this vst have a something more "a shit out of the box you don't have in other vast", you have to like the fireman tone before buy, the price is expensive because of insane expensive Swedish taxes !!!!! , I had recorded 4 albums in the Fred main studio, for me its the best guitar sound in this planet, thrust me you have to book his studio and listen, the vst is the closest thing had listen to my best guitar tone , i'm hardcore fan of his tone
Indeed, had somebody presented the tones coming out of this sim in the form a physical Line 6 amp, it would have gotten the hammer treatment for sure. Not so honest anymore, if he actually EVER was, and not just shilling for the "right" companies..
"Dude, this is noisy AF!" "Nonono - pull this and that knob down!" Translation: "We're gonna give you a Tone- and a Twang-knob, but please don't use them, they're only for the specsheet."
And for almost 200eu when even the Neural DSP stuff is around a 100 (which is already really expensive for any plugin), with a lot more versatility :DD What a joke.
No? From what I can gather, these seem to be a dedicated treble and mid boost in the way to the preamp to dial the tightness of the amp. These are suposed to be exagerated since not all guitars are created equal. I wouldn't pay for this but I wouldn't also pay for an axe fx and people still use that shit because it serves them a purpose.
The American exchange rate is $230....$230 dollars for an amp sim when there a million free ones out there? $230 for an amp sim that looks like 1st gen amp sims because they couldn't even put money into making it look nice? $230 dollars for an amp sim when the biggest factor in tone are your cab impulses? $230 for no noise gates or effects? $230 for no personal IR loader and NO bonus features? $230 for a horrendous sound? Is Fredrik high? The amp market is super competitive these days and this is the most expensive amp sim I've ever seen, which has no wanted features including a decent sound. Holy shit Freddy do better than this "Hey the kids are buying amp sims. I should get in on that" cash grab. He's pulling a Gibson..making garbage but upping the price due to a name.
I agree, In the last 5 years I played almost everything there is in Amp sim world and realized free stuff are just as good as paid stuff. If you can find good IR's there is no point of buying any of the amp sims.
Couldn't have said it better. Kazrog are also re-entering the market as well; not to mention that Neural's stuff already is on the upper end of what you'd pay for an (1 head) amp sim but theirs also come bundled with the "3d" IR stuff and some pedals. Hard to justify this one in the current context.
@@TheFoolArts Doesn't sound anymore solid than any of the popular sims out there to be honest. Try the Hellbeast V2 for instance - that sound's solid as well and it's 20$
To me it almost sounds like there's some of that Boss HM2 sound blended in. The plugin as a whole seems like it hasn't been given much thought. I was curious when it was announced but I think I'll be giving this a miss.
@@BradsGonnaPlay I can assure you that if this plugin was released years ago and had the Line 6 logo slapped on it, he definitely would not have been so nice. Really disappointed, I expected better from Glenn.
Glenn - I have two extra licenses for TH-U Full. Embedded in it is something called Rig Player. It's Kemper profiles you can run inside the box The Soldano X88R sounds amazing. I'm willing to give you one to demo for the sake of the Spectre Army. Let me know.
I like the Kemper with TH-U or STL ToneHub mix. We have Fredman Digital Kemper profiles, but I'm not sure how telling the profiles are to the actual plugin.
@@seanoakes3688 I'd be interested to see as well. My band records at our practice space with a torpedo live, lancaster IR's and a tube head. In post, at home, I will add a guitar with rig player since we are a two piece. The Rig Player always sits well with the Mesa/Torpedo/IR set up. It's pretty conveincing. I also run the bass in during post with one of the THU Sims. Sits well. THU is an extremely useful tool. Again, if Glenn reaches out I'd be willing to give him one of my liscences if it helps someone out there. I don't have the time, knowledge or desire to start creating UA-cam content.
I can get a better sound with a 10 year old SIM with less hiss and I can choose my own IR. This sounds like something some one found on an old hard drive . The price for this is a joke
@@Peter-by3ox Not butthurt at al. But people can say anything on here. I am actually really excited at the oppertunity to learn. So I am very glad you want to record something, and I am actually looking forward to chatting more about this before I Piss away my money xD Cheers!
It seems to me Fred’s team didn’t really study the ampsim market at all. I personally don’t mind an ugly UI if it sounds great but for its price it’s extremely limited in its options. In today’s market I don’t think a lot of people will pay $200 for this EDIT: I forgot to mention the dumb knobs that hiss like hell. You’re in the digital realm, you don’t have to work around the limitations of physical gear. Just turn down the range on those knobs so they’re not useless after 3-4.
€179.00 which works out to about £150 in my currency. I'm sorry but no, not for me. That price is insane considering the limited versatility of the plugin. You get what looks like 9 x IRs and nothing but high gain. No gate, can't adjust the IRs, can't load your own IRs, can't turn the IRs off to use your own external IR loader, seemingly no over sampling, clean options, no pedals or FX and if you want a lead tone you'll have to start fucking around with 3rd party plugins afterwards for delay etc. The tone seemed to be generally okay from the samples you showed. Nothing mind-blowing. Also appears to be a missed opportunity by seemingly not including any presets of his iconic tones (Clayman, At the Gates for example). If this had come out maybe 10 years or so ago, maybe, but considering the amp sim market just now and the quality that is out there I see or hear absolutely nothing in this that would warrant it being over about £40. I really hate shitting on things but damn, anyone that thinks they'd be getting value for money spending €179.00 on this needs their head looked at. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together though, Glenn!
Seemed awesome at first, I can even tolerate that you can't load one's own IR's simply because the fredman sound is mainly what I want in my cab sims but fucking hell €180 for an amp sim? I can buy 5 other sims with that money and money to spare on a great IR pack. Unless they drag the price WAY down I won't buy it, which really is a shame since it sounded killer
Nice, so basically the noise of a SLO 100 cranked with a cranked OD sitting in front of it only edgier and more hurtful. Gotta work great in a busy mix.
Congratulations on the product launch, and best of luck to the creators. Sounds pretty rad, but that price is totally out of left field. Newcomers to the market would be wise to recognize that it's crowded, and their potential customers already have dozens of products from the competition. If you want anyone's attention, you better do something really special, and get the details right (resizable UI, oversampling, killer noise gate, etc...) With this half-baked UI, no noise gate, no options (I assume you would have mentioned oversampling if it was included)... For that price you can get entire DAWs with half decent amp moddeling SUITES built in... In its current state, I would not be tempted to spend $29 on this, and can't even guarantee I would try it if it was free. At the current price? I'd honestly be surprised if they sell a single license.
as someone who's been using a lot of guitar amps and impulses and other guitar sims. this ain't worth the money no matter how good this is. im not spending the equivalent of serum or some other synth or even hell an effects pack. at that point you're better off buying gr6
take the rhino as a comparison - went for like 39€ or something on sale and it is the single best amp sim i ever played. the first one that sounded good to my ears. this is a nice amp, and i really like the tone, but why spend 179 on this?
Interesting evaluation. I assume you didn't like the sound at all since the critique was in all the other features and you wouldn't even try it for free. Personally for amps and amp sims I go sound first, does it do a thing. Most don't and they could have all the features you can imagine, but it wouldn't result in being played. Obviously the price is rough considering you can often get neural dsp stuff for half the price. It's just way above reasonable even if it's unique. Although I didn't choose neural dsp for the UI or noise gate or all the cab and mic configurations, oversampling or other sweet features. The ultimate test for buy decision was if it made a good sound and felt right to play, which it did without effort. The other features are nice for getting wildly varied nuances, but the core was what was important. And its price felt acceptable. Now all the features and huge versatility is important if you're a sound engineer that plans to use a single amp sim for everything, but this product is far from that audience in my eyes, definitely a one trick pony for specific audience. I just think comparing the list of features is not the adequate review unless the core is doing the same thing. But the product definitely is overpriced in any measure.
@@Yupppi no, the sound was fine, problem is the price. The fact even neural cucks have a Cheeper product than this is just sad though. And comparing features, I’d rather have the bang for my buck
@@Yupppi I think we can all agree, the sound is what matters. But bottom line, many sims, including free ones, offer fantastic sound these days, especially if you don't mind a lack of features or a 'one trick pony'. Not to mention if you turn off the built in IRs and run Torpedo WOS or something else instead. Killer tones, and many more options can be had for cheap/free... If you specifically want 'this' sound, just blend in a transistor sim and add a comb filter or a slightly offset IR... I can't comment on the sound, as I heard this on my cell phone speaker, because that is how interested I am at this point in aquiring my 53rd amp sim, even for free... 😏
Welp, at that price i can get any archetype series from neuraldsp which contains way more options (especially the gojira one that is also able to sound like this ua-cam.com/video/hmmh_A3zVcs/v-deo.html). By the way Glenn, have you ever tried any their amp sim ? If you're into specific sounding amps, their granophyre sim is quite something actually.
While I agree with complaining about the price and the lack of features, anyone saying this tone is trash has there own opinion, but this tone is not supposed to be pristine metal. That’s the point. In fact, this tone is damn near mix ready for what it is. A lot of guitar tones sound bad when taken out of the context of a mix and vise versa. This is why that scooped sound we all love in our bedroom sounds like ass live. But yeah...that price is crazy.
Yeah the tone in the demo is ok and similar to what you'd ear in songs such as The Moor from Opeth. The asked price makes me wonder if they even looked at their competition before releasing it. They're gonna probably be forced to lower the price down the line if they wanna sell any.
If that tone is acceptable to you, more power to ya, but that noise floor and half of those knobs turned past 30% being detrimental to the tone makes for a pretty substandard sound. If this is mix ready, then my 15 year old self was a top-tier tracking engineer.
@@BradsGonnaPlay It’s mix ready for the genre is what I was implying. Certainly not gonna work for most things. But if you’re looking for that nasty Swedish HM-2 type tone without the nasty HM-2, then this is it.
I do not know if i like the sound. It sounds like an amp pushed to a maximum limit where it almost falls apart and gets congested. Also it somehow sounds like you are running your guitar with single coils. that twang is super weird for a humbucker based sound. So weird but also so intriguing. In the full mix i loved how it sounds!
Man I'm always impressed about how heavy and clean your mixes sound. There are some crystal clear definition I can't find anywhere else, even with this super hi gain amp.
Sounds very good to me, personally though for the price I can think of a few other plug ins that sound very similar, other than that it’s awesome!!! 🤘🏻
I’m you are gonna pay that much money go get yourself a couple of plugin alliance or neural DSP amp sims, which are about 150 each not on sale (PA stuff is often 30 bucks on sale and neural DSP has 50% sales often). It feels weak for his work. Even in the mix. Feels like if you want a good weak amp sound for maybe leads or something it could work, but in general i feel there are better options out there.
What you said around 5:50 is crucial. If you like these types of tones, it’s for you. I wasn’t a big fan of the tones here until you got to the full mix, which is where it counts (something I’ve been saying since I started my channel in 2010). And I certainly wouldn’t pay that much for this amp sim when there are so many other amp sim suites (with effects) that are much better (of course, ‘better’ in only my opinion). And in appreciate your honesty on the changes you’d like to see on this!
Modern metal guy: "Gross, I can find a better tone with my free plugins!" Classic metal guy: "Gross... *I love it* I've been searching for this tone forever!"
That tone was very modern and somehow "unorthodox" in the 90s ! But yeah as a fan of the Japanese 80s metal, I totally get your point (Eliza, Wolf, Yokosuka Saver Tiger ...)
The funny thing is that we can get a similar tone with a pod, that generic chaosphere sound that was so cool in 2007. He's famous for his rich and girthy guitar tones so why make this?
Hahahahhaa, *179 fucking euros* ... no, really: fuck this... Where the hell is Glenn's sledgehammer?! The sound is okay but with the noise, the interface (I bet my ass it doesn't scale), the weird knobs, no gate AND no IR (which is the most important thing?!)... it feels like a Fred Head made by apple. DSP gives you a whole suite from Joe Duplantier for that price and you have enough left for 10 packs of strings...
I’m not impressed at all. Buy the Hellbeast V2 it has everything you need including effects IR loader and sounds amazing and the look is stellar plus you can custom size it on your pc. I own a lot of amp sims including Neural DSP. You can’t beat the price at 19.99 U.S. just saying.
I think that If he included impulses, 3 other amp sims for a clean, marshally and a "wildcard amp" tone and more inbuilt fx, I would absolutely pay 179 dollars. I think people are shitting on the tone and twang knob but these seem to be working like a grind knob in a randall satanor the high knob in a mesa boogie mark series amp, they boost certain high end frequencies before the preamp (thus increasing the hiss) to dial up the tightness of the amp.
the knobs have a very responsive response (big amplitude) Ok, now its is 99 euros and they re-worked on the GUI. Starting to make sense fredmandigital.com/collections/guitar-bass/products/fredman-digital-distortion
Theres been some great changes since this video, noisegate, turn off cab and even a clean channel. The support is amazing, you can get a personal guidance via videochat if you want.
I love Fredrik, but this sounds awful. way to much high mid scratch going on, shite interface, have to crank the tone all the way one direction to get a decent sound that doesn't pierce your ears which leaves the amp with no tone knob, ridiculously expensive... honestly glen, wtf are you doing.
If you want that bitey, out of control amp sim, get Vadim Taranov's Redtone for like 10 to 15 bucks. And you can use whatever impulse you want with that one, too.
I remember hearing ATG and IF in the early 2000's. I had the most bottom-end, entry-level Epiphone SG and tried so at least somewhat match that tone on a crappy amp. The closest I got to it was by turning up the presence, so watching you fiddle with that tells me i was kind of in the ballpark!
Glenn, you definitely went too easy on this. Not even concerning the sound of the product (which I don't find that good to be honest), there are obvious design flaws and lack of understanding of the amp sim market. The thing that pisses me off the most is the twang and tone control, why would u put them in if they are completely unusable past 4? Just shorten the range for gods sake, that has to be like one freaking line of code.
The way i see it is this an amp simulator at its rawest. Just like buying the real stuff with it´s own limitations, but "portable". No extra things you could find in another sim. Imagine a cd player that behaves like a deck, side a, side b, no skip, but cd quality.
Not a bad sounding amp sim. No disrespect to the developers, but I’d definitely choose many other amp sims over this one. For a 170 dollars I just don’t think it’s worth it. For example, Archetype Gojira. Archetype Gojira comes with 3 pre amps, three cabs, and not to mention can choose from 6 different mics that allow you to customize your own mic placement. Also comes with an OD, DIS, PHSR, CHR, and a pitch shifting pedal all for 130 dollars.
Gonna be honest here, for what you get both feature-wise and sound-wise, this really isn't worth it to me. I might be biased, but Neural DSP's Archetype Gojira plugin is a far better value because you have far less limitations and a much greater deal of versatility. Hell, you can even get somewhat close to this amp sound with one of the built in pedals. That's just me though.
Let me add this: still appreciate the video, the time took in creating it and you still remained honest enough to not really recommend it. Credit where credit is due.
If they manage to add some features, and take some suggestions (knob behaviour, UI, noise gate, option to use own IR), this could turn out to be a real winner. People are not shy throwing money at expensive mixing plugins if they're great (e.g. VSM-4), so amp sim should be okay too.
I kinda dig the look of the amp face. it is intimidating and reminmds me of the high-tech machinery from teh movie "Forbidden Planet" and kind of a Metropolis (the 1936 sci fi film) vibe.
For whatever reason, by itself it sounded surprisingly much like EHX Metal Muff in the type of gnarl it produced but Metal Muff at least allows using your own speaker (IRs).
I can't decide if I love it or dislike it. Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem to have that beautiful "HAAAAAAW" to it that I've heard. Its kinda there, but not quite like that beautiful sound. I actually like your fredman valvestate/5150 blend better; and since I have a valvestate and TSE X-50 plugin, along with your blended cab impulse, I think I'm going to just use that for now. And once I get the fredman clip, I may try my hand at it as well. It's just way too expensive for me. Definitely a good and very different sound from a plugin, though!
Glenn, the results speak for themselves. This thing is truly awesome. However, at 179 it's just not worth it. I've got the Ignite Emissary and the Fluff 5150 sims under your advice and they are awesome. I know you're a huge fan of this guy's work(Just as any self respecting metalhead should be) but at 179 I could get a Joyo bantamp or two Mooer preamps.
Fredman digital website has it listed at €119, or $144 dollars. Worth noting because that's the main issue with it. Still not cheap, but much less than what everyone's complaining about. Even discounted, it needs a gate, the ability to turn off the internal irs, boost, eq, and some presets of classic Fredman tones at the very least.
@@RicardoJBRodrigues I'm glad they were shamed into lowering the price. Nice work, whiners. 👍 Better hurry, in case it's an introductory rate. To me, it sounds like a amp pushed way too hard until it starts to fall apart, either with pedals, plug ins or cranking the master. You can get there many different ways, but this will do it in one box.
I think he went way overboard with making this amp sound as glassy as possible, when he's famous for his thick and robust sounds. Idk why he didn't include some thickening or girth knob to compensate the the twang.
For that price they could have at least hired an interface designer, this looks like something some kid did in photoshop. And trust me, design and ease of use does count, a lot!
Sounds decent enough. Your mix is awesome as awlays Glenn. But, this thing is dumb expensive compared to anything else on the market. If the price drops by about $100 & you can add your own IR then it might be worth a closer look. I have several Neural DSP, Aurora DSP Rhino & ML Sound Lab plugins so I definitely have way more options than I need. I'd just say use a free sim or The Rhino. Just my opinion
@@SpectreSoundStudios It really is. Aurora DSP is really hard to beat for the price. I've been using the Mammoth since it came out. Haven't touched the Parallax since. Always had some harsh pokey frequencies I couldn't tame. The Mammoth just sits a lot better in the mix for me.
July 2022 and the FINALLY made a demo mode, but its 15 seconds on / 15 seconds bypassed. Too weird. This sounds no better than the free amp sims that are out there. Even at the new lower price, this seems like a basic amp sim. Only selling point is the guy with such an awesome reputation having his name attached to it (as if that matters).
I would really love to see in our modern amp sims a voicing button, switch or toggle which is called "mix ready mode". If you press it, the tone get that sizzle and tightness to make you sit well in the mix. If the button is deactivated (Jam mode) you would have a fuller tone, something more pleasant to listen to isolated. I know that this is possible to do ourselves, with EQ, IRs etc but. one button would be very easy and confortable to immediately have a feeling or a taste for 2 different voicings of a particular guitar tone. Especially for today's video.
I think this sounded better during your isolated playing than in the full mix; the full mix tone sounded boring as hell to me. That being said, I still wasn't a big fan of the isolated tone. I'll stick with Neural DSP and ML Sound Lab for amp sims.
It sounds great! Definitely in the same tone chart with my favourite Diezel Herbert by Plugin Alliance. Juicy, reactive to pick attack, rich in harmonics and gain textures
Sounds like 2010 good, not 2021 good. Best of lucks to the creators
Make it early 2000s kinda decent. It's just advertisement, doesn't sound better than a pod
It's modeled after a spyder amp
@@instrumentalist28 reminds me of my POD HD.. not too impressed
"2021 good" - What?
Thaaaaaats kinda the point
179$ ? How is that even close to competetive in a saturated metal ampsim market?
Glenn himself showed us a lot of free stuff that could give this thing a run for it's money. Both the Fluff and Stevie T things for instance
*230 $ (179 €) ;-)
this vst have a something more "a shit out of the box you don't have in other vast", you have to like the fireman tone before buy, the price is expensive because of insane expensive Swedish taxes !!!!! , I had recorded 4 albums in the Fred main studio, for me its the best guitar sound in this planet, thrust me you have to book his studio and listen, the vst is the closest thing had listen to my best guitar tone , i'm hardcore fan of his tone
Especially when everyone kind of agrees NeuralDSP is the primo stuff, and theirs are still cheaper lol
@@mus4622 «Expensive swedish taxes» lmao okay
This review didn't feel fearless. You'd have given it the hammer if it wasn't for your love of Frederick.
welp, least that made Freddy turned his prices down.
Well, he did actually say that
@@alongcomesandy but still called it fearless.
Frederick is my favorite producer tbh.
Indeed, had somebody presented the tones coming out of this sim in the form a physical Line 6 amp, it would have gotten the hammer treatment for sure. Not so honest anymore, if he actually EVER was, and not just shilling for the "right" companies..
"Dude, this is noisy AF!"
"Nonono - pull this and that knob down!"
Translation: "We're gonna give you a Tone- and a Twang-knob, but please don't use them, they're only for the specsheet."
Why did I read that last line in the most southern American accent I could muster?
And for almost 200eu when even the Neural DSP stuff is around a 100 (which is already really expensive for any plugin), with a lot more versatility :DD What a joke.
No? From what I can gather, these seem to be a dedicated treble and mid boost in the way to the preamp to dial the tightness of the amp. These are suposed to be exagerated since not all guitars are created equal. I wouldn't pay for this but I wouldn't also pay for an axe fx and people still use that shit because it serves them a purpose.
@@noahcalland8316 the word "twang"
That's what happens when washed-up guys who did some cool stuff 20 years ago try to create a new product. It usually does not work out.
The American exchange rate is $230....$230 dollars for an amp sim when there a million free ones out there? $230 for an amp sim that looks like 1st gen amp sims because they couldn't even put money into making it look nice? $230 dollars for an amp sim when the biggest factor in tone are your cab impulses? $230 for no noise gates or effects? $230 for no personal IR loader and NO bonus features? $230 for a horrendous sound? Is Fredrik high?
The amp market is super competitive these days and this is the most expensive amp sim I've ever seen, which has no wanted features including a decent sound.
Holy shit Freddy do better than this "Hey the kids are buying amp sims. I should get in on that" cash grab. He's pulling a Gibson..making garbage but upping the price due to a name.
I agree, In the last 5 years I played almost everything there is in Amp sim world and realized free stuff are just as good as paid stuff. If you can find good IR's there is no point of buying any of the amp sims.
@@JKNDBKSAFDBNSAMDSFD exactly. The IRs, post processing, and the mix are what makes a guitar tone good.
Couldn't have said it better. Kazrog are also re-entering the market as well; not to mention that Neural's stuff already is on the upper end of what you'd pay for an (1 head) amp sim but theirs also come bundled with the "3d" IR stuff and some pedals. Hard to justify this one in the current context.
The sound is solid, just the price is really steep for how specific this sim is.
@@TheFoolArts Doesn't sound anymore solid than any of the popular sims out there to be honest. Try the Hellbeast V2 for instance - that sound's solid as well and it's 20$
To me it almost sounds like there's some of that Boss HM2 sound blended in. The plugin as a whole seems like it hasn't been given much thought. I was curious when it was announced but I think I'll be giving this a miss.
Price is insanity.
exactly! .. NeuralDSP Nolly is stil my go to though
Yeah... for this price you could have 2 Neural DSPs. Glenn, i felt you went way too easy on this.
He didn't want to be too harsh bc he likes the dude behind it but in a very calm-glenn way he was like "fuck this if you're not a fanboy"
There are dozens of real amps that cost less than this.
I would 100 percent take Archetype Nolly over this entirely.
Weird he didn’t compare this to any of the MANY free and >$50 amp sims he recommended in the past hmmmmmm
@@BradsGonnaPlay I can assure you that if this plugin was released years ago and had the Line 6 logo slapped on it, he definitely would not have been so nice. Really disappointed, I expected better from Glenn.
Glenn - I have two extra licenses for TH-U Full. Embedded in it is something called Rig Player. It's Kemper profiles you can run inside the box The Soldano X88R sounds amazing. I'm willing to give you one to demo for the sake of the Spectre Army. Let me know.
Sounds interesting! Liked your comment in hope of him seeing it.
I like the Kemper with TH-U or STL ToneHub mix. We have Fredman Digital Kemper profiles, but I'm not sure how telling the profiles are to the actual plugin.
As someone who uses th-u, I'd also be interested in it.
The Rig Player in TH-U has blown me away. It's as good or better than the Neural DSP stuff in my opinion.
@@seanoakes3688 I'd be interested to see as well. My band records at our practice space with a torpedo live, lancaster IR's and a tube head. In post, at home, I will add a guitar with rig player since we are a two piece. The Rig Player always sits well with the Mesa/Torpedo/IR set up. It's pretty conveincing. I also run the bass in during post with one of the THU Sims. Sits well.
THU is an extremely useful tool.
Again, if Glenn reaches out I'd be willing to give him one of my liscences if it helps someone out there. I don't have the time, knowledge or desire to start creating UA-cam content.
I can get a better sound with a 10 year old SIM with less hiss and I can choose my own IR. This sounds like something some one found on an old hard drive . The price for this is a joke
LePou was making better free plugins in 2010. I really don't know who's going to buy this.
Put up or shut up? I was looking on your UA-cam page, but it didn't have any music on it.
@@dieknakkermetdathaar and why is having no music on my page relevant?? Tell u what I will write a song for you to ease your butt hurt :)
@@mawbts530 agreed
@@Peter-by3ox Not butthurt at al. But people can say anything on here. I am actually really excited at the oppertunity to learn. So I am very glad you want to record something, and I am actually looking forward to chatting more about this before I Piss away my money xD Cheers!
It seems to me Fred’s team didn’t really study the ampsim market at all. I personally don’t mind an ugly UI if it sounds great but for its price it’s extremely limited in its options. In today’s market I don’t think a lot of people will pay $200 for this
EDIT: I forgot to mention the dumb knobs that hiss like hell. You’re in the digital realm, you don’t have to work around the limitations of physical gear. Just turn down the range on those knobs so they’re not useless after 3-4.
I mean it's mind-numbingly easy to adjust knob range in analog devices just as well.
@@Yupppi I don’t know shit about electronics lol. That’s good to know, thanks
€179.00 which works out to about £150 in my currency.
I'm sorry but no, not for me. That price is insane considering the limited versatility of the plugin. You get what looks like 9 x IRs and nothing but high gain. No gate, can't adjust the IRs, can't load your own IRs, can't turn the IRs off to use your own external IR loader, seemingly no over sampling, clean options, no pedals or FX and if you want a lead tone you'll have to start fucking around with 3rd party plugins afterwards for delay etc.
The tone seemed to be generally okay from the samples you showed. Nothing mind-blowing.
Also appears to be a missed opportunity by seemingly not including any presets of his iconic tones (Clayman, At the Gates for example).
If this had come out maybe 10 years or so ago, maybe, but considering the amp sim market just now and the quality that is out there I see or hear absolutely nothing in this that would warrant it being over about £40.
I really hate shitting on things but damn, anyone that thinks they'd be getting value for money spending €179.00 on this needs their head looked at.
I appreciate you taking the time to put this together though, Glenn!
Yeah man, I feel like having the ability to use your own IRs and some pedals (even just a noise gate) and cut the price by 75% it would make sense.
Notice how there's no "comparison to other sims". Because every other sim could do better 🤥
Seemed awesome at first, I can even tolerate that you can't load one's own IR's simply because the fredman sound is mainly what I want in my cab sims but fucking hell €180 for an amp sim? I can buy 5 other sims with that money and money to spare on a great IR pack. Unless they drag the price WAY down I won't buy it, which really is a shame since it sounded killer
The ''toneknob'' on the Fredhead is doing it's work. They just misspelled ''noiseknob''
Nice, so basically the noise of a SLO 100 cranked with a cranked OD sitting in front of it only edgier and more hurtful.
Gotta work great in a busy mix.
Congratulations on the product launch, and best of luck to the creators.
Sounds pretty rad, but that price is totally out of left field. Newcomers to the market would be wise to recognize that it's crowded, and their potential customers already have dozens of products from the competition.
If you want anyone's attention, you better do something really special, and get the details right (resizable UI, oversampling, killer noise gate, etc...)
With this half-baked UI, no noise gate, no options (I assume you would have mentioned oversampling if it was included)... For that price you can get entire DAWs with half decent amp moddeling SUITES built in...
In its current state, I would not be tempted to spend $29 on this, and can't even guarantee I would try it if it was free. At the current price? I'd honestly be surprised if they sell a single license.
as someone who's been using a lot of guitar amps and impulses and other guitar sims. this ain't worth the money no matter how good this is. im not spending the equivalent of serum or some other synth or even hell an effects pack. at that point you're better off buying gr6
take the rhino as a comparison - went for like 39€ or something on sale and it is the single best amp sim i ever played. the first one that sounded good to my ears. this is a nice amp, and i really like the tone, but why spend 179 on this?
Interesting evaluation. I assume you didn't like the sound at all since the critique was in all the other features and you wouldn't even try it for free. Personally for amps and amp sims I go sound first, does it do a thing. Most don't and they could have all the features you can imagine, but it wouldn't result in being played.
Obviously the price is rough considering you can often get neural dsp stuff for half the price. It's just way above reasonable even if it's unique. Although I didn't choose neural dsp for the UI or noise gate or all the cab and mic configurations, oversampling or other sweet features. The ultimate test for buy decision was if it made a good sound and felt right to play, which it did without effort. The other features are nice for getting wildly varied nuances, but the core was what was important. And its price felt acceptable. Now all the features and huge versatility is important if you're a sound engineer that plans to use a single amp sim for everything, but this product is far from that audience in my eyes, definitely a one trick pony for specific audience. I just think comparing the list of features is not the adequate review unless the core is doing the same thing. But the product definitely is overpriced in any measure.
@@Yupppi no, the sound was fine, problem is the price. The fact even neural cucks have a Cheeper product than this is just sad though. And comparing features, I’d rather have the bang for my buck
@@Yupppi I think we can all agree, the sound is what matters. But bottom line, many sims, including free ones, offer fantastic sound these days, especially if you don't mind a lack of features or a 'one trick pony'. Not to mention if you turn off the built in IRs and run Torpedo WOS or something else instead.
Killer tones, and many more options can be had for cheap/free... If you specifically want 'this' sound, just blend in a transistor sim and add a comb filter or a slightly offset IR...
I can't comment on the sound, as I heard this on my cell phone speaker, because that is how interested I am at this point in aquiring my 53rd amp sim, even for free... 😏
not having the ability to turn off built in IRs turned me off..other than that sounds very impressive
It even has the hiss of an original 5150
Man, I was interested until no custom impulses. Might have still gone for it if it was waaay cheaper! Y u do dis Freddy boi?
Welp, at that price i can get any archetype series from neuraldsp which contains way more options (especially the gojira one that is also able to sound like this ua-cam.com/video/hmmh_A3zVcs/v-deo.html).
By the way Glenn, have you ever tried any their amp sim ? If you're into specific sounding amps, their granophyre sim is quite something actually.
He tested the fortin nameless when it came out
@@thekramer1097 thanks, found the video about it. Gonna check it out.
TOTALLY off topic but keep Huntsville, Alabama in your thoughts……I just found out Trapt is playing a bar here tomorrow. 🙄😞
While I agree with complaining about the price and the lack of features, anyone saying this tone is trash has there own opinion, but this tone is not supposed to be pristine metal. That’s the point. In fact, this tone is damn near mix ready for what it is. A lot of guitar tones sound bad when taken out of the context of a mix and vise versa. This is why that scooped sound we all love in our bedroom sounds like ass live. But yeah...that price is crazy.
Yeah the tone in the demo is ok and similar to what you'd ear in songs such as The Moor from Opeth. The asked price makes me wonder if they even looked at their competition before releasing it. They're gonna probably be forced to lower the price down the line if they wanna sell any.
If that tone is acceptable to you, more power to ya, but that noise floor and half of those knobs turned past 30% being detrimental to the tone makes for a pretty substandard sound.
If this is mix ready, then my 15 year old self was a top-tier tracking engineer.
@@BradsGonnaPlay It’s mix ready for the genre is what I was implying. Certainly not gonna work for most things. But if you’re looking for that nasty Swedish HM-2 type tone without the nasty HM-2, then this is it.
@@andygreen5565
*2 useless knobs
I do not know if i like the sound. It sounds like an amp pushed to a maximum limit where it almost falls apart and gets congested. Also it somehow sounds like you are running your guitar with single coils. that twang is super weird for a humbucker based sound. So weird but also so intriguing. In the full mix i loved how it sounds!
Man I'm always impressed about how heavy and clean your mixes sound. There are some crystal clear definition I can't find anywhere else, even with this super hi gain amp.
Hey man, they have updated the plugin, you might revisit it again.
It now looks way better and you can use your own IRs now 😀💪🤘
Sounds very good to me, personally though for the price I can think of a few other plug ins that sound very similar, other than that it’s awesome!!! 🤘🏻
I’m you are gonna pay that much money go get yourself a couple of plugin alliance or neural DSP amp sims, which are about 150 each not on sale (PA stuff is often 30 bucks on sale and neural DSP has 50% sales often). It feels weak for his work. Even in the mix. Feels like if you want a good weak amp sound for maybe leads or something it could work, but in general i feel there are better options out there.
Honestly I don’t think it sounds as good as it costs, especially with competitors like the Neural DSP.
Some of the freebies could beat this. Feature-wise pretty much anything, and sound-wise many of them.
What you said around 5:50 is crucial. If you like these types of tones, it’s for you.
I wasn’t a big fan of the tones here until you got to the full mix, which is where it counts (something I’ve been saying since I started my channel in 2010).
And I certainly wouldn’t pay that much for this amp sim when there are so many other amp sim suites (with effects) that are much better (of course, ‘better’ in only my opinion).
And in appreciate your honesty on the changes you’d like to see on this!
Modern metal guy: "Gross, I can find a better tone with my free plugins!" Classic metal guy: "Gross... *I love it* I've been searching for this tone forever!"
That tone was very modern and somehow "unorthodox" in the 90s !
But yeah as a fan of the Japanese 80s metal, I totally get your point (Eliza, Wolf, Yokosuka Saver Tiger ...)
Modern metal guy: "Gross, I can find a better tone with my free plugins!" - ye when your guitar tone sounds like a midrange overloud crap.
The funny thing is that we can get a similar tone with a pod, that generic chaosphere sound that was so cool in 2007. He's famous for his rich and girthy guitar tones so why make this?
Damn, and I thought the Neural DSP sims were expensive.
I hear the noise coming through even during playing. A bit of a deal breaker for me.
Not enough features, price is WAY too high.
Hahahahhaa, *179 fucking euros* ... no, really: fuck this... Where the hell is Glenn's sledgehammer?! The sound is okay but with the noise, the interface (I bet my ass it doesn't scale), the weird knobs, no gate AND no IR (which is the most important thing?!)... it feels like a Fred Head made by apple.
DSP gives you a whole suite from Joe Duplantier for that price and you have enough left for 10 packs of strings...
I’m not impressed at all. Buy the Hellbeast V2 it has everything you need including effects IR loader and sounds amazing and the look is stellar plus you can custom size it on your pc. I own a lot of amp sims including Neural DSP. You can’t beat the price at 19.99 U.S. just saying.
I think that If he included impulses, 3 other amp sims for a clean, marshally and a "wildcard amp" tone and more inbuilt fx, I would absolutely pay 179 dollars. I think people are shitting on the tone and twang knob but these seem to be working like a grind knob in a randall satanor the high knob in a mesa boogie mark series amp, they boost certain high end frequencies before the preamp (thus increasing the hiss) to dial up the tightness of the amp.
the knobs have a very responsive response (big amplitude)
Ok, now its is 99 euros and they re-worked on the GUI. Starting to make sense
fredmandigital.com/collections/guitar-bass/products/fredman-digital-distortion
Sure, why not? You have idiots out there wasting money on ludicrously priced gear. Remember:" The higher the price, the better the sound".
Theres been some great changes since this video, noisegate, turn off cab and even a clean channel. The support is amazing, you can get a personal guidance via videochat if you want.
I love Fredrik, but this sounds awful. way to much high mid scratch going on, shite interface, have to crank the tone all the way one direction to get a decent sound that doesn't pierce your ears which leaves the amp with no tone knob, ridiculously expensive... honestly glen, wtf are you doing.
Sounds pretty cool, reminds me of the Neural DSP Namless (Plexi on Steroids), but way too expensive.
I'm sorry, I do not like the amp sim!! It sounds nothing like I expected... and the price??? Thanks but no thanks - I'll buy a real amp for that cash
3:11- 3:14 sounds like classic Boss HM Swedish Death Metal to me, I didn’t notice a problem.
Man I am glad I spent 100€ for Nolly and not this...uff that sounds outdated
Music is for the ears not the eyes. This sounds sawwweeeeet, if it’s your thang.
That awkward moment when Glenn suddenly remembers his channel has an intro
It seems he listened to you. The interface has changed and the price dropped to € 99
If you want that bitey, out of control amp sim, get Vadim Taranov's Redtone for like 10 to 15 bucks. And you can use whatever impulse you want with that one, too.
I remember hearing ATG and IF in the early 2000's. I had the most bottom-end, entry-level Epiphone SG and tried so at least somewhat match that tone on a crappy amp. The closest I got to it was by turning up the presence, so watching you fiddle with that tells me i was kind of in the ballpark!
Glenn, you definitely went too easy on this.
Not even concerning the sound of the product (which I don't find that good to be honest), there are obvious design flaws and lack of understanding of the amp sim market.
The thing that pisses me off the most is the twang and tone control, why would u put them in if they are completely unusable past 4? Just shorten the range for gods sake, that has to be like one freaking line of code.
Did they add $150 for the amount of horrible noise? =(
For me it shows at €119, so the price has been reduced.
And the Windows version isn't out yet either. April fools I guess.
The way i see it is this an amp simulator at its rawest. Just like buying the real stuff with it´s own limitations, but "portable".
No extra things you could find in another sim.
Imagine a cd player that behaves like a deck, side a, side b, no skip, but cd quality.
I'm sure it's nice but I'm never going to pay that much for something with no gate, no IR control and no flexibility
Which is why I like the Cardboard look of Stevie T's amp sim plugins. LOL.
That thing sounds like a stock Garageband amp sim.
Not a bad sounding amp sim. No disrespect to the developers, but I’d definitely choose many other amp sims over this one. For a 170 dollars I just don’t think it’s worth it. For example, Archetype Gojira. Archetype Gojira comes with 3 pre amps, three cabs, and not to mention can choose from 6 different mics that allow you to customize your own mic placement. Also comes with an OD, DIS, PHSR, CHR, and a pitch shifting pedal all for 130 dollars.
Totally agree
Gonna be honest here, for what you get both feature-wise and sound-wise, this really isn't worth it to me. I might be biased, but Neural DSP's Archetype Gojira plugin is a far better value because you have far less limitations and a much greater deal of versatility. Hell, you can even get somewhat close to this amp sound with one of the built in pedals. That's just me though.
Having no "no-cab" option is straight ridiculous.
Real title:
Fearful Gear Review: (I like)Fred(erick too much to roast this)head.
Let me add this: still appreciate the video, the time took in creating it and you still remained honest enough to not really recommend it. Credit where credit is due.
If they manage to add some features, and take some suggestions (knob behaviour, UI, noise gate, option to use own IR), this could turn out to be a real winner. People are not shy throwing money at expensive mixing plugins if they're great (e.g. VSM-4), so amp sim should be okay too.
We have seen the feedback and will probably add that in the next update!
Even Fruity Loops has more options for creating amp sims. You can change the wave shape and replace all the IRs you want in the Convolver for FREEE!
Man was hoping you were going to rip into episode 666 🤘🏽
I kinda dig the look of the amp face. it is intimidating and reminmds me of the high-tech machinery from teh movie "Forbidden Planet" and kind of a Metropolis (the 1936 sci fi film) vibe.
It does sound like In Flames right out the gate
For whatever reason, by itself it sounded surprisingly much like EHX Metal Muff in the type of gnarl it produced but Metal Muff at least allows using your own speaker (IRs).
3:20 post gain is all the way up, sure the noise would be high
that price went down real fast it seems :)
I can't decide if I love it or dislike it. Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem to have that beautiful "HAAAAAAW" to it that I've heard. Its kinda there, but not quite like that beautiful sound. I actually like your fredman valvestate/5150 blend better; and since I have a valvestate and TSE X-50 plugin, along with your blended cab impulse, I think I'm going to just use that for now. And once I get the fredman clip, I may try my hand at it as well. It's just way too expensive for me. Definitely a good and very different sound from a plugin, though!
I’m getting holding back vibes.
Glenn, the results speak for themselves. This thing is truly awesome.
However, at 179 it's just not worth it. I've got the Ignite Emissary and the Fluff 5150 sims under your advice and they are awesome.
I know you're a huge fan of this guy's work(Just as any self respecting metalhead should be) but at 179 I could get a Joyo bantamp or two Mooer preamps.
Or you could get 6 used boss ds-1 if that's how you measure prices.
@@Yupppi They'd probably be less noisy.
Fk I really love this tone
$200 for this Garbage??? Tell Fred to not quit his day job and stay away from amp sims
You know what? That was very listenable! I like it!
Fredman digital website has it listed at €119, or $144 dollars. Worth noting because that's the main issue with it. Still not cheap, but much less than what everyone's complaining about. Even discounted, it needs a gate, the ability to turn off the internal irs, boost, eq, and some presets of classic Fredman tones at the very least.
They lowered the price later during the day since they were getting so many complaints about the price tag, but it was originally 179 euros
@@RicardoJBRodrigues I'm glad they were shamed into lowering the price. Nice work, whiners. 👍 Better hurry, in case it's an introductory rate.
To me, it sounds like a amp pushed way too hard until it starts to fall apart, either with pedals, plug ins or cranking the master. You can get there many different ways, but this will do it in one box.
Sounds like the precision drive on a 5150 when the tightness get cranked all the way up.
I think he went way overboard with making this amp sound as glassy as possible, when he's famous for his thick and robust sounds. Idk why he didn't include some thickening or girth knob to compensate the the twang.
Huh? I don't think it looks bad at all
For that price they could have at least hired an interface designer, this looks like something some kid did in photoshop. And trust me, design and ease of use does count, a lot!
I wanted to check it out and possibly buy, then my wallet started crying.
Clunky as hell and overpriced.
Price is utter nonsense but so is saying that the tone sucks. I'm all for giving balls back to metal guitar tones but not at this cost.
Sounds decent enough. Your mix is awesome as awlays Glenn. But, this thing is dumb expensive compared to anything else on the market. If the price drops by about $100 & you can add your own IR then it might be worth a closer look. I have several Neural DSP, Aurora DSP Rhino & ML Sound Lab plugins so I definitely have way more options than I need. I'd just say use a free sim or The Rhino. Just my opinion
I agree! The Rhino is amazing, especially considering the price.
@@SpectreSoundStudios It really is. Aurora DSP is really hard to beat for the price. I've been using the Mammoth since it came out. Haven't touched the Parallax since. Always had some harsh pokey frequencies I couldn't tame. The Mammoth just sits a lot better in the mix for me.
Being able to turn off internal cab IRs is one of THE most basic features of ANY amp sim out there.....I think a minor update is in place! :)
Its on its way!
One of these days, Amp Sims will cost as much as their real counterparts; which is stupid
Bias FX 2 is the only lover I need.
F that. Get the gojira.
I just realized - the UI looks like that thing Kevin was scared of in his basement in Home Alone.
You mean the furnace. And you're absolutely right.
@@Robocline Yeah I know it was a furnace. Just for whatever reason, I thought describing it like that was funnier. at the time.
Sooo freaking cool
Poor Kelly Osborn. I feel like I should send her a free black skirt for laughing that hard.
July 2022 and the FINALLY made a demo mode, but its 15 seconds on / 15 seconds bypassed.
Too weird.
This sounds no better than the free amp sims that are out there. Even at the new lower price, this seems like a basic amp sim. Only selling point is the guy with such an awesome reputation having his name attached to it (as if that matters).
Would’ve loved to hear this on an eight string. Well done review though.
I would really love to see in our modern amp sims a voicing button, switch or toggle which is called "mix ready mode". If you press it, the tone get that sizzle and tightness to make you sit well in the mix.
If the button is deactivated (Jam mode) you would have a fuller tone, something more pleasant to listen to isolated.
I know that this is possible to do ourselves, with EQ, IRs etc but. one button would be very easy and confortable to immediately have a feeling or a taste for 2 different voicings of a particular guitar tone.
Especially for today's video.
JST amp Sims have that
@@ccrecordings I didn't know about JST ! I just went to the website and it seems really great.
@@adilO.o I'd highly recommend Ben Bruce or Jeff Lumis
Have you tried the free boss hm2 plugin? I cant remember the name but its incredible. It gives awesome swedish tones
I think this sounded better during your isolated playing than in the full mix; the full mix tone sounded boring as hell to me. That being said, I still wasn't a big fan of the isolated tone. I'll stick with Neural DSP and ML Sound Lab for amp sims.
if this was a fearless gear review things would have been very different
It sounds great! Definitely in the same tone chart with my favourite Diezel Herbert by Plugin Alliance. Juicy, reactive to pick attack, rich in harmonics and gain textures
Nice drum sound and mix on that demo. Definitely not paying that much for an amp sim but it sounds good in context as well
I paid over a grand for the eleven rack in 2010.
Nice demo I have over 400 IRs that I have yet to checkout fully. This sim seems cool though.