of the soy crops get fed to? If China are gonna try to get us with communism (which I myself am very much open minded to) what the heck do most Asian countries include in their diet through years of bloodshed and war… have they heard of soy f’ing sauce to name just one source of ‘soy’ - and which hormones would actually have an effect on a human’s body more? Plant hormones or animal (growth) hormones… don’t most dairy cows look big. Last rant, people have so much cognitive f’ing dissonance: take for instance the nonce who says ‘but dairy farmer’s here care for their cows as they would their dogs… they comfort them through the night when they are giving birth then mill them humanely ‘ (as if they’d use the word ‘humane’ death if not euthanasia when talking about their pet cats/dogs- as dissociatively woke and virtue signalling as the hypocritical snowflakes that go over to Asian countries to protest dog killing when they themselves still eat ‘cattle’. NONCES! 😂
I wholeheartedly believe antipsychotics would give you a far better quality of life.
THE VERASITY OF EXCUSES
The reason to eat meat and it’s associated fat is that it is the species appropriate diet for humans. Some people can exist on a vegan diet, but no society exists or has ever existed on it.
The Paranthropus did exist on a vegan diet but they went extinct.
The Texan's argument about bloodlust is probably a bastardization of the idea that wild dogs or hunting dogs (and probably other carnivorous animals) will develop of sort of bloodlust when they taste their first fresh kill. I think even domesticated dogs are like this if they kill a cat or something. They become more aggressive and start seeking out other things to kill.
Dogs are omnivores, but true
Bloodlust is a complete myth. I have hunting dogs that do crop protection. They won't kill anything unless they're told to do so. Imagine if police dogs had to be euthanized every time they took down a criminal. It's ridiculous.
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LEYKIS 101 !!!
I used to have a pony myself and i love horses, i do not think that having ''farm'' animals is inheritly bad if you have animals just so they can have a good life and you enjoy having animals arounf to me that is fine.
but having animals and using them for what they can give you in terms of food or drink THAT is where i got a problem with it.
one day i really wanna have a big farmstyle house with a big piece of land and i will have cows and horses sheep chickens you name it
and they can all live there and enjoy their lives ^^
hey perhaps start a animal therapy ''farm'' where you can come and give the animals a gr4eat big hug ,feed them play with them.
sounds amazing right ? ^^
The only argument against veganism is that you don't have to exploit animals to consume them. If I die from a heart attack, why would it be unethical to consume my body?
Ill put that solid argument with the 'Alone on a desert Island tho?' one :D
You’re a human, and generally culturally your relatives would prefer you had a culturally appropriate funeral and/or burial.
I don't want my diet to be based on lectins and antinutrients.
Yes, you want it based on meat which gets you cancer :)
Here's my reason why I'm not vegan, I'm weak, I suck, The Taste is too good that I'm too weak to stop, I'm a hypocrite, I can't help myself. I've watched many of Ed videos and Joey Carbstrong's videos and I'm trying making the change but I just haven't been able to do it.
Don't try to "get rid of meat" at first. Try to find as many plant based options as possible. They have to be things you actually enjoy eating. Eat more and more of these plant based meals. Get rid of all of the animal based food you don't love. If there is anything you feel like you can't live without, like chocolate or pizza, be vegan except for those foods. Going vegan was hard for me and it took me more than a year to do it and these is how I did it. Remember that a mistake yesterday doesn't justify a mistake today and try your best.
You become a vegan slowly, not overnight.
i like the taste of fruit, it's a personal choice to eat fruit:)
Well it may seem like the same arguments, when you only show debates on your channel that make you look good.
If you actually watched his channel he faced several people with good points against his . Stop being biased
@@CollagenExpert I'll wait until he delves into scientific data, instead of the usual philosophical interviews with students and tv hosts who are clueless about nutrition.
@@Bill-ni3es he has many videos that cite scientific studies, lmao, seethe milky boy
@@niken538 he cherry picks most of his data and conflates it as conclusive and consensus, Then regurgitates the same talking points built on this false premise.
@@Shamrock299 what part of he cites scientific studies you didn't understand, you can read all the trials, meta analysis, RCCT's, epidemyological and statistical studies he cites by yourself, I do that AND that's why I believe what he says, his videos are a mere introduction to the science. It is obvious that you can do a 2 hour video breaking apart certain studies, just no one beside scientists would watch it