HOW'S QUALITY OF COROLLA CROSS HYBRID? 5 REASONS WHY COROLLA CROSS HYBRID IS A BETTER BUY THAN RAV4
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Automotive Engineer David Chao believes that the all-new 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid is a better buy than the RAV4 Hybrid - specifically providing 5 reasons why believes this is the case. David in fact owns two RAV4s right now (Hybrid and Prime), so he is able to compare the Corolla Cross Hybrid directly and able to deduce what pros & cons might exist between the two models. Watch his entire video to understand why he thinks that for most people, the Corolla Cross Hybrid makes more sense.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston. - Авто та транспорт
David, no one can touch your reviews, not close. Your knowledge an in-depth evaluation is second to none.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Thanks, David. Impressive review. Especially measuring the thickness of the paint, and the build quality. Great review !
Thanks for recognizing that for some of us, smaller is better. We will be choosing between the Cross & the Lexus 250h
I agree I just got this cross XSE yesterday will be getting it in two weeks I live in Canada and suv is more common and I didn’t really want to go get rav4 or crv
Exactly. Which did you buy? I am seriously considering the Lexus.
Just got my 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE last week! Soooooooo good! Rav4 to big, consider Honda. CRV to large and HRV Hybrid not offered in USA. I am so happy with my purchase. Thank you for the excellent reviews
I love this video. Been looking at Rav4 for a month but this video was very informative and starting to think that CC is better for me.
Thanks for the video! ❤
Another excellent and informative video, thank you David!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for pointing out those differences. I always feel that an Engineer’s perspective goes a long way!!! much appreciate the review and insights. I am looking forward to test driving the Toyo Cross Hybrid.
Thanks alot,your reviews are very inciteful.
Your analysis are very up to date, relevant & what the listener wants to hear in this particular vehicles.
Thank you for this review. Had my eyes on Rav 4 hybrid for a bit now but the pricing has become ridiculous the last couple years. This offering is a good price and the size will work better for our family.
Thank you for your review. As a 65 year old approaching retirement, I am looking to slightly downsize from the Mazda CX5 to a Toyota Cross. The hybrid version is my choice and I’m looking forward to a test drive myself before I make my final decision. Thanks again for the informative video. eATX
Excellent review..Never seen anyone do a paint thickness test before.. good to know.
I was stuck between this and RAV4 Hybrid but went with an order for a RAV4 Woodland. I think the stiffer suspension will be nice and our roads are poor with some rural and camping access driving. I’m a little taller for the Cross’ interior. Nice review and I appreciate quality builds as well David.
Can't take this car anywhere without ability to stow a spare tire. Whoever put the electrical connector in the middle of the spare tire well should be fired.
Appreciate the informative video. Have had seven Subaru's and a couple Kia's in my past, just came across this vehicle, and in turn you. I've joined your channel and look forward to future videos.
Nice work...not any fluff...just helpful information..thanks
Great video. Thank you for sharing your points of view.
Dave, it was very informative. Thank you.
Just stumbled on your channel. Great review. We have set our sight on a RAV4 and are now going to test drive the Cross because of this video. Thanks. BTW. Subscribed!
Great review. Thank you.
Good points. If a spare tire was included it would be even better.
Hi Dave! I’m curious if paint thickness remains consistent regardless of colour choice? I like the exterior overall look of Corolla Cross but Toyota interiors are typically a bit of a disappointment for me. Thanks for another informative video 👍🏻
David I just recently found your channel, and have thoroughly enjoyed the content. One suggestion is to measure fitment on both sides of the hood,to give the viewer a better idea of the uniformity of the gaps(like you do at the front and back of the door).
David awesome job explaining the 5 advantages of the Corolla Cross Hybrid. You have 100% opened my eyes to go & test drive this newer updated more car.
Great to get your feedback from having owned numerous Rav 4 yourself. This is invaluable expert advice from an avid Rav 4 owner .
>both sides of the hood, to give the viewer a better idea of the uniformity of the gaps
He probably had done that, but didn't include that footage in video to avoid video becoming too long.
Very useful to receive your perspective on the Corolla Cross Hybrid.
RAV4 & Corolla cross are both nice cars. Tough choice. We have RAV4 for 3 years and love it. Beautiful cruiser and surprisingly easy to drive given it’s large size. Feels like it could last years as the hybrid system seems to take all the stress out of the engine at start off speeds. Just eases off the lights and before you know it you’re at 30-40mph. No drama. It has that relaxing feeling for both driver & passenger.
I rented one of these built in Huntsville and I loved it. Makes me want to buy one. Great video!
Great review!
terrific review. thanks.
I love the size and safety features. I really miss my Element when trying to find a parking place for my 2017 Sienna. Hope there is a Corolla Cross hybrid in my future soon. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for your video. I was between the two cars and you made a lot of wonderful points that helped me with my decision.
You are doing great toyota consumer choice videos.
Please do (even a short) video on 2023 Corolla 'Cross' Hybrid versus 2023 Prius Hybrid
Thank you very much, David 🙏
100% agree on size. The Rav4 and more or less all of its contemporaries (e.g. CR-V) have kept growing over the years, presumably to 1-up each other on all the measurements (legroom, cargo capacity, etc.). It is to the point where I will be forced to look at a smaller class for my next purchase.
Let's just I've gone from Highlander Hybrid to RAV4 Hybrid, and I'm planning on getting a Corolla Cross Hybrid next. The new Highlander seems HUGE to me now.
Nice sensible, down-to-earth analysis and review. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
As a big Lexus sedan owner, I never thought i'd say this: I'd buy this car in a heartbeat!! the interior really appeals to me. it's a 4-cylinder, 196 HP. & with the TOYOTA reputation for quality built engines, this car is perfect for most people. ( i'd buy that silver one in the video. )
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You obviously haven’t driven one. Noisy box at Highway speeds.
The luggage racks would have to go, lots of wind noise.
Thanks! Great analysis.
Thank u for providing very interesting info that others do not mention. I also agree w u that today's cars are becoming unnecessarily bigger every year.
David, thanks for the review of the Toyota Corolla Cross. I wasn’t aware it offered so much. I think I will consider it for a purchase option.
Consider all you want. You can't buy one till 2025
This was really great info!
great info on a car you can't buy till 2025
I always appreciate your expertise
Thank you
As always 😊
Great review, you've actually convinced me to seriously consider the Corolla Cross Hybrid as opposed to the RAV4...coming to you from NZ
Nice review. You forgot to mention 3 important points, two against and one for the CC hybrid: 1) CC h has a much smaller gas tank than the RAV4 H (40 vs 55 L), so much less range considering that their EPAs are very similar; 2) in Canada, roof rails are ONLY available on the top XSE trim; 3) one advantage in on opinion for the CC hybrid is that they put the high voltage MGR cable connector in the trunk, shielding it from the elements.
yeah, this is more like the og rav4, which i love back in the days. But we got the rav4 coz now I got a growing family. Great review. Thanks.
This is the 2nd car review I have seen from you. Excellent, to the point and interesting review! Subscribed.
Think this car is perfect for many. Probably highly reliable, economic, practical and looks (imho) very good too.
We have a much bigger car, but it 90% of the time it is driven by wife to commute to work. To accommodate the kids, we would need a Highlander or RX.
How’s everything going?, Automotivepress!you shared outstanding - ))
Thank you!
Wow! Been thingking in the past which is which, now you helped my mind. Thanks Sir. 😊
Wow. I review that actually uses some science and measurement for comparison. Who would have thought. Very much appreciate the review. We've been looking at the Rav 4 and did not even consider the Corolla Cross Hybrid which I think is due for consideration. Thank you.
Another very informative video. Thank you for going to the time to break out some of the details in the comparison with the RAV4 would like to Get ur opinion on the Honda
HR-v and make a case which one is better
Keep up the good work 😊
Thanks for the insight
Excellent comprehensive review. I’ve using Toyota for years and Looking forward to trying this car!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info
Very informative.
Very good review.
There is a person that lives on my street that has a mint condition gen1 RAV4. It may be smaller than the Carolla Cross. Funny how models grow right out of their category. Interesting review.
I'm getting one of these assuming the pricing remains reasonable. I'm concerned about that though because I don't think Toyota is going to be able to keep up with the demand for this. It makes the non hybrid version absolutely obsolete. Their plan to do 30% of Corolla Cross production in the hybrid is misguided. They need to flip that and do 70% hybrid.
agree, fuel efficency aside, hybrid drives so much better
$32K seems reasonable, but Toyota of Kirkland tacked on another $7K for "dealer installed options", also known as "dealer profit".
@@elhoward7440 dealers are the scum of the earth, total scammers
I bought one and the l non hybrid has a 50 day wait it’s perfect size these should be selling like hotcakes
Just got a black one xse hybrid 2 weeks ago after waiting for 3 weeks turned out to 47k here in Florida
Your analysis are very very good & 5 reasons are excellent. Don’t you think it’s a little under power ??
Hi! Thanks for the review, I'm waiting for the Corolla pickup or stout may I say
Hi Dave. You have sold me just by the paint thickness discussion and the 3.0 safety feature. You should get paid well by Toyota. This will be my next vehicle. Thank you Dave.
Good review, all these points make sense if you are in the market for a smaller more economical and cost effective vehicle.
Interesting perspectives, Dave. Our Primary vehicle is a Highlander. Looking for a run around car in a shore town. I loved the Corolla Cross the instant I sat in it. However that no spare tire thing may be a deal breaker.
If you really want one just buy a spare tire and leave it in trunk for long trips. Even for daily driving who really fills up the cargo capacity?
We were lucky to get a 23 Rav4 limited hybrid as someone cancelled an order. Fancier and more than we needed, but we were glad to get any hybrid. The Corolla Cross seemed nice if kinda small for us, but none were available. Wish we could have found a Prime, but those are truly unobtainium.
The 23 limited hybrid is the exact same as the 22 limited hybrid except for one small change to the infotainment system
Very nice analysis of the Toyota Carol Cross.
Great review. Thanks
I've been shopping for a Rav4, and hadn't even considered a CorollaCross. But you've convinced me to take a look. How is the engine noise at freeway speeds? Better than the Rav4 and Corolla hybrids?
Nice points of view! People said the CCH was noisy and a bit shaking when you accelerated it, Is that true?
Good review
Nice video. Not a generic view like most others. i wonder if the new Forester will be as good. This would be my next car on the used market unless the Forester is better. We need more subcompact small wagons and SUVS.
I think your assessment is correct. Boundaries have shifted a bit over the years and with new models. The Cross is a like an urban-friendly version of the RAV4. The Grand Highlander, IMO, is a true, ideal Highlander. I think the middle models are in a muddle right now: the Venza, RAV4, and regular Highlander. IMO, the Venza and Highlander distinguish themselves with higher quality interiors, with the Highlander possessing a more roomy interior and greater ride height, and the Venza best suited for frequent highway travel. For the RAV4, stylistically I think it should go in the direction of the FJ Cruiser, and be more like a junior hybrid 4Runner for suburban living and frequent camping. I think the 4Runner could take a few cues from the FJ Cruiser as well.
The new Landcruiser Prado will replace the FJ cruiser. Not sure if they will have a new design than global platform for just north america.
Venza's target customers are senior citizens. I haven't seen someone under the age of 55 driving it.
@@irandude1655 not true, the venza is more orientated to younger buy too. Because it a lexus. Yes more older people will buy it because they want luxury. More older people like the old venza better for getting in too. The new venza is much smaller!!
Thx David well done.
For a little bit more, RAV4 have a better cost / performance. It was missed to mention that the trunk capacity of the Corolla cross is way smaller than the RAV4
This is a big reason why I'm sticking with buying a RAV4 Hybrid.
What you planning to put in there? Majority of ppl I see with SUV are mostly empty. Not even bottle waters for emergency, a screwdriver, extra clothing,baseball cap. If you transport stuff like me why need a bigger vehicle.
Not everyone has the same lifestyle. Different people have different needs.
I’m thinking that it also lacks a spare tire.
Cool video
Good job.
If I could own a small fleet of cars as you do Dave, I would like a Corolla Cross hybrid 😊 I can definitely see how efficient and easy it’d be to live with in the city.
i bought the non-hybrid Cross for my daughter as her first vehicle to use as she is going off to college in a small-to-medium sized town. I plan to purchase the hybrid model for myself since i live in a bigger city.
Thanks David, I will keep a hold of my '23 Rav4 XLE Premium Hybrid... It suits me :)
Great review. Any numbers on cabin quietness compared to similar vehicles?
I forgot the channel, but they were saying it’s quieter. There is more sound deadening materials.
Nice review but it did not include even a quick overview of the exterior and interiors. I’ve heard the cargo area of the CC is much smaller than the RAV4. It would be nice is someone could give a national (U.S.) overview of Toyota model availability. Here in S. Fla. they have zero cars on the lots.
Good stuff
I agree with you! I had rav 4 2019 then i drove corolla cross. Corolla cross was much better to drive and it felt solid and quite
I just bought a 2023 ford escape AWD hybrid but next tear when its time for my fiancee to upgrade her vehicle we will look at the corolla cross hybrid. Im curious how it compares in size to my escape hybrid.
You've convinced me to buy one.
Does it take a full size spare like the RAv 4. Essential information
Is it possible that since this car is newer they are still ironing out how to be efficient with the paint? With that said does it make sense to check another model in 6 months
I would assume this is a press car since the hybrid is not out yet. As someone who also is an automotive engineer the press cars are messaged to the nth degree for things like panel gaps, paint, interior fit and finish, etc. We have even gone so far as to remove seems and had vehicles completely repainted. Those vehicles are gone over with a fine tooth comb and should never be taken as representative of true production cars especially for things like paint and panel gaps.
Your other points are completely valid.
Very insightful, we consider a Corolla Cross
Hi David, could you compare Toyota Corolla cross and Subaru cross trek 2.0 litre engine 2024 model ?
As for the size comparison between the two, for me what counts the most is the interior space. The Toyota website doesn't provide certain dimensions for the Corolla (for example, cargo space). Having sat in both, is the difference noticeable?
What I understand it's very noticeable in the back seat.
Nice through review!
looking back, the two door first gerenation RAV4 seems so cool now
Currently own 2016 Rav4 & will keep as trouble free auto. For second auto Cross would fit our needs. Wait time for Hybrid Cross ? Think regular Cross underpowered. Thanks for excellent review. Time frame to decide late fall 2024 so would like to see what in store for in new Rav4 & availiblty of Cross Hybrid. 👍😎🇨🇦
David, I am concerned about road and wind noise with the new Cross Hybrid. Some reviews have indicated it is noisier inside underway than the RAV4 which is not particularly quiet..can you or others please comment on this..
does it get a lot of wind/road noise? thanks.
How does the AWD compare to the Subaru Crosstrek? The Corolla Cross has a different set-up, I believe (?) I'm in the US (NE) and drive in the snow, so AWD in the Corolla is a concern of mine.
Can you pls make a review about 2023 Mitsubishi RVR GT thank you
Thank you for the excellent analysis. A bit off topic... Do you have any contacts at Toyota? Could you please tell them to pay more attention to the front overhang? It looks excessive, disproportional to the rest of the car (just look at any front 3/4 shot in the video). Toyota has the engineering know-how to solve that; they used those techniques in the iQ.
How do you like the RAV4 prime? Do you think it’s worth the extra money? I assume you will have to keep a long long time to recoup the extra cost to purchase and how long will the batteries last? What level charger do you use with your prime? Thanks for your videos.
I don’t think so. It’s just as loud as plasticky as the cheapest LE model that’s about 20k less. You would think for the money, they would give it a little
bit of a special treatment(maybe add some more premium parts and more sound insulation) but they don’t!
Its definitely faster........almost supra fast
An interesting comparison but we clearly rate features very differently. I cannot accept a vehicle which features a 'repair kit' over a spare tire. The Rav4 Hybrid has room enough for a full spare and, given the amount of backwoods driving I do, this isn't a negotiable issue. Plus, I find the Rav4 to be at the low end of acceptable interior height and cargo space - the Cross, even though it is just a few inches lower and narrower, isn't as spacious or convenient per my actual usage. As always, match the vehicle to your intended use! For instance, I was disappointed by the meager towing capacity (on both the Cross and Rav4 Hybrid) which made little sense given the chassis, mount points and Toyota tow bar are rated at 5,000lbs. I ended up buying, in 2021, the Rav4 Prime SE and appreciate the power (302hp), towing capacity (2,500lbs) and fuel economy (84.5 mpg combined, which includes out-of-town excursions to a cabin up in the mountains). The fit and finish is immaculate and after two years I have experienced no issues or problems other than a safety recall earlier this year. What surprised me about the Rav4 Prime was its value as a 'hybrid on steroids'. This works in two ways. First, the Prime can harvest far more power than the Hybrid (useful on long mountain descents) and second you can charge the battery from the engine then use the extra power for passing on uphill gradients. The Prime literally charges up mountain roads! It is, quite impressive.
Would I buy the Prime today? Not sure. I believe the Federal Tax rebate ($7,500) has gone because the Prime is built in Japan. Not sure what the situation is with other PHEV's but this would seem to be a major disincentive to consider a Rav4 Prime. As for the handling, well there's not much I can do about the electric steering, but the suspension and tires on the Prime could be rethought. It is clear that in adding extra batteries, Toyota had to 'crank up' the suspension to accommodate the under-chassis batteries, without sacrificing clearance. Unfortunately the Prime really needs a suspension re-tune, but having driven a 2024 model year Rav4 Prime XSE it appears this is 'needs more work'. The Cross felt better on the road but that's just a subjective impression.
The hybrid tow capacity is low due to the extra strain it puts on the electric motor which powers the ECVT, that's the reason for this as I understand.
I want to buy a new car and have 2 choices which I can't decide. Ford focus active x station wagon hybrid vs Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid. What do you suggest? Overall which is better?
Really like the Prime versions offered by Toyota. But all seems a bit overpriced or not available. But Corolla cross hybrid seems to be a convincing option with quality, usability, and quantity not being an issue.
Where can I get one of your gap tools?
Ty!