2022 Toyota Corolla Cross vs Subaru Crosstrek AWD Off-Road and Snow

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
  • We test the capability of the new 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross XLE's Dynamic Torque Control all-wheel drive system. How does it compare against the 2021 Subaru Crosstrek Sport when the going gets tough? We test it in a common off-road setting to find out! Then it's time to play in the snow.
    #toyota #subaru #offroad
    CONTENTS
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:30 - XLE Features
    03:16 - Who is this for?
    07:20 - Corolla Cross AWD Off-Road Test
    12:44 - Subaru Crosstrek Sport Off-Road Test
    15:08 - Corolla Cross AWD Snow Test
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    @mikeoxlong3676 2 роки тому +137

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    That was a great quote. I like it.

    • @vitor2650
      @vitor2650 2 роки тому +4

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    • @BurnsRubber
      @BurnsRubber 2 роки тому +5

      Or any rental…

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      @ronaldmcdonald3965 2 роки тому

      They will take you as far as they can.....the end.

  • @justthought2152
    @justthought2152 2 роки тому +65

    Gotta say, you guys make the cleanest videos in car review segment. Love it and very much appreciate all the effort. Being from BC myself definitely know the weather struggle.

    • @sshah2545
      @sshah2545 Рік тому +3

      You must love ICBC too

  • @chetanjiva8874
    @chetanjiva8874 2 роки тому +16

    I like that you cover more important espacts that other journalists are afraid to even try. All wheel drive is one thing that we rarely see being tested so soon after a launch of a vehicle. Your experience and recommendations are very valuable to someone thinking of buying a new vehicle. Some of us care more about what's underneath then all the leather coverings and how big the screen on the vehicle is.

  • @dj331
    @dj331 2 роки тому +2

    A another snow test😀 keep em
    coming! Brilliant as always.

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Рік тому +13

    Ryan, I’ve been driving Toyota’s for 40+ years. My current car is a 11 Rav 4WD Limited with a 3.5 V6. I Love my Rav.
    But after buying my wife an Outback last November (2022), we discovered that the Subaru is so much more car over my Rav.
    The Subie is planted on the road.
    We have no problem going over Blewitt pass or snoqualmie pass .
    This fall we will be buying Falken Wildpeaks.
    We live in the mountains between Cashmere and Dryden on a private road that we have to plow and maintain.
    When my Rav wears out I’ll be replacing it with either a Forester or an Outback.

    • @busu6153
      @busu6153 Місяць тому

      Replace it with a Land Cruiser...Subaru it's a exceptional car, but it's transmission very expensive to maintain!

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 Місяць тому +1

      @@busu6153 I actually decided to replace it with a new Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the Premium and Technology pkgs.
      I decided on a 23 because I heard that the redesigned Tacoma was going to be a Turbo.
      Historically, Turbo engines simply don’t last as long as a naturally aspirated engine.
      My TRD has the same 3.5L V6 (with more horsepower and torque) that was in my RAV.

    • @busu6153
      @busu6153 Місяць тому +1

      @Doc1855 interesting. I wish you to be happy with the choice that you made. 🥰
      Wish you good roads and no problems.
      I am stuck between chosing Corolla Cross or RAV4. Both AWD. I don't live in a mountain area, I live in the urban side, but, at the same time, I still want that AWD because I had one and I like it. I had Dacia Duster 1.5 dCi 4x4, and sometimes I gotta have fun :))
      I know I can't compare them, but it's just about the concept, having a 4x4/AWD.
      Sometimes I am jealous on the people that live outside Europe, because they can afford easily bigger cars, with bigger engines. But, at the same time, we have what we need for our regions.

  • @TheDmanMA
    @TheDmanMA 2 роки тому +6

    love your stuff... i just bought a Crosstrek today.

  • @Central-Scrutinizer
    @Central-Scrutinizer 2 роки тому

    This is the best UA-cam channel ever. Between you, Car Question, Engine Adventures and TFL I'm getting most of my answers.

  • @AThirstyPhilosopher
    @AThirstyPhilosopher 2 роки тому

    Wow. I came for the review. Stayed for the driving tips. Canadian winters are awful. Thanks for this video!

  • @garthhowe297
    @garthhowe297 2 роки тому +147

    I have owned a number of AWD Toyota's and Subarus. They are good enough to keep you moving under most road conditions, but not for actual off-road use. The Cross with no-season tires did remarkably well in that deep snow.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 2 роки тому +11

      I call them 3 season tires.

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 2 роки тому +21

      Subaru vehicles tend to do well, besides extreme off-road stuff but that's where you'll get a jeep/bronco/4runner not a Subaru lol
      their awd system is fairly advanced vs competitor like we see here where it outperformed Toyota

    • @shawn576
      @shawn576 2 роки тому +27

      @@octoslut Subaru tends to kill the competition in snow and ice because their system is NOT advanced. The center differential is a simple fluid coupling that predates WW1. It doesn't turn on and off, it's on all the time, it's always working. Vehicles like the Honda CRV were notorious for sucking because they would be FWD until slip is detected, and then complicated fuckery would try to engage the rear wheels, and it would always be done in the most half-assed way possible.
      Similarly, sports cars have excellent limited slip differentials that are purely mechanical. There's no lag because there's nothing to turn on - it's always on.

    • @z1az285
      @z1az285 Рік тому +4

      @@shawn576 Thanks for the info. I was considering purchasing a Corolla eAWD hybrid and from what you mentioned, it's exactly the same thing as the Honda. Not going to work in the northeastern US. I will see if there is an option for decent snow tires but if not, not going to bother. Thanks once again

    • @phatgringo2.0
      @phatgringo2.0 Рік тому +7

      So many of his videos are worthless because he's using OEM junk tires. He should use AT and/or winter tires.

  • @keltonjohnson6197
    @keltonjohnson6197 2 роки тому +45

    Great choice for a comparison :) somehow you keep the good content rolling out. You’ve gone up my list of favorite car channels over the last couple months to be definitely top tier.

  • @wushock92
    @wushock92 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this comparison, Ryan. Precisely what I was searching for.

  • @beto5.016
    @beto5.016 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, I've been waiting for this one.

  • @edsmith9855
    @edsmith9855 2 роки тому +23

    Nice test, really enjoy your videos, best on youtube IMO. The Corolla Cross is OK in the lower trims, but at over 30k for a loaded one, there is simply too much competition. Kona Ultimate, CX-30 (close to CX-30 turbo price), Bronco Sport, and of course the Crosstrek with the 2.5L engine. For the price of your test vehicle, you could even move up to the next class: CX-5, CRV, RAV-4, Forrester.

    • @staceys1870
      @staceys1870 Рік тому +1

      Yes, here in SoCal, they want a bit over 36,000 for a Cross XLE. I am now hesitating. Would the base Rav 4 be a "better" bet? I can't go more than that financially. Any thoughts?

  • @AftermathCanada24
    @AftermathCanada24 2 роки тому +7

    2021 Subaru crosstrek owner here 🙋🏻‍♀️
    Yes, I so liking it!

  • @slocavky
    @slocavky 2 роки тому +2

    Great review and comparison.... Keep it up Ryan.. Love your channel still and look forward to your stuff every week.... Well done...

  • @jasper2771
    @jasper2771 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate good video quality and with more and more videos just being shot on Gopro I really appreciate the sharpness that comes from your videos

  • @rogerhook8002
    @rogerhook8002 2 роки тому +5

    Picked up my Crosstrek Sport today. Took three months to get one but glade to say it happened. Hope I like it. The first hundred miles driving home from the dealer was nice.

    • @martinr8278
      @martinr8278 Рік тому

      Great choice

    • @alyssamartinez4412
      @alyssamartinez4412 Рік тому

      How are you liking it now? I'm waiting to pick up my 2023 limited in a few weeks!

  • @toddh4491
    @toddh4491 2 роки тому +13

    Thanks again for these relevant and timely videos. I'm really hoping you get the Grand Cherokee PHEV soon as that's on my list of consideration. Appreciate your channel and driving real cars most of us can afford.

  • @Condor1970
    @Condor1970 2 роки тому +65

    All I know, is that the traction control in my wifes Legacy just seems to make all 4 wheels spin pretty evenly when backing out my steep driveway with 6" of snow without a hiccup. For a sedan, it's a beast in the winter. I really think Subaru has one of the best AWD systems on the market.

    • @naiemzamdin9823
      @naiemzamdin9823 2 роки тому +2

      man im impressed with subaru and not to brag but 6” nothing my subaru outback ate 13” of snow

    • @burnthecandleatbothendz
      @burnthecandleatbothendz 2 роки тому +4

      I took my crosstrek through 3 feet of powder in my parking lot after a storm ,it went through it with ease ,it helped having pavement underneath me but I was still impressed!

    • @BigMacIIx
      @BigMacIIx 4 місяці тому

      Subaru symetrical AWD makes car hovering like UFO on heavy snow road,... I love drive my 2017 6 speed Legacy in narrow mountain road when nobody wants to go outside.

  • @nickdills2031
    @nickdills2031 2 роки тому +1

    I bought our 14 XV Crosstrek brand new and still loving it. I’m still driving my 93 Impreza every where.

  • @LT-jc4qb
    @LT-jc4qb 2 роки тому +10

    Awesome unbiased review. Love watching your videos!

  • @Memetologist
    @Memetologist 2 роки тому +32

    I just got a Crosstrek Sport last month and I am loving the car.

    • @sacredsleeper
      @sacredsleeper 2 роки тому +2

      Until u blow a head gasket lol no thanks

    • @SynicalBeats
      @SynicalBeats 2 роки тому +2

      I've had my Crosstrek for about a year now and I love it. No complaints.

    • @SynicalBeats
      @SynicalBeats 2 роки тому +11

      @@sacredsleeper hey. Mechanic and Crosstrek owner here. You don't know what you're talking about.

    • @lr5081
      @lr5081 2 роки тому +2

      I just borrowed my friend’s crosstreck to drive up the Catskills mountains,loved the handling ,ride nice climate control,was very impressed.I own a civic ,so it’s like night and day,but my civic has gotten me everywhere,just not as smoothly!😁

    • @danielfair4675
      @danielfair4675 2 роки тому +1

      @@sacredsleeper lol, your knowledge is about a decade+ behind.

  • @blackbeargear8884
    @blackbeargear8884 2 роки тому +1

    Love your channel. It's why I grabbed a 21 Subaru crosstrek touring. It's been great

  • @TheLetsboogiedown
    @TheLetsboogiedown 2 роки тому +4

    Lots of auto journalism type UA-cam channels out there. This is one of the best. What works: little hype and drama. Well written. Great photography. I really appreciate the videography from the outside taken of the vehicles. Haven't seen the host pawning products. Just good tv.

  • @Aqwanermuk
    @Aqwanermuk 2 роки тому +4

    And this proves my point about that TFL Outback video... they didn't drive the Outback properly. It was essentially the same obstacle as this one, but they failed whereas you succeeded. I really appreciate the truthfulness and unbiased testing.

    • @subielife4life
      @subielife4life 2 роки тому +2

      TFL has beef against subaru, that’s why they purposely give negative reviews on Subaru vehicles….they hate Subaru so much that they actually buy Subaru vehicles just to talk shit on them…..

  • @just_levlup
    @just_levlup 2 роки тому +4

    I just love these videos!!! All of this is millions of views content! Everyone should watch these videos before buying any of these cars

  • @gemini6004
    @gemini6004 Рік тому +1

    Ryan, a very interesting opinion. I must admit that I experienced your driving in the snow as if I was sitting behind the wheel of this Toyota myself, remembering the winters in Europe of the 1960s. Today I greet you from Australia where winter snow is only in the mountains in winter.

  • @bentpolski
    @bentpolski Рік тому

    A GREAT Review I am interested in both of these! Thank You!

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 2 роки тому +30

    Think I would prefer the Subaru.

  • @thomasmeyers1286
    @thomasmeyers1286 2 роки тому +3

    Love your reviews. Really well done and much appreciated. Thank you so much.

  • @mpl1993
    @mpl1993 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome review! Thank you

  • @samaanam76
    @samaanam76 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoying your reviews 👌

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 2 роки тому +2

    Haha been waiting for this !! Awesome
    I own a Crosstrek so I'm not an impartial viewer lol

  • @waynerice4918
    @waynerice4918 2 роки тому +27

    Subaru does have the best AWD system. I would rather drive a Subaru if there's snow and rough roads. I do think that if Toyota had better tires it may have done better.

  • @nairolfnednilruz
    @nairolfnednilruz 4 місяці тому

    Always a pleasure your clips.

  • @miwandariz9512
    @miwandariz9512 2 роки тому +1

    I like watching your videos! Thumbs up! 👍

  • @86aidan31
    @86aidan31 2 роки тому +4

    I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021. Great video quality as well!

    • @bigfootswatching9986
      @bigfootswatching9986 Рік тому

      Buy the Crosstrek sport!~!

    • @86aidan31
      @86aidan31 Рік тому

      @@bigfootswatching9986 I got a premium. I wanted the manual and that was only available on base and premium models. Loving it though! Just hit 100 miles yesterday

  • @ashleykbarks
    @ashleykbarks 2 роки тому +64

    I bought a 2021 Subaru Forester last year and it's been a great purchase. Why do I keep watching your videos if I have no intention of buying a new car? Well, they're just fun to watch. And when you bring your Crosstrek in for the fun of it, it adds a layer of depth to the video (and for me, something to root for 😬). Great job with this Toyota.
    P.S. I love the gauge cluster on the Toyota, but I hate the way the infotainment system looks. It looks old to me, but some people think it is modern. Is there something wrong with me? 😂

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  2 роки тому +6

      The infotainment is pretty ancient by modern standards in the Corolla Cross. The new system is in the new Tundra, and will eventually trickle down... but it will take a couple years. Thanks for watching. 😀

    • @zmirc
      @zmirc 2 роки тому

      Same here

    • @1974gladiateur
      @1974gladiateur 2 роки тому +4

      Rust buckets that’s what they are the Subaru. The entire body and underneath of the vehicule will rust and brake in half. There is Subaru that are so rusted that they can’t be lifted because they will break in half. Lol 😂 Garbage I had a few Subaru and now just Toyota for a higher quality total.

    • @breakingballswithtony6897
      @breakingballswithtony6897 2 роки тому +2

      @@1974gladiateur Toyota is boring and just like we just watched you'll be bored and stuck. Good luck!!

    • @kirkwilson5900
      @kirkwilson5900 2 роки тому +8

      @@breakingballswithtony6897 been enjoying my boredom in my Toyota for almost half a million miles...lol do that in a subaru n after 10k in doing the head gaskets 4 times no thanks. I like subaru til 100k but Toyota for life ftw

  • @ruth1706521
    @ruth1706521 2 роки тому

    Love your channel in depth review wish you hit a million subscriber!

  • @MrCstrsm
    @MrCstrsm Рік тому

    This video was exactly what I needed to see. I have a 2017 Terrain AWD with no extra drive modes and it does what you have shown the Cross can do

  • @jaimieconroy36
    @jaimieconroy36 2 роки тому +7

    I used to have a 1979 Subaru Brat. The smallest truck ever made. It didn't have a lot of power, but it was very light. It had a manual transmission with a shift-on-the-fly 4 wheel drive. It was a very capable off-road vehicle that could navigate through stream beds and rough trails. I think it's short wheel base and light weight contributed to the Subaru Brat's ability to keep up with Jeeps.

    • @danettehamilton8013
      @danettehamilton8013 Рік тому +1

      I have an 85 brat. Great for roaming around the mountains but lacked power on the freeway

  • @mohammadrahman1862
    @mohammadrahman1862 2 роки тому +139

    Subaru has the best awd systems! However tires make a big difference.

    • @donaldwigglesworth5885
      @donaldwigglesworth5885 2 роки тому +9

      Absolutely! Tires make a drastic difference. I saw it first hand in my 2016 Forester.

    • @Toyota4Life
      @Toyota4Life 2 роки тому +13

      Subaru does not have the best AWD systems LOL

    • @HOTPLATEGAMING
      @HOTPLATEGAMING 2 роки тому +28

      @@Toyota4Life
      Better than Toyota’s AWD system. Toyota/Lexus by far has one of the weakest AWD systems out there.
      4WD system on the other hand is top notch.
      Remember AWD and 4WD are NOT THE SAME

    • @allroadsawesome
      @allroadsawesome 2 роки тому +11

      Subaru has really bad engines lately.

    • @Toyota4Life
      @Toyota4Life 2 роки тому +6

      @@HOTPLATEGAMING Lmdao dude. I would take a tundra TRD pro or 4 runner TRD pro. Or even a GR Yaris rally. Over any Subaru on sale ANY. Subaru only makes me one decent car away. Have a good day lol

  • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
    @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 Рік тому +2

    Have the AWD Cross, it has been great on the back desert dirt roads & mud, proper tires do make a difference. The Cross on dirt roads is highly underrated...

  • @daanprins6730
    @daanprins6730 2 роки тому +1

    You make amazing videos man

  • @24cupsandcounting
    @24cupsandcounting 2 роки тому +4

    I am thinking about leasing a new Crosstrek, never owned a Subaru but I have to say, every review I have seen about this vehicle is impressive. It comes in at a good price point and has plenty of the features that I would want. Great review btw.

    • @fredharvey2720
      @fredharvey2720 2 роки тому +3

      Subaru's AWD system is unmatched

    • @441meatloaf
      @441meatloaf 2 роки тому

      @@fredharvey2720 Unless its a Audi Quattro.

    • @billdoolen3948
      @billdoolen3948 Рік тому +1

      Have a 2018 crosstrek, first Subaru, absolutely a freak in the snow, when it snows its the only car we drive. Great car

  • @markeldamgaard
    @markeldamgaard 2 роки тому +10

    Subaru just simply has the best AWD for the price.

  • @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
    @LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS 2 роки тому

    Definition of a quality made video!

  • @johngeorgerm
    @johngeorgerm Рік тому

    Thank you Sir, really distinctive and on point video I found than any other video..because I'm thinking to upgrade my corolla Sedan SE to Cross XLE

  • @DTimm-zj3pd
    @DTimm-zj3pd 2 роки тому +18

    Great review, have a 21 crosstrek sport also. Put a LP lift kit and some KO2’s on it. Haven’t tried it off road yet and no measurable snow but seeing how your Sport did I have no worries and am looking forward to giving it a trial.

    • @ZepG
      @ZepG 2 роки тому +4

      I got KO2's for my FJ and they were the worst tires I've ever owned. They had the worst wet traction, worst snow traction, and squealed on dry roads. I took the loss and got the new Bridgestone Duelers with half the tread left on the KO2’s and my wife will actually drive the car again.

  • @nutbardrivers
    @nutbardrivers 2 роки тому +20

    I'd really like to see how these systems compare with systems from 10 or so years ago that used viscous limited slip rear and center differentials and compare the amount of power distribution compared to the brake-vectoring system.

    • @guardrail2897
      @guardrail2897 Рік тому +1

      No comparison. Our 1999 Forester would run circles around today's Crosstrek. Off-road that is.

    • @chrispnw2547
      @chrispnw2547 Рік тому +1

      @@guardrail2897 There have been tests performed on older 4WD vehicles and the new ones using advanced traction control systems using break vectoring and the modern systems were surprisingly better short of a Mercedes g-Wagon with Fr, Car, and Rear differentials. For the price (current) brake vectoring systems are great value for money. The 1st generation M-Class was a disaster because these were new technologies.

    • @guardrail2897
      @guardrail2897 Рік тому

      @@chrispnw2547 Torque vectoring is no comparison to a locking differential. There are many videos on UA-cam that show older Foersters vs. new Foresters and there's no comparison. The older is far superior.

    • @chrispnw2547
      @chrispnw2547 Рік тому +1

      @@guardrail2897 I was thinking more about a true off-road test I saw of several generations of Land Rovers against the new Defender, Land Cruisers, and Mercedes G-Wagens. The ability to move power where needed was impressive.

  • @louisvilaros9066
    @louisvilaros9066 Рік тому

    I just bought a 2023 subaru crosstrek 3wks ago and it texas we just had a sleet and freezing rain storm I didn't have any problems on the icey roads never spun my tires I did test drive the toyota cross I liked it but I didn't like the ride as much as the crosstrek the cross is a good looking cross over great video thank u

  • @MrKing1961
    @MrKing1961 Рік тому +1

    I think with winter tires that will be no problem to do it.Thank you for your reviews. keep those coming!!!!

  • @jeffreyjones5670
    @jeffreyjones5670 2 роки тому +8

    We just purchased a loaded Cross xle awd last weekend and are preping for a trip up mountains so this particular test was perfect for our upcoming trip! Definitely showed us this beauty's limitations in snow ice n mountain driving difficulties. Test results abit disappointing but we still recommend the new toyota cross because of all other fantastic features that come with our new $30k suv purchase! nice job👍

    • @xJADD
      @xJADD Рік тому

      Pls tell me how was that trip. I want to buy exact same model as you for road trips with ligth offroad. I would prefer a rav4 but is out of my budget.

  • @erwinandfire
    @erwinandfire 2 роки тому +3

    You know your videos are great when I'm riveted watching you review a car I have zero interest in buying

  • @adamrenissance3322
    @adamrenissance3322 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoy your channel. I remember seeing a video in which you were driving your 1991? Subaru Legacy? It would be great to see a track day or rally with your car.

  • @joes7930
    @joes7930 2 роки тому +1

    2016 cross trek lifted 1 inch with bfg at tires. Beast in the snow even though it’s only 148 hp.

  • @CamboTriton
    @CamboTriton 2 роки тому +32

    Best car review channel, by far. You deserve a million sub's, hope you get there.
    Seen a Corolla Cross on the road the other day, and it looks great. I just wonder if people will cry out loud that the Corolla Cross is dangerously under powered, and is a death trap. Just like they do to Subaru's. Or, will the mighty Toyota be praised for being slow, economical and a responsible vehicle for safe drivers. Lets see how they spin it.
    I'll keep buying Subaru's.

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 2 роки тому +1

      I'd buy a Subaru too if I had about 10,000 more to spend.

    • @GibbonsTake
      @GibbonsTake Рік тому

      How is the cross a death trap?

  • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
    @4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 роки тому +9

    There were a lot of rumours in Europe about Toyota Corolla Cross and new Suzuki S-Cross being twins. After all, "new generation" of S-Cross appeared to be just a deep FL, which luckily kept its All Grip Select awd system, working much better than this one from Corolla Cross.

    • @RKmndo
      @RKmndo 2 роки тому +5

      Suzuki had an AWD/4WD hatchback years ago...SX4, since about 2008. The center could lock, it had TCS, EBD, and VSC. Aftermarket support grew enough to provide suspensions, turbos, exhausts, intakes, skids, winchmounts, and LSDs. Then Suzuki Automotive left North America.

    • @sleeksilver
      @sleeksilver 2 роки тому +1

      I love your videos, friend!!!!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 роки тому +1

      @@RKmndo They replaced SX4 by SX4 S-Cross, which now is called simply S-Cross. But this car is bigger than SX4 was. Current Vitara is similar size to SX4 (the same wheelbase).

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 роки тому +1

      @@sleeksilver Thank you very much!

  • @patriot8087
    @patriot8087 11 місяців тому +1

    I agree with your analytical analysis, and opinions on this Video. It seems to be very objective and fair and not to bias considering you have a Subaru. Thank You! good job!

  • @WCTubeful
    @WCTubeful 2 роки тому

    Great review.

  • @waynerice4918
    @waynerice4918 2 роки тому +3

    The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are a very highly rated and has a snow peak symbol on the tire. And it's a tire you don't have to change every season.

  • @marounelhajj2668
    @marounelhajj2668 2 роки тому +4

    Subaru always. I have 2 subaru forester and there are awesome in off-road snow or mud

  • @esilviu2000
    @esilviu2000 2 роки тому

    Excellent video, as always! It will be also a review with off-road tests of the new Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i ? Thanks!

  • @Croiseeman
    @Croiseeman 2 роки тому

    We are a Toyota family, Tundra, Tacoma, FJ, Corollas, 4runner, we have them all. we do however own a 2020 Subaru STI, the awd on that car is just incredible, If I fail to mention this mention this, it is a fun car to drive.

  • @Ford_TImelord
    @Ford_TImelord 2 роки тому +19

    Corolla Cross looks great. Nothing against Subarus but after having Corolla alltracs and Tercel 4wds I am looking forward to the Hybrid version coming to the market here in Australia.

    • @edsmith9855
      @edsmith9855 2 роки тому +1

      The hybrid CC should definitely be an improvement, both in performance and fuel economy. Could be very attractive if the price is reasonable. As for appearance, it is a matter of taste, but I think the Crosstrek looks much better than the Corolla Cross. I just cant get past that huge grille. It looks like a giant catfish gasping for air.

    • @cacabeauty3693
      @cacabeauty3693 2 роки тому +1

      Taiwan has Cc hybrid, not sure Australia will get it or not

    • @Ford_TImelord
      @Ford_TImelord 2 роки тому

      @@cacabeauty3693 there has been talk of them releasing it here as hybrids make up around 40% of Toyotas sold here

    • @Ford_TImelord
      @Ford_TImelord 11 місяців тому

      @@edsmith9855 to be honest. I really like Subarus but I feel the hatch styling makes the rear seat and load space to small. I agree the grille is a bit much but the rest of it looks really good.

  • @davidsworld3603
    @davidsworld3603 Рік тому +14

    Hey Ryan, would love to see you review the Hybrid version of the Corolla Cross to see if it's really more refined and faster, if that's a possibility down the road.

  • @TM-uy4jg
    @TM-uy4jg 2 роки тому

    Great snow test

  • @tjj5337
    @tjj5337 4 місяці тому

    Excellent advice ❤

  • @generalcaeser9176
    @generalcaeser9176 2 роки тому +119

    As much off roading as I do, I can tell you that with all due respect, the AT tires that Subaru has is an unfair advantage and from what I saw, did make a difference. Tires are basically always a major factor in any driving situations where grip is a concern. In the end, I'd like to see you swap tires and repeat the test.

    • @edsmith9855
      @edsmith9855 2 роки тому +2

      AWD is ok, although I still think Subaru's is better. Main weakness is that it clearly needs a more powerful engine, especially in the more expensive trim levels.

    • @generalcaeser9176
      @generalcaeser9176 2 роки тому +4

      @@edsmith9855 I would be going for the Rav4 Hybrid so a larger engine wouldn't interest me. I hear you on the Subaru having a better AWD but come to find out that may not be the case any more. Check out some of the testing they do and you'll find that the Rav4 is coming out ahead and has in every recent video I've seen.

    • @edsmith9855
      @edsmith9855 2 роки тому +1

      @@generalcaeser9176 I was talking about Crosstrek vs Corolla Cross specifically in regards to Subaru having a better AWD system. Some Toyota models do have very good AWD systems.

    • @generalcaeser9176
      @generalcaeser9176 2 роки тому +2

      @@edsmith9855 Oh, I see. At first I was seriously considering those but then realized I really need more ground clearence with the amount of snow we get up north here.

    • @generalcaeser9176
      @generalcaeser9176 2 роки тому +2

      @@Embarrassed4U I felt that way for 25 years but there are just too many recent videos showing differently. I've owned loads of Subaru's and they are amazing but I've found them less reliable than Toyota's are. So I really like what I see on these new tests as it gives us both off road capability and better reliability.

  • @Liamo457
    @Liamo457 2 роки тому +25

    Yeah I would absolutely take the Crosstrek over that seeing how good they are in snow for the average person.

    • @BlueBackflip
      @BlueBackflip 2 роки тому +5

      Amazing in the snow. I was scooting up a hill in the CO mountains during a blizzard once while Audi's and Jeeps were pulled over or spinning out. Stock tires too.

    • @burnthecandleatbothendz
      @burnthecandleatbothendz 2 роки тому +2

      I just bought a 2022 crosstrek limited

  • @vihtoripuurola3775
    @vihtoripuurola3775 2 роки тому

    Ugh, a CVT. That's all I needed to hear. Good video and comparison.

  • @VirtualTo
    @VirtualTo 2 роки тому

    Thanks! I've been waiting for a comparison of those two. Where is the area you filmed this, please?

  • @swfan1004
    @swfan1004 2 роки тому +22

    The biggest thing with the Corolla cross that people are forgetting is….it’s a Corolla. Nothing flashy, just a standard car that’s perfect for the beginning drivers or just as a reliable daily commuter. As a Corolla owner myself of 8 years, this got me so excited but it’s sadly time to move on to bigger and better options. Maybe if I have the extra money I’d buy it for fun but who knows

    • @gelatinous6915
      @gelatinous6915 Рік тому +2

      Keep in mind the Crosstrek is also just an Impreza. They're both based on normal sedans.

    • @BaldKiwi117
      @BaldKiwi117 10 місяців тому

      ​@@gelatinous6915exactly! It's basically a lifted impreza. A nice awd package for someone who doesn't want an suv but wants more ground clearance.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 2 роки тому +5

    Ryan, It may not help ultimate traction but I am still hoping the Cross's Hybrid system is sourced from the RAV4 rather than the UX. At prices like this, an upgrade in performance is thoroughly warranted. In regard to the Crosstrek, a sale that goes to Subaru still ends with 25% of the money going in Toyota's pocket. If someone buys a Corolla Cross, Toyota gets more money but they have to go through the bother of actually building a car . 😉

  • @Mark-ou8nu
    @Mark-ou8nu 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @PC4ever
    @PC4ever Рік тому

    Really cool to see how the car drives in these situations.

  • @patrickbertlein4626
    @patrickbertlein4626 2 роки тому +6

    This is literally exactly what I wanted, to see how the Toyota does on our local forest roads. That and how comfortable it is to sleep in after price and MPG are the most important factors for me in buying a car. Maybe I will see you on a trail one of these days!!

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 Рік тому

      @Patrick Bertlein when it comes to price, you have to consider re-sale value too. The Crosstrek is best in class in that regard.

    • @BaldKiwi117
      @BaldKiwi117 10 місяців тому

      ​@@steve8803I don't think resale value is high on the list unless you don't keep your vehicles for very long.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 10 місяців тому

      @@BaldKiwi117 the average new car buyer gets a new vehicle every 5-6 years. Re-sale value certainly plays an important factor when determining total cost of ownership to these people.

    • @BaldKiwi117
      @BaldKiwi117 10 місяців тому

      @@steve8803 hence why I said it depends on how long you keep your vehicle... My last vehicle was purchased new and kept for 12 years.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 10 місяців тому

      @@BaldKiwi117 you're an outlier.

  • @wolfw6695
    @wolfw6695 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the Corolla cross off road test. Well done. I think I'll pass on the Corolla Cross....

  • @MadhuExplorer
    @MadhuExplorer 4 місяці тому

    awesome comparison

  • @myimperfectdiary890
    @myimperfectdiary890 2 роки тому

    I want both
    Vehicles. That is a great video.

  • @jconns9033
    @jconns9033 2 роки тому +10

    I’d love to see the same all season tires on the Subaru for a true comparison apples to apples! Tires make an incredible difference.

    • @seantanner4485
      @seantanner4485 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed... Huge difference between all SEASON and all TERRAIN!

  • @reikasdad
    @reikasdad 2 роки тому +28

    can you do a one-off special and show us some nice driving scenic routes around the PNW?

    • @ete5706
      @ete5706 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, please!!!

    • @matiasfaundez649
      @matiasfaundez649 2 роки тому +2

      Ohhh. YES PLEASE

    • @mrjon75
      @mrjon75 2 роки тому +1

      When I stayed in Renton Washington, I thought almost everything was a scenic drive.
      But I especially loved riding my motorcycle to Paradise.

    • @reikasdad
      @reikasdad 2 роки тому +1

      @@mrjon75 I live close to the border, and back before we had kids, my wife and I would try and discover the areas from Blaine down to Arlington. Really miss those days, and it the novelty has never worn off over the years. Pre-covid, I went down to b'ham literally every weekend not just for gas and groceries, but to enjoy some of the neat restaurants/cafes around the surrounding area

    • @mrjon75
      @mrjon75 2 роки тому

      @@reikasdad It's pretty magical out there. I hope to visit again sometime. Hopefully you can show your kids around there eventually.

  • @freedom_foz_6337
    @freedom_foz_6337 2 роки тому +2

    Great balanced review. It seemed as if the wheel articulation might be a limiting factor the Corolla Cross (words I never thought I’d say) lifted its rear wheel when he turned the small bump caused the rear wheel to lift

    • @johnmadsen37
      @johnmadsen37 2 роки тому +2

      Obviously. Toyota usually has excellent traction control. My highlander 2016, would do off road park stuff. Only climbs limited by the all season tires would limit it.
      New vehicles are extremely sorry for capabilities. The drive trains are the same, the brakes are the same. It’s all limited by the software.
      You could flash that Corolla and it would well.

    • @freedom_foz_6337
      @freedom_foz_6337 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnmadsen37 I love those highlanders! A guy out in AZ trails and modded his!! I agree I was hoping because it has a CVT and is “similar” to a trek aka Toyota owns part of Subaru the performance would be similar. The hybrid Rav AWD mapping is horrible… it could probably be a beast but the computer limits it…

    • @RKmndo
      @RKmndo Рік тому

      Locking diffs counter limited articulation quite a bit. Toyota needs to add a button for locking/clamping the center diff. TRD could also bring in more customers and revenue by offering a rear locker, some underbody armor, and a winchmount for off-road enthusiasts.
      SUPPORT YOUR CUVs, TOYOTA! There are more customers and money to be made!
      TCS is no substitute for traction diffs.
      Siped mudders help too.

  • @cheyenne3246
    @cheyenne3246 Рік тому

    What a unique review.

  • @james_the_darklord
    @james_the_darklord 2 роки тому +51

    I was going to get the Crosstrek over the Cross but decided against it for Subaru doesn't want to sell it to me MSRP and has a markup of over $5000. I just went ahead and ordered a Corolla cross and I got it at MSRP. Cross is bigger than Crosstrek too which I prefer.

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 2 роки тому +14

      Plus Toyota’s run for 500,000 miles + , while none of my 2 subarus passed 200,000 miles.
      My wife had a 1st gen RAV4 with 325,000 miles and she sold it 7 years ago, and the old lady who bought it still drivers every day.

    • @michaelsmith9308
      @michaelsmith9308 2 роки тому +2

      @@devil2jz500 yes, i googled it and crosstreks are good for 200,000 miles while toyotas are good for over one million miles!

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 2 роки тому +4

      @@michaelsmith9308 they are pretty optimistic with Subaru lasting 200k miles 😂. The boxer engine design isn’t very practical for maintenance neither. I can do a timing belt service on a Toyota at any parking lot with basic tools. Stick with Toyota

    • @amrashraf9559
      @amrashraf9559 2 роки тому +2

      @@devil2jz500 what subaru have you owned
      I am comparing between the corolla cross and subaru crosstrek..
      I am afraid from the weakness sheet metal of the toyota. It got dings very easily ..even the bumbers are not solid fitted and easily got disassembled from the car if got a small hit . How about the subaru solidity ?

    • @devil2jz500
      @devil2jz500 2 роки тому +7

      @@amrashraf9559 I owned a Forester and an Impreza. I have at least 20 friends who owned Subarus and they all either blew a head gasket or a rod through the block. Subarus are fun, but not reliable. I currently have a Corolla with almost 300,000 miles and still running like new. After I saw 2 Tundras with 1,000,000 miles and a Tacoma with 650,000 miles I only buy Toyota.

  • @nadaname391
    @nadaname391 3 місяці тому

    The more I watch your videos of comparisons, the more it confirms my purchase of going with the Subaru Forester Wilderness.

  • @gsxellence
    @gsxellence Рік тому

    I definitely see this as a direct comp to the Seltos; in your last review I remember the transmission would start to overheat. However, the overall look and package bodies make it a contender of old school '90s small Utes of old.

  • @MichaelNJohnson
    @MichaelNJohnson 2 роки тому +3

    As much as I despise SUVs, we just ordered a Corolla Cross FWD XLE in Cypress Green for my wife (our 2012 Mazda5 with 215k miles, is starting to incur expensive repairs. It was a FANTASTIC car though). The practicality, predicted reliability, and roomy backseats for our kids were too tempting to pass up.
    Like most buyers, ours will never leave pavement and winters are mild here in NC. We chose the XLE trim because our kids would destroy a cloth interior and for the middle armrest in the backseat.
    We paid $30k out the door. We considered moving up to the RAV4, but a similarly equipped (not base) model is roughly $5k more.
    Looking forward to receiving it in approximately 60 days.

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 2 роки тому +10

    So now that I've watched it
    I thought about waiting on purchasing a Crosstrek until these hit dealer lots. I've owned two Toyotas and like most people highly value the practicality and minimal need for repairs.
    Despite the Corolla cross looking super plain and already dated to me styling-wise I could easily have leaned that way, what held me back was the weak motor lower ground clearance and impression that the Crosstrek would be more capable off road. I do hiking and nature photography frequently so that's important to me.
    Nice to see my impressions were pretty accurate. With a few tweaks Toyota could have made this a Crosstrek killer but I think this while solid falls a little short. I think it'll be popular with families and older folks and nothing wrong with that.

    • @vitor2650
      @vitor2650 2 роки тому +3

      I’ve had the Crosstrek Sport since Oct 2020. While it’s 99% my daily driver, I have taken it to Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, Mammoth Lakes area, and to the snow at a local mountain area in So Cal. Last year when I went to Sequoia National Park, the car was fully loaded with 4 adult passengers along with 1 week’s worth of baggage and food and we traversed above 9,000 feet on the highway. I was pleased that I went with the bigger engine so I recommend you go with the sport or limited trim if your budget permits. I have not had any concerns negotiating dirt (even on small hills), rain, or snow. I made my choice, I was deciding among Rav4 Hybrid, Crosstrek, and Mazda CX-5 AWD. The Rav4 Hybrid has more overall horsepower and better fuel economy while the CX-5 AWD is more spacious but similar power; I went with the more capable softroad vehicle and although I’m never going to do any serious off-roading, it is more than adequate for my needs. Ryan’s review of his wife’s Crosstrek Sport influenced my decision. The only change I will consider is if Subaru offers a Crosstrek Wilderness edition; if not, I may go with the Forrester Wilderness.

    • @ShawDAMAN
      @ShawDAMAN 2 роки тому +1

      @@vitor2650 good synopsis. I've had the Crosstrek sport about 3 months now

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh 2 роки тому +3

      Some Corolla Cross shoppers might never go offroad so they aren't looking for high clearance.

    • @ShawDAMAN
      @ShawDAMAN 2 роки тому

      @@SayAhh right. I have no doubt they'll sell a ton of them.

    • @AP-br6dh
      @AP-br6dh 2 роки тому +1

      @@vitor2650 Nice comparison of the Rav4 hybrid, CX5, and the Crosstrek. I'm curious, did you considered the Forester? If so, why did you decide on the Crosstrek instead? I'm looking to get one of these - leaning towards the Crosstrek at the moment.

  • @EZapar
    @EZapar 2 роки тому

    I still have the magazine from your first time shooting at that park. Hatch Patrol!

  • @JoshConnectMedia
    @JoshConnectMedia 2 роки тому

    Josh Connect Media is here .... good content right here ..

  • @Kiss__Kiss
    @Kiss__Kiss 2 роки тому +12

    Okay, I am actually impressed.. With CRAPPY tires.. Well Done, Ryan.. Glad it's a Toyota (Usually over built).
    PS: Yes, Subaru does have a better awd system..

  • @vetteboy1024
    @vetteboy1024 2 роки тому +55

    I’m actually surprised it did so well. It’s certainly not an “adventure vehicle”. However if you have snow on the parking lot of Starbucks, you might be able to get out.

  • @michaelking42
    @michaelking42 9 місяців тому +1

    I've owned 7 Subarus. Currently have a 2023 Outback. Subaru's AWD is second to none.

  • @sammyt3514
    @sammyt3514 2 роки тому +1

    This was as informative, entertaining and well produced as any top TV auto program; kudos!

  • @tammyeaton4791
    @tammyeaton4791 Рік тому +6

    It kind of seems to me like the cross track is a bit underpowered for those hills that are a bit steeper and also pose traction issues. If you’re not doing a lot of off Roading that might require increased ground clearance and engine power, a Toyota Corolla cross might be a good option for someone looking for an affordable way to get about town when the weather gets nasty.

    • @onelove2349
      @onelove2349 Рік тому +1

      Why would you do that when the Subaru is better and cheaper?

    • @alexxu3004
      @alexxu3004 Рік тому

      @@onelove2349 kinda because when cross is released everything subaru and every other toyota are out of stock and lead time of a year

    • @Dontdoitguy
      @Dontdoitguy 7 місяців тому

      @@onelove2349and less reliable 😅

  • @1974gladiateur
    @1974gladiateur 2 роки тому +7

    I can assure you that you can’t compare the 2 systems. Subaru is a top contender while Toyota is in the middle.

  • @carlostavaresjr958
    @carlostavaresjr958 2 роки тому

    Great video! Towing capacity?

  • @jefflux400
    @jefflux400 Рік тому

    Great Review....say do you know the name of the music band in your video @ 7.50 in?