I just use Google Translate if I really need to... But yeah, it has English and if you set up your account to say that you're outside of Japan, usually it gives the option to use English by default. I used my Nintendo Network ID as a login which is a really cool option.
God, I never knew the fandom needed a video essay-type channel until I came across yours. Thank you for being such a great resource for beginner vocaloid fans, your content is amazing and I hope your channel grows even more than it already has.
"Five to eight songs I listen to on repeat whole riding the bus to school everyday" damn ubnub dont expose me and my illegally downloaded ievan polkka like that 😔
I would also like to clarify that NayutAlien had a UA-cam account a long time ago but it was taken down thanks to UA-cam’s horrible copyright system, and no attempt was made to remake it until this year, and thus most of his presence on UA-cam remains in fansubs. Please support the original artist when you can, everyone. Also, thanks for introducing Nicobox. I had no idea it existed.
10:35 (psst, IAイア is pronounced "ee-ah," not "I. A." :3) This is an amazing guide, I was never really that into Vocaloid when it was in its prime, but now I'm starting to find myself getting back into it, and I've always wanted to learn more beyond the basics. Thank you so much for this!
The biggest advice for new vocaloid fans is just try to find creators and styles you like. It can be hard to keep track of current stuff and feel included in the fanbase because of how reclusive the vocaloid community can be. Another thing for new fans is that they shouldn't feel ashamed if they dont know a famous song. Just find stuff you like.
@@goldandcheese Of course! That's your opinion, and you shouldn't feel forced to like something just because it's a classic. There are plenty of classics I dislike.
same, i luv hikarisyuyo so much 😭 one of my favorite producers ever. i always recommend him when people ask for vocaloid suggestions. he deserves a lot more attention 🥺
Soundcloud has quite a bit of Utau and Vocaloid and I was kind of surprised. In fact, I was on there the other day and a Shrek Utau came on my suggestions... You find a lot more niche stuff there.
I could've definitely needed this back when I first got into Vocaloid, lol. My main method was (and still is), UA-cam. What really restricted a lot of Vocaloid for me was that while I can enjoy a song while not knowing what it is about, knowing the lyrics makes me appreciate it a lot more. So my main method would be watching a video someone had subbed, and looking at the recommended if something interested me. I still do that, and that's how I found a lot of my favourite producers. People like VGperson, AmeSubs, OccasionalSub, and especially DescentSubs definitely helped me a lot with founding songs I enjoyed, and it's a shame that a lot of them stopped. But that's why I'm also so happy more and more Vocaloid Producers are getting UA-cam accounts! It's how I've gotten to check out famous producers like Mitchie M, PinocchioP and Wonderful Opportunity! A lot of them have english subtitles too. I'm glad you mentioned Project Diva as well. It's definitely a good way to get to experience new songs, which was why I loved Project Diva F2nd, the first gameI got so much. It just made me happy that they had english subtitles for a lot of songs. I'm sadly not a gamer, so I've only played F2nd, Mirai Deluxe and just recently got Mega 39's. I've loved them all, though none of them has been as good as F2nd imo. I just loved the gameplay, it was a lot of fun to play. I probably won't get Future Tone anytime soon, since from what I've seen the gameplay is fairly similar to Mega 39's, and it's just not that fun imo. Still like the videos though.
The sub accounts played such a huge role in the initial growth of the English speaking Vocaloid fandom. The comments were basically a forum and archive of everything. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels sad about the sub channels being gone.
What you didnt add to this video was subscribing to cover makers and translators. You have a chance to be introduced to new songs cover makers like ot get requested to. And with translators you get to see a myriad of songs across all genres and producers unless theyre bias to a favorite.
I ended up finding a lot of Vocaloid songs, new and old, through translators !! So yeah it really is a great way to find songs !!!! (Also also a lot of creators from niconico have UA-cam accounts now so subscribing to them works too + UA-cam will start suggesting more songs!)
I'm not the kinda person who needs to be on top of the scene at all times but I find the most common way I find new songs is from concert footage. Which is still mostly Crypton so probably not an ideal way to learn. I was pretty out of the loop between 2017 to 2019 so it was a good way to catch up so to speak
I already have my corner of vocaloid, but recently I purchased MegaMix and have been going through my Miku phase. I've also been trying to find newer songs and browsing NicoNico, so new producers have been popping up for me.
@@dezzydream you think you have left it. Then bam! You remember a song you used to love, decide to listen to it and ultimately fall into the rabbit hole that is vocaloid.
@@lookatthiscutekittyc2903 Haha this is exactly what is happening to me right now lol I left for a couple years but I keep finding myself humming songs and remembering playing Future Tone. I'm going to buy mega mix tomorrow as I'm going on a trip and having a portable game might be a nice way to come back to vocaloid.
a different way for me to discover new vocaloid songs is by following a lot of utaites i like. since they usually tend to cover a bunch of (popular) vocaloid songs. it's a good way for me to find out about new producers/ discover new music. for example: i discovered niru kajitsu & hiiragi kirai by listening to yuu miyashita's covers of their songs and plot twist, niru kajitsu is now one of my absolute favourite vocaloid producers. the same goes for syudou. my personal utaite recommendations: mafumafu, soraru, nqrse, luz, yuu miyashita, meychan, senra, uratanuki, shoose...
I'd like to give some suggestions too: -If you want more English (or other languages) Vocaloid songs, UA-cam is your best bet as Nico Nico mainly focuses on Japanese. -If you want more Chinese Vocaloid, BiliBili is your best bet. Though BiliBili's app is only in simplified or traditional Chinese, it would be a struggle (I can read Chinese so it's fine for me). UA-cam is also a good alternative but it's still rare. -Listening to covers/utaties, watching animatics and fan videos do potentially help with learning/discovering Vocaloid. There were certain anime fan-made PVs that did help me get into Vocaloid. It gave you the appeal as it's a language you are familiar with (covers) or a fandom you enjoy (animatics and PVs) -For certain producers, some of them have full albums on Spotify (maybe Apple music, but I use Samsung so I have no clue), I know n-buna, Kikuo and a few others have some. Some are on UA-cam like Wowaka's album (Not in his channel but its accessible)
On the Apple Music topic, it will restrict you to your location and not allow you to move location without effort and a VPN or the like. You can’t reliably get any songs, much less search for them, as it won’t prompt any results without a link. Essentially, Apple Music is just unusable for any foreign (or marked as such) music so I wouldn’t recommend going through that trouble.
On the topic of UA-cam, since that is my main resource, I learned a tip from another UA-camr, about finding some new songs. You can actually filter the search results to most recent uploads, the max is within the year. So, say you wanted to listen to a song with Miku. You can type in Miku's name in either Japanese or English with other key words like original or feat. and filter the results. On mobile, it's the bars next to the search bar and on the website, it should be the bars underneath the search bar. It's important to note that this doesn't protect from reuploads, so keep that in mind.
in my honest opinion, soundcloud is definitely one of the best platforms for listening to vocaloid. i've been using it for about a year at this point and i have found basically every song i've ever liked that's vocaloid on it. something i noticed about spotify when comparing it to soundcloud was how limited the selection of songs was on spotify in comparison. most of the vocaloid songs they had on there were covers, and it took me a while to find what i was actually looking for. there is also an extremely limited selection for producers i listen to, for example kairiki bear had almost nothing and utsu-p's just didn't sound right. im probably just being nit picky but it really threw me off. that's why i reccommend soundcloud a lot, both to experienced fans and new fans alike :]
Great video! I think it's the best I've seen on this topic. I find that Niconico was very important in the past but with the increasing number of producers who publish their songs on UA-cam too or sometimes UA-cam only, I find myself using mostly UA-cam for new songs. I still go on Niconico sometimes to check older songs. There is also Bilibili for Chinese Vocaloid but I don't like the website, so the only Chinese producers that I follow are the few that have a UA-cam channel. You said that Nayutalien recently created his UA-cam channel but I think he had one in the past but it was deleted and then he came back to UA-cam. I usually don't like talking about my own videos on other channels but since this is related to new songs I'll do it this time : every month I make a video to show the new Miku songs I found during the month so if some people struggle to stay up to date with the songs using Miku, you can check what I do (I also do Project Diva videos)
In addition to Project Diva, we now (well not now, but in a few months from now) have Project Sekai, a gacha mobile rhythm game developed by Sega and Colorful Palettes (subsidiary of Craft Egg, developer of Bang Dream!). In the game, there are 20 characters, grouped in 5 units, and 6 crypton vocaloids. Most of the songs in the game are cover songs and it will be a mix between character and vocaloid vocals. You may or may not like the project sekai cover version, but the song list of this game can be used as reference to learn popular vocaloid songs. The songs they featured in the game are equivalently popular and top songs, just like songs from Project Diva series. Currently they have announced +- 30 songs featured in the game. But, this is a mobile game, a live GaaS game, so the songs will be added overtime. I'm not saying you should play this game, but you can keep track to the song list of this game as a reference. Moreover, unlike project diva, the developer said they might feature non-crypton vocaloid songs in the game, so that's a big plus compared to original project diva series. Also, they have the popular producers making theme songs for each of the in game units. The songs are not yet announced, but they will be original songs exclusive for this game.
I wish this video existed back when I started listening to Vocaloid! I heard about Vocaloid from a rhythm game that featured some Last Note songs and Bad ∞ End ∞ Night, but I didn't have any interest in the genre right there. Later, I started learning japanese and become interested again in Vocaloid and started to search new songs in UA-cam and NicoNico. Now there's a new option made by Crypton themselves called Kiite, which is like Nicobox but with some interesting features, like a song radar where you can find songs based on the mood of the song (sad, cheerful, aggressive, cold, etc.). The downside is that it's browser only (no mobile client), and it's only in japanese unfortunately. You can access it here: kiite.jp PS: the Vocaloid ranking page still exists but it's only accessible by directly entering the page: ex.nicovideo.jp/vocaloid/ranking Seems that it's still updated.
Thank you for making this guide! I've always listened to Vocaloid on UA-cam. Because I've been listening to vocaloid more casually lately, it's become hard for me to find new songs. I'll be using this guide to find new vocaloid songs to listen to!
i’ve been needing a video like this since middle school! this is so incredibly helpful and is going to make looking for new music a lot less scary, thank u! (also to fellow newbies - i’ve been trying to get into vocaloid again bc i’ve been listening to utaite and i think they’re a great introduction to vocaloid! i’ve been slowly finding producers by looking up the original versions of the covers i like ^^)
I came across your channel a month ago and devoured almost all of your videos, just around the time I started checking Vocaloid again... I just stopped giving it time because life lmao, I just tracked few producers I really liked back in the day. I think I started in early 2010, considering how hyped I was for Hikarisyuyo's third release, and that happened back on C78. There's a couple of things I wanna say, first the ways to explore Vocaloid music didn't change a lot, I used niconico + vocaloiddb.... But I feel Vocaloid db doesn't update really fast, which is understandable. I used to track comiket spreadsheets and other list to check Touhou and Vocaloid albums but it seems that Vocaloid artist releasing on there decreased significantly over the years, and it looks like people are not keeping list updated on later events so it's pretty useless now and I'm not that keen on niconico even if I used it extensively. I wonder what can be done to track new artists and songs besides looking to rankings and all... It was thanks to you that I checked n-buna's music. Also I'd like if you talked about Hikarisyuyo, I think he deserves way more recognition than he has, his songs are superb and he's been really steady on the scene since 2008. I think his sound influenced vocarock in the early years.
i started to get really pissed off when nico nico removed other ranking sections like weekly,monthly and overall. which also caused the ranking algorithm to stagnate the hourly and daily rankings with all the top hits instead of the new songs composed by lesser-known or new producers, which I enjoy listening to and discovering
going through this was pretty informative as a fan for years that hadnt attempted using niconico before!! knowing theres an english mode makes me wanna go back and try so thanks!! as a fan that has mostly stuck to youtube for the past decade of listening to it, ive got a few tips myself! -subscribing and going through channels of those who subtitle songs and sort by their latest work, newer songs are bound to pop up and the name of the producer should be available, if you like it just further look into them! -there are a lot of 'vocaloid song guessing games' or just tierlists of songs people themselves like here! guessing games are fun for me because i also get to test my knowledge and if i dont recognize something i can find its name in the comments or description and such and look into it! while it isnt youtube theres a blog on tumblr called vocaloidscreenshots that share songs they find on youtube which really helps!! everything is also properly credited so i can look into the producer!
The issue with vocaloid guide's is that they are mostly watched by experienced vocaloid fans who just want to watch others talk about it, and not those new to it.
*non-japanese producers who doesn't use niconico screaming in the background* Also gonna list some not-so-mentioned producers who are on for the sake of doing it (most of them are still working, maybe onve a year, but still): Nashimoto-P Machigerita-P Ferry GHOST And now I don't remember anymore who hasn't been somehow shown in this video
Man, you're doing what I dreamed of in my teenage years: To have a serious discusion about Vocaloid. I'm still into Vocaloid trance after all these years and I'm happy to have found your channel.
Didn't know most of what was said in the NicoNico section but will help me keep on top of things alot better now than what I've been doing here on UA-cam. Asside form that I know it wasn't mentioned but SoundCloud isn't a bad place to go for vocaloid eaiter especially if your new. I will just make a warning about the playlists titled Vocaloid as while looking through them to help with making my own one I found a fair amount had a good number of non vocaloid songs in them making them a pain to go though. But generally speaking it's not a bad place to go.
im so happy i got back into my vocaloid phase last year after a 2 year hiatus. thanks for helping out with my discovering new vocaloid songs other than my 200+ vocaloid songs already.
I discovered Vocaloid from playing Battlecats, a game app from a Japanese company. They had a collaboration event with Hatsune Miku, and they used music from Vocaloid and I was hooked!!! I've slowly been growing my songs, I like the fast paced songs (not crazy fast). Before that I had only heard of Hatsune when the story about the guy who married an AI of Hatsune Miku! Never thought I'd be a fan one day!
It should also be mentioned that playing project sekai helps a lot more. If Im being honest, the project diva series is pretty much dead. I’m pretty sure the charting team at Sega left years ago, which is why we get very little new charts or updates. Project sekai is already free and more marketable right now than project diva. It has newer, up to date songs with vocaloids that don’t necessarily have to be crypton or even ones that use a different vocal synthesizer. Also, most events in project sekai also get commissioned songs by producers. It is still certainly very hard to find rhythm games that don’t have mostly crypton vocaloid songs, but I think project sekai is the best option I’ve seen. Edit: oh and if you are in Japan or at a private arcade too, the performai series (chunithm, Mai Mai, and ongeki) by Sega with arcades tends to have a niconico section in all of the three games that heavily focus on vocaloid songs, so definitely try those too.
It's stupid that some songs on Spotify have garbage tuning. Echo on Spotify sounds like garbage compared to the one on UA-cam. Same goes for Jailbreak and Seisou Bakuretsu Boy
One Thing about youtube and small producers, depending on how much you watch Vocaloid related content, and how many channels your subscribe to that are Vocaloid related, youtube will start recommending videos, including songs from smaller producers. I've found quite a few I liked from this, even producers with less than 100 views.
Nicobox did not look like that when I downloaded it... Unless Android is just that different, but even then (about 3+ years ago) it was awesome, and great for listening to music in the background. Highly suggest it for anyone who like Vocaloid, Utau, or Japanese creators that use the app.
There's an app called Audiomack, I remember uploading a couple songs on there a few years ago and they have I think 1k plays each. Definitely not the best option (they're starting to get taken down) but it works for a quick fix.
using Apple Music to listen to vocaloid is a bit iffy. it had a massive library of vocaloid music because it takes a lot of it from the iTunes Store, where a lot of vocaloid music is normally sold. however, unlike Spotify, some music is region-locked, so it’s hard to listen to it
I found out about vocaloid in middle school and became absolutely obsessed with it. Within 2 or 3 years I dropped out of it because most people found it as strange and I didn't want to be ridiculed. A few years later I occasionally finding myself humming songs I haven't heard in a very long time and sometimes I even come back to listen to some. My main thing was the Project Diva games and I think tomorrow I'm going to buy mega mix for my switch. I've owned Future Tone for a few years now but I want something new. I just found your channel tonight and you have a lot of interesting videos and I think I'm once again invested in vocaloid. Keep up the nice work 👍
Amazing video! However, one thing were the Chinese Vocaloids like Luo Tianyi. They're extremely popular on the video site bilibili and is thriving but the site's only Chinese and is a pain to find new Vocaloid songs, similar to youtube
There are ALOT good less songs on apple music. It’s pretty much ALL miku. I was trying to find more Len songs because he is an angel and i only had a few len songs but it was *very* hard to find more len songs over the sea of miku. In the end was only able to find sacred spear explosion boy by searching the producers name in Japanese... also Whiteflame songs are regioned locked and so are some oster songs. I would say spotify is better
One of my first recommendations to people looking for more VOCALOID music to listen to is to think about a genre of music or non-VOCALOID artist they like, and try to find VOCALOID music that is similar. Like if someone likes metal music and is pretty disinterested in the j-pop-y electro-pop-y sound of "most" VOCALOID music, i'd recommend looking up a "vocaloid metal songs" playlist or something, and from there they'd likely find and keep up with vocametal producers like Utsu-P or Senjougahara Yousei. You touched on it briefly but i LOVE VocaDB as a VOCALOID songs resource, its "tags" page has 200+ music genre tags, and even "theme" tags like "graduation" or "melancholy" since VOCALOID music can be a little evasive genre-wise sometimes. Anyway, another wonderful video, thank you for your hard work!
I love nicobox~ one of my best friends told me about this app like in 2016. Is very useful when you only like to stream music that have in your list of nico nico! sadly I don't have a premium account, so yeah, my list is very limited.. But is great option to find news vocaloid and utaite songs ~
Spotify is pretty difficult to collect Vocaloid songs with because most of the songs are locked in Japan. I usually just buy the albums, import them to iTunes PC, and mix them with my Apple Music. Afterwards I'll make a playlist on Spotify and import them in via Local Files. Win/win hehe.
I think youtube was a really great way to find new vocaloid songs and producer 5 years ago. But with the current algorithm you dont get recommended new stuff. Back when i got into vocaloid when i clicked on a vocaloid song i got recommended new and different songs on the right side of the screen! but now when i click on any vocaloid song i only get recommended the once in my playlist or the once with the most views. and thats only if youtube recommends more vocaloid songs. the search is has also gotten super weird. i wished we had the algorithm from a few years ago again.
Your video was very interesting. Since I've always been the more random and casual type of listener, I exclusively have been using UA-cam to find new vocaloid tracks. At some point I had accumulated around 300-400 songs in my playlist solely from digging around in here. Translation channels, Vocaloid/Utau cover channels, nico-nico choruses would be my main go-to for finding songs. I would highly recommend looking up voicebank names instead of song names in the beginning. Also experiment with different versions of songs, like accoustic or jazz arrangements. To me, the different ways people tune a VB can add or substract from a song, so finding covers is extremely valuable. Also googling lyrics or finding passionate folks on Tumblr helps lots. Have fuuun ☀️
I saw the nicobox logo and had a heart attack I haven’t seen that logo since sophomore year of highschool, it’s a really good way to listen to music in the background and I’m surprised more people don’t know about it
can u pls do a tutorial someday where u show us how to work the official nico nico douga app not nicobox i wanna see the videos w the music but i dont understand japanese and i think the app has a nicer look than the website
the new vocaloid song within 3 months playlist is pretty good, i dont use it but i do know lotsa songs new songs in it ua-cam.com/play/PL7ER-GcyaxAI4hvQN1pAaowLPFsyvfWbi.html ALSO i think it’s important to keep up with utaites too because they usually cover new or popular songs so it would be good to at least watch one persons covers
Awesome initiative. What I can recommend for discovery of new artists is going to youtube, typing in your vocaloid (or just the word vocaloid) with a genre that you like (Gumi Metal, Vocaloid Jazz, etc). Then you just open up 5 or so songs that catch your eye, from there just go crazy with the recommendation section. UA-cam's algorithm, although a nightmare at times, does do a great job of fishing up the most obscure stuff with barely any views if you go deep enough down the recommendation hole. Just click on anything that looks or sounds cool. You're gonna find a lot of fully japanese titles as well, if that scares you just try to translate it once or twice and pick up on the names of vocaloids (like (初音ミク for Miku) or specific artists (like 鬱P for Utsu P). From there just continue and expand your searches. Sometimes I do a thing I call "discovery night" where I just plow through youtube for an entire evening and fish up a ton of great stuff I would've never know how to search otherwise.
just started getting into vocaloid and your channel is a blessing!!!! thank you for all your hard work and time spent on your videos! they're so helpful :')
As someone who's getting back into the Vocaloid scene (since like 2012), the knowledge of NicoBox is VERY helpful! Gonna check that out I got into Vocaloid around 2008 and UA-cam has been my first and still best resource. All the songs back then I learned from now dead blogs or word of mouth but today I will look up people's Vocaloid top X number lists for new tracks. Also noting producers is very important. I discovered some great producers I had no idea had more than one song (EZFG, LamazeP, CircusP, ect.) I do use Spotify for Vocaloid listening, not exactly discovering. I know Spotify has licensing issues that kill a lot of "foreign" music but it's almost a puzzle for me to find a producer or find a certain song. Ever so often I'll discover more lesser known songs of producers but yeah no ryo, wowaka, OSTERproject, or my favorite Machigerita. Thank you for this video though! I feel less intimidated by Nico so I might give it a shot
One song is listen to on repeat everyday: Secret Himitsu ! 😍 (I followed PinocchioP for almost 10 years, and I still love his works and he's still improving)
if you want another vocaloid playlist, I've made one of neat songs I've seen, some popular, some niche! ua-cam.com/play/PLWGr6BuSjVINsBkCAqFZXE1P87w0Co4ib.html
Not to sound self-promoting (I mostly want to just share my experience/advice), but I’ve using my Many Voices to learn more about Vocaloid since getting back into it in late 2018. My original phase was around 2011-2013. My research started on only the wiki for my really rough first versions of my Miku, Rin, Len, Luka, and GUMI videos I made around June 2019. The wiki was all I knew at the time because it was something I knew of in my original phase. It's better for older stuff than newer stuff (unless something has hit 1 million views) because uh... my original Len video only had 30 songs when now even my Piko video can get 40. I had such a hard time figuring out what was new with Len, there also weren't any songs using his English VB. I've since discovered vocadb and oh man, it's great for what I do. You can filter songs by Vocaloid and even specific VB, you can look up languages by tags (I don't think all unique language songs are tagged tho), filter by release year a month (it accounts for album releases that the wiki doesn't always include in their dateS), and I like sorting by score to have an idea of what's popular. My original phase wasn't very comprehensive. I only really knew up to what was in Diva F (not 2nd), and I knew the panties Rin song but not Triple Baka. It was entirely UA-cam algorithm circa 2011 leading me to select reprints. I knew of Gackpo, but didn't know of any songs using him. Also vocadb has been a godsend for researching Chinese Vocaloids because wow I really hate using bilibili. Longya has become my new favorite male Vocaloid after having looked into him, so I'm a thorough believer that the Chinese Vocaloids are severely underrated outside of China. I don't have a load context to the same way I do for Japanese Vocaloids, but I've still been really enjoying select songs. My specific journey has been less on specific producers, but more about how different producers use the same Vocaloid. I started my video series just really wanting to compare Miku's voice because Apple dot com, Tell Your World, Solitary Envy, and News 39 all have very different sounding Mikus. That's what really appeals to me personally, the diversity in style that can be achieved using (generally) the same set of tools. It's become so appealing that I actually bought Miku V4 English to use to make covers of Japanese songs of hers in English (and also some other non Vocaloid English songs). I'm still learning how tuning any everything works, but I'm excited at the idea of possibly developing my own style eventually. The most self-promotion-y I'll get here is by mentioning that I'm even redoing my Miku through MEIKO videos since I've gotten even better at navigating vocadb since first dipping my toes into it later last year. I have 139 songs for Miku's birthday- actually it's technically more since when making the Google Doc for links to official uploads of every song featured (the 75 song video BARELY fits the description limit), I also included links to up to 3 other notable songs by certain producers. The song titles would be included in their own little box in the video because I'm tired of "no World is Mine?" comments on the Miku video because I represented ryo with the historically significant Melt instead. Only self promoting that because I've been working really hard to make sure these new Crypton Vocaloid (+ GUMI) videos are the absolute best they can be. I'd love to be a help for anyone relatively newer to the Vocaloid scene.
Y'know, despite being familiar with some of the more well known songs, I really need to get my bearings on both the producers and the overall "timeline" of the scene, which your channel really helps with. So thank you very much!
This is gonna sound really damn stupid but thank you so much for doing these Vocaloid videos, I'm being serious. I really love Vocaloid! And seeing these types of videos honestly makes me so damn happy! It really nice to see people still do care about Vocaloid. So again, thank you!
Thank you so much for making this. I technically got into vocaloid years ago but I only listened to about 20 songs and really only listened to crusher-p until recently when I started really getting into the fandom. I’ve been looking for how to get more into the fandom (what’s the memes/ what songs should I know/etc.) so this video really helps!
I discovered vocaloid through chatango rooms back in 2011. We primarily shared songs through UA-cam. There is nothing I miss more than the old UA-cam recommended algorithm. I would go down vocaloid rabbit holes for HOURS, but now UA-cam consistently fails to ever recommend anything new to me. There was a Japanese app available in the North American App Store back in 2011-2012 that I used all the time. It was a nico nico app but I don’t know if it was produced by nico Nico or if it was a third party Nico Nico player. It was completely in Japanese so while at the time it was so useful for finding songs, there are so many songs to this day that I’ve lost and haven’t been able to find again because they were on that app. It sounds like it was very similar to Nico Nico box. When that app got taken down I never knew anything like that ever resurfaced in the North American App Store. So thanks for the recommendation!! Lastly, while it is the absolute bare minimum, if someone is interested in getting into vocaloid games but does not have a console or a means to purchase one, project sekai is available in the App Store. It has a fair mix of popular vocaloid songs and game-only songs, including some songs with Gumi, IA, and vFlower. But it did introduce me to some vocaloid songs I’d never heard of before. Plus it’s convenient for on the go. Really enjoyed this video and I love your channel!
First time I ever heard Vocaloid was 2009, didn't think much of it. Until 2014 when my GF at the time showed me Love is War, as a Metal fan that song really stuck with me. But wasen't all in yet. Until 2020 when we broke up. OH my god I'm so happy for all the songs I've found. As a matter of fact my Spotify list is 94 songs big at this point. Using the Local File function on Spotify, cuz most songs doesn't exist on Spotify. :( My nr.1 way was just to follow UA-cams recommended really, or related. You end up in alot of good songs, also just searching for "My Top 20 Vocaloid Songs" on UA-cam really helps too. :D
"Producer probably isn't uploading their entire backlog" *Shows N-buna channel.* The Pain. Also love how helpful this is even as someone who's been a fan since like 2009-2010
Great video! And big thanks for Hall of Legends playlist - it's much more convinient than having tons of tabs opened on Vocaloid Wiki. P.S. Have you ever thought about making video on Benzene Series?
Here's my tip: start with Kyaami, then the voices won't seem so robotic and artificial. I listen to a lot of Kyaa's covers (and her amazing original, I'm also really hyped for her second one), and now, even Hachioji-P's and DECO*27's tuning appears rather realistic.
We have a discord server up stop by and say hi: discord.gg/xdUvy5T
Awesome will def join
I've been watching VOCALOID music for over ten years now and I never knew that there was an English mode on Nico Nico
Been there for few years yet the implementation is still crappy.
I just use Google Translate if I really need to... But yeah, it has English and if you set up your account to say that you're outside of Japan, usually it gives the option to use English by default. I used my Nintendo Network ID as a login which is a really cool option.
Mine was automatically made, (and it wasn't google translate btw)
God, I never knew the fandom needed a video essay-type channel until I came across yours. Thank you for being such a great resource for beginner vocaloid fans, your content is amazing and I hope your channel grows even more than it already has.
"Five to eight songs I listen to on repeat whole riding the bus to school everyday" damn ubnub dont expose me and my illegally downloaded ievan polkka like that 😔
I hit where it hurts homie
I would also like to clarify that NayutAlien had a UA-cam account a long time ago but it was taken down thanks to UA-cam’s horrible copyright system, and no attempt was made to remake it until this year, and thus most of his presence on UA-cam remains in fansubs. Please support the original artist when you can, everyone.
Also, thanks for introducing Nicobox. I had no idea it existed.
nayutalien remade his channel i'm pretty sure? ua-cam.com/channels/hK8kgGU767nKTxp4f4GD6g.html
blue Yeah, I meant until recently. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
10:35
(psst, IAイア is pronounced "ee-ah," not "I. A." :3)
This is an amazing guide, I was never really that into Vocaloid when it was in its prime, but now I'm starting to find myself getting back into it, and I've always wanted to learn more beyond the basics. Thank you so much for this!
One is also prounced O-Neh :))
Ikr Japanese accent, it was also used as well in Indonesian/Malay. We're used to pronounce "I" with "ee" and not "ai"
The biggest advice for new vocaloid fans is just try to find creators and styles you like. It can be hard to keep track of current stuff and feel included in the fanbase because of how reclusive the vocaloid community can be. Another thing for new fans is that they shouldn't feel ashamed if they dont know a famous song. Just find stuff you like.
Is it fine if i don't like a song that most people like? Even if it's popular, or a classic?
@@goldandcheese Of course! That's your opinion, and you shouldn't feel forced to like something just because it's a classic. There are plenty of classics I dislike.
I liked hikarisyuyo, he's extremely underrated since all people listen to were his song on project diva 🤣
same, i luv hikarisyuyo so much 😭 one of my favorite producers ever. i always recommend him when people ask for vocaloid suggestions. he deserves a lot more attention 🥺
@Payton that was Centralia
@@deetdeettv4945 even tho he arrange the music for girl dead monster hardly anyone knew him for that.
@Payton and the guitar is telecaster, he's famous for using rin back in the day.
SAME!!! i love his music
Vocaloid is virtually nonexistent on Apple Music. I started using Soundcloud because I wasn't getting my Voca fix on Apple Music.
Soundcloud has quite a bit of Utau and Vocaloid and I was kind of surprised. In fact, I was on there the other day and a Shrek Utau came on my suggestions... You find a lot more niche stuff there.
JLBee You really do - my current Vocaloid SoundCloud playlist is sitting at six hours and fifty minutes of songs 😂
I could've definitely needed this back when I first got into Vocaloid, lol.
My main method was (and still is), UA-cam.
What really restricted a lot of Vocaloid for me was that while I can enjoy a song while not knowing what it is about, knowing the lyrics makes me appreciate it a lot more. So my main method would be watching a video someone had subbed, and looking at the recommended if something interested me.
I still do that, and that's how I found a lot of my favourite producers. People like VGperson, AmeSubs, OccasionalSub, and especially DescentSubs definitely helped me a lot with founding songs I enjoyed, and it's a shame that a lot of them stopped.
But that's why I'm also so happy more and more Vocaloid Producers are getting UA-cam accounts! It's how I've gotten to check out famous producers like Mitchie M, PinocchioP and Wonderful Opportunity! A lot of them have english subtitles too.
I'm glad you mentioned Project Diva as well. It's definitely a good way to get to experience new songs, which was why I loved Project Diva F2nd, the first gameI got so much. It just made me happy that they had english subtitles for a lot of songs. I'm sadly not a gamer, so I've only played F2nd, Mirai Deluxe and just recently got Mega 39's. I've loved them all, though none of them has been as good as F2nd imo. I just loved the gameplay, it was a lot of fun to play. I probably won't get Future Tone anytime soon, since from what I've seen the gameplay is fairly similar to Mega 39's, and it's just not that fun imo. Still like the videos though.
The sub accounts played such a huge role in the initial growth of the English speaking Vocaloid fandom. The comments were basically a forum and archive of everything. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels sad about the sub channels being gone.
What you didnt add to this video was subscribing to cover makers and translators.
You have a chance to be introduced to new songs cover makers like ot get requested to. And with translators you get to see a myriad of songs across all genres and producers unless theyre bias to a favorite.
That's a great point never thought about that
I ended up finding a lot of Vocaloid songs, new and old, through translators !! So yeah it really is a great way to find songs !!!! (Also also a lot of creators from niconico have UA-cam accounts now so subscribing to them works too + UA-cam will start suggesting more songs!)
I’ve been wondering if someone would make something like this
I'm not the kinda person who needs to be on top of the scene at all times but I find the most common way I find new songs is from concert footage. Which is still mostly Crypton so probably not an ideal way to learn. I was pretty out of the loop between 2017 to 2019 so it was a good way to catch up so to speak
I already have my corner of vocaloid, but recently I purchased MegaMix and have been going through my Miku phase. I've also been trying to find newer songs and browsing NicoNico, so new producers have been popping up for me.
i also purchased megamix, but i've been in this shit for 10 years. you never leave this fandom, trust me.
@@dezzydream you think you have left it. Then bam! You remember a song you used to love, decide to listen to it and ultimately fall into the rabbit hole that is vocaloid.
@@lookatthiscutekittyc2903 Haha this is exactly what is happening to me right now lol I left for a couple years but I keep finding myself humming songs and remembering playing Future Tone. I'm going to buy mega mix tomorrow as I'm going on a trip and having a portable game might be a nice way to come back to vocaloid.
a different way for me to discover new vocaloid songs is by following a lot of utaites i like. since they usually tend to cover a bunch of (popular) vocaloid songs. it's a good way for me to find out about new producers/ discover new music. for example: i discovered niru kajitsu & hiiragi kirai by listening to yuu miyashita's covers of their songs and plot twist, niru kajitsu is now one of my absolute favourite vocaloid producers. the same goes for syudou.
my personal utaite recommendations: mafumafu, soraru, nqrse, luz, yuu miyashita, meychan, senra, uratanuki, shoose...
Please make a video about JimmyThumbP music and influence in the vocaloid community! It would be awesome!!!
I'd like to give some suggestions too:
-If you want more English (or other languages) Vocaloid songs, UA-cam is your best bet as Nico Nico mainly focuses on Japanese.
-If you want more Chinese Vocaloid, BiliBili is your best bet. Though BiliBili's app is only in simplified or traditional Chinese, it would be a struggle (I can read Chinese so it's fine for me). UA-cam is also a good alternative but it's still rare.
-Listening to covers/utaties, watching animatics and fan videos do potentially help with learning/discovering Vocaloid. There were certain anime fan-made PVs that did help me get into Vocaloid. It gave you the appeal as it's a language you are familiar with (covers) or a fandom you enjoy (animatics and PVs)
-For certain producers, some of them have full albums on Spotify (maybe Apple music, but I use Samsung so I have no clue), I know n-buna, Kikuo and a few others have some. Some are on UA-cam like Wowaka's album (Not in his channel but its accessible)
On the Apple Music topic, it will restrict you to your location and not allow you to move location without effort and a VPN or the like. You can’t reliably get any songs, much less search for them, as it won’t prompt any results without a link.
Essentially, Apple Music is just unusable for any foreign (or marked as such) music so I wouldn’t recommend going through that trouble.
On the topic of UA-cam, since that is my main resource, I learned a tip from another UA-camr, about finding some new songs. You can actually filter the search results to most recent uploads, the max is within the year. So, say you wanted to listen to a song with Miku. You can type in Miku's name in either Japanese or English with other key words like original or feat. and filter the results. On mobile, it's the bars next to the search bar and on the website, it should be the bars underneath the search bar. It's important to note that this doesn't protect from reuploads, so keep that in mind.
in my honest opinion, soundcloud is definitely one of the best platforms for listening to vocaloid. i've been using it for about a year at this point and i have found basically every song i've ever liked that's vocaloid on it. something i noticed about spotify when comparing it to soundcloud was how limited the selection of songs was on spotify in comparison.
most of the vocaloid songs they had on there were covers, and it took me a while to find what i was actually looking for. there is also an extremely limited selection for producers i listen to, for example kairiki bear had almost nothing and utsu-p's just didn't sound right. im probably just being nit picky but it really threw me off.
that's why i reccommend soundcloud a lot, both to experienced fans and new fans alike :]
Great video! I think it's the best I've seen on this topic.
I find that Niconico was very important in the past but with the increasing number of producers who publish their songs on UA-cam too or sometimes UA-cam only, I find myself using mostly UA-cam for new songs. I still go on Niconico sometimes to check older songs.
There is also Bilibili for Chinese Vocaloid but I don't like the website, so the only Chinese producers that I follow are the few that have a UA-cam channel.
You said that Nayutalien recently created his UA-cam channel but I think he had one in the past but it was deleted and then he came back to UA-cam.
I usually don't like talking about my own videos on other channels but since this is related to new songs I'll do it this time : every month I make a video to show the new Miku songs I found during the month so if some people struggle to stay up to date with the songs using Miku, you can check what I do (I also do Project Diva videos)
Thanks for sharing I'll give it a look!
Friend: Do you stream Vocaloid songs?
Me: *Laughs in 5 GB folder*
In addition to Project Diva, we now (well not now, but in a few months from now) have Project Sekai, a gacha mobile rhythm game developed by Sega and Colorful Palettes (subsidiary of Craft Egg, developer of Bang Dream!). In the game, there are 20 characters, grouped in 5 units, and 6 crypton vocaloids. Most of the songs in the game are cover songs and it will be a mix between character and vocaloid vocals. You may or may not like the project sekai cover version, but the song list of this game can be used as reference to learn popular vocaloid songs.
The songs they featured in the game are equivalently popular and top songs, just like songs from Project Diva series. Currently they have announced +- 30 songs featured in the game. But, this is a mobile game, a live GaaS game, so the songs will be added overtime. I'm not saying you should play this game, but you can keep track to the song list of this game as a reference. Moreover, unlike project diva, the developer said they might feature non-crypton vocaloid songs in the game, so that's a big plus compared to original project diva series.
Also, they have the popular producers making theme songs for each of the in game units. The songs are not yet announced, but they will be original songs exclusive for this game.
I wish this video existed back when I started listening to Vocaloid!
I heard about Vocaloid from a rhythm game that featured some Last Note songs and Bad ∞ End ∞ Night, but I didn't have any interest in the genre right there. Later, I started learning japanese and become interested again in Vocaloid and started to search new songs in UA-cam and NicoNico.
Now there's a new option made by Crypton themselves called Kiite, which is like Nicobox but with some interesting features, like a song radar where you can find songs based on the mood of the song (sad, cheerful, aggressive, cold, etc.). The downside is that it's browser only (no mobile client), and it's only in japanese unfortunately.
You can access it here: kiite.jp
PS: the Vocaloid ranking page still exists but it's only accessible by directly entering the page: ex.nicovideo.jp/vocaloid/ranking
Seems that it's still updated.
Hey do you have plans to cover non-Japanese producers. I think Vocacirus, Crusher, Ghost and Kira are quite influential.
Maybe, tbh I've never been well versed in non japanese producers. But it would make for a much easier video so I'm not against the idea
Thank you for making this guide! I've always listened to Vocaloid on UA-cam. Because I've been listening to vocaloid more casually lately, it's become hard for me to find new songs. I'll be using this guide to find new vocaloid songs to listen to!
I got flashbacks to a talkloid when you pronounced "IA" as "IA" and not "IA"
Idk if we saw the same talkloid but is it when they pronounce it like iowa?
Oh that talkloid XD
ua-cam.com/video/UmyFKqZy4s8/v-deo.html this one?
I’d love to see you make a video about Ayase and his meteoric rise as YOASOBI. I think that would be an interesting topic.
me too!
i’ve been needing a video like this since middle school! this is so incredibly helpful and is going to make looking for new music a lot less scary, thank u!
(also to fellow newbies - i’ve been trying to get into vocaloid again bc i’ve been listening to utaite and i think they’re a great introduction to vocaloid! i’ve been slowly finding producers by looking up the original versions of the covers i like ^^)
I came across your channel a month ago and devoured almost all of your videos, just around the time I started checking Vocaloid again... I just stopped giving it time because life lmao, I just tracked few producers I really liked back in the day.
I think I started in early 2010, considering how hyped I was for Hikarisyuyo's third release, and that happened back on C78.
There's a couple of things I wanna say, first the ways to explore Vocaloid music didn't change a lot, I used niconico + vocaloiddb.... But I feel Vocaloid db doesn't update really fast, which is understandable.
I used to track comiket spreadsheets and other list to check Touhou and Vocaloid albums but it seems that Vocaloid artist releasing on there decreased significantly over the years, and it looks like people are not keeping list updated on later events so it's pretty useless now and I'm not that keen on niconico even if I used it extensively. I wonder what can be done to track new artists and songs besides looking to rankings and all... It was thanks to you that I checked n-buna's music.
Also I'd like if you talked about Hikarisyuyo, I think he deserves way more recognition than he has, his songs are superb and he's been really steady on the scene since 2008. I think his sound influenced vocarock in the early years.
I hope you could cover John! Such a small but talented vocaloid artist!!
I really like John maybe one of these days, wish he didn't chose such a generic name though lol
ubnubmaster yeah agreed! We just gotta keep supporting him!!!!
do you mean John Zeroness or just john? cause i like them both but they're very different producers (and both would make an interesting video)
Thank you for introducing NicoBox, no idea it let me do offline playing without ads too!!! And you can support the original!! It’s amazing!!!
i started to get really pissed off when nico nico removed other ranking sections like weekly,monthly and overall. which also caused the ranking algorithm to stagnate the hourly and daily rankings with all the top hits instead of the new songs composed by lesser-known or new producers, which I enjoy listening to and discovering
"This is the big boy" -ubnubmaster 2020 lol
going through this was pretty informative as a fan for years that hadnt attempted using niconico before!! knowing theres an english mode makes me wanna go back and try so thanks!! as a fan that has mostly stuck to youtube for the past decade of listening to it, ive got a few tips myself!
-subscribing and going through channels of those who subtitle songs and sort by their latest work, newer songs are bound to pop up and the name of the producer should be available, if you like it just further look into them!
-there are a lot of 'vocaloid song guessing games' or just tierlists of songs people themselves like here! guessing games are fun for me because i also get to test my knowledge and if i dont recognize something i can find its name in the comments or description and such and look into it!
while it isnt youtube theres a blog on tumblr called vocaloidscreenshots that share songs they find on youtube which really helps!! everything is also properly credited so i can look into the producer!
The issue with vocaloid guide's is that they are mostly watched by experienced vocaloid fans who just want to watch others talk about it, and not those new to it.
*non-japanese producers who doesn't use niconico screaming in the background*
Also gonna list some not-so-mentioned producers who are on for the sake of doing it (most of them are still working, maybe onve a year, but still):
Nashimoto-P
Machigerita-P
Ferry
GHOST
And now I don't remember anymore who hasn't been somehow shown in this video
6:40 ah, little dark age, you're a man of culture, i see
Great album dude I would shake your hand if I could
Me: *clicks at light speed to make sure I'm not doing anything "wrong"*
Man, you're doing what I dreamed of in my teenage years: To have a serious discusion about Vocaloid. I'm still into Vocaloid trance after all these years and I'm happy to have found your channel.
Didn't know most of what was said in the NicoNico section but will help me keep on top of things alot better now than what I've been doing here on UA-cam.
Asside form that I know it wasn't mentioned but SoundCloud isn't a bad place to go for vocaloid eaiter especially if your new. I will just make a warning about the playlists titled Vocaloid as while looking through them to help with making my own one I found a fair amount had a good number of non vocaloid songs in them making them a pain to go though. But generally speaking it's not a bad place to go.
im so happy i got back into my vocaloid phase last year after a 2 year hiatus. thanks for helping out with my discovering new vocaloid songs other than my 200+ vocaloid songs already.
Do you have anything to say on UTAU? Kye popped up in my recommended a few weeks ago and I’m still shook
I actually don't have a lot of experience, if you want to hop on my discord or send me an email with some recommendations be my guest
Does anyone know how to change the language to english on the niconico app and nicobox?
I discovered Vocaloid from playing Battlecats, a game app from a Japanese company. They had a collaboration event with Hatsune Miku, and they used music from Vocaloid and I was hooked!!! I've slowly been growing my songs, I like the fast paced songs (not crazy fast). Before that I had only heard of Hatsune when the story about the guy who married an AI of Hatsune Miku! Never thought I'd be a fan one day!
It should also be mentioned that playing project sekai helps a lot more. If Im being honest, the project diva series is pretty much dead. I’m pretty sure the charting team at Sega left years ago, which is why we get very little new charts or updates. Project sekai is already free and more marketable right now than project diva. It has newer, up to date songs with vocaloids that don’t necessarily have to be crypton or even ones that use a different vocal synthesizer. Also, most events in project sekai also get commissioned songs by producers. It is still certainly very hard to find rhythm games that don’t have mostly crypton vocaloid songs, but I think project sekai is the best option I’ve seen.
Edit: oh and if you are in Japan or at a private arcade too, the performai series (chunithm, Mai Mai, and ongeki) by Sega with arcades tends to have a niconico section in all of the three games that heavily focus on vocaloid songs, so definitely try those too.
It's stupid that some songs on Spotify have garbage tuning. Echo on Spotify sounds like garbage compared to the one on UA-cam. Same goes for Jailbreak and Seisou Bakuretsu Boy
15:12 God I wish I wasn't brazilian to uderstand what was written in pink/purple
Miku is my b*tch
God dammit I have my country sometimes
One Thing about youtube and small producers, depending on how much you watch Vocaloid related content, and how many channels your subscribe to that are Vocaloid related, youtube will start recommending videos, including songs from smaller producers. I've found quite a few I liked from this, even producers with less than 100 views.
Nicobox did not look like that when I downloaded it... Unless Android is just that different, but even then (about 3+ years ago) it was awesome, and great for listening to music in the background. Highly suggest it for anyone who like Vocaloid, Utau, or Japanese creators that use the app.
yes!! I needed this!! I have mega mix but I love finding new music to fill up my playlist! I love this
There's an app called Audiomack, I remember uploading a couple songs on there a few years ago and they have I think 1k plays each. Definitely not the best option (they're starting to get taken down) but it works for a quick fix.
“it’s limited to 500 songs with a membership”
me, with over 1,000 songs on my playlist on youtube:
i hate vocaloid !!!!! RRRAHHHH hatsune is terrible weezer is better ddaaa
rRRRRAAAHHHHHH
using Apple Music to listen to vocaloid is a bit iffy. it had a massive library of vocaloid music because it takes a lot of it from the iTunes Store, where a lot of vocaloid music is normally sold. however, unlike Spotify, some music is region-locked, so it’s hard to listen to it
I found out about vocaloid in middle school and became absolutely obsessed with it. Within 2 or 3 years I dropped out of it because most people found it as strange and I didn't want to be ridiculed. A few years later I occasionally finding myself humming songs I haven't heard in a very long time and sometimes I even come back to listen to some. My main thing was the Project Diva games and I think tomorrow I'm going to buy mega mix for my switch. I've owned Future Tone for a few years now but I want something new. I just found your channel tonight and you have a lot of interesting videos and I think I'm once again invested in vocaloid. Keep up the nice work 👍
Amazing video! However, one thing were the Chinese Vocaloids like Luo Tianyi. They're extremely popular on the video site bilibili and is thriving but the site's only Chinese and is a pain to find new Vocaloid songs, similar to youtube
There are ALOT good less songs on apple music. It’s pretty much ALL miku. I was trying to find more Len songs because he is an angel and i only had a few len songs but it was *very* hard to find more len songs over the sea of miku. In the end was only able to find sacred spear explosion boy by searching the producers name in Japanese... also Whiteflame songs are regioned locked and so are some oster songs. I would say spotify is better
One of my first recommendations to people looking for more VOCALOID music to listen to is to think about a genre of music or non-VOCALOID artist they like, and try to find VOCALOID music that is similar. Like if someone likes metal music and is pretty disinterested in the j-pop-y electro-pop-y sound of "most" VOCALOID music, i'd recommend looking up a "vocaloid metal songs" playlist or something, and from there they'd likely find and keep up with vocametal producers like Utsu-P or Senjougahara Yousei. You touched on it briefly but i LOVE VocaDB as a VOCALOID songs resource, its "tags" page has 200+ music genre tags, and even "theme" tags like "graduation" or "melancholy" since VOCALOID music can be a little evasive genre-wise sometimes.
Anyway, another wonderful video, thank you for your hard work!
I love nicobox~ one of my best friends told me about this app like in 2016. Is very useful when you only like to stream music that have in your list of nico nico! sadly I don't have a premium account, so yeah, my list is very limited.. But is great option to find news vocaloid and utaite songs ~
Vocaloid is just a person useing HEAVY autotune change my mind
Eyy, *Clean Tears - Jellyfish ft. Hatsune Miku* from the start. I like.
Spotify is pretty difficult to collect Vocaloid songs with because most of the songs are locked in Japan.
I usually just buy the albums, import them to iTunes PC, and mix them with my Apple Music. Afterwards I'll make a playlist on Spotify and import them in via Local Files. Win/win hehe.
I think youtube was a really great way to find new vocaloid songs and producer 5 years ago. But with the current algorithm you dont get recommended new stuff. Back when i got into vocaloid when i clicked on a vocaloid song i got recommended new and different songs on the right side of the screen! but now when i click on any vocaloid song i only get recommended the once in my playlist or the once with the most views. and thats only if youtube recommends more vocaloid songs. the search is has also gotten super weird. i wished we had the algorithm from a few years ago again.
Your video was very interesting. Since I've always been the more random and casual type of listener, I exclusively have been using UA-cam to find new vocaloid tracks. At some point I had accumulated around 300-400 songs in my playlist solely from digging around in here. Translation channels, Vocaloid/Utau cover channels, nico-nico choruses would be my main go-to for finding songs. I would highly recommend looking up voicebank names instead of song names in the beginning. Also experiment with different versions of songs, like accoustic or jazz arrangements.
To me, the different ways people tune a VB can add or substract from a song, so finding covers is extremely valuable.
Also googling lyrics or finding passionate folks on Tumblr helps lots.
Have fuuun ☀️
I saw the nicobox logo and had a heart attack I haven’t seen that logo since sophomore year of highschool, it’s a really good way to listen to music in the background and I’m surprised more people don’t know about it
can u pls do a tutorial someday where u show us how to work the official nico nico douga app not nicobox i wanna see the videos w the music but i dont understand japanese and i think the app has a nicer look than the website
I don’t know if anyone’s said this here but NicoBox is now ボカコレ for anyone trying to find it.
the new vocaloid song within 3 months playlist is pretty good, i dont use it but i do know lotsa songs new songs in it ua-cam.com/play/PL7ER-GcyaxAI4hvQN1pAaowLPFsyvfWbi.html ALSO i think it’s important to keep up with utaites too because they usually cover new or popular songs so it would be good to at least watch one persons covers
Awesome initiative. What I can recommend for discovery of new artists is going to youtube, typing in your vocaloid (or just the word vocaloid) with a genre that you like (Gumi Metal, Vocaloid Jazz, etc). Then you just open up 5 or so songs that catch your eye, from there just go crazy with the recommendation section. UA-cam's algorithm, although a nightmare at times, does do a great job of fishing up the most obscure stuff with barely any views if you go deep enough down the recommendation hole. Just click on anything that looks or sounds cool. You're gonna find a lot of fully japanese titles as well, if that scares you just try to translate it once or twice and pick up on the names of vocaloids (like (初音ミク for Miku) or specific artists (like 鬱P for Utsu P). From there just continue and expand your searches. Sometimes I do a thing I call "discovery night" where I just plow through youtube for an entire evening and fish up a ton of great stuff I would've never know how to search otherwise.
just started getting into vocaloid and your channel is a blessing!!!! thank you for all your hard work and time spent on your videos! they're so helpful :')
As someone who's getting back into the Vocaloid scene (since like 2012), the knowledge of NicoBox is VERY helpful! Gonna check that out
I got into Vocaloid around 2008 and UA-cam has been my first and still best resource. All the songs back then I learned from now dead blogs or word of mouth but today I will look up people's Vocaloid top X number lists for new tracks. Also noting producers is very important. I discovered some great producers I had no idea had more than one song (EZFG, LamazeP, CircusP, ect.)
I do use Spotify for Vocaloid listening, not exactly discovering. I know Spotify has licensing issues that kill a lot of "foreign" music but it's almost a puzzle for me to find a producer or find a certain song. Ever so often I'll discover more lesser known songs of producers but yeah no ryo, wowaka, OSTERproject, or my favorite Machigerita.
Thank you for this video though! I feel less intimidated by Nico so I might give it a shot
you are a god!! This is what I needed, ive been slowly falling out of vocaloid… but now I feel motivated to continue!!! thanks!!!
when you mentioned nicobox the slowest smile came actoss my face lmaooo
does anyone know where to get really nice vocaloid fanart? i can’t find a lot of good ones :(
I always expect this vocaloid videos to be like 2 or 3 years old, it's nice to see a fresh one
Nicobox is a gem. Sadly 2ch had a better treatment trough the years than niconico,the site is such a mess.
One song is listen to on repeat everyday: Secret Himitsu ! 😍
(I followed PinocchioP for almost 10 years, and I still love his works and he's still improving)
How come you don't cover kairiki bear or maretu?
if you want another vocaloid playlist, I've made one of neat songs I've seen, some popular, some niche! ua-cam.com/play/PLWGr6BuSjVINsBkCAqFZXE1P87w0Co4ib.html
Not to sound self-promoting (I mostly want to just share my experience/advice), but I’ve using my Many Voices to learn more about Vocaloid since getting back into it in late 2018. My original phase was around 2011-2013. My research started on only the wiki for my really rough first versions of my Miku, Rin, Len, Luka, and GUMI videos I made around June 2019. The wiki was all I knew at the time because it was something I knew of in my original phase. It's better for older stuff than newer stuff (unless something has hit 1 million views) because uh... my original Len video only had 30 songs when now even my Piko video can get 40. I had such a hard time figuring out what was new with Len, there also weren't any songs using his English VB.
I've since discovered vocadb and oh man, it's great for what I do. You can filter songs by Vocaloid and even specific VB, you can look up languages by tags (I don't think all unique language songs are tagged tho), filter by release year a month (it accounts for album releases that the wiki doesn't always include in their dateS), and I like sorting by score to have an idea of what's popular. My original phase wasn't very comprehensive. I only really knew up to what was in Diva F (not 2nd), and I knew the panties Rin song but not Triple Baka. It was entirely UA-cam algorithm circa 2011 leading me to select reprints. I knew of Gackpo, but didn't know of any songs using him. Also vocadb has been a godsend for researching Chinese Vocaloids because wow I really hate using bilibili. Longya has become my new favorite male Vocaloid after having looked into him, so I'm a thorough believer that the Chinese Vocaloids are severely underrated outside of China. I don't have a load context to the same way I do for Japanese Vocaloids, but I've still been really enjoying select songs.
My specific journey has been less on specific producers, but more about how different producers use the same Vocaloid. I started my video series just really wanting to compare Miku's voice because Apple dot com, Tell Your World, Solitary Envy, and News 39 all have very different sounding Mikus. That's what really appeals to me personally, the diversity in style that can be achieved using (generally) the same set of tools. It's become so appealing that I actually bought Miku V4 English to use to make covers of Japanese songs of hers in English (and also some other non Vocaloid English songs). I'm still learning how tuning any everything works, but I'm excited at the idea of possibly developing my own style eventually.
The most self-promotion-y I'll get here is by mentioning that I'm even redoing my Miku through MEIKO videos since I've gotten even better at navigating vocadb since first dipping my toes into it later last year. I have 139 songs for Miku's birthday- actually it's technically more since when making the Google Doc for links to official uploads of every song featured (the 75 song video BARELY fits the description limit), I also included links to up to 3 other notable songs by certain producers. The song titles would be included in their own little box in the video because I'm tired of "no World is Mine?" comments on the Miku video because I represented ryo with the historically significant Melt instead. Only self promoting that because I've been working really hard to make sure these new Crypton Vocaloid (+ GUMI) videos are the absolute best they can be. I'd love to be a help for anyone relatively newer to the Vocaloid scene.
Fun fact: you can play the song on Nicobox offline, you have to play the song online first, then you can play it offline
I know you didnt pronounce IA like that
I use soundcloud like the degenerate that I am. xD
I've been seeing a lot of people say soundcloud I had no idea there was an active vocaloid community on there, I think that's cool :0
Y'know, despite being familiar with some of the more well known songs, I really need to get my bearings on both the producers and the overall "timeline" of the scene, which your channel really helps with. So thank you very much!
I recommend going to vocaloid discord server. Get to hangout with fellow fans and get recommendation for songs.
This is what I do
This is gonna sound really damn stupid but thank you so much for doing these Vocaloid videos, I'm being serious. I really love Vocaloid! And seeing these types of videos honestly makes me so damn happy! It really nice to see people still do care about Vocaloid.
So again, thank you!
I already was a veteran fan, but I learned so much from you about Vocaloid anyway! Thanks!
Playing osu with friends is also a great way and a whole lot of fun !😀
10:35 I.A. is pronounced like e-yuh
Vocaloid Hook Medelys are great as well, just type in ボカロサビメドレー
Thank you so much for making this. I technically got into vocaloid years ago but I only listened to about 20 songs and really only listened to crusher-p until recently when I started really getting into the fandom. I’ve been looking for how to get more into the fandom (what’s the memes/ what songs should I know/etc.) so this video really helps!
I discovered vocaloid through chatango rooms back in 2011. We primarily shared songs through UA-cam. There is nothing I miss more than the old UA-cam recommended algorithm. I would go down vocaloid rabbit holes for HOURS, but now UA-cam consistently fails to ever recommend anything new to me.
There was a Japanese app available in the North American App Store back in 2011-2012 that I used all the time. It was a nico nico app but I don’t know if it was produced by nico Nico or if it was a third party Nico Nico player. It was completely in Japanese so while at the time it was so useful for finding songs, there are so many songs to this day that I’ve lost and haven’t been able to find again because they were on that app. It sounds like it was very similar to Nico Nico box. When that app got taken down I never knew anything like that ever resurfaced in the North American App Store. So thanks for the recommendation!!
Lastly, while it is the absolute bare minimum, if someone is interested in getting into vocaloid games but does not have a console or a means to purchase one, project sekai is available in the App Store. It has a fair mix of popular vocaloid songs and game-only songs, including some songs with Gumi, IA, and vFlower. But it did introduce me to some vocaloid songs I’d never heard of before. Plus it’s convenient for on the go.
Really enjoyed this video and I love your channel!
Is Project Diva compatible with my rock band guitar?
Hey, a long time Vocaloid fan here. Since 2009. Never heard of Nicobox before. Gonna check it out, thanks.
First time I ever heard Vocaloid was 2009, didn't think much of it. Until 2014 when my GF at the time showed me Love is War, as a Metal fan that song really stuck with me. But wasen't all in yet. Until 2020 when we broke up. OH my god I'm so happy for all the songs I've found. As a matter of fact my Spotify list is 94 songs big at this point.
Using the Local File function on Spotify, cuz most songs doesn't exist on Spotify. :(
My nr.1 way was just to follow UA-cams recommended really, or related. You end up in alot of good songs, also just searching for "My Top 20 Vocaloid Songs" on UA-cam really helps too. :D
"Producer probably isn't uploading their entire backlog"
*Shows N-buna channel.*
The Pain.
Also love how helpful this is even as someone who's been a fan since like 2009-2010
Great video! And big thanks for Hall of Legends playlist - it's much more convinient than having tons of tabs opened on Vocaloid Wiki.
P.S.
Have you ever thought about making video on Benzene Series?
My guide, download stepmania packs, have fun XD
Here's my tip: start with Kyaami, then the voices won't seem so robotic and artificial. I listen to a lot of Kyaa's covers (and her amazing original, I'm also really hyped for her second one), and now, even Hachioji-P's and DECO*27's tuning appears rather realistic.